The press said that Pakistan is interested in the Ukrainian tank "Oplot"

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This week, the Chief of Staff of the Pakistani Ground Forces, General Kamar Javed Bajwa, visited a military training ground in the Kharkiv region of Ukraine and witnessed field trials of various combat vehicles and systems. He showed great interest in modern Ukrainian weapons systems.

This is reported by the Defense Blog magazine.



The press said that Pakistan is showing interest in the Ukrainian tank "Oplot" and the anti-tank system "Skif", which is an export modification of the "Stugna" missile system.

Pakistan is interested in expanding defense cooperation with Ukraine through technology transfer and joint ventures in the future, as both sides can benefit from each other's experiences.

- said Bajwa.

Kiev and Islamabad agreed to further optimize defense cooperation, especially in the field of military production, training, intelligence and the fight against terrorism. Ukrainian dignitaries praised Pakistan's sincere efforts to establish peace and stability in the region and reaffirmed Ukraine's desire to expand bilateral cooperation. They assume that Islamabad can buy the T-84BM "Oplot" and ATGM "Skif" tanks.

At the moment, Thailand is the only operator of Oplot tanks outside of Ukraine. At the same time, Thailand several times threatened to terminate the contract with the Ukrainian manufacturer, as it did not meet the terms of delivery under the contract.

T-84BM "Oplot" - a tank with a combat weight of 51 tons. Crew - three people. The tank gun has a caliber of 125 mm.
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  1. xorek Rank
    xorek
    0
    23 May 2021 12: 27
    Packs will deceive you .. Do not get fooled by Svidomo and their owners in the State Department! hi
    And I became a general, men! Thank you ALL for your support .. We will not die alive!

    That was and will be ... soldier
    1. NIKN Rank
      NIKN
      +11
      23 May 2021 12: 29
      This week, the Chief of Staff of the Pakistani Ground Forces, General Kamar Javed Bajwa, visited a military training ground in the Kharkiv region of Ukraine and witnessed field trials of various combat vehicles and systems. He showed great interest in modern Ukrainian weapons systems.
      It would be surprising if he said "... well, these tanks of yours ..." What could he say then? Showed a courteous interest, otherwise he does not know about Thailand. :))
      1. Peak Rank
        Peak
        +5
        23 May 2021 12: 40
        The press said that Pakistan is interested in the Ukrainian tank "Oplot"


        And to the state of the industry of Ukraine, hardly capable of fulfilling any significant contract, Pakistan did not show?
        It’s somehow hard to believe that in Islamabad they don’t know who they have to deal with.

        The news is more of a category -
        Why, without fear of sin,
        Does the cuckoo praise the Rooster?
        For praising the Cuckoo.
      2. Polite Moose Rank
        Polite Moose
        +5
        23 May 2021 13: 57
        Quote: NIKNN
        What could he say that? Showed a courteous interest, otherwise he does not know about Thailand. :))

        In principle, the phrase: "and that over there ... is there under the canopy?" may well be interpreted as a manifestation of heightened interest.
        1. bayard Rank
          bayard
          +4
          23 May 2021 14: 40
          Quote: Polite Elk
          In principle, the phrase: "and that over there ... is there under the canopy?" may well be interpreted as a manifestation of heightened interest.

          Today, yes. But at one time, the packs were bought from the Sumerians (then still Ukrainians) a good batch of T-80s. It's time to change or upgrade the existing ones. Putting a diesel engine on the T-80 and updating the avionics + an updated protection system looks attractive. But ... Krajina-U is not the same.
          At the same time, there is another example of the modernization of the T-80 - in Russia. And Russia would not be against such an order, but ... India ... There are very serious arms contracts with India, and India is categorically against such a multi-vector nature of Russia ... Here they are maneuvering (so that they are already jealous in Russia) ... but the Sumerians. .. the Sumerians dream.
          1. Polite Moose Rank
            Polite Moose
            +5
            23 May 2021 15: 13
            Quote: bayard
            Here are the packs and maneuver

            Pakam has one road - to China.
            1. bayard Rank
              bayard
              +3
              23 May 2021 15: 41
              Quote: Polite Elk
              Pakam has one road - to China.

