China's new experiment: 20-barreled artillery mount

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Presentation slide with photos from the assembly shop

China continues unusual and amazing weapons experiments. An experimental artillery unit with a rotating block of 20 small-caliber barrels was recently built and tested. So far, very little is known about it, but the available data allow us to draw conclusions and predictions.

Secret Project


The existence of an experimental gun mount became known a few days ago. In one of the blogs of the Chinese platform Sina Weibo, two slides from a presentation on a promising project were published. They included five photographs from the assembly shop and from the landfill, as well as a few lines of text about the progress and success of the project.



The name of the installation is not given. The developer of the project and the timing of its creation also remain unknown. Perhaps the project was developed by the 713th Institute, which has extensive experience in the field of multi-barrel ship systems. The project was ready no later than December last year, and in January an unnamed enterprise produced a prototype.

According to the slides, three stages of firing tests have already been carried out, the site for which was "Base 051". The first shooting took place at the end of January. Within eight bursts, a rate of fire was obtained at the level of XX090 rounds per minute. At the end of March, the next three volleys were fired at a rate of XX376 rds / min. In mid-April, tests were carried out for the duration of a continuous queue: X00 shots were fired without stopping.

China's new experiment: 20-barreled artillery mount

Experimental look


The published photographs demonstrate the general appearance of the experimental gun mount and allow us to determine some of its features. At the same time, it is clear that in its current form, the experimental product can only be used at the landfill and only for testing the units. For practical use, new units and systems are required.

Externally, the installation resembles a gun turret, which did not receive all the casings and armor. It is made on the basis of a rectangular platform with large onboard units, between which an artillery unit is suspended. The breech units are large in size, which is why they take up space not only in the center of the installation, but also inside the side casings.

The 20-barreled cannon is placed inside a typical farmhouse. The front part of this structure protrudes beyond the "tower" and serves as a supporting device for the barrel block. The breech, ammunition, etc. are placed in the back. In this case, the exact layout of the installation is unknown and unclear. In particular, it is still impossible to understand exactly where and how the ammunition load of several hundred shells was placed.

The main element of the installation is a cannon with a rotating block of 20 barrels. Estimated caliber no more than 30 mm. Automation design, barrel drive, etc. unknown. At the same time, one of the main features of the gun can be seen in the available photos. The shot is carried out simultaneously from two barrels, occupying the upper and lower positions. Accordingly, for a complete revolution of the block, each barrel manages to carry out two reloading cycles and fire two shots. The gun uses natural air cooling of the barrels.


Brief test report and shooting photos

For test firing, the installation was mounted on a pedestal. Possibility of pickup is probably missing. Such capabilities are not required to determine the general characteristics of the gun and to develop its design. Power and control cables are openly connected to the unit.

Features and capabilities


Apparently, within the framework of the new project, China is trying to create a new ship installation to combat air and surface targets. This assumption is supported by the characteristic appearance of the experimental product, its declared characteristics and possible applications.

In addition, it should be recalled that the Chinese industry has already created gun mounts with an increased number of barrels. So, in the project H / PJ-12 or "Type 730" they switched to seven 30-mm barrels, and on the H / PJ-11 / "1130" product they used 11 at once. Both such installations simultaneously fire only from one barrel.

The exact characteristics of the gun were not disclosed. From the presentation it follows that the rate of fire exceeds 10 thousand rds / min, and the limiting parameters are unknown. It is easy to calculate that a block of barrels makes at least 4-5 revolutions per second, and for each barrel there is at least 8-10 rounds / sec. However, the technical rate of fire may be higher - which changes other parameters accordingly.


Simultaneous firing from two barrels is clearly visible

It is easy to see that the load on an individual barrel during firing remains at an acceptable level. For example, the Russian six-barreled AK-630 installation with a rate of fire of 5 thousand rds / min. each barrel has only 14 shots / sec. With the same load on the barrel, the new Chinese gun will be able to show a rate of about 16,8 thousand rds / min. In addition, the load on the bolt portion of each of the barrels remains at an acceptable level.

Thus, the main ideas of the project become clear. Using 20 barrels at once, the Chinese gunsmiths were able to increase the rate of fire of the entire system, but saved themselves from the need to develop new barrels with greater resistance to heat and mechanical stress. It was also possible to do with only air cooling - the increase in its efficiency is facilitated by the high rotation speed of the barrel block.

