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In Ukraine: "The Mosquito Fleet is unlikely to help if the Ukrainian Navy finds itself face to face with the Russian Navy"

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Experts are discussing the statement of the former Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Viktor Muzhenko about the "danger for Ukraine." According to the Ukrainian general, "the threat of creating Novorossiya has not disappeared anywhere." Muzhenko said that the objects and territories that Ukraine may lose are Odessa, the Kherson region, the North Crimean Canal. According to the ex-chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the country may turn out to be "land-based", losing access to both the Azov and Black Seas.


Commenting on Viktor Muzhenko's statement, Ukraine itself notes that the option of losing access to the sea "does not look like a bad fantasy." Such a possibility, as noted, exists. At the same time, Ukrainian experts rely on statements by the head of the SBU, Ivan Bakanov, who claims that Russia can allegedly launch an offensive against Ukraine from five to six directions, including the Crimean and Belarusian ones.

In Ukraine, it is believed that the country's loss of access to the Black and Azov Seas can be avoided "in only two ways." Method number one is called the entry of Ukraine into the North Atlantic military bloc (NATO). The second way is "the active development of the country's naval forces." At the same time, it is noted that "the mosquito fleet is unlikely to help if the Ukrainian Navy finds itself face to face with the Russian Navy." This is despite the fact that over the past few years in Kiev made a statement about the "high potential efficiency" of the same "mosquito fleet". In the Ukrainian Navy, it is understood as a fleet of dozens of high-speed boats, some of which were transferred by the American side.

Now it is proposed to focus on the construction of patrol ships. Not so long ago, an idea arose in Ukraine to convert the Korets tug into a patrol ship. At the same time, no explanations were made regarding the potential speed characteristics of such a ship.

In Ukraine: "The Mosquito Fleet is unlikely to help if the Ukrainian Navy finds itself face to face with the Russian Navy"


Today the tugboat Korets belongs to the Azov flotilla of the Ukrainian Navy and is based in Berdyansk. At the same time, the tugboat is preparing to celebrate its 50th anniversary.
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  1. xorek
    xorek 23 May 2021 09: 28
    +6
    "The Mosquito Fleet is unlikely to help if the Ukrainian Navy finds itself face to face with the Russian Navy"

    Well, purely skedaddle if only .. And then I don't know how they will sail, everything is controlled by Russia.
    1. Finches
      Finches 23 May 2021 09: 35
      +19
      Mosquito fleet, mosquito brains, mosquito interests, mosquito wishes and mosquito dreams ... That is, Ukraine is a family of small blood-sucking insects, the preimaginal stages of which develop in rotting plant debris (all that remains of Soviet Ukraine)! That's all there is to say about this Galician misunderstanding!
      1. xorek
        xorek 23 May 2021 09: 43
        +7
        Quote: Finches
        That's all there is to say about this Galician misunderstanding!

        Not even to say, but already to remain silent, as about the dead. For a long time Ukraine will be laundered from this shame and betrayal of the Slavic community ..
        And for the sho will not give us a ride. negative hi
        1. Mitroha
          Mitroha 23 May 2021 09: 48
          +1
          Expert opinion of the Captains Obvious winked
        2. Mountain shooter
          Mountain shooter 23 May 2021 09: 52
          +5
          Quote: xorek
          shame and betrayal of the Slavic community ..

          They will not be able to get rid of them for generations. So many nasty things have been done. And the generation that will not know the Russian language and believe in the "Great Ukrov" who dug the Black Sea and poured the Caucasus is already growing ...
          1. aleks neym_2
            aleks neym_2 23 May 2021 10: 14
            +4
            This is the trouble: try to say something sensible, they will laugh at you at best, and take any heresy at face value (Jean D * Ark comes from ...)
            1. Vladimir Mashkov
              Vladimir Mashkov 23 May 2021 15: 01
              -1
              "In Ukraine, it is believed that the country's loss of access to the Black and Azov Seas can be avoided" in only two ways. "The number one method is the entry of Ukraine into the North Atlantic military bloc (NATO). The second way is" the active development of the country's naval forces. " At the same time, it is noted that "the mosquito fleet is unlikely to help if the Ukrainian Navy finds itself face to face with the Russian Navy."

