Development of domestic weapons based on new physical principles

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Combat laser complex "Peresvet". Photo of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation

Leading countries are looking for technologies to create fundamentally new types of weapons. In our country, similar systems are also being developed, designated as “weapon on new physical principles ”(ONFP). One of these models has already been put into service and is on alert. In the foreseeable future, new systems of the same or another kind are expected to appear.

In an atmosphere of secrecy


In view of their special importance for defense, ONFPs are created in an atmosphere of secrecy. Official reports of such developments are extremely rare and have a very limited volume. However, almost all similar news are of great interest.



Back in March 2018, the development of a mobile laser combat complex was announced. Subsequently, this product was named "Peresvet" and was put into service. At the end of 2019, the new type of complexes took up combat duty. Details of their operation were not disclosed.

In December last year, Deputy Defense Minister Alexei Krivoruchko, in an interview for Krasnaya Zvezda, revealed new information about the current work progress. According to him, new laser systems are being developed to destroy enemy optoelectronic systems and unmanned aerial vehicles. Combat lasers are integrated with armored vehicles' weapons systems.


The main equipment of "Peresvet". Photo of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation

The development of a promising "radio-frequency complex" is also underway, designed to defeat drones enemy. It should inflict a “functional defeat”, which does not mean an electronic warfare system, but a full-fledged “electromagnetic gun”.

The military department sees and understands the capabilities and advantages of the DNFP, and it is proposed to pay close attention to this area. In early May, Deputy Prime Minister Yuri Borisov said in an interview for Interfax that weapons based on new principles in the near future will become one of the priority areas - along with hypersonic systems, robotics and precision weapons. The development of the ONFP will be provided for in the future State Armaments Program, which starts in 2024 and will be carried out until 2033.

Laser direction


The greatest successes among all types of DNFP at the moment are shown by combat lasers. Systems of this class were developed back in Soviet times, and in the recent past, new projects have been implemented. One of them has already been revealed and shown publicly, while others are only mentioned in the most general terms.


Experimental aircraft A-60 with a combat laser on board. Photo of TANTK them. Berieva

Since 2017, Peresvet complexes have been supplied to certain units of the armed forces for testing. Later, such products took up full combat duty. Detailed information about the deployment of combat lasers, their affiliation and the range of tasks to be solved were not officially disclosed. According to various estimates, such complexes can be used to combat aviation, precision weapons or satellites of a potential enemy. Depending on the type of target, the laser can destroy its structure or disable the optical means.

According to the foreign press, "Peresveta" was previously present only on the territory of Russia. Last year, domestic media reported that such equipment was deployed in Syria in May 2020. The details of this operation were not specified. If such information is true, arguments appear in favor of one of the versions about the purpose of the complex.

The anti-aircraft capabilities of the Peresvet product are still in question, while the goals and objectives of other systems under development have already been determined. New laser air defense systems are already being designed, capable of fighting, at least with UAVs. Probably, upon completion of development, they will also be presented to the public.


The Foliage remote mine clearance vehicle is a real limited-range electromagnetic cannon. Photo Wikimedia Commons

Electromagnetic perspective


To date, the domestic industry has shown great progress in the field of electronic warfare, suppressing enemy equipment. In addition, it is known about work in the direction of electromagnetic weapons - systems that affect electronics in the most radical way.

Several years ago, a project with the code "Alabuga" was actively discussed. According to the known data, it was a research work aimed at finding basic solutions and concepts in the field of electromagnetic weapons. Later it was reported about the development of a full-fledged pulsed explosive magnetic generator, suitable for use on various carriers.

According to popular versions, the EMP equipment of the "Alabuga" system will be installed on missiles with suitable characteristics. Their task will be to deliver a generator to a given area, followed by detonation and the formation of an impulse that strikes the enemy's radio-electronic means. However, there is no confirmation of such information. Moreover, they did not even officially announce the transition from the R&D stage to R&D.

Since 2015, an electromagnetic "gun" has been tested - a means for destroying enemy electronics. Last year, it was reported that an experimental sample of such a product confidently incapacitates ground and air targets at ranges up to 10 km. A high level of other characteristics is shown.


Self-propelled laser complex 1K17 "Compression". Photo Vitalykuzmin.net

It is important that at present the EMP cannon project is moving from experiments to the creation of a real model of weapons. The existence of such a project is already being talked about openly, although even its most basic features are not specified. Probably, last year's news about the tests allows us to imagine what the new electromagnetic combat complex will be and what it will be able to do.

It should be recalled that one of the samples of electromagnetic weapons has already entered service. The Strategic Missile Forces operates the Foliage remote mine clearance machine. One of the main assets on board is the so-called. microwave cannon, responsible for the destruction of electronic explosive devices. Practice shows that MDR "Foliage" fully meets the requirements, but the range of its equipment does not exceed several tens of meters.

Other new principles


Several years ago, it was reported about an experimental rail gun of domestic development. This product has been tested and collected the required data. According to unconfirmed reports, the work continues, but nothing is known about their results. However, a prolonged lack of information may indicate the continuation of research and development work - their results may be shown at any time.


One of the "Compression" lenses. Photo Vitalykuzmin.net

Systems based on sound vibrations, geophysical, genetic and other weapon systems are also referred to the ONFP category. All these areas are not yet receiving sufficient attention in our country or abroad. Probably, projects of this kind will appear in the future, but their development is still a long way off.

