Lukashenka about the incident with the plane: It is difficult to imagine what would happen if the nuclear power plant safety systems went into full combat readiness

The President of Belarus commented on the incident with the forced landing of a Ryanair aircraft in Minsk.

We remind that earlier the Belarusian side published a part of the text transcript of the negotiations between the dispatcher and the crew of the airliner flying through the airspace of Belarus. The dispatcher said that a letter had been received, which contained information about the presence of an explosive device on board the aircraft. The pilot tried several times to clarify who exactly received such a letter. As a result, a decision was made about an unplanned landing, which took place in the capital of the Republic of Belarus. After this landing, as you know, the ex-editor-in-chief of the Nexta channel, Roman Protasevich, was detained. His companion, a 23-year-old Russian citizen, was also detained.

According to Alexander Lukashenko, the plane changed course, heading to the Minsk airport, being in the area of ​​the Belarusian nuclear power plant. According to the first person of the republic, "it is difficult even to imagine what could have happened if the safety systems of the nuclear power plant had been triggered by going into full combat readiness."

Lukashenko:

We could not do otherwise against the background of the number of messages about all kinds of mining that come from different IP-addresses, primarily from Poland.

According to the statement of the President of Belarus, the Belarusian authorities acted on the basis of international norms, protecting the lives of people.

Recall that earlier in the Republic of Belarus noted that in connection with reports of a possible finding of a bomb on board the Athens-Vilnius liner, a threat arose for the republic's nuclear energy. It was noted that terrorist groups in different countries of the world at different times have repeatedly announced possible attacks on nuclear power plants using hijacked aircraft. Previously, such threats were sent from unknown persons to the Belgian and French nuclear power plants, but, fortunately, were not implemented.

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[Thrifty]

Lukashenka gives training to the snakes on how to spin under the pitchfork so that you don't get hooked. ...

[Volodin]

Quote: Thrifty

gives training to snakes

Rather, a head start))

[For example]

Everything was within the framework of international agreements.
So all went to the forest.

The country over which the plane is located has the right to land it, so it does.


And dolbonos need to think before shoving their bodies into the plane.

[Lannan Shi]

Quote: For example

The country over which the plane is located has the right to land it, so it does.

It has. But. In extremely limited cases.
Chicago Convention.

Article 3bis
b) Contracting States recognize that each State, in exercising its sovereignty, has the right to require a civil aircraft to land at any designated airport, if it flies over its territory without permission or if there are reasonable grounds to believe that it is used for any purpose incompatible with the purposes of this Convention, or may give such aircraft any other direction to put an end to such violations.

The permission was there. The plane was used strictly for the transportation of passengers. There was not a single reason for a forced landing.
By the way, ICAO has already said that the landing smacks of violation of the convention. And if it remains in this position, the RB may well be left without aviation. More precisely, with her, but without the right to fly abroad.

[For example]

Quote: Lannan Shi

The permission was there. The plane was used strictly for the transportation of passengers. There was not a single reason for a forced landing

Why such confidence?

How long have you been familiar with this issue?
Don't go to a fortune teller - a week ago and did not hear about the Chicago Convention.
What do you know about

Your indignation at someone else's mind is concocted.

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: Lannan Shi

Is it possible to believe even a single word of the official Minsk. Actively referring to Athens.

Do you trust the Lithuanian police?
After the interrogation of the pilot, there was a statement from the Lithuanians that the decision to land in Minsk was made by the pilot, after agreement with the management of the airline.
Who's got who, what and where has stolen?

[Lannan Shi]

Quote: Captain Pushkin

Do you trust the Lithuanian police?

Not really.

Quote: Captain Pushkin

After interrogating the pilot, there was a statement from the Lithuanians

Can you link to the original? I am frankly lazy to sift through the English-speaking Internet in search of the pilot's statements. Our media ... Dismiss.
But here is the reaction of IFALPA and ECA (pilots' associations, if chu, international and European), who declared the crime of interference of all kinds of ground baskets in the actions of the aircraft pilot, as the bae hints that our media has once again lied, and attributed to the pilot what he did not tell.
Quote. From the joint statement of the associations. Yeah.

IFALPA and ECA stress that the pilot-in-command always has the best overview of the actual situation on board and must be able to react according to the level of risk, regardless of external circumstances. Any measures taken by States to address a specific threat should enhance the crew's ability to assess the situation thoroughly.
Any military intervention against a civilian aircraft constitutes a wilful hazard to the safety of passengers and crew. IFALPA and ECA urge States and the International Aviation Community to investigate and take swift measures against similar occurrences. We also call upon the airline to provide full support to the pilots and cabin crew on board, both during the future investigation and regarding their physical and mental well-being after such a challenging and stressful event.

I don’t understand the howl that rose in defense of the basket. The fact that at best he is not a friend of Russia is an indisputable fact. If right now the same proto is put in his place, Russia will not get any worse. It's just that a hidden enemy, pretending to be a creepy friend, will be exchanged for an obvious enemy. And of all things that. Belarusians? The question is interesting, but I have something to do with them ... The fact that the basket went too far is also a fact. Would you like to abide by the Chicago Convention? And fly where you want? What's the question. Don't obey. And fly wherever you want. But within the RB. The collective farm is voluntary. They are not forced to. What is the problem then?

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: Lannan Shi

oh, here is the reaction of IFALPA and ECA (pilots' associations if chu, international and European), which declared the crime of interference of all kinds of ground baskets in the actions of the plane pilot, as the bae hints that our media has once again lied, and attributed to the pilot what did not tell.

Your passage only says that you do not know the meaning of your quote.
Read the translation and compare it to your writing:

IFALPA and ECA stress that the pilot-in-command always has the best overview of the actual situation on board and must be able to react according to the level of risk, regardless of external circumstances. Any measures taken by States to address a specific threat should enhance the crew's ability to assess the situation thoroughly.
Any military intervention against a civilian aircraft constitutes a wilful hazard to the safety of passengers and crew. IFALPA and ECA urge States and the International Aviation Community to investigate and take swift measures against similar occurrences. We also call upon the airline to provide full support to the pilots and cabin crew on board, both during the future investigation and regarding their physical and mental well-being after such a challenging and stressful event.

IFALPA and ECA emphasize that the pilot-in-command always has the best view of the actual situation on board and must be able to respond according to the level of risk, regardless of external circumstances. Any measures that States take to address a specific threat should enhance the crew's ability to carefully assess the situation.
Any military intervention against a civilian aircraft constitutes a deliberate threat to the safety of passengers and crew. IFALPA and ECA urge States and the International Aviation Community to investigate and act promptly in such cases. We also urge the airline to provide full support to the pilots and flight attendants on board, both during a future investigation and with regard to their physical and mental well-being after such a difficult and stressful event.

[Vladimir Mashkov]

Quote: Captain Pushkin

Do you trust the Lithuanian police?
After the interrogation of the pilot, there was a statement from the Lithuanians that the decision to land in Minsk was made by the pilot, after agreement with the management of the airline.
Who's got who, what and where has stolen?

I totally agree with you! And with the decision of the Belarusian authorities to use the fighter as a means of protecting the BNPP from accidental / deliberate damage to it perhaps an airplane filled with explosives.

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: Vladimir Mashkov

I totally agree with you! And with the decision of the Belarusian authorities to use the fighter as a means of protecting the BNPP from accidental / deliberate damage to it, possibly by an aircraft filled with explosives.

The role of the fighter was somewhat different. He was in the role of the leader-guide, leading the liner along the trajectory most safe for ground targets in the event of an explosion on board.

[saturn.mmm]

Quote: Vladimir Mashkov

I totally agree with you! And with the decision of the Belarusian authorities to use the fighter as a means of protecting the BNPP from accidental / deliberate damage to it, possibly by an aircraft filled with explosives.

The Belarusian authorities made a wise move, instead of driving out the supposedly mined plane, which was located near the Lithuanian border, it turned to the city of two million. Apparently in Minsk they wanted to profit from explosives.

[saturn.mmm]

Quote: Sergey Averchenkov

Look at all this more simply - there are "ours" and "not ours", "not ours" must be pressed, but ours must be loved and forgiven

[den3080]

How did you land the plane with the President of Bolivia?
Or "is it different"?

[Lannan Shi]

Quote: den3080

How did you land the plane with the President of Bolivia?

And he was not imprisoned at all. He sat down himself. He was denied passage through his airspace. And not Austria refused. Do not find it. that we will not let it go, is it really somewhat different than letting it go, and then intercept it? Sitting in a vein is the pilot's choice. Well, or his superiors. He could have come back with equal success. There would be enough fuel. But there was no point in coming back.
There is no need to repeat the words of Zakharova. If she is smarter than a dog, then she carefully hides it. Carries exactly the same nonsense, with exactly the same clever look.

[den3080]

It is clear :) "this is different" ...
And how did Belavia's plane with Martirosyan return to Zhulyany under threat of interception?

[Lannan Shi]

Quote: den3080

It is clear :) "this is different" ...

Ugums. But for you, apparently, a sign - a brick on the road, and a brick firing line - one and the same. Wow? And there are bricks, and here are bricks. and to go into details below your dignity.

Quote: den3080

And how the Belavia plane was returned to Zhulyany

Um ... Can you remind me of the epithets with which it is customary to apply to Ukraine in VO? Country 404, fascists, nazis, criminals, extremists. We urgently need to send the tanks to Kiev. As an option, YaB zhahnut on him. Divide into zapadentsev, of which the Poles, and the rest to us. And chu? Do you think I'm against it? So start talking about the basket as a criminal, terrorist, etc., etc. If you think that I will object to posts, with statements about the need to occupy Minsk, to include it in the Russian Federation, and to whip up the mustache on the lantern, then you are greatly mistaken. All paws for.
By the way. while your mustache-inadequate idol is in power, such a scenario is the only possible option for the unification of Russia and the Republic of Belarus.
That's the finish line. It seems that you will not be able to come up with anything funny and new.

[Dva parovoza]

An interesting answer to the Belavia plane landing: fierce game about anything, but not about landing. You are so "adukovanaya" ... I want a child from you.

[Thompson]

That I am tormented by vague doubts ... such a cute photo on my profile picture and such courtyard jargon !!! Here, rather, not even a daughter, but the son of an officer

[RUSS]

Quote: den3080

It is clear :) "this is different" ...
And how did Belavia's plane with Martirosyan return to Zhulyany under threat of interception?

Is it different when a balloon with two Americans was shot down over Belarus? Two corpses, and Belarus was deliberately warned that balloons would fly in Poland near the border.

[alex neym_2]

Several years ago, without any bomb on board, under the threat of 2 fighters, it deployed and landed a Belarusian airliner and took off a passenger ... and silence ... Maybe the gamerope is very much afraid that Protasevich will tell something that they want to hide.

[Remo]

There were no fighters, there was only an SBU officer with a pistol at the head of the dispatcher

[Thompson]

or if there are reasonable grounds to believe that it is being used for any purpose incompatible with the purposes of this Convention, or may give such aircraft any other direction to put an end to such violations.

Those. we don’t notice it in principle!
Can you remind me who the plane from Iran was flying with, shot down by mattress mats ???
And our TU over the black sea with whom flew downed by VSUshniki ??? Hypocrisy and dishonesty have become the norm in Western politics. Just a fact

[Piramidon]

Quote: For example

Everything was within the framework of international agreements.
So all went to the forest.

