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"The new aircraft gives them reason to be proud": German press about the Ukrainian An-178-100R

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"The new aircraft gives them reason to be proud": German press about the Ukrainian An-178-100R

When, at the end of 2020, the Ukrainian government ordered three An-178 versions of the 100R from Antonov, the project of a new aircraft got off the ground. Until that moment, the only customer of the An-178 was Peru, which also purchased three aircraft for its Air Force. Five months later, the fuselage of the first vehicle being built for the needs of the Ukrainian army is ready.


The new plane gives them a reason to be proud

- noted in the Flug Revue about the Ukrainian military transport An-178-100R, intended for the country's air force.

Assembly of the first building began at Antonov in March this year. It is planned that by the end of the year it will receive engines of the D-436-148FM type, developed by the Ukrainian enterprises Motor Sich and Ivchenko Progress.

The fulfillment of this contract is a matter of honor for our company. Therefore, our employees will do their best to fulfill their obligations with high quality and on time.

- said the general director of "Antonov" Sergei Bychkov.

The German press calls the modernized modification of the An-178-100R "a universal, economical and durable version" of the aircraft, which took off for the first time in 2015. It was developed specifically for the needs of the Ukrainian Air Force and is considered the successor to the outdated An-12 and An-26 turboprop models.

At the same time, the An-178-100R boasts durability, powerful characteristics and low operating costs.

- explained in the German edition.

The maximum payload of the new aircraft is 18 tons, the flight range is 4200 km, and the cruising speed is 825 km / h. The spacious cargo compartment has a volume of 167 cubic meters, allowing to accommodate more than 90 soldiers or 86 paratroopers in equipment (or up to 48 stretchers for the wounded). It also provides for the air discharge of cargo and equipment weighing up to 7,5 tons.

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  1. Alsur
    Alsur 30 May 2021 15: 28
    +6
    The German press writes that this plane is a reason for the pride of Ukrainians. Where is the praise of the German press here?
    1. Shurik70
      Shurik70 30 May 2021 15: 43
      -1
      Five months on the fuselage ...
      Something long.
      They're not building a naval battleship
      1. Reviews
        Reviews 30 May 2021 15: 49
        +7
        Quote: Shurik70
        Five months on the fuselage ...
        Something long.

        Normal for an experimental board. You never know what they recounted / altered there.
        1. Shurik70
          Shurik70 30 May 2021 15: 57
          +6
          An airplane is not only a fuselage
          It's too early for Ukrainians to boast
          By the way, Peru suspended the order for 3 aircraft back in 2020 (in September, it seems) - https://ria.ru/20200925/an-178-1577778880.html
          1. Reviews
            Reviews 30 May 2021 16: 07
            0
            Quote: Shurik70
            An airplane is not only a fuselage

            I know, actually. Even a glider is not an airplane. I just wrote that 5 months from the conclusion of the contract to the first fuselage of the new modification is not so much. A month of hype, a month of confusion, a month of calculations, a couple of months of unhurried riveting by the same teams of reduced personnel of different airframe units ...
            1. Vladimir Mashkov
              Vladimir Mashkov 30 May 2021 16: 15
              +3
              How subtly the Germans scoff at the velikoukras! lol
              1. Shurik70
                Shurik70 31 May 2021 07: 20
                -1
                Quote: Avis
                5 months from the conclusion of the contract to the first fuselage of the new modification is not so much