Weapons for the future


To expand the capabilities and increase the combat effectiveness of the armed forces, it is necessary to develop weapons and equipment of existing classes, as well as to develop fundamentally new systems. It is these processes that can be observed at the present time in all leading countries. In the field of weapons, based on new physical principles, several directions are being worked out at the same time, while accents and priorities are set in accordance with the needs and capabilities of countries.

In our country, special attention is paid to combat lasers. Weapons of this class have been brought to combat duty, and new models are being created. All types of electronic systems are also actively developing, including those that hit the target with an impulse. Work in other directions, if any, is carried out at a slower pace.

At the same time, it is obvious that the Russian army and industry as a whole are showing great interest in the topic of the ONFP. The most realistic projects and proposals are supported and developed. And due to such measures, a serious scientific and technical reserve is created for future rearmament and increasing combat effectiveness.
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  1. +1
    6 June 2021 03: 46
    Since 2017, Peresvet complexes have been supplied to certain units of the armed forces for testing.

    Peresvet is a "heavy" laser, while lighter lasers are being developed and put into service in Israel and the United States. For example, the UAV "Elbit" with a laser installation on the nose. It is argued that the Elbit UAV can become an alternative to the Iron Dome.
    https://mignews.com/news/technology/260521_135037_22637.html
    1. +11
      6 June 2021 05: 02
      Quote: riwas
      For example, the UAV "Elbit" with a laser installation on the nose.

      The capabilities of the Elbit and Peresvet lasers are not known either. If they claim that "Peresvet" can produce from 3 to 10 MW (and I believe in this), then I wonder what the power of "Elbit" is - in theory, if, as a destroyer, 10-30 kilowatts would be needed (and more than once), but will he be able to?
      1. -6
        6 June 2021 05: 39
        Systems based on sound vibrations, geophysical, genetic and other weapon systems are also referred to the ONFP category. All these areas are not yet receiving sufficient attention in our country or abroad. Probably, projects of this kind will appear in the future, but their development is still a long way off..



        A very strange judgment, especially against the background of COVID-19, which a number of scientists consider to be an artificially created, genetically modified virus.
        And in the presence of a wide network of American military biological laboratories around the world, including in the immediate vicinity of us.

        And the high-profile scandals with the unauthorized collection of biological genetic materials in our country, and in the world as a whole, do not they indicate intensive work in this direction in the United States?
        1. +1
          6 June 2021 12: 36
          Quote: mark1
          I wonder what is the power of "Elbit"

          The Turks, no matter how hard they tried, could not make more than 2,5 kW. And there they have the dimensions of the installation the size of a truck body.
          So 1 kW is the maximum.
          If it is a microwave laser, then it is quite effective against unshielded electronics - handicraft homing missiles and drones.
          Against unguided rockets, even artisanal ones, it is almost useless.
      2. +6
        6 June 2021 08: 22
        It all depends on the source of energy, and what kind of energy can it be on the UAV? Currently, there are no such powerful and miniature in the world. If only there were, then this is a revolution, no hydroelectric power plants, thermal power plants and nuclear power plants are needed. And what prospects open up for tracked and wheeled vehicles. Email I put the engine on, put in such an energizer and drove it around the world. Actually, the UAV will be able to hang in the air for years.
        But ..... so far only cartoons.
    2. +2
      6 June 2021 06: 26
      Quote: riwas
      Peresvet is a "heavy" laser, while lighter lasers are being developed and put into service in Israel and the United States.

      Why this is so - lies in the fact that even in the USSR considerable attention was paid to gas-dynamic type and "disk" lasers ...! On their basis, you can create powerful laser "cannons", but "tyzholy"! In NATO and in the "near-Colonat" countries, fiber lasers have recently been developed .... On the basis of which it is possible to create compact, although not too powerful because of their compactness, combat lasers. In the USSR, perhaps, they simply did not have time to take up this direction laser technology! And in the bourgeois RF, much was "lost" from the Soviet legacy ... So, one can assume ...: what the Russian Armed Forces currently have is the legacy of the USSR, to one degree or another!
      1. +2
        6 June 2021 16: 36
        And in the bourgeois RF, much was "lost" from the Soviet legacy ... So, one can assume ...: what the Russian Armed Forces currently have is the legacy of the USSR, to one degree or another! There is no legacy - everything that is now being done from scratch in 30 years everything has changed, new materials have appeared, development systems, technical solutions, etc. - you will not go anywhere on developments 30 years ago. Combat lasers in the USSR were dealt with by VNIIEF VNIITF GOI FIAN TsKB Almaz JSC KBKhA NPO Astrophysics NPO "Special Materials" - of which only NPO Astrophysics has been liquidated at the moment, the rest continue to work.
        1. +2
          7 June 2021 01: 04
          Quote: Vadim237
          There is no legacy - everything that is done now is done from scratch

