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In the Perm Territory, a student of a lyceum attacked a teacher with a knife

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In the Perm Territory, a student of a lyceum attacked a teacher with a knife

An attack on a teacher with a knife took place in the city of Berezniki, Perm Territory. According to local media reports, the teacher was taken to hospital in moderate severity.


According to reports, in Lyceum No. 1 in the city of Berezniki, a 16-year-old student attacked a physics teacher with a knife, inflicting multiple wounds on her neck and shoulder. At the moment, he was detained by officers of the Russian Guard, the victim was taken to the Bereznikov hospital in moderate severity. A medical helicopter was sent to the place to transport her to Perm to the regional clinical hospital.

The regional Ministry of Internal Affairs confirmed the fact of the attack, stating that in Lyceum No. 1, a student attacked the teacher using an object that looked like a knife. He was detained, an investigative-operational group is working on the spot, including PDN officers, all the circumstances of the incident are being established.

The Investigative Directorate for the Perm Territory gave an official comment:

On May 21, 2021, in the Lyceum of the city of Berezniki, Perm Territory, a 16-year-old student, using a knife, wounded a teacher of an educational institution. With the received wound, the victim was taken and hospitalized in a medical institution. On this fact (...) a criminal case was initiated under Part 3 of Art. 30 h. 1 tbsp. 105 of the Criminal Code (attempted murder)


According to preliminary information, the family of the attacker is not registered.
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  1. Dimy4
    Dimy4 21 May 2021 11: 08
    +11
    A bad example, publicized throughout the country, is contagious.
    1. 210ox
      210ox 21 May 2021 11: 26
      +2
      Rapier? Open no, an anime series where teenagers kill people. They say very popular. Ads come with bed linen and prints from similar TV shows.
      1. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter 21 May 2021 11: 36
        +3
        Quote: 210ox
        Rapier? Open no, an anime series where teenagers kill people

        This is probably still a different case. Physics was not given to him. Transferred my hatred of the subject to the teacher. And intemperance, hysteria and reckless behavior of adolescents has recently become the talk of the town ...
        1. Knell wardenheart
          Knell wardenheart 21 May 2021 11: 48
          +1
          А intemperance, hysteria and reckless behavior of adolescents has recently become the talk of the town

          The guy was "intemperate" he would hardly start to bother with such garbage)))
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 21 May 2021 12: 14
            -1
            Against the background of the optimization of school education in Russia according to Soros and the introduction of the school exam, there are so many loonies in the country - it's just horror!

            Previously, mentally unstable students themselves went to their deaths - namely, they put their heads on the rails in front of the train running into them, then they jumped out on their own
            right from the windows of the school from the top floor with suicide notes in their pockets accusing their teachers of their death - and now they don't bother and just kill their teachers!
            As they say, we survived!
            1. xorek
              xorek 21 May 2021 15: 29
              -3
              Quote: Tatiana
              Against the background of the optimization of school education in Russia according to Soros and the introduction of the school exam, there are so many loonies in the country - it's just horror!

              Everything is so Tatyana, we are preparing some kind of consumers who do not know how to think and reflect on their own, as they taught back in the Soviet school ..
              Quote: Tatiana
              Previously, mentally unstable students themselves went to their deaths - namely, they put their heads on the rails in front of the train running into them, then they jumped out on their own

              Well, not quite so Tatyana in the days of the USSR, there were special special schools .. If a student was with disabilities, he went straight to a special school, where they were given special care and attention .. And the hooligans, the two students were very afraid to find themselves there and tried to behave accordingly .. And now democracy itself does not learn and does not give to others, and even over the teachers they are banished ...
              1. Tatyana
                Tatyana 21 May 2021 16: 46
                +6
                I well remember how, under Gorbachev, when educational reforms began in the USSR in 1986 according to Soros, our Russian teachers, especially from Moscow, were the initiators-skirmishers in the forefront - one might say, they just SOLD with giblets to Soros for his grants! The quality of education began to decline sharply.

                At the same time, our teachers then turned, according to Soros, the education of children into an educational service, and the upbringing of schoolchildren was completely dropped from themselves exclusively to their parents.

                At the same time, correctional schools were closed all over the country due to the optimization of education in the country by economists - "market-oriented", and mentally ill children began to study inclusively together with healthy children.

                And now we have a natural - and not the only - result throughout the country!
                1. xorek
                  xorek 21 May 2021 17: 06
                  0
                  Quote: Tatiana
                  At the same time, correctional schools were closed all over the country due to the optimization of education in the country by economists - "market-oriented", and mentally ill children began to study inclusively together with healthy children.

                  And now we have a natural - and not the only - result throughout the country!

                  Clever Tatiana! You got the gist of all this liberal sabbath in education .. hi Here they are already shouting "about a poor young man who is a victim of a bloody regime" liberalism, and so on. ..And almost armored personnel carriers at every school put on duty ..
                  And EVERYTHING is much easier and cheaper, just return the correctional schools and psychiatric hospitals of the Union value as they were before .. And everything will calm down. I am sure of it! Otherwise, it is a wave of murders, etc. will go across the country .. That's the way it is! Write Tatyana I like reading you so much love
        2. Terenin
          Terenin 21 May 2021 12: 20
          +17
          Quote: Mountain Shooter
          Physics was not given to him. Transferred my hatred of the subject to the teacher.

          If you count how many subjects were not given to me, then it was necessary to disable half of the teachers? belay
        3. Anatoly 288
          Anatoly 288 21 May 2021 15: 18
          0
          It's time to introduce flogging with rods in schools for disobedience, otherwise we will lose from impunity not only a generation, but also a country.
          1. prior
            prior 21 May 2021 18: 04
            +1
            flogging with rods, ... in high school with sticks, in the army with gauntlets ...
            after the army to choose from - rack or count ... good
    2. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 21 May 2021 11: 35
      +1
      Are you talking about Shamsutdinov?
      For eight corpses he received 25 years ... went to his small homeland to improve his health ... as I see in the photo he gained weight from the punishment.
    3. Terenin
      Terenin 21 May 2021 11: 52
      +6
      Here is the statement, in particular by K. Zatulin, respected by me, "... why should we close ourselves from the Internet, as in China ...".
      I think - yes!
      Up to blocking children (adolescents).
      In China, only 140 thousand state operators follow the content of posts for these and other categories of users.
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 21 May 2021 12: 08
        +6
        As I saw the plot, a schoolboy engaged in boxing broke the teacher's jaw. I wonder how the National Guard will control the presence of fists? This is the first thing.
        Secondly, the bulk is a good target on him, you can blame everything. But maybe it's all about education.?
        And finally, in the Soviet Union there were pioneers studying in circles. Now AUE. Maybe it's time to tie up with Russia's liberalism?
        1. Terenin
          Terenin 21 May 2021 12: 13
          +10
          Quote: Gardamir
          Maybe it's time to tie up with Russia's liberalism?

