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Israel and Hamas accept Egypt's offer and cease fire

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On the eve of the parties to the Palestinian-Israeli conflict, they accepted Cairo's proposal for a complete and unconditional ceasefire. The proposal came from the Egyptian leadership, which called on Israel and Hamas to stop the hostilities, which had already brought the situation to a de facto dead end. For several days, the sides exchanged numerous blows, which led to the most dire consequences.


As a result, Israel and the ruling circles of the Gaza Strip accepted the offer and agreed to cease fire from 2 am on May 21. The Israeli military command issued an order to suspend Operation Wall Guard, which lasted about 10 days.

At the same time, both sides declare that they are counting exclusively on a bilateral ceasefire. Thus, the IDF command notes that Operation Wall Guard will be immediately resumed in the event of a new shelling of Israeli territory.

Meanwhile, Israeli intelligence has provided the government with data on the number of missiles currently in Gaza and surrounding areas. If you believe this information, the missiles at the combat wing of Hamas are about 10 thousand. Most of them are said to be stored in “local houses”. At a cabinet meeting, it was announced that if the Israeli Air Force receives an order to destroy this entire arsenal, this will lead to the deaths of thousands of Palestinians in the Gaza Strip.

It should be recalled that during the days during which a new round of armed confrontation manifested itself (about 12 days), the Hamas combat wing fired about 4 missiles at Israel. And earlier it was reported that the rockets in Gaza "will last for about 2 more months of shelling, if their intensity remains the same." As you can see, this does not fit with the new data from Israeli intelligence.

The Israeli press writes that the main security forces of the country, including the chief of the General Staff, the head of the National Security Council and the leadership of the Mossad, unanimously recommended that the government stop the military operation.
It was stated that "its main goal has already been achieved - substantial damage has been inflicted on the Hamas infrastructure."

At the same time, Hamas, having supported Egypt's proposal for a ceasefire, notes that the Israeli side, in addition to stopping its military operation, has promised to refuse to evict Arab families from Sheikh Jarah (a quarter in Jerusalem). The agreements reached on the Temple Mount are also added. But in the Israeli media they write that apart from the ceasefire, Israel did not undertake any additional obligations.
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  1. Lionnvrsk
    Lionnvrsk 21 May 2021 06: 34
    +4
    Well, really, they shot, let the steam out, that's enough!
    1. Finches
      Finches 21 May 2021 06: 46
      +10
      Israel needs to clearly understand to itself that Hamas will not go anywhere - they simply have nowhere to go, the same applies to Hamas - Jews from Jerusalem to Birobidzhan will not go! You need to sit down and negotiate!
      1. Kaman
        Kaman 21 May 2021 07: 14
        0
        Zyablitsev, it’s immediately obvious that you have not the slightest idea what Hamas and the Islamists are. We want to live, and They want not a single living Jew to be in the space between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River. This leaves too little room for compromise.
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 21 May 2021 07: 28
          +3
          Quote: Kaman
          We want to live, but They want not a single living Jew to be

          Everything has a reason. It is the Jews who populate the Arab territories, and not vice versa. Is it because the Arabs hate the Jews so much that they are squeezing them out of their land?
          1. tlauicol
            tlauicol 21 May 2021 08: 25
            +8
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            Quote: Kaman
            We want to live, but They want not a single living Jew to be

            Everything has a reason. It is the Jews who populate the Arab territories, and not vice versa. Is it because the Arabs hate the Jews so much that they are squeezing them out of their land?

            Jews populate the Arabian Peninsula? here are you bastards!
            1. NIKN
              NIKN 21 May 2021 10: 34
              +5
              Why do they hate the Jews? Here's the question. Probably envy.
              1. Incvizitor
                Incvizitor 21 May 2021 12: 02
                -6
                Maybe because the Jews are waving to the main world terrorists of the FSA enemies, including the Arabs, the wars started from this, after all, when Israel betrayed humanity and went after fascington ...
                1. tlauicol
                  tlauicol 21 May 2021 12: 08
                  +5
                  Quote: Incvizitor
                  Maybe because the Jews are waving to the main world terrorists of the FSA enemies, including the Arabs, the wars started from this, after all, when Israel betrayed humanity and went after fascington ...

                  Learn materiel: wars began when the Jordanians were allies of the United States. The Jews defeated a bunch of Arabs twice before the Americans became their allies. Regarding "humanity" and "fascism" - also study the material, Arabs with a swastika are people in your opinion?
                  1. Tatyana
                    Tatyana 21 May 2021 14: 18
                    -7
                    Hamas, supporting the Egyptian proposal for a ceasefire, note that Israeli side in addition to stopping his power operation promised to refuse to evict Arab families from Sheikh Jarah (a quarter in Jerusalem). Added and on the agreements reached on the Temple Mount.
                    Rђ RІRѕS, in the Israeli media write about that apart from the ceasefire, Israel did not undertake ANY ADDITIONAL obligations.

                    Purely Zionist! Israel has promised something to the Arab goyim - and will not fulfill it!
                    1. Babermetis
                      Babermetis 21 May 2021 15: 42
                      +5
                      Quote: Tatiana
                      Hamas, supporting the Egyptian proposal for a ceasefire, note that Israeli side in addition to stopping his power operation promised to refuse to evict Arab families from Sheikh Jarah (a quarter in Jerusalem). Added and on the agreements reached on the Temple Mount.
                      Rђ RІRѕS, in the Israeli media write about that apart from the ceasefire, Israel did not undertake ANY ADDITIONAL obligations.

                      Purely Zionist! Israel has promised something to the Arab goyim - and will not fulfill it!


                      Tatyana, my dear, there is a certain difference between Zionists and Jews (I do not use it specifically, Jews (since the time of the Second Catherine, it was forbidden to call Jews and Judas in the legislation).
                      There is the concept of Zionism, from the word Zion, in the original Qiyon is a geographical place on earth where the Abode of God is located, with all its laws and restrictions. In the 19th century, the "Zionist" movement emerged, consisting in its mass of non-religious Jews. Who, used the term Zion, to define the nation-state for the Jews-Jews, and not the fulfillment of the Divine Manifestation on earth.

                      Goyim can be of different nationalities and religions, besides, Arab goyim have many states with their own national interests. I am sure that some of the Arab goyim who are interested in interstate relations with the Zionist state will easily find a reliable geopolitical partner.

                      And those who are against the very existence of the Zionist state, I am sure, will find in this state - a crafty, mortal enemy!
                      1. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 21 May 2021 16: 07
                        -5
                        Quote: Babermetis
                        Tatyana, my dear, there is a certain difference between Zionists and Jews
                        Of course I have! But let's not go into the historical jungle, especially since there are myths to the devil! Let's put it more simply on this issue "Namely.

                        The citizens of Israel are a priori already Zionists and, in principle, by faith, Jews. Also, among the citizens of Israel, there are also many Chabadniks. And Chabad is a radical sect of the Jews.
                        Therefore, there is not much difference between them, for Chabad takes its roots from the racist ideology of Judaism.
                        With this reasoning, I gave you the solution of an elementary semantic equation in formal logic.
                        As a result, your Netanyahu is also, in one way or another, a supporter of Chabad, since Israel is dependent on the US Federal Reserve, and Zionism is the international world political movement of Jews.

                        There will be no reconciliation between Israel and the Palestinians. And the reason for this, in particular, one way or another, is not so much in the Palestinians themselves as in the Israelis themselves and in Israel itself.
                        Well, the Jews do not want to admit this truth - and it is not necessary! All the same, this truth is now much more visible from the outside, especially through the Ukrainian prism.
                        So Zionist greetings from Zelensky!
                      2. Babermetis
                        Babermetis 21 May 2021 16: 25
                        +5
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        Quote: Babermetis
                        Tatyana, my dear, there is a certain difference between Zionists and Jews
                        Of course I have! But let's not go into the historical jungle, especially since there are myths to the devil!