          Oh, is it? But why is it difficult to find information about active (!) Work in Russia in the field of such laser technologies as fiber, solid-state, liquid lasers, that is, what is popular ("trend") in the development of laser technologies in the "West"? Why are "persistent" assumptions put forward that "Peresvet" is arranged (they say, "most likely"!) On the principles of such laser technologies that they most managed to "develop" in the USSR: from gas-dynamic, chemical lasers to YR lasers ?! So what is it that you have listed the "laser institutions" in the Russian Federation? Well, let there be 10 ... 20 ... what's the difference? The main thing is the results! And where are the "loud" results in "trendy" laser technologies? So we have to assume that "Peresvet" owes its appearance to the "refinement" of USSR technologies!
    3. +8
      6 June 2021 08: 06
      In the words (or rather thoughts) of Einstein "in the 4th world war they will fight with weapons based on OLD physical principles" ...
    4. +1
      6 June 2021 08: 47
      Compression isn't it a Soviet development after which everything died out?
  2. +3
    6 June 2021 06: 37
    There is a request to Kirill Ryabov! I remember how, in the period of excitement, the SDI district broke through in the media fragmentary information about the use of plasma for military purposes ... If the district of this topic is outlined in a circle, then there will be little left in the circle! Why doesn't Kirill take up this "plasma" theme? Maybe I'm wrong, but I think that such a topic may turn out to be very interesting and not "shirpotrebovskoy"!
    1. +2
      6 June 2021 10: 58
      Why doesn't Kirill take up this "plasma" theme?

      Ball lightning as a weapon of war?
      Well, as far as I know, only Shakhparonov I.M. came closest to them in his experiments:
      http://www.sinor.ru/~bukren6/shahparonov.doc
      http://www.sinor.ru/~bukren5/manykin1.doc
      And then they were low-power - the charge of electrons in them was small. Although natural are quite powerful.
      http://www.sinor.ru/~bukren4/nab_shmi.htm
      http://www.sinor.ru/~bukren4/sasovo.htm
      In ancient times, when the "plasmoid climate" was different, the vajra was popular.
      http://www.sinor.ru/~bukren23/ogn_king.doc
      1. +1
        6 June 2021 13: 02
        Quote: riwas
        Ball lightning as a weapon of war?

        Not only lightning ... and ball ...!
  3. +4
    6 June 2021 06: 41
    in general show great interest in the topic of the DNFP. It’s good that we didn’t get to the battle magic! Otherwise it would be: "Turn off the light, grab the gravy!" .... belay
  4. -8
    6 June 2021 07: 20
    Development of domestic weapons based on new physical principles

    The main thing that is needed to create weapons based on new physical principles are scientists. That is, fundamental and applied science should be developed at the global level. Competition in universities for the relevant specialties must be high in order for the best to take these places. Accordingly, scientists should receive a lot, a lot. The material and technical base should be the best in the world, well, or no worse than ... And only then it will be possible to say that weapons are being handed over based on new physical principles. Otherwise, where does it come from? Where do scientists come from (today in the Russian Federation there is not a single living Nobel laureate), where do laboratories come from? In the meantime, "secrecy" conceals the lack of developments or their wretchedness. Then it is necessary, after checking the battle in Syria, to massively remove from service the failed development.
    Last but not least is the atmosphere of openness. There is no science without it. It is impossible to achieve a breakthrough without contacts in international scientific communities. Spy mania is a road to nowhere.
    1. +5
      6 June 2021 07: 42
      Openness is good, of course ... but spy mania is more likely a disease of Western countries where Petrov and Boshirov from the GRU appear on every corner.
      Therefore, spy mania should be treated starting with the United States and Brussels.
      1. -6
        6 June 2021 07: 59
        Quote: Lech from Android.
        Openness is good, of course ... but spy mania is more likely a disease of Western countries where Petrov and Boshirov from the GRU appear on every corner.
        Therefore, spy mania should be treated starting with the United States and Brussels.

        You are not at all in the subject. How many such news from the USA?

        Scientist and inventor Alexei Temirev was sentenced to 7,5 years in prison for transferring classified information to Vietnam. The defense argued that the information due to which he was accused of high treason is in the public domain.

        Read more at RBC:
        https://www.rbc.ru/society/13/02/2020/5e44f9ff9a794726a2259f98

        And it became very easy for a Russian scientist to become a "treason": it is enough to go abroad at least once, have access to a state secret, or receive a foreign grant. But without grants, Russian science cannot develop (budget money is spent on anything, just not on fundamental research and education), and everyone in the world has long understood that it is impossible to promote science without international cooperation.
        https://novayagazeta.ru/articles/2020/11/27/88134-berut-lyudey-s-opytom-lomayut-zhizni-otnimayut-rabotu-i-zdorovie

        US scientists should write reports to the FBI with whom did they meet and what did they talk about?
        1. +4
          6 June 2021 08: 17
          I'm in the subject ... smile the prefix scientist does not mean that he can transfer secret information to other countries to the detriment of the state.
          Israel should repent for its scholar Mordechai Vannuna.
          In Western countries, if a scientist starts chatting too much and communicating with someone, the punishment for this comes quickly ... in the worst case, sudden death from a heart attack or a car accident, at best, they will simply be fired.
          1. -5
            6 June 2021 08: 30
            Quote: Lech from Android.
            I'm in the subject ... the prefix scientist does not mean that he can transfer classified information to other countries to the detriment of the state.

            Yes?
            Valentin Moiseev, an orientalist and former employee of the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, was one of the first convicted under the article "Treason" of the capital's scientists. He was accused of spying for South Korea. The reason for the arrest was the handing over to the adviser of the Embassy of the Republic of Korea in Moscow Cho Song U of the abstracts of the report "Russian Policy on the Korean Peninsula" read out the day before at the official Russian-Korean symposium.