The country over which the plane is located has the right to land it, so it does.

Have you heard about double standards? Only "democratic" countries have this right. "Quod licet Jovi, non licet bovi. (From Lat. -" What is permitted to Jupiter, not permitted to a bull ")

[TANKISTONE]

[Quote]For example

And dolbonos need to think before shoving their bodies into the plane.
[/ quote] Another lamb was sent to the slaughter. They kill two assholes (at least): they get rid of the waste material and provide a pretext for new sanctions (attacks).

[saturn.mmm]

Quote: Volodin

Rather, a head start))

My wife, a teacher, friends invited to Turkey in the summer to stay for a couple of weeks on the Aegean Sea.
They sit with colleagues and think about how to get to Turkey.
Here's a handicap.
Protasevich was detained and what will change? Will Lukashenka's Vanity Tickle? There are thousands of such bloggers. But the planes do not fly over the Republic of Belarus anymore. And NEXTA has a new editor-in-chief.

[Tatyana]

Yes, they did everything right in Belarus, suggesting that the crew of a foreign civilian plane land the plane early in Minsk to inspect it for reports of a bomb on board and the upcoming explosion of the plane in the sky of Lithuania.
Moreover, the message about the bomb on board the Ryanair plane flying from Athens to Vilnius came from "neutral" Switzerland.
It would be worse if the Belarusians ignored this message - and a civilian foreign plane would really explode in the sky over Lithuania after flying over the Republic of Belarus.

In general, Western experts are increasingly inclined to believe that in this case there was a provocation from the West itself against Belarus and against Lukashenko himself.

[alexmach]

Yes, they did everything right in Belarus, suggesting the crew of a foreign civilian plane to land the plane ahead of schedule in Minsk for its inspection

Tatyana, let's tell the truth. The Belarusians carried out a successful special operation, and they are great. Lukashenka is spurned not at all convincingly, well, he is no longer young, and they suspect that he is not quite healthy.

In general, Western experts are increasingly inclined to believe that in this case there was a provocation from the West itself against Belarus and against Lukashenko himself.

Oh-oh-very unlikely. Why do they need such a provocation? They couldn't have sanctioned them without it? Do you look at the Czech Republic for example? Why would they do anything at all to do this, just talk? And why should they give Lukashenka these "zmagars" who, after all, will tell a lot of interesting things?

[Tatyana]

Quote: alexmach

Quote: Tatyana.
In general, Western experts are increasingly inclined to believe that in this case there was a provocation from the West itself against Belarus and against Lukashenko himself.

Oh-oh-very unlikely. Why do they need such a provocation? They could not impose sanctions without her? <...>And why should they give Lukashenka these "zmagars" who, after all, will tell a lot of interesting things?

To be honest, this situation is quite reminiscent of the situation with the same Navalny, whom the West, having returned to the Russian Federation, simply handed over to the Russian Themis in the "torture chambers" of Russia!

The collective West and the Russian Federation have their own game on the geopolitical "chessboard".

By analogy with Navalny and the Russian Federation, foreign experts argue in the same way in relation to Roman Protasevich and his partner and R.Belarus to Lukashenko. There may be 2 reasons:
1) conceal the failure of the Polish special services, which provided state protection to Protasevich;
2) check R.Belarus for the strength of Lukashenka's deflection to the West - and not only. For on the eve of the planned meeting of Biden with Putin, it would seem, in the same Switzerland.
It is possible that Biden, in response to the US's "concession" to Russia, to allow her to finish building the SP-2, will demand from Putin to yield to Washington and the collective West of Belarus and hand over Lukashenko to them.

[alexmach]

To be honest, this situation is quite reminiscent of the situation with the same Navalny, whom the West, having returned to the Russian Federation, simply handed over to the Russian Themis in the "torture chambers" of Russia!

Doesn't resemble at all, not even remotely similar.

1) conceal the failure of the Polish special services, which provided state protection to Protasevich;

What? Hide the failure in protection simply by giving up the protected person? I don't understand.

2) check R.Belarus for the strength of Lukashenka's deflection to the West - and not only.

I ask you, what else to check there, after the last year then.

It is possible that Biden, in response to the US's "concession" to Russia, to allow her to finish building the SP-2, will demand from Putin to yield to Washington and the collective West of Belarus and hand over Lukashenko to them.

Eat something he will eat, but who will give him?

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: Tatiana

Western experts are increasingly inclined to believe that in this case there was a provocation from the West itself against Belarus and against Lukashenko himself.

Judging by the instant and completely inadequate reaction of Britain, it was her special services that played out this two-move. The main thing in this story is to accurately calculate the time of sending the message. Further, everything is on the machine:
1. Landing of the plane at the nearest airport in Minsk.
2. The arrest of a renegade, tk. he was charged with a crime, put on the wanted list and is located at the Interpol base.

[Tatyana]

Quote: Captain Pushkin

Judging by the instant and completely inadequate reaction of Britain, it was her special services that played out this two-move.

Yes! This is partly true!
"British ears" in the development of this two-step are clearly visible!

In addition, "Good Old England" is historically no stranger to organizing provocations of international discord around the world in other countries - this is her favorite colonial policy in establishing the hegemony of the Anglo-Saxons over all the peoples of her "world order" disunited by her!

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: Tatiana

"British ears" in the development of this two-step are clearly visible!

It looks like it was a "three-way".
It turns out that after reports of the bomb, the airports of Lithuania, Poland and Ukraine refused to accept the board. The pilot was actually forced to land in Minsk. And it was definitely not Lukashenka who did it.
It looks like a "consolidated position", and in advance ...

[Remo]

Switzerland, Lithuania and Greece have officially denied that they received information about the mining of the plane. And Hamas was even very indignant that his "good" name was used in this operation

[Thompson]

They won't say that now! And their mother will be abandoned for a consolidated opinion

[Remo]

As for Lithuania, a mistake came out, I apologize.
The Dossier Center, together with The Daily Beast and Der Spiegel, managed to obtain and analyze a copy of the email sent by the “Hamas representative”.
23 May:
- at 12:25 pm Belarusian time, the administration of "Lithuanian Airports" received a letter with the threat of a bomb explosion on board the flight FR4978 by e-mail
- at 12:30 the plane entered the airspace of Belarus.
- at 12:33 the dispatcher informed the pilot that a letter with a message about the bomb had been sent to several airports at once
- at 12:47 the plane changed course and flew towards Minsk
- at 12:57 p.m. Belarusian time, a copy of the letter from the user Ahmed Yurlanov was sent to the e-mail of the National Airport of Minsk ([email protected]), that is, almost half an hour after the transmission of a message about a possible mining of the side.
The Greek Civil Aviation Authority said it had not received a bomb threat letter at the Athens airport.

[Vend]

Quote: Thrifty

Lukashenka gives training to the snakes on how to spin under the pitchfork so that you don't get hooked. ...

Lukashenko is a fine fellow, masterfully played on the stream of lies from Western Internet provocateurs. They say you don't want the planes to land one by one, just don't overwhelm the invader with lies. Bravo President of Belarus.

[dauria]

Lukashenko is a fine fellow, masterfully played on the stream of lies from Western Internet provocateurs.

Here I started to make excuses in vain. I twisted the sharpers around my finger - and that's enough. The Euro-pack did not come out with a snout to talk to her as if they were honest.
I would just say "Here is a mirror for you, look at your deceitful hari"

[LiSiCyn]

Dear friends, if you keep your finger on the news pulse, then you know that right now Aleksandr Ryhoravych Lukashenka declares that:

⁃ There is unprecedented pressure on RB. This is their envy because of the impotence that the coup d'etat failed.
⁃ Belarus is a country of proud people with a keen sense of justice.
⁃ Nothing came of the sanctions - now they want to kill us.

Aleksandr Rygoravych, dear friends, is an amazing person.

Man-Afghanistan.

He is the government troops, and the Taliban, and money from drug trafficking, and weapons from the black market, and a cemetery of civilizations in one suit.

For centuries the spooks have been holding a perimeter defense against all newcomers with weapons in their hands, swearing and shouting to come one at a time?

"Patrymayetse mayo piva!" - Lukashenka says to them, pampers his mustache, straightens his jacket, picks up the microphone and performs such a multi-axis crocodile that it only remains to open his hands.

No other place in the world has such a magician anymore.

Europe and the United States cannot do anything about it, because our Federation is behind it. And Russia cannot do anything with him, because ...

However, our Federation and you do not need to do anything with Alyaksandr Ryhoravych. It is quite enough for us to close his creative potential in the western direction and continue the processes of deep economic and political integration. After all, almost 9,5 million people who are culturally and ethnically close to us live on the territory of Belarus, and we inevitably form a single demographic pool with them.

And about Alyaksandr Ryhoravych, let Europe grind its teeth into powder. You see, the whole bloc today is trying to fence one state, they are straining, they are imposing sanctions, and Ryhoravych goes out and goes to them with a microphone and characteristic fricative phonetics.

Man-Afghanistan. Political cemetery of civilizations.

[Horde] - dear, spiteful, yours.
TgK "Horde".

[JD1979]

Quote: Wend

Lukashenko is a fine fellow, masterfully played on the stream of lies from Western Internet provocateurs. They say you don't want the planes to land one by one, just don't overwhelm the invader with lies. Bravo President of Belarus.

You be more careful on the Internet with sympathy))) otherwise you yourself know the winds of change, they planted such a plane today with some))) and tomorrow they can also with you))) a bad example is contagious - one showed, the other repeated and rushed, so do not fly, just in case, over the countries about which you are unflattering answer)))

[Vend]

Quote: JD1979

Quote: Wend

Lukashenko is a fine fellow, masterfully played on the stream of lies from Western Internet provocateurs. They say you don't want the planes to land one by one, just don't overwhelm the invader with lies. Bravo President of Belarus.

You be more careful on the Internet with sympathy))) otherwise you yourself know the winds of change, they planted such a plane today with some))) and tomorrow they can also with you))) a bad example is contagious - one showed, the other repeated and rushed, so do not fly, just in case, over the countries about which you are unflattering answer)))

I am not a traitor-liberal, I have nothing to fear. US plane landed, who said what? NO, but here it is just persecution, from impotence.

[Maz]

Ah well done Batko! Ai clever! Oh, MAN! Respect and respect.

[mojohed2012]

All the same ... Even if Lukashenka exposes video recordings, witnesses, material evidence and other reliable facts, that Biden personally, as part of the committee of chiefs of staff, coordinated all the persecution of him. Even if Biden himself, in his old age, blurts out somewhere, confirming that it was he and the NATO special services who tried to kill him with all the mess. Even if it is confirmed that the information about the bomb came from Switzerland, Greece or from somewhere else, the Anglo-Saxon and Russophobic world simply will not see it. There, on TV and in blogs, they will simply remain silent. And they will persecute, making the situation with the arrest of the former Bandera and Azov fighter, the editor of Nekhta, extraordinary and "unprecedented" in the world in the entire history of mankind.

