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Russia will start building the Pakistan Stream gas pipeline

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Russia will start building the Pakistan Stream gas pipeline

Today it became known that Russia and Pakistan signed an agreement on the construction of a gas pipeline that will connect the largest cities of the Asian country - Karachi and Lahore. This gas pipeline was named "Pakistani Stream".


Against the backdrop of statements by US Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm that "Russian gas that will flow through Nord Stream 2 is the dirtiest in the world," the Russian-Pakistani agreement can be considered a new unpleasant surprise for the United States.

The Ministry of Energy of the Russian Federation informs about the meeting of the head of the department Nikolai Shulginov with the Pakistani ambassador to Moscow Shafkat Ali-Khan. The officials signed an agreement that grants Russia the right to build a gas pipeline with a total length of about 1,1 thousand kilometers.

The throughput capacity of the Pakistani Stream is impressive: almost 12,5 billion cubic meters of gas per year. The pipeline will connect Pakistan's largest liquefied natural gas terminals. And this is only the first part of a potentially possible larger project for Russian-Pakistani cooperation in the gas sector. Earlier it was reported that Pakistan may start purchasing LNG from Russia. The logistics of this kind of supply is being worked out.

The Ministry of Energy of the Russian Federation disseminates information that the new gas pipeline will allow transporting raw materials to industrial facilities in the north of Pakistan in Punjab. There are also some Pakistani power plants in need of available hydrocarbons.

Nikolai Shulginov called the construction of the Pakistan Stream a flagship project of cooperation between Moscow and Islamabad in the energy sector.
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  1. seregin-s1
    seregin-s1 28 May 2021 17: 20
    +27
    The main thing is that the pipes are manufactured at our enterprises!
    1. RealPilot
      RealPilot 28 May 2021 17: 34
      +30
      At the same time, I emphasize, we are not talking about Russian pipeline gas. And the point is in the transfer of LNG inland, which just does not contradict the theses about the diversification of gas supplies - after all, LNG is freely delivered by tankers on a competitive basis. Russia, Qatar, USA ... Everyone will be able to supply and participate.

      Therefore, the argumentation applicable to the SP-2 does not work for the "partners" here.
      But they are against the energy cooperation of third countries with Russia in principle, so let's look at the reaction and hear about new reasons for the sanctions ...
      1. seregin-s1
        seregin-s1 28 May 2021 17: 50
        +9
        I don’t argue! Implement a project with the maximum participation of Russia.
        1. Brturin
          Brturin 28 May 2021 19: 43
          +15
          They were bargaining there for several years before starting - Russia will receive at least 26% of the Pakistan Stream Gas Pipeline (PSGP, ex. North-South) in the project for the construction of the main gas pipeline (MGP) ... Russia will be represented in the project by a consortium of Russian investors, which will include the Eurasian Pipeline Consortium (ETK) and the Pipe Metallurgical Company (TMK) ... the project will be implemented through a special purpose company, which will be registered in Pakistan and will be controlled by the country's authorities. Thus, Pakistan will be able to strengthen the degree of its control over the constructed gas pipeline; in return, Russia was given the green light to supply materials, equipment and resources; pipe diameter for IHP Pakistani flow increased from 42 "to 52" or 56 "; this will increase the throughput capacity from 12,4 to 16,5 bcm / year. https://neftegaz.ru/news/transport-and-storage/3-kak-i-planirovalos-rossiya-poluchit-ne-menee-672179-v-proekte-stroitelstva-mgp-pakistanskiy-potok/
          1. Bad_gr
            Bad_gr 29 May 2021 15: 43
            +1
            Quote: RealPilot
            the essence of the transfer of LNG inland

            Depicted in blue.
        2. Cutter
          Cutter 29 May 2021 02: 50
          0
          [i] [can be considered a new unpleasant surprise for the US.
          / i] Need more surprises? Or is it enough?
      2. Alex777
        Alex777 28 May 2021 18: 14
        +4
        I emphasize that we are not talking about Russian pipeline gas ...
        which just does not contradict the theses on the diversification of gas supplies ...

        The states' crazy ideas about the EU's energy security have nothing to do with Pakistan. IMHO,
        And since they were given to build ours, then where the pipe will reach later - we will have to look.
        At one time, the United States climbed into Afghanistan with the mriya to lay pipelines from Central Asia to the Indian Ocean. It didn't work out ...
        And Pakistan is very friendly with the Taliban. hi
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 28 May 2021 18: 57
          +4
          Quote: Alex777
          The states' crazy ideas about the EU's energy security have nothing to do with Pakistan.

          Well, if the United States and Europe blame Russia for the fact that the ice in the Arctic is beginning to melt, then don't go to the goat to accuse Russia.
      3. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 28 May 2021 18: 53
        +2
        Quote: RealPilot
        so let's look at the reaction and hear about the new reasons for the sanctions ...

        The reaction will be the same - "Russia is encroaching on the energy security of the United States and Europe" (and Ukraine). And also "the whole civil world condemns the aggressor."
      4. venik
        venik 28 May 2021 19: 53
        +2
        Quote: RealPilot
        so let's look at the reaction and hear about the new reasons for the sanctions ...