            FSB called the report a secret official document, xalthough his theses were published in a scientific collection and posted on the Internet. The Committee for the Defense of Scientists stated that violations during the investigation and trial that took place in the Moiseyev case became a vivid evidence of his “ordered” nature, and his “appointment” as a “spy” was supposed to show the public the rampant foreign penetration even into the Foreign Ministry.


            Quote: Lech from Android.
            Israel should repent for its scholar Mordechai Vannuna.

            As soon as Vahanun becomes a scholar, we will repent.

            Quote: Lech from Android.
            In Western countries, if a scientist starts chatting too much and communicating with someone, the punishment for this comes quickly ... in the worst case, sudden death from a heart attack or a car accident, at best, they will simply be fired.

            Enough tales. Israeli scientists do postdocs at leading universities in the world without any problems and no one was imprisoned for this.
            1. +12
              6 June 2021 08: 44
              Your country is killing Iranian physicists insolently and openly ... what kind of stories are there.
              And after that you have no right to talk about our scientists.
              If your scientists would share secret information about Israel's nuclear weapons with our special services, I am sure the Mossad would quickly transfer the perpetrators to your prisons.
              Recently, Blinken spoke to the leadership of the Mossad with gratitude for the successful operations against Iran in this regard ... two boots of a pair.
              1. +6
                6 June 2021 08: 57
                Quote: Lech from Android.
                Your country is killing Iranian physicists insolently and openly ... what kind of stories are there.
                And after that you have no right to talk about our scientists.

                In in!
                They openly and brazenly destroy scientists and scientific objects, and after that they still have enough audacity to sit and be smart about the openness of science)))
              2. -10
                6 June 2021 12: 15
                Quote: Lech from Android.
                Your country is killing Iranian physicists insolently and openly ... what kind of stories are there.

                What is this nonsense? Especially about "brazenly and openly"? I understand that all the troubles with the Persians are attributed to us, but unsubstantiated murder charges are too much.
                And what does this have to do with the article?

                Quote: Lech from Android.
                And after that you have no right to talk about our scientists.

                Say what? That the salaries are beggarly. that the organs are nightmares. that the material and technical base is below any criticism?

                Quote: Lech from Android.
                If your scientists would share secret information about Israel's nuclear weapons with our special services, I am sure the Mossad would quickly transfer the perpetrators to your prisons.

                You are missing the point again. We are not prohibited from contacts of our scientists (even nuclear scientists) with foreign colleagues. Moreover, these contacts including postings are welcome.

                Quote: Lech from Android.
                Recently, Blinken spoke to the leadership of the Mossad with gratitude for the successful operations against Iran in this regard ... two boots of a pair.

                Did you attend the meeting?
    2. +5
      6 June 2021 08: 19
      Quote: professor
      Then, after checking the battle in Syria, it is necessary to massively remove from service the failed developments

      Name at least one precedent, or can you only engage in Russophobic chatter?
      1. -12
        6 June 2021 08: 30
        Quote: Narak-zempo
        Quote: professor
        Then, after checking the battle in Syria, it is necessary to massively remove from service the failed developments

        Name at least one precedent, or can you only engage in Russophobic chatter?

        Why do you accuse Shoigu of Russophobia?
        1. 0
          6 June 2021 10: 14
          Quote: professor
          Why do you accuse Shoigu of Russophobia?

          Shoigu is also nerus.
          But do not blame yourself on a sore head: name specific samples taken from service as a result of operations in Syria.
          1. -5
            6 June 2021 12: 17
            Quote: Narak-zempo
            Shoigu is also nerus.

            AND? You have a sea in the federation of "non-Russians".

            Quote: Narak-zempo
            But do not blame yourself on a sore head: name specific samples taken from service as a result of operations in Syria.

            Questions to Shoigu.
            1. +1
              6 June 2021 13: 16
              Quote: professor
              Questions to Shoigu.

              That is, in fact, there are no such precedents, but here you write according to the principle of "crowing, but there at least don't dawn."
              1. -1
                6 June 2021 14: 24
                Quote: Narak-zempo
                Quote: professor
                Questions to Shoigu.

                That is, in fact, there are no such precedents, but here you write according to the principle of "crowing, but there at least don't dawn."

                In fact, this was stated by the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation. If you think he is crowing, then the claims to him.
      2. 0
        8 June 2021 09: 06
        Quote: Narak-zempo
        Name at least one precedent, or can you only engage in Russophobic chatter?

        what
        https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/11440475 - eg.
        MOSCOW, May 21. / TASS /. About a dozen samples of weapons out of 300 tested in Syria have been removed from service by the Russian army. This was announced by the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation, General of the Army Sergei Shoigu, at a lecture at the Novoye Znanie marathon.

        Will Shoigu's words go for?


        P-s. S-s.
        If anything,...

        I am Russian.!.
        1. -1
          8 June 2021 09: 23
          Quote: Yves762
          https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/11440475 - например.
          MOSCOW, May 21. / TASS /. About a dozen samples of weapons out of 300 tested in Syria have been removed from service by the Russian army. This was announced by the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation, General of the Army Sergei Shoigu, at a lecture at the Novoye Znanie marathon.

