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US Press: First versions of F-35A fighters may soon be decommissioned by the Air Force and sent for scrap

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Information about the fate of the 5th generation F-35 fighters appeared in the American military-themed press. The first models of these combat aircraft are reported to be "costly concerns." In particular, it is said that difficulties continue to arise with the automated process of supplying components for timely maintenance. At the same time, these problems concern mainly the first F-35A, which appeared in service with the US Air Force.


In the material of the columnist Thomas Newdick, it is said that in the United States there are "more and more arguments in favor of getting rid of the first versions of the F-35A fighters."

Earlier it was reported that the American command is preparing to consider several options with these fighters, including the option with decommissioning and "cutting into metal". American experts, meanwhile, note that the first versions of the 5th generation F-35 fighters may be transferred "for operation by the allies." An interesting proposal, especially considering that the United States itself complains about the expensive maintenance of these (first) versions of the fifth generation aircraft.

US Press:

The first versions of the F-35A fighters may soon be decommissioned by the US Air Force and sent for scrap. They are the least efficient and the most expensive. It is also difficult for them to supply ammunition. Today, such fighters are most often used for pilot training.

Thomas Newdick in his material writes that, in general, the readiness of the F-35A has grown significantly in recent years, but, as noted with reference to the US high military command, "at an incredible cost."
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  1. Murmur 55
    Murmur 55 26 May 2021 07: 02
    +17
    Ukraine is already waiting ??? Suddenly it turns out !!!!!
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 26 May 2021 07: 41
      +8
      Do you want to ruin a developing country? give sell her cruiser F-35A.
      1. Murmur 55
        Murmur 55 26 May 2021 08: 09
        +3
        And Ukraine is a developing country ??? Without sarcasm, I just clarify, it seems like they are not doing well with the economy.
        1. Revolver
          Revolver 26 May 2021 08: 20
          +9
          Go understand, whether she already underdeveloped developing * country, or jumping in this direction. But in Soviet, and even pre-Soviet, times of all kinds of industries there weren't, but they themselves were all about ... ahem ... Kama Sutril.

          * "developing" is nothing more than a politically correct version of the word "underdeveloped"
          1. abrakadabre
            abrakadabre 26 May 2021 09: 26
            +2
            And Ukraine is a developing country ???
            Rather degrading.
        2. Kaman
          Kaman 26 May 2021 11: 52
          +2
          What a bad luck, the "flying penguin" had the highest percentage of combat readiness in 2020, here is a table on the percentage of combat readiness of American fighters from the same article
    2. aszzz888
      aszzz888 26 May 2021 09: 48
      0
      Murmur 55 (ALEXANDER)
      Today, 07: 02
      NEW
      +9
      Ukraine is already waiting ??? Suddenly it turns out !!!!!
      a kick to her from the Merikatos - it will definitely fall! BUT won and so they will manage, let them first learn to walk on the ground.
    3. TermNachTer
      TermNachTer 26 May 2021 10: 06
      +2
      Don't even think about it. What is brought to Banderland evaporates in a strange way, and then condenses from no one knows where. The Washington Reich Chancellery is well aware of the venal essence, their Banderastic sixes. Therefore, they will not receive anything))))
  2. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 26 May 2021 07: 04
    +12
    But what are they doing, in the camp of the penguin sect today is mourning! And the video will be like a penguin being thrown under a "tricycle", a hundred lyams of greenery turn into the most expensive pile of duralium with one movement of the hand. goodStop the panic, we haven’t adopted the C 500 yet! laughing
    1. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 26 May 2021 07: 13
      +9
      Quote: tralflot1832
      But what are they doing, in the camp of the penguin sect today is mourning! And the video will be like a penguin being thrown under a "tricycle", a hundred lyams of greenery turn into the most expensive pile of duralium with one movement of the hand

      How strikingly long the striped ears persisted in their claims ... about the best airplane of all time. And now it turned out that "Heaven" sees them too (immediately there were publications, like "it is not enough to see, it is also necessary to hit" ...), and the fighters of them are not very ... And the cost of a flight hour goes off scale ...
    2. mojohed2012
      mojohed2012 26 May 2021 07: 58
      +1
      And if they don't want to carry duralium-luminium, they will make them wear cast iron!
    3. Kaman
      Kaman 26 May 2021 08: 55
      0
      Another would be to find out what kind of publication it is and get a link to the article in the original
      1. Nikolay O.
        Nikolay O. 26 May 2021 09: 22
        +1
        This is a classified publication, so no details. Although, to be honest, I think this is the same dearly beloved VO National Interest
      2. APASUS
        APASUS 26 May 2021 09: 44
        +4
        Quote: Kaman
        Another would be to find out what kind of publication it is and get a link to the article in the original