        ======
        "They" - for "sanctions" - "reasons" - do not need! For them, the "object" is enough.
        Okay: "we'll see - we'll see!" .... Who - whom more "sanctions" will slap !!!
        And then the "stars and stripes" got crazy ... am
      5. Yves762
        Yves762 28 May 2021 23: 01
        -1
        Quote: RealPilot
        after all, LNG is freely delivered by tankers on a competitive basis. Russia, Qatar, USA ... Everyone will be able to supply and participate.
        - what Yeah, that's just the shoulder of the delivery from Qatar is much better, purely in terms of distance, than from the Far East.
        At a construction site, who needs a small gesheft, of course, but then what?
        Will Pakistan be more willing to accept Qatari gas with the built infrastructure?
        Hee-and-it plan however ... wassat
        Maybe it was worthwhile to legally formalize some thread of preferences for "Russian gas", no? (If already, then at least throw a link repeat )
        And in general, what does "Russian gas" care about the problems of competitors (here the USA, Qatar)? If only by mutual agreement .... within the framework of joint work on the development of the global market .... and other nonsense, then more or less.
        And so some kind of not healthy altruism to not sickly competitors. request
        1. Zhenya Khazarsky
          Zhenya Khazarsky 29 May 2021 17: 39
          0
          Hello!
          In terms of LNG, there is an interesting agreement with Qatar on gas substitution. Those. if the Qataris need to supply gas to Sweden, then it will be supplied from the Novatekovsky capacities in Yamal. And vice versa, if Novatek needs to supply gas to the conditional Somalia, then it will be shipped from the port of Qatar.
    2. Asad
      Asad 28 May 2021 17: 34
      +11
      It is strange that the Chinese did not press this contract.
      1. Machito
        Machito 28 May 2021 18: 30
        0
        Your business is the pipe. laughing
      2. Vadim237
        Vadim237 28 May 2021 18: 33
        +4
        For the Chinese, we will design the Power of Siberia 2 until 2030.
    3. Finches
      Finches 28 May 2021 17: 46
      +12
      Has Zelensky already imposed sanctions against Islamabad? laughing
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 28 May 2021 18: 58
        +2
        Quote: Finches
        Has Zelensky already imposed sanctions against Islamabad?

        They say they have already urgently gathered Radu for a meeting.
    4. BecmepH
      BecmepH 28 May 2021 17: 54
      -6
      Quote: seregin-s1
      The main thing is that the pipes are manufactured at our enterprises!

      The main thing is that, apparently, our government is trying to get rid of natural resources as soon as possible (((
      "After us, even a flood." And what will the descendants have?
      1. seregin-s1
        seregin-s1 28 May 2021 18: 01
        +3
        Hydrogen fuel.
        1. BecmepH
          BecmepH 28 May 2021 18: 05
          +2
          Quote: seregin-s1
          Hydrogen fuel.

          Are you an optimist)) Is it already being produced on an industrial scale?
          1. seregin-s1
            seregin-s1 28 May 2021 18: 11
            +3
            The world's largest plant is being built near St. Petersburg.
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 28 May 2021 22: 05
              +1
              When will it be built and what is the exhaust? In terms of profit?
      2. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter 28 May 2021 18: 13
        +8
        Quote: BecmepH
        The main thing is that, apparently, our government is trying to get rid of natural resources as soon as possible (((

        Liquefied gas from Karachi to Lahore. Naturally, already regasified. What resources are you talking about? Rather, about whom? There, rather, Qatar ... wassat
      3. knn54
        knn54 28 May 2021 18: 34
        -1
        It's time to change the "Bear" symbol to "Pipe".
        1. skif8013
          skif8013 29 May 2021 06: 19
          0
          Quote: knn54
          It's time to change the "Bear" symbol to "Pipe".

          And that Russia once traded in bears?
      4. carstorm 11
        carstorm 11 28 May 2021 19: 41
        +3
        They are building a PIPELINE. Instead of selling RESOURCES !!! Are you so intoxicated or can't you read?
        1. BecmepH
          BecmepH 28 May 2021 20: 01
          -11%
          Quote: carstorm 11
          They are building a PIPELINE. Instead of selling RESOURCES !!! Are you so intoxicated or can't you read?

          In my opinion, you are crazy. And why is the pipeline being built?)) Or is it not enough to think out?
          1. carstorm 11
            carstorm 11 28 May 2021 20: 02
            +1
            Read the text huh?) Well. Carefully. Thoughtfully))) and not the title and forward the comments to scribble
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 28 May 2021 22: 12
              -10%
              Quote: carstorm 11
              Read the text huh?)

              Maybe it's enough to build pipes from the right to the left? Isn't it time to really start gasification inside the country? Or are external consumers more important to YOUR government? wink
              PS Have you ever thought about karma? After all, if the parents are traitors to their people, this will in any way affect the future of the Family.
              Or are 30 pieces of silver that are more expensive for you at the moment?
              1. Usher
                Usher 28 May 2021 22: 36
                0
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                Quote: carstorm 11
                Read the text huh?)

