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Manned space rocket plane VSS Unity made a new flight

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For the first time in the past two years, the manned space rocket plane VSS Unity, owned by the American company Virgin Galactic, made its first successful suborbital flight in two years. The launch was carried out from the new spaceport "America" ​​in the state of New Mexico.


This was reported on the company's Twitter page.

The launch of the spaceplane took place on May 22. This is his third successful flight. The previous two were made in the Mojave Desert. The space rocket plane was launched from the WhiteKnightTwo aircraft. When he separated from the plane, the engines turned on and ran for one minute. The device climbed to an altitude of just over 89 kilometers, and then successfully landed on the runway. The entire flight took 17 minutes. It passed normally, no technical problems, as stated, did not arise.


Each time the device was separated from the aircraft from a 15-kilometer height, after which it independently rises above the 81 kilometer mark, which, according to the US Air Force standards, is the boundary of space. True, in the International aviation Federation, the height to which the apparatus rises is not yet considered space, since it is accepted there that it begins at a distance of 100 kilometers from the Earth's surface.

In the future, Virgin Galactic plans to use the VSS Unity spaceplane to organize suborbital flights for tourists.

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  1. Victor_B
    Victor_B 24 May 2021 09: 53
    +19
    Why not congratulate you on your success?
    Well done!
    You have achieved technical success, but will there be commercial success?
    1. Intruder
      Intruder 24 May 2021 10: 03
      0
      Well done!
      You have achieved technical success, but will there be commercial success?
      Well, yes, an interesting solution for tourism, although not quite a harmonious machine, I mean - its glider and general scheme, but you won't understand the rich laughing, and pulling the booster plane constantly into the sky ... hmm, the idea is old, but old man Richard Branson can be seen for a long time hooked on this idea !? repeat
      1. Victor_B
        Victor_B 24 May 2021 10: 10
        -4
        Quote: Intruder
        although not quite a harmonious machine, I mean - its glider and general scheme

        Designers ... they are such designers ...
        1. military_cat
          military_cat 24 May 2021 10: 36
          +4
          Why the plumage is carried so far back is understandable - to increase stability on hypersound. And it looks beautiful too - like any solution where the work of an engineer due to physics is more noticeable than the work of a designer.
          1. Victor_B
            Victor_B 24 May 2021 10: 41
            -2
            Quote: military_cat
            where the physics-driven work of the engineer is more visible than the designer's.

            That's why the military with their X-s dizignerstvo are not carried away.
            Just a bast shoe. Simple and tasteful!
            1. Infinity
              Infinity 24 May 2021 10: 54
              +4
              hi And designers are not needed! An amazing thing is this. An ugly plane flies badly (Not literally, Tupolev). Aerodynamic models look beautiful on their own. Especially if this is not just a model, but a real machine in hardware, a work of engineering art!

              Congratulations to the guys at Virgin Galactic on your success!
              By the way, does a space tourist have the right, for example, to receive the "Astronaut Badge" ("Astronaut Wings"), which astronauts receive in the United States? In theory, no, the level of effort and utility is not the same, but they also crossed their conditional boundary of space (80,47 km or 50 land miles; although even the generally accepted height of 100 km (Karman's line) is considered by some to be too low).
          2. zwlad
            zwlad 25 May 2021 12: 06
            +1
            This is how the plumage looks liquid. In my opinion. Frivolous like that for a spaceship.
    2. Evil troll
      Evil troll 24 May 2021 10: 09
      +4
      I think there will be a lot of tourists who want to ride. If the price tag is not too high, they will pick it up.
    3. d1975
      d1975 24 May 2021 11: 07
      +2
      For those who are in the tank! The height of space is accepted throughout the world as 100 km, not 81 km !!!
      1. abrakadabre
        abrakadabre 26 May 2021 07: 22
        +2
        For those who are in the tank! The height of space is accepted throughout the world as 100 km, not 81 km !!!
        Exactly. But:
        rises above the 81 kilometer mark, which, according to the US Air Force standards, is the boundary of space. True, in the International Aviation Federation, the height to which the device rises is not yet considered space, since it is accepted there that it begins at a distance of 100 kilometers from the Earth's surface.
        If we cannot reach an altitude of 100 km, and we want to cut the loot from the smug rich suckers, then we will lower the boundary of space.
        Well, we will show our own exclusivity in spite of everyone. Just like in terms of "astronaut" - "astronaut". We do not fly to the stars, we do not land on them, but only in the despicable vacuum of space, but we are called astronauts.
  2. Asad
    Asad 24 May 2021 09: 55
    +1
    Shareholders have a holiday! And then they were completely depressed.
  3. Cat Alexandrovich
    Cat Alexandrovich 24 May 2021 09: 58
    -9
    And at what height does weightlessness occur? 89 km? 100 km?
    1. Vladimir_2U
      Vladimir_2U 24 May 2021 10: 02
      +15
      Quote: Cat Alexandrovich
      And at what height does weightlessness occur? 89 km? 100 km?