                In November 2020, they ALREADY manufactured 2 aircraft
                So this is far from the first plane.
                https://www.aex.ru/news/2020/11/12/219062/
                1. Looking for
                  Looking for 31 May 2021 18: 49
                  -2
                  You saw them.???
          2. Puppeteer 111
            Puppeteer 111 31 May 2021 07: 04
            -8
            On Thursday, the Russian media, citing "journalist" Ricardo Zedano, reported on the alleged suspension of the execution of the contract for the purchase and sale of the An-178 aircraft by the Peruvian Ministry of Internal Affairs.
            ...
            It should be noted that the entry was published by Russian digital media. Earlier, the Russian media presented Ricardo Zedano as a TeleSUR journalist, whose office is located in Venezuela, and his opinion as an analytical note of a popular publication. But Ricardo Zedano does not work for TeleSUR and in the "I am a reporter" section he published only two articles in which he expresses his subjective opinion as a blogger. And the last article was generally published as a smart opinion on the little-visited site of the Federation of Peruvian Periodicals.
            .
            In fact, Ricardo Zedano works in the media holding MIA "Russia Today" and lives in Moscow, as he reports on his personal pages in Blogger, Vkontakte, Twitter and Facebook. His publications are regularly presented as the opinion of the Latin American press, and in fact are purely Russian propaganda.
            1. Alexander Trifonov
              Alexander Trifonov 31 May 2021 12: 59
              +1
              Well, who cares? The main thing is that Peru refused to supply))).
              1. Puppeteer 111
                Puppeteer 111 31 May 2021 21: 08
                -3
                The main thing is that Peru did not refuse))
        2. VO3A
          VO3A 30 May 2021 16: 36
          -3
          All these are fairy tales for children !!! Died, so dead !! This article is a provocation, no more!
          Watch, read and enjoy, without schadenfreude, the expert opinion on the patient's death:

          https://hvylya.net/analytics/economics/aviastroenie-ukrainy-dajte-deneg-mozhet-byt-postroim-samolet.html
          1. Pete mitchell
            Pete mitchell 30 May 2021 17: 09
            +3
            Quote: VO3A
            All these are fairy tales for children !!! Died, so died

            Well, why are you like this: like this not democratically, with links - they believe what they want ... well, they definitely want women lol If we see a serial flying one, I will be sincerely surprised, especially if they dare to voice its cost
          2. Shkworen
            Shkworen 30 May 2021 22: 09
            0
            the link does not open :(
          3. Looking for
            Looking for 31 May 2021 18: 53
            -1
            lie. agitation and propaganda in Ukraine has reached unprecedented proportions. Everywhere is window dressing. and nationalist chatter.
        3. Eug
          Eug 30 May 2021 16: 49
          +1
          On the first An-178 there were problems with centering - like 1300 kg. ballast was loaded just behind the cockpit. So they probably recounted and reworked. Another thing is interesting - how did you get rid of the Russian components in a fairly short time? There were a lot of them ... About the D-436 engine, Boguslaev said that it (the engine) is also more than 70% Russian ... The intentions are certainly serious - the Kiev aircraft plant bought the equipment for the production of the titanium center section of the An-1x8 aircraft from Kharkov.
          1. Reviews
            Reviews 30 May 2021 17: 10
            -8
            Quote: Eug
            How did you get rid of the Russian components in a fairly short time? There were a lot of them ...

            In a glider? From duralumin and a handful of composites? :) Well, we got rid of it somehow, it's not difficult.
          2. AC130 Ganship
            AC130 Ganship 31 May 2021 17: 47
            -2
            D-436 is a Ukrainian engine. Due to its absence, the production of the Be200 was stopped for several years in due time. And Angara stopped operating An148 due to the fact that it was impossible to carry out planned maintenance.
            1. Eug
              Eug 31 May 2021 19: 34
              0
              There was an interview with Boguslaev about the fact that in Russia they put SaMs on the Jets, in which he said that in fact, according to the materials and components of the D-436, more than 70% Russian. And it is produced in Ukraine in Zaporozhye, no one disputes this. The certificate of origin, of course, is also Ukrainian.
        4. Bad_gr
          Bad_gr 30 May 2021 21: 20
          +4
          Quote: Shurik70
          Five months on the fuselage ... Something long.

          Quote: Avis
          Normal for an experimental board. You never know what they recounted / altered there.
          Probably looking for a tail to fit this body. Judging by the result, something was picked up.
          1. AC130 Ganship
            AC130 Ganship 31 May 2021 17: 50
            -1
            It's good that they picked it up. But the Ilyushenians were not able to switch to the fuselage under the standard size of the container for the Il112, because stuck there a cargo ramp of the 70s of development from IL76
        5. Smirnov Sergey
          Smirnov Sergey 31 May 2021 13: 05
          +2
          What did they count? Do they make other fuselages for Peru? They just have one slipway for all and there are few workers left.
      2. venik
        venik 30 May 2021 20: 45
        +1
        Quote: Shurik70
        Five months on the fuselage ...
        Something long.
        They're not building a naval battleship

        =======
        Lord! But after all it was the same time, when the plant "Antonov" in Kiev, riveted transport workers, like "hot cakes", a few dozen a year! We didn't have time to fly around!
    2. credo
      credo 30 May 2021 15: 46
      +7
      Quote: ALSur
      The German press writes that this plane is a reason for the pride of Ukrainians. Where is the praise of the German press here?