[Victorio]

Quote: mojohed2012

All the same ... Even if Lukashenka exposes video recordings, witnesses, material evidence and other reliable facts, that Biden personally, as part of the committee of chiefs of staff, coordinated all the persecution of him. Even if Biden himself, in his old age, blurts out somewhere, confirming that it was he and the NATO special services who tried to kill him with all the mess. Even if it is confirmed that the information about the bomb came from Switzerland, Greece or from somewhere else, the Anglo-Saxon and Russophobic world simply will not see it. There, on TV and in blogs, they will simply remain silent. And they will persecute, making the situation with the arrest of the former Bandera and Azov fighter, the editor of Nekhta, extraordinary and "unprecedented" in the world in the entire history of mankind.

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this is for sure, it is useless to prove, assert and justify, the collective West will squeeze the maximum out of this story

[sifgame]

For a long time already it is necessary to stop doing such crap as proving something to the Western world, an absolutely useless occupation, you need to bend your line, and give out information as much as you need, in your own interests. Exactly how they do it against us.

[aszzz888]

sifgame (Igor)
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For a long time already it is necessary to stop doing such crap as proving something to the Western world, an absolutely useless occupation, you need to bend your line, and give out information as much as you need, in your own interests. Exactly how they do it against us.

Your words, yes to our Foreign Ministry, the country's leadership ... I think we will come to this. Only when and at what cost is a question.

[lis-ik]

Quote: aszzz888

Your words, yes to our Foreign Ministry, the country's leadership ... I think we will come to this. Only when and at what cost is a question.

We will come, only after the system of values ​​and priorities of the leadership of the Russian Federation is radically changed or changed.

[Cananecat]

Quote: mojohed2012

It doesn't matter ... Even if

Science fiction in the next section ... (c)
And so, yes ... learn from mistakes. Some on their own, some on strangers ...

[Roman070280]

Even if they put on display how Lukashenka personally orders to put and detain Protasevich, there will still be those who will continue to blame the West for this ..)))

[prior]

The whole world has already forgotten about Israel's attacks on Gaza, where hundreds of innocent people died.
But everyone blames Belarus for terrorism, which acted in accordance with international standards, and where not a single person was killed.
Death does not threaten even Protasevich, who called for terrorist attacks.
Gentlemen euro-savages. You cynical hypocrites.

[Uncle lee]

Quote: prior

cynical hypocrites.

There are other definitions, but they are completely obscene ...

[prior]

Perhaps the time will soon come for such definitions.
I remember it somehow slipped ...

[Uncle lee]

Quote: prior

the time will come for such definitions

They are considered non-diplomatic .... Khrushchev alone did not know about this and threatened to show the bourgeoisie "Kuz'kina's mother"!

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote from Uncle Lee

Khrushchev alone did not know about this and threatened to show the bourgeoisie "Kuz'kina's mother"!

Khrushchev was a man. And the man said - the man did.
He ordered the "Kuzkin Mama" 50 Megatons to fly over Novaya Zemlya. I wanted to be 100, but the scientists and the military categorically refused.
Immediately after this show, the Americans proposed to start negotiations on strategic nuclear arms control.

[Roman070280]

and where not a single person died.

And if someone else was there, and should have perished ??)
Dude, stupidly for the sake of politics, in an arrogant way they just detained ... landing an airplane for this .. hiding behind some international norms .. like now, according to the norms, you can delay any plane like that ..
Someone else would have died there ..
However, there is enough to rake the mustachioed for a long time without that.
This dictatorship is already creeping out of the country

[prior]

If it breaks a fart, take espumisan.

[Roman070280]

I have no doubt that you know a lot about farts, and about what makes them heal faster with ruptures ..
But, nevertheless, I would recommend not to deviate from the topic .. For everything else, there are medical forums ..

[tolancop]

We landed the plane. And not hiding behind the norms, but in full compliance with them. Checked and sent further along the route. And the fact that there was someone on board who was put on the wanted list by the RB is a nice bonus.
And it’s even boring to remind you of how the detractors of Belarusians act contrary to international norms.

[Roman070280]

not hiding behind norms, but in full compliance with them.

That is, if some conditional Zelensky wants to remove the conditional Medvedchuk from the plane .. comes up with Hamas and a bomb .. and lands an airplane for this .. all this will be considered "in full compliance with the norms" ??)

[tolancop]

Of course. And what was (and was) invented, by whom and where, will have to be dealt with on the ground. After.

[Roman070280]

Of course. And what was (and was) invented, by whom and where, will have to be dealt with on the ground. After.

You have to live with such people in the same country ..))
Tomorrow he will kill me on the street .. and will sincerely believe that all this is in accordance with the norms .. And to disassemble - this is later ..

Yes, in fact, about any deliberate and planned crime, you can say so ..
We have different norms, nevertheless ..))

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: Roman070280

You have to live with such people in the same country ..))
Tomorrow he will kill me on the street .. and will sincerely believe that all this is in accordance with the norms .. And to disassemble - this is later ..

Yes, I was not lucky with the country ... They will sort it out, different problems will begin ...
Maybe it's better to move to Britain? There, if people like you are killed, then no one will understand for sure. And no problem.

[Roman070280]

... They will sort it out, different problems will begin ...

The problems are not that they will start to understand, but that before the trial people are not able to understand what is normal and what is not ..

Maybe it's better to move to Britain?

But try this ..

There, if people like you are killed, then no one will understand for sure.

I haven’t been killed anywhere yet, and I haven’t even been there .. so I will believe you a word ..

[Incvizitor]

Porosenko had already planted the plane of Belavia, threatening to shoot down an innocent person, and here the enemy of the country was on the wanted list.

[Roman070280]

enemy of the country

Do not confuse personal wool with state.
Enemy of Luke ..

[Incvizitor]

He is pro-Western means an enemy of humanity, unworthy to live, if he were independent then it is a completely different matter.

[NDR-791]

Quote: Roman070280

Dude, stupidly for the sake of politics, in an arrogant way they just detained ... landing an airplane for this .. hiding behind some international norms .. like now, according to the norms, you can delay any plane like that ..

Tell him that. We don’t need it.

Quote: Roman070280

This dictatorship is already creeping out of the country

Oh, really, and don't say !!! We didn't notice

[Roman070280]

Tell him that.

He just condemned this act ..

We don’t need it.

Of course you don't need ..
Under Snowden, you shouted that this is impossible, now shout that everything is done correctly .. So I won't tell you anything .. because it's useless ..))

Oh, really, and don't say !!! We didn't notice

Here I agree .. You really did not notice how many people in the photo, "dictatorially" seized power in the country .. Where are they to Lukashenka ..))

[NDR-791]

Quote: Roman070280

Under Snowden, you shouted that this is not possible, now shout that everything was done correctly ..

And I don't really care. Only if one can, then others can. And now it is a fact !!! They called themselves, eat with a bun.
And more about that ...
That is, if some conditional Zelensky wants to remove the conditional Medvedchuk from the plane .. comes up with Hamas and a bomb .. and lands an airplane for this .. all this will be considered "in full compliance with the norms"

There is no need for any conditional.
October 21, 2016 in Ukraine. The airliner Boeing 737-800 of the Belarusian airline "Belavia" performed the international regular passenger flight В2-840 on the route Kiev - Minsk. At the request of the SBU and under threat to raise the fighters, he was forced to return to the Zhulyany airport. After landing, journalist and blogger A. Martirosyan was detained and later released.

[Roman070280]

And I don't really care. Only if one can, then others can. And now it is a fact !!!

Believe it or not, I don't care too ..
But I believe that this is impossible .. and consistent in my opinion .. And I do not change it like some ..))

And one should not be equated with others ..
The states are imposing sanctions against us, Europe is imposing ... butting with each other, swearing ... but it's okay ..
If Luka decides that since one can do it, then the other can too .. and will introduce something similar too .. He will really be a kirdyk !!
Do we understand now the difference about Jupiter and Bull ??

No need for any conditional

Whether it is necessary or not - choose for yourself.
We both understand that there is nothing "in full compliance with the norms" either in your example or in mine ..

[NDR-791]

Quote: Roman070280

We both understand that there is nothing "in full compliance with the norms" either in your example or in mine ..

So I think ... Why bustle then? And to wave sanctions? And call upon your head the thunders of heaven? Just a little different. Now, if your wife at the entrance will be pawed by a neighbor on the ass, you will also paw on his ass in return ??? I think I'm wrong.

[Roman070280]

So I think ... Why bustle then?

That's why they are buzzing because

there is no "in full compliance with the norms"

Now, if your wife at the entrance will be pawed by a neighbor on the ass, you will also paw on his ass in return ??? I think I'm wrong.

You are wrong in the example itself ..
If the Mongol-Tatars, during their raids on Russia, grabbed our women by the asses (to put it mildly), then no one did this in response ..
I just mentioned this just above ..

The states are imposing sanctions against us, Europe is imposing ... butting with each other, swearing ... but it's okay ..
If Luke decides that since one is possible, then the other can.. and will also introduce something similar .. He will really be a kirdyk !!
Do we understand now the difference about Jupiter and Bull ??

[aszzz888]

Novel070280 (Novel)
Today, 12: 16

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Tell him that.

He just condemned this act ..

The gelding got sick.
Today he was offered, on one of the TV programs, to fly the route to Cuba, for example. Interestingly, after how many kilometers of flight the plane will land the Merikatos Air Force? , and he himself will be covered for 175 years.

[Roman070280]

The gelding got sick. angry

So you think Snowden should have approved the hijackings ??
Mdaa ..))

[Revival]

"Tell him this. But we don't need it."

And what do we need to tell the Morales?
More details please.

[Blacksmith 55]

This whole operation was planned and carried out by someone's intelligence, I think the Belarusian one.
Now everyone is pointing a finger at Lukashenka.
But how many times have other countries done the same. Just one example: when they were looking for Snowden, if I am not mistaken, on the plane of the President of Bolivia.
Then the French and Spaniards closed the sky, they had to sit in Vienna.
Oh yes, they were democratic countries.

[Roman070280]

Do not equate ..
Snowden is a real spy - the USA can be understood with their reason ..
Protasevich is not a terrorist, but he made a bad film .. So Luka was offended, and even his reason for this can be understood ..
But those who used to be indignant (under Snowden) that it is impossible to do this ... to land planes, etc., and now they suddenly changed their shoes, and claim the opposite - they say, everything was done correctly .. that's their reason for such duplicity, I don't understand ..

And the second thing .. where is the USA, and where is RB .. We compared a horse with a turtle ..

[Blacksmith 55]

Snowden is not a spy at all, he did not work for anyone's intelligence. He exposed his own country, i.e. USA.
And the Americans wanted to punish him.

[Roman070280]

He exposed his own country, i.e. USA.

I wrote - the United States can be understood with their reason.

[VORON538]

Simply put: Americans can, Belarusians can't, because "THIS IS OTHER" :)))

[Roman070280]

Perhaps I really say it is too difficult for someone .. Sorry if so ..

[VORON538]

But how can we understand your "Euro-Lord". :)))

[Roman070280]

I don't have any masters .. so you wouldn't even "understand" them ..))

[VORON538]

And, of course, you always have an "independent opinion", like the rest of the population of the censor and echo of matzo What a puddle they will say and shout! This became especially noticeable with your shielding of Americans, Ukrainians and accusations of Belarusians!

