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Foreign Minister Lavrov: It is not for Kravchuk to decide where and how the contact group on Donbass will work

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Foreign Minister Lavrov: It is not for Kravchuk to decide where and how the contact group on Donbass will work

The first president of Ukraine, Leonid Kravchuk, who is the head of the Ukrainian delegation to the Trilateral Contact Group on resolving the situation in Donbass, again raised the issue of the need to transfer the negotiating platform from Minsk to another country. According to Kravchuk, the current situation (with the forced landing of the Ryanair aircraft in Minsk) “once again proves that Minsk can no longer remain a negotiating platform”.


Leonid Kravchuk:

The negotiation process needs to be postponed from there. Where to? I believe there can be neutral countries. For example Switzerland or Finland.

Earlier, the head of the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry Dmitry Kuleba also spoke out for the postponement of negotiations within the TGC, stating that "it is impossible to negotiate in Minsk, since Belarus is drifting towards Russia." It is strange that with all the "drift" of Alexander Lukashenko, the country he has led for more than a quarter of a century will never reach the "end point of the drift." And as soon as the President of the Republic of Belarus feels a weakening of pressure from the West, his rhetoric towards the Russian Federation again acquires a very harsh connotation.

Leonid Kravchuk's statement was commented on by Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov. He is quoted by TASS.

According to Sergei Lavrov, it is not for Kravchuk to decide where and how the contact group on Donbass will conduct its work. The head of Russian diplomacy recalled that the decision on the Minsk negotiation platform was made at the general summit and approved by the UN Security Council.
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  1. NIKN
    NIKN 27 May 2021 17: 08
    +8
    For example Switzerland or Finland.
    To Japan or Antarctica, business trips are cooler there.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 27 May 2021 17: 30
      +4
      Quote: NIKNN
      To Japan or Antarctica, business trips are cooler there.

      To a desert island, and not to let the Sumerians out of there until all the points are signed.
      1. For example
        For example 27 May 2021 17: 42
        +11
        kravchuk can go straight to hell. Let there agree with the devils about their existence.
        1. frruc
          frruc 27 May 2021 21: 06
          +2
          only the grave will fix this hunchback.
      2. Peak
        Peak 27 May 2021 17: 42
        +6
        It would be better to be silent, old Bandera. By your babbling, you can only speed up the process when the fate of Donbass is finally decided.
        And it was solved without Ukraine, and taking into account its interests, since it itself, by that time, may no longer exist ...
        1. Xnumx vis
          Xnumx vis 27 May 2021 19: 32
          +1
          .
          Quote: PiK
          It would be better to be silent, old Bandera.
          wassat This master's greatness cannot be silent ... Verbal diarrhea ...--- "I believe that there can be neutral countries. For example, Switzerland or Finland", and even better the neutral waters of the Arctic Ocean .. On any uninhabited island .. Yes there and forget the ukrodelegation hi
          1. abrakadabre
            abrakadabre 27 May 2021 23: 43
            +3
            and even better is the neutral waters of the Arctic Ocean .. On any uninhabited island.
            In the Arctic Ocean, of the uninhabited islets, there are only icebergs and ice fields. Because everything that is rocky has long been distributed there and is not neutral. I like your proposal.
      3. aleks neym_2
        aleks neym_2 27 May 2021 19: 02
        +5
        You, dear, humorist: they will sign that, they will sign (they have already signed a lot of things ...), but WHO WILL BE FULFILLED is, most likely, for the near future, representatives of the odious country LIMPO, where there are many, many, like there. .. the Honduras ...
      4. Ruslan Sulima
        Ruslan Sulima 27 May 2021 21: 19
        +2
        and not to release the Sumerians from there until all the points are signed.

        Yes, they signed it ...
        But they don't want to do it ...
        One more step towards civilization ...
        He understands that everything is over, one country is not and will not be ...
        It sucks, probably, to feel like the first president of a country created on fragments, realizing that the shard you grabbed is falling apart, and you can't do anything, just la-la.
        Citizens of Ukraine, be honest with yourself, with whom are you building the future?
        1. Grits
          Grits 28 May 2021 06: 06
          +1
          Quote: Ruslan Sulima
          Citizens of ukraine, be honest with yourself, with whom you are building the future