                        The citizens of Israel are a priori already Zionists and, in principle, by faith, Jews. Also, among the citizens of Israel, there are also many Chabadniks. And Chabad is a radical sect of the Jews.
                        Therefore, there is not much difference between them, for Chabad takes its roots from the racist ideology of Judaism.
                        This is a simple formal logical equation.
                        And your Netanyahu is also, in one way or another, a supporter of Chabad, since Israel is dependent on the US Federal Reserve.

                        There will be no reconciliation between Israel and the Palestinians. And the reason for this, in particular, one way or another, is not so much in the Palestinians themselves as in the Israelis themselves and in Israel itself.
                        Well, the Jews do not want to admit this truth - and it is not necessary! All the same, this truth is now much more visible from the outside, especially through the Ukrainian prism.
                        So Zionist greetings from Zelensky!


                        Hasidic movement Chabad, what does it have to do with it? And what is the connection between the Hasidim Chabad (abraveatura Hochma, Bina, Daat, that is, "Wisdom, Science, Knowledge")?
                        Tatyana, I can't understand what is the threat of Judaism to the Russian world? Is the concept of security contrary to the biblical worldview? So, this is normal, the People of Israel received the Torah on Mount Sinai 3333 years ago. And the security concept of the USSR, based on kamunistic atheism, is young, aged ... 40-45 years. You have to be more modest, Tatyana, more modest. Otherwise, the Orthodox Church will bite, not to mention the Old Believers.
                      3. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 21 May 2021 17: 09
                        -4
                        I'm an atheist. And religious confessions are essentially political parties that have historically come down to our time, with their own "party" ideology and philosophical methodology, with their own church "party" "Charter", with their "General Secretary," "Politburo," "party cells and party organizers "in the localities, with their own" party "property, with their own" VPSh ", etc., etc. And all of them are striving closer to state power in order to build the world for themselves and in their own image.
                        For atheists - dialecticians-materialists - this is the most scientifically consistent, elementary, in a philosophical respect, a historically materialistic outlook on life. And he quite has the right to exist in society as a guide to action.
                    2. Krasnodar
                      Krasnodar 21 May 2021 20: 46
                      0
                      ] With this reasoning, I gave you the solution of an elementary semantic equation in formal logic.

                      laughing Well, this ... in short ... Chabad is a sect of fans of the Trotskyite-Miltonfriedman Heresy as interpreted by Sarah Jessica Parker, who interprets the teachings of Kolontai-Zheleznyak in an extremely frivolous manner!
                    3. Nurdom
                      Nurdom 21 May 2021 21: 33
                      0
                      Quote: Tatiana

                      The citizens of Israel are a priori already Zionists and, in principle, by faith, Jews. Also, among the citizens of Israel, there are also many Chabadniks. And Chabad is a radical sect of the Jews.
                      Therefore, there is not much difference between them, for Chabad takes its roots from the racist ideology of Judaism.
                      With this reasoning, I gave you the solution of an elementary semantic equation in formal logic.

                      The logic, of course, is off scale. Level 80 no less. I saw these Chabadniki. Natural nerds. There are not very many of them in Israel. They are at odds with the Zionists. The Zionists created the state of the Jews without waiting for the coming of the Messiah. The Chabadniki are sure that the Jewish state can be created only after the coming of the Messiah and at his direction. So then, in fact, they are anti-Zionists.
                      What do you care about the "sect of the Jews"? Judaism forbids missionary work. They do not call Christians to convert to Judaism, on the contrary. Family relations are cherished, they are traditionally treated with respect, liberal ideas are not promoted, they are negative towards LGBT people, they do not support anarchists and hooligans, they themselves do not go to fight, they do not arrange demonstrations against the authorities, they do not paint churches with six-pointed stars, there is water in the tap. What else do you want from them? All Russian public organizations would be happy with such a set. ...
                    4. Tatyana
                      Tatyana 21 May 2021 21: 49
                      -3
                      You write everything correctly, but with an obvious geopolitical misunderstanding in the field of interethnic relations.
                      It’s even very interesting - and where are you writing all this to me: from Israel or from Russia? And what is your nationality? What country are you a citizen of?
                      Why do you personally care about this problem?
                    5. Nurdom
                      Nurdom 22 May 2021 01: 20
                      0
                      Quote: Tatiana
                      You write everything correctly, but with an obvious geopolitical misunderstanding in the field of interethnic relations.
                      It’s even very interesting - and where are you writing all this to me: from Israel or from Russia? And what is your nationality? What country are you a citizen of?
                      Why do you personally care about this problem?

                      Of course I am writing everything correctly. You see the venerable Mr. Dugin confirms.
                      I am a citizen of Russia. Russian. I am writing to you all this from Israel, where I am undergoing treatment after a serious and prolonged illness. Five years ago, I practically died in Moscow and in a state of clinical death I was sent to Israel in a light cryocontainer, having lowered my temperature to 34,5 degrees.
                      In the full sense of the word, I was resurrected by returning from the other world. My illness has been defeated. I was able to return home. Once a year I come to Israel where I have a full examination. This time the war caught me here. I spent 10 unforgettable days under continuous shelling, sharing with the local residents their plight. We sat together in the bomb shelter, waiting for this horror to end. The locals helped me a lot to overcome my fears.
                      Sorry, I was distracted.
                      The problem of the Chabad Hasidim does not bother me at all. I saw that she interests you very much. Why is the atheist and materialist interested in a narrow trend in Judaism? Hasidim have nothing to do with geopolitics. How did you come into contact with them at all? We have a lot of more important things in our country, and so than some Jewish worship. Moreover, they are loyal to the state and their braces differ from ours exclusively in their attitude to the Son of God. And even that attitude is not aggressive, but nothing.
                      You write: "I believe that for the analysis of the contradictions in our understanding of Zionism and Judaism, you personally, Anastasia," These contradictions, as well as you, do not concern me. This is some kind of inside Jewish affairs in which it is somehow even indecent for the Russians to climb. In our country and in our traditional Orthodoxy, there will probably be some contradictions. This is what I wanted to tell you. Sorry, it's late. 20 minutes past one. Good night.
                    6. Tatyana
                      Tatyana 22 May 2021 08: 58
                      -3
                      Thank you, Anastasia, for your sincere answer! It was interesting for me to talk to you. I understood the reason for your point of view on this geopolitical problem and why scientifically sound explanations on it in the person of A. Dugin are ignored by you - i.e. why tolerantly categorically not taken into account by you.
                      Quote: Nurdom
                      You write: "I believe that for the analysis of the contradictions in our understanding of Zionism and Judaism, you personally, Anastasia," These contradictions, as well as you, do not concern me. These are some kind of Jewish affairs in which it is somehow even indecent for the Russians to climb.
                      This is your erroneous delusion.
                      Religious issues in various religious concepts concern each and every one. Both believers and atheists must be able to understand them politically. And even insofar as the war in the BV of the Arabs with the same Israel, among other things, has a RELIGIOUS background between them. In principle, this is a RELIGIOUS war - a war of religious ideologies.
                      In any war, there are always at least 2 sides, not one.
                      And in the SAR they are present at the invitation of the Russian Aerospace Forces.
                      So how, in this case, the problem of Zionism and Judaism can be ignored by the other side ?! Well, only if as endless trouble on your own head!

                      So talk about some kind of supposedly "INABILITY to allegedly" climb "inside Jewish religious affairs" - this is from the field of MANIPULATION of public consciousness exclusively in favor of the geopolitical interests of the Jews alone.

