"No help from Kabul": Taliban continue systematic seizure of Afghan provinces

While the United States and the Western coalition countries are withdrawing their military contingent from Afghanistan, the Taliban (the Taliban * movement is prohibited in Russia) continue to systematically seize provinces, squeezing government troops closer to Kabul.

According to the latest figures published by Ariana News, citing authorities, the Taliban have already taken over the second province in less than two weeks. The day before, the Davlat Shah region in the Laghman province was captured, followed by the militants stormed the Jalrez district of the Wardak province, and the governor's residence and police headquarters were seized.

The Afghan Ministry of Defense confirms both facts, but explains that in the case of Laghman province, the retreat was a tactical move, and during the attack the Taliban suffered heavy losses. But with the province of Wardak, everything is different, there were fierce battles that lasted three days. At present, air strikes are being carried out on the positions of the Taliban, 10 militants have been reported killed.

In turn, the provincial authorities report seven dead Afghan security forces, several missing and forty surrendered to the Taliban. In addition to territory and prisoners, the Taliban got military equipment, weapon and ammunition. At the same time, the provincial authorities accuse the central government of refusing to conduct hostilities against the Taliban. According to the deputy of the provincial council Mahdi Rasikh, there is no help from Kabul.

The Taliban movement confirms the capture of a province located just 62 kilometers southwest of Kabul.

Earlier, military experts predicted with a high degree of confidence the complete transfer of power in Afghanistan into the hands of the Taliban after the Americans left the country. According to forecasts, after the withdrawal of the Western coalition, Afghanistan will face a big war, during which the government army, despite the funds invested in it and the supplied equipment, will lose to the Taliban.

Comments

[Vladimir61]

"There is no help from Kabul"

Do the provinces really want this help? There is the ideology of the Taliban and the historical foundations of faith and culture, in the head of every Muslim.

[kenig1]

Pandsher will fight the Taliban to the end.

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Vladimir61

Do the provinces really want this help?

The Taliban will take over Afghanistan quickly. That, on the basis of this, will emerge near Russia is obviously nothing good. Tajikistan is frankly weak against them.

[oleg-gr]

The second coming of the Taliban. Puppets in Kabul prepare for "evacuation". Following the owners.

[businessv]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

That, on the basis of this, will arise near Russia is obviously nothing good.

What will arise will be. From the time of the war with the Union and until now, there have been two forces in Afghanistan, paid for and hired by different interested parties, if they get rid of them and allow this unfortunate, forever belligerent country to develop, maybe at least something will turn out. Maybe Iran will help and then it will be another Islamic country more.

[RUSS]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

The Taliban will take over Afghanistan quickly. What will emerge on the basis of this near Russia is obviously nothing good.

So we need to help the brotherly Afghan people as we are helping the Syrians now, right?

[And Us Rat]

Humanity is stupid, does not learn from Istria.
Britain sent troops to Afghanistan twice (1838 and 1880) and left both times after a couple of years of senseless war.
He was the second who decided to step on the rake of the USSR and lasted 10 years.
Now the Yankees have received a handle on the forehead, stretching out a record 20 years.
Who is next? PRC? For half a century?

Although ... the Chinese do not care about losses, as well as international opinion.
They can really beat the Taliban with their own method - exhausting them for centuries, if necessary.

[private person]

He was the second who decided to step on the rake of the USSR and lasted 10 years.

Well, the Russian Federation has taken upon itself all the debts of the former Union here and cards in hand, let's go back to the same rake. And the Americans just need this. Well, let's hope that this does not happen and the foot of the Russian soldier will no longer set foot on the land of Afghanistan.

[Lech from Android.]

It was not possible for American democracy to be approved in the country on the bayonets of foreign soldiers ... another bummer.
Culture is incompatible with Western civilization ... and nothing can be done about it.

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: Lech from Android.

It did not work to establish American democracy on the bayonets of foreign soldiers in the country ...

As it did not work with socialism.

Quote: Lech from Android.

another bummer ... and nothing can be done about it.

Apparently, yes.

[mitroha]

Quote: Vasyan1971

How it didn't work out with socialism

With socialism it would have worked if it had not been for the opposition of the United States and China. Another thing is that the USSR also had a bunch of internal problems by that time.