          The word "may" and "?" unnecessary.
        2. bk316
          bk316 21 May 2021 12: 20
          +3
          Maybe it's time to tie up with Russia's liberalism?

          The question is not whether it's time or not - it's long time.
          The question is HOW?
          1. xorek
            xorek 21 May 2021 15: 35
            +2
            Quote: bk316
            Maybe it's time to tie up with Russia's liberalism?

            The question is not whether it's time or not - it's long time.
            The question is HOW?

            Well, for the beginning 10 to plant the most rabid chatterboxes, Russophobes .. Then wait until the screeching and screams subside .. Then one of those defenders, etc.
            This is already being done, amendments to the Criminal Code, etc. It's time to force respect for the state, otherwise they let go of their tongues and scratch them .. In the USA, so beloved by the Liberators, they would have been imprisoned for anti-state activities for a long time.
        3. Murmur 55
          Murmur 55 21 May 2021 14: 34
          +2
          How to tie? If Putin said that he was the main liberal? This education system has been under construction for 15 years already, and no one will be allowed to break it from the health care system.
        4. Vol4ara
          Vol4ara 21 May 2021 15: 45
          +2
          Quote: Gardamir
          As I saw the plot, a schoolboy engaged in boxing broke the teacher's jaw. I wonder how the National Guard will control the presence of fists? This is the first thing.
          Secondly, the bulk is a good target on him, you can blame everything. But maybe it's all about education.?
          And finally, in the Soviet Union there were pioneers studying in circles. Now AUE. Maybe it's time to tie up with Russia's liberalism?

          The problem is not liberalism, access to weapons, computer games. The fact that the government decided to complicate the method of obtaining firearms is pure madness. I wonder how they plan to do this? Now we will not receive weapons for a month, but for six months, that is, they believe that in half a year a person who has planned to kill someone will stop and change his mind, and in no case will think that it is possible to kill with the help of machines, knives, axes. Weapons are a tool, not a root cause, with this nonsense they make life difficult for honest hunters. I think the root cause is that nowadays fathers and mothers see their children asleep at night and in the morning on the way to the door, some to school, others to work. When that work was for 8 hours, and people finished their working day at 5, you could come home to check the lessons, do something together in your free time, even on a working day. And now, coming home at 10, you don't think about anything except how to bring your body to bed. And at school, a teenager is a king and a master, he can twist ropes from teachers, but they cannot say a word to him.
          The problem with Russian Columbines is that the school has been deprived of the right to education, and the parents have been taken away from parenting. And the problem is in the spectrum of values, when every schoolchild dreamed of being an astronaut, scientist, military man, now they dream of being a morgenstern
          1. Tank hard
            Tank hard 21 May 2021 17: 57
            +1
            The problem is in the citizens themselves. On Tuesday I went to the clinic for a certificate about the vaccinations I received and observed a depressing picture. A lot of people in the foyer are waiting in line at the reception, the guard is not visible from the word at all, an individual comes in all in tattoos, some tattoos show his negative orientation towards Christian symbolism, maybe a Satanist. maybe someone else. He has a case with him with a guitar, or maybe not with a guitar, but the case is closed. even shove a grenade launcher there. Probably a musician, probably ... No one cares about this, no one asked, why did he actually go to the clinic with such an object without checking, where are the guards? I approached the staff of the clinic with the question where the security is, and in response, do not interfere with work with your nonsense. Actually, that's all. Curtain. And this is literally a short time after the events in Kazan. Why be surprised at the number of murders. if no one cares? request
      2. aleksejkabanets
        aleksejkabanets 21 May 2021 12: 22
        +2
        Quote: Terenin
        Here is the statement, in particular by K. Zatulin, respected by me, "... why should we close ourselves from the Internet, as in China ...".
        I think - yes!

        And then what, are we going to burn the books? In Germany, one short mustachioed man has done this already. The finale is known. As far as I remember, according to the Constitution we have freedom of speech, freedom of assembly and freedom of religion. Tell me, how many of the constitutional freedoms do we really have left? So your idols offer to license any educational activity, even fitness classes fall under this. Do you think we should be happy about this?
      3. Hypertension
        Hypertension 21 May 2021 12: 46
        +4
        Quote: Terenin
        why should we close ourselves from the Internet, as in China ... ".
        I think - yes!

        Start with yourself, Terenin. Exit the Internet and go to the zombie box for a look. The first and second channels.
        And so, of course, a "very valuable" opinion from a person who:
        Quote: Terenin
        If you count how many subjects were not given to me, then it was necessary to disable half of the teachers?

        And these are probably in our government and sit. To whom half of the subjects were not given, to whom everything ...
        Quote: Terenin
        In China, only 140 thousand state operators monitor the content of posts

        Apparently we have few useless offices, like Roskomnadzor ... We need to organize another one.
    4. gurzuf
      gurzuf 21 May 2021 12: 08
      +2
      What an example! This is the triumph of the social system into which we plunged as a result of separatism in 1991.
  2. vkl.47
    vkl.47 21 May 2021 11: 10
    +2
    Generation mongerstein and bulk.
    1. BISMARCK94
      BISMARCK94 21 May 2021 11: 11
      -4
      Well, yes, Navalny campaigned to columbine everyone. Are you not a member of parliament? Who will now again say down with the game and the Internet with a passport?
      1. Shuttle
        Shuttle 21 May 2021 11: 22
        +3
        Quote: BISMARCK94
        Well, yes, Navalny campaigned to columbine everyone. Are you not a member of parliament? Who will now again say down with the game and the Internet with a passport?