In the context of the new Chinese project, one should recall the Russian AK-630M-2 "Duet" gun mount. In this sample, the task of increasing the rate of fire was solved by connecting two six-barreled machine guns. This approach made it possible to do without the development of a fundamentally new weapon, but limited the maximum rate of fire of the complex to the sum of the characteristics of the two assault rifles.

New Challenges


Obviously, the 20-barreled cannon still exists only as a prototype on a simplified installation with limited functions. In the near future, the developers will have to complete testing and fine-tuning, which will allow us to move on to the process of creating a full-fledged combat-ready ship installation. At this stage, gunsmiths will have to face new challenges and questions.


A promising weapon will require a new, more durable installation. She has to experience the effect of increased recoil, and the guidance drives must cope with the large gyroscopic moment of the barrel block. Perhaps a tower installation for a new cannon can be created using ready-made components borrowed from existing products. It should be expected that there will be increased requirements for carrier ships.

The issue of ammunition supply is to be resolved, and the volume of the store is of particular importance. For example, later modifications of Type 730 installations have a ready-made ammunition load of 1000 rounds, which is enough for about 14 seconds. shooting. A new gun for the same duration of fire needs stores for at least 2-2,5 thousand shells. It will not be possible to place such ammunition in the volume of the tower, which will require some structures for the underdecks.

The least difficult issue is the creation of fire control systems. On the model of existing installations, a promising one can be equipped with a radar sight and an optical-electronic station, as well as a remote operator's console. Fundamental innovations that are particularly complex are not required in this area.

It cannot be ruled out that the ship's gun mount will later become the basis for a land-based air defense system. The tower and other units can be installed on a wheeled chassis, providing high mobility. Such principles have already been implemented in the LD-2000 project based on the H / PJ-12 installation.


Serial installation H / PJ-11 with 11-barreled machine gun

From experimentation to rearmament


China pays special attention to the development of its naval forces and their armaments. The latest project of the super-fast 20-barreled cannon is another step in this direction - and such a step is extremely interesting and promising. The gun has reached field tests, during which it already confirms its performance and shows record performance.

The further fate of the project remains uncertain, but there are reasons for optimism. The industry is already gaining valuable experience in the field of artillery, and the navy and ground forces can count on obtaining new highly effective models. However, the real future of the project and the whole direction so far depends on the progress of the current work. Time and new information leaks will show whether the set objectives will be solved.
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  2. 0
    28 May 2021 05: 28
    At least two such bandura should be placed on a ship, although the Chinese economy is quite capable of overpowering this. But in practice, 30 mm is the minimum caliber for completing an anti-ship missile, and here the rate of fire can decide everything.
    1. +5
      28 May 2021 05: 44
      And I was amused by the author's suggestion in the possible creation of an air defense installation on a wheeled chassis on the basis of this bandura. Although they are Chinese, they can do that. wink
      1. Mwg
        +1
        28 May 2021 06: 12
        "Although the Chinese they are so they can do that" - I understand that it was a joke, but how are you not far from the truth)))))))))))))))))
      2. +3
        28 May 2021 06: 56
        They made the 7 barrel, which is pictured above, on a wheeled chassis. Something like MZKT 8x8. What to put the 20 barrel on?
        1. D16
          +1
          28 May 2021 07: 45
          If only on the chassis of a mining dump truck. But there will be a place to store shells and spent cartridges. laughing
      3. +3
        28 May 2021 07: 53
        They not only can but have done with the current shipborne version - a mobile anti-aircraft complex. For 11 trunks. And even a version with missiles (a la Chinese armor).

        1. 0
          28 May 2021 08: 06
          11 trunks - feather test .....
      4. 0
        28 May 2021 11: 30
        Quote: Sergey_G_M
        amused the author's suggestion in the possible creation of an air defense installation on a wheeled chassis on the basis of this bandura.

        Well, and what about? The British used "trackless" armored trains in the war with the Boers at the beginning of the last century! Here and here you can: on one platform - art installation ... in the rest of the "trailers" - ammunition! fellow
    2. 0
      28 May 2021 07: 33
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      At least two such bandura should be placed on the ship.