          15 out of 300 is 5% of the total. If you look at how many weapons in history did not justify themselves in real combat, then this is not much. Moreover, it is not known how many of these 5% are soviet junk.
          1. 0
            8 June 2021 09: 30
            The converse is not known either. wink
            On the other hand, the same M-16 was also not the "biggest percentage" of the rolled-in "Matra"SS-niki "(tm) in Vietnam. And how much grief they grabbed with her then ... crying
            Conversely, in Syria, the Russian Federation is not fighting the most "powerful" enemy.
            How it is in the conflict, even if Israel or Turkey would be, is still a big question.
            (well, or at least like the USSR (where without laughing ) with the States in Korea or Vietnam)
    3. +2
      6 June 2021 08: 38
      Quote: professor
      The main thing that is needed to create weapons based on new physical principles is a scientist.Нth. That is, fundamental and applied science should be developed at the global level.

      I really thought it was a typo. After all, it happens to everyone, and the Professor, after all, but ...
      Quote: professor
      Where does the scientist come from?Нum (today in the Russian Federation there is not a single living Nobel laureate), where do laboratories come from?

      Try teaching literacy on new physical principles, what if it helps? laughing laughing laughing
      Reasoning with such a clever air about such matters and with such errors only causes laughter, by God lol
      1. +6
        6 June 2021 11: 51
        Where do scientists come from (today in the Russian Federation there is not a single living Nobel laureate)
        Something "professor" is burning today :)) It has long been known that all Nobel laureates are exceptional (others are simply not worthy) Nobel has already turned over 100500 times in his grave, he would have known who is now being awarded his prize. And in those areas where such titles are conferred we are really weak, we cannot invent a "gay bomb" for the army, faith does not allow. :))
        But on the bill
        The main thing that is needed to create weapons based on new physical principles are scientists. That is, fundamental and applied science should be developed at the global level.
        suggests that the Jews' work, taken away from the USSR, is running out, so openness was required to the point. :)))
      2. -9
        6 June 2021 12: 18
        Quote: El Chuvachino
        I really thought it was a typo. After all, it happens to everyone, and the Professor, after all, but ...

        Speller writes so. Edit comments to me in scrap.
        You don't have to read my comments. hi
        1. 0
          8 June 2021 10: 58
          Quote: professor
          Speller writes so. Edit comments to me in scrap

          Viktor Fedorovich, you are our proFesor, log in under your name.
    4. +6
      6 June 2021 08: 55
      Quote: professor
      Accordingly, scientists should receive a lot, a lot.

      Are these scientists in Israel such patriots? Well, in the sense that a lot, a lot, a lot of money so far?
      Quote: professor
      In the meantime, "secrecy" conceals the lack of developments or their wretchedness.

      Where did you get this information if the developments are classified? Do you also have a degree in telepathy? Prof, may be enough of these emigrant mriyas? You seem to have left a long time ago, and the emigrant complex, as if you left only yesterday.
      1. -2
        6 June 2021 12: 23
        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
        Are these scientists in Israel such patriots? Well, in the sense that a lot, a lot, a lot of money so far?

        Everywhere scientists are "patriots". For the gift of work, you can only drive behind barbed wire. And if you want you to have world-class scientists, then pay them accordingly. Otherwise, they will move abroad. For example, as the Nobel laureates in physics Andrei Geim and Konstantin Novosyolov.

        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
        Where did you get this information if the developments are classified?

        From there.
        1. 0
          6 June 2021 12: 48
          Quote: professor
          Everywhere scientists are "patriots".

          However, they did not leave for Israel. Although you have serious scientific activities. That is, the money in Israel is a bit tough for scientists. But at the same time, I have not heard about the mass departure of scientists from you. That is, something is wrong with the logic of "many, many" money.
          Quote: professor
          From there.

          Iron argument. The question is closed.
          1. -4
            6 June 2021 13: 02
            Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
            However, they did not leave for Israel. Although you have serious scientific activities. That is, the money in Israel is a bit tough for scientists. But at the same time, I have not heard about the mass departure of scientists from you. That is, something is wrong with the logic of "many, many" money.

            Israel does not accept just anyone. Not an example will not accept a talented scientist from Japan. Moreover, our teaching is in Hebrew, which frightens off many scientists.
            Israel does not develop ALL areas of scientific activity due to limited human resources. Scientists wishing to study the influence of permafrost on the fertility of the Arctic fox are unlikely to find financial support from us.
            Where could you hear about the departure of scientists from us? Many Israeli scientists work in European and American laboratories. Recently, there are such in the Chinese. The Chinese are very generous in terms of fees and equipment.
            "A lot of money is the main driver.

            Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
            Iron argument. The question is closed.

            Uh-huh. Closed. The developments are secret, but the wreckage is not.
    5. +5
      6 June 2021 11: 25
      It is understandable, because Russia has pulled ahead in nuclear energy, hypersound, because it does not have such "scientists"
      1. -8
        6 June 2021 12: 24
        Quote: Prjanik
        It is understandable, because Russia has pulled ahead in nuclear energy, hypersound, because it does not have such "scientists"

        Has pulled ahead in advertising brochures about nuclear power and hypersound.
        1. +1
          6 June 2021 16: 41
          Has pulled ahead in advertising brochures about nuclear power and hypersound. Escaped in fact - it's like you are blind, well, rare guys that are already there.
    6. 0
      6 June 2021 12: 07
      Quote: professor
      Last but not least is the atmosphere of openness. There is no science without it. It is impossible to achieve a breakthrough without contacts in international scientific communities. Spy mania is a road to nowhere.

