The Ministry of Defense announced the launching of a maritime transport of weapons of the project 20360M

Built at the Rybinsk shipyard Vympel, the newest marine weapons transport Gennady Dmitriev of project 20360M is being prepared for launch. The launching ceremony is scheduled for June 1 this year. This was reported by the press service of the Ministry of Defense.

The military department announced the launching of a maritime transport of weapons of the project 20360M. As noted at the Vympel shipyard, this is the largest ship built at the enterprise for its entire history.

The project 20360M maritime transport "Gennady Dmitriev" was laid down on May 5, 2017 within the framework of a contract concluded on March 5, 2016 with the Ministry of Defense for two vessels of this project. As stated at the enterprise, both vehicles were to be handed over to the customer in 2019 and 2020, respectively, and go to serve on the Black Sea (head) and Baltic (second) fleet.

There is little general information on the construction of these vessels, after the publication about the laying of the head transport "Gennady Dmitriev", except for the specific information about the manufacture of various devices for the ship, etc., another one appeared in March 2021 about its roll-out from the workshop. The second armament transport "Vladimir Pyalov" was laid down on March 15, 2018 at the Nobel Brothers Shipyard in Rybinsk.

The Project 20360M maritime armament transport was developed by the Vympel Design Bureau (Nizhny Novgorod) on the basis of the Dubnyak Project 20360, adjusted for the requirements of the Ministry of Defense. The vessel has an ice-reinforced hull, double bottom and double sides, two cargo holds, a platform for transporting cargo in containers, a crane with a lifting capacity of 20 tons and a bow helicopter landing platform.

Purpose - reception from berths and transfer to ships at basing points and on an open roadstead of special cargo. The length of the vessel is 77 m, width is 15,8 m.

Comments

[PN]

If you look closely at the right propeller column in the photo, it looks like it has two screws. One at the back under the cover, the second at the front, not covered.

[Peak]

Quote: PN

If you look closely at the right propeller column in the photo, it looks like it has two screws. One at the back under the cover, the second at the front, not covered.

It seems so. Then the maneuverability, in fact, a small ship is guaranteed.

[knn54]

The anti-terrorist operation in Syria proved the need for such a class of ships. It is not necessary to involve large landing ships, civilian ships and other dual-use ships.

[Eldorado]

Such ships are really needed, but this project has a minimum carrying capacity, much less than that of a large landing craft.

[Ruslan Sulima]

lifting capacity is minimal, much less

Which is embarrassing, a little more than a sea minesweeper, I can't imagine what can be placed in two holds with such a displacement.

[Serg65]

Quote: Ruslan Sulima

I have no idea what can be accommodated in two holds with such a displacement.

Military transport weapons, Ruslan, what can be placed on it? Tanks? Armored personnel carriers? Aircraft? You're like a sailor!

[Ruslan Sulima]

Yes, I understand everything) That's why I say. Even in Baskunchak, Dauria, Sevan, I don’t remember now, the rest of the 3 brigade of the PUK KChF could have been taken away more. Moreover, these are search and rescue vessels. What for to do undersized? I don’t understand.
And about the performance characteristics, where does the almost threefold displacement come from in comparison with the sea minesweeper? By add-ons? And what for the transport of weapons once again shine their face?
In general, for me the project is very controversial) Moreover, the ice class at the KChF ...

[Serg65]

Quote: Ruslan Sulima

In general, for me the project is very controversial)

Is this the same controversial one?

Quote: Ruslan Sulima

Moreover, the ice class at the KChF ...

At the KChF, they didn't bother about the ice class!

[Ruslan Sulima]

At the KChF, they didn't bother about the ice class!

I don’t argue)
But to make it undersized for transporting, conventionally, 10 missiles, and to make it as visible as possible. Now this fashion is to shove wherever you go on the helicopter decks, and here also on the tank ...

[Serg65]

Quote: Ruslan Sulima

But to make undersized for transportation, conditionally, 10 missiles,

The VTR in the photo I gave above had 40 torpedoes in the hold on the shelves!

Quote: Ruslan Sulima

shove the helicopter decks wherever you go, and then on the tank too ...

Now in Kerch, they are building two steamers .... with high sides, how should the BC go there?

[Ruslan Sulima]

Now in Kerch, they are building two steamers .... with high sides, how should the BC go there?

Do you think it should be transported by helicopters?

Here is the hold, and the helicopter, and loading wherever and whatever was.
Absheron.
Well, litter, VO decided not to show the photo ...

[Serg65]

Is there another option?