      And so they do ... For example, NATO's "Myriad" complex

      At the end of the last century, the Italians were puzzled how to deal with Soviet supersonic anti-ship missiles (and, in the long term, with hypersonic anti-ship missiles!) ... As a result, they came to the conclusion that it was necessary for this ... a lot of barrels + rate of fire! fellow
      1. 0
        28 May 2021 08: 02
        Quote: Nikolaevich I
        The Italians at the end of the last century were puzzled how to deal with Soviet supersonic anti-ship missiles (and in the future, with hypersonic anti-ship missiles!)
        You do not understand, not two blocks of barrels, but two installations.
        1. +1
          28 May 2021 09: 01
          Quote: Vladimir_2U
          You do not understand, not two blocks of barrels, but two installations.

          Yes, I understood ... but you can do it anyway ...!
          1. 0
            28 May 2021 09: 15
            Quote: Nikolaevich I
            Yes, I understood ... but you can do it anyway ...!

            So the firing sector will be much smaller, do not. )))
      2. 0
        28 May 2021 08: 04
        The Italians make a serial analogue of the "Duet" who spioneered whom - I don't know ...
    3. +2
      28 May 2021 11: 51
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      You should put at least two such bandura on the ship,

      Mdaaaa ...! Now I see: "Everything flows, everything changes!" that the complex was created as part of a concept test of a new method of dealing with supersonic and hypersonic anti-ship missiles! When the task was not to conduct aimed fire at the anti-ship missiles, but it was supposed to "fill up" a certain space with shells, in which the anti-ship missiles should appear! Fir trees! How they began to "criticize" me then! One of the "critical" arguments: where on the ship to place so much ammunition !? Hence the "summary": all this is not real! Bullshit! ... And now a different "picture"! "Nobody" is outraged ... it is even proposed to put at least (!), 2 (!) Installations of even greater "trunk"!
  3. +3
    28 May 2021 05: 39
    For example, later modifications of Type 730 installations have a ready-made ammunition load of 1000 rounds, which is enough for about 14 seconds. shooting. A new gun for the same duration of fire needs magazines for at least 2-2,5 thousand shells.

    The author does not understand a little the purpose of the rapid-fire art installations on the ship. They are mainly needed to intercept anti-ship missiles that have broken through the missile air defense. Nobody shoots at the target for 14 seconds, they shoot in bursts of 2-6 seconds, creating a "density" of shells in the zone (volume) of the calculated interception point. A high rate of fire will increase the "density" of the cloud of shells at the point of interception, while the length of the queue may decrease.
    1. +4
      28 May 2021 06: 21
      Quote: Sergey_G_M
      The author does not understand a little the purpose of the rapid-fire art installations on the ship. They are mainly needed to intercept anti-ship missiles that have broken through the missile air defense. Nobody shoots at the target for 14 seconds, they shoot in bursts of 2-6 seconds, creating a "density" of shells in the zone (volume) of the calculated interception point.
      The author may be, in principle, all the same, but with a rate of fire of 10000 v / m, even 2 seconds of fire is 320 (three hundred and twenty) shells, three interceptions (and not one hundred percent) and that's it, BK tyutyu.
      1. 0
        28 May 2021 06: 44
        Well, in the new installation, it is quite obvious that the ammunition supply is carried out through two "sleeves" and the ammunition load will be larger.
        By the way, the Type 730 launcher has 640 rounds of ammunition instead of 1000 (in one magazine), the Type 1130 launcher has 1280 in two magazines located on both sides of the launcher (right and left).
        https://topwar.ru/63769-korabelnye-zenitnye-artilleriyskie-kompleksy-type-730-i-type-1130-kitay.html
        Those. with all the desire to bring the ammunition to 2-2,5 thousand, it is technically difficult and is not yet coming.
        1. 0
          28 May 2021 06: 51
          Quote: Sergey_G_M
          Well, in the new installation, it is quite obvious that the ammunition supply is carried out through two "sleeves" and the ammunition load will be larger.

          Then what are the claims to the author?
      2. -1
        28 May 2021 06: 57
        Quote: Vladimir_2U
        BK tyutyu.