              They are already head over heels there, but not everything Chinese is suitable against Russian.
              And the Indians fight mainly against the Russians.
      3. TermNachTer Rank
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        23 May 2021 14: 39
        The Banderotankists themselves do not speak very well about the "stronghold", so most likely no one will buy them. Yes, there are already no hulls left for rework. But the ATGM, in terms of price-quality ratio, is not the worst. Subject to technology transfer, they will be suitable for Pakistan.
        1. Lara Croft Rank
          Lara Croft
          +1
          23 May 2021 21: 30
          Quote: TermNachTER
          Subject to technology transfer, they will be suitable for Pakistan.

          Do not blaspheme, in the backyards of the KHBTZ and BTRZ there are not so many Soviet T-80s left of which it was possible to make the T-84 "Oplot" ...
          1. TermNachTer Rank
            TermNachTer
            0
            23 May 2021 23: 23
            This is actually about the ATGM. About the "strongholds" I said that there are practically no buildings left for alteration.
        2. atakan Rank
          atakan
          0
          25 May 2021 01: 55
          When hit by a projectile, tanks from Vnaokraina always crack at the seams. This has been noticed a long time ago and many times. And the tanks of the USSR period are no exception.
          There have been several articles on this topic.
          So a tank from the outskirts is often disposable, then it cannot be pulled down or folded down.
    2. Asad Rank
      Asad
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      23 May 2021 12: 44
      General in two months! Strong Meehan!
      1. Torins Rank
        Torins
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        23 May 2021 13: 15
        So he has three times more messages in two months than I have in 5 years)) I join in the congratulations!)) drinks
      2. dmmyak40 Rank
        dmmyak40
        +3
        23 May 2021 13: 21
        In war, titles are always gained faster. May have been assigned ahead of schedule ...
        1. Peak Rank
          Peak
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          23 May 2021 13: 47
          Quote: dmmyak40
          In war, titles are always gained faster. May have been assigned ahead of schedule ...

          On what front is he fighting, what kind of unit?
          Not secret?
      3. Peak Rank
        Peak
        +6
        23 May 2021 13: 39
        Quote: ASAD
        General in two months! Strong Meehan!

        So this is how it turns out here they become "marshals" what .
        Manipulation and cheating...
        Rating 205, with 000 messages in less than 1800 months, with an average coefficient of 2,5 "likes" per one!

        Who will believe that the rating is not inflated, and that at least someone interested is covering up and dragging a friend?

        For a "mere mortal" there would have long been at least questions winked
        1. xorek Rank
          xorek
          -1
          23 May 2021 13: 51
          Quote: PiK
          Quote: ASAD
          General in two months! Strong Meehan!

          So this is how it turns out here they become "marshals" what .
          Manipulation and cheating...
          Rating 205, with 000 messages in less than 1800 months, with an average coefficient of 2,5 "likes" per one!

          Who will believe that the rating is not inflated, and that at least someone interested is covering up and dragging a friend?

          For a "mere mortal" there would have long been at least questions winked

          My deserved rating, it used to be - 20 per evening, from Svidomo and other exceptional ..So write a complaint))))
          It doesn't matter to me in principle, but he says that such opinions are in demand in Russia and in Russian souls. wink .. I write that my heart ached, maybe clumsily, but as best I can .. hi
          Such things, in the tank divisions of the Urals!
          1. Peak Rank
            Peak
            +5
            23 May 2021 13: 53
            Quote: xorek
            My deserved rating

            One thing is already clear - modesty does not adorn you.
            Quote: xorek
            happened and - 20 per evening, from Svidomo and other exceptional

            For the sake of interest, I'll see if this is so or not. "Manuscripts do not burn."
            1. Normal ok Rank
              Normal ok
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              23 May 2021 15: 47
              Quote: PiK
              Quote: xorek
              My deserved rating

              One thing is already clear - modesty does not adorn you.
              Quote: xorek
              happened and - 20 per evening, from Svidomo and other exceptional

              For the sake of interest, I'll see if this is so or not. "Manuscripts do not burn."

