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Results of the next useless Palestinian-Israeli war

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But now it's time to return to the material two weeks ago. I mean the next Arab-Israeli war, which has already received its own name - "11-day". Both sides, according to their own statements, carried out this campaign with great success. Both sides won. The list of those killed and injured in this war has been replenished on both sides.


Israel and Hamas + Fatah have shown their strength. The power of your armies and the weakness of the enemy. We cleaned our own arsenals from dusty missiles and shells. We worked out the help of the allies. Now the Israeli side and Hamas, together with Fatah, can with a clear conscience not only report to the sponsors about the victory, but also demand increased new financial investments to restore the combat power of their armies.

Although, if you look closely, this war practically did not solve any of the tasks set. Here I mean exactly military tasks. Elimination of the reasons that blew on the sparks for a fire. After all, it is clear that ordinary Israelis and Palestinians do not need this war. War is death! And, above all, the death of the civilian population. The military in such conflicts has a greater chance of surviving than civilians.

Have you won over and calmed down?


It is very difficult to find victory where there is none. But I'll try. And I'll start with the winners. From Israel and Hamas. But the question arises as to why the sides went to aggravation, rather tough confrontation? And ... agreed to a truce quickly enough? Nothing comes from nothing. You can always find the hidden reasons for any action, any conflict, any war.

So what kind of victory did Israel win?

Yes, some of the Hamas leaders have been destroyed. Just what does this give the Israelites? Absolutely nothing! The enemy can make up for the losses in a matter of days. I will not write about the quality of the replacement, simply because it does not matter, in conditions when the command staff is appointed from among the current commanders. Participation and actions in battle are the best measure of the quality of a commander.

Destroyed a hundred kilometers of the so-called "Metro", the Hamas system of underground passages? And what is the victory here? Except for a certain number of militants hiding in these tunnels before the raid? These communications are also easily restored, but in other places. This means that Israeli intelligence is adding to the headache.

Destroyed 74 government offices and government agencies in the Gaza Strip? 5 large residential high-rises in the center of Gaza were destroyed to the ground Are 1800 Palestinian homes destroyed and 16800 damaged, also a victory? Experts have already calculated that restoration will require at least $ 350 million! And the 232 killed Palestinians, of whom 64 are children, also a victory? Maybe 1900 wounded Palestinians are a victory?

At the same time, many problems were revealed and several myths about Israel collapsed.

How many decades have we been poked in the nose with the great invention of the Jews, the Iron Dome? And what is the bottom line? The dome works great against flying water pipes and gas cylinders, but proved ineffective against even outdated and outdated combat missiles.

I spoke with specialists who understand air defense by an order of magnitude more than mine. According to their estimates, the "Iron Dome" showed an efficiency of 50 to 60% and loses its effectiveness during massive shelling due to some technical features, such as the loading time of the installation.

Just over 4000 missiles were fired across the country. Of which 610 simply did not reach Israel. About half were knocked down by the "dome", some (from 10 to 15%) did not even hit the territories of cities and fell outside the settlements. But did the rest hit the mark? If, of course, the goal is to consider the city. "Pipes" do not fly where they are directed, but where they want to.

There is one more "legend", which, in general, turned out to be zilch. I mean another Israeli "piece of iron" - "Iron Ray"! The same combat laser, which in 4–5 seconds is capable of destroying any enemy missile by warming up the body. Well? .. I have not found a single message about the successful use of the "Iron Beam" in the war. They used it, but no missiles were actually shot down.

And everything returned to normal. Those same American F-16I Sufa fighters, armed with precision bombs and missiles. Those same reconnaissance and strike UAVs, armed with the same bombs. The same large-caliber laser-guided projectiles. This is what ensured real victories in battle.

Alas, without offending the Israelis, this weapon designed for a war in the deserts, on clean fields. In the conditions of urban development, it turns into a conventional weapon of destruction, which we saw in reality. Any eastern city is built up in such a way that it is impossible to destroy an object without destroying many others around.

Now we cross the line of demarcation and look at the other winners, Hamas and Fatah. As far as I know, the Palestinians are still celebrating victory. Why, Israel got scared of the formidable Arab warriors and backed down. The entire Israeli army was afraid to storm the Gaza Strip and crawled back like beaten puppies.

Everyone pretends that this was the main goal of the war.

But what really?

In fact, Israel, in addition to the already mentioned refusal to attack the Gaza Strip, which, in my opinion, is quite justified both from a military and from a human point of view, has not abandoned its plans and actions. Has the war brought the real creation of a Palestinian state even one iota closer? Also no.

Release all Arabs from prison? Well, yes, Tel Aviv is just running to fulfill the requirements. Not to use security forces in the Al-Aqsa mosque? Well yes. We will not. Exactly until the moment when new riots begin. And so on, for all questions.

But the Palestinians try not to mention these results of the war.

Are there real victories for the Palestinians, or rather, what they can really boast of? There is! First of all, it is the quantity and quality of missiles that are in service, and which are the cause of the deaths of those 12 Israeli civilians who died in this war.

If you look closely at what flew in the direction of Israeli cities, you will notice significant differences from what happened before. The existing short-range missiles (from 8 to 20 km) were supplemented by missiles with a firing range of 40 to 80 km. But most importantly, the A-120, R-160, M 180, Ayash-250 missiles appeared in service. As you understand, the number in the name is just the firing range. This means that Hamas missiles can already strike throughout Israel!

More importantly, the Palestinians began to use the weapon that the Israelis have always been proud of - the UAV! Drone-kamikaze "Shehab". It was created using the technologies of the Iranian unmanned aerial vehicle "Ababil-2". It was this drone that successfully attacked the Israeli chemical plant in Nir Oz. The emergence of the UAV was an unpleasant surprise for Israel.

The new missiles slightly changed the tactics of using missile weapons, for which the Israelis were also not ready, but which significantly changed the attitude of the civilian population to shelling. Israeli cities are well equipped with defenses. When a missile attack was announced, the Israelis had time to get there. But that was before.

The Palestinians have demonstrated very different tactics today. The missiles are launched along a more flat trajectory. Thus, the flight range is lost, but the time it takes to detect the missile by radars is significantly reduced. With some blows, this time varied from one and a half to two minutes. To manage to hide in a bomb shelter in such a time is problematic.

A little about the real winners in the war


Meanwhile, it seems to me, there are real winners in this war. Those who have undoubtedly won. Moreover, on both sides. Alas, this is not a military victory. This is not even a victory for the state. This is a personal victory for the leaders of Israel and Hamas. Again politics. The deep roots of war were in the same place as all wars before. Power!

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Remember the intentions of the Knesset members to deprive Netanyahu of power? Opponents of the prime minister gathered deputies under their banners in order to overthrow Bibi in the next elections (as the Israelis seem to call him). Indeed, the chances of re-election were slim.

What happened today? Many of the deputies after this war turned their faces to Benjamin Netanyahu. A coalition of opponents of the prime minister has split. And, according to Israeli experts, in the upcoming elections, the prime minister's chances of re-election are quite high, even if he cannot assemble a decent team.

Hamas and Fatah. about the same situation as that of the Prime Minister of Israel. There is a rather serious internal struggle for influence. The challenge for Hamas today is to expand its influence in the West Bank of Jordan. And this requires a victory. And she's drawn. The authority of Hamas among the Arab countries has grown significantly.

And what was happening around the "tatami"


Any war is like a fight of fighters on a tatami, in a cage, in a ring. And besides those who directly fight, there are coaches, masseurs, sparring partners, and someone else from the team. And there are those who come just to look at the fighters. They scream, stamp their feet, whistle in both directions. They don't care who wins. The spectacle itself, the duel itself, is important to them.

A few words about the trainers of fighters. First of all, about the head coach who ... trains both fighters. That's right, both participants in the fight. Naturally, I am talking about the United States. For a long time I tried to understand the intricacies of American policy in this region, but I cannot say that the solitaire has developed.

On the one hand, the United States is actively supporting Israel. $ 4,5 billion annually to strengthen Israel's defenses says something. Blinken's declared course towards "two peoples - two states" is an oil on the souls of both Palestinians and Israelis.

But what are the boundaries of the United States proposed to create Palestine? I have already written about Jerusalem and the American embassy there. How do the Americans propose to divide the Arabs and deprive them of Israeli citizenship? The picture of poor and uneducated Arabs will not work here. Israeli Arabs are educated and adequate. The Palestinians will not want to leave well-fed Israel, knowing full well what the standard of living will be in Palestine.

It is also completely incomprehensible to me how the United States wants to improve the lives of the Palestinians with the help of humanitarian operations. Considering the influence of Hamas and the like among the Arabs. Make a deal with Hamas? Impossible. Simply because the United States and several other countries have recognized this organization as terrorist.