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: Mitroha

With socialism it would work,

"Would" does not count.

Quote: Mitroha

do not be opposition from the United States and China

Today, by the way, the United States is helping Kabul. Who helps the present "spirits"? Especially in such a way and on such a scale as the West helped against the USSR?

[mitroha]

Quote: Vasyan1971

Would "not be considered

It is considered. The USSR did more for Afghanistan than Afghanistan itself did for itself. And if there were no opposition from the United States and China, I think the Afghans would have completely accepted socialism, which built schools and hospitals for them, taught and treated their children and the elderly.
But you are absolutely right that history has no subjunctive mood.

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: Mitroha

It is believed

No. What would happen if ... Vanity of vanities and languor of spirit ...

[Klingon]

By the way, China is now also worried that the Taliban would not begin to influence their Uighurism. So now it's their turn ... there are a lot of them, so let them bring Chinese communism to Afghanistan

[RUSS]

Quote: Lech from Android.

It was not possible for American democracy to be approved in the country on the bayonets of foreign soldiers ... another bummer.

Like socialism

[Gennady Fomkin]

The Taliban are smoothly replacing "Western democracy" with their mentally close understanding of democracy

[ankir13]

Gennady Fomkin subtly !. Plus from the heart!

[knn54]

According to a high-ranking security officer in Aganistan, the Taliban and their Pakistani operators forcibly use civilian Afghan citizens, women and children, as human shields, which they use to protect their warehouses with weapons and ammunition, underground prisons, and places of manufacture of IEDs for suicide bombers. The militants have been using this tactic of "live air defense" for several years not only in the province of Khost, but also in other regions of the country. For example, I personally encountered a similar phenomenon in the provinces of Nimroz, Helmand and Kandahar, and my colleagues - in the eastern provinces. Thus, terrorists solve two problems at once - they prevent our air force from attacking objects of terrorist infrastructure important for the Taliban, and in the event of air strikes, which, unfortunately, entail inevitable civilian casualties, the militants incite a propaganda campaign against the government. Afghanistan and our security forces.
By the way, the same thing is happening in Syria.
A terrorist remains a terrorist, no matter how he calls himself and wherever he is!

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: knn54

According to a high-ranking security officer in Aganistan, the Taliban and their Pakistani operators forcibly use civilian Afghan citizens, women and children, as human shields, which they use to protect their warehouses with weapons and ammunition, underground prisons, and places of manufacture of IEDs for suicide bombers. The militants have been using this tactic of "live air defense" for several years not only in the province of Khost, but also in other regions of the country. For example, I personally encountered a similar phenomenon in the provinces of Nimroz, Helmand and Kandahar, and my colleagues - in the eastern provinces. Thus, terrorists solve two problems at once - they prevent our air force from attacking objects of terrorist infrastructure important for the Taliban, and in the event of air strikes, which, unfortunately, entail inevitable civilian casualties, the militants incite a propaganda campaign against the government. Afghanistan and our security forces.
By the way, the same thing is happening in Syria.
A terrorist remains a terrorist, no matter how he calls himself and wherever he is!

Both Hamas and Islamic Jihad are acting one to one. All Islam-Nazi movements have common tactics.

[vlad.baryatinsky]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

All Islam-Nazi movements have common tactics.

You offend the senses, 1,8 mln., Of the Population.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: vlad.baryatinsky

Quote: Aron Zaavi

All Islam-Nazi movements have common tactics.

You offend the senses, 1,8 mln., Of the Population.

Yes? And I have read more than once that the Islam and Nazis killed more Muslims than anyone else.

[vlad.baryatinsky]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

Yes? And I have read it more than once,

You can read anything and about anyone.

Quote: Aron Zaavi

Islamic Nazis killed more Muslims than anyone else.

I just tried to convey to you that you, willingly or not, offend the religious feelings of people.

[Rasul Aliyev]

What 1.8 billion has to do with Islamists

[akarfoxhound]

Are the Taliban winning? Who would have thought it was a surprise. 20 years of drug cultivation and all in the name of democracy

[Blackmokona]

This is how the Taliban were raised

[seregin-s1]

After coming to power, the Taliban stopped growing drugs. And the Americans with the new authorities started everything anew.

[Asad]

What kind of "Shishi" would the Taliban exist without drugs?

