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"It's time to abandon underage recruits": in Britain urge to move to the "adult" army

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"It's time to abandon underage recruits": in Britain urge to move to the "adult" army

Around the world, the number of recruits who have reached the age of 18 continues to increase: at the moment, three quarters of the personnel of the armed forces of the planet are in this age category. At the same time, the British army has a certain proportion of 16-year-old military personnel.


The UK is unique in its zealous recruitment of young people under the age of 18, who make up up to a quarter of recruits

- noted in the RUSI edition.

Unlike the Navy and Air Force, which mostly rely on "adult" military personnel, the Army Command states that it needs a recruitment of minors to operate effectively. However, according to the author, most of them take more than a year to study, which doubles the cost. At the same time, almost a third of the youngest recruits do not enter the active army without completing their training.

The recruitment figures change annually, but it is significant that in 2019-2020 the army recruited 13% more adult military personnel (7 people) than in 070-2015 (2016 people). Now, when it is planned to reduce its number by 6%, this process may accelerate, in connection with which the author calls for a complete abandonment of the recruitment of minors, especially since many of them, due to military service, avoid criminal punishment, while remaining outside the jurisdiction of their age military tribunal.

Onerous [for the military] legal obligations, high dropout rates of underage recruits, long-term negative impacts on their mental health and reports of abuse in training centers: these detrimental effects are not uncommon, but common

- concludes the British author, believing that "it's time to abandon underage recruits and go to the adult army."

This is because NATO armies are usually spoken of as armies where there is allegedly no "bullying" and "mental pressure on recruits."
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  1. Anachoret
    Anachoret 31 May 2021 15: 56
    +1
    and indeed the British decided to fight remotely))
    1. den3080
      den3080 31 May 2021 16: 08
      +1
      "It's time to abandon underage recruits": Britain urges to move to an "adult" army "

      I think they hurried up with the call! British LGBT people will be totally against it !! And there the rest of tolerasts will catch up.

      In public schools in Great Britain, spanking, as a punishment, was banned only in 1987, and in private British schools in 1999, in Northern Ireland in 2003 ...
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 31 May 2021 16: 44
        +3
        Spanking is a strong word. smile
        The teacher had the right to hit the hand with a ruler.
        But it hurts too, I agree.
      2. knn54
        knn54 31 May 2021 17: 19
        -1
        Due to the shortage of soldiers (especially the Air Force suffers), the UK will allow volunteers from India, Australia, Canada and Fiji to serve without the obligatory (as before) 5-year residency in Britain. Moreover, they will consider ALL possible positions in the Armed Forces, but not yet more than 200 foreigners a year.
        1. RUSS
          RUSS 31 May 2021 20: 17
          +2
          Quote: knn54
          Due to the shortage of soldiers (especially the Air Force suffers), the UK will allow volunteers from India, Australia, Canada and Fiji to serve without the obligatory (as before) 5-year residence in Britain

          In 2017, State Duma deputies proposed allowing migrants and their children to serve in the Russian army, and issue Russian passports at the end of their service. Now the decision has been postponed, but I am sure they will return to this.
  2. APASUS
    APASUS 31 May 2021 16: 00
    +1
    the British army has a certain proportion of 16-year-old military personnel.

    These are these squeaks all over the world about the protection of children, they say they are being severely exploited in Asian countries? And in civilized England they are simply taken into the army, and where are the rights and laws?
    1. Bolt cutter
      Bolt cutter 31 May 2021 16: 07
      +4
      they are simply taken into the army
      They are not taken away - they come voluntarily and with parental consent.
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 31 May 2021 16: 10
        0
        Quote: Bolt Cutter
        They are not taken away - they come voluntarily and with parental consent.

        Like this ?
        "It's time to abandon underage recruits and move to an adult army."