        You twist. Navalny did not call for columbine. Navalny, he is like Carlson, urged the kids, disobeying the laws of adults, to just play pranks on the streets. Just like Carlson. That sneakers on wires, then ducks, then some other garbage. Even now he is like Carlson, he just flew away.

        Swedish adults, by the way, do not like very much because of this real Carlson created by Astrid Lindgren. Apparently because they are not familiar with his Soviet image created by the brilliant Boris Zakhoder.

        And the expression "the generation of Morgenstern and Navalny" quite accurately indicates the elderly millennials and modern zoomers. hi
        1. BISMARCK94
          BISMARCK94 21 May 2021 11: 26
          +1
          The answer is very detailed, thanks. But from my point of view, it looks like an attempt to find something in common between different groups. From the category "Hitler also drank water", etc.
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 21 May 2021 11: 32
            0
            Quote: BISMARCK94
            But from my point of view, it looks like an attempt to find something in common between different groups.

            I do not know anything about the groups, but with periodicity in the press and the media there are constantly statements about the attack in the schools of teenagers. Some kind of pandemic has gone.
            1. nobody75
              nobody75 21 May 2021 11: 56
              +9
              And it will only get worse! Even in the Soviet school, they tried to limit institutional education. Remember - the child was not at school for more than 5 hours, and 4 was considered the norm! Instead of school circles, palaces of pioneers, sports schools, music schools, etc. were built. Every Soviet teenager could get to and from school on his own! All of the above was important for the teenager's socialization - he understood that the world does not end at school !!! And now? The richer children are transported to and from school in armored cars, those who are poorer - on the school bus. And everything is like in America - with additional classes, children at school from 8-30 to 15 - 00 !!! And after that the USSR is called a totalitarian state ?! I am a small fan of the scoop, but with pedagogical psychology and didactics everything was fine there. The Soviet school did not promise anybody "social lifts", in contrast to the modern one. The knowledge assessment system was humane and less formalized than all this American hassle with the OGE - USE. As a result of the fact that our elites, like Nikonov, yearned for international recognition of educational documents, we today have a typically American education system with all its pluses and minuses.
              Sincerely
              1. tihonmarine
                tihonmarine 21 May 2021 12: 29
                +9
                Quote: nobody75
                I am a small fan of the scoop, but with pedagogical psychology and didactics everything was fine there.

                Better not to say "scoop". For us it was our life, and whatever it was, but it was ours, and I can’t say anything bad.
                1. nobody75
                  nobody75 21 May 2021 12: 57
                  +3
                  Sorry, I didn't mean to offend anyone. I write what I think. But it hurts ... Have you read the law on educational activities? The course on formalization and bureaucratization of the educational process is continued. The law on education will now be supplemented with the following definition: "educational activities are activities carried out outside the framework of educational programs aimed at disseminating knowledge ...". So any tutoring that mostly self-employed people do falls under this definition! Schools are experiencing a shortage of teaching staff, so a decision was made "at the top" to drive the tutors under the "school roof". How do you think it will end?
                  Sincerely
                  1. tihonmarine
                    tihonmarine 21 May 2021 13: 00
                    +4
                    Quote: nobody75
                    How do you think it will end?

                    Yes, nothing good will end, that's for sure.
                    And what kind of "tutoring", for example, in rural areas.
                    1. nobody75
                      nobody75 21 May 2021 13: 39
                      +3
                      You are absolutely right! Even in urban areas, tutors are teachers who have been driven out of school by "effective managers."
                      Interestingly, is there at least one school director in Russia who admits that he is not able to implement the program? That teachers are forced to engage in "enlightenment" classes?
                      Sincerely
              2. VTR-295
                VTR-295 21 May 2021 15: 21
                +3
                Quote: nobody75
                Remember - the child was not at school for more than 5 hours, and 4 was considered the norm!

                Five or six lessons of 45 minutes each plus breaks, counting the big one - more than 5 hours came out differently.
                1. nobody75
                  nobody75 21 May 2021 15: 59
                  0

                  Sincerely
                2. tihonmarine
                  tihonmarine 21 May 2021 16: 05
                  0
                  Quote: VTR-295
                  Five or six lessons of 45 minutes each plus breaks, counting more - more than 5 hours worked out differently

                  If you take 5 lessons with breaks, then 4 hours 15 minutes. if 6 lessons then 5 hours and 5 minutes. But 6 lessons were already after the 7th grade.
                  And do not forget that before they studied 6 days a week, so 6 lessons were not every day. Although the oaky and lazy were left after lessons, the teacher did not receive money for this.
                  1. nobody75
                    nobody75 21 May 2021 16: 31
                    0
                    Exactly!!! I remember many narrow-minded educators - innovators praised the American school for the lack of compulsory homework. The child, they say, left for school at 8 am and arrived from school at 16 pm - trained, fed and cheerful. It does not cause unnecessary problems for parents ...
                    Sincerely
                    1. tihonmarine
                      tihonmarine 21 May 2021 16: 42
                      +1
                      Quote: nobody75
                      The child, they say, left for school at 8 am and arrived from school at 16 pm - trained, fed and cheerful. Doesn't cause any problems for parents.

                      Homework is self-discipline, it gave the child a couple of hours to rest and relax, and then an hour and a half of doing homework on his own and consciously. This reinforced knowledge very much. Then an hour, two rests and lights out. The child does not get tired and had a normal rest. My whole family and relatives are half teachers, so I have tasted all the wisdom.
                      1. nobody75
                        nobody75 21 May 2021 16: 47
                        +1
                        Then you understand where we are going ... No Rossguard will be enough ... And if the guards are scattered around the schools, then Navalny, having inspired his cellmates, will easily capture the Kremlin!
                        Sincerely
                  2. sabakina
                    sabakina 21 May 2021 18: 23
                    0
                    Quote: tihonmarine

                    If you take 5 lessons with breaks, then 4 hours 15 minutes. if 6 lessons then 5 hours and 5 minutes. But 6 lessons were already after the 7th grade.
                    And do not forget that before they studied 6 days a week, so 6 lessons were not every day.