      Is everything so bad?
      1. -3
        6 June 2021 13: 08
        Quote: mark1
        Quote: professor
        Last but not least is the atmosphere of openness. There is no science without it. It is impossible to achieve a breakthrough without contacts in international scientific communities. Spy mania is a road to nowhere.

        Is everything so bad?

        Very bad. If earlier it was possible to organize a joint development with Russian scientists, today they scare off foreigners as if they were lepers. Result? There are even fewer publications by Russian scientists, even less access to cutting-edge laboratories and breakthrough projects. Today it is impossible to equip laboratories by ourselves.

        Look at the latest Nobel Prizes. Most of the projects there are joint. The Japanese with the Americans, the Dutch with the British, and so on. Alone, no way.
        1. 0
          6 June 2021 16: 43
          "There are even fewer publications by Russian scientists, even less access to cutting-edge laboratories and breakthrough projects." Name at least one breakthrough project abroad?
    7. +2
      6 June 2021 19: 18
      Quote: professor
      And only then it will be possible to say that weapons are being handed over based on new physical principles. Otherwise, where does it come from?


      Well, the world's best engines, armor, lasers were taken from somewhere in the USSR. Although the science of the USSR did not shine with openness and we have always had very few "Nobel laureates".
      As now, a hypersonic warhead has come from somewhere, which is confidently controlled, and therefore receives and transmits a signal. An underwater vehicle with a speed of 100 knots under water came from somewhere. The means of intercepting hypersonic vehicles came from somewhere. Fig knows where ... This is probably all unscientific - so it happened by chance - after all, there were no "Nobel laureates", and there are no ...
    8. 0
      7 June 2021 20: 07
      The best minds in the world are on the creation of weapons for the destruction of humanity, just like in the Hollywood movie-chipped professor, he comes up with how to kill more people.
  5. -3
    6 June 2021 07: 39
    Before the hyperboloid engineer Garin, who burned entire ships and factories, oh, how far away ... powerful power sources are needed ... if the energy of a nuclear explosion could be directed into a laser beam, this problem would probably be solved.
    And so the laser is good while in space where there is no fog, rain, hail, snow and other delights of precipitation of nature and climate.
  6. +11
    6 June 2021 08: 00
    I am jarred by the wording "new physical principles". Where are they new?
    New would be the favorite science fiction writers anti-gravity, zero-transition, superluminal speed and so on.
    Even annihilation is not a new physical principle for modern science, forbidden by existing theories. And ordinary lasers / masers and EMPs are commonplace. Is that for military affairs, their use is only now beginning to expand.
    As soon as a person says the phrase "on new physical principles", I understand that he has a bad school education ...
    1. +4
      6 June 2021 12: 43
      The whole phrase sounds like "WEAPON on new physical principles", and not "new physical principles".
      For physics, these "principles" are not new, of course, but for weapons this is an innovation. That is why they write this, the weapon is based on new (not previously used in relation to weapons or on which the weapon did not work) "physical principles"
  7. -9
    6 June 2021 08: 19
    I remember how a couple of years ago, the Defense Blog portal drew attention to the story of the Russia 24 TV channel about the use of laser systems in Russia. The author noticed that the footage showed the installation, in the body of which there are sewer and chimney pipes.

    In the recording, which is still available on the Vesti.ru website and on the Russia 24 YouTube channel, one of the pipes is an ordinary plastic pipe with a diameter of 100 or 110 millimeters with a rubber O-ring. The cost of such a pipe is about 200 rubles per linear meter.
    1. +4
      6 June 2021 09: 03
      And what does this mean, besides the fact that plastic pipes are used? For the experimental installation, it was necessary to have some kind of special scientific pipe for many, many shekels, otherwise it does not count? laughing
      1. -6
        6 June 2021 09: 35
        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
        And what does this mean, besides the fact that plastic pipes are used? For the experimental installation, it was necessary to have some kind of special scientific pipe for many, many shekels, otherwise it does not count? laughing

        A pack of greens is perfectly held by a regular pharmacy gum. You're right.
        And they were even too lazy to remove the rubber gasket from the sewer pipe of the "combat" laser.



        By the way, laser installations of significant power also have significant dimensions. The pictures show a clearly low-power unit.
        The pictures with "Peresvet" show a laser with a power of no more than 30-40 kW. Quite ordinary experiments in the simplest field conditions show that for some more or less significant results, lasers of at least 100 kW are needed, and better than 300. hi
        1. +5
          6 June 2021 09: 42
          And nevertheless, apart from your conjectures, you have nothing in fact. You may or may not be right. The likelihood of seeing a dinosaur on the streets of Haifa. laughing
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          2. -8
            6 June 2021 10: 09
            Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
            And nevertheless, apart from your conjectures, you have nothing in fact. You may or may not be right. The likelihood of seeing a dinosaur on the streets of Haifa. laughing

            What's true is true. Dinosaurs in Haifa are stressful.

            Russian weapons have a sacred meaning for citizens. The presence of the most modern and unparalleled weapons in the world instills in Russians a sense of national pride and self-confidence.
            You can't argue with the sacral. There is nothing you can do about it ...
            Yes ... "brain drain" has done business ...
            1. +3
              6 June 2021 10: 56
              Quote: A. Privalov
              You can't argue with the sacral. There is nothing you can do about it ...
              Yes ... "brain drain" has done business ...