[Ruslan Sulima]

https://www.kchf.ru/ship/spasat/apsheron.htm
This is Absheron, an old man on pins and needles, whom VO did not let to show.
And on your question, I even thought about how to make ships with more advanced crane equipment? Well, yes, this will entail the need to increase stability, it is necessary to increase the displacement. And what for, let's make an inexpensive ship with a helicopter, let them load it. And to hell with him, that expensive loading will be)

[Serg65]

Quote: Ruslan Sulima

This is Absheron

Here is your Absheron! This is a converted timber truck ... explain to me Ruslay, how the 123-meter elephant will maneuver in the base with ammunition on board? And not just to maneuver, but jewelry to moor to the side of the ship!

Quote: Ruslan Sulima

and maybe make ships with more advanced crane equipment?

Yes, please, here's another class of VTR.

or for example this ...

Choose according to your taste!

[Ruslan Sulima]

Choose according to your taste!

Well, where among the presented undersized?
Absheron, by the way, quite famously moored stern to the wall, the whole thing, probably, in a skillful crew). But that's not what I mean. I don't see any sense in just making semi-ships.

[Serg65]

Quote: Ruslan Sulima

Well, where among the presented undersized?

Their tasks are different!

Quote: Ruslan Sulima

I don't see any sense in just making semi-ships.

It's your problems!

Quote: Ruslan Sulima

Absheron, by the way, was quite famously moored stern to the wall

and board to board? or stern to stern?

[Brylevsky]

and board to board?

No problem with that. My last boat was 129.4 meters long and was normally squeezed into a "hole", about 143 meters long. However, for this we needed two tugs (port rules). Well, an experienced, trained crew ... As usual, "cadres decide everything." There would be shots ...

or stern to stern?

Why the heck? Does this Absheron have a stern hold? You can't tell from the photo ...

[Ruslan Sulima]

No problem with that

What is the conversation! Despite the drunken 90s, we moored quite normally, and we did not see more than one belaying tug. And on Donuzlav, there is still that hemorrhoid, all these procedures with going out to sea and coming home.

[Serg65]

Quote: Brylevsky

No problems

Quote: Brylevsky

True, for this we needed two tugs

Two additional tugs are already a problem!

Quote: Brylevsky

Why the heck? Does this Absheron have a stern hold?

For those who are especially literate, we are not talking about Absheron at all!

[skipper83]

123 meters, yes, an elephant. This is a baby by trade standards, and many more steamers moor to each other and without tugs.

[Serg65]

Quote: shkiper83

This is a baby by trade standards

Do not compare trading standards and BC supply in a ship-filled base!

Quote: shkiper83

much more steamers moor to each other and without tugs.

into the hole between the ships no more than 20 meters?

[skipper83]

Superstructures do not displace water and do not affect displacement. But the length, breadth and draft of the vessel, yes.

[Peak]

Quote: El Dorado

Such ships are really needed, but this project has a minimum carrying capacity, much less than that of a large landing craft.

And there is. And I suspect that there are not many such ships of special construction in stock.
Actually, riveting them in an unmeasured amount is also not reasonable, you need to be guided by the principles of necessity and reasonable sufficiency.

Therefore, the BDK will be in demand in cases of a similar situation in Syria, but commercial cargo ships can and should be involved in such transportation.

The main thing is that all this, its own and under our flag ...

Fortunately, the movement in the USC gives confidence that we will have everything

[Serg65]

Quote: PiK

And I suspect that there are not many such ships of special construction in stock.

Under the Soviet Union, there were only two such class for the entire Black Sea squadron of ATRs!

[isv000]

Rockets for the Karakurt will go to carry ...

[Guru]

The anti-terrorist operation in Syria proved the need for such a class of ships. It is not necessary to involve large landing ships, civilian ships and other dual-use ships.

The vessel from the article is Ice class and in Syria it has nothing to do.

[Eldorado]

But at the same time it will go to serve on the KCHF.

[knn54]

Oleg, Ship d.b UNIVERSAL. Today the Baltic, tomorrow the Barents Sea. Autonomy -30 days, range-3000 miles.

[Guru]

knn54 (Nikolai)
Oleg, Ship d.b UNIVERSAL. Today the Baltic, tomorrow the Barents Sea. Autonomy -30 days, range-3000 miles.

Nikolay agrees, but if it was created only for the World Cup and the Syrian campaigns, then why the ice class. Occasionally, of course, it can go to Syria, but all the registrations will be Northern.

[Peter is not the first]

Nikolay agrees, but if it was created only for the World Cup and the Syrian campaigns, then why the ice class.

Why ice class? And so that in a collision in the Turkish straits with cattle trucks not to sink like a scout "Liman" in 2017. The ice class will allow you to emerge victorious and not sink.

[Guru]

Why ice class? And so that in a collision in the Turkish straits with cattle trucks not to sink like a scout "Liman" in 2017. The ice class will allow you to emerge victorious and not sink.