                      In general, I understand you and will end on this.
                      I sincerely wish you health and happiness in your personal life!
                    7. A. Privalov
                      A. Privalov 22 May 2021 14: 56
                      0
                      Quote: Tatiana
                      Thank you, Anastasia, for your sincere answer! It was interesting for me to talk to you. I understood the reason for your point of view on this geopolitical problem and why scientifically sound explanations on it in the person of A. Dugin are ignored by you, i.e. why tolerantly categorically not taken into account by you. This is your erroneous delusion.
                      Religious issues in various religious concepts concern each and every one. Both believers and atheists must be able to understand them politically. And even insofar as the war in the BV of the Arabs with the same Israel, among other things, has a RELIGIOUS background between them. In principle, this is a RELIGIOUS war - a war of religious ideologies.
                      In any war, there are always at least 2 sides, not one.
                      And in the SAR they are present at the invitation of the Russian Aerospace Forces.
                      So how, in this case, the problem of Zionism and Judaism can be ignored by the other side ?! Well, only if as endless trouble on your own head!

                      So talk about some kind of supposedly "INABILITY to allegedly" climb "inside Jewish religious affairs" - this is from the field of MANIPULATION of public consciousness exclusively in favor of the geopolitical interests of the Jews alone.

                      In general, I understand you and will end on this.
                      I sincerely wish you health and happiness in your personal life!


                      But this lady looked right to you.
                      And you immediately manipulators of public consciousness "in favor of geopolitical interests" recorded. What kind of interests? Whose?

                      She answered all your questions frankly.
                      Tell us, why are you rolling a barrel at the Chabadniki, apparently meek and law-abiding people?
                      What do you care about the "sect of the Jews"? Judaism forbids missionary work. They do not call Christians to convert to Judaism, on the contrary. Family relations are cherished, they are traditionally treated with respect, liberal ideas are not promoted, they are negative about LGBT people, they do not support anarchists and hooligans, they themselves do not go to fight, they do not arrange demonstrations against the authorities, they do not paint churches with six-pointed stars, there is water in the tap. What else do you want from them? All Russian public organizations would be happy with such a set.
                      Why is the atheist and materialist interested in a narrow trend in Judaism? Hasidim have nothing to do with geopolitics. How did you come into contact with them at all? We have a lot of more important things in our country, and so than some Jewish worship. Moreover, they are loyal to the state and their braces differ from ours exclusively in their attitude to the Son of God. And even that attitude is not aggressive, but nothing.

                      .

                      If the state had any claims against them, they would instantly be covered up by declaring them extremists as Jehovah's Witnesses and declaring them banned, they would be thrown out the door.

                      What do you have to do with them, and what do the Chabadniks have to do with you?
                      Why are you, living in a country far from the BV, with a bunch of unresolved problems, so occupied by some Hasidim, by the way, not interested in geopolitics, not serving in the army of the damned Zionist invaders, not spreading rot to your Palestinian brothers? hi
              2. Tatyana
                Tatyana 21 May 2021 23: 09
                -3
                I believe that in order to analyze the contradictions in our understanding of Zionism and Judaism, you personally, Anastasia, and everyone else will also be interested in the scientifically sound statement of the philosopher A. Dugin on this interethnic-geopolitical and religious-national Jewish issue, which at the moment is very, very relevant.

                In particular, the philosopher Alexander Dugin tells what Zionism is as the state ideology of Israel. Why do Jews think they are the Chosen People. What is the meaning of the scattering of the Jews as a Jewish tradition. Why is Zionism, on the one hand, a continuation of Judaism, on the other, its refutation.

                Alexander Dugin. What is Zionism
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    2. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 21 May 2021 12: 09
      +1
      Quote: Incvizitor
      Maybe because the Jews are waving to the main world terrorists of the FSA enemies, including the Arabs, the wars started from this, after all, when Israel betrayed humanity and went after fascington ...

      And he did it after his main territorial conquests laughing
  • Professor
    Professor 21 May 2021 11: 32
    +9
    Quote: Tlauicol
    Jews populate the Arabian Peninsula? here are you bastards!

    Jews settle Judea. How can the Arabs agree with this? request
  • ROSS_51
    ROSS_51 21 May 2021 23: 36
    +2
    Quote: Kaman
    Zyablitsev, it’s immediately obvious that you have not the slightest idea what Hamas and the Islamists are. We want to live, and They want not a single living Jew to be in the space between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River. This leaves too little room for compromise.

    And where did this shootout start, do you remind me? The Jews wanted to live in the quarter where the Arabs lived before and now. It is clear how you want to live ..
    Quote: Kaman
    We want to live, and They want not a single living Jew to be in the space between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River.
    Then why is it the other way around? 10 Palestinians perish for one Jewish death?
  • Popandos
    Popandos 21 May 2021 07: 19
    +5
    You need to sit down and negotiate!

    This is not real, unfortunately.
    1. Murmur 55
      Murmur 55 21 May 2021 07: 52
      +1
      hi the most important thing is that it is not necessary for the wrong others, all this truce is a FORCED measure, for a long time the Israelis and Palestinians will fight.
      1. Popandos
        Popandos 21 May 2021 08: 01
        +3
        They have, like Harry Potter and Voldemort -
        One cannot live while the other is alive.
        1. Murmur 55
          Murmur 55 21 May 2021 08: 08
          +1
          Good comparison.
  • A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 21 May 2021 07: 41
    +6
    Quote: Finches
    You need to sit down and negotiate!


    Yesterday, I already explained why this is impossible. I will repeat for you .:
    Article 21 of the Palestinian Charter does not allow them to conduct any negotiations.

    .
    The Arab people of Palestine, expressing themselves through armed revolutionary struggle, rejects any solution to the Palestinian problem that replaces it full release, rejects any plans for settlement and internationalization.


    Do you understand well what is written here, or do you need a translation from the office?

    Already on May 12, Hamas, through all its channels, was looking for a connection with any intermediaries who would help stop the Israeli shelling. The Egyptians, (Israel has long-standing good relations with the local security forces), took up this difficult task. All these days, they have been making a titanic effort to this - they offered various options for terms and agreements. Finally, the long-awaited ceasefire.
    What do we have as a result?
    In the Gaza Strip, Hamas leaders announced a convincing victory over the "Zionist enemy."

    Point.
    1. Finches
      Finches 21 May 2021 08: 18
      +2
      So, in my opinion, I drew attention to this that both sides of the conflict need to come to their senses - you will never kill all Palestinians, and the Palistins will never kill all Jews ... So you need to look for a compromise! Another thing is that nobody needs it. Until humanity matures, it will always destroy its own kind! Under the most delusional pretexts written in idiotic charters ..
      1. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 21 May 2021 08: 35
        +4
        Quote: Finches
        you need to find a compromise! Another thing is that nobody needs it. Until humanity matures, it will always destroy its own kind!

        It seems that humanity will never grow up, because for 2 thousand years from the birth of Christ it has not been able to learn only 10 commandments - do not kill, do not steal, do not commit adultery, etc.
        Wars have been, are and will be. Alas
        1. A. Privalov
          A. Privalov 21 May 2021 09: 11
          +1
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          It seems that humanity will never grow up, because for 2 thousand years from the birth of Christ it has not been able to learn only 10 commandments - do not kill, do not steal, do not commit adultery, etc.

          Since the Ten Commandments were proclaimed by the Almighty on Mount Sinai before the people of Israel in the third month after the Exodus from Egypt (Ex. 19: 1), we can safely write:
          "... humanity will never grow up, because in 3 thousand years... ", further in the text. hi
          1. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky 21 May 2021 09: 14
            +4
            Quote: A. Privalov
            "... humanity will never grow up, because in 3 thousand years ...", further, in the text.

