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"This technique is very reliable": In Syria, announced the effectiveness of the Soviet air defense system S-75 "Dvina"

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"This technique is very reliable": In Syria, announced the effectiveness of the Soviet air defense system S-75 "Dvina"

The Soviet S-75 Dvina anti-aircraft missile system is still an effective means of fighting aircraft. This was announced by the Syrian Defense Ministry following the training of the country's air defense forces.


According to senior lieutenant Mohammed Shakhshir, who is part of the S-75 air defense missile system, during the exercises, the Soviet complex successfully hit a drone. It took 10 minutes from the moment the target was detected to the missile launch, the launch itself and the defeat took "no more than 30 seconds." The defeat of the UAV by the S-75 "Dvina" air defense missile system was confirmed by third-party surveillance and control equipment.

The effectiveness of the Soviet complex, developed in the 50s of the last century, was confirmed by a high-ranking officer of the Syrian Armed Forces. According to him, if the technical condition of the complex is well monitored, then it will work "well". The general stressed that the complex is very reliable and has been used more than once to defeat aircraft, including drones launched by militants.

(...) Maintenance of the complex is not difficult. The Syrian army has extensive experience and skills in working with these systems. This technique is very reliable and it all depends on how the soldier works with it.

- added the general.

As noted in the Syrian military department, along with the S-75 Dvina air defense system, the Buk-M2E air defense missile system and the ZU-23 artillery anti-aircraft guns participated in the air defense training.
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  1. mojohed2012
    mojohed2012 31 May 2021 09: 39
    +7
    Ambush strikes, when Dvina's radar is activated by target designation of third-party radars and posts - all of them. Only now it is impossible to beat the Israeli F-16s flying up from the direction of Jordan, and they strike with impunity.
    Covering the air in the neighboring regions of Syria with Khmeimim by the air defense forces of the RF Armed Forces is also a question, since Air defense systems of the Russian Federation there cannot, while helping the Syrians, leave the launchers without missiles, tk. there may be provocations, and the second waves of UAVs and missiles of militants - the proxies of the Turks and the United States - also operate with diversionary maneuvers. Syria is a territory of war and for a long time to come.
    1. Victor Tsenin
      Victor Tsenin 31 May 2021 09: 45
      0
      It seems that the Israelis are operating over Lebanon. Does Jordan let their planes pass too?
      1. Herman 4223
        Herman 4223 31 May 2021 10: 33
        0
        What can Jordan do? There really is no air defense, and there were also graters to them with Syria, they can remind them of the old.
        1. Victor Tsenin
          Victor Tsenin 31 May 2021 10: 37
          +2
          Really, probably, nothing but worthless protests. I just did not come across such information, everywhere there are facts about Lebanon, either from the sea, or directly from Israel. That is why I am interested in general development, so to speak.
          1. Herman 4223
            Herman 4223 31 May 2021 10: 40
            0
            The information did not come across to me either. But some strikes are made so that conclusions about such flights suggest themselves, and there is a suspicion that they fly through Jordan to Iraq, skirting Syria from the other side.
        2. zlinn
          zlinn 31 May 2021 11: 18
          +3
          in general, Jordan has quite a rather sickly air defense with 20 patriot launchers with several dozen improved Hawks (Dvina's classmate) and a bunch of different little things, but that's not even the point, Israel and Jordan have peace of friendship and almost gum, so if there are flights over Jordan , then only by agreement
        3. Bongo
          Bongo 31 May 2021 12: 30
          +5
          Quote: Herman 4223
          What can Jordan do? There is really no air defense

          Very controversial. Airspace control in Jordan is carried out by five very advanced three-dimensional radars FPS-117 and TPS-77 and several old two-dimensional TPS-63. Three dozen F-16AMs can be used as interceptors. The military air defense system has about 50 Strela-10 air defense systems and Pantsir-S1 air defense systems. In the air defense facility there are 10 modernized air defense systems Us. Hawk and 3 Patriot batteries.
      2. Professor
        Professor 31 May 2021 11: 08
        +2
        Quote: Victor Tsenin
        It seems that the Israelis are operating over Lebanon. Does Jordan let their planes pass too?