              I'm probably the wrong Russian. And I don't see anything sacred in a nuclear missile. But I see a guarantee that as a result of any assistance in building democracy from our dear partners from unfriendly states, I will not live in the likeness of a democratic Iraq. Which is what I wish for you.
              1. -5
                6 June 2021 14: 16
                Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                Quote: A. Privalov
                You can't argue with the sacral. There is nothing you can do about it ...
                Yes ... "brain drain" has done business ...

                I'm probably the wrong Russian. And I don't see anything sacred in a nuclear missile. But I see a guarantee that as a result of any assistance in building democracy from our dear partners from unfriendly states, I will not live in the likeness of a democratic Iraq. Which is what I wish for you.

                Who is right there and who is wrong, sort it out among yourself and please, without me.

                As for Iraq, it’s not in vain that an elderly military commander in the Chelyabinsk region takes his fellow villagers out to dig anti-tank ditches on Fridays. hi
                1. -1
                  6 June 2021 14: 42
                  Quote: A. Privalov
                  Who is right there and who is wrong, sort it out among yourself and please, without me.

                  We will try. It will be very difficult without the help of fellow emigrants, but we will try our best.
                  Quote: A. Privalov
                  As for Iraq, it’s not in vain that an elderly military commander in the Chelyabinsk region takes his fellow villagers out to dig anti-tank ditches on Fridays.

                  Of course not in vain. Since we have the same capitalism all around and the victory of communism cannot be seen even on the horizon, then si vis pacem, para bellum.
                2. 0
                  7 June 2021 22: 28
                  It looks like the accounts of Israeli commentators (Privalov and Professor) were hijacked. They used to make smarter arguments. Sadness ....
        2. +1
          6 June 2021 12: 46
          Quote: A. Privalov
          The pictures with "Peresvet" show a laser with a power of no more than 30-40 kW. Quite ordinary experiments in the simplest field conditions show that for some more or less significant results, lasers of at least 100 kW are needed, and better than 300.

          Share, if not a secret (and for you, apparently, not a secret) all the data. Especially in terms of energy release in active mode. Your data is very interesting.
        3. +2
          6 June 2021 13: 23
          And they were even too lazy to remove the rubber gasket from the sewer pipe of the "combat" laser.
          He will shoot the worst. laughing
        4. +1
          6 June 2021 13: 25
          In general, it will be possible to talk about normal combat lasers when the power reaches MEGAWAT, or even hundreds of MEGAWAT, but for now this is just a zilch ...
      2. 0
        6 June 2021 18: 17
        So this is a signal for our enemies! That we can even make weapons from a sewer pipe.
  8. Owl
    -9
    6 June 2021 08: 20
    New weapons (laser, EM radiation) "working" at the tactical and operational-tactical level will possibly be used in the framework of experimental military operation in some kind of conflict. Nobody will use the ONFP's global weapon: the "supreme" will not sink his yachts, destroy the "nedvizhku" of his relatives and his "friends-oligarchs", as well as destroy the financial institutions of the "probable ally", where the entire ruling "Russian elite" keeps your savings.
    1. +2
      6 June 2021 12: 49
      Then what is the point of imposing sanctions on us if “we” (that is, the ruling elite) are so obedient and compliant and “will not sink our yachts”?
      By the way, as recently as yesterday, it was announced that the NWF completely abandoned the dollar. Is it from the same area?
      1. Owl
        -3
        6 June 2021 16: 12
        The war between developed countries has long been waged in economic ways. There is no need to kill thousands of enemy soldiers by sacrificing thousands of their subjects, it is cheaper to bribe one "general". The sanctions of the "probable ally" are aimed at finishing off sufficiently developed sectors of the Russian economy and at replacing the current leadership of the country with a more manageable one. As for the abandonment of the dollar in the NWF, the NWF is a Russian state reserve fund, it is part of the mechanism for providing pensions to citizens of the Russian Federation for the long term, and what are the dollars in this fund for? When all the "friends" (Sechin and K) give up dollars and euros in favor of the Russian ruble, then this will be an achievement. And what you are writing about is a pre-election "zamanuha".
  9. -1
    6 June 2021 11: 42
    EMP-theme with explosive magnetic generators is a very costly topic, because expensive and high-tech devices, and their real combat capability is very relative. It turns out a kind of golden bullet with a fairly modest radius. They have been digging in this direction for a long time, it seems that even the Americans used similar devices in Iraq, but the result was sour ..
    Microwave emitters are most likely a dead end, because efficiency is VERY highly dependent on the state of the environment, the distance is scanty by military standards, the emitters are bulky and all this splendor eats a lot of energy. To combat UAVs, LO is much better suited due to the greater distance.
    In principle, of all this modern-innovative topics, I most of all believe in the developments in lasers, because this may also cause third-party exhaust in a bunch of other, non-military areas.
    1. 0
      6 June 2021 16: 51
      Beam weapons for space are also interesting.
      1. 0
        6 June 2021 17: 07
        I think they will not trumpet about it. We really would not like the militarization of near-earth space - economically and technologically for us, this hemorrhoid would simply be of the highest standard. Most likely they are developing something, quietly, they may even have experienced it.
  10. 0
    6 June 2021 15: 59
    I wonder if there is any justification for what the new physical principles are? Maybe it's still new algorithms for stages of processes organized differently from modern algorithms. Someone generally understands that before talking about novelty it is worth talking about the possibilities of mathematical substantiation of these processes. You cannot immediately take up an engineering solution without understanding the fundamentals of theoretical justification.
  11. 0
    6 June 2021 16: 48
    Quote: Vadim237
    "There are even fewer publications by Russian scientists, even less access to cutting-edge laboratories and breakthrough projects." Name at least one breakthrough project abroad?