              It has long been noted that Meehan is "not adorned" by anything at all: neither modesty, nor intellect, nor erudition, and so on.
          2. Hypertension Rank
            Hypertension
            +1
            23 May 2021 19: 26
            Quote: xorek
            It doesn't matter to me in principle, but he says that such opinions are in demand in Russia and in Russian souls.

            If so, then it is sad. It's one thing to contemplate your opuses as an example of the terminal stage of jingoistic patriotism, and another thing to understand that such a "unique" as you are not alone.
        2. Lara Croft Rank
          Lara Croft
          +5
          23 May 2021 13: 53
          Quote: PiK
          For a "mere mortal" there would have long been at least questions winked

          There are no “mere mortals” among the “generals” and “marshals”, with rare exceptions ...
          Among the good members of the forum, there are also evil ones who break up into "packs of jackals" (on topics - "communists", "liberoids", "Bulgarians", "Israeli Jews", etc.) and give another friend ++, and good forum users and evil (but from other "jackals of the pack"), respectively ----, you need to understand, well, local authors are trying not to provide objective and sane information in their articles, but to cover all members of the forum with attention to their article. .., the title of the article is of great importance here ...

          But then I hope you are a kind forum member who is not chasing a "rating" ...?
          1. Peak Rank
            Peak
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            23 May 2021 14: 01
            Quote: Lara Croft
            But then I hope you are a kind forum member who is not chasing a "rating" ...?


            Yes that rating, so - spit and grind. By the way, according to my "likes" and "dislikes" it is immediately clear that this is "honestly earned" without any additions or patronage.
            But the fact that 110 + for one comment is on average for some, and what is pulled by the ears, then for something - this is alarming Yes
            1. Lara Croft Rank
              Lara Croft
              +4
              23 May 2021 14: 06
              Quote: PiK
              But the fact that 110 + for one comment is on average for some, and what is pulled by the ears, then for something - this is alarming Yes

              It's just that the "flock" is numerous, sometimes they try to write a comment in such a way as to please the representatives of 2-3 "flocks" at once or hurray-patriots who are present in all "flocks" ...
              from my "likes" and "dislikes" it is immediately clear that this is "honestly earned" without any additions or patronage

              Don't worry, I believe you ...
              1. Peak Rank
                Peak
                +3
                23 May 2021 14: 12
                Quote: Lara Croft
                It's just that the "flock" is numerous, sometimes they try to write a comment in such a way as to please the representatives of 2-3 "flocks" at once or hurray-patriots who are present in all "flocks" ...

                It is clear now. It is just not clear why someone from the administration did not immediately fly rusted for the minuses, while others who cover the "damage" of 20 minuses, and in two months, are deduced by pluses into "generals" in the easy Yes .
                1. xorek Rank
                  xorek
                  -6
                  23 May 2021 14: 21
                  Quote: PiK
                  Quote: Lara Croft
                  It's just that the "flock" is numerous, sometimes they try to write a comment in such a way as to please the representatives of 2-3 "flocks" at once or hurray-patriots who are present in all "flocks" ...

                  It is clear now. It is just not clear why someone from the administration did not immediately fly rusted for the minuses, while others who cover the "damage" of 20 minuses, and in two months, are deduced by pluses into "generals" in the easy Yes .

                  I can reassure you, I was a marshal here and more than once and beat more than once .. hi
                  So stop hysteria with envy ..
                  To each his own ! hi
                  1. Peak Rank
                    Peak
                    +4
                    23 May 2021 14: 47
                    Quote: xorek
                    I can calm you down, I was a marshal here and more than once

                    There is no doubt that with such support from "unknown persons" likes, you will soon become one again.

                    Quote: xorek
                    To each his own !


                    Nazi slogan. Buchenwald.

                2. Lara Croft Rank
                  Lara Croft
                  +2
                  23 May 2021 14: 22
                  Quote: PiK
                  it is not clear why someone from the administration did not immediately fly rusted for the minuses, while others who cover the "damage" of 20 minuses, and in two months in the easy are deduced by pluses in the "generals" - a question Yes .