        How is the Iraqi-Syrian border being bombed?
        1. Herman 4223
          Herman 4223 31 May 2021 11: 42
          0
          If Jordan lets Israel's planes pass, then this is a stupid question (we are discussing this). The range of the means of destruction of Israeli aircraft reaches hundreds of kilometers.
        2. Grits
          Grits 31 May 2021 16: 02
          +2
          Quote: Professor
          How is the Iraqi-Syrian border being bombed?

          Why would you bomb it? Does someone bite you in the ass from there?
        3. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 31 May 2021 16: 28
          +1
          Despicably striking from Basra
    2. steelmaker
      steelmaker 31 May 2021 10: 29
      +1
      "Syria is a territory of war and for a long time to come."
      Israel got the tinsel and forgot about Syria and Iran. Change must always be given, then the world will last longer! And the enemies must be destroyed, and not a truce with them to be arranged!
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 31 May 2021 16: 29
        0
        Quote: steel maker
        "Syria is a territory of war and for a long time to come."
        Israel got the tinsel and forgot about Syria and Iran. Change must always be given, then the world will last longer! And the enemies must be destroyed, and not a truce with them to be arranged!

        Why did you forget? Something was demolished in the tenths of May, they just didn't write much about it, tk. all attention was focused on Gaza
    3. Herman 4223
      Herman 4223 31 May 2021 10: 36
      0
      It is impossible to shoot down because they do not fly up to the launch range of the s-75 missiles. Whose effective range is only 40 kilometers.
      1. zlinn
        zlinn 31 May 2021 11: 26
        +1
        it does not work, because the dvina is not effective against airplanes with air defense systems, it was proved in the late 70s and early 80s
        1. Herman 4223
          Herman 4223 31 May 2021 11: 56
          0
          Any complex loses its effectiveness if it is interfered with. Another thing is that there should be a longer arm nearby that will destroy or drive away the jammer and allow the complex to perform its work normally.
          1. Bongo
            Bongo 31 May 2021 12: 56
            +6
            Quote: Herman 4223
            Any complex loses its effectiveness if it is interfered with. Another thing is that there should be a longer arm nearby that will destroy or drive away the jammer and allow the complex to perform its work normally.

            Any complex can certainly be suppressed by active interference. yes Another question at what cost? For a reason, the S-300P family of air defense systems switched to multi-channel guidance.
            The SNR-75 of all modifications is single-channel, which greatly facilitates the suppression. In the USSR air defense, this problem was solved by the mutual overlap of the firing sectors of several S-75 missiles, the guidance stations of which operated at different letter frequencies. In addition, the noise immunity is influenced by how well the station equipment, built on electrovacuum devices, is adjusted and tuned. The qualifications and skill of the calculations are also of great importance.
        2. Grits
          Grits 31 May 2021 16: 04
          +2
          Quote: zlinn
          it does not work, because the dvina is not effective against airplanes with air defense systems, it was proved in the late 70s and early 80s

          Therefore, they are launched at the drones of the Barmaleevs. From the cannon to the sparrows.
          1. Proud.
            Proud. 31 May 2021 16: 44
            0
            Well, figs knows. High-explosive fragmentation warhead. 29 thousand square fragments (truncated pyramid)
      2. Bongo
        Bongo 31 May 2021 12: 37
        +6
        Quote: Herman 4223
        It is impossible to shoot down because they do not fly up to the launch range of the s-75 missiles. Whose effective range is only 40 kilometers.

        The S-75M3 air defense missile system with the B-759 air defense system available with the air defense system of the ATS has a firing range at high-altitude targets of up to 53 km.
        LAW C-75 in the XXI century
        https://topwar.ru/90322-zrk-s-75-v-xxi-veke.html
        1. Herman 4223
          Herman 4223 31 May 2021 12: 39
          -1
          I wrote about the effective range. The zone of guaranteed defeat, it is less than the maximum range.
          1. Bongo
            Bongo 31 May 2021 12: 42
            +4
            In ZRV there is no such thing as "effective range" No. The firing range depends on the type of target, altitude, flight speed and on the heading parameter.
            1. Herman 4223
              Herman 4223 31 May 2021 14: 56
              0
              Is the guaranteed kill zone okay?
              1. Toucan
                Toucan 31 May 2021 15: 25
                +3
                Quote: Herman 4223
                Is the guaranteed kill zone okay?