      Well, where? In the text of the article itself.
      Imagine that now in the nationalist-oriented Ukrainian press it starts - "Germany has praised us, but Russia has not, so we are moving in the right direction."
      And everything is in the same spirit.

      The Fritzes are determined to prevent the unification of Ukraine with Russia and will do everything for this purpose, including praising the idians for ditching their high-tech industry inherited from the USSR.
      1. sevryuk
        sevryuk 30 May 2021 17: 15
        +2
        Not Ukraine with Russia, the BUSSR and the BRSFSR.
    3. RealPilot
      RealPilot 31 May 2021 00: 06
      -3
      Eh, but the moment will come when this plant will return to us ...
      Inevitably.
      Let it be better alive and with projects than sold out for housing complexes and shopping centers.

      Even a few aircraft for the Armed Forces of Ukraine will not make the difference, and the finally ditched plant is a loss for Russia as well. And the enemies will be happy!

      Similarly, with the "Motor-Sich", and with the "Ivchenko-Progress", and with the Kharkov tank them. Morozov ...
      In general, Antonov will also build aircraft for the common Great Country! soldier
      I would like to believe in it ...
      1. orionvitt
        orionvitt 31 May 2021 06: 50
        +4
        Quote: RealPilot
        Eh, but the moment will come when this plant will return to us ...

        If something comes back with Ukraine, then only ruins.
      2. AC130 Ganship
        AC130 Ganship 31 May 2021 17: 53
        0
        Are you seriously? I personally know many Ukrainians living both in the east and in the west of the country. Well, in Kiev, of course. Age - from ~ 40-45 to ~ 55. Everyone is very patriotic. We will not say anything about youth at all
        1. Looking for
          Looking for 31 May 2021 18: 59
          0
          it is they "patriotic" while toilets go to wash around the cordon. and eat up the remains of European trenches.
  2. Alien From
    Alien From 30 May 2021 15: 29
    +4
    At this rate, the zrada will grow old and die ...
    1. credo
      credo 30 May 2021 15: 50
      +2
      Quote: Alien From
      At this rate, the zrada will grow old and die ...

      This is the case when the main process is not the result.
  3. Jacket in stock
    Jacket in stock 30 May 2021 15: 30
    +4
    The maximum payload of the new aircraft is 18 tons, the flight range is 4200 km, and the cruising speed is 825 km / h. The spacious cargo compartment has a volume of 167 cubic meters, allowing to accommodate more than 90 soldiers or 86 paratroopers in equipment (or up to 48 stretchers for the wounded). It also provides for the air discharge of cargo and equipment weighing up to 7,5 tons.

    So it seems like a good plane.
    Our Air Force would also be useful. In fact, it was made with Russian money at one time, when our Defense Ministry preferred to develop exactly "Antonov", putting Il and Tu on starvation rations.
    Now we have no planes either, and they have no one to sell theirs to.
    I wonder where they got the money for 3 ordered new aircraft?
    1. avg
      avg 30 May 2021 15: 54
      +3
      Quote: Jacket in stock
      I wonder where they got the money for 3 ordered new aircraft?

      There is no money, the plane is made on credit money, there is a threat of bankruptcy. But for PR for Ze, it will be rolled back and forth more than once.
    2. knn54
      knn54 30 May 2021 16: 09
      +1
      I agree with my colleague (jacket in stock) 100%.
      For 2 ... 3 years before the Maidan, due to the ambitions of the parties (mainly the Il or Tu lobbyists, I don't remember), Ukraine and the Russian Federation fled.
      And there was also a joint project for a passenger plane.
      1. House 25 Sq. 380
        House 25 Sq. 380 1 June 2021 15: 43
        +1
        Lobbyists silt and that ??? Antonov lobbyists all the way from 1992 to 2014 drove over the ears of the Ministry of Defense, the Ministry of Industry and the government apparatus
        1. Konnick
          Konnick 1 June 2021 15: 46
          +1
          Lobbyists silt and that ??? Antonov lobbyists all the way from 1992 to 2014 drove over the ears of the Ministry of Defense, the Ministry of Industry and the government apparatus