                    Vlad hi I do not know where you studied, but I, in the first shift, began to study at 8:15, finished at about 14:00, because the second shift started at 14:15 and we crossed with the second shift either at school or on the way. And yes, 6 lessons in middle school was the norm, not as you put it "after 7th grade."
                    1. tihonmarine
                      tihonmarine 21 May 2021 18: 35
                      +1
                      Quote: sabakina
                      I do not know where you studied, but I, on the first shift, began to study at 8:15, finished at about 14:00,

                      Well, I was lucky, we had only one shift, and even then because we lived in the village of Chernozyorsk at the Haranor railway station. We went 6 days a week for 5 lessons, the junior high school had 6 lessons, and the secondary school had 6 lessons every other day. Well, where is this Moscow, and where is that Chernozyorsk with Haranor.
                    2. nobody75
                      nobody75 21 May 2021 20: 16
                      0
                      I do not know where you studied, but I, in the first shift, started to study at 8:15, finished at about 14:00

                      At 8:30, the whole country began to study in the first shift. And at 13:30 maximum, the first shift ended. 5 hours is obtained.
                      Sincerely
        2. Stas157
          Stas157 21 May 2021 12: 08
          -2
          Quote: Shuttle
          Navalny, he's like Carlson, called the kids not obeying the laws of adults just playing pranks on the streets.

          Quote: Finches
          Navalny and his accomplices openly campaigned among children to violate the law, including attracting youngsters to their liberal sabbaths!

          I heard it a hundred times, but I never saw it. Have you at least brought some video to confirm your words. And then you look more like gossips who spread rumors. And why did they not punish Navalny for this, since it is criminal? Why blow bubbles into the air, let them judge him.

          And also tell me why gentlemen of the Putin are not so upset when young people are campaigning for rallies for Putin and United Russia? Are they special or something?
          1. aleksejkabanets
            aleksejkabanets 21 May 2021 12: 34
            +2
            hi
            Quote: Stas157
            And also tell me why gentlemen of the Putin are not so upset when young people are campaigning for rallies for Putin and United Russia? Are they special or something?

            Well, what are you, it's different! There is no coronavirus at the rallies held by Putin and "United Russia". Probably prayers and spirituality drive him away.)))))
        3. Terenin
          Terenin 21 May 2021 12: 29
          +1
          Quote: Shuttle
          And the expression "the generation of Morgenstern and Navalny" quite accurately indicates the elderly millennials and modern zoomers.

          These are people with weak immunity against Satanism, which comes to us from all cracks from the "civilized" west, like ghouls in the Viy movie.
      2. Finches
        Finches 21 May 2021 11: 25
        -1
        Navalny and his accomplices openly campaigned among children to violate the law, including attracting youngsters to their liberal sabbaths! Here is a broken psyche, a substitution of concepts, etc.! So vкl.47 is partly right!
        1. Lannan Shi
          Lannan Shi 21 May 2021 14: 31
          +2
          Quote: Finches
          Navalny and his accomplices openly campaigned among children to violate the law, including attracting youngsters to their liberal sabbaths!

          Well no. We need to look deeper. Starting from kindergarten age. Let's take, for example, a series of cartoons about buttermilk. That's where the complete chaos is. Advertising disobedience to parents - well, runaway from home. Advertising of deception and defamation of the authorities, in the person of Pechkin. Advertising of black archeology, concealment of treasure, criminality in general is purest. And this is just a cartoon. And if you still read a book ... There you can even dig up for the glorification of terrorism. There would be a desire. lol
          Quote: Finches
          Here is the broken psyche

          How to explain in a more accessible way ... Attempts to break the psyche, through the heels - a dozen posts / articles from the Internet, with calls to a rally to go, such an occupation ... Not very promising. But through the influence of the surrounding reality - easily. Only the problem is that this very reality was not created by an oval one, it has no levers for that. But the government agencies do. But the oval is somehow indirectly related to them. yes
          1. Finches
            Finches 21 May 2021 14: 37
            +2
            And if you look very deeply, then

            - The ancestors are to blame! Great-grandfathers, great-grandmothers, grandchildren, uncles, aunts are different, forefathers, well, and foremothers, uh-huh. In life, they behaved like the last pigs, and now I clean up their past. I have something to do with it, it's not my fault!
            - Who?
            - Uncle. Here, too, it happened in the company, he would talk to just about anyone, talk to himself from three boxes, and his soul is thin, delicate and easily vulnerable, well, so that later not to suffer, he will take, it happened, and even poison the interlocutor.
            - Scoundrel!
            - Uniform cattle.
            laughing
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 21 May 2021 18: 21
              +1
              Quote: Finches
              And if you look very deeply, then

              It would be better to go to church than to a disco with cocaine.
          2. nobody75
            nobody75 21 May 2021 16: 28
            0
            Advertising of deception and defamation of the authorities, in the person of Pechkin. Advertising of black archeology, concealment of treasure, criminality in general is purest.

            Why so - an elven heel on IT "economy". You need to look wider! Many heads of IT departments have a pension program like this (this is in addition to kickbacks):
            1 Buy something unnecessary
            2 To drip into the ground, write the inscription.
            3 Will quit under the slogan "We'll go looking for the treasure!"
            Sincerely
          3. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 21 May 2021 18: 20
            +1
            Quote: Lannan Shi
            Let's take, for example, a series of cartoons about buttermilk.

            This is one of the harmless cartoons, but they are not being shown now, but they are driving all the American crap, only "Mickey and Mouse" is worth it, I am silent about the "Pink Cow". And the children now do not want to watch the good Soviet cartoons, but watch the US ones that have filled in all the channels. And unfortunately there are no Russian cartoons.
        2. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 21 May 2021 18: 14
          +1
          Quote: Finches
          Navalny and his accomplices openly campaigned among children to violate the law, including attracting youngsters to their liberal sabbaths!