And Hamas itself will not agree to direct negotiations with the United States, realizing that the main demand of the United States will be the recognition of Israel. But if any organization recognizes the legitimacy of Israel, the Arabs will turn their backs on it. There will be no options at all to take any place in the power of the new state.

So, with one hand, the United States is arming Israel, with the other hand it is trying to appease the Palestinians with humanitarian aid. And what is the bottom line? As a result, the dissatisfaction of both sides. The claims are well-founded, I must say.

Israel, except the Americans, is supported by no one. In words, yes, in deeds, no. But Hamas has a couple of "trainers". This is a strength training coach from Iran and a moral and psychological training coach from Turkey. It is clear that the first is the main supplier of weapons, and the second is the main tuner and quiet assistant.

I still do not understand how, in principle, the enemies, judging by the actions in Syria, can jointly support the Palestinians. I'm not sure, but, quite possibly, after some time we will be able to see some steps towards rapprochement of the positions of Turkey and Iran. Moreover, elections are coming soon in Iran, and a change of the ruling clan is quite possible.

Well, the viewer. One, but what - Russia. To be honest, I was a little afraid that in this war we would take someone's side. This would really weaken the position of our country in the region. If you think about it, diplomats are doing a fine job of maintaining good relations with both sides.

We shout at the rule breakers, at the Israelis for the destroyed children, at the destroyed houses, at the Arabs because of the massive shelling. In fact, we behave exactly like fans. "Judge for soap", realizing that no one will do it. As well as understanding that the game will end and the spectacle too. Apart from aesthetic satisfaction, there will be nothing left. Life will just continue.

Briefly at the end


As I predicted, another war did not resolve any issues. Again, blood, death, destruction just like that. For self-satisfaction of the ambitions of the ruling forces. At the same time, the people are inspired with the idea of ​​some kind of victory. About some achievements that will bring closer the solution of the issue of creating a full-fledged Palestinian state.

It seems to me that Israelis and Palestinians simply cannot live without each other. In biology, there is the concept of many forms of coexistence of living organisms. What I see today can be called antibiosis. Both peoples, living in the same territory, receive harm from coexistence or experience a negative impact.

I will put forward, perhaps, a utopian theory for resolving the conflict.

It is just necessary to transfer living together to another level of mutual influence. It is necessary for symbiosis to arise. So that both peoples, living together, mutually help each other. The Jewish people did what they can do well, and the Palestinians do what they can do.

I see no other way. Not now, not in the future.
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  1. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 28 May 2021 15: 07
    +5
    Such a long article for the sake of conclusion at the end - the motto of the cat Leopold:
    GUYS LET'S BE FRIENDS!
    1. Finches
      Finches 28 May 2021 15: 11
      +1
      In this case, the world on this issue has not yet been determined and is still divided into hawks and moderates:

      Hawks: Let's shoot all Arabs and Jews!
      Moderate: What else, let them shoot each other ... laughing

      But seriously, really, you need to somehow negotiate!
    2. Machito
      Machito 28 May 2021 15: 16
      +6
      Living together will not work. The territory is too small, the population is too large. And two thousand years of war ...
      1. SERGE ANT
        SERGE ANT 28 May 2021 15: 30
        +9
        A symbiosis is needed. So that both peoples, living together, mutually help each other.
        “You cannot harness a horse and a quivering doe into one cart.” This music will be eternal. Unfortunately.
        1. motorized rifle
          motorized rifle 31 May 2021 23: 30
          +1
          But this is from the Marxist-Leninist philosophy: "The unity and struggle of opposites", I recommend to ask. And the conclusion is that complete victory is not possible, and mutual defeat will occur regularly, up to mutual destruction. The question for Israel is not in technology, there is enough technology, it has a question in theory. In any case, in finding a clear perspective, including for its citizens. What they (the Jews) would like, and perhaps should have done, cannot be said out loud, at least at the present time. And without this, everything will continue to drag on. At the same time, Hamas is exactly the opposite. They have complete order with the theory, they do not have enough technology. But if they have it, they will apply it faster than the dirt disappears in the advertisement of the detergent. Moreover, taking into account the logical conclusion: "the first time is an accident, the second is a coincidence, and the third is a pattern", we can talk about this as an axiom.
    3. Professor
      Professor 28 May 2021 16: 09
      +7
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      Such a long article for the sake of conclusion at the end - the motto of the cat Leopold:
      GUYS LET'S BE FRIENDS!

      If quantity turns into quality ... request

      Israel and Hamas + Fatah have shown their strength.

      Fatah generally sat quietly and did not participate in hostilities.

      Destroyed a hundred kilometers of the so-called "Metro", the Hamas system of underground passages? And what is the victory here? Except for a certain number of militants hiding in these tunnels before the raid? These communications are also easily restored, but in other places. This means that Israeli intelligence is adding to the headache.

      120 km of concrete tunnels dug by hand have not been EASILY restored for many years. It takes time, reinforcement, concrete, people and a lot, a lot of money.

      I spoke with specialists who understand air defense by an order of magnitude more than mine. According to their estimates, the "Iron Dome" showed an efficiency of 50 to 60% and loses its effectiveness during massive shelling due to some technical features, such as the loading time of the installation.

      Specialists greetings. Did they study the OBS statistics? In fact, 90% of the intercepted missiles have been successfully intercepted.

      There is one more "legend", which, in general, turned out to be zilch. I mean another Israeli "piece of iron" - "Iron Ray"!

      Alexander. and it was adopted? When?

      The same large-caliber laser-guided projectiles.

      Which ones? Are you writing about the Tsakhal?

      Any eastern city is built up in such a way that it is impossible to destroy an object without destroying many others around.

      It is possible that it has been proven
      Let's watch the video?

      The entire Israeli army was afraid to storm the Gaza Strip and crawled back like beaten puppies.

      Storming to feed 1.5 million Arabs? No thanks.

      Has the war brought the real creation of a Palestinian state even one iota closer? Also no.
      This state has already been created. In Gaza.

      Release all Arabs from prison? Well, yes, Tel Aviv is just running to fulfill the requirements.
      Jerusalem. Change the training manual.

      Are there real victories for the Palestinians, or rather, what they can really boast of? There is! First of all, it is the quantity and quality of missiles that are in service, and which are the cause of the deaths of those 12 Israeli civilians who died in this war.

      Above, the author calls rockets pipes.

      And the 232 killed Palestinians, of whom 64 are children, also a victory? Maybe 1900 wounded Palestinians are a victory?

      yah? And you can see the list of "children" or will we take our word for it?

      What happened today? Many of the deputies after this war turned their faces to Benjamin Netanyahu.

      Bibi was unable to form a government today. The criminal prosecution continues. Victory...

      It seems to me that Israelis and Palestinians simply cannot live without each other.

      It seems? So do not write in "analytics", but in "opinions".

      Deserved minus article. A blooper on a blooper. Not attracted to analytics. negative
      1. Aleks2048
        Aleks2048 30 May 2021 20: 55
        +1
        In fact, 90% of the intercepted missiles have been successfully intercepted.

        I would like to see the layout for intercepted, detected targets.
        Or will we take our word for it?

        It is possible that it has been proven
        Let's watch the video?

        Do you have for every hit? Or, again, take your word for it?
        And a well-deserved minus comment.
        1. Professor
          Professor 31 May 2021 12: 52
          -5
          Quote: Alex2048
          I would like to see the layout for intercepted, detected targets.

          Contact the IDF Press Office.

          Quote: Alex2048
          Do you have for every hit? Or, again, take your word for it?
          And a well-deserved minus comment.

          Not for everyone. There are general statistics.

          I won't survive your minus. wassat
          1. Aleks2048
            Aleks2048 1 June 2021 03: 19
            +1
            I will not survive your minus. wassat

            And we ought not to worry, but to end the chatter.
            1. Professor
              Professor 1 June 2021 07: 58
              -6
              Quote: Alex2048
              I will not survive your minus. wassat

              And we ought not to worry, but to end the chatter.

              Show by example how this is done.
    4. boriz
      boriz 30 May 2021 12: 47
      +3
      The conclusion, in fact, is different. Netanyahu shouldn't have sat down. And he achieved his goal. And how many are due to the people and incurred losses - he is not interested.
      Here, back in March it was written: https://cont.ws/@boriz56/1989020
  2. Aleksandr97
    Aleksandr97 28 May 2021 15: 26
    +6
    It is not the weak position of the peacekeepers among the Israelis and the Palestinians that frightens, not the lack of a serious political will of the parties to search for compromises and achieve a minimum consensus, it is not the direct interest in military actions that frightens, if not the direct participants, although hardly, then the "trainers" for sure! If, then a smoldering, then a hot war has been going on for decades or centuries, it means that it is beneficial for someone ... The vicious circle, as history has repeatedly shown, breaks only under the condition of the existential threat of the very existence of the parties to the conflict!
    1. Professor
      Professor 28 May 2021 16: 16
      +2
      Quote: Aleksandr97
      It is not the weak position of the peacekeepers among the Israelis and the Palestinians that frightens, not the lack of a serious political will of the parties to search for compromises and achieve a minimum consensus, it is not the direct interest in military actions that frightens, if not the direct participants, although hardly, then the "trainers" for sure!