                Maybe it's enough to build pipes from the right to the left? Isn't it time to really start gasification inside the country? Or are external consumers more important to YOUR government? wink
                PS Have you ever thought about karma? After all, if the parents are traitors to their people, this will in any way affect the future of the Family.
                Or are 30 pieces of silver that are more expensive for you at the moment?

                radnover?
              2. carstorm 11
                carstorm 11 28 May 2021 22: 56
                -3
                And they are put inside the country. The same Power of Siberia that the first that the second will bring gasification to hundreds of homes.
                1. Ingvar 72
                  Ingvar 72 29 May 2021 06: 40
                  0
                  When? When will we go under the Chinese protectorate?
                  1. carstorm 11
                    carstorm 11 29 May 2021 10: 39
                    -4
                    This is already underway) everything is publicly available. What do we go under?))))
                    1. Ingvar 72
                      Ingvar 72 29 May 2021 13: 47
                      0
                      Weakly voice the timing? Or will you limit yourself to Putin's tales? How much to wait?
                      In addition, how do you personally feel about criminal liability for missed deadlines? wink And to the introduction of responsibility for the inconsistency of actions with the pre-election promises of civil servants and people's deputies?
                      1. carstorm 11
                        carstorm 11 29 May 2021 15: 38
                        -5
                        The timing of what? Gasification? Do you have any idea how long it takes and how much it costs?) I am not going to discuss the rest. What I think is my business.
                      2. Ingvar 72
                        Ingvar 72 29 May 2021 20: 49
                        0
                        Quote: carstorm 11
                        What I think is my business.

                        I asked you specific questions, and you are in the bushes. This is your whole point. negative
                      3. carstorm 11
                        carstorm 11 30 May 2021 00: 53
                        -4
                        Yes. This is my essence and I do not hide it. I do not enter into any conversations about politics or the judicial system there. I'm only talking about dry facts.
  2. Putnik119
    Putnik119 29 May 2021 07: 08
    -1
    You worry about your descendants. Bequeath him a strawberry patch in Poland.
  • Piramidon
    Piramidon 28 May 2021 18: 00
    -1
    Quote: seregin-s1
    The main thing is that the pipes are manufactured at our enterprises!

    And so that branches to Russian cities and towns from this pipe are made. I'm not talking about villages with three courtyards, about which many "democrats" sob here, but settlements with 10-20 thousand inhabitants and more need to be gasified.
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 28 May 2021 18: 27
      -1
      Quote: Piramidon
      And so that branches to Russian cities and towns from this pipe are made

      Someone can be seen against, crammed cons! laughing
      But seriously, we have already got these streams for the sale of resources, at a time when half of the population is without gas.
      1. laicon
        laicon 28 May 2021 18: 37
        +5
        have you read the news? it talks about the construction of a pipe within the country
      2. Cron
        Cron 28 May 2021 18: 58
        +3
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        But seriously, we have already got these streams for the sale of resources.

        Built within Pakistan. No flow from Russia is being pulled anywhere.
        , while half of the population is without gas.

        The gasification rate is 71%. That's a little more than half. by the 30th it is planned to 82,9
        This is under the USSR, in the RSFSR, more than half of the population was without gas. Gasification was 40%.
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 28 May 2021 19: 38
          -2
          Quote: Cron
          The gasification rate is 71%.

          Do you know what gasification is according to reports? This is the supply of the pipe to the settlement, after which it is considered to be gasified on paper. In fact, it is several times less, if you count in the courtyards.
          1. Cron
            Cron 28 May 2021 20: 13
            -1
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            Do you know what gasification is according to reports? This is the supply of the pipe to the settlement, after which it is considered to be gasified on paper. In fact, it is several times less, if you count in the courtyards.

            Well, you tell me, do not hesitate. A pipe is a pipe, where there is a pipe, people will have gas there.
            Much better, apparently, they thought earlier, when they brought a bottle of liquefied gas to a conventional village and announced gasification. But then you yourself suffer. In some former Soviet republics, this is still believed.
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 28 May 2021 21: 25
              +2
              Quote: Cron
              A pipe is a pipe, where there is a pipe, people will have gas there.

              Oh, these tales, oh, these storytellers! laughing
              PGT Mezhdurechensk, gasified during the Soviet era. In fact, less than half of the population has gas. Almost the entire private sector is without gas. Gas has been promised to my mother for over 15 years. It is expensive and problematic to connect gas in Podstepki, Lunacharsky, Yagodnoye (a village near Togliatti).
              But to China without any problems. negative
              1. Cron
                Cron 28 May 2021 22: 48
                0
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                Oh, these tales, oh, these storytellers!

                And what are the actual fairy tales? About how the statues were twisted in the Union too?
                PGT Mezhdurechensk, gasified during the Soviet era.

                Well, under the USSR, a lot of things were gasified, then what?
                In fact, less than half of the population has gas. Almost the entire private sector is without gas.

                Well? Someone owes you something or what? We seem to live in a different country now, the Union no longer exists. And Gazprom is more involved in charity work, when it pulls gas into unprofitable projects, rather than trying to make money.
                Then I think the USSR rushed first of all to gasify its citizens, and did not drive gas to Europe, along the way zababahav GTS in Ukraine. The RSFSR was begging for crumbs from the table, although the gas was ours. Why then did the Union not provide its population in the first place, but sent gas to Europe? Have you been whining about this? Or your parents? And our republics were provided with gas much better than we. Apparently, this is such a concern for the people? Why are you whining then?
                Gas has been promised to my mother for over 15 years.