          I photographed this poster at CIAM. "This is a good example of integration with Ukrainian colleagues" Putin V.V.
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          2. House 25 Sq. 380
            House 25 Sq. 380 1 June 2021 18: 43
            0
            Exactly .... And there is still enough audacity to complain about the "silt" and "tu" lobbyists! Russian manufacturers !!!
    3. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 30 May 2021 16: 13
      -9
      If you believe the Ukrainian media (this news has been covered for three days already), then it seems that some bank gives money under state guarantees. Well, the profit from "Antonov" this year is also present. I don’t remember the numbers.
      1. K150
        K150 30 May 2021 16: 50
        +9
        Believe the Ukrainian media ?! Wrong with the church?
        1. Avior
          Avior 30 May 2021 18: 22
          .
          What kind of media do you believe?
          I just would like to understand where they are like ...
  4. Timon2155
    Timon2155 30 May 2021 15: 30
    +2
    Wait and see. It’s a bit early for optimism: they began to do a lot, completed a single piece of equipment. And always the beginning is the same: bravura speeches, press, pump and so on, at the exit - zilch.
  5. SERGE ANT
    SERGE ANT 30 May 2021 15: 34
    +2
    Until that moment, the only customer for the An-178 was Peru, which also purchased three aircraft for its Air Force.
    A third of which consisted of parts made in Russia. The representatives of the South American country refused the services of the Ukrainians, revealing the deception, and are now looking closely at the Russian Il-112. This aircraft is an analogue of the An-178, but its acquisition is not associated with such serious problems.It is also interesting whether the design error was eliminated or not, due to the incorrect alignment of the liner, the An-178 can perform any long flights only with ballast. weighing 1,32 tons in the form of 15 steel plates, laid behind the cockpit. It was with such a load that the An-178 traveled to the air shows in Le Bourget and Dubai. Immediately after landing, the ballast was quickly unloaded and hid. Is there any reason for pride now, I would like to know ..
    1. Andylw
      Andylw 30 May 2021 15: 47
      .
      Quote: SERGE ant
      Representatives of the South American country refused the services of Ukrainians, revealing the deception, and now they are looking closely at the Russian Il-112

      it's a lie
      no one broke the contract with Peru and the plane is under construction
      1. SERGE ANT
        SERGE ANT 30 May 2021 15: 59
        +12
        MOSCOW, November 12 - RIA Novosti. Ukraine wanted to sell an An-65 stealth plane to Peru for $ 178 million, according to the website of the Federation of Journalists of Peru. The resource notes that Russia can offer an alternative.
        Earlier, a source in the field of military-technical cooperation told RIA Novosti that Peru suspended the contract signed in 2019 for the purchase of Ukrainian An-178 aircraft to replace the outdated An-32 for the national police, since the customer estimates its implementation as unlikely. According to the source, the Ukrainian side deliberately misinformed the Peruvians a year ago, promising that there would be no problems with Russian elements, in fact, the plane is only 40% ready, since there are no Russian components for it, the Ukrainians could not find a replacement for them.
        Centering issues are also a lie, right? Then refute it, if you please.
        1. Andylw
          Andylw 30 May 2021 16: 30
          .
          Well, how long can you drive this nonsense?
          the next day after this fake, the Peruvians denied the break of the contract after the demonstration of the assembly of the aircraft
          https://spetstechnoexport.com/en/news/168?fbclid=IwAR0Pelpxdi7rFiIpzywu8nfWTrGqq7DHUeNT0L_b5YHnh2s5h8BOs2EWVXk
          and here is more about fake
          https://naukatehnika.com/sudba-kontrakta-na-postavku-an-178-dlya-peru.html
          "The Peruvian authorities, for their part, have assured that the contract for the supply of An-178 is valid and there is no reason to cancel it."
          1. sevryuk
            sevryuk 30 May 2021 17: 23
            -5
            "The Peruvian authorities, from their side, assured that the contract for the supply of AN-178 is valid and there is no reason to cancel it" - where is the proof of the statements of the Peruvian side. DB ...
            1. Andylw
              Andylw 30 May 2021 17: 32
              .
              so find a proof from the Peruvians about breaking the contract. DB!
              and the plane is under construction for Peru
              1. Hwostatij
                Hwostatij 30 May 2021 17: 49
                +3
                so find a proof from the Peruvians about breaking the contract. DB!
                and the plane is under construction for Peru