              It's funny (and tragic for the current European integrators and Bandera), but both ways difficult to implement.
              As for the "mosquitoes", this is ukrokamikaze. However, the same as the others.
      2. Clear
        Clear 23 May 2021 09: 55
        +8
        Quote: Finches
        Mosquito fleet, mosquito brains, mosquito interests, mosquito wishes and mosquito dreams ... That is, Ukraine is a family of small blood-sucking insects, the preimaginal stages of which develop in rotting plant debris (all that remains of Soviet Ukraine)! That's all there is to say about this Galician misunderstanding!

        But with all this, they still present conditions and claims to Russia, Germany ... Super insolence. And, according to the shelling of Donbass, they are just criminals.
        1. xorek
          xorek 23 May 2021 10: 06
          +2
          Quote: Clear
          But with all this, they still present conditions and claims to Russia, Germany ... Super insolence. And, according to the shelling of Donbass, they are just criminals.

          This is what Yasnaya feeds on, the Galicians-Westerners got fat there on gratis grub, no need to work, they went out to Khreshchatykh with torches Get out shouted, posed
          And again in hotels (earlier in tents)))) we scattered to drink vodka and shout "glory to ukraine" ..
          So they live .. Zelensky and others are terribly afraid of them.

          Of course, Bilyo was shot for his insolence, but how many of them are sitting in Kiev, eating and drinking for free ..
          1. Clear
            Clear 23 May 2021 10: 11
            +5
            Quote: xorek
            Galicians-Westerners got fat there on gratis grub, no need to work, went to Khreshchatykh with torches Get shouted, posed
            And again in hotels (earlier in tents)))) we scattered to drink vodka and shout "glory to ukraine" ..
            So they live .. Zelensky and others are terribly afraid of them.

            Europe understands this too, but cannot (or rather does not want to) do anything with them because of the United States.
        2. NIKN
          NIKN 23 May 2021 10: 09
          +5
          Yeah. Why then the thought came, now, if Nikolai Vasilyevich Gogol lived today ... how would "Evenings on a Farm near Dikanka" look like in modern writing?
          1. Maikcg
            Maikcg 23 May 2021 16: 50
            +2
            Hypersonic flights for skelvik, nanotechnological dumplings, zombie apocalypse from dusk to dawn.
      3. Thrifty
        Thrifty 23 May 2021 11: 15
        +1
        Finches hi - ideally, a mosquito territory should remain from this uk-royna! The rest must be returned to Russia, even by force of arms!
    2. Andrei Nikolaevich
      Andrei Nikolaevich 23 May 2021 09: 46
      +4
      In general, Ukraine does not need an army and a navy. For one simple reason: they do not pay taxes and do not want to pay them. And those inflatable "cruisers" that were presented to them can be distributed to fishermen. At least they will feed their families and may even agree to pay taxes.
    3. Thrifty
      Thrifty 23 May 2021 11: 13
      -1
      Weasel-Vitaly, a slipper of reptiles! Open fire on the keyboard or from the keyboard, otherwise they will build a fleet without your opposition wassat !!!
      1. xorek
        xorek 23 May 2021 11: 31
        +3
        Quote: Thrifty
        Weasel-Vitaly, a slipper of reptiles! Open fire on the keyboard or from the keyboard, otherwise they will build a fleet without your opposition wassat !!!

        They won't build anything anymore .. They've cleaned everything up and fed them a little, so that they would be angrier. But Ukraine was the second Army in Europe, after Russia, in terms of armament and numbers. When did the disintegration begin! But ..

        Well, here's another ... With tears in my eyes, Kharkov Tank Plant (T-34 was created there) ..