      It comes even 10 meters away, it just doesn't last long! laughing
    2. U-58
      U-58 24 May 2021 10: 05
      +8
      What, and completely illiterate?
      Climb onto the stool and jump off. You will have weightlessness at a height of 50 cm
      1. Cat Alexandrovich
        Cat Alexandrovich 24 May 2021 10: 08
        +8
        Thank you explained! So my cat is an astronaut! He is constantly jumping off the stool!
        1. Blackmokona
          Blackmokona 24 May 2021 10: 42
          +1
          And so NASA and the Air Force raised different questions about the boundary of space and received different answers at the dawn of astronautics.
          NASA asked what is the minimum altitude a spacecraft can fly and got a boundary of 100 km.
          And the Air Force asked what is the maximum altitude an aircraft can fly using its wings. And got 80 km.
        2. Vladimir_2U
          Vladimir_2U 24 May 2021 10: 53
          0
          Quote: Cat Alexandrovich
          So my cat is an astronaut!

          The cat pilot is a micro-jumper. )))
    3. military_cat
      military_cat 24 May 2021 10: 44
      +1
      Quote: Cat Alexandrovich
      And at what height does weightlessness occur? 89 km? 100 km?

      If you answer seriously, then it occurs at the moment when the engine is turned off, and until that moment, on the contrary, an overload.
    4. Intruder
      Intruder 24 May 2021 10: 51
      -1
      And at what height does weightlessness occur? 89 km? 100 km?
      for any, depending on the trajectory of movement and for 10 km., You can get it, but not for long! And microgravity, already from a distance with a gravitating body, the further, the less ... wink
    5. Piramidon
      Piramidon 24 May 2021 12: 11
      +3
      Quote: Cat Alexandrovich
      And at what height does weightlessness occur? 89 km? 100 km?

      Constant weightlessness occurs when the satellite enters orbit, i.e. from 160 km. More or less stable orbits (where the influence of the atmosphere is not so strong) start from an altitude of 300 km.
    6. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 26 May 2021 07: 27
      0
      Flip through your school physics textbook. There are even formulas for calculating the required speed, depending on the altitude. Well, as it should be at school - the resistance of the atmosphere must be neglected.
  4. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 24 May 2021 10: 10
    +5
    Honestly, to pay for a flight on such a kerosene stove, it will be necessary to look for such clients. Musk has an ambitious project, and the pilots who piloted this "shed" are crazy about their heads, in a good sense of the word, from protection overalls and glasses, cool. by their appearance that the height is almost 10 Everests.
    1. Intruder
      Intruder 24 May 2021 10: 53
      +3
      Honestly, to pay for a flight on such a kerosene stove
      Duc, their engine is cheaper than Musk's methane Raptors, so the price is lower, especially in the suborbital, to contemplate the panorama of the Earth's surface and go home to a restaurant for a couple of hours, to tell friends how he plowed the vastness of space ... good
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 24 May 2021 11: 01
        +1
        And it was not he who broke into firewood 3 - 4 years ago? Of course there will be people to try their luck for their money.
        1. slipped
          slipped 24 May 2021 11: 55
          +5
          Quote: tralflot1832
          And it was not he who broke into firewood 3 - 4 years ago? Of course there will be people to try their luck for their money.