[Blackmokona]

No, this is a blatant lie, just find a graph of drug cultivation in Afghanistan and you will see that the Taliban had a production drawdown only in the year of the US invasion. Well, here it is understandably difficult to export until the old supply channels are destroyed, and the new ones have not been established. But then they brought whoever needed it and went on to twist twirl
PS
Found, add. The Taliban came to power in 1996. In 2001, the US invaded Afghan.

[Vasyan1971]

After the withdrawal of the Western coalition, Afghanistan will face a big war, during which the government army, despite the funds invested in it and the supplied equipment, will lose to the Taliban.

Here, it’s strange, however: people on both sides are the same, but it’s - you see, how ... What is under the USSR, what is under the United States.

[Murmur 55]

The GOVERNMENT troops did not learn how to fight, either under the USSR or after the USA.

[Asad]

Another, hemorrhoids, near our border.

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Murmur 55

The GOVERNMENT troops never learned how to fight

"Sarvaz", what to take from them ... when the USSR Armed Forces were "beyond the river" from the side of the DRA, special forces units of the local State Security Service, equipped with "blood-fighters", fought, they had motivation ...

[faterdom]

But it seems to me that the Americans intended it like this.
Or they must control the territory, or the barmaley, which are also indirectly the fruits of the US intelligence services.
And we and the Chinese also help the "official" pro-American Kabul somehow ... in the name of what?
So - everything is according to the scenario: the Americans leave, freeing the site for the Taliban, they seize weapons, resources and provinces, merge with ISIS and climb to expand their influence in Central Asia and the Caspian Sea, for example, in Turkmenistan, launching metastases in the Xinjiang Uygur region of the PRC. The Pentagon and the CIA are demanding money from Congress "to fight terrorism."
What should we do? Expand Tajikistan at the expense of Panjshir, mobilizing and arming local Tajiks, Uzbeks and Hazaras. And let Pakistan deal with the Pashtuns and the "tribal zone" with the help of China.

[Pandiurin]

Quote: faterdom

So - everything is according to the scenario: the Americans leave, freeing the site for the Taliban, they seize weapons, resources and provinces, merge with ISIS and climb to expand their influence in ...

The fact that both the Taliban and the ISIS will unite is unlikely, they will not get along on the same territory in Afghanistan. Some of the isis, a few, can mimic and accept the Taliban ideology. But so for the ISIS, there are two options either for compost or for the exit from Afgan.

For the Taliban, the second option is clearly preferable, peacefully, without a clash or with a small showdown to squeeze the igils to the neighbors.

It is not known what plans the CIA and the Pentagon had when the bearded men were imported, but rather simply as a resource that could be used against neighboring countries. If they had stayed in Afghanistan for a long time, they could have used it for delivery for many years and at the same time increase the number at the expense of the locals. Wait they will be squeezed out quickly, but the Americans are still in Afghanistan, so I will partly control this process, who will go where, provide money, documents, weapons and contacts in the target and transit countries.

So yes, in Central Asia and our southern republics, and even here in the south of Russia, the time is coming when there will be skirmishes on the border and all sorts of "anti-terror" will be declared more often.

From everyday examples, it’s like throwing cockroaches of various sizes into an old kitchen chest of drawers with dichlorvos and in all directions. Sneakers alone will not wave off.

[TermNachTer]

The present rotten government will last even less than Najibullah

[Andrey Krasnoyarsky]

Because this is not power, but an imitation of power that can exist only under the protection of American bayonets.

[mitroha]

Quote: Andrey Krasnoyarsky

able to exist only under the protection of American bayonets.

Recently, these same bayonets only defend themselves and could, sitting in the bases.

[TermNachTer]

Yes, and sitting on the bases, too, apparently there was an agreement: "We do not touch you, you do not touch us")))

[Stanislav82]

As I understand it, the last time there was order was when the 40th Army was there.

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Stanislav82

As I understand it, the last time there was order was when the 40th Army was there.

There was not only the SA, but also the KGB PV and "vovany" ....

[RUSS]

Quote: Stanislav82

As I understand it, the last time there was order was when the 40th Army was there.