[Roman070280]

And, of course, you always have an "independent opinion",

This is always the case with me ..

like the rest of the population of the censor and echo of the matzah

I have a vague idea what you mean ..

What a puddle they will say, and shout!

Is it so difficult for you to imagine that a person can have a really independent opinion on any issue ?? I'm sorry that your world is limited only by such a puddle ..

[VORON538]

I remember very well who I am dealing with, so I don’t need to hang my liberal noodles on my ears. Although, Khossdep's or Khodorkovsky's cookies have to be worked out, otherwise they will trample them out.

[Roman070280]

I remember perfectly who I am dealing with

Happy for you .. Worse is that you remember, but don't know ..

, so I don’t have to hang my liberal noodles on my ears.

I don't care either for your ears or for your liberals ..

Although, the Hosdep's cookies have to be worked out, otherwise they will trample them out.

You know better what to work out, and what it is fraught with ..))
Good luck..

[atakan]

Aha, an attack of justice?
Justice is dead.
There are only our and probable age-old enemies, as well as collaborators. The situation is primitive, that more justice has been brought there in Europe? Who are you ?

[Avior]

Just one example: when looking for Snowden

Do you know how Snowden himself reacted to this incident in Minsk?
Condemned, wrote that this is an outrageous case.

[Revival]

And who forcibly landed the Morales plane?
Who?

[Blacksmith 55]

He sat down himself. Where could he go?
France and Spain have banned overflights.

[Revival]

About how!
How so?

Yesterday, in the comments, he was imprisoned criminally with fighters!
Then they also searched criminally, though only in the inflamed imaginations of the commentators.

And then he sat down!

This is not the reason Lukashenka is no longer suitable, do not give him up, well, it is not the Iranian example that he can hide behind ...

And then Hamas was taken away, Greece was taken away, and now you are pulling the most valuable things out of your hands, he must not let go of the invented example from the United States ...

[Blacksmith 55]

Sorry, but you did not read my comment yesterday. You can write to anyone you like or your opinion.
So the question about yesterday's comment is not for me. And he sat down in Vienna, there are no American planes there. Austria is neutral.
He just closed the sky.

[Revival]

Of course not!
This is an example of a whole wave of pseudo "exculpatory" comments.
This wave still continues today, someone simply replicates this nonsense, and someone apparently and by design, knowing in advance that this is a fake.

I have absolutely no complaints about you!

[Blacksmith 55]

Phew, a stone fell from the heart. There was already a thought to accuse me of the forced landing of Morales' plane.

[Daniil Konovalenko]

Nobody in the world expected such a step from Lukashenka, hence the cry.

[vvvjak]

According to Alexander Lukashenko, the plane changed course, heading to the Minsk airport, being in the area of ​​the Belarusian nuclear power plant.

Where is the nuclear power plant, and where is the plane deployed? There, 100 kilometers distance, and to the border he had about 20 km left.

[UA3QHP]

A typical example of chattering a situation. It doesn't matter where the message about the mining was sent from. It is important WHO did it. Further aviation services operated in Dark.

[sifgame]

What difference does it make, there is a nuclear power plant, there is a threat, there is a criminal on board, hiley like. Fifteen per capita.

[Cron]

Quote: sifgame

What difference does it make, there is a nuclear power plant, there is a threat, there is a criminal on board, hiley like. Fifteen per capita.

That's it. Were there any reports of the bomb? There was such a legend. Could a terrorist be on board? I could. Could you turn the plane towards the nuclear power plant and what else? I could. And then everyone thinks they say it was a tram that flew strictly on the rails in the direction of the Tribaltic

[vvvjak]

Quote: sifgame

What difference does it make, there is a nuclear power plant, there is a threat, there is a criminal on board, hiley like.

Iron logic. Well then, there is a nuclear power plant; there is a constant threat (about 50 km to Vilnius and planes fly there all the time, even NATO ones); "criminals" in Vilnius are a dime a dozen (including Tikhanovskaya). Well, maybe it is necessary to stop the threat of a massive bomb attack?

[Cron]

Quote: vvvjak

Iron logic. Well then, there is a nuclear power plant; there is a constant threat (about 50 km to Vilnius and planes fly there all the time, even NATO ones); "criminals" in Vilnius are a dime a dozen (including Tikhanovskaya). Well, maybe it is necessary to stop the threat of a massive bomb attack?

And where does Tikhanovskaya in the Tribaltic and a bomb on board an aircraft located in the airspace of Belarus? You have some kind of sick fantasy

[Kisa]

Quote: Cron

You have some kind of sick fantasy

Well, okay about Hamas about the nuclear power plant, but where does this come from the same speech today ??? the transcript of the talks has already been published in all languages ​​of the world ...

The Ryanair plane, after receiving a message about mining, did not accept the airports of Vilnius, Warsaw, Kiev and Lvov. But the Minsk airport agreed to be accepted.
President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko said this on Wednesday, May 26, writes "Security Council. Belarus Today".

[Cron]

Quote: kitty

Well, okay about Hamas about the nuclear power plant, but where does this come from the same speech today ??? the transcript of the talks has already been published in all languages ​​of the world ...

The Ryanair plane, after receiving a message about mining, did not accept the airports of Vilnius, Warsaw, Kiev and Lvov. But the Minsk airport agreed to be accepted.
President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko said this on Wednesday, May 26, writes "Security Council. Belarus Today".

Belarus invented a legend to take Petrosevich as an opus. And in every legend there are a lot of inconsistencies. Everything! Why do we still need to grind something out of this story? It's like looking for inconsistencies in the history of chemical weapons in Iraq, you had to invade, come up with a legend and invaded. That's all.

[Remo]

He is still that dreamer))) Listen to him carefully and give a standing ovation)))

[sifgame]

You will add so much to the atomic war, Grygorych released Tikhanovskaya himself, and even gave money, possibly recruited)))))

[Cron]

Quote: vvvjak

Where is the nuclear power plant, and where is the plane deployed? There, 100 kilometers distance, and to the border he had about 20 km left.

It is surprisingly simple, as the matter concerns "civilized" countries and different sisans, only in this way they hang their ears and perceive everything as truth, without checking anything and not demanding any proofs. And just like everyone who is objectionable to the same "civilized" countries, they immediately calculate everything down to the millimeter.

[carstorm 11]

Not 100, but only 100. Taking into account the response time and the speed of the aircraft, there will be minutes left for a decision to destroy it.

[vvvjak]

Quote: carstorm 11

Not 100, but only 100. Taking into account the response time and the speed of the aircraft, there will be minutes left for a decision to destroy it.

Well, and that is why we need an airplane (which, supposedly, can explode at any minute) 350 km "drive" across the country and land 30 km. from a city of 2 million - so much safer for the population of the republic.

[carstorm 11]

30 km from the city are other consequences. No matter how much they put there, even taking into account the remaining fuel, the damage will be minimal.

[vvvjak]

Quote: carstorm 11

30 km from the city are other consequences.

Than 100 km from a nuclear power plant?

[carstorm 11]

100 km is the rest of the way. How long does it take for the plane to overcome them? Plus, in fact, this cannot be allowed taking into account the risks.

[vvvjak]

Quote: carstorm 11

How long does it take for the plane to overcome them?

Minutes 10. You did not understand, the plane that flies along its route and does not perform any inappropriate actions, you deployed a fighter 100 km from the nuclear power plant. In this situation, a few seconds are enough for a fighter pilot to make a decision. Accompany him to the border (literally a couple of minutes) and you can rest easy (well, if everything is so "dumb", you can be on duty near the border, suddenly he will return). So why unroll it, "drag" it across half of the country to Minsk? What does the nuclear power plant have to do with it?
The answer to this question was "posted" by the press secretary of the AHL (though she quickly deleted it later) - by personal order of the president.

[carstorm 11]

I understand you perfectly. It's just that the decision is not for the pilot to make. And why drag a completely logical explanation, I saw that the pilots were given the opportunity to choose with the recommendation of landing in Minsk. They did not continue the flight.

[vvvjak]

Quote: carstorm 11

quite a logical explanation, I saw that the pilots were given the opportunity to choose with the recommendation of landing in Minsk

They gave recommendations and a choice with the help of an armed fighter. It's like with a pistol to his temple - so-so choice.

[carstorm 11]

Something I did not hear that the pilot of the fighter would force him to land with threats. Opened shooting on the course and other activities that are performed in such cases. And the fighter was there according to all the rules. So everyone has been doing in such cases and for a very long time. So sorry, the choice of the pilots is the choice of the pilots. Nobody threatened them.

[Light]

And where else should it have been planted? Apparently the news that according to the message the bomb was supposed to explode over Vilnius passed you by.

[vvvjak]

Quote: Bright

And where else did you have to plant it?

Yes, even in Baranovichi, at a military airfield.

Quote: Bright

Apparently the news that according to the message the bomb was supposed to explode over Vilnius passed you by.

And that a bomb can only explode over Vilnius, but cannot over Minsk? Well, even if we assume that there are cunning GPS sensors, land the plane in Kaunas, this is already the problem of Lithuania (which was 2 minutes away). What does AHL and RB care about this plane? For purely altruistic reasons, the AGL decided to "save" Vilnius by endangering the inhabitants of Minsk? Yes, it is clear that this is all politics.

[Light]

What a need to land in Baranovichi, the plane is not an emergency. The dispatcher suggested Minsk, as the closest one (at that time), since it was dangerous to fly to Vilnius, or should he say: oh mommy, you have a bomb, get out of our airspace as soon as possible? The pilot himself made the decision to fly to Minsk, no one forced him, and if he hadn't been stupid for 15 minutes, there would not have been a big detour. The fighter took off for escort, just in case, maybe the terrorist and the liner will send the liner to the nuclear power plant, all according to the instructions, as I see it.

[skipper83]

You calculate the time for which the plane will fly these 100 km.

[Remo]

They do not like to be beaten with facts here. Immediately they put dislikes together. They don't like the truth. It was under 100 km to the nuclear power plant, well, maybe a little less. And she was not on the line of the plane)))

[bukhach]

It is quite a logical explanation, it looks good as an excuse for what happened, another thing is how much it corresponds to the truth, but then try to prove the opposite. Although European people do not need proof for their wants, they require this when it comes to their dark deeds, one word is a radish.

[Kisa]

Quote: Buhach

logical explanation

well, so-so explanation. about Hamas already laughed. )))
here is not the case leash to voice at least aliens. if the UN Security Council is going to meet, then every word and second under a microscope

[Operator]

In vain the Belarusians released the PIC of the Ryanair airliner - they had to detain him and convict him for 17 minutes of delay in fulfilling the ICAO protocol on the actions of the aircraft crew after receiving information from the air traffic controller about the mining of the aircraft.

[Anatole Klim]

Quote: Operator

In vain the Belarusians let go of the PIC of the Ryanair airliner

Anecdote from Andrey Norkin.
Ryanair Athens-Vilnius is flying over the territory of Belarus. The stewardess bursts into the cockpit and starts shouting: "Commander, we have been captured by Jewish terrorists." He says: “Are you sure Jewish? Maybe it's Hamas? " The stewardess replies: “No, absolutely definitely Jewish. First, they demand to sit in Bobruisk. Secondly, in the toilet they opened a point for the sale of parachutes to passengers "

[Operator]

It is desirable for the idiot Norkin to be in the cabin of the aircraft when the information from the air traffic controller about mining arrives on board, and the pilot will twist his butt for 17 minutes before starting to comply with the appropriate ICAO protocol.
I am sure that in this case, Norkin will not have enough of the entire onboard supply of toilet paper.