                Excuse me:
                I would like to say more, because there has been a lot of writing about this in the media. About 1.5 years ago, the leaders of Ukroboronprom signed a contract with Peru for one An-178 aircraft and made a lot of PR about this. They signed a contract with Peru for $ 65 million, they classified it so that no one knew what was written there. But then an acquaintance told me that there is 26% (and this is almost 16 million dollars) of the rollback, so, naturally, our plane won the competition of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Peru. But then, when they figured out in Peru that the plane was not mass-produced, it was unclear how to certify it, and so on. According to the information that I saw in the media today, they suspended this contract there, and the head who signed it was removed from office. Since Antonov did not receive a single penny of money under this contract, they stopped its production.

                https://hvylya.net/interview/226947-pochemu-vtoraya-mriya-an-225-nikogda-ne-vzletit-anatoliy-vovnyanko-o-sostoyanii-aviastroeniya-ukrainy
                1. Andylw
                  Andylw 30 May 2021 18: 07
                  .
                  ahah ...
                  According to the information that I saw in the media today

                  proof of the level "my grandmother told me yesterday at the entrance" ...))
                  Where is the official statement of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Peru on the termination of the contract for the An-178?
                  the official links of spetstechnoexport, which is the contractor, I have given above
                  Peruvians confirm that the contract is valid
                  An aircraft is under construction for Peru, news from this year on the construction of this aircraft is easily googled
                  1. Hwostatij
                    Hwostatij 30 May 2021 18: 13
                    +3
                    Where is the official statement of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Peru on the termination of the contract for the An-178?

                    Do you want them to publicly repent of corruption chtoli? To be honest, I hardly imagine such an opportunity.
                    1. Andylw
                      Andylw 30 May 2021 19: 01
                      -7
                      You want them to publicly repent of corruption chtoli

                      why not?
                      the minister who signed the contract with the Ukrainians was removed with a scandal
                      just because of corruption
                      so if the contract were to be terminated, everyone in Peru would trample on this topic ..
                      would not have missed an opportunity to kick the former minister
                2. Avior
                  Avior 30 May 2021 18: 26
                  -8
                  ... But then an acquaintance told me that there is a 26% (and this is almost $ 16 million) rollback

                  This is how the OBS is called now :))))
                  1. Hwostatij
                    Hwostatij 30 May 2021 18: 38
                    +1
                    Well, I admit it, the source is unverifiable. On the other hand, Comrade Vovnyanko is quite famous in narrow circles - maybe he didn't lie at all. In any case, it is unlikely that such things can be confirmed or refuted by a reliable link. request
                    1. Avior
                      Avior 30 May 2021 18: 49
                      -8
                      I strongly doubt that the subtleties about the size of the rollback, if any, are communicated to anyone by the interested parties. Moreover, such a rollback.
                      Not and d and about you they are.
                      But to be honest, it looks a lot like gossip.
                      1. Hwostatij
                        Hwostatij 30 May 2021 19: 19
                        +1
                        Well, the order of the rollback can be quite figured out. For example, we recently changed 2 transformers at the substation. Each costs an average of 90 million rubles at the plant. The securities were transferred to the balance sheet for 140. It is not difficult to calculate the size of the rollback in the pocket of the management)))
                      2. Avior
                        Avior 30 May 2021 20: 00
                        -2
                        The pricing of an aircraft contract is very different from the purchase of commercially available transformers.
                        In addition, the quote was not about figured out, but supposedly someone told him that it was 16 million.
                        hi
                      3. House 25 Sq. 380
                        House 25 Sq. 380 1 June 2021 15: 47
                        0
                        What is the dispute about? You can show a photo from the workshop built for the Peru side - and that's it ...
                        Let me remind you that on the Gatt diagram we are at "06/01/2021"
  • farm2009
    farm2009 30 May 2021 16: 07
    +3
    Where is the Il-112 analogue of the An-178? In fantasies? These are generally planes of different classes. And it's better to keep quiet about the Il-112, with a high degree of probability, it will never be able to fulfill the laid down performance characteristics. It is a pity that we seem to have lost honest and responsible managers who could come out and say that the project is a failure and an urgent need to start a new project, and not continue to waste time and money.
    1. Constanty
      Constanty 30 May 2021 16: 20
      +2
      Where is the Il-112 analogue of the An-178?