      Hamas's goal is to destroy Israel. So it is written in their charter.
      Israel's goal is to live in peace.
      What consensus will suit Hamas? Fighting Israel is their lucrative business.
      1. D16
        D16 28 May 2021 19: 39
        +2
        Israel's goal is to live in peace.

        How are the Americans with the remnants of the Indians on the reservations? Let the Palais build a casino? laughing
        1. sidoroff
          sidoroff 28 May 2021 19: 50
          +3
          was already in Jericho. preferred to convert into firing points.
    2. Sunstorm
      Sunstorm 31 May 2021 17: 45
      0
      Quote: Aleksandr97
      It is not the weak position of the peacekeepers among the Israelis and the Palestinians that frightens, not the lack of a serious political will of the parties to search for compromises and achieve a minimum consensus, it is not the direct interest in hostilities that frightens
      There is a will and there is a consensus, all the goals of politicians from the 1st and 2nd sides have been successfully achieved (Bibi is at the helm, Hamas has changed its elite). A compromise has been reached. Until the next internal political crisis ...
  3. zenion
    zenion 28 May 2021 15: 28
    +4
    As it was, there were no victories if it was done so that some would turn to face the prime minister. The main one is one person. But this person was offended that he was being held for a fool and he decided to be the new government and finally the judgment to the one who made a provocation in order to sit in a nest on eggs, his own and others.
  4. THE LIFE
    THE LIFE 28 May 2021 15: 29
    +10
    author you are really an analyst My sneakers laugh
    1. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 28 May 2021 15: 31
      -4
      Everyone has their own point of view. You can share yours) no one bothers)
      1. Professor
        Professor 28 May 2021 16: 19
        +4
        Quote: carstorm 11
        Everyone has their own point of view. You can share yours) no one bothers)

        "Opinions" is another heading.
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 28 May 2021 16: 25
          +1
          Exactly. I will never take sides here, but reading different opinions is good. But I said that you can also in the comments) right here)
          1. Professor
            Professor 28 May 2021 16: 42
            +9
            Quote: carstorm 11
            Exactly. I will never take sides here, but reading different opinions is good. But I said that you can also in the comments) right here)

            There are not many complaints about opinions. You cannot "have your own opinion" without having information about the topic under discussion. This is how fantasies are made. Like, in my opinion, the Moon has an atmosphere suitable for life. Also, for example, about Israeli laser-guided shells or "Iron Beam". Neither one nor the other is in the Tsakhal. Do you understand? The author's opinion that they are in the IDF is not an opinion, but a fantasy. Fantasies about the number of children killed, fantasies about Fatah and Bibi.
            1. Andrey VOV
              Andrey VOV 30 May 2021 18: 57
              +2
              And you Professor is aware of everything! You are the truth in the first instance and in all your comments, to articles that do not even concern your country, you know everything and you are the best .... from your own importance is not very bursting ??
              1. Professor
                Professor 31 May 2021 12: 50
                -2
                No, I am not aware of everything and therefore I study a lot of different sources. The author did not study anything.
            2. And Us Rat
              And Us Rat 31 May 2021 22: 26
              0
              Quote: Professor
              Also, for example, about Israeli laser-guided shells ...

              https://www.israeldefense.co.il/en/node/29742
              1. Professor
                Professor 1 June 2021 07: 57
                -1
                Quote: And Us Rat
                Quote: Professor
                Also, for example, about Israeli laser-guided shells ...

                https://www.israeldefense.co.il/en/node/29742

                Attached to standard 155 mm artillery rounds where the fuze is normally screwed in, the TopGun is essentially an add-on guidance kit that also performs the role of a fuze. IAI says it uses a GPS receiver to adjust the trajectory of the shell in flight and is capable of achieving a circular error probable (CEP) of 10 m at up to 40 km with a unit cost of $ 20,000.

                laser guided?
                1. And Us Rat
                  And Us Rat 1 June 2021 08: 52
                  +1
                  Quote: Professor
                  laser guided?

                  For some reason I thought it was present. what
  5. parusnik
    parusnik 28 May 2021 15: 38
    +5
    Here is another question. Who is not interested in what Jews and Arabs would live together. Who? I don't know myself, but he is smile This war, it feeds someone and is not bad. And who will refuse a zhrachki?
  6. knn54
    knn54 28 May 2021 15: 50
    +5
    This article (the author plus) would like a little "gag". I'll start from the end.
    Alas, I don’t believe in peace between Arabs and Jews. As A.S. Pushkin said: “You cannot harness into one cart / A horse and a quivering doe”.
    Israel took Jerusalem, builds new settlements on the West Bank. Annexed the Golan Heights. Hamas is not destroying (literally) the PLO, Fatah, in order to instantly lose face by going to cooperate with Israel.
    Pay attention, the main enemy is not a non-believer, but a "sectarian". Shiites and Sunnis, Catholics and Orthodox, etc.
    Financial humanitarian flows to Palestine are significant ... but through Israel, and both Fatah and Hamas want to dispose of what goes to Palestine.
    And who would benefit from the author himself. When the throne is shaking under those in power, they look for an EXTERNAL enemy.
    "The pans are fighting, but the slaves (lads) have their forelocks cracking."
    And the last thing is to start with ... Sinai. For Egypt "itself" does not pull, so the Islamists feel great.
    1. bk0010
      bk0010 28 May 2021 20: 26
      -2
      Quote: knn54
      Alas, I don’t believe in peace between Arabs and Jews.
      And in vain. Before the Jews from Europe came in large numbers there, a bunch of Jews lived in Jerusalem and the surrounding area, who quite got along with the Arabs, and for hundreds of years. Information straight from Israel.
      1. avib
        avib 30 May 2021 11: 13
        +2
        Quote: bk0010
        Quote: knn54
        Alas, I don’t believe in peace between Arabs and Jews.
        And in vain. Before the Jews from Europe came in large numbers there, a bunch of Jews lived in Jerusalem and the surrounding area, who quite got along with the Arabs, and for hundreds of years. Information straight from Israel.


        Yes, yes .. The Arabs periodically staged Jewish pogroms and did not allow Jews to pray in Jerusalem ... but of course they got along well ...
        Information direct from Israel
        1. bk0010
          bk0010 30 May 2021 11: 45
          0
          Quote: avib
          did not allow Jews to pray in Jerusalem
          Well, actually, that's what they did and bragged about.
  7. Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart 28 May 2021 15: 58
    +10
    I will put forward, perhaps, a utopian theory for resolving the conflict.

    You just need to transfer living together to another level of mutual influence. It is necessary for symbiosis to arise. So that both peoples, living together, mutually help each other. The Jewish people did what they can do well, and the Palestinians did what they can

    An ending worthy of healthy speeches of late socialism)))
    The article is good, the war is really a stupid occupation in their case. They will not get along peacefully - too different mentality, faith, and I would say yes, genes. The modern world, with its stubborn tolerance, has ceased to make allowances for this small but important point - natural selection "tunes" the population, regardless of whether the population believes in it or not. And the Jews, methodically trained by generations for education and the ability to make money, are quite clearly opposed to the Palestinian model with its ideas about life, work, quality and benefits, also fostered by generations.
    3225 launches of "V-2" were made by the Germans in England - they killed ~ 2700 people, destroyed a lot of infrastructure. The Palestinians made 4000 (previously I heard a figure of ~ 2500) launches - killing 12 people. Even brackeing the moral side of the question - is this success? At one time, many of Hitler's associates considered "V-2" a stupid and useless adventure, well, "how do you like that, Elon Musk"?
    Did all this help Palestine? Not. The cart is still there. This is called "epic fail" in modern parlance. Not that it's just an epic, but that a fail is unambiguous.
    But the Israelis will draw conclusions from this - they will throw more shekels on the fan of the defense industry, they will sit more tightly on the supply channels to Palestine, and most importantly, now they have a model of how much and for how much the enemy can build a shaitan-pipes. They will undoubtedly take this model into account in their air defense / missile defense calculations.

    I will end my thought with the fact that, in my opinion, the only viable solution in this case would be large-scale deportation and occupation by the forces of one of the parties, the forces of the other. Or, as an option, a long and hopeless meat grinder, as a result of which the region will leave everything that can leave it - and then there will be a large-scale deportation and occupation. World practice shows that all other options are delaying the inevitable or building semi-pacifistic castles in the air, which are then brutally smashed against reality (Karabakh, Kosovo, South Africa).
    1. 547807955
      547807955 28 May 2021 18: 10
      0
      The author writes about Hamas, not Palestine; nobody asked the Palestinians there, as did Bibi Israelis. I think the problem is Israel's choice of the economic model of the United States, but the geography and size of the country negate all its advantages. If they could, at least 90% of Russian-speaking people would have dumped out of there (it was not for nothing that Kedmi drove them there through Ciausescu's Romania).
  8. NF68
    NF68 28 May 2021 16: 17
    +2
    If this war was not needed by someone, then it would not have happened. And if a warrior reminds of herself from time to time, it is also not just that.
  9. Alexey RA
    Alexey RA 28 May 2021 16: 20
    +4
    I still do not understand how, in principle, the enemies, judging by the actions in Syria, can jointly support the Palestinians.

