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Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Federation: Russian gas flowing through pipes is 4 times cleaner than American gas in terms of its carbon footprint

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In Russia, officials continue to speak out about the frankly ridiculous statement by the head of the US Department of Energy that the Nord Stream 2 pipeline will carry "the dirtiest gas in the world." This statement, as already reported by "Voennoye Obozreniye", was made by the head of the US Department of Energy Jennifer Granholm. According to her, she “expresses the position of the entire ministry when she opposes the construction of the SP-2”. The congressmen liked this position of Granholm.

The words of the head of the US Department of Energy were commented on by Deputy Prime Minister of Russia Alexander Novak, who some time ago served as head of the Ministry of Energy of the Russian Federation.

According to Alexander Novak, if we really compare the chemical composition of Russian and American gas, then Russian gas transported through pipelines has 4 times less carbon footprint per kWh than gas supplied to Europeans from the United States. That is, Russian gas is 4 times cleaner than gas produced in the United States. The Deputy Prime Minister pointed out that this is not his personal speculation, but the data of a number of analytical agencies available in the public domain.

Alexander Novak stressed that this situation is related to production. Most of the gas supplied to Europe from the United States is of shale origin. In this case, production is carried out by hydraulic fracturing.

Novak added that Russian gas is one of the most environmentally friendly sources of energy, and all words that it is supposedly the dirtiest in the world are devoid of any real ground and logic.

Thus, the Russian government official actually made it clear that the US Secretary of Energy was making statements confirming her (Jennifer Granholm's) incompetence.
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  1. marchcat
    marchcat 28 May 2021 11: 53
    +14
    I wonder if Jennifer Granholm realizes that she "fucked up" the whole world? or just what to say ???
    1. APASUS
      APASUS 28 May 2021 11: 58
      +5
      Quote: marchcat
      I wonder if Jennifer Granholm realizes that she "fucked up" the whole world?

      This is competition in the American way! And here all the methods are good
    2. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 28 May 2021 12: 02
      +16
      This is for domestic consumption. Americans do not particularly study the world's media. And very little know the opinion of other parties.
      1. Machito
        Machito 28 May 2021 12: 05
        +7
        This is psacking. Fake media, as Donald Trump said.
      2. The Siberian barber
        The Siberian barber 28 May 2021 12: 12
        +14
        Moreover, most of them have no idea where Russia is at all)))
        Game, but true))
        1. Vladimir Mashkov
          Vladimir Mashkov 28 May 2021 19: 30
          +1
          When I heard the news about what Jennifer Granholm blurted out about Russian gas, I laughed for a long time. But there is nothing surprising in this. American officials are all, with rare exceptions, arrogant, arrogant and densely ignorant. They are only interested in how they will look and will be appreciated by the Americans (and even then not by all), and they do not care about the opinion of the rest of the world! "Psaking" they have been founded since childhood!
          1. Motorist
            Motorist 28 May 2021 20: 07
            -1
            Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
            blurted out Jennifer Granholm about Russian gas

            Maybe she expressed herself allegorically? Well, like, the labor of children, slaves or prisoners is used in the extraction. And half-wild Cossack drivers are transported to the chimney on bear sleds ... They will do it, but the people, as they say, gobble up.
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      4. WIKI
        WIKI 28 May 2021 22: 44
        -1
        Quote: carstorm 11
        This is for domestic consumption.

        According to Alexander Novak, if you really compare the chemical composition

        Novak's words, this is also only for domestic consumption. Why not add the carbon footprint of pipe production to the calculation. And they were packed, for example, at SP-2, 10 million 300 thousand tons. One tonne accounts for 500 kg of CO2.
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 28 May 2021 22: 53
          +1
          Seriously?))) And the liquefaction plants, for the construction of tankers, equipment for the extraction of a trace do not leave?))) With pipes and not stood nearby)
          1. WIKI
            WIKI 29 May 2021 08: 33
            -1
            Can you be more specific? Preferably with numbers. I do not like slogans.
    3. Peak
      Peak 28 May 2021 12: 06
      +4
      Quote: marchcat
      I wonder if Jennifer Granholm realizes that she "fucked up" the whole world? or just what to say ???