        Where bye-bye? There, everything is fed to the feed augers by the conveyor. No ribbons or shops. If the limiter is broken off, it will shoot until the heated barrels are bent.
        1. 0
          28 May 2021 07: 06
          Quote: sergo1914
          Where bye-bye? There, everything is fed to the feed augers by the conveyor. No ribbons or shops. If the limiter is broken off, it will shoot until the heated barrels are bent.
          Well, if there is in the turret, then okay 6-9 interceptions, but if not? But the claim was not this, but the seconds of fire.
          1. +5
            28 May 2021 07: 24
            Quote: Vladimir_2U
            Quote: sergo1914
            Where bye-bye? There, everything is fed to the feed augers by the conveyor. No ribbons or shops. If the limiter is broken off, it will shoot until the heated barrels are bent.
            Well, if there is in the turret, then okay 6-9 interceptions, but if not? But the claim was not this, but the seconds of fire.


            All this does not last for hours. Intercepted - good. Didn't intercept -… BC is no longer needed.
            1. 0
              28 May 2021 07: 26
              Quote: sergo1914
              All this does not last for hours. Intercepted - good. Didn't intercept -… BC is no longer needed.

              Missile defense can be self-defense, and maybe warrants, and there can be more than one attack. Well, 20 seconds of fire is 3200 shells, and there is no smell here.
            2. 0
              28 May 2021 14: 30
              That's for sure, modern naval battles are fleeting ... 50/50, either you or you
      3. D16
        +2
        28 May 2021 08: 16
        BK tyutyu.

        There and in addition to the BC, jambs go in jambs. From the total weight of this fool, to the gyroscope, which must be turned when firing. Rotating block of 20 barrels per pound of raisins lol ... You can also recall the increase in the angular velocity of the barrels and dispersion when firing at long distances.
        Truly "Duet" rules laughing .
        1. +2
          28 May 2021 08: 26
          Quote: D16
          You can also recall the increase in the angular velocity of the trunks.
          Yes, no, hardly, because the diameter of the block has increased, so I think the angular velocity with a 6-barrel is comparable, but 2 * 6 is probably better than 1 * 20, I agree here.
          1. D16
            +2
            28 May 2021 09: 40
            Not correctly expressed. The drum diameter has increased, the drum rotation frequency has increased. The spread of shells will inevitably increase. What was even useful for the six-barreled air defense gun, for this monster will turn into an overexpenditure of shells.
  4. 0
    28 May 2021 06: 03
    Interestingly, in Gatling systems, one barrel fires in turn, while in others there is a reloading process. As with this process with this system. Thank you.
    1. +3
      28 May 2021 10: 10
      Here it is exactly the same. One (upper) barrel of the block shoots, another 9 located from it (clockwise for example) is the process of reloading and preparing for a shot. At the same time, the second (lower) barrel fires, and a similar process takes place in the remaining barrels following it.
      Cranking and again a simultaneous shot from the upper and lower barrels.
      Those. the block of barrels is like two working according to the standard Gatling scheme, but combined into one. The rate of fire is increasing, but the payback is the increase in the size of such a unit.
      1. +1
        28 May 2021 16: 39
        Volodimer (Volodimer) It's not so much about the rate of fire as about the accuracy at the maximum-maximum range and the survivability of the stops and the stabilization system. The main advantage of such a scheme is the mutual compensation of loads from the upper and lower wellbores.
        1. 0
          28 May 2021 17: 34
          The mutual compensation of loads when firing from the upper and lower barrel is good, but it seems to me that the systems responsible for guiding this entire hefty block of barrels, both horizontally and vertically, will experience such loads that "the game is not worth the candle." As a result accuracy at the maximum-maximum range will not be. But a high rate of fire and density of fire is guaranteed.
          1. 0
            29 May 2021 02: 43
            the rate of fire and density can be provided with much simpler and more effective methods, for example, increasing the barrels in the turrets and increasing the number of turrets. The last point is generally the most effective against anti-ship missiles operating in flock mode, and it is orders of magnitude more effective than modifying a gun / turret.
            1. 0
              29 May 2021 05: 33
              Here I am about the same, it is not entirely clear why there was a "fence". Alexey gave an example of Metal Storm. Another way of solving similar problems, although it is also a peculiar thing.
  5. Mwg
    +5
    28 May 2021 06: 09
    People! Has anyone wondered why China is moving towards increasing the number of barrels for rapid-fire guns? There were 11 barrels, now 20 ... And they cannot solve the problem with the selection of steel and geometry for the barrels of rapid-fire artillery! They cannot weld the steel they need !!! Geometry cannot be calculated !!!
    Does anyone else believe that the Chinese have invented some kind of virus?
    1. +1
      28 May 2021 22: 17
      Quote: MVG
      People! Has anyone wondered why China is moving towards increasing the number of barrels for rapid-fire guns? There were 11 barrels, now 20 ... And they cannot solve the problem with the selection of steel and geometry for the barrels of rapid-fire artillery! They cannot weld the steel they need !!! Geometry cannot be calculated !!!
      Does anyone else believe that the Chinese have invented some kind of virus?