          I'm not sure if they are building anything. Rather, they are eating up the remnants of the Ukrainian SSR and destroying what can still be destroyed.
      5. abrakadabre
        abrakadabre 27 May 2021 23: 40
        +1
        and not to release the Sumerians from there until all the points are signed.
        What's the point? Signing something they sign. But they don't.
      6. alexniko77
        alexniko77 28 May 2021 09: 33
        0
        not to release even when they sign ...
    2. knn54
      knn54 27 May 2021 17: 44
      +1
      At one time, two PROSPECTED supporters of Gulen were extradited from Ukraine to Turkey.
      No one has imposed sanctions (with the West's negative towards Erdogan) against Kiev.
      1. Peak
        Peak 27 May 2021 17: 53
        +2
        Quote: knn54
        At one time, two PROSPECTED supporters of Gulen were extradited from Ukraine to Turkey.
        No one has imposed sanctions (with the West's negative towards Erdogan) against Kiev.

        It's different .

        You need to understand! yes
    3. Thrifty
      Thrifty 27 May 2021 17: 44
      +2
      Kravchuk with the kuleba needs to be transferred to the cemetery, they are tired of their stupidity worse than a bitter radish! The fool is crying over them, and they are still trying to impose their own opinion! !!
    4. 1976AG
      1976AG 27 May 2021 18: 14
      +1
      Quote: NIKNN
      For example Switzerland or Finland.
      To Japan or Antarctica, business trips are cooler there.

      Business travelers stayed 300 rubles a day
      1. Xnumx vis
        Xnumx vis 27 May 2021 19: 37
        +2
        Quote: 1976AG
        Quote: NIKNN
        For example Switzerland or Finland.
        To Japan or Antarctica, business trips are cooler there.

        Business travelers stayed 300 rubles a day

        Overseas travel allowances start from $ 54 per day !! Per diem in US dollars
        When traveling from Russia to the territory of another country
        When employees travel abroad. institutions of the Russian Federation within the territory of the country where the foreign is located. institution
        Abkhazia
        54
        38
        Australia
        60
        42
        Austria
        66
        46
        Azerbaijan
        57
        40
        Albania
        67
        47
        Algeria
        65
        46
        Angola
        80
        56
        Andorra
        62
        43
        Antigua and Barbuda
        69
        48
        Argentina
        64
        45
        Armenia
        57
        40
        Afghanistan
        80 -------------- https: //buhguru.com/effektivniy-buhgalter/sutochnye-zagrankomandirovka-2019-normy.html
        1. 1976AG
          1976AG 27 May 2021 21: 10
          +1
          I have not been sent so far and at once in all directions)
          1. Xnumx vis
            Xnumx vis 27 May 2021 21: 13
            0
            Quote: 1976AG
            I have not been sent so far and at once in all directions)

            Fatherland sends .. Not me! drinks But it pays money. hi
    5. Anachoret
      Anachoret 27 May 2021 18: 14
      0
      Quote: NIKNN
      For example Switzerland or Finland.
      To Japan or Antarctica, business trips are cooler there.

      no, it's just that Kravchuk missed his "khatynka" in the Alps) and so it will be possible to visit and ventilate the house from senile marasmus, and, at the same time, receive travel allowances from the budget) what can you do, old communist nomenklatura worker)
  2. APASUS
    APASUS 27 May 2021 17: 08
    +3
    Kravchuk wanted to make a voyage at public expense? Better then Switzerland
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 27 May 2021 17: 30
      +4
      Quote: APASUS
      Better then Switzerland

      Or maybe in "White Swan"?
      1. abrakadabre
        abrakadabre 27 May 2021 23: 45
        +2
        Or maybe in "White Swan"?
        Better in the dark Dnieper.
    2. Black lotos
      Black lotos 27 May 2021 21: 49
      -2
      Quote: APASUS
      Better then Switzerland

      unless for your own as for a trip to your real estate "hatinka"
  3. New Year day
    New Year day 27 May 2021 17: 08
    -32%
    the decision on the Minsk negotiating platform was taken at the general summit and approved by the UN Security Council.

    just the UN Security Council began to examine the personal file of Mr. Lukashenko. And also today the ICAO meeting began. If they prove Luka's malicious intent, and this can be seen with the naked eye, then he can be declared an international terrorist and put on the wanted list by Interpol. What kind of Minsk is this?
    1. Cron
      Cron 27 May 2021 17: 13
      +22
      Quote: Silvestr
      just the UN Security Council began to examine the personal file of Mr. Lukashenko. And also today the ICAO meeting began. If they prove Luka's malicious intent, and this can be seen with the naked eye, then he can be declared an international terrorist and put on the wanted list by Interpol. What kind of Minsk is this?