          They are there even without flight suits. Their previous experience of space flights does not teach them anything. Okay - the pilots on the MiG-31 - there is a professional risk, and here are the passengers. Tin.
          1. Intruder
            Intruder 24 May 2021 12: 57
            -1
            They are there even without flight suits. Their previous experience of space flights does not teach them anything.
            They are paid for this and the risk, as a PR segment for the reliability of this suborbital spaceplane, and for many tons of crispy greenery, many will agree to pilot in shorts ... laughing
            1. slipped
              slipped 24 May 2021 13: 01
              -3
              Quote: Intruder
              They are paid for this and the risk, as a PR segment for the reliability of this suborbital spaceplane, and for many tons of crispy greenery, many will agree to pilot in shorts ... laughing


              Well, in the world of the rich - there are a lot of idiots. laughing And there is no smell of reliability. The explosion of the engine and the instant depressurization of the cockpit .... masks will not save for long.
              1. Intruder
                Intruder 24 May 2021 13: 05
                +1
                The explosion of the engine and the instantaneous depressurization of the cockpit .... the masks will not save for long.
                Well, something tragically direct, the explosion of one engine from a family of spent engines into a liquid rocket engine, then, is it easier to drop a fan into the bath from slippery hands into the water, or break a leg on the ice while rolling and pierce the femoral artery with fragments of bone !?
                1. slipped
                  slipped 24 May 2021 13: 44
                  +3
                  The astronauts of Challenger and Columbia probably felt the same way. Well, or whoever designed the shuttle ...
                  1. Intruder
                    Intruder 24 May 2021 13: 50
                    0
                    The astronauts of Challenger and Columbia probably felt the same way.
                    And this is an evil statistical error, but "the stick shoots once a year" !? And so, for 30 years of the Space Shuttle mission program, there are only 2 accidents, but how many other missile systems, if you count?
                    PS
                    over 30 years of operation, 135 launches were made (including two disasters). Most of the flights - 39, were made by the space shuttle "Discovery".
                    by the way, an absolute record for a reusable project on this planet!
                    1. slipped
                      slipped 24 May 2021 15: 00
                      +3
                      The detachment did not notice the fighter. lol And the rich do not mind - let them die. laughing
                      1. Intruder
                        Intruder 24 May 2021 15: 20
                        -1
                        And the rich do not mind - let them die.
                        Why, so categorically, are they also a part of the Universe !?
                  2. shahor
                    shahor 25 May 2021 17: 34
                    +1
                    Quote: slipped
                    Well, or whoever designed the shuttle ...

                    Designed by the colleagues of those who designed the Unions with Komarov, Dobrovolsky, Volkov, Patsaev ... Space flights are a dangerous business, humanity is at the very beginning of the path to the stars, how many more bumps we will fill - it's scary to think ...
              2. abrakadabre
                abrakadabre 26 May 2021 07: 30
                0
                Well, in the world of the rich - there are a lot of idiots.
                Not completely idiots. But stupid in a particular area.
        2. Intruder
          Intruder 24 May 2021 12: 55
          -1
          And this is not he, 3 - 4 years ago, he crashed into firewood
          Well, there really was such a thing, but these are flight technical tests, nevertheless, let's give a little indulgence for testing ...? wink
  5. rocket757
    rocket757 24 May 2021 10: 20
    0
    Okay, experiment ... and then what?
    1. Blackmokona
      Blackmokona 24 May 2021 10: 44
      +1
      Further analysis and decision-making to test or get documents and carry clients.
      1. slipped
        slipped 24 May 2021 12: 05
        +2
        Terribly dangerous attraction. There is no emergency rescue system at all. The most interesting thing is that such a system for such spaceplanes was developed back in the 70s in our country.
        1. Blackmokona
          Blackmokona 24 May 2021 12: 08
          +2
          We also had it temporary and very limited in height and speed.
          By the way, Shuttle also had one.
          1. slipped
            slipped 24 May 2021 12: 12
            -1
            Quote: BlackMokona
            We also had it temporary and very limited in height.
            By the way, Shuttle also had one.


            I'm not talking about a shuttle, there they came to their limited one after the Challenger disaster, although before that there were catapults on Columbia. I'm talking about the Spiral spaceplane, which had a full-fledged system for rescuing an astronaut from orbit, which included both a special flight suit and a cabin design in the form of an autonomous descent vehicle. In the case of the Brenson craft, the CA itself could even be made easier, since the height is much less. Apparently, the weights were not enough for him .... Therefore, the passengers and turned into suicide bombers.
            1. Blackmokona
              Blackmokona 24 May 2021 13: 11
              +4
              The spiral did not fly into space. So we stopped at scaled-down layouts.
              1. slipped
                slipped 24 May 2021 15: 02
                +1
                Quote: BlackMokona
                The spiral did not fly into space. So we stopped at scaled-down layouts.