    By the way, I haven't watched the Nobel Prizes for a long time, it's been a year. But honestly, your message is wrong.
    There are enough projects, and the Russians themselves restrict access to them.
  12. 0
    6 June 2021 17: 44
    It's good...
  13. +3
    6 June 2021 19: 05
    Quote: professor
    The main thing that is needed to create weapons based on new physical principles are scientists. That is, fundamental and applied science should be developed at the global level. Competition in universities for the relevant specialties must be high so that the best take these places. Accordingly, scientists should receive a lot, a lot. The material and technical base should be the best in the world, well, or no worse than ... And only then it will be possible to say that weapons are being handed over based on new physical principles. Otherwise, where does it come from? Where do scientists come from (today there is not a single living Nobel laureate in Russia), where do laboratories come from?


    It is not clear what to argue with here. What do scientists need for fundamental and applied science? What material base is needed appropriate?

    I would only argue about a competition for leading technical universities; it is still quite high. And this is something to be surprised at; why? - an example from life: I am taking my son to the next round of the first level Olympiad in mathematics, this time in St. Petersburg. The building was barely found among some wastelands, it is in disrepair. Plasterer from the walls, etc. The son is shocked. But, in fact, some of the smartest people in the country in their age category were brought there. Here they are - brains, here it is - the future of the country, here it is - the future weapon of the ONFP. Do you think they will think about where to work - in Russia or abroad? What attitude towards themselves from the state and society did they feel? The son was shocked. Me too, albeit adjusted for life experience. Stalin would probably have just shot the rector of the university for such a thing. I am not a Stalinist, but I don’t know what other measures will help. Some kind of ownerlessness. Although, perhaps, it is necessary to compare in dynamics: where they brought them 10 years ago and where they will bring them in another 10 years. Maybe it's getting better gradually ...

    What did Peskov say about the departure of scientists? But in China, I think, they purposefully fought this phenomenon, and they started to succeed. It is impossible to solve a problem that does NOT exist. I would like to hope that our people are also fighting, but they are trying not to create panic. I want to believe...

    Shapkozakidiya and underestimation of the enemy systematically leads to severe sacrifices, and Russia has passed many such lessons in its history. Why repeat them in practice? Or are they still poorly learned, because we have a bird's memory? "We can repeat" - this is written by someone who spent his childhood without a grandfather left in the war? Or with a disabled grandfather who returned from her? No, this is written by those who have not heard or seen from every Soviet iron "This should not happen again."

    PS Are we unhappy that other people's special services are working secretly, because ours have forgotten how to work like that? Or is it because we are children in politics? Which is worse, the first or the second? The second is, after all, a hundred times more difficult to fix.
  14. 0
    7 June 2021 01: 01
    Isn't it easier to just simulate the complete absorption of the signal of the attacking source by sending an appropriate response?
    1. +2
      7 June 2021 08: 56
      you forget that the signal can walk in the frequency band. in one frequency, suppress it, and in the neighboring ones it will be visible. It was possible to develop a device Reflectometer Radio impulse RIR-2 and RIR-3 in 1983-86. The task was to measure automatically and simply the reflections from the coating layer absorbing the radar signals. Well, the submarine cabin and etc. As information, they were given to read secret articles about the incident near the Falklen Islands. There, unpretentious Argentine planes with simple missiles seriously kicked off the Britons. Therefore, indirectly, in the theme-walrus, absorb the standard signal, but only in a narrow band. And if a pulse from a generator such as spark diodes is pulsed in a wide one, then the object will be found nearby in the strip. At that time, this direction was restrained by the fact that in a wide band the radiation power required large ones, in a narrow one it was easier.
  15. 0
    7 June 2021 01: 38
    to be honest, everything we know is not very impressive. It can be seen only the embryos of the direction ... such as an armored truck in the direction of tanks. It is certainly good that the work is underway and that we do not know yet.
    1. 0
      19 September 2023 19: 51
      Time will hatch them and grow them. (W. Shakespeare.)
  16. 0
    7 June 2021 08: 51
    the final will be the installation of light weapons on spacecraft. We will have trucks, we have heavy rockets. It is most likely impossible to completely lighten the devices without losing the parameters (range and power), except perhaps for small-sized powerful nuclear installations).
    who is the first to ride space will spit from above.
  17. 0
    7 June 2021 11: 03
    The main thing is to stop betrayal, the drain of technology to the Anglo-Saxons. Otherwise, the breakthrough will fail!
    1. 0
      7 June 2021 11: 34
      I'm embarrassed to ask, how is it? to develop something there on new physical principles, but at the same time staying within the framework of old physical laws. By the way, the principle and the law are words that are close in meaning - synonyms.
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  19. 0
    7 June 2021 15: 14
    So ... but actually, where are these very NEW physical prYntsyps, all of the above has already managed to grow with moss. Yes, new versions, on a more advanced basis, but nothing new.
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  21. 0
    11 June 2021 19: 48
    Laser, laser - what is it? Hyperboloid or just a flashlight that blinds. Something is not clear
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