    It's very simple. In the same way as the USA and the USSR at one time supported Egypt in the war against France and Britain. Situational union.
    Moreover, this is the Middle East. There are combinations "here - we are at war with each other, there - together against a common enemy"in the order of things. Especially when it comes to Israel - Syria, Egypt, Iraq, Jordan, Libya, Saudi Arabia, Morocco, Algeria and Pakistan somehow managed to unite against it.
  10. sidoroff
    sidoroff 28 May 2021 16: 31
    +10
    this round of war is just beginning. what happened before was just a prelude and a collection of material for the war itself. material for any international courts, committees
    for the protection of human rights .. more photos of dead babies. crocodile tears and curses. Moreover, the more crocodile the regime - the more there will be Israel's accusations of genocide.
    because, on the military side, the Arabs and their Persian friends are again in the deepest ass.
    by hook or by crook into Gaza rockets (which are no longer rusty pipes), and
    the rockets killed by an order of magnitude more "friends" in Gaza than aliens in Israel. digging for years
    tunnels, burying a million $ per kilometer there and it is not known how many diggers - but they fit
    only on the graves. equipment for electronic warfare, hacker attacks - to dust.
    wanted to provoke Israeli Arabs and "Palestinians" - enough for a certain number of pogroms. burned a dozen synagogues, destroyed a hundred apartments. neat now
    are packed up in prisons to finish school and get higher education.
  11. Kostadinov
    Kostadinov 28 May 2021 16: 43
    +2
    Nice and informative commentary. This is a war of reactionaries on both sides that only they need. The Palestinian and Israeli people are suffering and suffering losses.
    Many times more Palestinians are suffering now and in the past, but in the long term the very existence of Israelis is at stake.
    Of course, in my opinion, there are inaccurate statements like:
    The existing short-range missiles (from 8 to 20 km) were supplemented by missiles with a firing range of 40 to 80 km. But most importantly, the A-120, R-160, M 180, Ayash-250 missiles appeared in service. As you understand, the number in the name is just the firing range. This means that Hamas missiles can already strike throughout Israel!

    I've been reading about these non-self-made missiles with a range of 120, 160, 250 km and a warhead of several tens of kilograms for 15-20 years, but I still haven't seen the remains or hit by such a missile in Israel.
    If all of them were intercepted by air defense and then something of them should remain and there is no reason to hide this information from Israel. In addition, the import of such large and professionally made missiles into Gaza is practically impossible, and even more so to build a plant there for their production on site.
    From Gaza, they continue to shoot only with homemade products from surrogate materials made in small workshops, and the range has grown due to an increase in the size of missiles and / or a decrease in the warhead.
    1. 547807955
      547807955 28 May 2021 18: 01
      +3
      Yes, it's just not profitable for Israel to show it, it discredits both the army and the military-industrial complex
  12. A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 28 May 2021 17: 13
    +5
    The topic on VO has already been sorted out more than once, the bones are washed and sucked to a whiteness. Heaps of arguments, facts and figures have long been cited. I don't want to start all over again.

    The article turned out to be empty, mocking, with a bunch of factual errors. Some, the Professor pointed out.

    The author poorly distinguishes between Arab citizens of Israel living on its territory, with some starting up a conversation about the deprivation of their citizenship, and PNA citizens living in two unrelated warring enclaves. In Gaza - under the rule of religious fanatics Hamas and in Judea - under the rule of secular but corrupt Fatah officials.
    (By the way, a rhetorical question: why should Judea belong not to Jews, but to Arabs? wassat )

    The author, apparently out of his bounty, allocated to Israel "$ 4,5 billion annually to strengthen its defense capability."
    Thanks, of course.
    However, I, and I am deep enough in the subject, know only about 3,8 billion.
    Maybe the author knows who, when and where healed another 700 million annual greenbacks? I'm already starting to worry. lol
    1. domokl
      28 May 2021 18: 35
      +3
      lol
      Quote: A. Privalov
      However, I, and I am deep enough in the subject, know only about 3,8 billion

      Well, yes ... I also remember the $ 38 billion that the Americans allocated in 2016 for 10 years. And we won't count the rest? Like, these little things don't interest us ... bully
      1. A. Privalov
        A. Privalov 28 May 2021 19: 21
        +2
        Quote: domokl
        lol
        Quote: A. Privalov
        However, I, and I am deep enough in the subject, know only about 3,8 billion

        Well, yes ... I also remember the $ 38 billion that the Americans allocated in 2016 for 10 years. And we won't count the rest? Like, these little things don't interest us ... bully

        We will. They are very interested. Only, please, without mysterious hints and in detail. hi
  13. Thrifty
    Thrifty 28 May 2021 17: 24
    +1
    Another question is, how long is peace there? Each side has its own intentions, and each side wants its own revenge! You can talk about peace, but when you have an armed neighbor at your side, you cannot live peacefully - this is the logic of both sides! So, a paradox, but the most important thing is that a third party did not intervene in the conflict, otherwise the entire region would have flared up!
  14. 547807955
    547807955 28 May 2021 17: 59
    +6
    I have been here since 2000, May 12, when the shelling began at 20.30, I found myself in an open area, the nearest houses were 200 meters away. Buses seemed to be flying by. Neither 2012 nor 2014 was anything like that.
    1. domokl
      28 May 2021 18: 41
      +5
      The fact of the matter is that only Hamas worked. 4070 missiles out of 6000 available. Iran sent an answer for the jabs of its own territory ... And the missiles are really combat ones. But there is one more opponent. You know about him .. And there are 8000 open source rockets. and everyone is really fighting, not self-made ...
      Therefore, something must be urgently addressed. Israel is a small country. Forced to count its citizens by name. And the mess if the Arabs come to an agreement among themselves will be terrible ... who cares?
      1. sidoroff
        sidoroff 28 May 2021 19: 51
        +4
        "The Guardian: Iranian plant that exploded" produces drones for Hamas
        24/05/21 11:51:23
        The Isfahan plant, where the massive blast, which affected 9 people, was related to the production of Iranian drones, and the blast itself came days after Israel said Iran was supplying drones to Hamas. "
        such, you know, squiggle ..
      2. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 28 May 2021 22: 03
        +6
        It is impossible to solve anything urgently.
        Not in Israel's conflicts with Arabs or Iran,
        nor in Russia's conflicts with its neighbors.
        Problems are solved patiently and gradually.
        Through - in turn - peaceful diplomacy, military force,
        political pressure, economic cooperation.
        First one thing, then another - according to the current situation.
        And in a few decades there is hope for a peaceful neighborhood.
        1. ccsr
          ccsr 29 May 2021 09: 31
          -6
          Quote: voyaka uh
          And in a few decades there is hope for a peaceful neighborhood.

          Do you yourself believe that you will get along peacefully with the Arabs? I don't think you believe it ....
          1. zlinn
            zlinn 29 May 2021 14: 14
            +5
            yes why not, because this is a fait accompli, the Jews get along quite well with their Arab fellow citizens (with the exception of a few incidents of a rather hooligan nature), they also get along quite peacefully with Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia (although there is no peace treaty and diplomatic relations, but also there have not been any armed incidents for more than 50 years), the UAE, Bahrain, Morocco, Sudan, etc. and if Syria and Lebanon would not have listened to the stupid advice from the USSR and then from Iran, then they would get along well with Israel, and they themselves would have lived better ... and if it were not for the enchanting greed of Arafat and his entourage, in September would already celebrate the 21st anniversary of Palestinian independence
            1. ccsr
              ccsr 29 May 2021 18: 14
              -4
              Quote: zlinn
              after all, this is a fait accompli, Jews get along quite well with their Arab fellow citizens

              Jews and Russians could not get along in the USSR, accusing them of anti-Semitism, and they will definitely get along with Arabs - tell this tale to more naive people, not to those who grew up in the Union.
              Quote: zlinn
              if Syria and Lebanon would not have listened to stupid advice from the USSR

              Again, the USSR is to blame for everything - it turns out in the current intifada, as well as in the fact that our Jews rushed to Israel for sausage. Don’t put our brains into powder, here many remember how things were in the USSR with Jewish emigration, and therefore they won’t believe you.
              Quote: zlinn
              and if not for the enchanting greed of Arafat and his entourage,

              So who was stopping you from finding a replacement, since everything in the Middle East is under control and everyone loves you there?
              1. atalef
                atalef 29 May 2021 18: 31
                +2
                Quote: ccsr
                Jews and Russians could not get along in the USSR, accusing them of anti-Semitism

                well, of course there was anti-Semitism, but not to such an extent that it would not get along
                Quote: ccsr
                and they will definitely get along with the Arabs

                oddly enough, but they get along
                Quote: ccsr
                and not to those who grew up in the Union.

                well, in the USSR, not only you grew up
                Quote: ccsr
                Again, the USSR is to blame for everything

                fact. without the USSR, there would be no Arab-Israeli war
                Quote: ccsr
                as well as the fact that our Jews rushed to Israel for sausage.