[Mouse]

Father, don't make excuses, they won't understand! once screeching to the whole world, then you are doing everything right!

[Kisa]

Quote: Mouse

you do everything right

you at least specify which side is correct
if on the part of the Russian Federation, then at least everyone expects the recognition of Crimea on Friday, and then on the list ..
if on the part of the Republic of Belarus, then the sanctioned sectoral tsunamis will now cover potash fertilizers oil products Belavia has already announced a reduction .... and even though most of the costs from the pocket of the Russian Federation will cover .... well, it is not very obvious that this is correct.
he had the status of a collective farm chairman a year ago, albeit with peculiarities ... and what an insane inadequate status without brakes now in a year

[Mouse]

Everyone thinks to the extent of his depravity ... specify, do not specify ...

[rocket757]

We could not have acted differently against the background of the number of messages about all kinds of mining that come from different IP-addresses, primarily from Poland.

... What's wrong??? The foreigners themselves gave birth to this DURDOM !!! Well, they wasted denyushku, not very much, by the way, now they will take revenge ...
And dad is in his right!

[aszzz888]

rocket757 (Victor)
Today, 11: 37
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We could not have acted differently against the background of the number of messages about all kinds of mining that come from different IP-addresses, primarily from Poland.
... What's wrong??? The foreigners themselves gave birth to this DURDOM !!!

Well, so a speck in someone else's eye is always more visible than a log in yours.

[rocket757]

Quote: aszzz888

Well, so a speck in someone else's eye is always more visible than a log in yours.

To call all that "mote" ... the "forest" that they heaped up ... somehow "gently" or something.
If you measure "skeletons in the closet", then dad, in comparison with their figures, is a direct angel, in the flesh.

[cniza]

Quote: rocket757

We could not have acted differently against the background of the number of messages about all kinds of mining that come from different IP-addresses, primarily from Poland.

... What's wrong??? The foreigners themselves gave birth to this DURDOM !!! Well, they wasted denyushku, not very much, by the way, now they will take revenge ...
And dad is in his right!

I'm afraid we won't find out the truth, but it won't change what has already begun ... Now we need to send them all competently through the forest.

[rocket757]

Quote: cniza

I'm afraid we will not find out the truth, but it will not change what has already begun ... Now we need to competently send them all through the forest

I have a feeling that the answer must be tough !!! The time has come.

[cniza]

I am convinced, if we do not cut it properly, we will crush it ...

[rocket757]

They'll sleep, it's not obvious ... they'll be shitting even more actively, that's for sure.

[Revival]

"What is wrong ??? The foreigners themselves gave birth to this DURDOM !!!".

Are you talking about Iran?
Well, so-so beacon of rights and laws

[rocket757]

Well, yes, the foreign gang, it is a direct light from the lights .... HA, HA.

[Revival]

What ha, ha?

Only Iran did that.
Is he your "foreign gang"?
Well, a good example, of course ..

[rocket757]

What did only Iran do, land the planes of international airlines?

[Revival]

Yes, and removed the character he was interested in from there

[rocket757]

Yes, yes, and nobody planted the plane of President Morales? The fact that they did not find the one they wanted, is it not their merit?
Or is it ANOTHER?

[Revival]

And you there too?
I did not expect a repetition of this fake from you.

Nobody forced him to jail!
Nobody searched him.
Do you trust Morales himself and the official information of Bolivia?
So check it out!

Yes, it is so different that it’s not even that!

[rocket757]

Do not tell my horseshoes ... any incident can be furnished DIFFERENTLY, in a favorable light for your side. There was an incident with the presidential plane and I never found Morales's own statement, where he would claim that their fuel gauge / gauge had just deteriorated and therefore they sat down in Vienna ..... statements by others, I am NOT INTERESTED!
Do you believe that the striped ones were on the moon ???
I have doubts, BUT, there was a statement by the Soviet Government, an official one, where, albeit in a streamlined form, the fact of transferring information from the SURFACE OF THE MOON is recognized! Until there is an official statement from the government that excludes the fact that American astronauts will land on the surface, so be it.
I am NOT INTERESTED in the chatter of all sorts of different things.
WHERE is Morales' official statement that their fuel gauge / gauge just broke ??? or did he just want to have breakfast in the company of the Austrian Chancellor ???
Find, then we'll talk.

[Revival]

Find first where it is officially stated that he was forcibly landed and searched.

There is an official statement; there was no search!
I am guided by the official information of Bolivia itself, and not Internet interpreters, speculators

[rocket757]

I wrote somewhere that the plane was searched? It would be a complete sur!
The only thing that can be corrected is that the plane had to make an unplanned landing due to problems with fuel ... and how these problems were organized, we can only guess or take someone's word for it. Although, for such incidents, an OFFICIAL COMMUNICATION is always / usually issued !!!
Where is it?

[Revival]

Ask the President of Bolivia, I don't know whether Bolivia issued a communiqué on my plane or not

[rocket757]

And why did you then decide that this is completely different?
And why did you decide that I will listen to someone's chatter?
This is not interesting to me.
By the way, I also don't like what the special services of Belarus did, but what exactly did he violate?
Compared to the "big white uncle", he is just a sucker who has not crawled out of his swaddling clothes ... defends his country as best he can.

[Revival]

What kind of chatter?
If you call the official information of Bolivia by chatter, then there is nothing to discuss, other I have no more official information

[rocket757]

What is the official information? Who has the right to make government-level official statements?
The circle of persons, departments, is limited ... and where, how to read them?
If they are not there, this is already their problem, which means that the incident will be commented on by everyone ... and this is not interesting.

[Revival]

Is Bolivia's Defense Minister right for you?)

[rocket757]

This is who is good at what.
Since when did the mines of defense begin to make state, government statements? Do they have a military junta?

[Revival]

All right, it's clear.
I have no one more official than Bolivia, stay your opinion

[Roman070280]

It suffered ..
Although, all the same .. rake in now otmazyvatsya ..

[Roman070280]

We could not have acted differently against the background of the number of messages about all kinds of mining that come from different IP-addresses.

And how many planes were planted before and after that "against the background of that number of reports of all kinds of mining"?
Or was this plane something special ??
And why in this case "We" are not the air services of the Republic of Belarus, but specifically Lukashenka, who personally made such a decision ??

[Cron]

Quote: Roman070280

And how many planes were planted before and after that "against the background of that number of reports of all kinds of mining"?

Usually they just plant it. For some reason, ours took it as a basis to make excuses.
"Belavia-840, an order has been received: you need, you need to return to the Zhulyany departure airfield. For failure to comply, combat aircraft will be raised to intercept."
And everyone is silent, everyone does not care. The flock that they give to discuss, then they procrastinate

[Roman070280]

Usually they just plant it. For some reason, ours took it as a basis to make excuses.

I don't know who yours are .. and as usual ..
It seems to me that the incident is not an ordinary one .. and there is little usual here ..
But the mustachioed grit - that such messages come in plural numbers .. And the plane landed only one ..

"Belavia-840, an order has been received: you need, you need to return to the Zhulyany departure airfield. For failure to comply, combat aircraft will be raised to intercept."
And everyone is silent, everyone does not care. The flock that they give to discuss, then they procrastinate

This is when ykpy wanted to shoot down ?? And where are they ?? There, just the same topic was hot ..
But I'm interested in exactly about "that number of messages about all kinds of mining" and the only plane ..

[Cron]

Quote: Roman070280

There, just the same topic was hot ..

Well, I don't know .... Poroshenko was recruiting a terrorist, Pyotr Alekseevich a pirate, Fat pig pirate and a terrorist, and found nothing

[Roman070280]

In 5 years you will look for Lukashenka ..))

[Cron]

Quote: Roman070280

In 5 years you will look for Lukashenka ..))

Well, I have a good memory, and I can use Google to search for information for a certain period. I say exactly, there was nothing like this on the part of the "civilized" world

[Roman070280]

The incident was, the hype was ..
There were no such censures from the West ..
Which does not justify such actions in any way, and does not give Luka any right .. Especially when you are already "under special control" ..

[Cron]

The incident was, the hype was ..

What kind of hype? The hype arises only when the temniki talk about air piracy.

There were no such censures from the West ..

Of course.

Which does not in any way justify such actions, and does not give Luka any right ..

For some reason he justifies others and gives them the right, but Luka does not? It’s strange. What is Jupiter allowed?
Jupiter can fly in someone else's airspace, expose someone else's passenger plane to danger, in which people get injured of varying severity, and you see, Luke cannot land the plane for inspection. Did he put the lives of innocent people at risk?

All the more so when you are already "under special control" ..

And these comrades have established special control, right?

[Revival]

That is, Ukraine is now an example to follow and justify for the whole world?
How long has Ukraine become a measure of "right wrong"?

[Cron]

Quote: Revival

That is, Ukraine is now an example to follow and justify for the whole world?
How long has Ukraine become a measure of "right wrong"?

And where does only Ukraine? Should I list all the incidents? He just threw off the negotiations as they landed the plane of Belarus and no one was shouting about any piracy. For Ukraine lies under the "civilized" world, while Belarus is not.
A little higher, I threw off what the US is doing in ALIEN'S airspace. Also not a yardstick?
And when the presidential board of Bolivia is planted in a foreign country, is it also not a yardstick? A whole presidential board, it's generally incomprehensible to the mind. They would have landed any passenger plane almost anywhere in the world, just Snowden was already in Russia. And they thought that he could fly from there only on the president's plane.
Here at DW they believe that the incident with the presidential plane, although it caused a great resonance, but the resonance was cut off, because Snowden was not on board.
That's it, easy and simple. There are no direct parallels

The United States and its allies destroyed an entire country under an invented pretext. Isn't that a yardstick either? And here you are talking about some kind of plane, where no one was hurt.

[Revival]

"And when the presidential board of Bolivia is planted in a foreign country, is it also not a yardstick? A whole presidential board, it is generally incomprehensible to the mind."

Yes, it is incomprehensible to the mind to ignore the fact that no one forcibly landed "the presidential board of Bolivia, the whole presidential board"!

Have you watched the situation yourself, or are you just repeating it by someone?

Nobody forcibly landed the board of the President of Bolivia!
Nobody searched him!
Well, look at least the official position of Bolivia for a start!

[Cron]

Quote: Revival

Yes, it is incomprehensible to the mind to ignore the fact that no one forcibly landed "the presidential board of Bolivia, the whole presidential board"!

Come on? And who closed the airspace thereby forcing the presidential board to land in Austria? List countries? All as one closed, only one call, apparently.
Then and in the case of Belarus, no one forcibly imprisoned. There was only a message about a bomb and a recommendation to sit in Minsk. The MiG-29 provided security. After September 11, in the United States, with suspicions of a terrorist attack on board the aircraft, fighters began to be lifted into the air, this is not surprising.
If we talk about direct coercion. Then yes, it was in Ukraine. In plain text. But you didn’t stink about this here, because no one let go of the training manual on this matter.