                You have opened a new page in Air Defense wassat There are no anti-aircraft missiles that guarantee defeat with a 100% probability. No.
    4. Pacifist
      Pacifist 31 May 2021 11: 58
      +4
      Another question is that, in fact, they shot a lamppost at a pigeon ... but, after all, they hit
      1. Grits
        Grits 31 May 2021 16: 05
        +2
        Quote: Pacifist
        Another question is that, in fact, they shot a lamppost at a pigeon ... but, after all, I hit

        You may not fall - just fly nearby and the pigeon will be blown away by a stream of air
  2. Vladimir_2U
    Vladimir_2U 31 May 2021 09: 41
    -1
    Well, what if the old man can handle the goal, then why spend something more advanced on it, which means more expensive. The reliability is really impressive, it seems they wrote about this missile - "Unitary cartridge for air defense systems".
    1. Vol4ara
      Vol4ara 31 May 2021 09: 47
      +3
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      Well, what if the old man can handle the goal, then why spend something more advanced on it, which means more expensive. The reliability is really impressive, it seems they wrote about this missile - "Unitary cartridge for air defense systems".

      Goals are too tough. Bow and arrow are reliable too
      1. Vladimir_2U
        Vladimir_2U 31 May 2021 09: 55
        0
        Quote: Vol4ara
        Goals are too tough.

        The general stressed that the complex is very reliable and has already been used more than once to destroy aircraft, including drones launched by militants... Do not you need to shoot down these goals?
        Quote: Vol4ara
        Bow and arrow are reliable too
        If a goal is tough for them, then why not?
    2. Bongo
      Bongo 31 May 2021 12: 39
      +4
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      The reliability is really impressive, it seems they wrote about this missile - "Unitary cartridge for air defense systems".

      Maintenance and operation of SAM for all modifications of the S-75 air defense system has always been a difficult and time-consuming task.
  3. Ehmedli
    Ehmedli 31 May 2021 09: 48
    +3
    It took 10 minutes from the moment the target was detected to the missile launch.

    Isn't it a lot?
  4. Soldatov V.
    Soldatov V. 31 May 2021 09: 53
    -7
    New electronic brains plus new modern fuel and the S-75 will be no worse than the S-300, or even the S-400. SCADs can also be upgraded.
    1. Bongo
      Bongo 31 May 2021 12: 44
      0
      Quote: V.
      New electronic brains plus new modern fuel and the S-75 will be no worse than the S-300, or even the S-400. SCADs can also be upgraded.

      It is easier to create a new air defense system than to radically modernize the "seventy-five". The Chinese tried, it didn't work out very well, and as a result, they adopted a new complex.
      1. Soldatov V.
        Soldatov V. 31 May 2021 19: 43
        -2
        The question is not to radically modernize, but to improve what is there for a penny, roughly speaking. Putting a new board, improving the fighting qualities by 25-50 percent is already fine. Filling it with new high-energy fuel even better. ...
        1. Toucan
          Toucan 1 June 2021 01: 13
          +1
          Quote: V.
          The question is not to radically modernize, but to improve what is there for a penny, roughly speaking. Putting a new board, improving the fighting qualities by 25-50 percent is already fine. Filling it with new high-energy fuel even better. ...

          What you propose is a radical upgrade.
          You just don't understand what you are talking about. If it were that simple, it would have been done long ago. The pinnacle of development of the "seventy-fifth" family in the second half of the 70s was the serial C-75M4 with a television-optical sight and new electronic blocks on a solid-state element base. Experts considered further improvement of the hopelessly outdated single-channel complex with liquid missiles not rational. No. The "Volga-2" variant, offered to foreign customers in the 90s, was not developed for objective reasons.
          1. Soldatov V.
            Soldatov V. 1 June 2021 14: 07
            0
            Thanks for the comment. I am certainly not an expert on air defense missiles. It's just that there are problems in life that need to be solved here and now and with what is. This is how Molotov cocktails arose for example against tanks. God forbid the Syrians to withstand the aggressors. I think they themselves will think of something or ours will suggest something.
  5. isv000
    isv000 31 May 2021 10: 20
    0
    The old horse does not sport a furrow ... hi
  6. Alexey Stepanov
    Alexey Stepanov 31 May 2021 10: 28
    -2
    S-75 is the most combat air defense system.
    The very first aircraft shot down with missiles in combat conditions was the "handiwork" of the S-75, and on its combat account - more than a thousand targets, even by the most conservative estimates.