          I didn’t think that only dolls and Goebbels adherents had climbed onto the site. (depending on the cons) bugs are raging.
          1. Finches
            Finches 21 May 2021 18: 50
            +2
            Their name is legion ... They can do nothing, can do nothing, just shit ... Amazing psychology!
      3. Terenin
        Terenin 21 May 2021 11: 55
        +3
        Quote: BISMARCK94
        Well, yes, Navalny campaigned to columbine everyone. Are you not a member of parliament? Who will now again say down with the game and the Internet with a passport?

        Unfortunately, our deputies condone this child and adolescent lawlessness on the Internet. I wrote above about Zatulin ...
    2. frruc
      frruc 21 May 2021 11: 16
      +9
      Has reached the age of 14, he is suitable for criminal liability. To judge and imprison this villain. This is already matured, possibly in the future, a recidivist-criminal. And let the parents pay money for the treatment and rehabilitation of the teacher.
    3. Glory1974
      Glory1974 21 May 2021 11: 24
      +16
      The result of a complete lack of upbringing. If the Minister of Education asserts that the school provides educational services and should be brought up in families, there will be no other result.
      Recently in St. Petersburg, three teenagers went to hook on trains and make clips for the Internet. One of them fell under the train, both of his legs were cut off. The comrades came up, took him off the phone and left without helping! You represent the level of degradation! And where are the school lessons of courage, education in the spirit of "perish yourself, but help your comrade"? But he is not. and unfortunately not. The boy survived miraculously. From a passing train, a driver who was brought up in Soviet times noticed him, stopped the train and called an ambulance.
      That's it. I do not know what the teenagers said in their defense, but this istria is hushed up in every possible way, because it is an indicator of the moral state of modern schoolchildren.
      1. Uncle lee
        Uncle lee 21 May 2021 11: 44
        +5
        Quote: glory1974
        The result of a complete lack of upbringing

        Previously, the teacher was a respected and indisputable authority for schoolchildren and parents ... And the Teacher taught, and now he provides paid services in his subject ...
        1. Murmur 55
          Murmur 55 21 May 2021 12: 01
          +3
          And this was true, and now the teachers are TRAINED to the very bottom of the social. stairs and giggle disgustingly, so soon the staff hunger will begin in the field of education, the teachers of the OLD school leave (age), young people either quickly UNDERSTAND what awaits them and run away, or rush to well-paid lyceums and elites. schools, or go to tutors, so that soon there will be no one to teach, even in cities such things are already planned about villages and urban settlements generally keep quiet. And NOBODY will answer for this.
        2. antivirus
          antivirus 21 May 2021 12: 05
          +4
          I read all the comts - we must start with the prestige of teachers-doctors, people working for people. their prestige can be increased by increasing scholarships for students and salaries for teachers.
          AND AT THE SAME TIME TO COVER THE NIGHT DRINKING HOUSES AND STRIPTISES WITH BOOKLING AND DANCES. CONSERVATIVE ROTATION OF OB-VA FROM "ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE".
          and above all the roofs of such institutions - security officials - refusal to earn extra money - only a salary.
          and the result in hospitals and schools will be in 5-10 years. not earlier. life goes on and will continue even without changing approaches to solving the problems of the society.
        3. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 21 May 2021 12: 40
          +3
          Quote: Uncle Lee
          And the Teacher taught, and now he provides paid services in his subject ...

          And teachers can now complain to various authorities up to the court, and parents and students.
          1. Uncle lee
            Uncle lee 21 May 2021 12: 52
            +1
            Quote: tihonmarine
            can complain now

            Before the teacher, the boys took their hands out of their pockets .... It was not for nothing that they said: "Hands in trousers, nose in pocket - it turned out to be a bully!"
            Since then I have remembered - hands in pockets - disrespect for the person with whom you are talking. And now even presidents keep their hands in their pockets, talking to the audience - they are ignorant ...
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 21 May 2021 15: 54
              +1
              Quote: Uncle Lee
              Since then I have remembered - hands in pockets - disrespect for the person with whom you are talking.

              If I went to school in a hat, I went straight to the memorization or the director on the carpet. The same thing, I can't go into the room wearing a headdress.
              1. Uncle lee
                Uncle lee 22 May 2021 01: 11
                +1
                Quote: tihonmarine
                I went to school in a hat,

                It was so....
        4. Polite Moose
          Polite Moose 21 May 2021 13: 29
          +4
          Quote: Uncle Lee
          Previously, the teacher was a respected and indisputable authority for students and parents.

          And the exclusion from the school of especially oversized ignoramuses was quite real and practically put an end to further admission to the university, serving in prestigious military branches, on the prospect of career growth in the labor collective. Both the students and their parents understood this. And it WORKED!
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 22 May 2021 09: 59
            +1
            Quote: Polite Elk
            And the exclusion from the school of especially oversized ignoramuses was quite real and practically put an end to further admission to the university.

            One road - "Craft".
      2. Doccor18
        Doccor18 21 May 2021 12: 36
        +3
        Quote: glory1974
        I do not know what the teenagers said in their defense, but this istria is hushed up in every possible way, because it is an indicator of the moral state of modern schoolchildren.

        This is exactly what we need to shout about, shout about the problem, and not keep silent.
        But the "hero-killers" - on the contrary, do not advertise in all the media, and then dryly comment on that the guilt is proven, the punishment is life, period. Then the "publicity" effect, which is so important now, will go away ...
      3. Lannan Shi
        Lannan Shi 21 May 2021 14: 38
        0
        Quote: glory1974
        If the Minister of Education asserts that education services are provided in the school and should be brought up in families, there will be no other result.

        Not? Why not? A normal result is quite possible. But only if this position is coordinated with the position of the Minister of Labor and Social Protection. So that one parent could support the whole family and raise the other children. Then there will be education. And when both hunch back from dawn to dusk, then we will not receive education, but the growth of burdock by the fence.
    4. Stas157
      Stas157 21 May 2021 11: 36
      +2
      Quote: vkl.47
      Generation mongerstein and bulk.