      Have you ever seen an ashamed lawyer?

      But the chief of the US Department of Energy Jennifer Granholm, from their breed yes
      She received her Juris Doctor from Harvard in 1987.

      Everything to her is God's dew ...
      1. Kuroneko
        Kuroneko 28 May 2021 14: 54
        +6
        Quote: PiK
        Have you ever seen an ashamed lawyer?

        At our university at the department of mathematics there was one popular anecdote on the topic ...

        A new butcher's shop was opened in the city. Well, one man comes in there to see the assortment and prices. In the meantime, he notices a window display where the brains of mathematicians lie. 50re per kilogram. And next to it are the brains of lawyers, 5 rubles per kg.
        The man does not eat, asks the seller: - Why is there such a difference in price?
        The seller to him: - Do you have any idea how many lawyers have to be hammered per kilogram of brains ?!
        1. Motorist
          Motorist 28 May 2021 20: 13
          +1
          Quote: Kuroneko
          Do you have any idea how many lawyers have to be hammered per kilogram of brains ?!

          Ha! good Cool: we had the same anecdote, only about the brains of mechanics and navigators. drinks
    4. den3080
      den3080 28 May 2021 12: 16
      +7
      Quote: marchcat
      I wonder if Jennifer Granholm realizes that she "fucked up" the whole world? or just what to say ???

      Is this Psaki's half-sister ?? smile
      In general, the Anglo-Saxons are some kind of miserable ... lies on lies and lies drive ... nothing but shameless lies and the level is extremely low
      How did they manage to degrade in 30 years? Or maybe they have always been like that?
      1. orionvitt
        orionvitt 28 May 2021 13: 47
        0
        Quote: den3080
        Or maybe they have always been like that?

        The ability to blatantly lie, in order to achieve their goals, is an integral feature of the Anglo-Saxons in general. And in general, in the world of profit and cash, there is no other way. It's in the blood of the west. On the other hand, when everything is fine with you, you can still afford to tell the truth sometimes. But when everything crumbles with you, then there is nothing left but to sink to a total lie, which is designed to discredit opponents in every possible way. As soon as they open their mouths, they will surely lie. Apparently they are doing very badly.
    5. Finches
      Finches 28 May 2021 12: 21
      +5
      I remember Brother-2 as an answer to the Americans: ... Look at yourself - black as a bastard. Have you read Moidodyr? laughing
    6. Polite Moose
      Polite Moose 28 May 2021 12: 27
      0
      Quote: marchcat
      I wonder if Jennifer Granholm realizes that she "fucked up" the whole world?

      That she will all be "god's dew"
      1. swnvaleria
        swnvaleria 28 May 2021 13: 14
        0
        but he will say that it was a golden shower
    7. knn54
      knn54 28 May 2021 12: 38
      0
      The Yankees believe that their gas is the most democratic. And today competence is very often replaced by devotion and nepotism.
    8. RealPilot
      RealPilot 28 May 2021 12: 44
      0
      The task here is to promote your business, in this case gas. By getting rid of competitors.

      And so it gives a pass to the lured environmentalists: we remember the recent halt in the construction of Nord Stream 2 for a month after the lawsuit of eco-activists in Germany. A cry to intensify the struggle and information support.

      And the statement of an American official is the headline of newspapers, websites and news programs. This is "informational content" to a wide audience through controlled media.

      Yes, in terms of the total carbon footprint of the mining process (by hydraulic fracturing) and the damage to the environment from chemicals pumped into the ground, water and soil poisoning, American shale gas is more harmful.

      But these are "molecules of freedom" (remember the Trump era)! And freedom is never free and requires sacrifices, "democratic gas" against "totalitarian" ... What objections can there be? Who should be kicked out of their jobs in the media or from positions in any European government?

      This is how American propaganda works!
    9. alexmach
      alexmach 28 May 2021 13: 46
      +1
      why did you screw up? She said what the listeners expected from her. For this she will receive the gingerbread put to her by status. Well, we laughed, yes, but does she really care?
    10. boris epstein
      boris epstein 28 May 2021 14: 00
      +1
      Yes, she doesn't give a damn about it, her business is to crow (to cackle), but at least there is no light there.
    11. NF68
      NF68 28 May 2021 15: 58
      0
      Quote: marchcat
      I wonder if Jennifer Granholm realizes that she "fucked up" the whole world? or just what to say ???