      You smoke the best weed, however
      1. New Year day
        New Year day 27 May 2021 17: 18
        -25%
        Quote: Cron
        You smoke the best weed, however

        and well-reasoned objections?
        1.The UN Security Council called the Ryanair incident an encroachment on the security of Europe
        https://yandex.ru/news/story/SB_OON_nazval_incident_ssamoletom_Ryanair_posyagatelstvom_nabezopasnost_Evropy--26b4790210bfb462f25a5c2fdeaad15d?from=newswizard&lang=ru&persistent_id=144926098&rubric=politics&stid=cnexPBWVeQvXpUkoGXjq&wan=1&wizard=story
        2. ICAO convenes an emergency meeting due to the plane landing in Minsk. The International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) believes that the incident in Belarus with the Ryanair aircraft may be an example of a violation of the 1944 Chicago Convention.
        1. Cron
          Cron 27 May 2021 17: 22
          +10
          Quote: Silvestr
          and well-reasoned objections?

          Well, what am I to argue for? Unless I can ask which garbage can you read this, or maybe you came up with it yourself?
          1. For example
            For example 27 May 2021 17: 48
            +11
            Quote: Silvestr
            The UN Security Council began examining Mr. Lukashenko's personal file.


            What are you sitting on? Why are you so intoxicating your head?

            UN Security Council examines Lukashenka's personal file? wassat

            Has the UN Security Council investigator prepared the case?
            Did the UN Security Council operative go to the crime scenes?
            Is the UN Security Council prosecutor familiar with the case file?
            Did the UN Security Council provide a lawyer to the defendant in the case?

            What is his fault, boyars? wassat

        2. Cron
          Cron 27 May 2021 17: 25
          +10
          Quote: Silvestr
          UN Security Council calls Ryanair incident an encroachment on European security

          Too loud a statement about the UN Security Council, don't you think? Considering that Russia and China are permanent members there
        3. Reserve buildbat
          Reserve buildbat 27 May 2021 17: 27
          +12
          Clear. Terrorism and forced aircraft landings are only allowed for your private owners. "This is different, you need to understand." laughing
          Do not disgrace it.
        4. Thrifty
          Thrifty 27 May 2021 17: 49
          +6
          Sylvester, the UN has long been a pocket doll of the United States, they do not decide, they read ready-made decisions of the State Department, Russia is trying to fight this Kashmar with difficulty, but it is difficult to explain something to the weak-willed and voiceless "representatives of independent states" who live one day!
      2. Xnumx vis
        Xnumx vis 27 May 2021 19: 40
        +3
        Quote: Cron
        Quote: Silvestr
        just the UN Security Council began to examine the personal file of Mr. Lukashenko. And also today the ICAO meeting began. If they prove Luka's malicious intent, and this can be seen with the naked eye, then he can be declared an international terrorist and put on the wanted list by Interpol. What kind of Minsk is this?

        You smoke the best weed, however

        The comrade is delusional! From anger towards Russia and Belarus!
        1. New Year day
          New Year day 27 May 2021 22: 03
          -6
          Quote: 30 vis
          From anger towards Russia and Belarus!

          Lukashenko is not Belarus, just as Putin is not Russia.
          Don't be fooled by your own worth. Russia and Belarus were before Lukashenko, and will be after. But without your concepts
          1. Xnumx vis
            Xnumx vis 27 May 2021 22: 05
            +3
            Quote: Silvestr
            Don't be fooled by your own worth. Russia and Belarus were before Lukashenko, and will be after. But without your concepts

            Got it! Will be according to your ideas ... tongue
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 27 May 2021 17: 33
      +5
      Quote: Silvestr
      just the UN Security Council began to examine the personal file of Mr. Lukashenko. And also today the ICAO meeting began.

      Why are there so many aligophrenics in the world, or the warming of the planet is affecting, or is vodka and dust being driven all over the world.
      1. Vladimir61
        Vladimir61 27 May 2021 17: 50
        +5
        Quote: tihonmarine
        Why are there so many aligophrenics in the world, or the warming of the planet is affecting, or is vodka and dust being driven all over the world.
        What did you expect from the sons of the "Crimean officer"?
        1. New Year day
          New Year day 27 May 2021 22: 25
          -4
          Quote: Vladimir61
          from the sons of a "Crimean officer"?