        Do they volunteer to join the army at 16?
        1. Bolt cutter
          Bolt cutter 31 May 2021 16: 25
          +11
          Like this ?
          Like that. Little Johnny doesn’t want to study, I don’t know how to find a normal job, and he says to dad and mom, they say, I want to serve the Queen, make a career, see the world. Mom and dad talk - how great you already got us, you fool we are proud of you. The next dent, mom and Johnny go to the reception center, where Johnny signs documents with his mom and mom and dad get drunk in a pub to celebrate.
          1. ycuce234-san
            ycuce234-san 31 May 2021 16: 44
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            It would be more logical to allow enrollment for military education in complex modern specialties from 16, instead of conscription or contract.
            1. Bolt cutter
              Bolt cutter 31 May 2021 16: 51
              0
              with 16, instead of a call or contract
              Moreover, they have the right to send for active hostilities only at 18.
              1. ycuce234-san
                ycuce234-san 31 May 2021 17: 04
                +1
                An experiment in the field of training naval officers would be interesting: to legally define a "minor volunteer" in VVUZ and give the opportunity to master sailing programs and go on a round-the-world trip or scientific expeditions to the ocean and Antarctica in both years. Those who have mastered the base and from an auditor became a cadet to further teach according to a particularly in-depth program. They have been teaching in civilian universities for 6 years and in schools for 11 years. And in 6 years, a good university becomes a second home in general.
                See what happens.
                1. Amba412
                  Amba412 31 May 2021 17: 23
                  +2
                  Well, you described the Nakhimov School. Only here, in order to get into it, you need to POOL. And not to run from prison
                  1. Reviews
                    Reviews 31 May 2021 17: 30
                    +1
                    ... or the situation in the same Royal Navy from the times of Cook and Fitzroy.
                    1. bk0010
                      bk0010 31 May 2021 18: 53
                      +1
                      Quote: Avis
                      . or the situation in the same Royal Navy from the times of Cook and Fitzroy.
                      There, in fact, people were dragged into the ships drunk, and then they said "either to the crew, or overboard." Or they threw a coin into a mug with opaque beer, and then they said that he took the king's money, which means now a sailor. And the marines were invented there. She was supposed to protect the captain from the crew.
                      1. Bolt cutter
                        Bolt cutter 31 May 2021 19: 38
                        0
                        She was supposed to protect the captain from the crew.
                        From the crew of an enemy ship yes ... The Marine Corps was charged with boarding and countering duties.
                      2. bk0010
                        bk0010 31 May 2021 20: 01
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                        Quote: Bolt Cutter
                        From the crew of the enemy ship yes. The Marine Corps was charged with boarding and countering duties.
                        From their own first. They were placed there so that they would find themselves between the sailors and the officers' cabins. And then they realized that trained and armed soldiers were more useful than sailors when boarding.
                      3. Bolt cutter
                        Bolt cutter 31 May 2021 20: 15
                        +2
                        First of all
                        According to a friend who served in their ranks, on the contrary, the function of maintaining order was secondary, and they were placed closer to the officers' cabins because they tried to emphasize their privileged position on the ship. For this "lobsters" - as they were called because of the red color of their uniforms - the sailors disliked. They do not like it now.
                  2. Reviews
                    Reviews 1 June 2021 06: 47
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                    Quote: bk0010
                    Quote: Avis
                    . or the situation in the same Royal Navy from the times of Cook and Fitzroy.
                    There, in fact, people were dragged into the ships drunk, and then they said "either to the crew, or overboard."

                    Actually, I mean midshipmen. Often they were 10-12-year-old boys from well-to-do families.
              2. ycuce234-san
                ycuce234-san 31 May 2021 19: 14
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                Well, you described the Nakhimov School.

                Only the British, the naval nation, did not have the concept of the Nakhimovites for some reason, although logically it should have appeared not in the continental country of Russia, but in the Royal English Navy centuries ago. In principle, in the world there are no such schools exactly, in fact.
                Therefore, he proposed an option with volunteers - maybe this option will go to English pranks.
            2. lisiy prapor
              lisiy prapor 1 June 2021 15: 13
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              Quote: ycuce234-san
              An experiment in the field of training naval officers would be interesting: to legally define a "minor volunteer" in VVUZ and give the opportunity to master sailing programs and go on a round-the-world trip or scientific expeditions to the ocean and Antarctica in both years. Those who have mastered the base and from an auditor became a cadet to further teach according to a particularly in-depth program. They have been teaching in civilian universities for 6 years and in schools for 11 years. And in 6 years, a good university becomes a second home in general.
              See what happens.