                  Moderators are people too and they may also like certain topics or groups of persons included in this or that "pack" ...
                  If you get nasty or questioned the opinion of a "Bulgarian" or "communist" in the article, get a minus ...
                  There are members of the forum who "pereobulis", ie. positioned themselves all the time as a hurray-patriot, scored ++++, got a general, and then sharply became a "liberoid" who does not be rude to good members of the forum and evil ones from other "packs", but provokes them into rudeness towards himself, so that later write a complaint...
                  1. Peak Rank
                    Peak
                    +3
                    23 May 2021 14: 52
                    Quote: Lara Croft

                    Moderators are people too and they may also like certain topics or groups of people included in this or that "pack"

                    Your lured death squads? But what about the principle - "Plato is my friend but the truth is dearer"according to which the moderator must be completely neutral and impartial?

                    And yes, I have already noticed that one of the moderators for the "new general" is here even "Hurray!" expressed, so you are clearly right in describing the vicious protectionist clannishness of this resource ...

                    Or here, in another "classic" - "Friends Everything, the rest of the Law"?
                    1. Lara Croft Rank
                      Lara Croft
                      +7
                      23 May 2021 14: 58
                      Quote: PiK
                      Or here in another way

                      Advice. If you see that you are being tied (usually 1-2 d.b.) into a useless discussion, it is better not to answer, otherwise, when you later come home from work, you will have --- opposite each of your comments from the whole "flock "....
                      Sometimes it's better to just read the article without commenting on anything ...
                      1. Peak Rank
                        Peak
                        0
                        23 May 2021 15: 03
                        Quote: Lara Croft
                        when you later come home from work, you will have --- opposite each of your comments from the whole "pack" ....

                        "And did not go to work," and ---- already lol

                        Tobacco Yes
                  2. culinary Rank
                    culinary
                    +1
                    23 May 2021 15: 42
                    Quote: Lara Croft
                    Quote: PiK
                    it is not clear why someone from the administration did not immediately fly rusted for the minuses, while others who cover the "damage" of 20 minuses, and in two months in the easy are deduced by pluses in the "generals" - a question Yes .

                    Moderators are people too and they may also like certain topics or groups of persons included in this or that "pack" ...
                    If you get nasty or questioned the opinion of a "Bulgarian" or "communist" in the article, get a minus ...
                    There are members of the forum who "pereobulis", ie. positioned themselves all the time as a hurray-patriot, scored ++++, got a general, and then sharply became a "liberoid" who does not be rude to good members of the forum and evil ones from other "packs", but provokes them into rudeness towards himself, so that later write a complaint...

                    Well, yes, for a relatively harmless comparison of some countries, you can get a warning and delete a comment. I already have 2 of them, one more that does not fall under the censorship of the moderators, and I am in the "bathhouse" ...
                    Although openly unacceptable texts pass by.
            2. dedusik Rank
              dedusik
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              23 May 2021 18: 12
              Quote: PiK
              But the fact that 110 + for one comment is on average for some, and what is pulled by the ears, then for something - this is alarming

              Yes, they are being dragged into the Duma, which is not to be understood, and maybe they are also candidates for the President. wassat
              1. Lara Croft Rank
                Lara Croft
                0
                23 May 2021 21: 52
                Quote: dedusik
                and maybe a candidate for the President wassat

                I think that you are a kind and trusting member of the forum (like me) and you wrote your evil comment about the presidential candidate in the midst of some stress and without thinking ...
                1. Peak Rank
                  Peak
                  +1
                  24 May 2021 08: 00
                  Quote: Lara Croft
                  I think that you are a kind and trusting member of the forum (like me) and you wrote your evil comment about the presidential candidate in the midst of some stress and without thinking ...

                  Right ! We still lacked the President-Ferret ...
    3. Thrifty Rank
      Thrifty
      -1
      23 May 2021 12: 54
      And, the Chinese will let these thrown into their fiefdom?
    4. Egoza Rank
      Egoza
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      23 May 2021 13: 02
      Quote: xorek
      This is how I was and will be

      CONGRATULATIONS!!! URRA!
      1. xorek Rank
        xorek
        -2
        23 May 2021 13: 21
        Quote: Egoza
        Quote: xorek
        This is how I was and will be

        CONGRATULATIONS!!! URRA!

