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UAZ-469: legends are not born

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An early prototype of the UAZ-460. Source: drom.ru


Timeless and out of competition


UAZ-469 or "UAZ" or "goat" cannot be called the most ancient car produced today. The undisputed palm belongs to the elder sister of the UAZ-450A "Bukhanka", whose conveyor life began back in 1958. Now all-wheel drive minibuses and cars based on it have a specific name UAZ SGR (old cargo range) and formally do not belong to passenger cars. It's all about the strict requirements of the state regarding the safety of the structure. The introduction of airbags and the obligatory ERA-Glonass system would require a large-scale redrawing of the structure from UAZ engineers, so it was decided to follow the path of least resistance and designate all "loaves" and "goats" as N2019G category trucks in 1.

UAZ-469: legends are not born
UAZ-450A 1958. Conceptually, this car is still on the assembly line in Ulyanovsk. Source: uazbuka.ru

The anti-lock braking system still had to be installed, but we managed to get rid of all the other "options". Interestingly, in 2014, it was proposed to transport all classic UAZ vehicles to the category of tractors and special equipment. But they changed their minds in time, since the buyer would have to obtain the tractor driver's license and beware of going out onto public roads.

All-wheel drive vans and UAZ trucks are quite possibly the oldest mass-produced cars now - this year the construction will hit 63 years old! But today's protagonist stories there will be UAZ-469, which, along with the heirs of the Ural-375, also belongs to the oldest vehicles of the Russian army. The main reason why the design has not changed on a very large scale over half a century is still the same - the lack of competition and the omnipotent defense order. Here you can draw parallels with ... a tank T-34. During the war years, it could be repeatedly and rather seriously modernized, significantly increasing its effectiveness on the battlefield. But the requirements of continuous supply to the front for a long time only allowed to optimize and simplify the production process. Until the Wehrmacht had heavy tanks, which could be compared with a local military disaster, there was no talk of any fundamental improvements in the T-34 design. And only in 1944, in response to thick Teutonic armor and powerful shells, the T-34-85 appeared in the Red Army. It is mistakenly called the Victory Tank, while its predecessor, the T-34-76, bore the main burdens of the war. In the history of the UAZ-469, thank God, there were no total wars, but it was also very difficult to satisfy the needs of the USSR army and allies. Therefore, they were in no hurry to invest in a large-scale improvement of the characteristics of the car in Ulyanovsk until the end of the 80s. However, they were in no hurry to put the car into mass production.

Soviet long-term construction


UAZ-469 became the successor to the world-famous GAZ-69. And this is not an exaggeration. The Soviet Union exported the 69th car to 56 countries, which were often united by one thing - an extremely undeveloped road network. The simplicity of the design, which makes it possible to repair the car in any rural garage, also added advantages to the karma of the GAZ-69. The amazing survivability of the vehicles, the production of which ceased in 1972, is evidenced by the fact that the Russian army was withdrawn from service only in 1994. Almost all the years of the conveyor life of the GAZ-69 was produced in Ulyanovsk on the backup of the Gorky Automobile Plant - UAZ. In the USSR, there was such a tradition - every large automobile plant engaged in the defense sector (read - everything) had to have a double. In many ways, this was a preparation for wartime, as well as a solution to the problem of chronic overload with orders of the main production facilities. Later, this distribution of responsibilities revealed a lot of positive things. GAZ has grown a wonderful backup UAZ, MAZ has a Kurgan Wheel Tractor Plant, ZIL has a Bryansk Automobile Plant, and so on.


GAZ-69 is the ideological predecessor of the UAZ-469. Source: ru.cars.photo

The Ulyanovsk plant as creatively as he could rethink the design of the machine from Gorky. In 1970, the all-terrain vehicle received bridges from the UAZ-452 truck - one might say that this is how the bonneted car was gradually transformed into the future UAZ-469. There were attempts to create on the basis of the 69th "goat" and completely exotic cars. So, in the early 60s, a small car was integrated with a dump body and even equipped with a semitrailer for 2 tons of cargo. They tried to deal with the chronic shortage of machines with a carrying capacity of 1 to 2 tons. By the way, this problem could not be properly solved until the collapse of the Soviet Union.












Examples of "amateur performance" of UAZ engineers on the example of a borrowed design of the GAZ-69. Source: ru.cars.photo

All the tricks with the well-deserved design of the GAZ-69 in Ulyanovsk went in parallel with the development and testing of the new generation all-terrain vehicle UAZ-469. For the first time, the idea of ​​creating a new car to replace the one obtained from Gorky at the UAZ made sense in 1956. It was then, according to the future chief designer of theme 469 Lev Adrianovich Startsev, that the idea of ​​creating a cabover SUV with an engine in the stern and with a monocoque body was born. The military rejected the idea, as the cabover-free "Loaf" UAZ-450A was on the way, and the structure was considered not the most durable. And rightly so - plainly undeveloped solutions such as a monocoque body could be costly in future operation.