          No, the son of ordinary workers.
      2. New Year day
        New Year day 27 May 2021 22: 25
        -5
        Quote: tihonmarine
        Why are there so many aligophrenics in the world, or the warming of the planet is affecting, or is vodka and dust being driven all over the world.

        Are you talking about yourself? Self-critical!
    3. nnm
      nnm 27 May 2021 17: 44
      +12
      And they don't want to declare anyone a terrorist for the forced landing of a plane with the Bolivian president? Did the ICAO investigation blame anyone for the forced landing of the Belarusian aircraft by Ukraine in 2016?
      1. Cron
        Cron 27 May 2021 18: 00
        +4
        Quote: nnm
        And they don't want to declare anyone a terrorist for the forced landing of a plane with the Bolivian president? Did the ICAO investigation blame anyone for the forced landing of the Belarusian aircraft by Ukraine in 2016?

        Such is the current world order. There is even no point in looking for justice here. There are those who have a lot more opportunities and impudence, and there are those who have less of them. There are sons of bitches, and there are others.
        And all sorts of tame ICAO will do what they are told.

        Isolating through Luka through the UN Security Council is not realistic, for obvious reasons. They will now think whether they will finally push Grigorich towards Moscow and Beijing, or they need to slow down.
    4. Podvodnik
      Podvodnik 27 May 2021 17: 51
      +6
      If they prove Luke's evil intent,


      In accordance with international convention, any state can land a plane for police reasons whenever it wants. All the rest is just the barking of yard dogs.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 27 May 2021 18: 04
        +2
        Quote: Podvodnik
        All the rest is just the barking of yard dogs.

        As according to Orwell in "Animal Farm" - all dogs in the pack are equal, but among them there are more equal.
    5. Black lotos
      Black lotos 27 May 2021 21: 53
      -3
      Quote: Silvestr
      What kind of Minsk is this?

      Minsk is now prohibited for political reasons. Lukashenka has a particular roof and no one wants to go there. To do so much in a short time, you need to have talent. And Lukashenka has it.
      So Ukraine is right. Minsk disappears as a platform for political reasons because of the actions of Minsk itself on all fronts.
      When Minsk was appointed, it was just an ideal place for such a thing. Such is the "bridge". And he served for a long time. But who knew about such "talents" ...
  4. SERGE ANT
    SERGE ANT 27 May 2021 17: 12
    +12
    it is not for Kravchuk to decide
    Yes, then yes. They met with EBN already once in their time in the famous forest. I would have been sitting in silence, I would have looked smarter.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 27 May 2021 17: 33
      +4
      Quote: SERGE ant
      They made up their minds with EBN already once in their time in the famous forest. I would have been silent, I would have looked smarter.

      It’s time to bring him to the answer, for what he did.
  5. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 27 May 2021 17: 16
    +3
    Poor fellow Kravchuk clearly feels remorse for the committed betrayal of the peoples of the USSR, committed as part of a group of persons (the same Judas, like himself, running to bow to the United States, trying to get omnipotent approval there), therefore, to the last, he tries to find an excuse for himself.
    But despite this, he goes to bed with a pistol under his pillow.
    1. Volodin
      Volodin 27 May 2021 17: 39
      +5
      Quote: Retvizan 8
      Poor fellow Kravchuk is clearly experiencing remorse for the betrayal

      Kravchuk? .. Remorse? .. As they say in Odessa: Oh, I beg you ...
      How can you feel remorse when there is none?
    2. nnm
      nnm 27 May 2021 17: 45
      +5
      There is no conscience there. There is a fear of retribution.
      1. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 27 May 2021 21: 13
        +4
        Quote: nnm
        There is no conscience there. There is a fear of retribution.

        This will be closer to the truth. Apparently, this honored banderlog is afraid that in Minsk, just like Protasevich, they will try on handcuffs.
  6. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 27 May 2021 17: 21
    +4
    Magadan, with the arrest of the entire contact group from Ukraine! even with Old Man.
  7. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 27 May 2021 17: 23
    +3
    For Kravchuk, all meetings should be held in hell, where he has long been put on absenteeism.
  8. prior
    prior 27 May 2021 17: 24
    +3
    While the West did not arrange coups in Belarus, Minsk, as a place for negotiations, suited everyone, the Germans, the French, and the Kravchuk.
    Now that the coup has failed, Minsk is no longer good.
    Gentlemen, do you need peace in Donbass or the appearance of negotiations?
    Kravchuk needs to be challenged, he is a negotiator, like a shepherd from a wolf for sheep.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 27 May 2021 17: 38
      +3
      Quote: prior
      Now, when the coup d'etat failed, Minsk no longer suits.