                I didn’t hear any more nonsense for sausage 7. now in Russia with sausage is fine. why aren't they coming back?
                Quote: ccsr
                here many remember how things were in the USSR with the Jewish emigration, and therefore they will not believe you.

                sure . You know everything, you have not been to Israel - but you know everything. you know everything about the Jews - not being a Jew. and did not repatriate - but you know everything about immigration.
                Balabol you my friend
                Quote: ccsr
                So who was stopping you from finding a replacement, since everything in the Middle East is under control and everyone loves you there?

                enchanting nonsense.
                1. ccsr
                  ccsr 29 May 2021 18: 47
                  -3
                  Quote: atalef
                  well, of course there was anti-Semitism, but not to such an extent that it would not get along

                  Tell this to those who are now writing to the forum from Israel - they will refute you and talk about their sufferings in the USSR, compared to which the current intifada is just a minor misunderstanding.
                  Quote: atalef
                  fact. without the USSR, there would be no Arab-Israeli war

                  This is a heinous lie - the construction of a Greater Israel was not planned by the USSR. So we don't need to tell us our fairy tales - it won't work for us.

                  Quote: atalef
                  now in Russia with sausage is fine. why aren't they coming back?

                  And who needs them here, especially since all the warm places are occupied, and no one will give them up to them. And they perfectly understand this, especially since many have children and grandchildren there, so they have nowhere to go.
                  Quote: atalef

                  sure . You know everything, you have not been to Israel - but you know everything. you know everything about the Jews - not being a Jew. and did not repatriate - but you know everything about immigration.
                  Balabol you my friend

                  I had too much experience with them, so I know how you can lie when it suits you. So I'm not a balabol, but you in this case, because you hope that your antics will work here. But the harsh reality puts your life in a completely different light - in vain you hope that no one sees it.
                  1. atalef
                    atalef 29 May 2021 19: 34
                    +1
                    Quote: ccsr
                    Tell this to those who are currently posting to the forum from Israel

                    i am from israel
                    Quote: ccsr
                    they will refute you and tell you about their sufferings in the USSR,

                    there were people who faced anti-Semitism directly and I know them the same personally. you can’t talk for everyone, you don’t know
                    Quote: ccsr
                    This is a heinous lie - the USSR did not plan to build a Greater Israel.

                    this is not a lie . without military advisers. political support and mountains of weapons transferred by the FSU to the Arabs, none of them would have dared to go to war
                    Quote: ccsr
                    So we don't need to tell us our fairy tales - it won't work for us.

                    you can live in your fairy tales.
                    Quote: ccsr
                    And who needs them here, especially since all warm places are occupied,

                    do you think that people go only for something?
                    or you don't know the concept of a historical homeland and your own country?

                    Quote: ccsr
                    , so they have nowhere to go.

                    there is always where to go and today the outflow from Russia is much greater than the return
                    Quote: ccsr
                    I had too much experience with them, so I know how you know how to lie when it suits you.

                    well yes . you, as always, are all so poor and most honest.
                    Quote: ccsr
                    So I'm not a balabol, but you in this case, because you hope that your antics will work here.

                    grimaces 7 what are you talking about?
                    Quote: ccsr
                    But the harsh reality puts your life in a completely different light.

                    the harsh reality says one thing - the standard of living in Israel is an order of magnitude higher than in Russia.

                    Quote: ccsr
                    hoping in vain that no one sees it.

                    of course they see and envy. request
                    1. ANB
                      ANB 30 May 2021 00: 22
                      0
                      ... the harsh reality says one thing - the standard of living in Israel is an order of magnitude higher than in Russia.

                      And you can read more, about "an order of magnitude", otherwise my friend left and was not in a great delight. Although he left in the 90s, when it was really bad in Russia.
                      By the way, we ought to look for him, maybe he has already returned.
                    2. ccsr
                      ccsr 30 May 2021 10: 06
                      -4
                      Quote: atalef
                      there were people who faced anti-Semitism directly and I know them the same personally.

                      So they deliberately lied to be considered victims, although the Israelis themselves are now organizing pogroms in their historical homeland.
                      Quote: atalef
                      and mountains of weapons transferred from the Soviet Union to the Arabs, none of them would have dared to go to war

                      Of course, you don’t remember the mountains of weapons handed over to Israel at Stalin’s order.
                      Quote: atalef
                      do you think that people go only for something?
                      or you don't know the concept of a historical homeland and your own country?

                      Of course behind this. Yes, and not all "patriots" of the historical homeland reach Israel - I saw enough of them in Germany in the nineties, they cleverly settled on the "social program" and settled forever in Europe together with their offspring. Apparently they were not familiar with the concept of "historical homeland" since they settled where Jews were most exterminated.
                      Quote: atalef
                      the harsh reality says one thing - the standard of living in Israel is an order of magnitude higher than in Russia.

                      For some reason, the people who visited there did not notice this. But the fact that you live in constant fear is noticeable even at airports, so your standard of living is just a linchpin for new immigrants.
                      Quote: atalef
                      of course they see and envy

                      "Krasnodar" tell this - he is in no hurry to return to you.
                    3. And Us Rat
                      And Us Rat 31 May 2021 22: 52
                      +1
                      Quote: atalef
                      i am from israel

                      Don't feed him. You can see that this is a provocateur with a set of mossy clichés.
            2. Iris
              Iris 30 May 2021 20: 02
              +1
              after all, this is a fait accompli, Jews get along quite well with their Arab fellow citizens (with the exception of a few incidents of a rather hooligan nature)


              Quite normal, do you think?
              Those who entered an Arab village (in Israel, not in the Autonomy) run the risk of being lynched. Riots and pogroms in mixed cities evoke memories of the times of the British Mandate. Rarely does a day pass without attempted car or cold-weapon attacks by, in most cases, Arab citizens of Israel. During the intifada, the Arab woman warned by the martyr - a student at the University of Jerusalem, by the way - did not even scratch to call the police to try to prevent the death of people.
              Burning forests, attacks on lonely passers-by are cruel, because there are no witnesses; stones and Molotov cocktails in the windows of cars, buses, trams and in the windows of houses ..
              The word "get along" is not suitable for this, it seems to me. It would be more correct to use a word, albeit one of the same root, but somewhat different in meaning - to survive.
      3. And Us Rat
        And Us Rat 31 May 2021 22: 46
        0
        Quote: domokl
        a mess, if the Arabs agree among themselves, it will be terrible ...

        I can understand ignorance in the topic under discussion, it is forgivable, nature has not endowed everyone with the opportunity to become an erudite, but to flaunt this ignorance, puffing out cheeks meaningfully is tragicomic.
        I can recommend an educational program on the history of the region, not a panacea, of course, but with due diligence there is a chance to become less ridiculous in the eyes of knowledgeable people. yes
  15. bobwings
    bobwings 28 May 2021 18: 22
    +7
    In fact, the actions of Hamas really prove a complete lack of understanding of the structure and spirit of Israeli society, and many of our ill-wishers are infected with this, screaming at every corner about the "threat to the country", the near end of the "State of Israel" project and more detailed information. Their actions, rocket attacks, incitement by Israeli Arabs and threats are nothing more than a mosquito bite, measuredly dismissing the lion's degrees. They probably do not even come close to understanding the real scope of the country's military power, which, for example, in the recent conflict used no more than a few percent of its capabilities. Moreover, Hamas is the best vaccine against progressive decay, preventing Israel from turning into a plump, lazy Western country that has forgotten its national idea. By the way, Israel has a great potential to become such ... But fortunately, once every few years, the population is reminded who its real enemy is, local squabbles fade into the background, motivation to serve in the army grows, scientists' brains begin to think faster. From there, the iron dome, the discovery and destruction of underground passages, which were the main threat back in 14 year, the technical breakthrough and the close adoption of the Iron Beam, and many other surprises.
    The biggest threat to Israel is to leave it alone. The Jews are already gnawing themselves, as it already happened 2000 years ago.
  16. ccsr
    ccsr 28 May 2021 19: 10
    -3
    In general, the article correctly reflects the current situation during this war, but the author's conclusion on reconciliation is somewhat inconsistent with the real state of affairs:
    I will put forward, perhaps, a utopian theory for resolving the conflict.
    It is just necessary to transfer living together to another level of mutual influence. It is necessary for symbiosis to arise. So that both peoples, living together, mutually help each other. The Jewish people did what they can do well, and the Palestinians do what they can do.