      The remark is correct, but the Chinese live by "borrowing" from specialists. technologies, production. It is possible that "by chance" they created the virus.
  6. +1
    28 May 2021 06: 17
    the range is unlikely to increase, but it will be necessary to rotate this piano quickly in order to hit at short distances. it turns out cumbersome
  7. 0
    28 May 2021 06: 42
    More like a concept. Bk, as I understand it, there should be dimensionless. In my opinion, all this is overkill, you can make 80 barrels with 3 charges, but what, the salvo is even bigger.
    But otherwise, the Chinese are great. We are waiting for their first flight to the moon and Mars.
    1. 0
      28 May 2021 07: 17
      Quote: TerraSandera
      But otherwise, the Chinese are great. We are waiting for their first flight to the moon and Mars.

      Involuntarily, 2 options come to mind: 1. the first Chinese flight to the moon and Mars; and Sasha is waiting for them with a bottle of moonshine and pickles ... 2. Sasha appears on the "moon and Mars", and Tama is already a Chinese hostel with a mini bar in the room ... there is a place to sleep! PS That is, I'm trying to understand why Sasha is so happy, expecting "their first flight to the moon and Mars"? what
      1. +1
        28 May 2021 07: 24
        Simple human curiosity and interest. And they will be able to (we send our friendly greetings to Rogozin)
        Didn't you like my nickname? Well sorry, not a BMW so everyone likes it :-)
    2. +5
      28 May 2021 11: 10
      Quote: TerraSandera
      In my opinion, all this is overkill, you can make 80 barrels with 3 charges, but what, the salvo is even larger.

      And as a result, we come to Metal Storm. smile
  8. +3
    28 May 2021 06: 54
    ... For test firing, the installation was mounted on a pedestal. Possibility of pickup is probably missing. Such capabilities are not required to determine the general characteristics of the gun and to develop its design. Power and control cables are openly connected to the unit.


    Cables, just for electric drives. The swinging part and the possibility of rotation of the pedestal are visible, as they say, with the naked eye. What do you mean "not required"? The most important characteristic of the installation is the time it takes to transfer from one position to another. They are usually twisted by 90, 120 or 180. Depending on the design of the polygon bollard. We still had concrete blocks on the rear hemisphere. Just in case.

    PS In a package of six barrels you will get bored to change them. And I had to change often. And here is 20. And even ban. My shoulders ached from some pictures.

    PS Author, well, you don't understand the topic - better not write.
  9. +1
    28 May 2021 07: 30
    We need to present the prototype to Comrade Kim so that he can more effectively pursue his personnel policy.
  10. 0
    28 May 2021 07: 42
    The paths of the Chinese are inscrutable. Let's see what happens. Although I think already smacks of gigantomania.
    1. +1
      28 May 2021 08: 33
      Well, so they build a fleet at the level of the rest of the world together. 3 UDC, 4 - will be a UAV aircraft carrier. 3 AB have already started to collect actively.