      I see that Bidon and Kravchuk have the same "zuhenvey". Ja wherever you hold a meeting, in Minsk or Madagascar, but the Sumerians will never sign the clauses of the agreement, they have been pushing the water in a mortar for 7 years already, my grandson has already finished school during this time, and Peskov got married for the third time, and there are no signatures from Yuoukrain ...
  9. prior
    prior 27 May 2021 17: 35
    0
    From the latest news: "Russia did not allow Austrian Airlines flight to arrive through Belarus." Flight canceled.

    You give all flights from the EU, which are to Moscow, only through the airspace of Belarus! Back by itself good
  10. Evil troll
    Evil troll 27 May 2021 17: 36
    +3
    Some strange motto there in the background. God is clear, but why are Motherland and Ukraine two different concepts? Homeland somewhere else for them or what?
    1. Grits
      Grits 28 May 2021 06: 20
      0
      Quote: Angry Troll
      Some strange motto there in the background. God is clear, but why are Motherland and Ukraine two different concepts? Homeland is somewhere else for them that l

      I also paid attention to this. Say, our homeland is not at all in Ukraine. And the word homeland is written with a small letter. Looks like it's not very expensive.
  11. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 27 May 2021 17: 46
    +1
    Kravchuk is just as sneaky and cynical as Mazepa. In other words, he is Mazepa of the 20th century. And unsinkable like filth.
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    2. Peak
      Peak 27 May 2021 18: 04
      0
      Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
      Kravchuk is just as sneaky and cynical as Mazepa. In other words, he is Mazepa of the 20th century.


      The behavior is similar 100%.

      Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
      And unsinkable like filth.


      Mazepa was bitten by lice, and this rare feces, maggots will seize.
  12. cniza
    cniza 27 May 2021 18: 29
    +3
    The negotiation process needs to be postponed from there. Where to? I believe there can be neutral countries. For example Switzerland or Finland.


    Of course, his business trips in Minsk are small ...
  13. Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 27 May 2021 18: 49
    +1
    * According to Sergei Lavrov, it is not for Kravchuk to decide where and how the contact group on Donbass will conduct its work. *
    There is no reason to disagree.
    What is most interesting is that no one is particularly involved in this matter. Grandpa Kravchuk especially needs it.
    Grandfather - in the cemetery for a long time already put truancy.
    No, you have to stick your sting in!
  14. Glenni
    Glenni 27 May 2021 19: 07
    0
    Yes, at least where you meet, peace is needed!
  15. Marachuh
    Marachuh 27 May 2021 19: 14
    +1
    Kravchuk's opinion is as interesting to me as Gorbachev's. Send these old ones to the dustbin of history. They have already entered their names as destroyers of the Great Country! And their descendants will still remember it!
    1. isv000
      isv000 28 May 2021 17: 05
      -1
      Daddy pays his little Jew, Shushkevich, a pension of $ 1, and he warned him - if you blow one letter, you will finish the second one on the bunk ... good
  16. bistrov.
    bistrov. 27 May 2021 23: 55
    +3
    Strangely, in 2016, the SBU of the so-called "Ukraine" shut down and landed in Kuevo a passenger plane Kuev-Minsk under the threat of using military aviation only because a certain journalist Armen Martirosyan, suspected of being the organizer of the "anti-Maidan", was flying in it. He was removed from the returning plane, but the SBU could not prove anything, so this Martirosyan flew away on the next flight, I wonder if he was compensated for the ticket price? Unlikely.....
    1. isv000
      isv000 28 May 2021 17: 03
      -1
      But it's high time to initiate an international process on Kukuev's lawlessness with Martirosyan ... yes
  17. Bare
    Bare 28 May 2021 09: 02
    0
    Ukraine does not need independence, the "great knowers" cannot simply cope with it. It was, is and will be, unfortunately. This is not a state, not even a country, this is a territory in which a certain community of people lives, and we must agree with this. hi crying
  18. isv000
    isv000 28 May 2021 17: 00
    -1
    For example Switzerland or Finland.

    Pyongyang won't work? fool