                It doesn't matter in this context. It is important that the CAC was there.
                1. Blackmokona
                  Blackmokona 24 May 2021 15: 18
                  +2
                  SAS was planned, but in reality it was not created, not tested, etc.
                  1. slipped
                    slipped 24 May 2021 17: 43
                    +1
                    Quote: BlackMokona
                    SAS was planned, but in reality it was not created, not tested, etc.


                    It is enough that the SAS was an integral design feature of the airframe, in contrast to this apparatus.
        2. Disant
          Disant 24 May 2021 12: 27
          0
          Well, at the door with a parachute and oxygen equipment, you can probably fall out under certain conditions?
          1. slipped
            slipped 24 May 2021 12: 33
            +4
            Quote: Disant
            well, at the door with a parachute, you can probably fall out 7


            Not. It's not that simple there. Here is a smart person falling out the door with a parachute at an altitude much lower than that of Unity (31 km):



            Pay attention to his equipment - this will not be the case for Unity passengers.
            1. Intruder
              Intruder 24 May 2021 13: 02
              -2
              Here is a smart person falling out of the door with a parachute at an altitude much lower than that of Unity (31 km
              This is a record extreme flight in free fall, by the way, and only for the "tick" of the record, and not a spent spaceplane for rich Buratin with multimillion-dollar insurance in each flight!
              1. slipped
                slipped 24 May 2021 13: 03
                +3
                Quote: Intruder
                This is a record extreme flight in free fall, by the way and only for the "show" of the record,


                It doesn't matter at all. This is an example of going out the door at a high altitude and what is needed for this.
                1. Intruder
                  Intruder 24 May 2021 13: 43
                  -1
                  It doesn't matter at all
                  Yeah, it doesn't matter - it's one thing extreme sports with record parameters, and another thing is to ride Western oligarchs on a suborbital cruise spaceplane, after all, they are VIPs "Mama Don't Cry", especially cuisine and comfort, serve them with hot coffee in tubes! laughing
                  1. abrakadabre
                    abrakadabre 26 May 2021 07: 40
                    +1
                    Yeah, it doesn't matter - extreme sports with record parameters is one thing
                    You are talking about one thing, and you are talking about another. You are told: in order to jump out the door with a parachute at three times lower height, you need not a "leotard and a T-shirt", but a full-fledged sealed spacesuit, for a small one, almost the same as for a spacewalk. But you don't hear. And you continue about some records, extreme sports, etc.
                    1. Intruder
                      Intruder 26 May 2021 08: 00
                      -2
                      And you continue about some records, extreme sports, etc.
                      And you do not see the record that was realized with these technical means and for what, probably too! ??? request Extreme sports, is it not for comfortable tourism, or will you argue here too !? what
                      1. abrakadabre
                        abrakadabre 26 May 2021 08: 07
                        +2
                        But you can't see that record at close range
                        You do not see at close range that the vacuum or almost vacuum overboard does not care deeply, for what purpose you find yourself outside the apparatus: for a record or in case of an emergency exit.
                        Usually safety is neglected just for records, and not for routine flights with tourists. But here, on the contrary, a test-holder in a sealed spacesuit, and you suggest throwing tourists overboard in a woven suit with a parachute if something happens. And from a much greater height.
                      2. Intruder
                        Intruder 26 May 2021 08: 14
                        -1
                        and you propose to throw tourists overboard in a woven suit with a parachute
                        Excuse me, dear, and where am I, exactly suggested, what you just wrote! ???
                      3. Intruder
                        Intruder 26 May 2021 08: 17
                        -1
                        for what purpose you find yourself outside the device: for a record or in case of an emergency escape
                        as well as in the atmosphere, deeply do not care about human barotrauma, from a height of 8-10 km. and that all the passenger cabins are crammed with high-altitude suits and parachute systems, and hundreds of people fly in one flight and even in shorts and T-shirts, no surprise ... laughing
      2. shahor
        shahor 25 May 2021 17: 36
        0
        Quote: slipped
        the system for such spaceplanes was developed back in the 70s in our country.