      Judging by the fact that the main sections have been docked, by autumn there will already be a deck and an island.
      1. +2
        28 May 2021 08: 59
        I mean that the possible advantages of such multilateralism are doubtful and the disadvantages are huge. As for me, the Duo AK 630 2 looks more logical. The same 2 working barrels for the installation.
        1. 0
          28 May 2021 10: 24
          It all depends on whether the game will be worth the candle. Even if some phenomenal rate of fire is achieved, then what will you have to pay for it. The cumbersomeness is already obvious. Accuracy? Ammunition? It also seems to me that the Duet option is preferable.
          1. 0
            28 May 2021 10: 44
            In principle, the Gatling system is so good that you can achieve a high rate of fire without greatly overloading a separate barrel. The calculation of the possible rate of fire is given in the text. The result is rather big, but is it necessary? Why such a density of fire? To increase the likelihood of interception? Or to guaranteed to knock off course a heavy and high-speed anti-ship missile such as Granite or even Zircon.
  11. +1
    28 May 2021 08: 55
    Imagine the "kickback" when shooting!
    Yes, it can be used as a powder accelerator, installed at the stern winked
    1. +4
      28 May 2021 11: 11
      Quote: prior
      Imagine the "kickback" when shooting!
      Yes, it can be used as a powder accelerator, installed at the stern winked

  12. +5
    28 May 2021 11: 23
    I learn classical Chinese :)
  13. +3
    28 May 2021 11: 31
    Thus, the main ideas of the project become clear. Using 20 barrels at once, the Chinese gunsmiths were able to increase the rate of fire of the entire system, but saved themselves from the need to develop new barrels with greater resistance to heat and mechanical stress. It was also possible to do with only air cooling - the increase in its efficiency is facilitated by the high rotation speed of the barrel block.

    It is also necessary to take into account the greater moment of inertia of a larger number of barrels located at a greater distance from the axis of rotation - that is, such a system will take longer to reach the maximum rate of fire than interlocked from 2 blocks of barrels - as an example of the AK-630m-2 duet

  14. +2
    28 May 2021 12: 34
    Nowadays, multi-barreled super-duper rapid-fire monsters are not needed at all.
    Single barrel of a larger caliber with a projectile of a programmable explosion distance
    and more efficient and simpler and lighter and more compact and cheaper.
    1. 0
      29 May 2021 04: 59
      It depends on what to blame. For anti-ship missiles with an armored warhead, the fragments may not be enough. At one time, the P-15 withstood two close ruptures of the missile defense system and drowned the same Monsoon.
    2. -1
      31 May 2021 20: 31
      Quote: axxmanm
      Single barrel ...
      and more efficient and simpler and lighter and more compact and cheaper.

      And more useless ...
      Have already tried - until you crush the warhead of an approaching anti-ship missile system with tungsten BOPS - zero sense.
  15. +1
    28 May 2021 15: 33
    "Within eight bursts, a rate of fire was obtained at the level of XX090 rounds per minute. At the end of March, the next three volleys were fired at a rate of XX376 rounds per minute. In mid-April, tests for the duration of a continuous burst were carried out: X00 rounds were fired without stopping."
    How much is this?
  16. +1
    28 May 2021 15: 55
    It is, of course, yes, but it seems like not ...
    The feasibility of such an installation is questionable. A block of 20 barrels is several times heavier than a block of 6 barrels and even two 6-barrel blocks. But the greater the mass of the rotating block, the more difficult it is to rotate it in other planes. Moreover, the dependence there seems to be not quadratic. And this is a multiple increase in the power of the swing drives, which means the weight of the drives and the entire installation. The boyars are summing up ...
  17. 0
    29 May 2021 18: 41
    Why the heck? A volcano with 6 barrels and it spits out a suitcase of ammunition per second, why the heck is even more?
    1. 0
      2 June 2021 06: 07
      With the advent of supersonic anti-cruise cruise missiles, the time of their stay in a certain entrance window has decreased, therefore, in this window, it is necessary to increase the density of projectiles, in addition, it is necessary to achieve not only a single drop, but also the destruction of the glider, because the kinetic energy of a knocked-out rocket is quite high to cause serious damage to modern fragile ships without even exploding, but simply by causing large-scale destruction and fire from the remnants of fuel. So in these fleeting matters, the rate of fire is never superfluous. No wonder we have long ago appeared all sorts of "Duets", "Daggers", "Palms" ...
  18. 0
    2 June 2021 05: 59
    In this thing, it would be appropriate to put two Equally distant firing barrel (in the classic Gatling block - one). Then there will be enough power for the rotation drive (if it is of the gas type), the rate of fire will be doubled, the load on the barrel will be less than in the AK-630, with a synchronous shot it is easier to achieve balance. If you look at photo # 4, you can see smoke escaping from the upper and lower trunks, which suggests that this idea was implemented in the gland.
    1. 0
      2 June 2021 17: 26
      Quote: Ilya_Nsk
      smoke can be seen escaping from the upper and lower trunks, which suggests ...