                Well, they promise, it's already good, so wait. What is the problem? Why should anyone do charity work? Why, let's say, as a shareholder, should I care about your gasification, and not my own dividends?
                I did not ruin the Union. I did not go out to the square to graze and did not shout down with the Communist Party of the Soviet Union. And then it means give the market, and what freedoms there are, and leave all the free buns. And the mug will not crack?
                Well, I ask how, under the Union, well, which all the people and not an ounce of adversary, the RSFSR was so poorly supplied with gas? How long did the USSR exist there? And only 40%? Caring for the people, not otherwise. On the GTS, they borrowed money in the West, yeah, a pipe would be brought to every Lunacharsk, whatever it is, to every house. And I am telling these tales?

                And for some reason they drove mainly to the place where it is most profitable - to the cities. Cities were supplied with gas by 50%, and villages only by 12%. Now there are 70 cities, 60 villages.
                Don't you think if they hadn't driven gas to Europe now everyone had gas in their house? Are we still hitting reality? Where you need to earn money on the side so that you have something to provide for your own citizens, and de and the first percentages of gasification are given much cheaper than the subsequent ones. When, for example, having gasified by 70%, the remaining 30% are several times more expensive. I hope you don’t need to explain why?
                It is expensive and problematic to connect gas in Podstepki, Lunacharskoye, Yagodnoye (a village near Togliatti).
                But to China without any problems.

                Well, yes, it's expensive and problematic. What's wrong here? Do you want to argue the obvious, compare volumes and ROI? And when a pipe is being pulled to China, isn’t they simultaneously gasify a large number of our settlements where there has never been any gas at all?
                And gasification in Russia is not the same as in the conditional Holland, or France, the scale seems to be slightly different. In Moscow and the Moscow region there is generally almost a hundred square meters.
      3. Piramidon
        Piramidon 28 May 2021 18: 59
        -5
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        Someone can be seen against, crammed cons!

        These, apparently, are those supposedly villagers who here on snot come from the fact that in Moscow they still cook cabbage soup from nettles and hedgehogs on a wood stove on a wood stove. laughing
        In addition to quiet cons and snot from them, no arguments are received in response.
      4. carstorm 11
        carstorm 11 28 May 2021 19: 44
        0
        Are you really kidding?))) They are a pipeline)))) from one terminal to another))))) damn I'm lying with comments. LNG can be anyone's there. Do you understand LNG?))) Product. And not necessarily ours. For whom do you know tankers?) Processing plants and chemical plants?)))
      5. lis-ik
        lis-ik 28 May 2021 20: 04
        -2
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        But seriously, we have already got these streams

        These are cash flows, which means, by definition, they cannot get it.
    2. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 28 May 2021 19: 41
      -2
      From Pakistan?)))))))))
  • Anachoret
    Anachoret 28 May 2021 18: 18
    -1
    Quote: seregin-s1
    The main thing is that the pipes are manufactured at our enterprises!

    to the maximum, the equipment should be Russian and it is desirable to enter the project with a share in order to influence the choice of suppliers of the LNG itself in the future)
  • Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 28 May 2021 18: 39
    0
    Quote: seregin-s1
    The main thing is that the pipes are manufactured at our enterprises!

    the main thing is that the residents of Russia have gas in every house
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 28 May 2021 19: 01
      0
      Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
      the main thing is that the residents of Russia have gas in every house

      This is how the people think, but the capitalist thinks differently (the founder wrote about it).
    2. Piramidon
      Piramidon 28 May 2021 19: 12
      +1
      Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
      the main thing is that the residents of Russia have gas in every house

      The main thing is not to sit on the priest straight and wait for the gas to be brought into your house. In our village we got sick of the regional authorities and made sure that our village with a population of 6 thousand people had a pipe from a gas pipeline running 15 km away. Now all the houses and the local boiler house are supplied with gas. And from the fact that it is simple to be indignant at VO and this "plus signs" will not collect any sense.
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 28 May 2021 19: 21
        -1
        dear, before you write, you will study the topic, firstly, not all villages have 6 thousand souls, and secondly, not all have a 15 km highway
        Quote: Piramidon
        And from the fact that it is simple to be indignant at VO and this "plus signs" will not collect any sense.

        believe me how to achieve I know better than yours
        1. Piramidon
          Piramidon 28 May 2021 19: 43
          0
          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
          dear, before you write, you will study the topic, firstly, not all villages have 6 thousand souls, and secondly, not all have a 15 km highway

          And in a village of 5 yards and 20 residents, no one will pull a pipe for you, even if the gas pipeline passes along the outskirts.
          believe me how to achieve I know better than yours

          Why didn't you get it?
          1. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 28 May 2021 21: 47
            -1
            Quote: Piramidon
            And in a village of 5 yards and 20 residents, no one will pull a pipe for you, even if the gas pipeline passes along the outskirts.
            deeply mistaken
            learn the math part, they will be by the way, in 2 years
            Quote: Piramidon
            Why didn't you get it?

            what he achieved achieved in full
  • Babermetis
    Babermetis 28 May 2021 19: 25
    0
    Quote: seregin-s1
    The main thing is that the pipes are manufactured at our enterprises!