        Everything has been destroyed, and the shipyard there generally gets a heart attack if I look at the photo of the entire collapse .. angry
    4. Lara Croft
      Lara Croft 23 May 2021 11: 58
      -6
      Quote: xorek
      Well, clean up if only ..

      At the moment, the British are preparing for the construction of a large RCA with 8 anti-ship missile launchers on each for the Navy ... in total, 2 and 6 remaining in Ukraine will be built at the UK shipyards ...
      8 large RCA with a total of 64 PU anti-ship missiles, I think this is small, but the force, the Russian RCA in the KChF are not equal to them, in the war 08.08.08, for example, the Russian Federation won a "sea battle" with the RCA of the Georgian Navy with the help of the SAM (? ) installed on our RCA ....

      Of the 7 RCA that are part of the KChF, 6 are Soviet-built and one entered service in 2000.
      Replacement (modernization, as in the KBF) RCA existing as part of the RCF with new RCA is not provided ...

      I apologize to the hurray-patriots (for whom the authors write such articles) for spoiling the mass, but VO is supposed to be a specialized site on which there should be pragmatism ... and objective data ...
      1. xorek
        xorek 23 May 2021 12: 47
        0
        Quote: Lara Croft
        I apologize to the hurray-patriots (for whom the authors write such articles) for spoiling the mass, but VO is supposed to be a specialized site on which there should be pragmatism ... and objective data ...

        Write a complaint ... laughing
        We will discuss ..
      2. Sergey_G_M
        Sergey_G_M 23 May 2021 12: 52
        0
        When comparing military forces at sea, it is also necessary to take into account aviation, with which the Ukrainians are sad and complete control of the sky over the Black Sea by the Russian Federation is more than obvious. British-Ukrainian RCA with their weak air defense will simply be erased at sea or sit in ports.
        1. Lara Croft
          Lara Croft 23 May 2021 13: 32
          -1
          Quote: Sergey_G_M
          British-Ukrainian RCA with their weak air defense will simply be erased at sea or sit in ports.

          In international waters?
          The Naval Forces of Ukraine begins to build the "Brown Water Fleet", they have no choice how to ensure control over their coastal waters.
          All Soviet-built Navy ships do not meet the requirements of modern combat and will be decommissioned in the near future ...
          In the future, Ukraine will have to acquire SPKRK, helicopters and aircraft that perform patrol and search and rescue functions ... the existing units and units of the Naval Forces of the Naval Forces of Ukraine are redundant and they need to be reduced, at the moment they perform the function of motorized infantry or light infantry ...
          From periodicals it is clear that the Ukrainian authorities are working on the issue of purchasing corvettes from Turkey or other countries, primarily NATO ...
          1. YOU
            YOU 23 May 2021 14: 21
            -1
            And you have forgotten about the existing small missile ships, as well as those under construction for the Black Sea Fleet MRK. And about the possibility of modernizing Molniya boats with the installation of up to 16 X-35 anti-ship missiles. And besides that, they can get something from England. But remembering how they built their boats "Gyurza", when and if they will build, what is the big question for themselves ???? hi
            1. Lara Croft
              Lara Croft 23 May 2021 14: 49
              0
              Quote: YOU
              And you have forgotten about the existing small missile ships, as well as those under construction for the Black Sea Fleet MRK.

              Not at all. But then we position ourselves as the "Green Waters Fleet", we are still far from the ocean fleet ...
              And about the possibility of modernizing Molniya boats with the installation of up to 16 X-35 anti-ship missiles.