    This will never happen, because on the mental and genetic level, the Jews will not become "brothers" of another branch of the Semites - this is unambiguous, and they themselves do not hide it.
    What distinguishes this war from previous intifadas is the massive launch of missiles with different ranges, which of course was not the case before. From this we can conclude that those who support and finance the Palestinians will bet on short-range missiles, and then it will turn out that Israel's nuclear weapons are absolutely useless to use against those who border on them.
    So Israel is not really threatened by Iran's nuclear programs, although this in itself carries a danger, but by the fact that the Palestinians have found a new effective form of struggle in the form of a massive launch of a large number of missiles, the equipment of which can be changed not only in the direction of increasing the power of the charge, but also the use of bacteriological or chemical weapons.
    The criticism of the article by the Israelis cannot be taken seriously - they are a little shit from such a massive launch, so they are trying to keep a good face in a bad game. I think that they need to correctly assess the new reality, and not stand in a pose that we are supposedly cool and bend the Arabs into a ram's horn - fig you, either you need to destroy them all within a radius of 200 km from Israel, or you will have to face even larger missile attacks in future. There is no alternative, however, our former compatriots think that everything will resolve by itself - well, well ...
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 29 May 2021 02: 23
      +1
      About a little cheated - do not judge by yourself, the use of chemical and bacteriological weapons will lead to a parallel response, moreover with more advanced types of the same self laughing but about itself will not resolve - it's true.
      1. ccsr
        ccsr 29 May 2021 09: 30
        -4
        Quote: Krasnodar
        About a little cheated - do not judge by yourself,

        Yes, stop hanging noodles for us - judging by your hysterical comments, you obviously did not have enough toilet paper.
        Quote: Krasnodar
        the use of chemical and bacteriological weapons will lead to a parallel response,

        Against the entire Arab world or only against your border neighbors? Will you harm yourself?
        Quote: Krasnodar
        but about itself will not resolve - it's true.

        Well, at least you don't hide it, so you personally understood that life in Russia is better.
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 29 May 2021 11: 57
          -1
          Yes, stop hanging noodles for us - judging by your hysterical comments, you obviously did not have enough toilet paper

          Who was hysterical here? ))
          Against the entire Arab world or only against your border neighbors? Will you harm yourself?

          And they will not harm themselves? (neighbors)
          Well, at least you don't hide it, so you personally understood that life in Russia is better

          laughing I feel good everywhere, about better - it is better for a normative person (home-work-vacation) to live there. Safer yes , nourishing, longer.
          1. ccsr
            ccsr 29 May 2021 12: 16
            -2
            Quote: Krasnodar
            Who was hysterical here? ))

            Professor, Privalov and your whole gop-company together with you.
            Quote: Krasnodar
            And they will not harm themselves? (neighbors)

            They have more frostbite on their heads than you, and in the end you will suffer more.
            Quote: Krasnodar
            better to live there. Safer

            Yes, after a thousand missiles not shot down, living in Israel has certainly become safer ...
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 29 May 2021 14: 30
              -3
              Professor, Privalov and your whole gop-company together with you.

              You, for sure, can give examples wink
              They have more frostbite on their heads than you, and as a result, you will suffer more.

              laughing Quite the opposite - otherwise they would not have survived in the Middle East
              Yes, after a thousand missiles not shot down, living in Israel has certainly become safer ...

              For every 100 thousand people dying in Israel from wars, terrorist attacks, road accidents, crime, there is a much larger number of people dying only from “everyday life” and crime in the Moscow Region. As a result, "thousands of missiles not intercepted" killed 12 people hi
              1. ccsr
                ccsr 29 May 2021 18: 24
                0
                Quote: Krasnodar
                For every 100 thousand people who die in Israel from wars, terrorist attacks, road accidents, crime, there is a much larger number of people dying only from “everyday life” and crime in the Moscow Region.

                Our Moscow region is twice as large as the whole of Israel, but the population in the entire agglomeration is more than twice that of Israel, and is the largest metropolis in the world, where there are several million visitors alone. This is where the problems of large settlements come from - people from all over Russia come here, even Israelis find work here, like you, for example, but you work in another region. But rockets have not been flying over our heads since the days of Stalin's rule, so your comparison does not roll ...
                1. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 29 May 2021 18: 38
                  -2
                  How does it not roll? We are talking about killed for every 100 thousand people, what difference does it make how many people live in the region? ))
                  Mathematics is a chance to die in Israel and a chance to die in the Moscow Region from a violent death.
                  1. ccsr
                    ccsr 29 May 2021 18: 52
                    0
                    Quote: Krasnodar
                    We are talking about killed for every 100 thousand people, what difference does it make how many people live in the region? ))

                    So the Moscow region is one of the leading in the world, and life here is completely different than in provincial Israel, which is why there are more various events, including criminal ones, because this is typical of Paris, London and New York.
                    Quote: Krasnodar
                    Mathematics is a chance to die in Israel and a chance to die in the Moscow Region from a violent death.

                    In the Moscow region, there is no chance of Palestinians dying from missiles, and your human losses will only increase, and even from pogroms - this is understandable even without mathematics.
                    1. Krasnodar
                      Krasnodar 29 May 2021 19: 06
                      -3
                      So the Moscow region is one of the leading in the world, and life here is completely different than in provincial Israel, which is why there are more various events, including criminal ones, because this is typical of Paris, London and New York.

                      New York - yes, London - no, I don't know about Paris. In Israel, money is also in bulk, real estate is more expensive than Moscow, just there, thanks to the small territory, the threat of terror, waves of emigration, strict control over the crime situation is carried out - visual, undercover, etc. And less class, causing social tension.
                      In the Moscow region, there is no chance of Palestinians dying from missiles, and your human losses will only increase, and even from pogroms - this is understandable even without mathematics.

                      No missiles, no beatings, incl. objects - there are much more in Moscow. I’m not even talking about the schemes of squeezing out business, real estate and other things, which is absolutely unthinkable in Israel. And about the pogroms - the Israelis themselves are not gifts lol
        2. bobwings
          bobwings 29 May 2021 11: 59
          -1
          For anyone in Israel, from the beginning. from the general staff to ordinary people, the massive use of missiles was not a surprise. Here this topic is constantly being discussed in the media, by the way, mostly left-liberal. So no one did it, no horror-stricken refugees to quieter places of the country (like in 2006), no defeatist sentiments.
          Hamas threatened to bombard Tel Aviv, unaccustomed to shelling, with rockets, while its residents were sitting in cafes at that time and discussing the war to the bitter end.
          This conflict will not end in the near future, it is clear to everyone. Israel will adopt new protective equipment, now the Iron Beam is on its way. The effectiveness of Arab strikes will decrease each time, and the damage to them will grow. The hour is not far off when they will find more effective means against the Hamas Metro than bombs, and then they will eventually have a complete pi-e in the crucible of a fiery hell.
          And Israel will continue to flourish.
    2. And Us Rat
      And Us Rat 31 May 2021 23: 05
      +1
      Quote: ccsr
      There is no alternative

      What would we do without your couch analytics? crying
      You do not adequately assess the impact of your defeatist propaganda on the target audience.
      In the eyes of the Israelites, your moaning looks something like this:

      1. ccsr
        ccsr 1 June 2021 12: 16
        -1
        Quote: And Us Rat
        What would we do without your couch analytics?

        Judging by the fact that you began to comment on it, you personally cannot live without it.
        Quote: And Us Rat
        In the eyes of the Israelites, your moaning looks something like this:

        In the eyes of Privalov, for example, who left one of the best and safest cities in the world for an Israeli hole, apparently my "lamentations" make it possible to somehow evaluate the choice he made and explain to his descendants that they would not make such a mistake. But he certainly won't admit it ...
  17. zenion
    zenion 28 May 2021 19: 28
    -2
    If she was not needed, she would not exist. In order for her to be given $ 30 million. They are not stupid to throw rockets for nothing. But the paying one seems to have gone bankrupt. There is a rumor that there will be a new government.
  18. Vitaly gusin
    Vitaly gusin 29 May 2021 11: 43
    +6
    Before analyzing the article, not a great introduction
    OPTION FIRST
    There are many people in a large, dark room.
    They look for a way out, go bump into each other, some apologize, others swear.
    Suddenly, a faint light appears in the corner of the room, everyone gathers around, a man stands and presses a candle to his chest.
    And he starts to move and everyone follows him.
    He leads them forward, everyone sees the door and EVERYTHING with him leave the room.
    OPTION TWO
    The same room, the same people.
    A man stands in the center and holds a lighted candle high above his head on an outstretched hand.
    And people in the room suddenly see that there are a lot of doors in the room.
    The person continues to stand and illuminate and people each go out the door that he WANTSand not where they lead ..
    In the first version, it is PROPAGANDIST
    And in the second it is JOURNALIST.
    And now to the article.
    Destroyed a hundred kilometers of the so-called "Metro", the Hamas system of underground passages? And what is the victory here? Except for a certain number of militants hiding in these tunnels before the raid? These communications are also easily restored, but in other places.