            Especially. Even three thousand years were not enough hi
        2. ROSS_51
          ROSS_51 21 May 2021 23: 58
          -1
          Quote: Nyrobsky

          It seems that humanity will never grow up, because for 2 thousand years from the birth of Christ it has not been able to learn only 10 commandments - do not kill, do not steal, do not commit adultery, etc.
          Wars have been, are and will be. Alas

          What does it have to do with growing up or not growing up. War was, is and will be a condition for the global survival of the state in the future. Cold, hot, hybrid, economic - matured uncles understand for a long time - if they want to ensure the future of their state, others must be destroyed. Or you have to defend yourself, still killing. China, the United States, Russia, they all understand perfectly .. The rest are trying, like a flock of sheep, to huddle together, like the European Union or to join the strong in the hope, perhaps they will not be devoured.
          All other values ​​of "civilization" are just a cover for the main goal - they fly off like a husk when it comes down to it.
          1. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky 22 May 2021 00: 00
            +2
            Quote: ROSS_51
            What does it have to do with growing up or not growing up. The war was, is and will be

            So I am about the same.
            Quote: Nyrobsky
            Wars have been, are and will be. Alas
            What are the contradictions?
            1. ROSS_51
              ROSS_51 22 May 2021 00: 04
              -1
              Quote: Nyrobsky
              What are the contradictions?

              In just one thesis - that humanity has not matured ..))
              1. Nyrobsky
                Nyrobsky 22 May 2021 00: 10
                +3
                Quote: ROSS_51
                Quote: Nyrobsky
                What are the contradictions?

                In just one thesis - that humanity has not matured ..))

                If you can refute it (thesis), then I will certainly agree with your point of view. However, one must take into account the fact that the commandment "Thou shalt not kill" proposed to mankind 3 millennia ago, to this day is not fulfilled either because of childhood or because of poor mind. hi
                1. ROSS_51
                  ROSS_51 22 May 2021 00: 17
                  -1
                  Quote: Nyrobsky
                  Quote: ROSS_51
                  Quote: Nyrobsky
                  What are the contradictions?

                  In just one thesis - that humanity has not matured ..))

                  If you can refute it (thesis), then I will certainly agree with your point of view. However, one must take into account the fact that the commandment "Thou shalt not kill" proposed to mankind 3 millennia ago, to this day is not fulfilled either because of childhood or because of poor mind. hi

                  I would say, according to an adult, sober, cold calculation. "Fatherland in danger" - automatically disables the commandment "Thou shalt not kill" as a mortal sin. And it doesn't matter if the state attacks or defends itself. And they prayed for the death of the enemy millions of times .. And the state does not live according to the commandments, but according to worldly laws, so not fulfilling the commandment "Thou shalt not kill" is not a measure of childhood or stupidity ..
                  1. Nyrobsky
                    Nyrobsky 22 May 2021 00: 24
                    +2
                    Dear colleague, we are talking a little about different things. What you voice is also spelled out in the scripture - "There is no more love than if someone lay down his life for his friends" (Gospel of John chapter 15 verse 13), but humanity ignores the main thing - "Thou shalt not kill." Let's finish for this yes
                  2. ROSS_51
                    ROSS_51 22 May 2021 03: 21
                    0
                    Quote: Nyrobsky
                    Dear colleague, we are talking a little about different things. What you voice is also spelled out in the scripture - "There is no more love than if someone lay down his life for his friends" (Gospel of John chapter 15 verse 13), but humanity ignores the main thing - "Thou shalt not kill." Let's finish for this yes

                    It seems to me that you interpret the scriptures as you like. "To lay down one's own life" (and this is not necessarily a war) and "to take someone else's .." are somewhat different things. Anyway.
    2. A. Privalov
      A. Privalov 21 May 2021 08: 57
      -2
      Quote: Finches
      So, in my opinion, I drew attention to this that both sides of the conflict need to come to their senses - you will never kill all Palestinians, and the Palistins will never kill all Jews ... So you need to look for a compromise! Another thing is that nobody needs it. Until humanity matures, it will always destroy its own kind! Under the most delusional pretexts written in idiotic charters ..

      You did not understand the main thing.
      They do not allow any other solution than the destruction of Israel.
      1. Finches
        Finches 21 May 2021 09: 02
        0
        Yes, I understood everything, but this postulate was also invented by a man!
      2. Vatanadze
        Vatanadze 21 May 2021 10: 17
        -1
        Right. But the IDF will smash them quickly ...
        1. Finches
          Finches 21 May 2021 10: 27
          +1
          For 70 years it has been spreading ...
    3. And Us Rat
      And Us Rat 21 May 2021 09: 00
      +8
      Quote: Finches
      So you need to look for a compromise!

      Who needs? Hamas? Why should they? They consider a terrorist PMC, war is their main source of income and a source of power over Gaza (income from "taxes"). Without a war with Israel, they will lose their raison d'être. And I do not think that they are ready to self-dissolve while the loot is flowing.
      And they always pick up cannon fodder in Gaza, it's not for nothing that they systematically drive their population to despair. (Extortions, control of the economy of the sector, propaganda from infancy, etc.)
      This is a well-functioning business scheme and they will never give up on it voluntarily.
  • bolt
    bolt 21 May 2021 14: 25
    -4
    Quote: A. Privalov
    Yesterday, I already explained why this is impossible. I will repeat for you .:
    Article 21 of the Palestinian Charter does not allow them to conduct any negotiations.

    .
    The Arab people of Palestine, expressing themselves through armed revolutionary struggle, rejects any solution to the Palestinian problem that replaces its complete liberation, rejects any plans for settlement and internationalization.


    Do you understand well what is written here, or do you need a translation from the office?


    You either do not know the subject well, or, more likely, you are simply lying. Not the first time, by the way. And it's easy to check.

    As for your pretentious declarations, answer a simple question, where were you, in fact, born?

    Then who climbed into someone else's "home", the Palestinians - to you, or people like you, "come in large numbers" to the Palestinians and deprive them of their homeland? Do you know this word?
  • Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 21 May 2021 08: 12
    +3
    Has someone taken something from Hamas?
  • And Us Rat
    And Us Rat 21 May 2021 08: 48
    +5
    Quote: Finches
    You need to sit down and negotiate ...

    Why, then, does Assad not sit down with ISIS and negotiate? wink
    1. Finches
      Finches 21 May 2021 08: 57
      -1
      Do not confuse God's gift with scrambled eggs! hi
      1. And Us Rat
        And Us Rat 21 May 2021 09: 33
        +6
        Quote: Finches
        Do not confuse God's gift with scrambled eggs!

        1. Finches
          Finches 21 May 2021 10: 26
          -3
          This is, indeed, different, if only because Hamas is not recognized in Russia as a terrorist organization, unlike ISIS. But this is only the most superficial factor! Therefore, there is no need to pull the owl onto the globe!
          1. And Us Rat
            And Us Rat 21 May 2021 15: 40
            +3
            Quote: Finches
            if only because Hamas is not recognized as a terrorist organization in Russia

            wassat
            Here is an eccentric man. Well tell me, what does it matter?
            1. The legislation of the Russian Federation can recognize as terrorists only elements hostile to Russia, regardless of the miraculousness of their actions. Just the nuances of legislation.
            2. Actions that fall under the enceclopedic term "terrorism" (and deliberate attacks on civilians, not related to the conduct of hostilities - war crime and terrorism) are universal and do not depend on the point of view.
            3. Legislative "recognition" of the Russian Federation has no legal force in this conflict zone. Simply put, it doesn't matter.

            Quote: Finches
            This is really different

            No doubt. Double standards are international! fellow


            Quote: Finches
            But this is only the most superficial factor!