              Not 16 anti-ship missiles X-35....,but
              In view of the above, it is easy to assume that the replacement of 4 "Mosquitoes" anti-ship missiles "Uran-U" (even in the amount of 16 units., not to mention 8) - a losing decision in the framework of the modernized project 12418. Even four new version of the Molniya-class missile boats will not be enough to destroy a single Arleigh Burke or Ticonderoga.
              In accordance with the information published on the network, the Black Sea Fleet today has 4 missile boats of pr. 12411 Molniya with Kh-41 missiles, and it would be quite logical to equip two completing RK Molniya with two quad launch modules of supersonic anti-ship missiles 3M55 Onyx "; a similar configuration (but with 2 x 6 inclined-type launchers) was installed on the prototype small rocket ship, project 1234.7 Nakat, for full-scale tests of P-800 (3M55) missiles. Unfortunately, project 12418 provides for a completely different configuration of the anti-ship complex with the advertised and ineffective "harpoon" missiles Kh-35U.

              https://topwar.ru/144548-bez-moskitov-i-oniksov-pridetsya-nesladko-teatr-absurda-v-modernizacii-luchshih-raketnyh-katerov.html
              If you have information on the modernization of the RCA KCHF, share ...
              And besides that, they can get something from England.

              The British give Ukraine a loan for the construction of the RCA, I agree that it is not a fact that the RCA, which should be built in Ukraine, will not be built, but the money will be spent on drink ...
              The main thing is that Ukraine will gain competence and technology in the construction of large spacecraft of the British project and the spacecraft of the French project ...
              Neither Bulgaria, nor Romania, nor the Baltic countries and Poland received such preferences from the leading NATO countries, they were transferred to used ships and boats of the withdrawn from service NATO countries ...

              However, I'm only for it if, in your opinion, as a result, the Russian Federation will not suffer in any way from the renewal of the Ukrainian Navy ...
          2. wow
            wow 23 May 2021 14: 26
            -1
            "... are working on the procurement issue ...". The purchase presupposes the presence of denyuzhek, which there is nowhere to take and from no one. Or again, fairy tales from O.I. Bendera: "... brace yourself, foreign countries will help you!"
            1. Lara Croft
              Lara Croft 23 May 2021 14: 52
              +1
              Quote: yo-mine
              "... are working on the procurement issue ...". The purchase presupposes the presence of denyuzhek, which there is nowhere to take and from no one. Or again, fairy tales from O.I. Bendera: "... brace yourself, foreign countries will help you!"

              RCA and PKA will be and under construction, the British and French are carried out on credit ...
              1. YOU
                YOU 23 May 2021 15: 20
                0
                Yes, in general, you are right, any combat unit in the camp of a possible enemy is not good. But I think that the question is more likely to be found in the area, political and economic. Give another loan, and then demand a refund, up to declaring Ukraine bankrupt, and up to the introduction of third-party management. Ukraine already has a lot of loans, the next one will allow komtsto to present their rights to a piece of the pie, when dividing. And even 8 boats, without appropriate air cover, or more, will not do much of the weather.
                1. Lara Croft
                  Lara Croft 23 May 2021 15: 41
                  +1
                  Quote: YOU
                  Give another loan, and then demand a refund, up to declaring Ukraine bankrupt, and up to the introduction of third-party management. Ukraine already has a lot of loans, the next one will allow the company to present its rights to a piece of the pie, when dividing it.

                  It's clear. But the empiricalists have little choice, either to place their WBs in Ukraine (which is fraught) or to issue loans to the "Sumerians" to load their own boatyards ...
                  Sooner or later it will reach the military aviation, they will transfer used combat aircraft to the military lease of the AFU, they will kill several "birds with one stone" at once - they will receive money from the aircraft being removed from service, tie the AFU to spare parts for it and related services (simulators, training base, training of pilots, modernization of airfields, etc.) and, most importantly, they will save themselves loved ones from deploying their flight units in Ukraine ...
                  8 boats, without appropriate air cover, or more, will not make special weather.