      Both are considered replacements for the An-12 and An-26.
      1. farm2009
        farm2009 30 May 2021 16: 28
        0
        Yeah =) Il 112 with a carrying capacity of 5 tons was supposed to replace the An 12 with a carrying capacity of 20 tons. Apparently, the replacement will be in a ratio of 4 to 1.
        1. Constanty
          Constanty 30 May 2021 16: 33
          +2
          This is a question for those who decided so. With such a disproportion, even the 3-ton overload of the Il-112 airframe practically does not change.
          1. URAL72
            URAL72 30 May 2021 17: 07
            0
            Kostya, what are you talking about? To replace the An-12, another Il, -214 is being developed.
            1. Slavors Gart
              Slavors Gart 30 May 2021 22: 49
              -1
              Not 214, but IL-276
  • parusnik
    parusnik 30 May 2021 15: 43
    +2
    One thing is interesting, is it completely Ukrainian, from the bolt onwards?
    1. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 30 May 2021 16: 17
      -3
      If you believe the Ukrainian media, then there are no Russian accessories. And nobody canceled cooperation with other firms / countries.
      1. K150
        K150 30 May 2021 16: 53
        0
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        If you believe the Ukrainian media, then there are no Russian accessories. And nobody canceled cooperation with other firms / countries.

        Lord, will you ever stop writing this nonsense? You believe in the Ukrainian media, you do not believe in torchlight processions, you believe in the Ukrainian army. You're a shitty provocateur.
        1. The leader of the Redskins
          The leader of the Redskins 30 May 2021 17: 06
          -4
          You confused something - it was not with me that they grazed the pigs to poke them ...
  • Reviews
    Reviews 30 May 2021 15: 43
    -9
    An-178-100R


    Actually, on the plane there is an inscription "Antonov-178-100P", not "Antonov-178-100R".
  • morpogr
    morpogr 30 May 2021 15: 46
    +3
    Support in all its glory, and then the Ukrainians will cite this article with delight and pretense as a recognition of the independent aircraft industry. And the plane will remain without wings and engines as a monument to ukraine's ambitions.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 30 May 2021 16: 08
    +1
    Who cares what they have and how ... let them figure it out themselves.
    We have our own worries above the roof and in aviation too.
  • mark1
    mark1 30 May 2021 16: 09
    -1
    You can, of course, be skeptical, giggle, but ... where is our Il-276, at least in the form of a fuselage? How many is there, -15-20 years of continuous development? The An-70 is the same - as far as I know, 50% of the intellectual property should be Russian, I don't remember, but it seems like a fuselage (which might be perfect for a 276), a tail unit and something else that should have been produced in the Russian Federation, like ours so easily could refuse? An-140, production was localized, well, they would call the LTS-140, drill a couple of extra holes, rearrange something with something and for how many years they would have been producing it as their own product and torturing the Il-112 (if it was needed)
    1. House 25 Sq. 380
      House 25 Sq. 380 1 June 2021 15: 50
      0
      And where to get the engines for the "Russian" An-70?
  • Constanty
    Constanty 30 May 2021 16: 13
    +2
    And what does the An-178 look like in comparison with the Il-112? - I'm not even talking about avionics or the need to replace imported elements, as well as about the carrying capacity and weight of the airframe.

    However, Antonov appears to be a better engineered aircraft. Another thing is that due to the fall of Ukraine, only theoretically
    1. mark1
      mark1 30 May 2021 16: 19
      -1
      Quote: Constanty
      However, Antonov appears to be a better engineered aircraft.