              Whom to teach? What? Well these are semi-criminal degrades. Inaccurate: "Nails are not made of good iron, soldiers are made of good people."
              1. ycuce234-san
                ycuce234-san 1 June 2021 18: 14
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                Likewise, in our post-Soviet space, as before, they often "run away" from the criminal environment or economic hopelessness into the army or navy. Moreover, it has always been so - both before and now - in the 80s they ran away from the environment of courtyard companies, now - from the prospect of going to work as a treasureman. Only the other day I saw the post of such a former soldier on the net from the post-Soviet one - "I would go to the Congo. Confession of a contract soldier", and this is already the period of the late 2000s.
                The difference is that until 2008 the problem was slightly covered by the gloss of excess money, which is now gradually peeling off like old paint. The situation is like the USA of the 70s, preserved in old photos - on the one hand, gloss, and on the other, a difficult economic period.
                Well, the British have the same problems - cladmen and decades-long depressions in the local economy of the provinces and industrial cities, and they have an abundance; and PMCs they bloom, too, partly due to disorder. Therefore, such islanders go to military service until 18 - and then they would go, if it was legally allowed.
    2. Mishka78
      Mishka78 31 May 2021 17: 25
      +1
      Well, how, say, did I go to the Suvorov School at the age of 14 in 1991? (And now it seems like in general from the 3rd grade). Here and here about the same.
      Or the guys enter the VVUZ after school. They are 17. And nevertheless, they are given weapons after the oath.
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    1. Bolt cutter
      Bolt cutter 31 May 2021 17: 57
      0
      You can only be sent to fight and kill when you reach the age of 18. We'll have to wait a little in the barracks.
  • isv000
    isv000 31 May 2021 16: 24
    +2
    These are the sons of the regiment ... wink
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 31 May 2021 16: 00
    +1
    I don’t understand, and they forbid us to call them alternative?
  • isv000
    isv000 31 May 2021 16: 01
    +2
    The Englishwoman now only has to shit. Nelson would have died a second time after seeing their current army and navy. The other day they showed the Scots with bagpipes - more than half of them are negros in skirts! ... winked
    1. Cat Alexandrovich
      Cat Alexandrovich 31 May 2021 16: 07
      +2
      What other Scots are there?
      1. isv000
        isv000 31 May 2021 16: 11
        +3
        Cattle ... (Scotland) lol
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 31 May 2021 16: 14
      +1
      Quote: isv000
      The other day they showed the Scots with bagpipes - more than half of them are negroes in skirts!

      Purebred Scots!
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 31 May 2021 16: 45
        +1
        Eh, Scotland has disappeared, and in the 90s in Edinburgh in Edinburgh to find a Negro in the daytime with fire !!! Like they have an LGBTQ premier. A little more and the film "Braveheart" will be banned. At least they burn the Viking Drakar in Lerwick?
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 31 May 2021 18: 33
          +1
          Quote: tralflot1832
          A little more and the film "Braveheart" will be banned. At least they burn the Viking Drakar in Lerwick?

          The holiday was great, but after 2000 they stopped burning the drakar. Although the people are still shouting "We are the descendants of the Viking!"
    3. Bolt cutter
      Bolt cutter 31 May 2021 16: 37
      0
      Nelson would die a second time
      In fairness, Nelson would not even be surprised - in his time there were a lot of blacks in the Royal Navy.
  • Thrifty
    Thrifty 31 May 2021 16: 12
    0
    Is it "the spirit of the times", or just the inability to decide what kind of army is needed? Alternatively, a complete abandonment of the army, its replacement by "partisans", or to make one British PMC, and give it all the weapons. ..
  • Reader 2013
    Reader 2013 31 May 2021 16: 58
    +1
    There are few willing "adults" to go to serve in the ground forces, or only completely "enthusiasts" or out of despair
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 31 May 2021 22: 28
      +1
      There are almost no conventional ground forces in Britain. Some special forces.
      There are many volunteers, a competition, qualifying competitions for "survival".
      But the amount is small in general.
      It is more difficult to recruit young people for artillery, tankers. Not prestigious.
  • Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 31 May 2021 18: 40
    0
    "... especially since many of them, at the expense of military service, avoid criminal punishment, while remaining outside the jurisdiction of the military tribunal because of their age."
    Well, when choosing a prison or the army, it is not hard to guess what the youngsters are choosing.
  • chenia
    chenia 31 May 2021 20: 33
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    In order to have a prepared reserve, there must be centers for its preparation (where studies take place during the year) - from there and the staffing of those who wish for a contract (in six months). And then, after a certain period of time, this contingent will be attracted to the training camp. And for an incentive - a person who has not served in power structures cannot hold certain government positions.
    And oddly enough, but you need to start early (from 18-19 years old).
  • Bshkaus
    Bshkaus 1 June 2021 06: 55
    -1
    To be honest, I also think that more mature men should serve during the DB. There at least stress resistance is higher. At 18, not every conscript is already a man.
    1. ycuce234-san
      ycuce234-san 1 June 2021 09: 18
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      To be honest, I also think that more mature men should serve during the DB. There at least stress resistance is higher. At 18, not every conscript is already a man.


      We need to take a step further - technologies have changed since the days of Nelson and Napoleon.
      It is necessary to collect seminal fluid in medical banks only from childless military personnel, thereby ensuring that their gene pool will not be lost and there will be many descendants around the world. Time flies faster than science fiction books can come up with.