        Only the spaceplane itself did not happen ...
        1. slipped
          slipped 25 May 2021 21: 50
          +3
          Quote: shahor
          Only the spaceplane itself did not happen ...


          The reasons why that spaceplane did not happen lie in the plane of the desires of one person - the Minister of Defense of the USSR, and not in the design of the apparatus.

          It's about the design. In the design of the Spiral MTKS, the pilot sat in an autonomous descent capsule:



          He was wearing a Falcon-style flight suit.

          Unity pilots fly in ordinary VKKs with oxygen masks, which do not help during explosive decompression - at an altitude of over 20 km, nitrogen boils in the blood within a few seconds.



          The very design of the device is dangerous for passengers from the very beginning.
          1. shahor
            shahor 25 May 2021 22: 46
            -1
            Quote: slipped
            The reasons why that spaceplane did not happen lie in the plane of the desires of one person - the Minister of Defense of the USSR,

            There were few fools among the USSR Defense Ministers. And the ministers were informed better than you and me. There must have been serious reasons why the spaceplane could not fly. And beautiful pictures, ideas and sketch projects are far from reality. Moreover, Korolev even built N-1, but it did not fly. And she couldn't at that technological level. Let's talk about real things - not what could have been if it hadn't been for ... bad dancers. And Bezos quietly started a purely commercial project, without ambition, just chopping cabbage. Rescue means - as in a passenger liner. Reliability - I think, not worse. I would fly.
            1. slipped
              slipped 25 May 2021 22: 53
              +1
              Quote: shahor
              There must have been serious reasons why the spaceplane could not fly.


              So they are famous. Start of work on MTKS "Energia-Buran". A separate NGO was immediately established under the Spirali Group of Companies, which was named Molniya.

              Quote: shahor
              And beautiful pictures, ideas and sketch projects are far from reality.


              The "Spiral" project has reached analogous discharges.



              And the models for testing TZP were called "Bor" - they successfully flew into space using a different program.

              Quote: shahor
              Rescue means - as in a passenger liner. Reliability - I think, not worse. I would fly.


              But there is no such money? laughing I think if you had such a sum, then you would hardly have used it for this attraction. laughing
              1. shahor
                shahor 25 May 2021 23: 25
                -1
                Quote: slipped
                The "Spiral" project has reached analogous discharges.

                I hope the dropped analog was equipped with rescue equipment? And Buran? how was the crew rescue implemented on it? I think that no manned flight was planned, it was beyond the means of the USSR. As for my pocket - are you not an undercover tax inspector? Let's look at the price tag, maybe I'll fly.
                1. slipped
                  slipped 26 May 2021 03: 24
                  +2
                  Quote: shahor
                  I hope the dropped analog was equipped with rescue equipment?


                  Ejection seat. It was an atmospheric counterpart. There were several discharges.

                  Quote: shahor
                  And Buran? how was the crew rescue implemented on it? I think that no manned flight was planned, it was beyond the means of the USSR.


                  Wrong. In the planned third, already manned flight, at the initial stage, in the event of an accident, ejection was carried out from both the upper and lower decks. But, of course, it was a half-hearted solution, so an option with a detachable cockpit was invented, which was never implemented due to the stoppage of the program.

                  Quote: shahor
                  As for my pocket - are you not an undercover tax inspector? Let's look at the price tag, maybe I'll fly.


                  Do you have a free $ 250k per ticket? Oh well.
            2. Israel
              Israel 26 May 2021 06: 45
              0
              There were few fools among the USSR Defense Ministers. And the ministers were informed better than you and me.


              As it is now known that there were many "fools" and they could not correctly assess the purpose of the Shuttle program, they could not accept the fact that the Shuttle program is not military, but a commercial one, the main goal is to reduce the launch cost by means of a high degree of reuse and mass scale. And because of this incorrect assessment, the Energiya-Buran program began to make its own answer, which, despite the “cool” technical solutions, was completely unprofitable in economic terms and had no practical application.
              1. shahor
                shahor 26 May 2021 22: 49
                0
                Quote: Israel
                the Shuttle program is not military, but commercial,