      The article clearly states that the shooting is carried out from two trunks - upper and lower.
      Be careful hi
  19. 0
    11 June 2021 05: 55
    Quite an acceptable thing for the coast guard border ships to fight the ships of smugglers, poachers, etc.
    1. 0
      30 June 2021 09: 29
      If the warhead of the anti-ship missile system will be a blank in the form of a tungsten carbide cone, then hitting it with several 30mm shells can neither destroy it nor significantly change the flight trajectory
  20. 0
    15 August 2021 09: 29
    Our two Duos are capable of firing 20 thousand shells per minute, why build 20 barreled monsters?
  21. 0
    23 August 2021 12: 02
    Well, not only the Chinese suffered from gigantomania)))
  22. 0
    25 August 2021 23: 51
    With such an increase in the diameter of the landing of the barrels, how effective will the defensive fire be, in how many seconds of advance it is necessary to start spending ammo, in order, for example, to inflict damage on a hypersonic missile. Again, I wonder what sector this machine will be able to cover in the course of firing, the PCRs fly up to the victim either very low, or with a slide, at maximum speed. I remember someone from the national interest of D. Simes calculated that at hypersonic speeds a standard warhead with TNT is not needed, a box filled with concrete enough to cause irreparable damage to the ship, the kinetics is prohibitive, respectively, whether critical damage can be caused to the rocket and at what permissible range ... I believe that the Chinese guys have this topic because of all the well-known problems in materials science, apparently all of their thefts, buying up on the vine never helps.
    1. 0
      9 February 2022 23: 35
      And who said that a hypersonic missile hits a target at hypersonic speed? It is she who flies high, high, then she is hypersonic. And when approaching the target, so that her radar could capture the target, it becomes supersonic.
      1. 0
        9 February 2022 23: 40
        The dagger develops maximum speed precisely when approaching the target, and, in general, what is the point of a high-speed object if it starts to slow down in front of the target. What is the logic in order to make it more convenient to shoot down?
        1. 0
          10 February 2022 00: 31
          The dagger develops max speed when approaching the target. where is this gem from? ))) Share.
          The dagger develops maximum speed at an altitude of 20 km. When approaching the target, the speed of any rocket drops, when it enters the atmosphere, the rocket slows down. Meaning - a rocket at hypersonic speed overcomes the distance to the target faster, although it glows on radars like a New Year's garland (hypersound eliminates stealth).
          The point is to slow down when approaching the target - on hypersonic radar, the rocket will not be able to capture the target. Yes, turn on and work normally.
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            12 February 2022 21: 09
            This is obvious, the rocket is aeroballistic, it accelerates when diving from above and reaches a maximum speed of 3400 km / h when approaching the target, cruising speed of 2500 km / h at an altitude of 30 km, Russian newspaper from 13.03.18/XNUMX/XNUMX. It glows only in the IR range, and the rest of the plasma masks. Now I am waiting for confirmation from you of your fabrications about the performance characteristics of the dagger and the principle of use.
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              13 February 2022 18: 19
              The Russian newspaper is, of course, a powerful argument))) There are only professionals there !!!
              Aeroballistic missile - a missile that flies along a ballistic trajectory to a certain height, and then the flight occurs through the use of aerodynamic devices.
              About the speed of 3400 km, h when approaching the target - only yours + journalistic fabrications.
              Plasma is not a camouflage tool, it is clearly visible on radars and vice versa, it greatly interferes with the operation of missile guidance tools.
              Any celestial body, entering the dense layers of the atmosphere, slows down. Like a rocket, having exhausted its fuel reserves in flight, it loses speed as it descends. It cannot increase it - the higher density of the atmosphere into which it enters interferes.
              So you, with the "Russian newspaper", would teach physics at school ...)))

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