      Is Navalny President or Mongerstein in Russia? Is it they who are responsible for Russian education, for the opportunity for youth to realize themselves, for free sports clubs, for high wages and the number of jobs for the same youth? Who is responsible for this?
      1. Fungus
        Fungus 21 May 2021 11: 42
        .
        Navalny. Nefig was to incite shkolota to offenses.
      2. Murmur 55
        Murmur 55 21 May 2021 12: 06
        0
        Stas here the question is in ourselves, try now the power to tighten the screws on the subject of improving morality and spirituality (I'm not talking about religion), then it will start that it’s not far from the clashes, and the more morally corrupted the society, the better the authorities, look in the world, a minimum of knowledge (the most basic skills), knowledge that allows you to get out of the bottom only for the grandmother, which means only the elite. Maximum freedom in terms of moral permissiveness and voila, whatever you want.
        1. Terenin
          Terenin 21 May 2021 12: 36
          +4
          Quote: Murmur 55
          try now the power to tighten the screws on the subject of improving morality and spirituality (I'm not talking about religion), then this will begin that it is not far from clashes,

          By and large, any religion is an integral part of ensuring safety, primarily for adolescents. Excluding radical directions of intolerance, but this is already a deformation of religion.
        2. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets 21 May 2021 12: 37
          -4
          Quote: Murmur 55
          Stas here the question is in ourselves, try now the power to tighten the screws on the subject of improving morality and spirituality (I'm not talking about religion), then this will begin that even before clashes are not far away

          Let the "power" start with itself, then there will be no clashes.
    5. GRIGORIY76
      GRIGORIY76 21 May 2021 11: 59
      -1
      Rather, the "generation of Putin", all life with him and his system.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 21 May 2021 12: 42
        0
        Quote: GRIGORIY76
        Rather, the "generation of Putin", all life with him and his system.

        And the generation of the "smartphone".
        1. Pilot
          Pilot 21 May 2021 13: 06
          0
          Her, a little higher, more precisely, Grigory noticed that practically two generations were `` deformed, '' thanks to the practically unchanged system (order) since 91 ... sad
          Let me ask, as a regular at the establishment, why were almost everyone lowered into the dushary, instead of the epaulette, some have some kind of garbage painted over. And for some, everything is still in place, who is this, professional commentators for a fraction of the time? laughing I skipped a little, it was good that I was not sent to the disbat. laughing What happened at all? hi
    6. bk0010
      bk0010 21 May 2021 13: 20
      0
      Quote: vkl.47
      Generation mongerstein and bulk.
      United Russia, in fact, they are now in power.
  3. Shuttle
    Shuttle 21 May 2021 11: 13
    0
    Instead of a thousand words.
    1. Smoked
      Smoked 21 May 2021 12: 07
      +6
      In the comments, for the most part, a bunch of prohibitors, they watch this for a long time and unpleasant. It's like a crowd "crucify him" 2000 years ago.
  4. Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 21 May 2021 11: 16
    +7
    Well, here's another relapse of a youngster ... I hope that law-abiding citizens will not be prohibited from banning knives and other sharp objects after that.
    And so it becomes obvious that some of the adolescents have no brakes in relation to teachers and their peers ... it is easy to understand by watching their videos with beatings and humiliation by classmates.
    Too many rights were given to students, the right to punish violent students was taken away from schools and parents, and the impunity of adolescents is beginning to bear terrible fruit.
    1. loki565
      loki565 21 May 2021 11: 24
      .
      Well, here's another relapse of a youngster ... I hope that law-abiding citizens will not be prohibited from banning knives and other sharp objects after that.
      .

      In vain make a mistake, one wounded man attacked with a knife, attacked dozens of killed with a shotgun. Weapon control will be strengthened and rightly so.
      1. Lech from Android.
        Lech from Android. 21 May 2021 11: 28
        +4
        I’m not making a mistake, I don’t have to lie, the government may well prohibit knives of a more specific size and shape.
        Control over weapons without work among adolescents is a profanation and populism of the authorities.
        It is not the weapon that shoots and kills, but the person in whose hands it is.
        It is very important that this person's brain is in order.
        1. loki565
          loki565 21 May 2021 11: 34
          -6
          I’m not making a mistake, I don’t have to lie, the government may well prohibit knives of a more specific size and shape.

          Just make a mistake, by the way, let it be known to you, knives "of a more definite size and shape" are already prohibited)))
          Control over weapons without work among adolescents is a profanation and populism of the authorities.

          One does not interfere with the other, but rather is beneficial.
          It is not the weapon that shoots and kills, but the person in whose hands it is.
          It is very important that this person's brain is in order.

          This is exactly what is included in the strengthening of control over weapons, for example, as in Germany, a psychological examination, real and not formal as now (do not stand on the register, then you have passed) Every three years the adequacy and reliability of the owner of the weapon is checked, etc.
          1. Lech from Android.
            Lech from Android. 21 May 2021 11: 43
            +7
            And you are just lying, pulling an owl on the globe ... tell me how the ban on the shape and size of knives influenced the statistics of murders in society?
            They kill people in the most unusual way, with household items, household trinkets, everything that comes to hand ... do not fool people.
            1. loki565
              loki565 21 May 2021 11: 53
              -5
              And you are just lying, pulling an owl on the globe ... tell me how the ban on the shape and size of knives influenced the statistics of murders in society?

              You showed your ignorance in this matter, now you are trying to translate the conversation to kitchen knives))) Stop juggling, it is clear that you can kill with a stone, but for some reason the military does not run with stones, the Chinese do not count with the Indians)))
              1. Lech from Android.
                Lech from Android. 21 May 2021 11: 56
                0
                Maybe I'm not aware, but I'm trying to put myself in the shoes of the victims and understand what is happening.
                Stop telling me that I am mocking and I will not say that you are lying. hi
                1. loki565
                  loki565 21 May 2021 12: 01
                  -1
                  Maybe I'm not aware, but I'm trying to put myself in the shoes of the victims and understand what is happening.