    Most likely, the Iranian industry will join. Well, good luck to all participants!
  • Clear
    Clear 28 May 2021 20: 23
    +3
    It turns out that the countries signed this intergovernmental agreement on the construction of the North-South gas pipeline back in 2015.
    Its length will be 1,1 thousand km, and its throughput capacity will be up to 12,4 billion cubic meters. m per year.
  • Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 29 May 2021 07: 16
    0
    There, besides pipes, there are also pumping stations.
  • NF68
    NF68 28 May 2021 17: 20
    +1
    Again, this will hinder the United States and its hangers-on.
  • ximkim
    ximkim 28 May 2021 17: 25
    +1
    Hmm ...
    A sore head will not give rest to the legs.
  • Herman 4223
    Herman 4223 28 May 2021 17: 25
    -20%
    Where will the pipes go? Through Avganistan? Or China?
    1. Volodin
      Volodin 28 May 2021 17: 53
      +22
      Quote: Herman 4223
      Where will the pipes go? Through Avganistan? Or China?

      This is what happens if you comment immediately after reading the title. laughing
      1. Herman 4223
        Herman 4223 28 May 2021 18: 02
        +1
        Oh well caught, rent good
      2. carstorm 11
        carstorm 11 28 May 2021 19: 51
        0
        I'm already tired of the comments))) 90 percent don't even try to read the text)))))
        1. Clear
          Clear 28 May 2021 20: 26
          +4
          Quote: carstorm 11
          I'm already tired of the comments))) 90 percent don't even try to read the text)))))

          lol Moreover, even after explanations do not stop No.
          1. carstorm 11
            carstorm 11 28 May 2021 20: 30
            +2
            Yes, they argue with each other) Circus)))))))
            1. Clear
              Clear 28 May 2021 20: 34
              +2
              Quote: carstorm 11
              Yes, they argue with each other) Circus)))))))

              Poor "contract for the construction of a gas pipeline" crying
  • Thrifty
    Thrifty 28 May 2021 17: 26
    0
    And from him a branch will be thrown into India so that they do not bomb the pipe from the neighbors? ??
    1. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 28 May 2021 19: 00
      0
      Quote: Thrifty
      А a branch will be thrown from him to India, so that those neighbors do not bomb the pipe? ??
      I don’t know how from him, but the topic of the pipeline to India is being discussed, as well as to Mongolia. yes
    2. Brturin
      Brturin 28 May 2021 22: 36
      0
      Quote: Thrifty
      And from him a branch will be thrown to India

      Rather then to China. The Chinese have already asked the Pakistani government about the possibility of making an offshoot to themselves, though from TAPI (Turkmenistan), but ...
  • Prax1
    Prax1 28 May 2021 17: 28
    -37%
    As unprofitable as the "power of siberia"? Gas is sold for $ 100
    1. Volodin
      Volodin 28 May 2021 17: 51
      +15
      Quote: Prax1
      As unprofitable as the "power of siberia"? Gas is sold for $ 100

      No, they give it away for nothing, if only you have a reason for comment))
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 28 May 2021 18: 29
        -1
        Quote: Volodin
        No, they give it away for nothing,

        Is it a secret for you that the Power of Siberia will be profitable only in 30 years? And this despite the fact that the pumping will be according to the declared volumes, and not underestimated, as it is now?
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 28 May 2021 18: 40
          +2
          And it's probably a secret for you that the entire Power of Siberia project will pay off by producing Helium alone for 10 years at the Amur GPP
          1. vadsonen
            vadsonen 28 May 2021 20: 24
            -7
            Isn't it a secret for a putenoid? How does he know? Gazprom did not disclose the price of either the pipeline or the fields. There is only an estimate of the payback (read earlier cancer on the mountain kicks).
          2. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 28 May 2021 21: 59
            -2
            Quote: Vadim237
            the Power of Siberia project will pay off by producing Helium alone for 10 years at the Amur GPP

            Are you lying or corny not in the subject, Vadik. You don't know numbers at all.
            In addition, again cite as an achievement the creation of enterprises that accelerate the sale of resources, and not the creation of a truly import-independent industry.
        2. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 28 May 2021 19: 48
          -3
          Firstly, you cannot know this by definition))) The Chinese side has closed all deals on it and will not open it. They always do that. Secondly, you would at least look at the projects themselves at least once and what is being built. Factories there, gasification?) Try it. Broadens the mind. In Primorye, in Amurka. How many jobs there will be, how many enterprises))) Also count the profit from them)))
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 28 May 2021 19: 02
        +2
        Quote: Volodin
        No, they give it away for nothing, if only you have a reason for comment