    Everything is colored, these are tunnels that would take 10-15 years to build hundreds of millions of dollars, and with such a dense building, this is not what it was before.
    On the one hand, the United States is actively supporting Israel. $ 4,5 billion annually to strengthen Israel's defenses says something
    Firstly, not 4,5, but 3,8 and does not speak, but held by law for 10 years.
    A-120, R-160, M 180, Ayash-250. As you understand, the number in the name is just the firing range. This means that Hamas missiles can already inflict strike throughout Israel!
    Please look at the map of Israel as. we realized that you do not own this.
    232 killed Palestinians, of which 64 are children, also a victory? Maybe 1900 wounded Palestinians are a victory?
    "On May 21, 2021, the Maan agency cites the following dаta: 248 dead, of which 66 are minors"
    Do you understand the difference between the words children and minors
    With one movement of the hand, minors turn into children.
    I will explain this to you before the age of 18, you can even see, these are Hamas fighters.

    I spoke with specialists who understand air defense by an order of magnitude more than mine. According to their estimates, the "Iron Dome" showed an efficiency of 50 to 60%
    They talk to grandmothers on the bench, read real military observers and not propagandists.
    ... In the conditions of urban development, it turns into a conventional weapon of destruction, which we saw in reality. Any eastern city is built up in such a way that it is impossible to destroy an object without destroying many others around.
    Look carefully GLASSES IN NEIGHBORHOUSES REMAINED INTEGRATED

    You will find pinpoint strikes of the Aerospace Forces in Syria yourself.
    UNDERSTOOD WHY I WRITTEN THE INTRODUCTION?
    1. Iris
      Iris 29 May 2021 17: 34
      +1
      In general, fantastic, of course! I would not know the truth, I would have thought that it was industrial sappers who were removing an old building for a construction site.
  19. Iris
    Iris 29 May 2021 18: 40
    0
    The military in such conflicts has a greater chance of surviving than civilians.


    That's exactly the opposite. Especiallywhen it comes to Israel.
    Although which of the Hamas members are "military"? .. So, illegal combatants. And, according to the Geneva Convention, the concept of a prisoner of war does not extend to illegal combatants, they are subject to criminal prosecution in accordance with the internal law of the state that detained such a person. trial and investigation ".

    Understanding perfectly this circumstance, they climbed underground in view of what they thought was a real threat of a ground operation. We stayed there. They would readily confirm the fallacy of the author's thesis about their "greater chance of survival", but now only naked virgins in the palaces of paradise are listening to their voices.
  20. Shahno
    Shahno 29 May 2021 20: 48
    +5
    "A little more than 4000 missiles were fired on the territory of the country. Of which 610 simply did not reach Israel. About half were shot down by the" dome ", some (from 10 to 15%) did not even hit the territories of cities and fell outside settlements." +
    "According to their estimates, the" Iron Dome "showed an efficiency of 50 to 60% and loses its effectiveness with massive shelling from"
    Dear analyst ... You have just stated that 1500 missiles hitting settlements led to only 12 deaths ...
    Let me not believe you, a priori this is a different order ..
  21. congress
    congress 30 May 2021 09: 17
    0
    So the Moscow region is one of the leading in the world, and life here is completely different than in provincial Israel.
    1. congress
      congress 30 May 2021 09: 28
      0
      You, like smart Soviet officials, judge the place of the country in the world by volume indicators - the size of the territory and population. This is a pluperfect, long gone.
      By what parameters is the Moscow region one of the leading in the world? The GDP of only one state of Texas (population - only 30 million) is greater than the GDP of Russia (population - 145 million), and compared to California, Russia is simply ........ !!!!
      The GDP of "provincial Israel" is 42 thousand dollars per person, and of Russia - 11. Without oil, gas and other raw materials, Russia's GDP per capita, in general, would have collapsed to Ukrainian. The structure of Russia's export is more than 70 items - oil, gas, other raw materials (including the pride of the country - grain), semi-finished products of ferrous metallurgy. Israel's export structure is primarily high-tech products. Israel is 7th in innovation, Russia is 50th. And so on. So who is a backwater, if without patriotic chants and banal anti-Semitism.
      1. ccsr
        ccsr 30 May 2021 10: 14
        -3
        Quote: kongress
        By what parameters is the Moscow region one of the leading in the world?

        For example, in space and military technology, intellectual developments and many more parameters that determine modern life, including quality education and medicine, and the Gamaleya Institute has proved that it is the best in the world.
        So who is a backwater, if without patriotic chants and banal anti-Semitism.
        Of course, Israel, where our fugitive criminals like to hide, knowing that they will not be extradited from this hole, otherwise their stolen money will not go to the Israeli treasury.
        1. Vitaly gusin
          Vitaly gusin 30 May 2021 11: 26
          -2
          Quote: ccsr
          For example, in space and military technology, intellectual developments and many more parameters that determine modern life, including quality education and medicine, and the Gamaleya Institute has proved that it is the best in the world.

          All this is very good, but the return on their activities is visible in the statistics and will not work with a bang.
          GDP per capita in Moscow is $ 23000, and in the Moscow region $ 9000
          So before Israel, the Moscow region, as well as the whole of Russia, needs to work very, very hard, and not puff out its cheeks, this has a negative effect on the economy.
          1. congress
            congress 30 May 2021 13: 02
            0
            If the Moscow province catches up with Israel at the current pace, it will become completely unattainable for her. With such "patriots" Russia does not need enemies!
        2. congress
          congress 30 May 2021 12: 34
          -3
          "By what parameters is the Moscow region one of the leading in the world?"
          For example, in space and military technology, in intellectual developments and many more parameters that determine modern life, including high-quality education and medicine, and the Gamaleya Institute has proved that it is the best in the world. "
          All this is on the blue eye! In what "intellectual developments" Russia has outstripped Israel, if in the innovation rating Israel is 7th in the world, and Russia is 57 ?! Why, with such super-quality education and medicine, all your elite prefers to be educated and treated in the damned West, and, first of all, in Israel? If your institute of Gamaleya is the best in the world, why then the second Silicon Valley was created in Israel, and Skolkovo remained an object of local importance in a single, unparalleled country?
          As for fugitive criminals who migrated from Russia to Israel, this is for the talk show of Skarabeeva-Popov. There it is - with a bang!
          Yes! Listing on a blue eye the outstanding successes of your historical homeland, you have missed, indeed, the real achievement of Russia, it is in the thirty most corrupt countries in the world, and Israel - well, a wretched, criminal country! - is among the most uncorrupted!
          And the Ministry of Health warns: anti-Semitism is deadly in large doses! And in small ones it leads to complete prostration of common sense and pale sickness! You still have this - not fatal, but the prostration of common sense - is evident!
          1. ccsr
            ccsr 30 May 2021 17: 13
            +2
            Quote: kongress
            And the Ministry of Health warns: anti-Semitism is deadly in large doses!

            You will soon forget about him altogether, as soon as you have to return to Russia, because the last shelling of Israel is not the end of the Israeli-Arab wars.
            So take care of your fuse, or better, like Krasnodar, look for a place where you would be better off. I don’t offer Ukraine and Odessa - Bandera’s people will not let you live there, so forget the pen Berdichev, Lvov and Kiev.
            Quote: kongress
            In what "intellectual developments" Russia has overtaken Israel, if in the rating of innovations Israel is in 7th place in the world, and Russia is in 57th place ?!

            This is according to your small-scale development, and not on rocket and nuclear technology - you just do not understand the difference due to the poor idea of ​​what is important for us.
            Quote: kongress
            Why, with such super-quality education and medicine, all your elite prefers to be educated and treated in the damned West, and, first of all, in Israel?

            This is all a lie, and those who were treated in Israel often bitterly regret the money spent, because there is no benefit from your treatment, but you have learned well how to suck money out of the sick.
            So tell your agitation to those who do not know how you live there and what you can do.
            1. Vitaly gusin
              Vitaly gusin 30 May 2021 18: 56
              -3
              Quote: ccsr
              You will soon forget about him altogether, as soon as you have to return to Russia, because the last shelling of Israel is not the end of the Israeli-Arab wars.

              Perhaps because of your age or lack of education, or lack of knowledge of history, or simply because of anti-Semitism, you cannot correctly assess the situation.
              This was not a war, but a military operation, Operation Wall Sentinel.
              The Israeli Air Force showed, first of all, to those who itch in one place, that they can scratch and not weakly,
              But the war was when the state, which no longer exists, the USSR, and which in fact had a huge military potential and wanted to destroy Israel with the hands of Egypt and Syria.
              As you lead, Israel only got stronger and increased its population, and it was opposed
              tremendous power.