        Thank you Elena! I will live up to the trust .. soldier
        1. Peak Rank
          Peak
          +1
          23 May 2021 17: 13
          Quote: xorek
          Thank you Elena! I will live up to the trust ..

          Wouldn't advertise their association with the administration so openly ...

          Shame negative .
    5. Flashpoint Rank
      Flashpoint
      -3
      23 May 2021 13: 18
      Quote: xorek
      Packs will deceive you .. Do not get fooled by Svidomo and their owners in the State Department! hi
      And I became a general, men! Thank you ALL for your support .. We will not die alive!

      That was and will be ... soldier

      Congratulations! good
      1. xorek Rank
        xorek
        -2
        23 May 2021 14: 41
        Quote: Flashpoint
        Congratulations!

        Thank you Anton! soldier God knows I am writing from the bottom of my heart .. Someone is angry, someone supports .. Life goes on!
    6. Grandfather Rank
      Grandfather
      0
      23 May 2021 16: 02
      Quote: xorek
      Packs will deceive you .. Do not get fooled by Svidomo and their owners in the State Department! hi
      And I became a general, men! Thank you ALL for your support .. We will not die alive!

      That was and will be ... soldier

      as you were a henchman of ANY power, so you will be ... and the next "general" - on top of your abilities, will block you in a couple of weeks ... "marshal" is no longer to be seen? not in this life? mikhan ...
    7. Stepan S Rank
      Stepan S
      +1
      24 May 2021 14: 41
      Oh, how many there are Svidomo and admirers of their masters in the State Department. The cons were stuffed out of the blue
      1. atakan Rank
        atakan
        +1
        25 May 2021 02: 04
        Now on duty on this site about 20 pieces. This is how they spend their lives, putting minuses.
        Despite the fact that these imperfections put a minus to everyone, from top to bottom. A dozen more such bots and the rating system will become negative.
  2. Reserve buildbat Rank
    Reserve buildbat
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    23 May 2021 12: 29
    Something I did not understand ... Are rake dances in fashion among packs nowadays?
    1. xorek Rank
      xorek
      0
      23 May 2021 12: 42
      Quote: stock buildbat
      Something I did not understand ... Are rake dances in fashion among packs nowadays?

      The State Department will send them for the purchase .. We must somehow justify the investment in Ukraine wink
      1. KCA Rank
        KCA
        +5
        23 May 2021 13: 11
        At least they thought a little, now is not the 80s, Pakistan is not only not friends with the United States, but is directly in opposition, is friends with China, a little less with Russia, and certainly the State Department is not a decree to them
    2. donavi49 Rank
      donavi49
      +4
      23 May 2021 12: 45
      Well, these are not even intentions, but rumors. Pakistan with Imran Khan makes various lobby-oriented purchases, so suitcases with arguments in favor of a contract can solve the issue there.

      However, on the other hand, Pakistan has already chosen a new generation MBT (for Pakistan), signed a contract with Norinko, receives technologies for the subsequent release of components and assemblies (the license option has already been signed). A firm contract for 180 tanks and another 120 in option with production in Pakistan.




      On the other hand, Pakistan at its factories is carrying out a phased modernization of national Al-Khalid tanks on a large scale with significant use of Ukrainian (missiles, engines, elements of the FCS) and Chinese (electronics, TPV) components.

      However, it is generally stupid to put another type of tank. They will have the most modern and powerful VT4 (and they have already paid for this, and the tanks are being shipped), their Al-Khalid will be massive, and the old people Al-Zarar (the fruit of decades of violence against the T-54 - already up to a normal engine, cannon, FCS and etc.) to crush the Taliban as a means of strengthening their positions. Taking into account the fact that the T-80UD almost do not participate in parades, exercises, exacerbations, they are either very much cherished (but what's the use of the technology with which dust particles are blown off?) Or they have already died for the most part.
    3. Egoza Rank
      Egoza
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      23 May 2021 13: 07
      Quote: Stroibat stock
      Are rake dancing in vogue with packs nowadays?