The very first sketches of the future Ulyanovsk SUV. Mid 50s. Source: drom.ru

The very first prototype of the future car, which we know as the UAZ-469, was an all-terrain vehicle with an index of 460. It is noteworthy that the requirements for the new car were presented by several departments at once - the Ministry of Internal Affairs, Forestry, NAMI, Research Institute of Automobile Transport and, of course, the main customer - Ministry of Defence. The requirements varied somewhat, but one thing was clear - a more spacious, passable, reliable and load-lifting all-terrain vehicle was needed than the GAZ-69.




UAZ-460. Source: drom.ru

UAZ-460, which meets most of the requirements, turned out to be ugly. He also did not have the most trivial door arrangement. On the left side there were two doors, and on the right side there was only one to make room for a spare wheel. In total, the car had four doors with a gate in the stern. Later, a car with the usual five doors joined the tests. The main issue was the design of the SUV's suspension. Military customers insisted on an independent torsion bar suspension, but for its time it turned out to be difficult and unreliable. Prototypes withstood a given ground clearance of 345 mm only with a driver and a passenger, and further load caused serious subsidence and, as a result, a decrease in geometric cross-country ability. By the way, due to its high carrying capacity, the UAZ-469 is considered to be prone to "goats". To solve the problem of ground clearance under load, they decided to put the suspension harder. As a result, a real "goat" feels good mainly with five riders and a loaded trailer or even a light artillery piece. But back to testing prototypes of the late 50s. As mentioned, the torsion bar suspension proved to be a capricious unit, and the choice initially fell on a car with a classic dependent leaf spring suspension. To increase the ground clearance, it was decided to equip the axles with gearboxes.


Land Rover Series I in comparison with the GAZ-69 and UAZ-460 tests showed itself not very well. 1959 year. Source: drom.ru


The Sachsenring P460 from the GDR worked as an analogue for testing the prototype of the UAZ-3. Source: wikimedia.org

For comparative tests of a pair of UAZ-460 with gear axles and torsion bar suspension, a foreign analogue was involved, which had already become famous for its remarkable cross-country ability - the English Land Rover Series I. He participated in field work and the retiring GAZ-69. It was the very starting point that allows us to understand how much better than its predecessor UAZ. "Englishman" showed himself in the tests of the late 50s - early 60s not in the best way. Affected by the relatively low ground clearance and low suspension travel. In the mud, Land Rover sat on bridges earlier than Ulyanovsk cars, was unable to overcome the 250-mm track diagonally and was powerless before a dirt ascent with a steepness of 36 degrees. The German SUV Sachsenring P3 with an independent torsion bar suspension took part in some stages of the tests, but it got out of the field in time, destroying the flimsy suspension of the left side on a piece of water pipe sticking out of the ground. The UAZ-460 with springs proved to be the best, but its cross-country ability was still insufficient for military customers. The all-terrain vehicle did not go well on a wet meadow, had low suspension travels, which is why it often hung the wheels on the slopes of the terrain. The UAZ-460 did not cope with virgin snow in the best way. As a result, the engineers had to go into design work for a year and a half and in 1962 presented an updated prototype with the legendary 469 index.

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  1. Asad
    Asad 23 May 2021 05: 05
    +8
    Was in possession for some time, reliability is certainly not enough. But off-road as an inexpensive option with no options.
    1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
      Kote Pan Kokhanka 23 May 2021 06: 16
      +16
      Quote: ASAD
      Was in possession for some time, reliability is certainly not enough. But off-road as an inexpensive option with no options.