      It has now become fashionable for them.
  2. prior
    prior 28 May 2021 11: 57
    +1
    Jennifer Granholm.
    You are "fucked up" with your clean gas. You really stink.
    It stinks of rotten Russophobia.
  3. Carib
    Carib 28 May 2021 11: 58
    +2
    It looks like Jennifer Granholm did not learn chemistry in college, and she also does not know how to consult with counselors (does not want to). Complete incompetence, like that of Psaki .... It looks like the striped ones have a philological background, and they studied the wrong way !!!
  4. cniza
    cniza 28 May 2021 12: 02
    +4
    Thus, the Russian government official actually made it clear that the US Secretary of Energy was making statements confirming her (Jennifer Granholm's) incompetence.


    And do not go to court?
    1. Clear
      Clear 28 May 2021 12: 32
      +1
      Quote: cniza
      Thus, the Russian government official actually made it clear that the US Secretary of Energy was making statements confirming her (Jennifer Granholm's) incompetence.


      And do not go to court?

      Probably afraid to offend and not get entry visas.

      hi
      1. cniza
        cniza 28 May 2021 12: 40
        +6
        hi

        Well, yes, they won't be allowed on the warm ocean ...
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 28 May 2021 13: 13
          0
          Hi soldier
          The striped ones lead their line clearly ... and then a green theme will emerge and .... they will want to buy a lot! Otherwise, green fines / taxes and other things will be thrown.
          Everything is very serious.
          1. cniza
            cniza 28 May 2021 13: 37
            +3
            hi

            The green theme is very insidious and we have no positions there, it can be very painful ...
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 28 May 2021 15: 20
              0
              Positions are POSSIBLE! We must rustle more actively, in the right direction.
              1. cniza
                cniza 28 May 2021 16: 04
                +3
                So, we don't see any actions yet, or we don't know ...
                1. rocket757
                  rocket757 28 May 2021 16: 58
                  +1
                  Some hints were, for sure, that something is being done ... but what, where, how, is not very clear.
                  1. cniza
                    cniza 28 May 2021 18: 03
                    +4
                    Let's hope they don't oversleep ...
    2. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 28 May 2021 13: 02
      +1
      Quote: cniza
      Thus, the Russian government official actually made it clear that the US Secretary of Energy was making statements confirming her (Jennifer Granholm's) incompetence.


      And do not go to court?

      Which court to file with? and, How to formulate the essence of the claim? request
      It's just that our officials need to move away from these neutral definitions such as "incompetence" and call a spade a spade - "Like du.ra, this is the US Secretary of Energy, and there is nothing to take from her apart from analyzes."
      1. cniza
        cniza 28 May 2021 13: 39
        +4
        In the United States, they are a country of lawyers and are happy to sue, they will work for us, and the lawsuit is libel of the US state authorities and, as a result, the possibility of losing business reputation ...
        1. Clear
          Clear 28 May 2021 20: 20
          +3
          Quote: cniza
          In the USA, they are a country of lawyers and are happy to sue, they will work for us

          Right. By their own, by their own weapon yes
    3. Brturin
      Brturin 28 May 2021 15: 14
      +1
      Quote: cniza
      And do not go to court?