        Please get
        https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/40783/early-f-35as-may-get-axed-even-though-overall-readiness-has-improved-significantly
        1. eklmn
          eklmn 26 May 2021 22: 06
          +2
          Apasus, thanks a lot for the link!
          The author of the article from The Drive is Thomas Newdick.
          For the curious, excerpts from the article:
          (lane google)
          This is not the first time the Air Force has decided to ditch some of its oldest F-35A. Back in 2017, we reported that the service, along with the Marine Corps and the US Navy, was considering stopping work to modernize possibly dozens of Joint Strike Fighters. By this point, it was already becoming clear that the falling jet unit price threatened to make buying a new aircraft cheaper than upgrading an existing aircraft, with many rework issues and old configuration obstacles, some of which would probably never come close to a solution. in any case, the declared useful life.
          "At the moment this is not included in our plans, but we must take this into account", - Hinote told Military.com, noting that there are "some signs" that the Air Force has already over-invested in the F-35A, which is only suitable for training... With the proliferation of synthetic training aids and the high-performance T-7A Red Hawk jet trainer on the horizon, it may be time to ditch these earlier F-35A's to improve fleet readiness. "
  3. Victor_B
    Victor_B 26 May 2021 07: 04
    +7
    in the United States there are "more and more arguments in favor of getting rid of the first versions of the F-35A fighters."
    It's just pirduha!
    The fat penguin is dying!
    Just the historical drank the dough!
    Dough, I note, from the state budget, from the state budget of Matrasia!
    1. mojohed2012
      mojohed2012 26 May 2021 08: 02
      +4
      It is on this overstrain against the background of internal problems with racism and black-colored fascism, implicated in LGBT paranoia, and empires collapse. It can't be otherwise. Either that, or through a big war.
    2. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 26 May 2021 09: 30
      0
      The fat penguin is dying!
      Not yet. But: "The stupid" Penguin "timidly hides its fat body in the cliffs ... Only the proud" Petrel "soars boldly and freely over the sea, gray with foam!"
      All coincidences of the names of military systems are accidental. But it is not exactly wassat
  4. Thrifty
    Thrifty 26 May 2021 07: 08
    +1
    At this moment, somewhere in Kiev, Zelensky sobbed loudly lol
  5. Herman 4223
    Herman 4223 26 May 2021 07: 14
    +1
    How much is the first version?
    After all, the account goes to at least dozens of cars.
    1. Thrifty
      Thrifty 26 May 2021 07: 23
      +5
      German4223-it seems like at least 40 cars, and that figure is approximate request
      1. Herman 4223
        Herman 4223 26 May 2021 07: 26
        0
        In their place, I would put them quietly aside, and after five years I sold them to some kind of Kiev or Romania.
  6. Tagan
    Tagan 26 May 2021 07: 19
    +1
    Quote: Murmur 55
    Ukraine is already waiting ??? Suddenly it turns out !!!!!

    But how! Well this is their blue dream. Although they do not fly, you can take a selfie.
  7. purple
    purple 26 May 2021 07: 21
    0
    Quote: Victor_B
    Dough, I note, from the state budget, from the state budget of Matrasia!

    what a garbage ... they will still print ...
  8. Normal
    Normal 26 May 2021 07: 26
    +1
    In the American military-themed press ....
    US Press:

    Well, now I will read important information from reputable sources.

    .... sent for scrap .... supplying ammunition is difficult for them.

    Mm-yes-ah-ah ..... what
    1. Nikolay O.
      Nikolay O. 26 May 2021 07: 53
      +3
      And these were secret authoritative sources, so they cannot be named ...
  9. askort154
    askort154 26 May 2021 07: 28
    +6
    American experts, meanwhile, note that the first versions of the 5th generation F-35 fighters may be transferred "for operation by the allies."