                I agree with your assessment of the Buran program. But, you see, the Americans' business plan for the Shuttle turned out to be a failure - the program did not pay off and the costs even for the United States turned out to be exorbitant. I think that the whole point is that the technologies available at the time of the development of the programs did not provide an acceptable cost of the products.
                1. Israel
                  Israel 27 May 2021 19: 08
                  0
                  But as it turned out, the Shuttle also did not justify the initially laid hopes in terms of reducing the launch cost. Although, of course, he served for a long time.
  6. Intruder
    Intruder 24 May 2021 12: 59
    +4
    and then what?
    and then, fat orders from travel agencies and the franchise climbed up in value, perhaps then a cargo version will appear, to bring light cubsats to LEO, right with one light upper stage, and the American dream rushed to new financial horizons!
    1. Disant
      Disant 24 May 2021 13: 50
      +2
      maybe later a cargo version will appear, for displaying light cubsat (s) to LEO

      this is the most likely use - starlinks and so on can fall down
      1. Intruder
        Intruder 24 May 2021 13: 55
        +1
        this is the most likely use
        logical ..., cargo low-tonnage logistics, with support in the form of: a light suborbital spaceplane and a basic air carrier-accelerator, it directly asks for an idea ...
        1. Disant
          Disant 24 May 2021 14: 15
          +3
          the spaceplane is even superfluous - just from the booster carrier to shoot with a racket with a light satellite.
          or does the spaceplane give something? he will weigh mamanegoryuy - he will have to tamper with the atmosphere - the white knight is a light heron, you will have to design Mriya ..
          1. Intruder
            Intruder 24 May 2021 14: 35
            +1
            or does the spaceplane give something?
            But, pretentiously and aesthetically, he sits on the runway in a non-motorized mode !? wink
            And from the carrier with a racket with a light companion - an enterprise routine, a bullet into the heavens ... the shareholders will not understand what the greatness is, for so much money spent ??? winked
            PS People at all times, give a show and imagery of perception and so that, with a twist from the category: "not like there, with others ..."! good
            1. abrakadabre
              abrakadabre 26 May 2021 07: 44
              +1
              shareholders will not understand what the greatness is, for so much money spent?
              Shareholders will understand greatness in financial statements of profitability. Even if the process is many times not more aesthetically pleasing than a rocket.
              1. Intruder
                Intruder 26 May 2021 07: 46
                -1
                Shareholders will understand greatness in financial statements of profitability.
                And this, too, "warms" the bills well, but the chrome-plated bird in the hangar and on the strip is even better ... fellow
                1. abrakadabre
                  abrakadabre 26 May 2021 07: 56
                  +1
                  but the chrome bird in the hangar and on the strip is even better ... fellow
                  You sound like a romantic. And the shareholders are pragmatic people to the core. Moreover, gathering in flocks. Even if individually they are dreamers. So an unaesthetic air-jump rocket is many times more cost-effective than a chrome bird.
                  1. Intruder
                    Intruder 26 May 2021 08: 03
                    -1
                    You speak like a romantic
                    Perhaps still and somewhere deep ... yes
                    And the shareholders are pragmatic people to the core. Moreover, gathering in flocks. Even if individually they are dreamers.
                    well, and I happen to be not very "fluffy and romantic" in financial matters and in managing a family business, as well as in other matters of harsh life! wink
                    1. abrakadabre
                      abrakadabre 26 May 2021 08: 15
                      0
                      I happen to be not very "fluffy and romantic" in financial matters and in managing a family business
                      The profitability of launches is just a financial issue, as you understand.
                      And so yes ... All of us since Soviet childhood have been dreaming of spaceplanes.
  • Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart 24 May 2021 11: 12