      Come on! Maybe they only pretend to report to the United States: "You advised - we were going." And the press is such a press! Why not write!
  3. Prisoner Rank
    Prisoner
    +2
    23 May 2021 12: 40
    "My grandmother had no trouble, so I bought a pig." (from) laughing
  4. alex aircraft Rank
    alex aircraft
    +1
    23 May 2021 12: 40
    Pakistan in the 90s ordered 300 t80ud (t: 84) and can now conclude a contract. The question is, is the Ukrainian capable of fulfilling it?
    1. xorek Rank
      xorek
      +4
      23 May 2021 12: 44
      Quote: alex aircraft
      Pakistan in the 90s ordered 300 t80ud (t: 84) and can now conclude a contract. The question is, is the Ukrainian capable of fulfilling it?

      The main thing is that the money is transferred, and there the grass does not grow .. The USA will cover!
    2. Constanty Rank
      Constanty
      +4
      23 May 2021 13: 16
      Only then was Ukraine able to fulfill the contract thanks to the backlog / reserves of the USSR times.
      Currently, he doubts that Ukraine has such opportunities.
  5. askort154 Rank
    askort154
    +1
    23 May 2021 12: 47
    Kiev and Islamabad agreed to further optimize defense cooperation, especially in the field of military production, ...

    China was the largest buyer of Ukrainian weapons. Vosnomnom - engines for tanks. But after the "kidalovo" of the Chinese on the sale of "Yuzhmash",
    China has understood who it is dealing with and is demanding to return 3 billion to it.
    Now Pakistanis have pecked at Ukrainian "bacon"? The chicken is in the nest, and the Ukrainian authorities are already announcing it, for domestic consumption, as their success in the international arms trade.
    1. kapitan92 Rank
      kapitan92
      0
      23 May 2021 22: 45
      Quote: askort154
      But after the "kidalovo" of the Chinese on the sale of "Yuzhmash",
      China has understood who it is dealing with and is demanding to return 3 billion to it.

      hi
      Maybe all the same "Motor Sich"? Or am I missing something?
  6. Murmur 55 Rank
    Murmur 55
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    23 May 2021 12: 50
    Well, I don’t know, it looks like news about the blades from the turntables. Also who are PLANNING kind of like to buy, and even then there are assurances of assurances of intentions laughing
  7. Pavel57 Rank
    Pavel57
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    23 May 2021 12: 54
    A Type99 is not offered?
    1. donavi49 Rank
      donavi49
      +4
      23 May 2021 13: 15
      So the packs have already bought 300 VT-4 (180 in China or whatever, and the rest in Pakistan from Chinese kits).



      In general, VT4 is so laughing, laughing, becoming a serious player in the market. In total, 500+ have been contracted and there are still quite a few interested / pre-contracts / impressions. Plus, in 2021, the tanks went into a real battle against BokoHaram. And so far they have not lost a single one (but the Ukrainian T-72s have already lost two pieces in battles). It is clear that it is not an indicator, but a tick - it participates in battles, you can already put it on the booklet.

  8. Ros 56 Rank
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    23 May 2021 13: 07
    It depends on what press they write. And there they do not write about the performance discipline of Banderlog, or does the example of China teach Pakistanis nothing?
  9. tralflot1832 Rank
    tralflot1832
    +3
    23 May 2021 13: 16
    And this is nothing that Ukraine in the 90s, bypassed us in a circle and delivered 320 T80U to Pakistan. On the one hand, it's good, Donbas got less.
    1. Monster_Fat Rank
      Monster_Fat
      +2
      23 May 2021 13: 53
      That's it. And "Oplot" is a good tank.
    2. Stepan S Rank
      Stepan S
      +1
      24 May 2021 14: 45
      Ukraine has sold a lot of the weapons that it got during the collapse of the country. We can say that I sold everything, that I could sell. Themselves were left with empty pockets. So it's such a "round trip".
  10. sen Rank
    sen
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    23 May 2021 13: 19
    Pakistan is friendly with China and would rather buy from it. It will be cheaper and will not be thrown.
  11. aszzz888 Rank
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    23 May 2021 13: 30
    The press said that Pakistan is interested in the Ukrainian tank "Oplot"
    ukronatsiki will scout Pakistan like suckers laughing
    1. Bumblebee_3 Rank
      Bumblebee_3
      +1
      23 May 2021 14: 53
      aszzz888 (sheriff)
      I do not think that ukronatsiki are more cunning or smarter than Asians. Yes, Pakistanis, Asians, but not woodpeckers, and not suckers. The time of suckers, for them, has already passed.
  12. rocket757 Rank
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    23 May 2021 13: 42
    The press said that Pakistan is interested in the Ukrainian tank "Oplot"
    ... Great again .... it seems EVERYONE already knows what to have with Kukuev's affairs, not to respect oneself.
    Empty chatter.
  13. isv000 Rank
    isv000
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    23 May 2021 13: 42
    General Komar has no idea what scheme the sailors are drawing him into ...
    1. Genry Rank
      Genry
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      23 May 2021 14: 50
      Quote: isv000
      General Komar has no idea what scheme the sailors are dragging him into ...