Have you watched the situation yourself, or are you just repeating it by someone?

I watch everything and more.

Nobody forcibly landed the board of the President of Bolivia!

Well, yes, well, yes, tell me more.

Nobody searched him!

Because according to some sources, the Bolivian Defense Minister was categorically against.
Nobody searched, but the President of Austria came there purely by chance, just to have breakfast. This is what they usually do. Yeah, yeah, we believe.

Well, look at least the official position of Bolivia for a start!

Well, let's take a look. First, Bolivia and the countries of Latin America condemned the incident, regarding it as an attempt to assassinate Morales in gross violation of international agreements.
Bolivia's defense minister condemned the abusive actions that endangered the president's life and accused the United States of having forced the plane to land.
Well, then the incident was settled. Because this is some kind of Bolivia and some kind of Latin America, and on the other hand, "civilized" hegemons.

[Revival]

Once again, yesterday excitedly shouted that fighters were directly planted and searched!

There was no such!

This is how Belarus will close its space for the flight of an airplane, then we will compare these cases.
And now one case is so different from the other that there is nothing to compare!

[Cron]

Quote: Revival

Once again, yesterday excitedly shouted that fighters were directly planted and searched!
There was no such!

What does it matter to me that they were shouting excitedly there yesterday? It wasn't me who shouted it. Landing a presidential plane with fighters is already a declaration of war.
What they did is out of the ordinary. Closing its airspace, suspecting Snowden is on board. And they did it because some Bolivian president was there. It is impossible to imagine anything like this with China and the Russian Federation.

This is how Belarus will close its space for the flight of an airplane, then we will compare these cases.

Belarus does not have such opportunities, it is not a huge European Union to force the presidential planes to land.
And they would land the plane with Snowden almost anywhere and no one would shout about any piracy. It's just that he was already stuck at the airport in Moscow. And the only way to leave the Russian Federation, as they saw it, was the presidential plane of Bolivia. The president of which did not rule out the possibility of giving him asylum. And after that, Russia provided it.

And now one case is so different from the other that there is nothing to compare!

Well, yes, well, yes, an old song about the main thing. The episodes are somewhat different.
When Belarus shakes a test tube at the UN and goes to bomb some country, then we will compare which of them is a terrorist. And so while Lukashenka has endangered innocent people. Not like when democratically hundreds of thousands were killed.
When Belarus intercepts a passenger plane in foreign airspace, where people received various injuries, and declares that everything was within the framework of international law, then we will compare who is a terrorist and a pirate.
Aren't you disgusted by yourself?

[Revival]

"And they would land the plane with Snowden almost anywhere and no one would shout about any piracy."

1. When something like this happens then we will discuss.

"That is when Belarus, in a foreign airspace, intercepts a passenger plane, where people received various injuries, and declares that everything was within the framework of international law."

2. I do not consider it an excuse for a violation that someone has already committed such a violation earlier. Not a gram.

Try to use this tactic in court, or at least with a traffic cop, like "yes, three have already passed drunk here before me, and that means I'm drunk, I'm not breaking anything, he'll certainly understand everything and let you go without a fine

[Cron]

Quote: Revival

2. I do not consider it an excuse for a violation that someone has already committed such a violation earlier. Not a gram.

Well, it's kind of logical, but they stink only about the enemies of "civilized" countries

[Revival]

This is, of course, in particular, the problem of the audibility effect.

We and someone else blame the violations committed by the "West", our "media" capabilities, well, let's say, are modest.

The West blames "our" violations, their "media" opportunities are very wide, and this effect is created.

[Burdock]

It is difficult to imagine how much the maintenance of Chiryk-chirik will cost the Russian budget. If Lukashenka walked on his own, it would be okay, but he will rush to Russia, for another bad loan. And he will never allow Belarus to enter the Russian Federation, or even the EU, if there was such a possibility. Kolenka is growing up, and the example of North Korea is so attractive and understandable that sin will not be tempted.

[sifgame]

The situation is such that there is nowhere to go, only Russia, even Lukashenka's best friends demand the imposition of sanctions against Belarus and loans alone cannot be saved here, only the union state, that's the only way.

[rotmistr60]

which come from different IP-addresses, primarily from Poland.

So Poland and Lithuania were the first to start yelling about "hijacking an aircraft", "piracy", letting go of "fighter", sanctions, a ban, etc. Within an hour, "all progressive humanity" joined them, from which some immediately remembered about Russia, which simply had to participate in this. I am sure there would not have been an airplane. They found another reason to wrinkle Belarus, and of course Russia. The failed color revolution is like a bone in the throat of Europe and, first of all, Poland and the Baltic states.

[cniza]

The play is not badly conceived, the actors are not very good, but they are already on horseback and will bend their line ...

[Mouse]

and some will not point the finger, although it was Klimkin ... urged the community to punish Russia for the edification of Lukashenka ...

[cniza]

According to the statement of the President of Belarus, the Belarusian authorities acted on the basis of international norms, protecting the lives of people.

But they all do not care, they are only afraid of what Roma can say ...

[Mikhail3]

The United States behaves like the masters of the planet. They want to detain the plane, and they do. However, their master's behavior more and more irritates this very planet. And here are some who began to do something ... Of course, Lukashenka did his feint immeasurably more elegant than the American arrogant blockheads. And IN WORDS you will not present any claims to him. All around right!
But the world situation is very sour, and it is getting worse. The experiment with international law is over. Since the USSR no longer exists, international law instantly degenerated into antics and leaps, either laughing at diplomats and "public figures", or continuing to frown with disgust ...
The world refuses the United States in world domination, since this very domination of the United States is absolutely beyond its capabilities. Too stupid, selfish and mean dominators. they defile everything they touch, blood gushes, countries are falling apart, the economy is crumbling ... The US government is leading the world into the abyss, and the world understands this very well.
So Lukashenka, among many others, has made yet another claim to the United States and the “West”. Are you the coolest here? Justify. The USA is allowed, but everyone else is not allowed? This means that the United States should cut Belarus, or at least specifically Lukashenko, so that only the spray will fly. Well, if not, then no! Leadership claim denied. We go to the World War. Oh-ho-ho ...

[Revival]

"The United States behaves like the masters of the planet. They want to detain the plane, and they do."

Which plane did they forcefully land or report a bomb?

[Mikhail3]

Now I will cite Maduro's plane as an example, and you will finally voice the answer prescribed for you, complementing the training manual. Could have saved a little time. Or do you get for the number of comments? And how is the money good?
And yes, let's go straight away. And who were the Belarusians forcibly imprisoned? An escorting fighter should not be offered, escorting a supposedly mined plane is a common thing. And also not to offer a Belarusian message about the bomb. Such things prove)

[Revival]

It is not necessary to cite Maduro as an example, because he is not an example at all for this situation.

[Mikhail3]

Another example. Moreover, Lukashenka acted gracefully, without violating anything, and the "masters of the world" ordered their lackeys to violate all international agreements, laws and disregard common sense. It is very correct that you limit yourself to short, meaningless answers. Arguments should not be given here) They sound very stupid)

[Revival]

Your intentional lie that he was forcibly imprisoned and searched sounds stupid!
I trust the official information of Bolivia itself

[Mikhail3]

Well done! Keep it up!

[Tagan]

Quote: Roman070280

Do not equate ..
Snowden is a real spy - the USA can be understood with their reason ..
Protasevich is not a terrorist, but he made a bad film .. So Luka was offended, and even his reason for this can be understood ..
But those who used to be indignant (under Snowden) that it is impossible to do this ... to land planes, etc., and now they suddenly changed their shoes, and claim the opposite - they say, everything was done correctly .. that's their reason for such duplicity, I don't understand ..

And the second thing .. where is the USA, and where is RB .. We compared a horse with a turtle ..

Yes, you do not understand, this is different)))
Is Snowden a spy? Whose? Or maybe he's a terrorist? Not a terrorist, but voiced inconvenient (bad) facts, to which the penguins were offended.
As for the second, we have already heard this: "What is permissible for Jupiter is not permissible for a bull."

[Mikhail3]

A whole bunch of spies divulge secret data to the whole world, and do not pass it on to their curators) Something the cyber command is desperately slowing down. They don’t agree on any digestible version. Or have they there, in the framework of increasing tolerance, made the director of Psaki? It looks scary.

[isv000]

It seems to me that the West is already swollen at the end: how to plant the board number 1 of Bolivia in Austria for a shmon is so normal, but how Old Man pulled his lost one by the ear and into the sun - this is a guard! Piracy! Here we have to send them more often in the forest, dear, where wolves are afraid to poop ...

[Revival]

1. USA Didn't land 1 board of bolivia!
2. no one shook him!

Stop ranting this Fake!

[Vasia]

1. USA Didn't land 1 board of bolivia!

They planted them, blocking the airspace. Another method, because other possibilities, but the same result. It is foolish to argue with this.

2. no one shook him!

Given the exceptional status of the customer and the high status of the person being searched, the scam was carried out by the President of Austria personally. What did you think? Without shmon, he would not fly further, and then there was no point in planting.

Stop ranting this Fake!

Yes, you are an incorrigible fake, as I can see.

[Revival]

You are already deliberately lying!

1. He sat down due to a malfunction of the fuel sensor, in the plane itself!
2.The president of austria met with the president of bolivia, no one conducted a search.

Do you not believe Bolivia itself and its president and defense minister?

[Vasia]

You are already deliberately lying!

1. He sat down due to a malfunction of the fuel sensor, in the plane itself!
2.The president of austria met with the president of bolivia, no one conducted a search.

Do you not believe Bolivia itself and its president and defense minister?

Because of the sensor ?? Ah ha, are you laughing?
Is it because of the sensor that the Bolivian Foreign Minister is worried? "Portugal must give us an explanation, France must give us an explanation why they revoked (permission). Besides, the plane (which Morales was on) is French, the pilots were trained in France. They want to intimidate us, this is discrimination against our president, life our president is in danger, "said Bolivian Foreign Minister David Choquehuanca at a press conference in La Paz.
Because of the sensor, according to you, he said that there was no ex-US intelligence officer Edward Snowden on board the plane of President Evo Morales, who left Russia.
Ecuadorian Foreign Minister Ricardo Patiño called the actions of the European countries, which banned the use of their airspace by the airliner, in which Bolivian President Evo Morales was traveling, and demanded in this regard the convening of an extraordinary meeting of representatives of the Union of South American Nations (UNASUR). This is also apparently due to the sensor.
Bolivia's Vice President Alvaro García Linéra, in an address to the nation, criticized the actions of France and Portugal, which banned President Evo Morales' plane from using their airspace. According to the Bolivian vice-president, Morales "was kidnapped by imperialism."
Defense Minister you mentioned: The Spanish authorities asked for permission to inspect the plane of Bolivian President Evo Morales to allow a flight, Bolivian representatives refused, Agence France Presse reported on Wednesday, citing a statement by Bolivian Defense Minister Ruben Saavedra. "The Spanish ambassador to Austria told us that his country has not yet allowed flight over its territory," Saavedra said, adding that, according to the ambassador, the final decision will be announced on Wednesday morning after consultations "with friendly states." ...
Saavedra noted that, according to the Spanish diplomat, the flight permit is linked to the opportunity to inspect the presidential plane. "This is blackmail, we reject these conditions," Saavedra said.
But representatives of Austria confirm the fact of the search: Austrian authorities searched the plane of Bolivian President Evo Morales at the Vienna airport, but ex-CIA officer Edward Snowden was not found on board, Austrian Vice-Chancellor Michael Spindelegger said on Wednesday.
“I didn’t see it, but my people examined the plane and didn’t see anyone except Bolivian citizens,” he told reporters in Vienna.
Later, the Minister of Defense of Bolivia denied the fact of the search, but who would admit such humiliation.
The Bolivian president himself was also worried about the sensor: "This is illegal. This is beyond any international rules. Presidents Correa, Maduro and Ortega have already called me. They express concern about what happened," Morales told reporters at the Vienna airport.
Also because of the sensor, the presidents of Venezuela, Brazil, Argentina, ... even the UN Secretary General were very concerned.
Bolivian Communications Minister Amanda Davila called on Monday the incident with President Evo Morales, whose plane was denied overflight over a number of European countries, "state terrorism", reports the Bolivian ABI news agency. Terrorist sensor.
And then Italy, Portugal and Spain apologized for the breakdown of the sensor in front of Bolivia.
All this can be confirmed by links to reputable sources.