                  They won't. But you have to start from somewhere to build your own Navy, the ship composition inherited from the Union should not be taken into account, they have worked out their work and now they are only hanging ballast on the balance of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine ...
                  With aviation equipment for the Ukrainian Navy, of course, everything is more complicated, I think the United States and Great Britain will transfer used helicopters from storage to the Navy - Lynx, Iroquois, Sea King, Ukraine itself will probably be able to launch the production of basic patrol and anti-submarine aircraft at the enterprise. " Antonov "....
                  And for the first time, UAVs will be used to patrol their maritime borders ... the release of which Ukraine can calmly establish under the leadership of the Anglo-Saxons and Israeli Jews, of course ...
                  1. Maikcg
                    Maikcg 23 May 2021 17: 02
                    -1
                    will transfer used combat aircraft to military leasing to the Armed Forces of Ukraine

                    ... nuclear-powered aircraft carriers and SSBNs with Tridents, that's when we'll screw it up (c)
                    1. Lara Croft
                      Lara Croft 23 May 2021 17: 04
                      +1
                      Quote: MaikCG
                      SSBN with Tridents

                      What it is?
                      The British have only Trident-2 SSBNs
                      1. Maikcg
                        Maikcg 23 May 2021 21: 25
                        0
                        In fact, this designation is the same. Both SSBN (Strategic Missile Submarine Cruiser) and SSBN (Nuclear Submarine with Ballistic Missiles) correspond to the foreign class SSBN (Ship Submarine Ballistic Nuclear)
                  2. Stepan S
                    Stepan S 23 May 2021 23: 09
                    +1
                    Oh, dreams, dreams .. How similar it is to the Ukrainians. So they have lived with dreams for thirty years.
      3. Maikcg
        Maikcg 23 May 2021 16: 55
        +1
        and 6 remaining in Ukraine ...

        Zrada (not on, but in! 111) and peremoga (6 in Ukraine), which will instantly turn into zrada (0 in Ukraine), according to the applied theory of health problems, even before the start of construction.
      4. Stepan S
        Stepan S 23 May 2021 23: 07
        0
        You know, you can talk, cook and write anything, especially if it is about Ukraine's plans. The facts are that nothing is being built yet, and there is not even a contract. And in what form it will see the light, we'll see. We certainly do not sit and wait with folded hands.
    5. Maikcg
      Maikcg 23 May 2021 16: 46
      +1
      Along the Danube to Austria.
    6. Anachoret
      Anachoret 24 May 2021 11: 10
      -1
      mosquito fleet, cockroach cavalry, mosquito aviation and lousy landing) "slaughter" concept of Ukrainian defense))
  2. Boris55
    Boris55 23 May 2021 09: 29
    +4
    They should remember about the Japanese kamikaze and how it all ended. Flies pancake waterfowl ...
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 23 May 2021 10: 33
      +1
      Quote: Boris55
      They should remember about the Japanese kamikaze and how it all ended.

      Maybe donate a hara-kiri knife to them?
  3. Evil troll
    Evil troll 23 May 2021 09: 29
    +1
    What pessimism and self-disbelief smile
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 23 May 2021 09: 35
      +4
      Quote: Angry Troll
      What pessimism and self-disbelief

      And ignorance of the situation! Is he sure that only the territories he mentioned are "under threat"? Yes, there is still half of Ukraine will rush towards the Russian fleet! And he's rightly afraid. Mosquito fleet? So what if the Russian ships will be covered with a repellent? And that's it! The mosquitoes are dead!
      1. xorek
        xorek 23 May 2021 09: 46
        0
        Quote: Egoza
        And ignorance of the situation! Is he sure that only the territories he mentioned are "under threat"? Yes, there is still half of the Ukraine will rush towards the Russian fleet!

        For some reason, I am sure of this, if only Russia rushes or the Donbass militias will move forward with the support ..
        1. Clear
          Clear 23 May 2021 09: 59
          +4
          Quote: xorek
          Quote: Egoza
          And ignorance of the situation! Is he sure that only the territories he mentioned are "under threat"? Yes, there is still half of the Ukraine will rush towards the Russian fleet!

          For some reason, I am sure of this, if only Russia rushes or the Donbass militias will move forward with the support ..