      The East is a delicate matter: if you don't grease it, you won't sell it.
  14. Gennady Fomkin Rank
    Gennady Fomkin
    -1
    23 May 2021 13: 43
    Pakistan is interested in expanding defense cooperation with Ukraine through technology transfer and joint ventures in the future, as both sides can benefit from each other's experiences.

    - said Bajwa. laughing There is nothing to waste valuable resources. They will be useful to their future owners. We should see where, who, what is selling ukro vk.I, respectively, if possible, pull these tubes out.
  15. pytar Rank
    pytar
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    23 May 2021 14: 19
    Pakistan is interested in expanding defense cooperation with Ukraine through technology transfer and joint ventures in the future, as both sides can benefit from each other's experiences.

    It seems to me that behind the demarche of the Pakistani general, there is a more ambitious goal! For Pakistan, the transfer of some Ukrainian technologies in the field of armored vehicles is indeed of interest. Despite the fact that the Pakistanis have a fairly close cooperation with China, they are trying to develop their national defense industry, and accordingly, they will try to acquire everything that is useful for them.
    But! I suspect that Pakistan is also paving the way for the promotion of its JF-17 fighter in Ukraine!

    The car is simple, while the price is pristine for countries with a limited budget! Ukraine is looking for opportunities to update its aircraft fleet, Western models are expensive, not affordable. True, there is a problem with Ross. RD-93 engines sitting on the JF-17 Thunder, but the packs may well find an alternative solution. In short, some form of barter between Ukraine and Pakistan is possible. hi
    1. Bumblebee_3 Rank
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      23 May 2021 14: 57
      pytar (Boyan Ivanov)
      Replacing an engine, even an alternative one, is already creating a new aircraft. Whatever you name it.
      1. pytar Rank
        pytar
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        24 May 2021 12: 01
        Replacing an engine, even an alternative one, is already creating a new aircraft. Whatever you name it.

        This is problem? Unlikely.
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  17. Gennady Fomkin Rank
    Gennady Fomkin
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    23 May 2021 14: 54
    Quote: pytar
    Pakistan is interested in expanding defense cooperation with Ukraine through technology transfer and joint ventures in the future, as both sides can benefit from each other's experiences.

    It seems to me that behind the demarche of the Pakistani general, there is a more ambitious goal! For Pakistan, the transfer of some Ukrainian technologies in the field of armored vehicles is indeed of interest. Despite the fact that the Pakistanis have a fairly close cooperation with China, they are trying to develop their national defense industry, and accordingly, they will try to acquire everything that is useful for them.
    But! I suspect that Pakistan is also paving the way for the promotion of its JF-17 fighter in Ukraine!