            I’ll guess you have evidence, but you won’t show it to us because it’s secret. wassat
            1. Finches
              Finches 21 May 2021 20: 48
              -4
              And what are the secrets here - the Jews came to these lands, but the Palestinians already lived there, but the Jewish lobby at that time had a little more money and influence in the "civilized" countries of the golden billion - they pushed their rules of the game! The Arabs have never been distinguished by diplomatic flexibility, cunning - yes, but no flexibility - 2 states were created, but Egypt, Jordan and others resisted. The Jewish world lobby had enough money and influence to create a state, and the Palestinians are still landless ... ISIS ... For comparison, you would also cite Cosa Nostra, Aum Sinrike, the triad as an example - no one really recognizes them officially either, poor fellows! laughing
              1. And Us Rat
                And Us Rat 22 May 2021 00: 07
                +1
                Quote: Finches
                And what are the secrets here - the Jews came to these lands, but the Palestinians already lived there

                This is not even a delusion, but a malicious distortion of history. fellow
                1. The Jews did not stop living on this land, the Romans did not expel everyone cleanly. 10% of Israelis have a crusade lineage.
                2. "Palestinians" are the Jews who began to return to these lands since the 18th century.
                FOUR OF Israelis live on these lands IN THE TENTH generation.
                3. "Fylystyn" - an invention of the KGB of the USSR, invented in 1964, as part of subversive activities against Israel.
                4. In the 18th century, there were no Arabs in Palestine except Christians and Bedouins, who quietly became citizens of Israel and voluntarily serve in the IDF.
                Even Mark Twain, describing his journey to the holy land, wrote - lifeless swamps, Jerusalem and 2 ports (Akko and Jaffa). There were no "Arab residents" here.
                5. The so-called "fylystyntsy" are the descendants of gasterbayters from Syria and Egypt, brought by the Turks to Arabia for the construction of railways, and labor migrants who came for the sake of jobs created by Jews.

                Quote: Finches
                influence in the "civilized" countries of the golden billion

                Seriously? wassat
                Are you a conspiracy theorist? request
                Maybe you still believe in reptilian masons? belay


                Quote: Finches
                Palestinians are still landless

                Again lies. Jordan (Transjordan) and is an Arab state, according to the original plan of the League of Nations to end the mandate.



                And Palestine - according to the recognition of the same League of Nations - has ALWAYS been a JEWISH Yishuv.



                Quote: Finches
                You would...

                They would not have pulled the owl over the globe, and would have tied it up with frankly demogagic tricks. Comparison of organized crime groups with political (religious-ideological) movements is outright nonsense and a clear example of dishonest reception in rhetoric - Reductio ad absurdum. negative
                If you do not know how to conduct a worthy polemic, then have the courage to admit your bias and not fool people by pretending to be objective.
                For me, you have already merged, slipping into outright tricks. fellow
                1. Finches
                  Finches 22 May 2021 17: 53
                  0
                  This is how history is rewritten ... hi
                  1. And Us Rat
                    And Us Rat 22 May 2021 23: 50
                    -1
                    Quote: Finches
                    This is how history is rewritten ... hi

                    No, this is how it defends itself against those who had already tried to rewrite it, and in its naivety, decided that it had succeeded in this. You cannot erase the past with your anti-Semitic textbooks, the truth will always find a way to light. bully
  • Paranoid50
    Paranoid50 21 May 2021 09: 25
    0
    Quote: Finches
    Jews from Jerusalem to Birobidzhan will not go!

    Well, it's just a matter of motivation. yes laughing
    1. A. Privalov
      A. Privalov 21 May 2021 10: 25
      +5
      Quote: Paranoid50
      Well, it's just a matter of motivation.

      Namesake, why do you need Jews so hated by Russians in Birobidzhan? There, even at the best of times, there were no more than 30 thousand of them.
      Only a little Russia got rid of the Jews, just breathed a sigh of relief, so they back, and even stimulate?
      Think, maybe it is worth stimulating your Palestinian brothers, in whom the Russians, judging by the comments on VO, do not like souls?
      It seems that you have a real chance to fulfill their age-old dream - to live on the Jewish land (Jewish Autonomous Region), but without Jews. Yes, they will thank you until the grave! hi
      1. Revolver
        Revolver 21 May 2021 10: 35
        +8
        Quote: A. Privalov
        live on Jewish land (Jewish Autonomous Region), but without Jews.
        They won't last long there. There, in order to survive, you have to work. And there are no Jews, there is no one to poke a finger at "here he is, you bastard, all our troubles because of him."
  • Vitaly gusin
    Vitaly gusin 21 May 2021 09: 37
    +10
    Quote: Finches
    they simply have nowhere to go, the same applies to Hamas - Jews from Jerusalem to Birobidzhan will not go! You need to sit down and negotiate!

    Gold words.
    But Israel and Hamas have different tasks.
    Once again since 2005 in Gaza NO JEWISH
    Build your own state NO!
    Their plans to extend their influence into PA territory, (which collapsed when Abu Mazen
    canceled the elections) to destroy the current leadership and their power structures, thereby taking Israel into the ring and with the help of Hizbalah from the north and the IRGC from the east, to destroy Israel.
    To fulfill the same 21 points of the Palestinian Charter.
    The Arab people of Palestine, expressing themselves through armed revolutionary struggle, rejects any solution to the Palestinian problem, replacing its complete liberation, rejects any plans for settlement and internationalization.
    Now, after the ceasefire, the rules of the game must change.
    Presumably Israel will insist that for the restoration of Gaza, an international commission was created, which will be entrusted with the responsibility of monitoring so that the funds transferred for the restoration are not used.
    Dreams Dreams where is your sweetness?
    Dreams have passed, there is MUD!
  • Revolver
    Revolver 21 May 2021 10: 09
    +2
    Quote: Finches
    Israel needs to clearly understand to itself that Hamas will not go anywhere - they simply have nowhere to go, the same applies to Hamas - Jews from Jerusalem to Birobidzhan will not go! You need to sit down and negotiate!

    There are no options. Jews with Hamas in the same state will not get along, there is too much blood between them. If this piece of land between the Jordan and the sea is cut into 2 states, then no matter how you cut, at least one of them will not be viable, but rather both. And this means that the one that turned out to be unviable will start a war in order to become viable. So the way out is either genocide, or at least ethnic cleansing. Otherwise, there will be no peace.
  • Maz
    Maz 21 May 2021 14: 18
    -6
    Hamas continues to control the situation inside Israel - on the first day of the truce, it called for a Day of Wrath in Jerusalem and the territories.

    Hamas's main victory in this war is the split in Israeli society. Unrest in mixed cities and unprecedented support for the Arab sector of Gaza is something hitherto unprecedented in scope.

    On Friday morning, believers began to flock to the Temple Mount for prayer. Many are celebrating the "victory of Hamas" and shouting anti-Israel slogans. Jerusalem police prepare for riots on the Temple Mount and East Jerusalem.
    https://news.israelinfo.co.il/events/94990
    Whom did they defeat? Trucks went to Gaza through Israeli checkpoints with cargo, humanitarian supplies, and so on. In a tick tock video of what is happening now at the entrance to the Temple Mount ... horror. Israel defeated Hamas? - do not tell my cat.
    1. Vitaly gusin
      Vitaly gusin 21 May 2021 17: 26
      +3
      Quote: Maz
      Trucks went to Gaza through Israeli checkpoints with cargo, humanitarian supplies, and so on.

      LYING!
      This flow has always existed before.

      He just resumed after the Hamas fired at the humanitarian column, they did not want it to get to ordinary people. They take everything for themselves, and throw crumbs to the people, and when they hid, it would all go to the JUST PEOPLE.
      Quote: Maz
      do not tell my cat.

      And the cat was lucky with the owner.
      He's several times smarter, that's why he laughs.
  • Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 21 May 2021 06: 38
    0
    Weak, we didn't even fight for two weeks, missiles and money, probably, sorry.
    1. Trapp1st
      Trapp1st 21 May 2021 09: 29
      -1
      Weak, we didn't even fight for two weeks, missiles and money, probably, sorry.
      Washington OBKOM ordered.
  • Vladimir_2U
    Vladimir_2U 21 May 2021 06: 40
    +3
    And what is characteristic, during this time, not a single message about the shelling of the Israeli air force in Syria!
    1. sidoroff
      sidoroff 21 May 2021 07: 59
      +5
      a couple of times someone's NP in the Syrian part of the Golan was taken out - just no one paid there
      attention.
  • askort154
    askort154 21 May 2021 06: 44
    0
    Israel and Hamas accepted Egypt's offer and ceased fire.