          If so, then good. But you shouldn't count on it.
          There is already a different generation, however, as well as in Donbass - nothing to do with the current u-Krysin policy.
          1. xorek
            xorek 23 May 2021 10: 23
            -1
            Quote: Clear
            If so, then good. But you shouldn't count on it.
            There is already a different generation, however, as well as in Donbass - nothing to do with the current u-Krysin policy.

            We will sort it out for more than a decade .. The main thing is that everything was written, who said what when, shot, stole.
            There is more than one generation lost there .. However, just like here in Russia.
            There is a lot of work, the main thing is that there is no freebie, as we love to distribute the power .. Everything must be hard and facts to press and crush .. How Jews press and milk Germany.
            1. Clear
              Clear 23 May 2021 10: 30
              +4
              Quote: xorek
              ..How Jews crush and milk Germany.

              Yesterday, in Germany, a Jew was already beaten because of the situation with Palestine. The chaos began.
              1. xorek
                xorek 23 May 2021 11: 18
                +2
                Quote: Clear
                Quote: xorek
                ..How Jews crush and milk Germany.

                Yesterday, in Germany, a Jew was already beaten because of the situation with Palestine. The chaos began.

                Arabs probably ..)))) laughing
                The Germans are intimidated there .. hi
                1. Terenin
                  Terenin 23 May 2021 15: 14
                  +4
                  Quote: xorek
                  Quote: Clear
                  Quote: xorek
                  ..How Jews crush and milk Germany.

                  Yesterday, in Germany, a Jew was already beaten because of the situation with Palestine. The chaos began.

                  Arabs probably ..)))) laughing
                  The Germans are intimidated there .. hi

                  It's harder there. Information came in that it was the German right-wing radicals who beat the Jew.
                  1. Clear
                    Clear 23 May 2021 15: 22
                    +4
                    Quote: Terenin
                    Quote: xorek
                    Quote: Clear
                    Quote: xorek
                    ..How Jews crush and milk Germany.

                    Yesterday, in Germany, a Jew was already beaten because of the situation with Palestine. The chaos began.

                    Arabs probably ..)))) laughing
                    The Germans are intimidated there .. hi

                    It's harder there. Information came in that it was the German right-wing radicals who beat the Jew.


                    It is noted that this is not the only case of aggression towards Jews in the German capital.
                    Earlier on Friday afternoon, a 26-year-old girl filmed a group of young men shouting anti-Semitic slogans on Helmholtzplatz square in the Prenzlauer Berg area on her mobile phone.

                    hi Hey.
  4. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 23 May 2021 09: 34
    -1
    Yes, these experts are not captains, but ADMIRALS OBVIOUSNESS !!!
    1. Peak
      Peak 23 May 2021 09: 37
      +3
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      Yes, these experts are not captains, but ADMIRALS OBVIOUSNESS !!!

      So what to do ? request
      After all, wherever you spit, you will find yourself in the admiral of the Naval Forces of Ukraine, of which they have more than all the available floating facilities, including lifebuoys, vests and rafts lol
  5. Popandos
    Popandos 23 May 2021 09: 35
    +2
    “The mosquito fleet is unlikely to help

    I would say that any fleet is unlikely to help,
    BUT then the sense in the existence of all these ex and acting admirals and so on disappears.
  6. Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
    +5
    ***

    MARINE BATTLE UNDER THE BRIDGE

    (November 2018)

    ---

    Twenty Pairs of Lace Briefs

    And one battle toilet

    Lost in an unequal battle

    Ukrainian maritime special forces ...