                  So you do it badly, usually I have not read it, but I condemn it)))
                  1. Lech from Android.
                    Lech from Android. 21 May 2021 12: 05
                    +1
                    I read it and I condemn it, I'm just an ordinary law-abiding citizen and I can at any time be in the place of the victims and I proceed from this logic and not the logic of the State Duma deputies adopting strange laws. hi
          2. SERGE ANT
            SERGE ANT 21 May 2021 11: 49
            +15
            Destruction is not in the closets, but in the heads, as F.F. Preobrazhensky correctly noted. Do you think that if weapons and knives are banned there will be no more such cases - they will beat with sticks and stones. It's not about weapons, it's about educating young people, which is quite a state. Where there are free sports sections, hobby groups in the same House of Pioneers, where it is all. And parents now also have practically no time for children, from morning till night work and part-time work, they would have to pay a mortgage and for food and clothes for the family make money ..
          3. Lech from Android.
            Lech from Android. 21 May 2021 11: 52
            +3
            Psychological examination also does not give a complete guarantee against murder by gun owners. In Irkutsk, during the arrest, a Russian guardsman shot a law-abiding citizen in the back, wounding along the way the guard who helped to detain him.
            There is a video on the net ... any of us can be accidentally perforated.
          4. antivirus
            antivirus 21 May 2021 12: 00
            +4
            psychologists in the school and all psychiatrists and psychologists were made redundant 10 years ago, in the hospitals of the psychiatric hospitals
            - there is a result. or is there no one responsible?
          5. bk316
            bk316 21 May 2021 12: 34
            +3
            knives of "more than a certain size and shape" are already prohibited)))

            So what? According to statistics, this one is the most dangerous knife.

            We will control.?
        2. Forcecom
          Forcecom 21 May 2021 11: 47
          +4
          You can kill a person with a fountain pen, in the normal version, with a fountain pen in general with a bang - will we also prohibit it? The mess is not in the toilets, the mess in the heads (c).
      2. AUL
        AUL 21 May 2021 12: 07
        +4
        Quote: loki565
        Weapon control will be strengthened and rightly so.

        Sure! And first of all, forks must be banned - a terrible weapon, two blows - eight holes! laughing
      3. Shuttle
        Shuttle 21 May 2021 13: 38
        +3
        Quote: loki565
        Well, here's another relapse of a youngster ... I hope that law-abiding citizens will not be prohibited from banning knives and other sharp objects after that.
        .

        In vain make a mistake, one wounded man attacked with a knife, attacked dozens of killed with a shotgun. Weapon control will be strengthened and rightly so.

        Perhaps you don’t know and certainly didn’t see that time yourself, but in the first years after the Second World War in the USSR, there were all kinds of unaccounted for weapons on the battlefield. Many people handed over, but there was no technical problem to acquire a barrel and even an automatic one. However, there was no news about such "Columbines". This is because people had a clearer, more comprehensible, calmer and brighter life with all material constraints. They had the opportunity to gain public acceptance in other more ... sustainable ways.
        Such shootings and attacks are a product of the consciousness of some unstable individuals. But their consciousness, or rather the specific instability of their psyche, is a product of the reflection of the surrounding reality in it.
        Let's be clear. Yes, everyone looked at the arrow. And doctors, and teachers, and district police. Why? Because their main goal, like the rest of society, is money.
        Example. In the USSR, the average level of material wealth may have been lower than in the United States in the 60s, 70s, 80s. But there were no such cases in the USSR, but in the USA there were. Now we have a socio-economic structure similar to the United States and, voila, we get the same excesses as theirs. Even in blessed Norway there is Breivik. This is not a coincidence.
    2. Igoresha
      Igoresha 21 May 2021 11: 55
      +5
      took away from schools and parents the right
      it is, and no one is trying to return this right or even talk about it, the teacher is now zero and there is no way to call him.
    3. Dimy4
      Dimy4 21 May 2021 11: 57
      +3
      And so it becomes obvious that some of the adolescents have no brakes in relation to teachers and their peers ... this is easy to understand by watching their videos with beatings and humiliation by classmates

      Then information flashed that two 11-year-olds! schoolchildren had a fight at recess and one another stuck a knife in the back! Well at least the victim remained alive.
    4. Murmur 55
      Murmur 55 21 May 2021 12: 12
      +3
      Because the "child" is always right.
      Three sisters stabbed the sleeping dad of the VICTIM.
      Shot one ........... 8 colleagues, 3 of whom are not guilty of anything, VICTIM.
      Sevastopol shooter, VICTIM.
      Wait in Kazan, too, they will begin (or try) to sculpt a VICTIM.
      So they begin to think that do not do "mow" under the victim and everything will be tip-top. hi
      1. bk316
        bk316 21 May 2021 12: 45
        +2
        Because the "child" is always right.

        It pisses me off that this is only half of the picture.
        The second:
        gave a pedophile in the face, who drags the girl into the gateway - sat down
        shot a robber rushing into your house - sat down
  5. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 21 May 2021 11: 44
    -4
    What a good boy.(
    1. Pilot
      Pilot 21 May 2021 11: 59
      0
      .. ,, a little bit out of the model of a member of the consumer society, well, now there is a proposal to use the labor of prisoners .. for the benefit of the state, of course, but how else. The young body will replenish the ranks of construction brigades, not everyone can do heavy physical labor there, convicted moneybags are usually sick))
  6. Sergey Nikiforov
    Sergey Nikiforov 21 May 2021 11: 48
    +1
    That's it, instructions from the Russian Guard on tightening the turnover of knives are needed.There are no other options for solving problems, from the word at all
  7. Ural resident
    Ural resident 21 May 2021 11: 53
    +2
    Berezniki is considered to be a very criminal area. There are a lot of former ZK living there. Been there many times, relatives live. Stabbing is a common thing there. Most likely, the kid is just from a dysfunctional family, as he was taught to solve issues, so he decides.
  8. isv000
    isv000 21 May 2021 11: 56
    +2
    Yes, here a whole analytical department needs to be created to track fermentation processes in the network. Otherwise, these "children" cannot be saved ...
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 21 May 2021 12: 08
      +1
      Even if you create 10 departments to track the degree of fermentation on the network, this is not a solution to the problem.
      1. isv000
        isv000 21 May 2021 12: 56
        +1
        I cannot disagree. Everything starts with a family. For myself I will simply say: my youngest is 18,5 years old, does not drink / does not smoke and does not pull, went in for sports, has categories B, C and now serves in the Armed Forces - voluntarily, refused to mow ...
  9. Prisoner
    Prisoner 21 May 2021 12: 01
    -1
    Lyceum student? Not a cadet for a company commander, not a cadet for mathematics, a student of a lyceum. And how does this apply to VO. What's military? Steel arms?
  10. Tagan
    Tagan 21 May 2021 12: 13
    -3
    Quote: Stas157
    Quote: vkl.47
    Generation mongerstein and bulk.