Like a battering ram

[bayard]

Both vessels have been announced for the Black Sea Fleet and the Baltic Sea Fleet, there are also ice there. And the troughs are too small for the Northern Fleet and the Pacific Fleet - for local errands with supplies.

[Serg65]

Quote: knn54

The anti-terrorist operation in Syria proved the need for this class of ships.

This VTR is not about Syria!

[Xnumx vis]

Without special ships to support the fleet, the fleet cannot fully fulfill the assigned tasks ... These ships are inconspicuous sea workers. You don't often hear about them in the press, and even less will you see video reports about the work of these ships ... The main characteristics of the project 20360M ship: Standard displacement 3205 tons, total 3627 tons. The maximum length is 77,8 meters, the maximum width is 15,8 meters, the draft is 4,0 meters. Economic speed 12 knots. Cruising range 3000 miles. Autonomy (in terms of provisions) 30 days.

Marine weapons transport "Gennady Dmitriev" (building number 01551): According to the order of the Commander-in-Chief of the Navy dated April 17, 2017, the ship was given the actual name "Gennady Dmitriev". On May 05, the groundbreaking ceremony took place. It was removed from the boathouse on March 19, 2021. He will serve in the Black Sea Fleet, home port - Sevastopol.

[APASUS]

Marine transport weapons project 20360M
Handsome! The author of the picture was too lazy to find a suitable one?

[Guru]

A beautiful ship will turn out.

[garri-lin]

I misunderstood something or his main purpose is to provide Warships at sea? Transfer ammunition on board?

[Serg65]

Quote: garri-lin

his main purpose is to provide combat ships at sea? Transfer ammunition on board?

Quite right, the transport takes up the supply of combat ships in the base and in the open sea.

Here is one of his predecessors in Sevastopol!

[garri-lin]

Thank you. So I understood correctly.

[Brylevsky]

in the base and on the high seas

On the high seas - only in calm weather. In fresh weather at sea, cargo booms working "on the phone" are used to transfer cargo. Because when working with arrows in pairs, the load on the pendant is not very mobile relative to the vessel; on the crane it will not work: the cargo on the wave will "dance" together with the ship and the crane, hence the risk of damaging it during loading or unloading. I myself have worked for many years on ships with various crane equipment, up to and including heavyweight. And my experience says that the maximum wave height at which safe off-road unloading with our cranes is still possible is 0,5 - 0,7 m.At the same time, expeditionary refrigerators, which take products from fishermen on the open sea, are also loading devices with booms are normally overloaded even at a wave height of up to 1,0 - 1,5 m. It happened that more, but this largely depends on the skill of the winches and the speed of the cargo winches. I repeat: cargo operations by crane on the open sea, it is only in calm weather, or something like that. Otherwise, then you have to collect shells all over the deck ...

[Serg65]

Quote: Brylevsky

I repeat: cargo operations by crane on the open sea, it is only in calm weather, or something like that

Hence the helicopter on the VTR tank!
Yes, and no one disputes loading and unloading with excitement of no more than 3 balls!

[Brylevsky]

Hence the helicopter on the VTR tank!

The helicopter is not there for loading and unloading operations. Look carefully at the figure, which shows the view of the ship from above: there the helipad is in the "dead zone" of the crane, - the mast interferes, it forms a "dead sector" for the crane. It turns out that the helicopter will not bring anything really heavy to this ship, and will not take it away from it: there will be nothing to load it with, and no one. How much will the sailors carry in their arms? Boxes with ammunition zinc, no more ... Add to this that carrying heavy objects while rolling is dangerous, to say the least. I see there are four cutouts in the front of the superstructure, they look like doors, and there are no coamings visible: maybe this was done on purpose? Perhaps this was done so that through them they could roll out - roll up cargo platform carts? Well then, they would have already drawn the guide rails ... otherwise, on the pitch, these carts will fly overboard to hell. Or maybe there are coamings after all, I just didn't see them ... then everything will be bad with helicopter loading and unloading: the load will have to be carried on hand. Because there will be nothing else to take him.

[Serg65]

Quote: Brylevsky

The helicopter is not there for loading and unloading operations.

Have you ever even watched a helicopter work during loading and unloading operations? Or do you assume that the helicopter is a wagon and should be loaded with a crane ???

[Lontus]

No information content !!
Even the displacement was not indicated.
I will do the work for the author of the "news":

The main characteristics of the ship of the project 20360M:

Displacement standard 3205 tons, full 3627 tons.
Overall length 77,8 meters, maximum width 15,8 meters,
draft 4,0 meters. Economic speed 12 knots.
Cruising range 3000 miles.
Autonomy (in terms of provisions) 30 days.

[Synoid]

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[Brylevsky]

Quote: Serg65

Have you ever even watched a helicopter work during loading and unloading operations?

How do you propose to unload the helicopter on this ship? And ship.