    ©

    ***
  7. Revolver
    Revolver 23 May 2021 10: 36
    +3
    According to the ex-chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the country may turn out to be "land-based", losing access to both the Azov and Black Seas.
    Come on, they'll dig a new sea for themselves, not the first time.lol
  8. rocket757
    rocket757 23 May 2021 11: 02
    +1
    In Ukraine: "The Mosquito Fleet is unlikely to help if the Ukrainian Navy finds itself face to face with the Russian Navy"
    ... Dumki think ...
    There are two options, either the vodka / bamboo is over, or vice versa, the abundance has come.
  9. Salavatsky Ministry of Emergency Situations
    +1
    Do not understand. What's that in the first photo? Are you shooting from the scope?
    1. YOU
      YOU 23 May 2021 11: 23
      +1
      This is a sighting column, in the background of the AK-630, in manual control mode, where the sighting column aims, there are the barrels of the guns.
      1. Petrol cutter
        Petrol cutter 23 May 2021 20: 13
        +1
        I confirm. The machine works like this.
        In manual mode.
  10. Lara Croft
    Lara Croft 23 May 2021 11: 22
    0
    Not so long ago, an idea arose in Ukraine to convert the Korets tug into a patrol ship.

    On this issue, the Naval Forces should seek advice from Eun, he has a lot of practice in this matter, and on many ships of the DPRK merchant fleet, places are reserved for installing weapons ...
    1. isv000
      isv000 23 May 2021 13: 32
      0
      In the Union, every civilian ship had a dual purpose, a trawler / stern ship was a minelayer, for example, etc.
  11. isv000
    isv000 23 May 2021 13: 30
    +1
    Give them repellents - let them chase the mosquitoes ...
  12. aszzz888
    aszzz888 23 May 2021 13: 34
    +2
    Not so long ago, an idea arose in Ukraine to convert the Korets tug into a patrol ship.
    And the floating crane did not try to "convert" into which aircraft carrier? laughing
  13. isv000
    isv000 23 May 2021 14: 23
    0
    Keywords: mosquito fleet is unlikely to help ...
  14. Oleg Aviator
    Oleg Aviator 23 May 2021 14: 47
    0
    Even though mosquito is not mosquito all early will not help. It's not a fact for a short period. This sacred sacrifice is a bargaining chip. And I think everyone understands this. But bureaucrats expect to pull off with their kubl in which case, but they do not care about the people. The 14th division also seemed to be going to fight for a long time. And they were rolled out in two days. Likewise, on December 6, Grushevsky suitcases packaged to dump and the rams died. Then the red army was. They did not stand on ceremony and did not persuade them either. As a result, one wounded from their side and the complete destruction of the children.
  15. NF68
    NF68 23 May 2021 15: 58
    +1
    Install toilets and combat efficiency will immediately rise to the skies.
  16. Maikcg
    Maikcg 23 May 2021 16: 44
    +2
    The second way is "the active development of the country's naval forces."

    And how will this help with repelling the Tatar-Mongol horde by land and air strikes? O_o: D

    At the same time, it is noted that "the mosquito fleet is unlikely to help if the Ukrainian Navy finds itself face to face with the Russian Navy"

    In the seventh year, the Sharp-Eye Indian noticed ...
  17. Azimuth
    Azimuth 23 May 2021 23: 04
    0
    Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
    "In Ukraine, it is believed that the country's loss of access to the Black and Azov Seas can be avoided" in only two ways. "The number one method is the entry of Ukraine into the North Atlantic military bloc (NATO). The second way is" the active development of the country's naval forces. " At the same time, it is noted that "the mosquito fleet is unlikely to help if the Ukrainian Navy finds itself face to face with the Russian Navy."

    It's funny (and tragic for the current European integrators and Bandera), but both ways difficult to implement.
    As for the "mosquitoes", this is ukrokamikaze. However, the same as the others.

    Not that they are difficult to implement, they are simply impossible, there are no real prerequisites for the first and resources for the second.
    Plus, if we really and really, and not in the minds of uryakalok, we begin to resolve the issue of New Russia, then we are talking about days or months.
  18. Tycoon
    Tycoon 24 May 2021 18: 40
    0
    Of course it will not help, everyone in Ukraine understands this ... and no one is going to throw the mosquito fleet against the Russian fleet ...