      There may be "tricky" mathematics, you can consider the production cycle (production, transportation, etc.), or you can, for example, take the figures for the total methane emissions - now the Arctic zone is strongly "phonated" with methane .... they are no stranger to play this "tricky green math" ...
      The voiced preliminary estimate of methane emissions on the shelf of the eastern Arctic seas reaches 100 million tons of methane per year, which, when multiplied by 84 (GWP of methane over a period of 20 years), gives 8,4 Gigatons in CO2 equivalent. This fictitious value will block everything that can be substantiated by absorption by Russian forests, swamps and seas. At the same time, 98% of gas hydrate deposits fall on the shelf of other countries in the middle and tropical latitudes, the methane degassing of which is in no way inferior to the Arctic deposits.
      https://regnum.ru/news/polit/3248191.html.
  5. Cat Alexandrovich
    Cat Alexandrovich 28 May 2021 12: 06
    +2
    And what a devil is our deputy chairman disgraced by giving such comments.
    To shame a liar, make fun of a fool
    And arguing with a woman is the same
    What to draw water sieve:
    Deliver us from these three, God! ..
    Lermontov
  6. Light
    Light 28 May 2021 12: 08
    +4
    Washed mattresses)
  7. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 28 May 2021 12: 10
    0
    Duc our oil, for the place of the Venetian oil, so smokes, and nothing. They hawk the state oil refineries and pray that the oil "stream" from Russia does not dry out.
  8. Pereira
    Pereira 28 May 2021 12: 12
    0
    In the United States, this is not dirt, this is the very freedom.
    1. 210ox
      210ox 28 May 2021 12: 28
      -2
      Yes, this is completely different. Gas is not totalitarian! what
  9. Klingon
    Klingon 28 May 2021 12: 15
    +2
    yeah, the Germans are not stupid and would not buy "the dirtiest gas in the world" given how much they care about the environment, so this statement is just a spit against the wind, that's all wassat
    but this spit will seem sugary and it will be licked with pleasure by Yochlopitheks, Psheki and Tribaltic extinctions laughing
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 28 May 2021 12: 40
      +5
      Quote: Klingon
      yeah, the Germans are not stupid and would not buy "the dirtiest gas in the world" given how much they care about the environment, so this statement is just a spit against the wind, that's all wassat
      but this spit will seem sugary and it will be licked with pleasure by Yochlopitheks, Psheki and Tribaltic extinctions laughing

      This is really a really frankly ridiculous statement by the head of the US Department of Energy fool
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 28 May 2021 13: 10
        +1
        Everything in the subject !!! Do not consider the minke stupid.
        The "green" theme will develop and then, all the statements about pure American and dirty Russian gas will emerge just in time!
        Everything is very serious, everything is well thought out !!!
        If you do not take countermeasures right now, then it will be very difficult.
        1. Terenin
          Terenin 28 May 2021 17: 04
          +3
          Quote: rocket757
          If you do not take countermeasures right now, then it will be very difficult.

          We answer, immediately through all media channels, for the layman, primarily Western, that "... Russian gas is four times purer than American ...".
          Experts already know this.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 28 May 2021 21: 09
            0
            Quote: Terenin

            We answer, immediately through all media channels, for the layman

            1. What average person listens to OUR media? West?
            2. How many of these are our media outlets, and how many they have !!! It will be like a shot from a small car against the background of a volley of a Gaubitz battery!
            3. How many of our official bodies can perform, and which choir of different official and close Westerners will start singing in unison, can you imagine? Well, how, Tsey voice will be louder, importunate, convincing ??? And do not care who exactly speaks the TRUTH, will hear those who have LOUDER!
            And now a small spoonful of honey, in that barrel ... bitter. I listened, read, there are interesting IDEAS, PROPOSALS that can neutralize everything that is ready to fall on us .... if, suddenly, they begin to be implemented, there is a serious chance to flounder, stay afloat, and not immediately start blowing bubbles !! !
            Those. we will see !!!
            1. Terenin
              Terenin 28 May 2021 23: 17
              +2
              Quote: rocket757
              1. What average person listens to OUR media? West?
              2. How many of these are our media outlets, and how many they have !!! It will be like a shot from a small car against the background of a volley of a Gaubitz battery!
              3. How many of our official bodies can perform, and which choir of different official and close Westerners will start singing in unison, can you imagine? Well, how, Tsey voice will be louder, importunate, convincing ??? And do not care who exactly speaks the TRUTH, will hear those who have LOUDER!

              So what now, go hang yourself? Or
              Quote: rocket757
              we will see !!!