    Will fight again
    1. Normal ok
      Normal ok 31 May 2021 10: 58
      0
      "The falling rocket was smoking, and it ran away from it."
      1. isv000
        isv000 1 June 2021 16: 53
        +1
        I saw this, from the hit of the spilled oxidizer on the pea jacket, the fighter moved out ... They thought diesel fuel - the rocket butted the tank. Lungs spread ... sad
  7. Petio
    Petio 31 May 2021 10: 33
    +3
    Is Dvina or is Volkhov still working for them?
    1. Bongo
      Bongo 31 May 2021 12: 48
      +4
      Quote: Petio
      Is Dvina or is Volkhov still working for them?

      Now in Syria, the S-75M3 Volga air defense missile system, an export modification of the Volkhov, remains in service.
      The SA-75M "Dvina" with the guidance station operating in the 10-cm frequency range has long been decommissioned.
      In general, the article is illiterate, there are many blunders. negative
  8. Normal ok
    Normal ok 31 May 2021 10: 54
    +1
    By the way, in the "doomsday" war, a division led by Soviet (not Egyptians) specialists shot down
    2 F-4. I know first-hand. my whole family is military. some of my relatives received the Order of the "Red Star".
    1. zlinn
      zlinn 31 May 2021 11: 28
      0
      not this a little earlier, in the war of attrition
  9. bbss
    bbss 31 May 2021 10: 59
    +5
    The S-75 complex, on which I happened to serve military service, was already considered obsolete then (1970-72). It flourished in the 60s. The enemy got in a brazen face from this complex and urgently changed the tactics of the raids and used new technical means. Then the complex needed urgent modernization. I remember how engineers came to our division and installed modified blocks. In principle, this complex can even now be improved to the current level ... But is it necessary? There are several reasons that, in my opinion, make such events meaningless. 1. The S-75 complex is not very mobile. Changing positions with him is a terrible horror! SNR-75 is several trailers. The antenna system must be disassembled. Roll up cable networks. The launchers are heavy. They must be placed on the "move" ... 2. The complex is subject to interference, which is placed by the enemy's electronic warfare. 3. The missile itself (or rather a family of missiles) for the S-75 has restrictions on maneuvering. Well, she will not be able to make sharp maneuvers behind small, nimble aircraft or enemy missiles. It is too long and just breaks with such maneuvers. This is how the Israelis and Americans in Vietnam escaped the blow. Conclusion: In our difficult times, the S-75 will be able to operate in large formations of leisurely bombers (drones) in an area up to 40 km from the covered object. Well, prepare for a crushing retaliatory strike from the enemy.
    1. Proud.
      Proud. 31 May 2021 16: 34
      -2
      Yes ... Familiar. Deployment of the complex to the Combat position, 5 hours. "Cannons", weighing 50 tons, were carried only by KRAs. And then ... Tryndets! Unfolding the Cannon (removal from the moves). "Favorite activity" - driving in openers ("have a grandmother", in the slang of Starters. Although in Real, the word is different). Digging trenches under the cables. Sheltering these, airfield, metal plates. Installation of bridges under the TZM. Leveling the Gun. Disguising the PU. This is me, as I remember the Starter.
      1. Toucan
        Toucan 1 June 2021 01: 17
        +2
        "Cannons", weighing 50 tons, were carried only by KRAs.
        Cut the sturgeon down by ten times.
        1. Bosun61
          Bosun61 1 June 2021 02: 05
          +3
          14 tons, it seems without moves. They are also heavy. A crane is also needed for the installation of the CHP. Terrible horror in one word.
      2. isv000
        isv000 1 June 2021 16: 59
        0
        The S-200 did not go far according to the standards to "dump" ... hi
  10. Professor
    Professor 31 May 2021 11: 11
    -1
    According to senior lieutenant Mohammed Shakhshir, who is part of the S-75 air defense missile system, during the exercises, the Soviet complex successfully hit a drone.