              For sending to Egypt was selected 32 thousand Soviet generals, officers and soldiers. By March 1970, the grouping of Soviet troops in Egypt included:
              18th special-purpose anti-aircraft missile division (commander Major General A.G. Smirnov, personnel strength - 1.5 thousand people) as part of 4 anti-aircraft missile brigades (had the designation of regiments):
              1st air defense brigade / 559 air defense brigade (commander Colonel B.I. Zhaivoronok);
              2nd air defense brigade / 582 air defense brigade (commander Lieutenant Colonel N.A. Rudenko);
              3rd air defense brigade / 564 air defense brigade (commander Major V. Belousov);
              4th Airborne Brigade (commander Colonel Shumilov);
              Center for Electronic Warfare (commanded by Lieutenant Colonel A.K. Ismakov).
              a fighter aviation group (senior group Major General of Aviation G.U. Dolnikov) consisting of:
              35th separate fighter squadron (30 MiG-21MF, 42 pilots - commander Colonel Yu.V. Nastenko);
              135th Fighter Aviation Regiment (40 MiG-21MF, 60 pilots - commander Colonel K.K. Korotyuk);
              90th separate long-range reconnaissance squadron for special purposes (Tu-16R, Be-12, Tu-16P, Il-38);
              a detachment of ships of the Black Sea, Baltic and Northern fleets as part of the 5th ("Mediterranean" ") squadron of the USSR Navy;
              a group of military advisers and specialists (Chief Military Adviser (GVS) and senior group of military specialists Colonel-General IS Katyshkin (1968-1970), he is also the commander-in-chief of the Soviet special forces group in Egypt.
              The losses of the Arab coalition were: 40 thousand people killed, wounded and captured, over 900 tanks, over 1000 artillery barrels and over 400 aircraft. All this was supplied by the USSR.
              Therefore, before frightening with what is left of the USSR, and some Arab countries think.
              1. ccsr
                ccsr 30 May 2021 19: 04
                +3
                Quote: Vitaly Gusin
                This was not a war, but a military operation, Operation Wall Sentinel.

                Whatever you call it, thousands of rockets have been launched at Israel by those you don't even consider an army. As they say, what was it?
                Quote: Vitaly Gusin
                For sending to Egypt, 32 thousand Soviet generals, officers and soldiers were selected.

                For thirty years there has been no USSR, and your case with shelling is getting worse and worse. Is the USSR to blame for this, too?
                Quote: Vitaly Gusin
                All this was supplied by the USSR.

                And now who supplies everything to the Palestinians-also the USSR? Or are our general secretaries still running the intifada?
                Quote: Vitaly Gusin
                Therefore, before you scare with what is left of the USSR, and some Arab countries, think about it.

                It’s better for you to think about what will happen next and can start looking for a safer place for your grandchildren. Well, and I wish you only to hold on tightly to your historical homeland - terrorists must be contained on the frontiers far from Russia. We must have at least some benefit from our former compatriots - so the flag is in your hands.
                1. Vitaly gusin
                  Vitaly gusin 30 May 2021 19: 30
                  -3
                  Quote: ccsr
                  You better think about what will happen next,

                  From the whole set of letters and words, I can only single out this
                  You better think about what will happen next,
                  This is only 10% of Israel's capabilities
                  Israel's economy is a developed free market economy. Israel occupies 35th place on the World Bank's Ease of Doing Business Index ... It takes the second largest number of startups in the world after the USA and the third largest number of companies listed on the NASDAQ, after the United States and China... American companies such as Intel, Microsoft, and Apple built their first overseas R&D centers in Israel and other high-tech multinationals such as IBM, Google, HP, Cisco Systems, Facebook and Motorola open R&D centers in the country .
                  The main sectors of the country's economy are technology and industrial production; the israeli diamond industry is one of the world centers for diamond cutting and polishing, accounting for 23,2% of all exports.
                  Dead Sea Works is the fourth largest producer and supplier of potash products in the world... It can be enumerated for a very long time.
                  Over the past years, Russia has reduced the sale of weapons abroad by 22%, and Israel has increased by 77%
                  Today Israel is a country winner of the crown all restrictions removed
                  And the country that in August 2020 shouted to the whole world WE are the FIRST announced today red zone of the disease
                  OPEN EYES AND EARS AND CLOSE MOUTH lol
                  1. ccsr
                    ccsr 31 May 2021 10: 39
                    -1
                    Quote: Vitaly Gusin
                    Israel occupies

                    And in missile strikes on Israeli territory, now you rank first in the world - you have something to be proud of for the rest of your life ...
                    Quote: Vitaly Gusin
                    OPEN EYES AND EARS AND CLOSE MOUTH

                    Yes, we have known everything about you for a long time, so save your lies for new repatriates, in the hope that there will still be fools in Russia to go to their historical homeland. I wish you success in your propaganda work, but I'm afraid here for that audience, they did not stake on those.
                  2. congress
                    congress 31 May 2021 12: 45
                    0
                    How can he open his eyes and close his mouth if he, and people like him, and there are a great many of them in Russia, are deaf-blind and dumb from birth! And even with a fool! And this is worse than the coronavirus! This is incurable!)))))
                  3. Sunstorm
                    Sunstorm 31 May 2021 17: 52
                    -1
                    Quote: Vitaly Gusin
                    Today Israel is the country that won the crown all restrictions have been lifted

                    Write it down on your calendar. By the way, Belarus is a country that did not impose restrictions, according to the AHL, “won the crown” many times already.
            2. congress
              congress 31 May 2021 12: 42
              0
              Why are you hysterical like Vaska the Blessed! Do you think they will also put a temple of God for you on the Intercession ?! You, an anti-Semitic petty grave, will erect a monument in the village, you will be a stone drunk!
              The anti-Semitic breed is getting smaller! In the Scriptures: there is a lot of sorrow in many knowledge! And people like you have zero knowledge, one sadness! And it brings such boredom and delusion from you, as from a bum at the station. Write less often, think more often (if you have something!), So that your nonsense is not so noticeable! Good luck with this hopeless endeavor! Until!
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      2. Sunstorm
        Sunstorm 31 May 2021 17: 58
        0
        Quote: kongress
        The structure of Russia's export is more than 70 items - oil, gas, other raw materials (including the pride of the country - grain), semi-finished products of ferrous metallurgy.

        Let's take a look not about the domineering RBK for 20 years .... https: //www.rbc.ru/economics/15/02/2021/6028f9c79a794754fdb4362e
        "For the first time in two decades, exports of energy resources (oil, gas, coal) accounted for less than half of total Russian exports (49,6%)."
  22. Prisoner
    Prisoner 30 May 2021 11: 07
    0
    Why is it not needed by anyone? If the opposing parties do not need it, this does not mean that some third party does not need it. But to whom? This is the question.
  23. steelmaker
    steelmaker 31 May 2021 10: 50
    -1
    The author has forgotten that during these 11 days Israel has forgotten about Syria, and even more so about Iran. And he still does not remember. Conclusion: "The more often Israel receives tinsel, the longer peace will last!"
  24. Kostadinov
    Kostadinov 31 May 2021 15: 37
    +1
    if Syria and Lebanon would not have listened to stupid advice from the USSR

    The USSR is long gone, and the improvement is not visible. It looks like the problem is in the US foolish advice to Israel.
  25. Sunstorm
    Sunstorm 31 May 2021 17: 49
    0
    Quote: Knell Wardenheart
    But the Israelis will draw conclusions from this - they will throw more shekels on the fan of the defense industry, they will sit more tightly on the supply channels to Palestine, and most importantly, now they have a model of how much and for how much the enemy can build a shaitan-pipes. They will undoubtedly take this model into account in their air defense / missile defense calculations.

    I remember our colleagues writing from Israel talked about "Iranian missiles" and not about homemade products. So 4000 is clearly not the limit.
  26. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 3 June 2021 09: 44
    +2
    Not needed by anyone? As far as I understand, the war began with the fact that the Jews set fire to one of the main Muslim shrines, and then began publishing mocking and blasphemous streams. So "someone" needed the war very, just very much. It would be desirable to consider this to whom and why. However, the current "journalists" are afraid to consider the real culprits and their motives. Oh well...
  27. xorek
    xorek 4 June 2021 20: 19
    -3
    Everything remains the same .. But you still have to negotiate, no matter how you extol yourself
  28. tima_ga
    tima_ga 6 June 2021 21: 15
    0
    Quite good analytics, except for, perhaps, a bland conclusion.
    I would also add that Israel did not go to the escalation and the ground operation due to its unwillingness to run into discontent on the international arena, in particular, among the Arab League members, which could eventually lead to losses, including financial ones.