      It's just that Antonov was very pragmatic about the design. Soviet An-74 - basic, on its basis An148, An-158, An-178.
      1. Constanty
        Constanty 30 May 2021 16: 23
        +3
        This shows once again how much has been achieved during the Soviet era and that much is still being learned from this zodiac !.
      2. Looking for
        Looking for 31 May 2021 19: 05
        -1
        "Cheburashka" was and remains the best of all of the above.
    2. K150
      K150 30 May 2021 16: 56
      0
      Well, yes, the ballast of 1 ton, which the 178th must carry in the fuselage so that it does not fall apart, is apparently better designed ...
  • markant1970
    markant1970 30 May 2021 16: 35
    -3
    I read that the Antonovites, especially for the Peruvians, conducted an online video demonstration of the fuselage after the news from RIA Novosti
    about the alleged impossibility of fulfilling the contract. The contract is in force, the fuselage rolled out in April
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 30 May 2021 16: 38
    -1
    With Bandera in power, there will be no plane. There are no miracles.
    1. Shiden
      Shiden 30 May 2021 19: 29
      -1
      Quote: Ros 56
      With Bandera in power, there will be no plane. There are no miracles.

      You know, I also did not believe that under the current government in Ukraine "Alder" "Neptune" "Bogdana" would appear, although many here also commented that this was all fantasy.
      1. Looking for
        Looking for 31 May 2021 19: 12
        -3
        and tell. khokhlofil. that the above products exist in the number of 35.7 products? or are they already divisions. batteries. regiments?
      2. House 25 Sq. 380
        House 25 Sq. 380 1 June 2021 15: 53
        0
        And rightly so: this is fantasy ..
      3. oprovergatel
        oprovergatel 4 June 2021 16: 21
        0
        And "Vilha" and "Whisper" are there somewhere, besides fantasies ukrosmi, besides the prototype of nedosau (by the way, how much is there directly ukorinsky?) Is there anything else?

        Have you already learned how to make artillery barrels on Ukorin?
  • Scorpion85
    Scorpion85 30 May 2021 17: 27
    -5
    In the meantime, An-148 continues to "crush concrete" at the Irkutsk airport.

    In Russia, it was recognized that it was impossible to operate the An-148 without Ukraine. Only one of the five An-148 aircraft of the Angara airline can be operated, while the other four “crush the concrete” at the Irkutsk airport due to the lack of AI-450-MS conditioned auxiliary power units (APU) produced by the Ukrainian company Motor-Sich , CEO of the company Sergey Salmatov told the portal Propeller.News.

    The head explained the impossibility of full-fledged operation of the aircraft by the "collapse of the former Soviet aviation industry", in particular, by the modern relations between Russia and Ukraine. “After all, in fact, the An-148 is a joint product of the two countries,” Salmatov admitted. “All talks about the serial production of An-148 for commercial airlines have gradually faded away. As a result, in 2018, the Voronezh aircraft plant produced the last aircraft for the Russian Ministry of Defense. Since then, the production of the An-148 in Russia has been mothballed, ”the CEO admitted.

    Salmatov recalled that the developer of the aircraft and its first manufacturer was the Ukrainian state enterprise (SE) Antonov, on the basis of the design documentation of which the Voronezh Joint-Stock Aircraft Manufacturing Company (VASO) began to produce the An-148.

    According to him, currently Angara has ten D-436-148 propulsion engines for AN-148, five of which were suspended from operation due to technical inconsistencies by Motor Sich's decision. Of the 12 AI-450-MS APUs available to the airline, ten were suspended due to technical inconsistencies. “As a result, only a couple of serviceable AI-450MS engines are in operation, which are installed on the RA-61711 and RA-61714 machines. As you can see, now we can actually operate only one An-148 out of five, ”Salmatov said.