    Why only Egypt? Russia and the UN also called for this.
    1. And Us Rat
      And Us Rat 21 May 2021 09: 19
      +4
      Quote: askort154
      Why only Egypt? Russia and the UN also called for this.

      There is a chasm between empty "appeals" and real mediation.
      While Russia and the UN were pushing slogans from the stands, the Egyptians worked 24/7 for all 11 days, literally spending the night on the phone with both sides, and working out schemes of unspoken points of agreement that would suit both sides.
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    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 21 May 2021 08: 13
      +5
      There were already Grads and tanks, they got snot, as always. Or do you not know the story?
  • Bshkaus
    Bshkaus 21 May 2021 07: 14
    +11
    At the same time, Hamas, having supported Egypt's proposal for a ceasefire, notes that the Israeli side, in addition to stopping its military operation, has promised to refuse to evict Arab families from Sheikh Jarah (a quarter in Jerusalem).

    The Arabs are "something" traded everywhere and always.
    When the Egyptians were preparing the equipment for the Su-35, I tried on the PPK for all pilots (17 people), the colonel, a strong and seasoned man, was the first to try on them, the rest followed with interest. They determined the size, began to measure the rest, and they inflate their bellies on purpose and almost stand on chicks, so that the dimensions are the same as those of the colonel. One began to bargain and ask for a larger size like a friend. We tried on two sizes several times. I tell him: you understand, the PPK must be small, the dimensions are prescribed in the manuals, you need a friend because not to run cross, but to keep an overload. All the same he insisted on his own. We shrugged our shoulders and in the protocol for two we wrote "the size at the request of the cadet." I have long forgotten about that case, more than a year has passed since a letter came from Egypt with a request to provide two pilots with the required size of PPK.
    The official response was accompanied by excerpts from the protocol and the approximate cost of the work. When explaining to the authorities why suddenly there was a threat of an international scandal, we did not choose words - everyone laughed)))))
    East is a delicate matter...
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 21 May 2021 21: 36
      0
      Quote: Bshkaus
      East is a delicate matter...

      Yes, Arabs, they are so Arabs ...
  • Evil 55
    Evil 55 21 May 2021 07: 40
    -7
    Hamas forced Israel to do the most important thing - to refuse to evict Arab families ... as the root cause of this spiral of eternal conflict.
    1. Murmur 55
      Murmur 55 21 May 2021 07: 50
      +2
      Israel cannot change its policy, they were not evicted, but this does not mean that others will not be affected.
      1. zlinn
        zlinn 21 May 2021 08: 24
        +6
        I assure you that these will be evicted too, the executive branch has no other way out, well, it may take a couple more months, well, maybe half a year, but hardly more, otherwise they will have to suspend all judicial execution on any issues, since this colision will be referred to as a incident, and the judicial system will, the maximum that can be done is to oblige the owners of the land to lease this land to the existing tenants for humanitarian reasons, but they will not be able to limit them to the cost of rent, this is just an economic dispute
        1. Trapp1st
          Trapp1st 21 May 2021 09: 38
          -2
          Since 1972, Jewish colonists organized into the Sephardic Community Committee and the Israel Knesset Committee have been trying to take over the homes of Palestinian families living here and build 200 housing units for Israeli settlers in the area. Based on documents dating back to the Ottoman era, the Jews initiated a series of lawsuits that ended with a decision to evict Palestinians from their homes. And the Arab population of Israel cannot bring similar claims against their ethnic cleansing property of 1948 under the Absent Property Act of 1950, which deliberately deprives them of this right. They are not covered by the Law of Return, their land and property have been expropriated several times. This is justice for the Arabs.
          1. zlinn
            zlinn 21 May 2021 09: 52
            +8
            what kind of settlers? Where do you find this dregs? we are talking about the municipal territory of Jerusalem, it is subject to the laws of Israel and the rights of Arabs who live there (the lights are either citizens of Israel or have a residence permit) are no different from the rights of Jews, understand this, and stop confusing Arabs, citizens of Israel (and holders of the residence permit) from Arabs residents of the Palestinian Authority and Arabs in general living on the territory of other Arab states
            [quote And the Arab population of Israel cannot file similar claims against their property] [/ quote]
            this is just a lie and this is evidenced by a heap of not only filed, but also won claims,
            just the submitter of such a claim must either be a citizen or with a residence permit or be on the territory of Israel on other legal grounds,
          2. Revolver
            Revolver 21 May 2021 21: 48
            0
            Quote: Trapp1st
            Based on documents dating back to the Ottoman era, the Jews initiated a series of lawsuits that ended with a decision to evict Palestinians from their homes. And the Arab population of Israel cannot bring similar claims against their ethnic cleansing property of 1948 under the Absent Property Act of 1950, which deliberately deprives them of this right.

            Don't you think it necessary to return the property to the Germans in Konigsberg? They will dig up documents of times, maybe even the Middle Ages. And, by the way, it would not be bad for me to get an apartment of my great-grandfather, a merchant of the 1st guild, with windows on the Tauride Garden. The documents of tsarist times disappeared along with their great-grandfather and great-grandmother during the years of the siege, but if you rummage in the archives, you can find it. And I would not refuse his house in Gomel, a 2-storey mansion with thick brick walls. When I was in Gomel for the last time back in Soviet times, the house was still standing. Although it burned out from the inside during the war, the walls remained, and everything else was repaired.
    2. A. Privalov
      A. Privalov 21 May 2021 08: 13
      +3
      Quote: Evil 55
      Hamas forced Israel to do the most important thing - to refuse to evict Arab families ...

      For this, Hamas fired thousands of rockets at Israel, set up the civilian population of Gaza under return fire - several hundred died, including the entire top of the command, a thousand wounded, Gaza was in ruins, tens of thousands were left homeless, a humanitarian catastrophe began there. recourse
    3. Shimshon
      Shimshon 21 May 2021 08: 21
      +8
      Again fairy tales. This is a ceasefire without an agreement. No one promised anything.
    4. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 21 May 2021 09: 11
      +5
      Quote: Evil 55
      Hamas forced Israel to do the most important thing - to refuse to evict Arab families ... as the root cause of this spiral of eternal conflict.

      This is Hamas saying
      1. avib
        avib 21 May 2021 10: 40
        0
        Quote: Krasnodar
        Quote: Evil 55
        Hamas forced Israel to do the most important thing - to refuse to evict Arab families ... as the root cause of this spiral of eternal conflict.

        This is Hamas saying



        Absolutely.
        There is a mutual ceasefire from 2:00 on Friday. No agreements, except that if anything comes from Gaza, Israel will resume bombing. I would like to believe that it will be so.
  • Xnumx vis
    Xnumx vis 21 May 2021 07: 43
    -5
    No one doubted! Hot Jewish and Palestinian guys puffed, trampled, threw stones, knocked about and .... made up! Rather, they were told we will not give Hex! Peace has come ...
    1. And Us Rat
      And Us Rat 21 May 2021 09: 26
      +3
      Quote: 30 vis
      Rather, they were told they won't give

      Egyptians? wassat
      1. Xnumx vis
        Xnumx vis 21 May 2021 09: 52
        -3
        Quote: And Us Rat
        Quote: 30 vis
        Rather, they were told they won't give

        Egyptians? wassat

        The Egyptians voiced this thought prompted to them ... You know who has a deHe!
  • Gunther
    Gunther 21 May 2021 07: 47
    -10%
    Quote: Vladimir_2U
    And what is characteristic, during this time, not a single message about the shelling of the Israeli air force in Syria!