        Yes, he does not catch up with what and how, if only not like everyone else.
      3. sniperino
        sniperino 29 May 2021 11: 12
        0
        Quote: Volodin
        if only you had a reason to comment))
        If you react not to text, but to keywords, then there are many more reasons. Piecework costs.
  • isv000
    isv000 28 May 2021 17: 28
    -1
    It would be nice if they hadn't. And then we will build and - adyuos, amigo! The people there are interesting, with Indian roots, and those in this regard are wriggling like a snake ... sad
    1. Alex777
      Alex777 28 May 2021 18: 21
      +1
      They need engines for fighters. So don't be thrown. Interdependence. wink
    2. Clear
      Clear 28 May 2021 20: 29
      +3
      Quote: isv000
      It would be nice if they hadn't. And then we will build and - adyuos, amigo! The people there are interesting, with Indian roots, and those in this regard are wriggling like a snake ... sad

      And what is the kidok? The pipe is only with them, in Pakistan.
      1. isv000
        isv000 28 May 2021 22: 30
        +1
        In operation, and receiving attendants for this ... sad
        1. Clear
          Clear 29 May 2021 13: 00
          +2
          Quote: isv000
          In operation, and receiving attendants for this ... sad

          It would be nice to do maintenance.
  • Sands Careers General
    Sands Careers General 28 May 2021 17: 31
    -9
    Hmm, an interesting question, and through whom will they build?
    1. Clear
      Clear 28 May 2021 20: 30
      +5
      Quote: Sands Career General
      Hmm, an interesting question, and through whom will they build?

      You won't believe No. Straight through Pakistani mother land. From start to finish! drinks
  • Evil 55
    Evil 55 28 May 2021 17: 32
    +1
    Soft Power - Power Wise ...
  • pexotinec
    pexotinec 28 May 2021 17: 33
    0
    Let's step on someone's tail again. And rightly so, it is necessary to work with those who want it and do not look back.
  • 72jora72
    72jora72 28 May 2021 17: 36
    +13
    Commentators: You open the globe of Pakistan and see. In general, the project involves connecting two cities (gas storage facilities) within the country ...
  • Warhead-xnumx
    Warhead-xnumx 28 May 2021 17: 40
    0
    I wish Gazprom would build a gas pipeline to my house. I would say thank you to him. And so only "Alas and ah ..." And of course, joy for our Pakistani comrades, who will be with gas. And, of course, for those who will build (God bless these respected people-friends) - they will not be left in the loser either.
    1. Cron
      Cron 28 May 2021 18: 59
      +1
      I wish Gazprom would build a gas pipeline to my house. I would say thank you to him.

      Pay, the pipe will reach you anywhere in the world
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 28 May 2021 19: 05
      0
      Quote: CU-5
      I wish Gazprom would build a gas pipeline to my house.

      Well what can I say to you, I can only sympathize, and Gazprom will answer "Any whim for your money."
  • Laksamana besar
    Laksamana besar 28 May 2021 17: 50
    +2
    Well, it's okay, gas from Yamal will be transported by tankers to Pakistan.
  • Warhead-xnumx
    Warhead-xnumx 28 May 2021 17: 58
    -10%
    Seriously, when will there be news that the construction of "Podmoskovniy Potok" has begun? Or is there "Kostroma" or "Lipetsk"? Are we worse than Pakistanis?
    1. Rubi0
      Rubi0 28 May 2021 18: 27
      +1
      Well, the current was news https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.tvzvezda.ru/news/2021531336-lpt7o.html/amp/ these goals
  • Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 28 May 2021 18: 04
    -2
    Great news. Well done! How fast everything in the world is changing ..
  • cniza
    cniza 28 May 2021 18: 08
    +5
    The Ministry of Energy of the Russian Federation informs about the meeting of the head of the department Nikolai Shulginov with the Pakistani ambassador to Moscow Shafkat Ali-Khan. The officials signed an agreement that grants Russia the right to build a gas pipeline with a total length of about 1,1 thousand kilometers.


    Now the United States will begin to squeal that we do not know how to build and our technologies are old ...
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 28 May 2021 19: 09
      +3
      Quote: cniza
      Now the United States will begin to squeal that we do not know how to build and that our technologies are old.

      Yesterday they squealed that the Russian gas was "dirty", and tomorrow they will start squealing that the Russian pipes are "dirty" too. Although if this business is entrusted to Zhenya Psaki, then the matter will go smoothly.
    2. Terenin
      Terenin 28 May 2021 20: 02
      +3
      Quote: cniza
      and our technologies are old ...

      And, we always warned them that the consequences of technology are inevitable. yes

      hi
      1. cniza
        cniza 28 May 2021 20: 24
        +4
        We are kind and not evil at all, and we stand on that ... yes

        hi
        1. Terenin
          Terenin 28 May 2021 20: 50
          +2
          Quote: cniza
          on that we stand ...