    The head added that the Russian company Borisfen, associated with Motor Sich, has not yet completed the repair of the engines sent to him, and modular repair of engines for the An-148 is ineffective under the conditions of the latter.
    1. House 25 Sq. 380
      House 25 Sq. 380 1 June 2021 15: 52
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      Yes, Antonovskoe gamno has to be disposed of for a long time ...
  • Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 30 May 2021 17: 33
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    The new plane gives them a reason to be proud

    Well, if there is no reason, let them at least be comforted by the reason ... request
  • ximkim
    ximkim 30 May 2021 17: 36
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    The Ukrainian Air Force will not have three planes, because: they want the plane for evil to everyone, the payload tonnage is not indicated, and it will not fly to Washington.
    Horror with wings
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  • CastroRuiz
    CastroRuiz 30 May 2021 18: 57
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    This is just the fuselage and not the plane.
  • Ehmedli
    Ehmedli 31 May 2021 00: 37
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    This plane was once thrown to us (Azerbaijan) by the Ukrainians.
    We trust them, transfer money, and they take it and throw it ..
    1. Ros 56
      Ros 56 31 May 2021 05: 21
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      You are not the first, you are not the last, maybe the example of China will comfort you?
  • Evil 55
    Evil 55 31 May 2021 05: 17
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    "An-178 version 100R" .. "100R" means "100 percent disassembled"?
  • Smirnov Sergey
    Smirnov Sergey 31 May 2021 13: 08
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    An airplane, maybe. would not be bad, only 3 or even 6 aircraft will not save the aircraft industry in Ukraine. They profiled the Indian market, quarreled with China and Russia. Whom to sell to? in Europe their products are not needed, in Asia and Africa there is no money for them.
  • 1536
    1536 31 May 2021 14: 19
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    German propaganda is disgusting!
  • Dmitry Rodrigis
    Dmitry Rodrigis 31 May 2021 23: 25
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    In general, Peru abandoned these aircraft and with the contract for the Armed Forces, not everything is going smoothly - the contract is under threat of disruption and Antonov risks losing large areas in the center of Kiev,
  • fuffi
    fuffi 1 June 2021 11: 02
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    Quote: Dmitry Rodrigis
    In general, Peru abandoned these aircraft and with the contract for the Armed Forces, not everything is going smoothly - the contract is under threat of disruption and Antonov risks losing large areas in the center of Kiev,

    just the wheel of ganny did not turn a full turn)))) but this is inevitable, so that the adherents of democracy do not write))))
  • xomaNN
    xomaNN 1 June 2021 12: 12
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    I am more interested: in the Russian Federation, about the same class of IL-112/114 "is brought to mind."

    Who will fly faster in the series: Ukrainian. An-178-100R or Russian. Il-112/114? drinks
    1. Zufei
      Zufei 1 June 2021 14: 11
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      Quote: xomaNN
      I am more interested: in the Russian Federation, about the same class of IL-112/114 "is brought to mind."

      Who will fly faster in the series: Ukrainian. An-178-100R or Russian. Il-112/114? drinks

      KamAZ and Gazelle are also of the same class?
      1. xomaNN
        xomaNN 1 June 2021 14: 47
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        I mean the difficulty of resuming the technological process of assembling / completing the aircraft as such after the collapse of the aviation industries in each of the countries. ... And not the identity of the TTX. hi
  • 8K63
    8K63 1 June 2021 15: 06
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    Dunoon ... The renewed tanks cannot be riveted, the contracts have failed .. The updated mortar explodes the ammunition in its own barrel, while "covering" its own staff, the improved machine gun refuses to fire during the demonstration ..
    And then right off the bat produced? But this is not a tank, let alone a mortar with a machine gun ... From the shown piece of the fuselage to the creation of a full-fledged aircraft, well, a very long road. Given the current quality of engineering and design personnel, the collapse of production capacities, extremely low funding and constant "cutting" of allocated funds, the road to creating a full-fledged "summer" will be eternal ... There are a lot of examples ..
  • House 25 Sq. 380
    House 25 Sq. 380 1 June 2021 16: 09
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    The tests of the first side of the An-178 were not carried out in full ... If you try to solve the problem of alignment of the aircraft, the new modernized side must complete the test program from scratch ...
    Before the breakup of relations, Antonov's tests took place in Russia; there are simply no conditions, equipment and competencies in Ukraine ... And then we often turned a blind eye to many things, used abbreviated programs and so on ("brothers" zhezh, damn it) ...
    Building serial aircraft without testing is either PR zeliboba (he is stupid, he thinks that you can deceive many people for a long time, they will not fly anyway), or an ideological "super task": to release the first (and last) serial aircraft in seven years since Maidan. ..
    Both have nothing to do with aviation and aircraft construction ...