    Palestinian guerrillas really bent over the strongest army in the region - the IDF did not have enough strength and spirit to exterminate Iranian proxies in Syria.
    It is believed that such a powerful response from Hamas to anti-Semitic pogroms in Israel and the oppression of Semitic Arabs (the squeezing of their homes in Jerusalem, the situation with the al-Aqsa mosque) is the result of a "multi-move" from Kassem Suleimani, who worked closely with Hamas, and the implementation of the IRGC's promise to counter Iran's enemies "at an unexpected time and place."
    1. sidoroff
      sidoroff 21 May 2021 08: 02
      -3
      what does the experience mean to find mnogohovochki from Volodya!
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 21 May 2021 08: 17
      +9
      You can cheat, Gaza is in rzins, hundreds of corpses, and this is called Israel bend over? Stupidity itself is not funny
      1. And Us Rat
        And Us Rat 22 May 2021 00: 56
        +3
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        You can cheat, Gaza is in rzins, hundreds of corpses, and this is called Israel bend over? Stupidity itself is not funny

        The bloodworm bent over the motorcyclist, smearing himself on the face shield. wassat
    3. [comment-show]
      tlauicol
      tlauicol 21 May 2021 08: 20
      +5
      [/B]
      Quote: Gunter
      Quote: Vladimir_2U


      [b] Palestinian guerrillas really bent over the strongest army in the region
      - the IDF did not have enough strength and spirit to spread rot on Iranian proxies in Syria.
      Hamas' powerful response to anti-Semitic pogroms in Israel (the situation with the al-Aqsa mosque) this is the result of a "multi-move" from Kassem Suleimani, who worked closely with Hamas, and the implementation of the IRGC's promise to counter the enemies of Iran.

      - Is there a doctor in the hall?
      - what happened ?!
      - Colleague, what the fuck did we just read?
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  • Murmur 55
    Murmur 55 21 May 2021 07: 48
    +2
    Really good, the next circle has passed, now some need to improve the stock of missiles and their quality, others again need to update intelligence, recruit new agents, and so on in a circle. Everything will end there only with the complete victory of one of the parties (unfortunately) and this is how I wrote genocide before.
  • atalef
    atalef 21 May 2021 07: 50
    +11
    At the same time, Hamas, having supported Egypt's proposal for a ceasefire, notes that the Israeli side, in addition to stopping its military operation, has promised to refuse to evict Arab families from Sheikh Jarah (a quarter in Jerusalem). The agreements reached on the Temple Mount are also added. But in the Israeli media they write that apart from the ceasefire, Israel did not undertake any additional obligations.

    Hamas is just death as you want to show. that they have achieved something and all that they once again plunged the gas into - not in vain.
    but alas - there are no agreements and will not be.
    The Arabs will be evicted as it was decided by the court. and no one, including the prime minister or the army, has power over him. private property in Israel is not unshakable. and the Arabs do not occupy these houses legally. more precisely, they rent and do not pay.
    On the temple mount? it is not at all clear what the speech is about. the status quo has remained so.
    The fact that they will puff their cheeks and scream about victory is understandable, they scream about it every time - if you count all their victories, then they should have won at least half of the globe, and nothing should have been left of us for a long time ... laughing
    1. Vitaly gusin
      Vitaly gusin 21 May 2021 09: 08
      +7
      Quote: atalef
      The fact that they will puff out their cheeks and scream about victory is understandable, they yell about it every time - if you count all their victories

      This time was somewhat different.
      Usually a few minutes before the time of the ceasefire, they launched a massive missile launch. Israel did not want to answer, so as not to violate, after that Hamas made one more launches and said that the connection was broken and did not know about the ceasefire, and after that they organized rallies on the ruins. WE VICTORY.
      This time, an hour before the ceasefire, the planes were laughing over Gaza, the Egyptians warned that if there is a repetition of the past, a powerful blow will be instantly struck and the operation will continue.
      Was not produced NO START and the planes returned to their bases.
    2. Revolver
      Revolver 21 May 2021 21: 59
      -1
      Quote: atalef
      if we count all their victories, then they should have won at least half of the globe, and nothing should have been left of us for a long time.

      Yes, there are perhaps even more Hamas victories than Ukrainian victories, only for some reason they are corked in Gaza like in a bottle, and even there they are hiding more and more in tunnels and bunkers in the basements of hospitals.
  • steelmaker
    steelmaker 21 May 2021 09: 03
    -9
    Here you go. Israel received the stigma and immediately agreed to an armistice. And how about Syria said: "Bombed and we will bomb." They are fighting on the side of ISIS insolently. They did not strike a single blow at the terrorists, because they themselves are a country of terrorists!
    1. Vitaly gusin
      Vitaly gusin 21 May 2021 11: 27
      +8
      Quote: steel maker
      Here you go. Israel received the stigma and immediately agreed to an armistice.

      You may be an excellent steelmaker, but you are not a successful propagandist and anti-Semite.
      On the 3rd day of the war, Hamas asked Egypt for a ceasefire, and on the 8th day it turned to Russia to arrange a ceasefire.
      The IDF has a plan for the complete disarmament of Gaza, which will cause huge casualties among the civilian population of Gaza. After Baydan's fourth appeal with a request to curtail hostilities, Israel agreed that ONLY Egypt would be an intermediary and only a ceasefire without any agreements, i.e. for any action to cause damage, Israel will continue the military operation.
      Quote: steel maker
      And how about Syria they said: “We bombed and we will bomb.

      And no one refused.
      Any delivery of missiles or parts to Syria for Hezbollah from Iran, WILL BE DESTROYED
  • Shahno
    Shahno 21 May 2021 10: 44
    +4
    Quote: A. Privalov
    Quote: Finches
    You need to sit down and negotiate!



    Yesterday, I already explained why this is impossible. I will repeat for you .:
    Article 21 of the Palestinian Charter does not allow them to conduct any negotiations.

    .
    The Arab people of Palestine, expressing themselves through armed revolutionary struggle, rejects any solution to the Palestinian problem that replaces it full release, rejects any plans for settlement and internationalization.


    Do you understand well what is written here, or do you need a translation from the office?

    Already on May 12, Hamas, through all its channels, was looking for a connection with any intermediaries who would help stop the Israeli shelling. The Egyptians, (Israel has long-standing good relations with the local security forces), took up this difficult task. All these days, they have been making a titanic effort to this - they offered various options for terms and agreements. Finally, the long-awaited ceasefire.
    What do we have as a result?
    In the Gaza Strip, Hamas leaders announced a convincing victory over the "Zionist enemy."

    Point.

    Not a bad victory ... A third of the military potential of the Islamists has been destroyed.
    Approximately another month remained before the complete defeat of Hamas ...
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 21 May 2021 12: 24
      +2
      Hamas cannot be destroyed - as the Arabs say: the donkey will leave, the mare will come.
      Bread Franchise - Hamas
      1. Revolver
        Revolver 21 May 2021 22: 05
        +2
        Quote: Krasnodar
        Hamas cannot be destroyed - as the Arabs say: the donkey will leave, the mare will come.
        Bread Franchise - Hamas
        They have donkeys, mares, goats, and sheep, although in America they believe that Arabs are most of all not indifferent to camels. They are even called the completely politically incorrect, racist, and xenophobic expression camel humpers.
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 21 May 2021 22: 29
          +1
          The Americans are very wrong. Arabs are mostly donkey humpers
          1. Revolver
            Revolver 22 May 2021 01: 54
            +1
            Quote: Krasnodar
            The Americans are very wrong. Arabs are mostly donkey humpers

            Sexual orientation and gender self-identification is a very difficult matter, especially in the Arab world, where the rich have four wives, not counting the stables, and the poor may not even have a goat. lol
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 22 May 2021 02: 38
              +1
              Have not taken into account relatives of the same gender - I'm serious
              1. Revolver
                Revolver 22 May 2021 02: 46
                0
                Quote: Krasnodar
                Relatives of a kind were not taken into account - I'm serious

                Then scientists found out in the study of the genome that the pubic louse, yes, the one with the letter "M", well, sooo distantly related to head and clothing lice, so much so that they cannot have offspring with them. But she is also the closest relative of gorilla lice. So I wonder if there was a change of carriers when the Arabs entered Africa?
                1. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 22 May 2021 05: 19
                  0
                  Theoretically, it is possible))
  • Shahno
    Shahno 21 May 2021 10: 47
    +3
    Quote: A. Privalov
    Quote: Paranoid50
    Well, it's just a matter of motivation.