    +1
    The development is practically useless, since to cut it 5 times more to any practically useful orbit there. The ship is, in fact, a super expensive attraction, which is late for 30 years.
    1. isv000
      isv000 24 May 2021 12: 43
      +1
      In the Nizhny Novgorod region, they planned to build a similar cosmodrome - to build an attraction, to drive the tourists to the suborbit, but something in the corridors was lost in the project. Or maybe it was not for nothing that he was lost - now, he surfaced in the FSA ... bully
  • isv000
    isv000 24 May 2021 11: 13
    0
    But a cosmodrome for suborbital flights in the Nizhny Novgorod region could already operate, but no, they still drive paper in a circle, agree ... fool
    1. Disant
      Disant 24 May 2021 12: 34
      +1
      yes, but tanks and unfinished kerosene and other spare parts will fall on people's heads
      1. isv000
        isv000 24 May 2021 12: 38
        0
        With alcohol. There is taiga. The plan was to use a spacecraft, not a rocket. fool drinks
        1. Disant
          Disant 24 May 2021 13: 04
          0
          Well, if with alcohol - then another matter.
          the only thing left to do is to develop a spacecraft and build a launch vehicle
          1. isv000
            isv000 24 May 2021 13: 32
            0
            Yes, it was already developed, the spacecraft is not a spacecraft, but into the stratosphere, into small space, it could climb to swing the tourists in zero gravity and go home. Since the engine was planned to run on alcohol, a distillery was to be installed next to this private cosmodrome. The presence of taiga made it possible to include ecotourism in the program. Solid pluses for vacationers, and fuel, again, is nearby ... drinks
        2. abrakadabre
          abrakadabre 26 May 2021 07: 46
          0
          There is taiga.
          Taiga in Nizhny Novgorod and to the Urals? Yes, you are straight Ermak with Khabarov! Look at that map.
          1. isv000
            isv000 26 May 2021 12: 22
            0
            The northeastern part of the region is in taiga-type forests ... Should I look at the map when I pick mushrooms there ... fool
  • forty-eighth
    forty-eighth 24 May 2021 11: 22
    +3
    And they said a swindler ...
  • Victorio
    Victorio 24 May 2021 11: 30
    +3
    nice however.
    1. isv000
      isv000 24 May 2021 12: 39
      -6
      Surely it was not without Soviet drawings ... bully
    2. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 26 May 2021 07: 51
      0
      nice however.
      Hmm ... The design looks disgusting. Both aesthetically and engineering. To be honest. No wonder all serious spaceplanes look like a rounded streamlined iron. Aerodynamic and thermal loads force. And those thin and long tail booms ...
  • DmSol
    DmSol 24 May 2021 12: 52
    +2
    They have closed everything already. Yes, and seriously, none of the entertainers of this event was going to do anything IMHO.
    Quote: isv000
    But a cosmodrome for suborbital flights in the Nizhny Novgorod region could already operate, but no, they still drive paper in a circle, agree ... fool
  • Dmitry V.
    Dmitry V. 24 May 2021 12: 58
    +2
    Pilots without high-altitude spacesuits - carelessness is off scale.
  • RoTTor
    RoTTor 25 May 2021 00: 07
    0
    Lagging in space has become a habit for a long time.
    And Rogozin is not going to do hara-kiri, it just gets fat ...
    .
    The An-225 booster plane is miraculously preserved, is barbarously used as a truck, there is no Buran or Spiral at all ...
    1. Israel
      Israel 25 May 2021 16: 50
      0
      Well, Buran, in principle, was an unsuccessful project from an economic point of view. And the Spiral was just closed in favor of Buran.
  • Klingon
    Klingon 26 May 2021 01: 39
    -2
    The device resembles the shuttles from Odyssey-2001 by S. Kubrik, design of the late 60s good
    and Roskosmosos will rub their nose? Well, where is Rogozin's design reusable trampoline? wassat
  • Klingon
    Klingon 26 May 2021 01: 46
    -2
    Russia's lagging behind in space exploration has reached a point of no return. Already the Chinese have wiped their nose ... and the Arabs. Well, nothing right now, our space Buffoon will push another speech, about the Eagle-Federation-Lunar Station and Trampoline ... the Mask will scold .. and yes, he will build a new skyscraper in the form of a rocket ... ugh (((
    1. slipped
      slipped 26 May 2021 12: 49
      +2
      Quote: Klingon
      Russia's lagging behind in space exploration has reached a point of no return.