    Is Navalny President or Mongerstein in Russia? Is it they who are responsible for Russian education, for the opportunity for youth to realize themselves, for free sports clubs, for high wages and the number of jobs for the same youth? Who is responsible for this?

    Bulk, whom you pray for, is one of the varieties of mold that eats away at fragile brains, which, among other things, contributes to the manifestation of aggression and extremism among young animals.
    It is with our government that it is worth asking why they are allowed to have time to shit, and not neutralized at an early stage.
  11. Prax1
    Prax1 21 May 2021 12: 25
    -2
    It is necessary to introduce an age limit for the purchase of a knife from 21 years old + a certificate from a narcologist, etc.
    1. Pilot
      Pilot 21 May 2021 12: 37
      0
      Better then generally prohibit piercing-cutting)) .. instead of a fork and a knife ..what And not at the bar, and so we will gnaw and skhomyachim, if only there was something)) winked
    2. Murmur 55
      Murmur 55 21 May 2021 12: 37
      +1
      What kind of knife ??? Blade type, blade material ???? Then they will start attacking with an ax and, with nail pullers, edgers and other tools, and if the pupils tomorrow smash the teacher's head with a club, close the hockey sections?
  12. Blue fox
    Blue fox 21 May 2021 12: 51
    +3
    Once conducted a lesson with schoolchildren on the history of the battles for Leningrad. In addition to helmets, bowlers and shrapnel glasses, etc. there was also an empty weapon. So one of the teenagers kept trying to find out if he could buy such a weapon and how to convert it into a combat weapon. When asked, why would he need it? answered simply, with smiles, to dunk his enemies. Of course, we passed the information to the class teacher, but she says that the guy is calm, his parents are modest, he is at work all the time. After class, one of us, even under the pretext of going for a smoke (not very pedagogical, but what can you do), had a conversation with him, but there is such a mess in his head from movies, cartoons and games ... We tried to lure him either to search engines or to reenactors, but interest he didn’t show it, but you won’t be forced to pull it ... Last year, for obvious reasons, there were no such classes, and this year he has already graduated from school. I hope it will not "shoot" anywhere.
  13. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 21 May 2021 13: 03
    +1
    The regional Ministry of Internal Affairs confirmed the fact of the attack, stating that in Lyceum No. 1, a student attacked the teacher, using knife-like object.
    In the regional Ministry of Internal Affairs it looks like fool If so, why are they given the floor? In the Investigative Directorate of the Investigative Committee of the Perm Territory
    using a knife,
  14. bk0010
    bk0010 21 May 2021 13: 25
    0
    Well, knives are also only after 21 years old?
  15. dedusik
    dedusik 21 May 2021 13: 36
    +5
    Quote: Uncle Lee
    Quote: glory1974
    The result of a complete lack of upbringing

    Previously, the teacher was a respected and indisputable authority for schoolchildren and parents ... And the Teacher taught, and now he provides paid services in his subject ...

    Now the teacher has no rights in front of teenagers, if he tries to put a teenager in a corner for hooliganism in the lesson, as they put us, on the same day a high on the Internet of moms will rise, and on the second day the teacher will be fired
    1. Pilot
      Pilot 21 May 2021 14: 03
      +3
      I remember at school a very ruler came from the classroom, and then at home, having studied the diary with a red note from the teacher, the parents added, and normally all this upbringing was perceived by Soviet children ... well, you will take revenge so slightly with a small dirty trick, and even then it was in the lower grades -and then you gnaw the granite of science. It does not even fit in my head how painful this society of egoistic consumers is now, and the most disgusting thing is that under the current system it simply cannot be otherwise. Changes are possible only through serious shocks, such as a major operation with a neglected illness.
    2. Murmur 55
      Murmur 55 21 May 2021 14: 41
      +1
      One teacher leading a healthy lifestyle, took a picture in a CLOSED swimsuit at a competition, hounded, and put you in a corner.
  16. Maalkavianin
    Maalkavianin 21 May 2021 15: 30
    +3
    Now this will happen all the time. Unfortunately. And judging by the measures taken, the state does not know what to do about it. The banning of films, games, cartoons in which there is cruelty, the tightening of control over hunting weapons, all this is complete populist nonsense, being done for show in order to calm the population. They say we are taking action. These are not measures, but bullshit.
  17. Vladislav_2
    Vladislav_2 21 May 2021 17: 10
    +1
    yes, there probably are parents or drunkards and or in general there is nothing to do with the child and he lives on the upbringing of the street! ..... well, not in GTA, he "played and went" with a knife what
    1. dedusik
      dedusik 21 May 2021 17: 14
      +1
      No, impunity and permissiveness in the absence of upbringing both at home and at school
  18. Chack wessel
    Chack wessel 21 May 2021 18: 28
    +1
    Was there a permit for a knife?
  19. Moskal 55
    Moskal 55 21 May 2021 22: 31
    +1
    Why this grows in industrial volumes is understandable, even God has mercy, tk. there could have been much more. But in the near future it will be necessary to "clamp down". And the control of the Internet, and law enforcement and inspection structures ... If only this is not limited, and strategic measures were taken. But they are impossible without recognizing all the abomination of what we did during perestroika and beyond.
  20. Storog dvornik
    Storog dvornik 22 May 2021 00: 19
    +1
    The surname of the attacker on the teacher in the Perm Territory is characteristic - Dolbeev ... Ethnicity + \ - is clear ...
    Like the murderer in the Kazan school ...
    Religious and ethnic obscurantism in Russia is evident ...
  21. sagitovich
    sagitovich 22 May 2021 15: 56
    +1
    These are just the first "bells". With such an upbringing, when a teacher does not have the right to attract a student to work, we will get an army of similar ones. And all this liberalistic education, conceived with the aim of the collapse of the country in the future.
  22. zenion
    zenion 22 May 2021 18: 54
    0
    Schoolchildren began to take an exam for saboteurs? What can I say - if there was a war ?!