    Well ... the exercises are always smooth. Only the "conditional adversary" in reality among the Syrians turned out to be spiritless, insidious and malicious. Has Syrians in both tail and mane.
  11. Synoid
    Synoid 31 May 2021 16: 59
    0
    Good luck to the Syrian people in the fight against the invaders.
    At one time, this complex drank blood from the opponents of Syria and Egypt.
  12. Oleg Aviator
    Oleg Aviator 31 May 2021 17: 18
    +2
    Unmanned aerial vehicles are different. And is it not expensive to shoot down a primus with such a missile? The monkeys have not yet had anything worthy.
  13. Ryaruav
    Ryaruav 31 May 2021 18: 35
    0
    I think that in terms of the number of combat targets shot down, only MANPADS can compete with our complex
  14. dima314
    dima314 31 May 2021 20: 43
    +4
    Scrap metal is not an air defense complex, if against Israel. If the S-125 was somehow modernized, replacing its control and guidance equipment, mounted on a self-propelled chassis, then these dense structures for air defense do not make any sense. He can remake like the Iranians into a tactical missile and fire somewhere, and I'm not sure.
  15. Radikal
    Radikal 31 May 2021 22: 47
    +1
    "This technique is very reliable": In Syria, announced the effectiveness of the Soviet air defense system S-75 "Dvina"
    They scolded, now they praise - have Arab friends learned to work? lol
  16. bbss
    bbss 1 June 2021 04: 53
    0
    Quote: Be proud.
    I remember this as a Starter.

    I was the head of the calculation of the SRTs P-12. While we were folding the antenna system of the station, it took quite a long time. The launchers usually had time to put the guns on the move, and we usually helped to roll up cable lines or disassemble and load the SNR antenna system.
  17. bbss
    bbss 1 June 2021 04: 57
    +1
    By the way, I believe that the S-75 and S-125 remain the most effective complexes in history. By the number of downed enemy aircraft.
  18. yehat2
    yehat2 1 June 2021 14: 09
    0
    Quote: zlinn
    it does not work, because the dvina is not effective against airplanes with air defense systems, it was proved in the late 70s and early 80s

    this is if the dvina was not modernized in any way.
    Do you think there is a filling half a century ago?
    in our country, these complexes are also installed at the air defense facility.
    I saw it with my own eyes and a friend served there.
    1. Bongo
      Bongo 1 June 2021 16: 25
      +2
      Quote: yehat2
      this is if the dvina was not modernized in any way.
      Do you think there is a filling half a century ago?
      in our country, these complexes are also installed at the air defense facility.
      I saw it with my own eyes and a friend served there.

      Excuse me, where is it with you? what
      SAM CA-75M "Dvina" in the USSR was written off in the mid-1970s. It was pointless to upgrade it, since in the series this modification was replaced by an air defense system. S-75 "Volkhov" with SNR-75 operating in the 6 cm range. In Russia, the last air defense systems S-75M3 / M4 "Volkhov" removed from combat duty in 1995.
      1. yehat2
        yehat2 1 June 2021 17: 03
        0
        we have a dvina in the museum and exactly the same installations have missilemen on alert
        however, for the last 10 years I have not checked
        1. Bongo
          Bongo 2 June 2021 00: 07
          +1
          Quote: yehat2
          we have a dvina in the museum and exactly the same installations have missilemen on alert
          however, for the last 10 years I have not checked

          You probably live in the DPRK or in Romania?
          And I also envy you very much, you are able to easily distinguish the SM-63 launcher and the V-750 SAM complex of the SA-75M "Dvina" complex discontinued in the mid-60s from the SM-90 launcher and V-759 missiles released in the early 80s. x. I don't get it right away, and only from a very close distance.
          1. yehat2
            yehat2 2 June 2021 00: 25
            -2
            from the fence part to the nearest PU about 40 meters, you can see.
            in addition, this is, in fact, the modernized s-75, 2nd or 3rd iteration.
            and I'm sure that the Syrians c-75 call all the complexes from this line, no difference with the zur 755 or 759 or
            1. Toucan
              Toucan 2 June 2021 01: 11
              +1
              And I'm also very curious about where the S-75s were preserved? You have not answered the directly posed question.
  19. Pavel57
    Pavel57 2 June 2021 01: 10
    0
    Quote: Tucan
    There are no anti-aircraft missiles that guarantee defeat with a 100% probability.

    Quote: Tucan
    Quote: Herman 4223
    Is the guaranteed kill zone okay?

    You have opened a new page in Air Defense wassat There are no anti-aircraft missiles that guarantee defeat with a 100% probability. No.


    Guaranteed kill zone for ballistics - target maneuvering does not save it from being hit. This is a ballistic task subject to target and missile overload restrictions. Other factors. affecting accuracy are not considered in this context.