You are just a pathological liar.
Fortunately, they are stupid, therefore you will not mislead many.

[Revival]

Who are you I will refrain from speaking ...

The day after his TV interview, Morales' Dassault Falcon 900 FAB-001, who flew him from Bolivia to Russia, took off from Vnukovo Airport, flew unhindered over Poland and the Czech Republic, and landed in Vienna after pilots requested an emergency landing due to indicator problems fuel level and, as a consequence, the inability to confirm sufficient fuel to continue the flight.

And your conjectures about the fact that Bolivia is lying that they were not searched, leave it to yourself.

[Vasia]

And your conjectures about the fact that Bolivia is lying that they were not searched, leave it to yourself.

Austrian authorities searched the plane of Bolivian President Evo Morales at Vienna airport, but ex-CIA officer Edward Snowden was not found on board, Austrian Vice-Chancellor Michael Spindelegger said on Wednesday. , they didn’t see it there, ”he told reporters in Vienna.
Are you claiming that this is a lie? And all of the above facts, in your opinion, are lies?
Do you not believe the representative of a civilized democratic state?
And you can give links to serious sources, .. about the sensor?
I assumed that communicating with you did not make sense, but I wanted it to be clearer. You met my expectations, thank you.

[Revival]

"I assumed that communicating with you did not make sense, but I wanted it to be clearer. You met my expectations, thank you."

Here we absolutely agreed with you.

Our conversation is meaningless, I trust the message of the authorities of Bolivia itself, you are the vice chancellor of austria.
Prefer west, please.

To each his own..

For me, the Western country is not an indisputable authority.

[Vasia]

Prefer west, please.
For me, the Western country is not an indisputable authority.

But what about:

Also because of the sensor, the presidents of Venezuela, Brazil, Argentina, ... even the UN Secretary General were very concerned.

You yourself can find the statements of each of those listed on the fact of the lawlessness against the President of Bolivia. And this is not the west. Or "is this the other"?

Our conversation is meaningless, I trust the message of the authorities of Bolivia itself, you are the vice chancellor of austria.

It is you who shield the west, allegedly not trusting it) Why this clownery?

[Kushka]

Quote: cniza

The play is not badly conceived, the actors are not very good, but they are already on horseback and will bend their line ...

AHL from the very beginning in its rhetoric brought the topic of elections out of the discourse - the elections took place, he is a winner. It demonstratively ignored the card of opponents about electoral fraud.
In response, they began to pedal the theme of "peaceful protest" and "without outside interference."
At the same time, they took off their slippers and climbed onto the benches.
Saying A, AHL said to B - "peaceful





Т

[Kushka]

protest - a blatant lie - everything is done under control and for money
enemies of the country abroad. The goal is to turn the country into poverty
colony, factories for scrap metal, ldi will be slaves.
When B got worn out, turned on the more impressive caliber - B - tanks
rattling at the country's borders, channels for the supply of weapons have been identified
from neighbors (Is this the one, without slippers, on the bench?).
Further more - AHL says G - a mutiny was planned, a murder
President and his children!
And finally D- here OH- the ringleader is a bandit (what, not very smart? Young?
- and it doesn't matter - behind him is the intelligence of the foe).
You think I talked, pumped up. Well, here HE will tell you -
and about the bloody coup, and about money, and about the owners ...
And the kid really hit - the one thing that he was a mercenary and accepted
direct participation in hostilities in another state,
already a crime. And as Zhiglov said - "a thief should be in prison" (C)

[tolancop]

Quote: Roman070280

Under Snowden, you shouted that this is impossible, now shout that everything is done correctly .. So I won't tell you anything .. because it's useless ..))

Of course useless ...
I will even keep silent that landing and inspecting a presidential plane is somewhat different from landing and inspecting an ordinary scheduled airplane.
We then argued (did not shout) that this is impossible, but .... we wanted to spit on our objections. Including okay, we were convinced THAT IS POSSIBLE. Convinced. So what are you complaining about now? Or is it possible, but not for everyone? ...

[Revival]

No one forcibly landed or inspected the plane of the President of Bolivia!

[Old school]

I don’t understand why I want to influence with my tail, trying to distort reality with stupid excuses, as the representatives of the Wild West do ...
We landed the plane because a "ghoul" was flying there, I don't like it!

[Roman070280]

Well, at least it was fair .. I agree ..
Although at the expense of who of them is the true ghoul - it's debatable ..))

[Oleg Aviator]

Well done. Does his job and spit on all kinds of jackals. A companion from Russia? And what does she ride with him?

[Roman070280]

Meanwhile, dad burns on ..))

Airports in Kiev, Lvov and Vilnius allegedly refused to accept the plane due to information about a bomb planted, which is why Lukashenka ordered to land it in Minsk.

Belarus threatened with harsh response to EU sanctions

Due to the ban on flights, Belarusian planes will fly in the Mediterranean and Baltic. This was announced on Wednesday, May 26, by Alexander Lukashenko during his speech in parliament.

"We will fly in the neutral spaces of the Mediterranean Sea, the Baltic, no one will forbid us," he said, without explaining where the planes would land over the sea if the airports are located in the EU countries.

Lukashenka is also "not worried" about the refusal of European airlines to fly through Belarus. “Minsk has no leverage to make you fly where we want, and we are not particularly worried,” he said.

Lukashenko added that Belarus will not make excuses because of the incident with the Ryanair plane.

Although, now what day is only justified ... Either Hamas, now a nuclear power plant ... either the pilots themselves decided to land in Minsk, then they refused to accept in Vilnius ..
The mustache would at least listen to the negotiations with the dispatcher before making himself look like that.

And to top it off, one more gem from someone who has long been less trusted than Hamas ...

Lukashenko promises a democratic referendum on the Constitution

[north 2]

Quote: Thrifty

Lukashenka gives training to the snakes on how to spin under the pitchfork so that you don't get hooked. ...

Yesterday I wrote that in fact, on the course from the place where, if the plane had not been turned in the direction of Minsk, it was to the Ostrovets NPP. Deviation of some tens of kilometers, if the plane had not been turned back to Minsk. The Ostrovets NPP was only a few tens of kilometers away from the direct course to the Vilnius airfield. And there is a bomb on the plane. And no one excludes that there are no terrorists on the plane either ... It's so good that it still ended like that. Wow, how happy the Americans would be if anyone had warned them that the plane could crash terrorists into the twin towers. Would have raised the fighters and and shot down the plane with all the passengers. And here, in fact, on the course of the aircraft, not the towers. and the operating nuclear power plant. Lukashenka even acted very correctly.

[yehat2]

Quote: north 2

Lukashenka even acted very correctly.

This cannot be asserted without knowing all the facts.
The only thing we can see is that Lukashenka's version is logical. How true it is is unclear.
I would like to better understand how the Belarusian services fished out the client. How the information appeared, how quickly the actions were agreed. This may clarify how honest the Belarusians are.

[Revival]

"I wrote yesterday that in fact, on the course from the place where if the plane had not
would have turned in the direction of Minsk was in the Ostrovetskaya NPP. "

Yes, yes, yes, of course ...
100 km to the nuclear power plant and 20 to the border, of course, you must immediately reject it back, uh-huh.

The excuses are getting dumber and more confused, it would be better just to be silent or to honestly say that they wanted to and did it, but no hypocritical, cowardly excuses ...
Aliens, pilots, Arabs ...

[Roman070280]

"Fast gait and insane look, that's why they call me cast iron"

/////////////////////////////

As we predicted, our well-wishers from outside and inside the country have changed the methods of attacking the state. They crossed many red lines, crossed the boundaries of common sense and human morality.

He invented about the bomb himself, now he complains to someone else that they "changed the methods of attack on the state. They crossed many red lines" Enchanting "die hard" ..))

That is why they moved on to organizing riots to the stage of strangulation. The search for new vulnerabilities is in progress. And this is directed not only at us. We are a testing ground for them, an experimental site before throwing east.

The mustachioed, it turns out, cares more about the east ..))
Well, grateful eastern aborigines happily shout at him for this ..

Understand a simple thing: if the plane was mined and the terrorists wanted to blow it up, we would hardly help. But I could not allow the plane to fall on the heads of our people.

We have Putin, too, personally runs to land every plane after a suspicious call ?? Well, yes .. that's right ..))

We have not forgotten her ... These two guys died while taking the plane away from residential buildings. Therefore, do not reproach me.

Certainly, very interrelated things ..))
However, to suck up brains is quite good .. Nobody will delve into it ..))

We brought this information to the pilots of the plane and had to publish it. Hamas, not Hamas - it doesn't matter today.

"Well, I screwed up, but it didn't work out - why did they bother me" ..

And if suddenly ... Are we not enough of Chernobyl?

You can't argue against such an argument .. He walks with trump cards right ..))
(below will be about Kennedy)

No other country in the world has faced such a multifaceted, multi-level terror. Why did they attack Belarus?

Of the terror, only the illegal detention of the ship can be distinguished .. What else can at least assume terror ??)

Lukashenko: the whole world understands that a multi-faceted, multi-level hybrid war has been unleashed against Belarus

The whole world is at war, slipping planes with unwanted journalists to daddy .. But he withstood this war ..))

In this war Belarus does not expect to win. But even if he is left alone, which, the Belarusian leader is sure, will not happen, the goal is to inflict unacceptable damage on the enemy.

Even if the Saratov pensioners will help him .. what damage and to whom is he going to inflict ??
Yesterday I was told that he did not go crazy ..))

And I will simply ask those who are behind the provocation: do you really not realize what catastrophic consequences this threatens?

The provocation was that instead of a bomb they planted Protosevich ?? What is he talking about at all ..))

Time has shown the correctness of the actions of the Belarusian authorities. Large-scale, hard work to protect people continues today

Uh-huh .. let the amount of correctness per month for a pensioner be announced ..
Protected people from whom this ghoul ??