    The United States has a waste-free production of military equipment, thanks to a large number of "allies". At the same time, they give loans to the very poor, such as Romania, Bulgaria, Georgia, Ukraine, etc. for the purchase of their scrap metal.
    As a result, instead of expenses for the disposal of decommissioned equipment, they receive
    profit.
  10. O. Bender
    O. Bender 26 May 2021 07: 44
    +3
    They sawed money on supplies, now they will saw on recycling laughing
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 26 May 2021 09: 58
      0

      O. Bender (Alexander)
      Today, 07: 44
      +1
      They sawed off money on supplies, now they will saw off on utilization laughing
      And now they don't know how to die from a bucket of nuts / bolts! wink
  11. Nikolay O.
    Nikolay O. 26 May 2021 07: 51
    +8
    In the comments, such a stormy joy, once again the penguin is buried. Actually, in fact, in the unknown "military-themed press" someone wrote that maybe the first versions (and this is a maximum of 40 out of 600 odd ones) will be scrapped. Or maybe they won't. So personally, I don't see any particular reason for the victorious timpani.
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 26 May 2021 08: 26
      +3
      Meanwhile, Israel (well, the truth is a slightly different version, F-35I) tested them in real combat conditions, and ordered another squadron.
    2. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 26 May 2021 11: 50
      0
      In fact, he is stillborn, a gasket up to the 6th generation (although why this gasket, when no one knows so far at f 16), which they may have at the level of 50 tons, but most likely worse in terms of LTH.
  12. EvilLion
    EvilLion 26 May 2021 08: 19
    +1
    So what? Quite a typical situation, early machines have some differences that may be physically impossible to eliminate, while the resource is already well knocked out. It is sometimes easier to dispose of them than to bring them up to a later standard. About 50 years ago, with some early model, at the age of 5 years, they would not even bother, just under the press.
    1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
      Andrei from Chelyabinsk 26 May 2021 08: 32
      +1
      Quote: EvilLion
      A fairly typical situation, early machines have some differences that may be physically impossible to eliminate, while the resource is already well knocked out.

      Not. Not typical at all. The first production F-35A flew in 2011, and there is no reason why normal the aircraft will be decommissioned 10 years after the start of operation.
      I admit that what is written in the article is a duck, or "the translator misunderstood," but - if true - "this is a fiasco, bro" (c)
      1. Perseverance
        Perseverance 26 May 2021 08: 50
        +1
        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
        Not. Not typical at all. The first production F-35A flew in 2011, and there is no and cannot be any reason why a normal aircraft will be decommissioned 10 years after the start of operation.
        I admit that what is written in the article is a duck, or "the translator misunderstood," but - if true - "this is a fiasco, bro" (c)

        Interpreter.
        The F-35 is now the best in the entire Air Force. for 2022 order additionally 20 pieces of F-35
        1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
          Andrei from Chelyabinsk 26 May 2021 08: 59
          0
          Quote: Perseverance
          The F-35 is now the best in the entire Air Force.

          The question is at what cost it was possible to achieve this. I am not saying that the article is "true, true, and nothing but the truth" (you must read the original source), but the article says
          as noted with reference to the US high command, "at an incredible cost."
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 26 May 2021 09: 45
            +3
            I read the original
            Thomas Newsdick. Thedrive.com
            There is nothing about "incredible costs".
            Yes: "the combat readiness of the F-35 has increased, but the operating costs have not decreased"
            1. eklmn
              eklmn 26 May 2021 22: 12
              0
              There is nothing about "incredible costs".

              There are just about the costs:
              (lane google)
              “This is not the first time the Air Force has decided to ditch some of its oldest F-35A. Back in 2017, we reported that the service, along with the US Marine Corps and the US Navy, was considering stopping modernization work. possibly dozens of Joint Strike Fighters. By this point, it was already becoming clear that the falling jet unit price threatened to make buying a new aircraft cheaper than upgrading an existing aircraft, with many rework issues and old configuration obstacles, some of which would probably never come close to a solution. in any case, the declared useful life.
              “At the moment this is not part of our plans, but we have to take it into account,” Hinote told Military.com. noting that there are "some signs" that the Air Force has already over-invested in the F-35A, which is training-only. With the rapid growth of synthetic training aids and the emergence of the high-performance T-7A Red Hawk jet trainer on the horizon, it may be time to ditch these earlier F-35As, which will increase fleet readiness. "
      2. EvilLion
        EvilLion 26 May 2021 09: 31
        +1
        The fact of the matter is that these aircraft may not be normal, since newer versions had hardware modifications, and the old ones cannot be modified to meet this standard.