              Quote: rocket757
              there is a serious chance to flounder, stay afloat, and not immediately start blowing bubbles !!!
              We fight as best we can.
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 29 May 2021 08: 06
                0
                Quote: Terenin
                We fight as best we can

                We must fight MORE EFFICIENTLY.
                There is such an opportunity, and it would not hurt to unite, to gather, in a mighty handful !!!
                They will not put pressure on us alone in this way .... the greedy cunning have long united into their gang, but all the others, at the expense of whom and on whom, they parasitize, pull the cat by the tail ... and one by one they grab them and not choke!
                1. Terenin
                  Terenin 29 May 2021 12: 54
                  +2
                  Quote: rocket757
                  yes, and unite, get together, in a mighty handful would not hurt!

                  For the first two or three posts (with rare exceptions), it is clear who is in which bunch ...
        2. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 28 May 2021 17: 58
          +2
          Quote: rocket757
          Everything in the subject !!! Do not consider the minke stupid.
          The "green" theme will develop and then, all the statements about pure American and dirty Russian gas will emerge just in time!
          Everything is very serious, everything is well thought out !!!

          In the event that the "greens" violently rest against green energy, the topic of a hydrogen alternative to natural gas is now actively ventilated, replacing it with hydrogen in the SP-2 pipe for Russia is quite a solvable task.
          Here, even Ukraine was roused by the prospect, in case of a transit stop, to fill its GTS with hydrogen and drive it to Europe. Although it is absolutely unclear where they are going to get money for the modernization of the GTS, since Given the high volatility of hydrogen, its losses during transportation through an operating pipe can reach 60%, that is, without modernization, this is a loss for the Ukrainian GTS.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 28 May 2021 21: 16
            +1
            The question is not about green energy ... this is not a quick business.
            The question of what they NOW want to fuck with us, imposing green taxes !!!
            By the way, simply by switching to the supply of "clean fuel", i.e. hydrogen, the issue is not resolved. Believe me, the experts have already checked this case, laid it to pieces and found vulnerabilities there, which foreign goons will definitely pay attention to!
            The question is simply not solved ... I already wrote above, they are working on this issue !!! but when it comes down to it, it's hard to say.
            1. Nyrobsky
              Nyrobsky 28 May 2021 22: 57
              +1
              Quote: rocket757
              The question of what they NOW want to fuck with us, imposing green taxes !!!

              So here, too, Russia has its own trump cards in order to fight off green taxes, namely those expanses that are covered with forests that absorb carbon dioxide. There is even an initiative to sell foreign companies the opportunity to personally take part in reforestation after felling and fires, in order to obtain an additional limit on carbon dioxide emissions. Forests are a compensatory advantage.
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 29 May 2021 07: 59
                +1
                Quote: Nyrobsky
                namely, those spaces that are covered with forests that absorb carbon dioxide.

                The point is that if with intelligence, with all perseverance, well-reasoned, well-organized, lead YOUR offensive against the "green bandits", count extortionists !!! You can, you can get support from many who, too, will be pressed by foreign floors !!!
                It is necessary for ALL TOGETHER to get together and give them grabbing ones on their paws.
  10. Ruslan Sulima
    Ruslan Sulima 28 May 2021 12: 30
    +1
    By "dirty", she probably meant the already stuffed Oski "intolerant", "undemocratic", "aggressive" and so on.
    And as for me, our dirty bum is better than a dirty bum in New York, ours is kinder and thinks big)
  11. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 28 May 2021 12: 33
    +4
    That is, Russian gas is 4 times cleaner than gas produced in the United States.
    Their specialists are well aware of this, but this does not fit into the tactics of the fight against SP-2 (read the Russian gas market). It has become the norm for American officials and politicians to screw up in recent decades, and they do not pay attention to it. satellites will be afraid to fix it anyway.
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 28 May 2021 13: 06
      0
      No, no, JV 2 is almost ready, it will work .... they make bookmarks for future "green" levies / taxes / fines !!! They need real money / resources, I asked them with their green candy wrappers, they can no longer do it! So the bickering / struggle is still ahead and they are PREPARING for it!
  12. Butchcassidy
    Butchcassidy 28 May 2021 12: 38
    +1
    Novak is one of the most competent and effective leaders of our Government
    1. Cat Alexandrovich
      Cat Alexandrovich 28 May 2021 12: 46
      -1
      He is a genius!!!!! And the hope of the Russian economy !!!
  13. Tagan
    Tagan 28 May 2021 12: 38
    +1
    Texas stinkers. All the same.
  14. Tagan
    Tagan 28 May 2021 12: 40
    +1
    Quote: den3080

    Is this Psaki's half-sister ?? smile
    In general, the Anglo-Saxons are some kind of miserable ... lies on lies and lies drive ... nothing but shameless lies and the level is extremely low
    How did they manage to degrade in 30 years? Or maybe they have always been like that?