Order in Afghanistan existed when throughout its history it was part of the Persian Empire, the Empire of Alexander the Great, the Seleucids, Bactria, Great Scythia, Parthia, Kushan, Sassanids, Samanids, Ghaznavids, Khorezm, Mongols, Iran, and only from the middle of the XVIII century ... received some kind of autonomy. In the XNUMXth century, half a century of the country was under the rule of the British. In the twentieth century, half a century was dominated by warlords, Islamist leaders from different countries. As, in fact, now. The central government - the shahs, and then the socialist chairmen and presidents - ruled and govern only in the capital and around it.

[stalkerwalker]

Earlier, military experts predicted with a high degree of confidence the complete transfer of power in Afghanistan into the hands of the Taliban after the Americans left the country...
And someone thought it would be different?
Today there is no other force on the territory of Afghanistan that could retain power in most of the country. Not...
The Taliban, in the form of their leadership, will also transform their views on relations with their surrounding countries over time. This is inevitable.
Another thing is who will be the financial donor of the policy that they are pursuing now and intend to carry it out by the time control over the country is established. The history of the transformation of the countries of the former "Golden Triangle" is an example of this. More enemies than friends can be made by trading opium poppy derivatives.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: stalkerwalker

Another thing is who will be the financial donor of the policy that they are pursuing now and intend to carry it out by the time control over the country is established.

Good question.
Pakistan and Iran will definitely provide support. The question, however, is where the Taliban will direct their irrepressible energy in the future?

[stalkerwalker]

Quote: Nyrobsky

Pakistan and Iran will definitely provide support. The question, however, is where the Taliban will direct their irrepressible energy in the future?

It will not do without China. They have a lot of money. And no problems with the Uighurs will affect the technical and financial assistance from China. Taking into account the interests of the latter. It is possible to build roads, infrastructure and establish communications without looking back at Xinjiang.
The Taliban are almost forty years old. They have enough fanatics. But they have long established informal ties with many countries of Central Asia.
And, if you rebrand the movement, transform it into a party, then everything will fall into place.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: stalkerwalker

It will not do without China. They have a lot of money. And no problems with the Uighurs will affect the technical and financial assistance from China. Taking into account the interests of the latter. It is possible to build roads, infrastructure and establish communications without looking back at Xinjiang.
The Taliban are almost forty years old. They have enough fanatics.

China at this stage will not fit in until the power is finally in someone's hands, and then yes, Beijing will certainly enter there with its investments. In the meantime, Tehran, Islamabad and Doha are likely to be among the alleged financiers.

Quote: stalkerwalker

And, if you rebrand the movement, transform it into a party, then everything will fall into place.

Most likely, it will be so, because there simply will not be another political force with which it will be possible to negotiate and build interstate relations.

[RUSS]

Quote: Nyrobsky

Pakistan and Iran will definitely have

What is the interest of Shiite Iran in Sunni Afghanistan?

[cniza]

According to forecasts, after the withdrawal of the Western coalition, Afghanistan will face a big war, during which the government army, despite the funds invested in it and the supplied equipment, will lose to the Taliban.

All repeats...

[Evil 55]

Taliban vs Ameikanogeroino-8: 0 .. Stop destroying the nation by shaping traffic ..

[miru mir]

I advise everyone to books by Khaled Hosseini, an Afghan writer

[voyaka uh]

Read by Kite runner. The book is good.
The author lives in California. The intelligentsia, alas, emigrated from Afgan to
States or England. Who wants to be slaughtered by the Taliban?

[Metallurg_2]

There, in my opinion, to distinguish the Taliban from the soldiers of the regular army is practically a rotten number.
Today the subject is in one camp, tomorrow in another, the day after tomorrow again in the first.

[kill the fascist]

You can't buy an Afghan - you can only rent it ... for a while. So they said.

[bairat]

3 days of fierce fighting and 10 dead. They were shooting as usual, from behind cover, raising a machine gun high above their heads. And they died of dysentery, they ate unwashed fruits))

[isv000]

No extradition from Kabul or thirty years later ...

[musorg]

You won't come back anymore if you don't change your mind about leaving!

[iouris]

How Much Confidence Is Great?

[isv000]

As it was not twenty years ...

[kill the fascist]

After the withdrawal of Western forces, the Taliban seizure of most of the territory of Afghanistan is only a matter of time.

[yfast]

The Taliban, like the ants, do not have to pay. And provide too. They have to do something.