    The car is simple, while the price is pristine for countries with a limited budget! Ukraine is looking for opportunities to update its aircraft fleet, Western models are expensive, not affordable. True, there is a problem with Ross. RD-93 engines sitting on the JF-17 Thunder, but the packs may well find an alternative solution. In short, some form of barter between Ukraine and Pakistan is possible. hi



    In short, not tudy and not syudy laughing
  18. dgonni Rank
    dgonni
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    23 May 2021 15: 22
    Well, let's put it this way. Pakistan operates 315-320 modernized T-80uds.
    The Pakistanis have no comments on them.
    At the same time, Kharkiv provides support for the repair and supply of spare parts.
    The bulwark is in fact a well-known modernization of the same Birch.
    So there are options as with a new contract for the supply of new tanks. So it is in terms of modernizing Pakistani to the level of a stronghold.
    1. Stepan S Rank
      Stepan S
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      24 May 2021 14: 48
      None of this will happen. No modernization, no supply of new equipment. The fact that the Pakistani saw the tank and said that he liked it was out of politeness. Ukraine is now unable to pull any serious contract for the supply of new equipment.
  19. Gennady Fomkin Rank
    Gennady Fomkin
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    23 May 2021 15: 44
    And in general, when will our military-industrial complex turn a blind eye to copyright infringement?
  20. Fitter65 Rank
    Fitter65
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    23 May 2021 16: 22
    The press said that Pakistan is interested in the Ukrainian tank "Oplot"
    And in what press does this write?
    In addition to the aforementioned VT-4, the Ukrainian "Oplot-M" also took part in the announced tender. The Kharkov product was thrown by plane for testing. After their completion, a number of Ukrainian sources even hastened to announce victory over the equipment of the NORINCO corporation.
    But, as it turned out later, it was too early to rejoice, the car revealed many design flaws. They were also found from a Chinese competitor, but judging by the further development of events, the Chinese were able to quickly eliminate them.
    what else does the press give out? ...
    ... You can recall the rather shameful story with the supply of "Oplots" to Thailand, the "odyssey" with the BTR-4 in Iraq. Therefore, the recent attacks of the Ukrainian media on the Russian T-90s are understandable, they were made out of despair. Ukraine has lost the possibility of mass production of new equipment, factories are only capable of repairing and somehow improving the Soviet legacy ...
    And this is in general from the series - hold a watermelon !!! laughing
    VT-4s are not the only tanks acquired by Pakistan. So, from Serbia this month received modernized T-55.
    details here https://rg.ru/2020/04/21/novyj-proval-oplota-pakistan-zakupil-vt-4-vmesto-ukrainskih-tankov.html
  21. Azimuth Rank
    Azimuth
    +2
    24 May 2021 00: 24
    Quite an ordinary event. The history of FTC between Pakistan and Ukraine has a long history, this is the supply of T-80UD, and the supply of tank diesel engines, service maintenance of both tanks and diesel engines, and aircraft engines. Let me remind those who have forgotten that all TV-Z of our Mi-8 and Mi-17, Mi-24 and Mi-35 helicopters are serviced by Ukrainians.
    Pakistan is considering the purchase or development of the L-15 UBS for its Air Force. This supersonic UBS developed by the Chinese with the support of our Yakovlev design bureau and based on the Yak-130, like the original version of the Yak-130, is equipped with an AI-222, but with an afterburner.
    In Ukraine, there are still and continue to develop enterprises in the field of location, missile weapons systems, etc., Pakistan may be interested in a lot, as well as Turkey, with which Pakistan has become very close in recent decades and has common programs.

    It is wrong to say that Pakistan will automatically buy everything from China, Pakistan is diversifying its arms suppliers in every possible way and is doing on the localization of the production of basic systems.
    1. Stepan S Rank
      Stepan S
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      24 May 2021 14: 56
      Let me remind those who have forgotten that all TV-Z of our Mi-8 and Mi-17, Mi-24 and Mi-35 helicopters are serviced by Ukrainians.

      This could have been until 2014, and I deeply doubt it. The engine was developed by the Klimov Design Bureau from St. Petersburg, so we have both the opportunity and the full right to independently service the engines.
  22. Azimuth Rank
    Azimuth
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    25 May 2021 16: 46
    Quote: Stepan S
    Let me remind those who have forgotten that all TV-Z of our Mi-8 and Mi-17, Mi-24 and Mi-35 helicopters are serviced by Ukrainians.

    This could have been until 2014, and I deeply doubt it. The engine was developed by the Klimov Design Bureau from St. Petersburg, so we have both the opportunity and the full right to independently service the engines.

    Well, this is understandable that we have the right, but do we have the opportunity? ... It is unlikely that the Klimov Design Bureau is now busy with this.