    Consumer society ... Costs of civilization.
  15. Ascold1901
    Ascold1901 28 May 2021 12: 50
    +1
    Maybe the name Jennifer somehow affects mental abilities.)))) This is the second Janie in the Yankees.)))))
  16. rocket757
    rocket757 28 May 2021 13: 01
    +1

    Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Federation: Russian gas flowing through pipes is 4 times cleaner than American gas in terms of its carbon footprint
    ... Butt??? Is there any reason?
    For them there is the most dermokratic gas and all the rest, bad, dirty by definition.
  17. From Tomsk
    From Tomsk 28 May 2021 13: 33
    +1
    Russian gas is also a staunch homophobe.
  18. Kushka
    Kushka 28 May 2021 13: 34
    -1
    Alexander Novak stressed that this situation is related to production. Most [/ b] US ​​gas supplied to Europe is of shale origin. In this case, production is carried out by hydraulic fracturing.[i] [/ i]
    Here Novak has already poked up - there cannot be a BIG PART of almost a trillion m3 of production
    The United States (955 billion m3 per year) is shale in origin.

    2018 2019
    2 Russia 680,4 703,8
    1 US 868,1 955,1

    1 23,1% USA
    2 17,0% Russia
    Otherwise, it turns out that this BIG part will be equal to all gas produced by Russia.[B]
    1. Brturin
      Brturin 28 May 2021 14: 52
      0
      Novak - Most of the gas supplied to Europe from the United States is of shale origin. He did not say most of the production in all states ... He has sources of supply for the LNG plants ... In the winter, Texas even had to slow down the LNG plants. there was not enough gas ... There is no "global" gas pipeline system in the states ...
    2. Kushka
      Kushka 28 May 2021 15: 49
      -1
      From what I found: the total gas production in the United States is over 900 billion m3,
      from the bottom of the shale there are already more than 300, i.e. third.
      European market - over 560 billion, from the bottom Russia 200 + 20 LNG (39%)
      further Scandinavians 120 and beyond
      - Qatar (32,7 billion cubic meters, only LNG), Algeria (30 billion, pipeline and LNG), USA (17,7 billion, LNG) and Nigeria (15,7 billion LNG).
      (17,7 is about nothing - this is the gas production in Ukraine killed twice or three times)
      For politicians, if only to butt, at least for an occasion, at least for no reason.
      As in an old joke - Benya's daughter is a prostitute!
      So Beni has no daughter, he has two sons!
      And it doesn’t matter.
  19. ODERVIT
    ODERVIT 28 May 2021 13: 50
    0
    Maybe there is no need to turn idiotic passages from overseas into world news? Enough, have heard enough.
    1. kventinasd
      kventinasd 28 May 2021 14: 13
      0
      It should! fellow If these were the passages of various power-wielding idiots from the most distant unfinished, then you can somehow skip it. But this is a whole minister of the superpower itself.
      1. ODERVIT
        ODERVIT 28 May 2021 17: 55
        0
        Do not!!! wink While commenting and discussing, we acknowledge their importance.
  20. isv000
    isv000 28 May 2021 15: 32
    0
    All this is like a sandbox: do not play with my toys and do not pee in my pot ... crying
  21. 123456789
    123456789 28 May 2021 23: 21
    0
    In Russia, officials continue to speak out about the frankly ridiculous statement by the head of the US Department of Energy that the Nord Stream 2 pipeline will go “the dirtiest gas in the world. "

    Perhaps it was meant that our gas contains other fractions in addition to methane. Speechwriters did not explain what they wrote laughing
  22. safar gafarov
    safar gafarov 29 May 2021 08: 07
    0
    This stupid deputy chairman. Just send Amerzians in three letters and more and more to explain to these yeshaks do not need