It is obvious that at the stage of recovering from the pandemic, Western society is dissatisfied with how this exit is taking place, how they were protected, how funds were distributed in the West, and how vaccination is going on.

Well .. I would have started with this .. Now at least it is clear that the West, due to the pandemic, staged this provocation with an airplane, and Luka is not guilty ..

[yehat2]

I want not to get involved in this shit about Lukashenka, etc.
Much is tied to how reliable the message about the explosives was, because for some reason the ICAO ignored this reason for the landing in its wording.
And if this coordinator did not decide to walk around the airport, but sat on the plane, no one would have the right to arrest him.
So for those who like to throw it on the fan, I would advise you not to rush.
The assertion that everything turned at the behest of Lukashenka has no firm foundation.
It could well be that the infa about the bomb and the other are parts of one provocation that someone needs.
We have too few facts to draw conclusions.

The assumption that Lukashenka started this all looks too stupid and primitive. Did this old fox really want to set himself up like that?

[Roman070280]

that Lukashenka started all this looks too stupid and primitive. Did this old fox really want to set himself up like that?

I quoted his quote in a post above ..
Stupid and primitive - that would be a compliment for him ..

[yehat2]

do you have an order signed by Lukashenka to do this?
not? So why the hell are you claiming that he organized all this?
Think he has nothing else to do? And I think that you only have 1 scapegoat on your list, so you drown for the fact that he started it all.
And it could have been otherwise, for example, someone from the "opposition" did not share something and killed 2 birds with one stone - dealt with the opponent and framed the Belarusians, making only 2 calls - about the bomb and who is on board.
And on the fly, you can come up with at least 5 realistic scenarios, but your fantasy on Lukashenka is over. As if in Belarus there is nothing but potatoes and daddy.
infuriate people for whom everything is always obvious, and then "it can't be, how wrong we were"

[Roman070280]

do you have an order signed by Lukashenka to do this?

Oh, so you need an order ?? Now I'll go and ask ..

So why the hell are you claiming that he organized all this?

Do you have a signed order that he didn’t do it ??
So why the hell are you claiming that he was not involved in this ??

Think he has nothing else to do?

I don’t think, but I know .. He himself admits this himself that it was his personal instruction .. (so here is an order for you, albeit without a signature)

And I thinkthat you only have 1 scapegoat on your list, so you drown for the fact that he started it all.

If he started something on the way, I would only applaud this goat .. But the facts suggest otherwise ..
But you personally can think whatever you like .. It develops the brain anyway ..

And it could have been otherwise, for example, someone from the "opposition" did not share something and killed 2 birds with one stone - dealt with the opponent and framed the Belarusians, making only 2 calls - about the bomb and who is on board.

Yes, it could .. Even about 3 hares you can think of .. I am in no way hindering this ..

And on the fly, you can come up with at least 5 realistic scenarios, but your fantasy on Lukashenka is over.

Well, everyone does what he likes .. I'm glad that you have a rich imagination, maybe where it will come in handy ..
I myself once wrote science fiction, too, but in this case I prefer real facts, the words and actions of the mustachioed.

people, for whom everything is always obvious, are enraged, and then "it can't be, how wrong we were"

Don't be mad .. Luka will never admit it anyway, even if it doesn't work out .. so you don't have to say such words ..))

[yehat2]

Quote: Roman070280

Luca will never admit it anyway

damn, tired
Have you considered the option that everyone is telling the truth, but not everything is being said?
why do you have everything turned in one direction?
This reminds me of the situation with Hitler's attack on the Soviet Union.
In his book, he wrote that it was stupid, and still attacked.
This is how historians from Hitler sculpt a dibilchik, you do the same with Lukashenka.
I don't care if he is "good" or "bad". The very position of the accusation is false,
whatever your motives or beliefs. The insane cannot survive for a long time at such a level.
I will throw in one more version - one of Lukashenka's subordinates stupidly showed "initiative" and overdid it, and now we smile and wave the bow. Unfortunately, Lukashenka is far from being surrounded by geniuses.
You see, any logical construction must be consistent and built on logical rules, but this is not the case with you. The point is to blame. I don't care what a bunch of inconsistencies and white spots. But they called me a science fiction writer. Have you got a bucket of dirt for everyone?

[Roman070280]

damn, tired

Me too..

Have you considered the option that everyone is telling the truth, but not everything is being said?
why do you have everything turned in one direction?

Because I don't want to sit and fantasize .. to invent something on my own .. I just have to listen to the heresy that Luke is carrying now, and that I posted 5 posts above ..

I will throw in one more version - one of Lukashenka's subordinates stupidly showed "initiative" and overdid it, and now we smile and wave the bow.

Like it - throw it up .. If you wanted, you and Hitler could be justified .. they say, he did not know anything - he was framed ..

Unfortunately, Lukashenka is far from being surrounded by geniuses.

Lukashenka is not to blame, his entourage is to blame .. Yes, yes ..))
And this is not even your version, but a statement ..
That is, you know who he surrounded himself with ..))

You see, any logical construction must be consistent and built on logical rules, but this is not the case with you. The point is to blame.

Everything fits logically for me ..
And Luka's intervention in this with the order to land the plane - although this is not his business .. And the absence of bombs, and the accidental Protosevich on board, and nonsense about Hamas, and a bunch of verbiage of this with the excuses that are laid out above, about the "bad west", " eastern neighbor ", a pandemic, a nuclear power plant, and so on and so forth ..
But your whole logic of innocence boils down to "I can fantasize 5 more situations about how the environment set him up."

[yehat2]

Quote: Roman070280

And Luka intervened in this with the order to land the plane - although this is not his business .. And the absence of bombs, and the accidental Protosevich on board

Are you seriously?
are the special services of Belarus so cool that they track the flight of renegades over the country in real time? Is it really not clear that it was much quieter and cheaper to pack a protasevich in the same Lithuania or Greece. It is much easier and more convenient than performing such a ridiculous operation.
In addition, Protasevich himself was not tied up immediately after he got off the plane.
He managed to upload his photos on the net and take a fair walk. This is how a carefully prepared operation ends? It turns out that you want to deprive the Estonians of the monopoly on "slowness" and force them to share with the Belarusians?
Can't you see that the deeper, the more absurd in your version?

[Roman070280]

Are you seriously?
are the special services of Belarus so cool that they track the flight of renegades over the country in real time?

No .. they are so stupid that they are not able to find out where the person they put on the wanted list is and that he sat down at the airport and is flying over their country ..
I say - just a coincidence ..))

Is it really not clear that it was much quieter and cheaper to pack a protasevich in the same Lithuania or Greece.

I don’t understand .. I think it’s impossible at all .. No one would give it to them, and would not allow it to be taken across the border ..

It is much easier and more convenientthan to carry out such a ridiculous operation.

I'd rather not say anything in this place ..

In addition, Protasevich himself was not tied up immediately after he got off the plane.

Are you trying to make friends with logic ??) Immediately / not immediately .. he was in their hands, the rest is not important ..

This is how a carefully prepared operation ends?

Do you need to announce the bomb, go in, grab Protosevich, and release the plane ?? Of course, I have a better opinion about the KGB RB .. They were smart enough to let him first go out with everyone .. there’s nowhere to run .. and then make a surprised face - Oh, we got caught, come here ...

It turns out that you want to deprive the Estonians of the monopoly on "slowness" and force them to share with the Belarusians?
Can't you see that the deeper, the more absurd in your version?

I'm already tired of listing the absurdities of your versions ..))
With regards to "slowness" .. When there is a threat of a terrorist attack, the first thing to do is to check the passenger lists .. and they are not a secret ..
And the lists include the terrorist Protosevich declared by the Republic of Belarus.
But they don't see it .. they give him a walk .. And only then through the photo they suddenly notice him ..
Well, at least he didn't fly with Bin Laden and walk there .. Until Bin Laden sent his photo, the KGB would not have noticed ..

Shl .. tie up with fantasies ..))

[yehat2]

and if it turns out not, as you here so confidently DECLARE,
will we see your apologies here on the website?

[JD1979]

A crowd of bots rejoices for the "Soyuznichka", although it is difficult for them with logic))) they even refer to Snowden))) You see Snowden is good - he exposed the United States, and they forced such a bad plane))) fu-fu-fu to them) )) And then Protasevich did the same with respect to an incomprehensible ally (and he turns out to be bad))) and the ally spiraled an airplane because no one else needed this person (tales about IEDs, well, well), and voila, he, unlike the United States - good)) Double standards?))) do not smell)))
Shl. Now fly more cautiously to the south))) suddenly and on your plane they suddenly find something.

[Roman070280]

Worse, these are not bots .. these are people who really think so ..

[Vladimir Postnikov]

Something tells me that Petrov and Boshirov just recently admired the spiers in Switzerland.

[tolancop]

Quote: Revival

No one forcibly landed or inspected the plane of the President of Bolivia!

https://ria.ru/20130703/947304138.html
Uh-huh ... He must have "looked at himself".

[Avior]

Yeah. The case is straight one to one. :)

The day after his TV interview, Morales' Dassault Falcon 900 FAB-001, who flew him from Bolivia to Russia, took off from Vnukovo Airport, flew unhindered over Poland and the Czech Republic, and landed in Vienna after pilots requested an emergency landing due to indicator problems fuel level and, as a consequence, the inability to confirm a sufficient amount of fuel to continue the flight [2].

...

Austrian President Heinz Fischer went to meet President Morales on his plane and shared breakfast with him. [9] The plane took off again after Austrian officials confirmed that Edward Snowden was not on board. [10]

And now the answer to the question - Who framed Roger Rabbit? :)

In April 2015, Wikileaks founder Julian Assange said that he deliberately leaked false information about Snowden in the United States as part of "special measures" to distract the secret services. In response, Bolivia's ambassador to Russia demanded an apology from Assange for putting the life of their president at risk. In an interview with the Bolivian newspaper El Deber in August 2015, Assange said that Wikileaks and the Venezuelan government had discussed the issue of taking Snowden out of Russia aboard a Venezuelan or Bolivian presidential plane. Assange did not know if the Bolivian government was aware of these negotiations and did not communicate with the Bolivians himself, but said that Venezuela should have warned Bolivia. [18]

[fa2998]

Quote: Lannan Shi

More precisely, with her, but without the right to fly abroad.

Well, from Brest to Minsk, An-2 will be enough, and the rest of the leased aircraft will be asked to return.

[xorek]

We could not do otherwise against the background of the number of messages about all kinds of mining that come from different IP-addresses, primarily from Poland.

Why is Lukashenka talking all this? Well, we had a brilliant operation and possibly with Russia ..
Well, shut up and smile slyly .. No need to scratch your tongue. To pull out of words, all sorts of stupid statements, etc. ..
Lukashenka needs to be changed, incorrigible. ..And then unification! It remains to sign everything.

[Remo]

Quote: carstorm 11

100 km is the rest of the way. How long does it take for the plane to overcome them? Plus, in fact, this cannot be allowed taking into account the risks.

The plane was heading for Vilnius, not the nuclear power plant !!!!!!

[Warhead-xnumx]

And what kind of kipish? Iran took it out and shot down a civilian side, and then said "sorry, we were mistaken," and here they just landed neatly and politely.