    Namesake, why do you need Jews so hated by Russians in Birobidzhan? There, even at the best of times, there were no more than 30 thousand of them.
    Only a little Russia got rid of the Jews, just breathed a sigh of relief, so they back, and even stimulate?
    Think, maybe it is worth stimulating your Palestinian brothers, in whom the Russians, judging by the comments on VO, do not like souls?
    It seems that you have a real chance to fulfill their age-old dream - to live on the Jewish land (Jewish Autonomous Region), but without Jews. Yes, they will thank you until the grave! hi

    # Namesake, why do you need Jews so hated by Russians in Birobidzhan #
    You must be friends against someone ..
  • Professor
    Professor 21 May 2021 11: 06
    +4
    At the same time, Hamas, having supported Egypt's proposal for a ceasefire, notes that the Israeli side, in addition to stopping its military operation, has promised to refuse to evict Arab families from Sheikh Jarah (a quarter in Jerusalem).

    What is this nonsense? Eviction is carried out by court order and the government has nothing to do with it.
    It's hard for some to understand, but we have a separation of powers.

    The Israeli press writes that the main security forces of the country, including the chief of the General Staff, the head of the National Security Council and the leadership of the Mossad, unanimously recommended that the government stop the military operation.

    The Mossad has nothing to do with Gaza. This is Shabak territory.
  • fa2998
    fa2998 21 May 2021 11: 58
    +6
    Quote: Ingvar 72
    ... It is the Jews who populate the Arab territories, and not vice versa. Is it not because the Arabs hate the Jews so much that they are squeezing them out of their land?

    Well, okay, the Arabs already have problems with education, but you are the same! What Arabs in Palestine! There are Jews living for SEVERAL MILLENNIUM! Their neighbors are Hittites, Egyptians (real, not modern), Phoenicians, Persians, etc. centuries BC Arabs in those places appeared in the 5th century A.D.! So who settled the foreign territories? request request
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 21 May 2021 22: 11
      +2
      Quote: fa2998
      Egyptians (real, not modern)

      These also remained in Egypt. They are called Copts, and they are a discriminated minority. Copts are mostly Christians, they have their own separate Coptic church from everyone, both Catholics and Orthodox. Muslim Arabs press them harshly, but they somehow manage to survive, and some even achieve considerable success.
      1. fa2998
        fa2998 22 May 2021 07: 14
        -1
        Well, I don't know, THOSE who built the pyramids were definitely not Christians (there were enough of their gods)
        1. Revolver
          Revolver 22 May 2021 09: 42
          +2
          Quote: fa2998
          Those who built the pyramids were definitely not Christians

          And their distant descendants were baptized. Then Egypt was part of the Roman Empire, and when Emperor Constantine appointed Christianity as the state religion, it became very unprofitable to remain in paganism. And then the Muslim Arabs came and the Christians began to spread rot.
          1. fa2998
            fa2998 22 May 2021 09: 47
            +1
            Dear Nagan, I love history too, but that's not the point. It's about WHO FIRST COME TO PALESTINE-Jews or Arabs-Muslims. Answer one-Jews ... hi
            1. Revolver
              Revolver 22 May 2021 09: 49
              +1
              Unfortunately, they don't give more than one plus. hi
  • iouris
    iouris 21 May 2021 13: 00
    -2
    Judging by the illustration, an article on an erotic topic.
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 21 May 2021 23: 41
      0
      Do not flatter yourself, it will not. And if it does, then definitely not for you. And she, most likely, will send you on a walking erotic tour.
  • Shahno
    Shahno 21 May 2021 13: 49
    +4
    Quote: Krasnodar
    Hamas cannot be destroyed - as the Arabs say: the donkey will leave, the mare will come.
    Bread Franchise - Hamas

    Military means, of course, this radical project cannot be destroyed .... But it was possible to deprive them of the opportunity to attack Israel as much as possible. And then we can talk, bring in international forces, whatever.
    Ps. In my opinion, this half-heartedness in the use of force is not justified.
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 21 May 2021 23: 59
      0
      Quote: Shahno
      Quote: Krasnodar
      Hamas cannot be destroyed - as the Arabs say: the donkey will leave, the mare will come.
      Bread Franchise - Hamas

      Military means, of course, this radical project cannot be destroyed .... But it was possible to deprive them of the opportunity to attack Israel as much as possible. And then we can talk, bring in international forces, whatever.
      Ps. In my opinion, this half-heartedness in the use of force is not justified.

      I agree - Gaza must be occupied and, having disarmed them from heavy weapons, finding a technical solution to smuggling from Egypt (like a canal along the border), quickly get out. Make Gaza Island. New Singapore.
      1. Revolver
        Revolver 22 May 2021 02: 28
        +2
        Quote: Krasnodar
        Make Gaza Island. New Singapore.

        With this population? Not in life. More like a new Easter Island. Only those natives squandered all the resources of the island on statues of stone heads, and these will spend on missiles and martyrs' belts. And the compassionate world community will not let them waste, will again and again throw resources at them.
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 22 May 2021 02: 38
          +1
          Rather yes than no
  • Synoid
    Synoid 21 May 2021 15: 34
    -3
    And so are the results.
    The Palestinians have achieved their goals (according to the article).
    Israel revealed intelligence incompetence and missile defense shortcomings, also a result.
    Both parties to the conflict agreed to a ceasefire, although recently many have argued foaming at the mouth that the operation will be carried on until the last Hamas man.
    The bottom line: casualties on both sides, infrastructure destroyed, image losses.
    I agree with those who believe that it is necessary to resolve the conflict through negotiations.
    1. Vitaly gusin
      Vitaly gusin 21 May 2021 18: 02
      +7
      Quote: Synoid
      The Palestinians have achieved their goals (according to the article).

      Believe not believe it's your business
      Quote: Synoid
      Israel reveals intelligence incompetence

      Destroy 100 km of underground city tunnels with missile depots, communications equipment and missile control, all in the most densely populated area in the world. Destruction of 20 top commanders, some in bed, some underground, some in a car, destruction of three torpedoes and much more
      Is it intelligence incompetence?
      Quote: Synoid
      and disadvantages in missile defense,

      Over 11 days of the military operation, 4000 missiles of various strengths and ranges were fired into Israel
      Killed 14 people
      1 military
      4 foreign workers did not understand how to behave during a missile attack.
      3 elderly people, from a heart attack
      6 people from being hit by rockets.
      ZhK intercepted 90-92% of missiles aimed at built-up areas and saved hundreds of lives Israelis and thousand lives residents of Gaza. If it were not for the JK and Israel's response would have been completely different.
      Try not to write what you don't own.
      1. Revolver
        Revolver 22 May 2021 02: 34
        +2

        And this is how adequate Americans perceive the situation and inadequate Americans.
        1. Vitaly gusin
          Vitaly gusin 22 May 2021 08: 55
          0
          Quote: Nagan
          And this is how adequate Americans perceive the situation and inadequate Americans.

          You can’t put a scarf on each mouth.
  • Shahno
    Shahno 22 May 2021 01: 58
    +3
    Quote: Gunter
    Quote: Vladimir_2U
    And what is characteristic, during this time, not a single message about the shelling of the Israeli air force in Syria!


    Palestinian guerrillas really bent over the strongest army in the region - the IDF did not have enough strength and spirit to exterminate Iranian proxies in Syria.
    It is believed that such a powerful response from Hamas to anti-Semitic pogroms in Israel and the oppression of Semitic Arabs (the squeezing of their homes in Jerusalem, the situation with the al-Aqsa mosque) is the result of a "multi-move" from Kassem Suleimani, who worked closely with Hamas, and the implementation of the IRGC's promise to counter Iran's enemies "at an unexpected time and place."

    To be honest, for Israel, it's like a bug bite for a unicorn .... Don't flatter yourself.