      "Chef, the FSE is gone!" lol

      Meanwhile, at the Baikonur cosmodrome, complex factory tests of the MLM-U "Nauka" module have been successfully completed. And the preparation of the product began directly for the launch on July 15, 2021.



      In accordance with the work schedule until mid-July, installation of solar panels and placement of delivered cargoes, balancing and control weighing of the module, pressurization of pressurized compartments and control of the crew habitat, as well as the assembly of the space warhead, filling the tanks of the module with propellant components, general assembly of the space rocket is to be carried out. purpose, comprehensive testing of the components of the rocket and space complex, combined with their regular training, as well as a filling station, a universal technical and launch complex.
      1. Klingon
        Klingon 26 May 2021 19: 16
        -2
        yes why the heck need this long-term "science"? finally, after 20 years, completed! when the station has already exhausted its resource. I actually wrote about space exploration beyond orbit. And here Russia is a distant outsider. The last attempt, as far as I remember, was the shameful start Phobos-soil
        1. slipped
          slipped 26 May 2021 22: 45
          +1
          Quote: Klingon
          yes why the heck need this long-term construction "science"?


          Wow! Why the heck then space? laughing

          Quote: Klingon
          when the station has already exhausted its resource.


          It still flies for five years. Then we will make a new one.

          Quote: Klingon
          I actually wrote about space exploration beyond orbit.


          We master. At the Lagrange point L2 beyond the orbit of the Moon, the Russian station Spektr-RG cuts circles. Our scanners-spectrometers are in the orbit of the Moon and Mars, and soon Mercury.

          Quote: Klingon
          And here Russia is a distant outsider. The last attempt, as far as I remember, was the shameful start Phobos-soil


          Wrong. Russia launched on its rockets, and then used the IKI RAS in its scientific program - Mars-Express (ESA), Venera-Express (ESA). Today, we are using the ExoMars-2016 program (Roscosmos-ESA), launched by the TGO AMS, to the full, working on Mars from its orbit according to the Russian scientific program of Martian research. The discoveries of our scientists are regularly published in well-known scientific journals.

          This year, in October, the launch of the Luna-25 spacecraft from the Vostochny cosmodrome, the next - ExoMars-2022 from Baikonur, in 2024 - the Luna-26 spacecraft, in 2025 the Luna-27 spacecraft ".
          1. Klingon
            Klingon 27 May 2021 07: 05
            -2
            wassat He is again about spectrometers on other people's AMS, this does not count.
            you repeat the same thing every time like a parrot Rogozin's relative or what?
            If I have a bike about. from Bergamont and the brakes are from Shimano, this does not mean that Shimano has launched the entire bike into production. And instead of Shimano, they could have put brakes from Tektro or Magura. So it is with spectrometers. Could be from anyone.
            Luna-25, 35, that's when it flies and then we will argue, otherwise it will be shifted to the right for a couple of years, the skyscraper and the sawmill are still more important laughing
            1. slipped
              slipped 27 May 2021 09: 32
              +1
              Quote: Klingon
              wassat He is again about spectrometers on other people's AMS, this does not count.


              I see you don’t understand that a spectrometer is not a small box. This is quite a large box comparable to a satellite and it is not alone there. Consider that they were just a ride. laughing This time. Second, all of this was launched by us. Those. our rocket put the device on a certain flight path to Mars or Venus. If we draw an analogy with your beloved Phobos-Grunt, which failed the control system of its upper stage, then our RB did not refuse and everything accelerated and flew as needed.

              In addition, our Navigator platform of the Spektr-RG spacecraft has been successfully operating in deep space for two years now. Especially for you, an infographic about the location of the device:



              Quote: Klingon
              you repeat the same thing every time like a parrot Rogozin's relative or what?


              So the facts speak for themselves. To date, Russia is working perfectly from orbit both on the Moon and on Mars. In general, there are no problems with this.

              Quote: Klingon
              So it is with spectrometers. Could be from anyone.


              No, they couldn't. LRO and Beppi Colombo won international competitions - our devices turned out to be unique in their characteristics. And ExoMars is generally a joint program - there our devices are installed at the level of the apparatus design. Those. when designing it, the wishes of our developers were taken into account.

              Quote: Klingon
              Luna-25, 35, that's when it flies, then we'll talk ...


              Those. working Russian spacecraft beyond the orbit of the moon, do you want to see now? laughing Clear.
  • srha
    srha 26 May 2021 09: 26
    0
    It is dangerous to fly on "this" - it will break off the tails with such windage. Even the Columbia's wing fell off.
    By the way, a suborbital flight at a speed of Mach 3 (see the English-language WIKI) is a cool PR. Then the first space "tourist" should be recognized as a monkey from the United States that flew in 1948 on a V-2, and, as not the case, heroically perished - a parachute, damn it.
  • aries2200
    aries2200 26 May 2021 13: 47
    -1
    to fly into space is not to ride on a ferris wheel ... space is not fun ... this flight and the subsequent ones are a game with death ............ in roulette with a colt with one cartridge to the temple