        A similar case occurred during the delivery of the Su-30 to India, when the first batch was actually leased and could not be physically upgraded to the Su-30MKI standard. So the planes returned EMNIP not even to us, but to Belarus, so as not to pay the import duty, and then, after finishing with a file at the local ARZ, went, in my opinion, to Uganda.

        On tests, the plane is quickly shattered, and if cadets were also trained on it, and it flew 2 times more than during normal operation, just because it makes sense to regret, then there may no longer be a resource.
        1. zlinn
          zlinn 26 May 2021 17: 10
          +1
          moreover, in the original article, it is just said that they are used as training, and that for the money required for their modernization, it would be easier to buy new ones, and transfer the cadets to the new T-7A Red Hawk, but since they are not yet ready for operation, then f-35a will not be decommissioned tomorrow, and such a solution is still considered as one of the ,,, so while they are written off they fly 7-8K hours, which during training operation, and so the Khan
  13. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 26 May 2021 09: 17
    0
    in general, the readiness of the F-35A has grown significantly in recent years, but, as noted with reference to the US high command, "at an incredible cost."
    And it took 12 years for the aircraft in service? Typically, it takes 2-5 years from flight tests to commissioning, depending on the type of aircraft. And here it has been in the ranks for almost 12 years, sold to many countries and only finally "readiness has grown significantly." Another reason to say: "Guys, do not believe advertising, especially American!"
    1. zlinn
      zlinn 26 May 2021 17: 12
      0
      significantly in this case, just above all, including the models worked out for years
  14. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 26 May 2021 09: 18
    +3
    In particular, it is said that difficulties continue to arise with the automated process of supplying components for timely maintenance.
    The USA is undoubtedly the world center of the "electronic world". Programs, components, digital environment there is the most advanced and perfect in the world. Not for everyone, of course (our banking technologies for the population have not been surpassed by anyone in the world, no one has even come close to the simplicity and convenience of these mass products), but for all sorts of special projects.
    Tracking the population, its money, opponents and enemies at a height unattainable to the rest of the world. Well, military technology, of course. And what's the matter? What does it mean? An ordinary logistic task, it seems! What nito Amazon provides the whole world with goods and products, and here there are several tens of thousands of components, but this is ridiculous! And yet it is an unrecoverable failure, a failure that, in principle, cannot be resolved.
    I wonder what computer scientists, AI singers, leaders and flagships of the "digital economy" think about this? Hehe ...
  15. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 26 May 2021 09: 32
    +5
    It is right. In 2023-2024, the production of a new block F-35 will begin. Block 4.
    With significant improvements.
    6 explosive missiles, instead of 4, in the internal compartments. A whole set of new weapons in the internal compartments.
    Ability to control reactive UAVs Valkyrie from Kratos.
    More powerful computer, more memory.
    An improved sensor system capable of tracking enemy missile launches from the moment they are launched.
  16. aszzz888
    aszzz888 26 May 2021 09: 45
    -2
    American experts, meanwhile, note that the first versions of the 5th generation F-35 fighters may be transferred "for operation by the allies."
    Here you are, it is not good for us! How Merikatos is it! Letting your allies go around the world is one thing, but flying without knowing what is another! laughing
  17. Evil 55
    Evil 55 26 May 2021 11: 47
    -1
    Now the "pan-head jumpers" will howl: "Give it back, Master, give it
    unhappy, helpless and foolish "..
    1. isv000
      isv000 26 May 2021 15: 52
      0
      And the stupa will come down to the holy fool ...
  18. bk0010
    bk0010 26 May 2021 12: 17
    -1
    Sawing instead of reworking or upgrading? Generally stunned.
  19. 123456789
    123456789 26 May 2021 13: 39
    -1
    Quote: mojohed2012
    It is against this overstrain against the background of internal problems with racism and black-colored fascism, implicated in LGBT paranoia and empires fall apart. It can't be any other way. Either that, or through a big war.

    The withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan was forgotten hi
    The day before yesterday - F-22! Yesterday - Tikondirogi! Today - F-35! Deja vu!
  20. isv000
    isv000 26 May 2021 14: 24
    -1
    There they were originally dear ...
  21. isv000
    isv000 26 May 2021 15: 54
    -1
    But there was no need to steal the drawings of the Yak-141!
  22. Tramp
    Tramp 28 May 2021 15: 32
    0
    it's good money down the drain.