          Remembered Boris Gurevich winked
          Any grief, every trouble
          because of that, I admit it against my will,
          that we almost always
          in everything stronger willpower.
  • Warhead-xnumx
    Warhead-xnumx 28 May 2021 18: 17
    +4
    I said, I say and I will say that in Gazprom there are hucksters and krakhobors who do not care about the citizens of their (their own?) Country. An example from real life: at a time when a very cunning red-haired comrade was the head of RAO UES, they were asked to pay 1 thousand of some USD for connecting a private house to the power grid. for 1 kW of power. I needed 15 kW. on house. Ie. I had to pay for the installation of poles, for the TP, for the lines, and on top of that, give another 15 pieces of greenery for some mythical "permission to connect to the facilities." Then the red-haired comrade was sent by the party and the government to raise the nano industry from its knees. And, lo and behold, less than a year after this rearrangement, they brought me 15 kW to the house for a conditional 550 rubles. They themselves put up poles, extended lines, installed a transformer substation, etc. And all this for 550 rubles! I only paid for the introductory accounting cabinet. So maybe not everything is so sad and expensive with gas for the population? Maybe you just need to turn to face the citizens of your country? About electricity, too, no one believed that this was possible. But no. Everything is possible, there would be a desire and normal leaders in the structures.
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  • Ruslan Sulima
    Ruslan Sulima 28 May 2021 18: 50
    0
    Test! Trolling at the state level
  • sergo1914
    sergo1914 28 May 2021 18: 51
    -2
    When will they start building gas pipelines from Moscow? Gas companies are here to hell. And there are no gas pipelines. Disorder. Moscow has the cleanest gas. Free from impurities and odor.
  • yuliatreb
    yuliatreb 28 May 2021 18: 56
    0
    I see no reason for optimism, it is a shame for the state, I think the future generation will say a huge "thank you" to the current managers.
  • Xlor
    Xlor 28 May 2021 18: 59
    -6
    How will they pull the pipe? Through Afghanistan or what?
    1. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 28 May 2021 19: 50
      -1
      And read carefully?)))))
      1. Terenin
        Terenin 28 May 2021 20: 09
        +4
        Quote: Xlor
        How will they pull the pipe? Through Afghanistan or what?

        Quote: carstorm 11
        And read carefully?)))))

        Karachi-Lahore. In Pakistan itself.
        I myself, in a hurry ... stalled.
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 28 May 2021 20: 12
          -1
          Judging by the comments, 90+ percent have not read at all, and even comment on the title) so you have nothing to be ashamed of)))
          1. Terenin
            Terenin 28 May 2021 20: 17
            +1
            Quote: carstorm 11
            Judging by the comments, 90+ percent have not read at all, and even comment on the title) so you have nothing to be ashamed of)))

            Yes, Dima. Out of habit, straight into a fight laughing
            1. carstorm 11
              carstorm 11 28 May 2021 20: 20
              +4
              Just a circus)))) and they argue more importantly
              1. Terenin
                Terenin 28 May 2021 20: 47
                +3
                Quote: carstorm 11
                Just a circus)))) and they argue more importantly

                Leave. It is useless to separate No.
      2. Xlor
        Xlor 29 May 2021 03: 51
        +1
        You should read it too.
        And take a closer look
  • Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 28 May 2021 19: 04
    +1
    And what do our Indian comrades think about this?
    1. Luminman
      Luminman 28 May 2021 19: 19
      +1
      It seems like I read somewhere that they are planning to extend a gas pipeline from Pakistan to India.
      1. Brturin
        Brturin 28 May 2021 19: 34
        +1
        This is TAPI - Turkmenistan - India, there is still a problem with the Afghan section, it seems they have agreed with all the parties, but ... the states are leaving ...
        1. Petrol cutter
          Petrol cutter 28 May 2021 20: 01
          +1
          Something in my heart tells me that my Indian comrades may at any second start * hassles * with their Pakistani partners.
          And this somehow does not instill confidence in the success of the project ...
          1. Brturin
            Brturin 28 May 2021 20: 43
            0
            Let's see ... "We don't want to do anything with Pakistan's participation," Indian Oil and Gas Minister Dharmendra Pradhan said in early 2020, and the Iran-India underwater gas pipeline project through Pakistani waters has sunk into oblivion ... Gazprom has chosen a different wording "Today we We do not consider the construction of a gas pipeline to India. Indeed, several years ago there were such conversations, in particular, the Indian side proposed it, but this is too capital-intensive a route. There is a so-called flexible pipe for deliveries to India, which we successfully carry out in the form of LNG. " .. For TAPI, the states were somehow fussing ...
  • Butchcassidy
    Butchcassidy 28 May 2021 19: 08
    -6
    As I understand it, Russia has revealed plans to establish a Russian-Pakistani border?)) But seriously, how will the gas pipeline go? It would be logical to lay it across the Caspian to Iran and from there to Pakistan. But will all the Caspian countries agree on the construction of such a gas pipeline? This is an asterisk question.
    1. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 28 May 2021 20: 13
      +3
      Or read the text and see where it comes from and where. Hint-terminal LNG)))
      1. Butchcassidy
        Butchcassidy 30 May 2021 08: 54
        -1
        No, I read it carefully. And I didn't understand.
        The gas pipeline will connect Pakistan's largest liquefied natural gas terminals.


        As far as I remember, Lahore is still not a port and it is not expedient to build an LNG terminal. It is more profitable to regasify LNG in Karachi and then push it further along a conventional gas pipeline. If I'm wrong, let the experts correct me. Personally, I understood the article that LNG is only part of the project.
    2. Terenin
      Terenin 28 May 2021 20: 15
      +5

      Article for attentiveness wink
      construction of a gas pipeline that will connect the largest cities of the Asian country - Karachi and Lahore.
      1. Butchcassidy
        Butchcassidy 30 May 2021 09: 00
        -1
        The gas pipeline will connect Pakistan's largest liquefied natural gas terminals.


        LNG terminals are what accepts LNG tankers and subsequently regasifies it for consumer use. Lahore is a land-based city, what's the point of building an LNG terminal there? I already wrote above that, as I understand it, LNG is only part of the project, and the pipeline itself assumes ordinary gas.

        In any case, ChelPipe will be loaded with work and that is good. But we need gas pipelines inside the country
  • Warhead-xnumx
    Warhead-xnumx 28 May 2021 19: 12
    -1
    The minimum price for gas supply to the site starts from 600 thousand rubles. Plus on the site, boiler, etc. This is the Moscow region. Something like this. I haven't typed it yet.
    1. Petrol cutter
      Petrol cutter 28 May 2021 21: 05
      +1
      Duck, like Well, He reported that it was the government's expense to pull the pipe to the object.
      The rest of the wiring, of course, for ours.
      I'm not particularly relevant anymore. We started gas at UA. For expensive. I worked two watches in St. Petersburg. To cover debts.
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 28 May 2021 19: 14
    +1
    I wonder how, there is experience in laying, the production of pipes is established, here you have a living economy, not financial bubbles.
    1. Clear
      Clear 28 May 2021 20: 40
      +3
      Quote: Ros 56
      I wonder how, there is experience in laying, the production of pipes is established, here you have a living economy, not financial bubbles.

      I will add. Adapted to Western howling and sanctions ... yes
  • prior
    prior 28 May 2021 19: 19
    -2
    We are waiting for Nord Stream 3 and Nord Stream 4. yes
  • Warhead-xnumx
    Warhead-xnumx 28 May 2021 19: 52
    -7
    We have the feeling with Nord Stream 2 that we are building it not to supply gas there, but to pump gas out of there. And here is another stream, and in Pakistan! That still partner, worse than Turkey and Bulgaria will be. Let's ride the rake! I thought it about the independent villagers. But no.
    1. Petrol cutter
      Petrol cutter 28 May 2021 20: 03
      -2
      Colleague agree ...
  • Soldatov V.
    Soldatov V. 28 May 2021 19: 55
    -4
    For whose money will the construction be? Again, for our loans with a minimum interest? We just have nowhere to do with the money. Pakistan is very far from us in mentality, psychology, religion. And in Afghanistan, how much blood they gave to us. where will it go, who will build. And where will they direct their profits, again to the Taliban? To arms against India. A very muddy project.
  • Terenin
    Terenin 28 May 2021 19: 55
    +3
    Is there a preliminary outline?
    And, of course, this is inside Pakistan. I almost burst laughing
    1. Clear
      Clear 28 May 2021 20: 44
      +7
      Quote: Terenin
      Is there a preliminary outline?
      And, of course, this is inside Pakistan. I almost burst laughing

      It's okay, Gena. There is a scheme yes
      Look, blue "North-South".

  • faterdom
    faterdom 28 May 2021 20: 23
    0
    Well, that's okay. There is still the Indian Stream, the Korean Stream and some Norman Stream to build. Even the Japanese, if the peace treaty is signed after all.
    And the Americans will impose sanctions and embargoes on everyone.
  • Metallurg_2
    Metallurg_2 28 May 2021 20: 49
    0
    There is no information there, when will they start pulling the "Russian Stream" into the countryside?
  • Marachuh
    Marachuh 28 May 2021 21: 08
    +1
    I think I understood the scheme: we tell everyone that we are building the Nord Stream, Turkish, Chinese, Pakistani, etc., and we ourselves just sell and install pipes
  • Alexey Krekotnev
    Alexey Krekotnev 28 May 2021 21: 53
    -6
    And who in general authorized the authorities of the ERF to squander the natural resources of our country? I? Can not be! Then who?!
  • lisiy prapor
    lisiy prapor 28 May 2021 23: 46
    +2
    When it comes to the next "stream", for some reason I have this in front of my eyes:
    Sixth economy, mmm
  • tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 29 May 2021 03: 12
    0
    I read and think - swear or be proud !? For the first they will be banned, for the second they are "happy" for Comrade Miller and the company, but where does Russia come from? - Patriots live on coal and wood.
  • Basarev
    Basarev 29 May 2021 12: 33
    -2
    And what will Russia get from this? Selling again for a penny, as with the Power of Siberia? Or another irrevocable loan? And does Russia need to live with this poverty at all? There is such a thing - an unrespectable partnership. And in this case, Russia is not at all beautiful that it works with these savages and terrorists. It would be more correct not to have anything to do with this vile country, which is a zap for any civilized state.
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner 29 May 2021 16: 54
    -1
    I don't like packs since the Afghan events. Those still ... Well, to hell with them. I hope ours know what they are doing.
  • Safron
    Safron 29 May 2021 20: 00
    0
    The trouble is what for the United States.
  • Nord11
    Nord11 29 May 2021 22: 38
    -1
    Well, look, if you cost this stream, bypassing Poland and Ukraine, they will throw you such a tantrum ..
  • gla172
    gla172 29 May 2021 22: 39
    0
    .... Anywhere gas ... anyone ... and my own gun with oil .... I live in the Pskov region, half of which only dream of gas (((..