      As it is now fashionable to say, he was "the operator of such a device" from 1997 to 2010. UAZ-3519 solid metal chickens, on springs, military bridges - I do not regret a bit. Broke down - yes, but was repaired on the knee. A couple of times passing strangers helped with this! Most importantly, a set of tools and a hammer, a supply of belts and hoses with sealant.
      Cool car, I still regret that I went on about my wife and sold it. crying
      1. Intruder
        Intruder 23 May 2021 07: 21
        +13
        UAZ-3519 solid metal chickens, on springs, military bridges - I do not regret a bit.
        An excellent version, my father had one, parents also sold them later due to age, they stopped going to the forest and taiga, but there were military bridges on it, the cross-country ability in our Siberian realities was at the level of a tank, especially when he also dragged a trailer behind itself, plus an electric winch on the front end always helped, and where he could not crawl through and literally go through with homemade chains (with welded-on blades of soil hooks), only a helicopter could fly and sit on a limited area ... Excellent cars, and fantastic maintainability , especially in difficult conditions far from service and in general people in the steppe and taiga !!!
    2. mihub
      mihub 24 May 2021 15: 51
      +1
      I agree, everything is fine, but it lacks reliability.
  2. Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 23 May 2021 05: 09
    +8
    For its time, the car is good, but I think it lacked a 2,5-3,0 liter diesel engine.
    1. Intruder
      Intruder 23 May 2021 07: 25
      +4
      it lacked a 2,5-3,0 liter diesel engine.
      she would have a diesel engine - up to 2.0 litas would be enough, the main thing would be to install another razdatka and, in general, revise the entire transmission, plus other bridges ...
    2. Kote Pan Kokhanka
      Kote Pan Kokhanka 23 May 2021 07: 32
      +8
      Quote: Pessimist22
      For its time, the car is good, but I think it lacked a 2,5-3,0 liter diesel engine.

      And now there is not enough!
      The only reason I don’t buy UAZ-Hunter.
      1. SovAr238A
        SovAr238A 24 May 2021 12: 52
        +1
        Quote: Kote Pan Kokhanka
        Quote: Pessimist22
        For its time, the car is good, but I think it lacked a 2,5-3,0 liter diesel engine.

        And now there is not enough!
        The only reason I don’t buy UAZ-Hunter.


        You probably just do not know that the Hunters are with diesels. like candy wrappers ...

        UAZ put 2 diesels on Hunters.
        ZMZ-51432 (2.4L) is quite an excellent diesel engine.
        I have such machines produced in 2016 and have stood for 4 years in the port and bought out in 2019 - with round-the-clock operation "along the pipe" they covered 300-350-400 thousand kilometers in one year !!!
        Only the vacuum cleaner died at 50-100 thousand - changed to a new version and forward ...
        And 400 thousand km per year is a very worthy operation.
        And I had 12 such cars.

        Also, Polish diesel engines Andoria 4C90 were installed on the Hunters.
        I don't know anything about them.
        1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
          Kote Pan Kokhanka 24 May 2021 19: 05
          +1
          In 2020, I was looking for a new one, they said they do not produce it in the salons.
    3. TANKISTONE
      TANKISTONE 26 May 2021 22: 37
      +1
      Pessimist22 (Igor)
      For its time, the car is good, but I think it lacked a 2,5-3,0 liter diesel engine.
      At one time (2001) we had the following in our underground mining services: [media = http: //www.uazbuka.ru/engine/eng_Andoria.html]
  3. Free wind
    Free wind 23 May 2021 05: 59
    +21
    Judging by the photo, the UAZ does not have a small suspension travel, it does not exist at all. The Land Rover was considered a very passable car, its descendants are produced in many countries of the world, the same Kruzak is his great-grandson. Permeability is largely dependent on tires and blockages. In the photo, Rover has road tires, there can be no talk of cross-country ability. The goats had no locks on the axles, the Rovers had rear axles with locking, and the rear axles were completely free of deferentials. UAZs have never had this. Maintainability, this is bullshit, I don't know who invented it. Replacing a wheel, or rewinding the wires with electrical tape, is not repair at all, as ardent patriots imagine. And try in the taiga to find a bridge to the UAZka, and bridges tore up quite often, and replace it in a swamp. Well, if only they are lying in their dens and a bear will help you. In the event of an accident, the ultrasound scan does not leave any chances for the driver and the passenger, the legs are guaranteed to be torn off. It’s interesting to ride, I don’t argue, I drove in, there was a case .. And I wonder what kind of downfall came to the head to install the battery in the car? In the farmer he stands in the salon. Does anyone accidentally know the name of this figure? A rope around his neck. During the explosion of a battery, a girl familiar, doused her head with acid.
    1. mat-vey
      mat-vey 23 May 2021 06: 03
      +8
      Quote: Free Wind
      In the farmer he stands in the salon. Does anyone accidentally know the name of this figure?

      I join. I would also like to see this "genius".
      1. Roman_vh
        Roman_vh 24 May 2021 10: 36
        -1
        The Stool has a battery under the driver's seat and what?
        1. mat-vey
          mat-vey 24 May 2021 12: 41
          0
          Quote: Roman_VH
          The Stool has a battery under the driver's seat and what?

          And what is he sitting there? Did you see him? Did you manage to take a picture?
          YOU MAY NEED TO CAREFULLY READ THE POST BEFORE YOU WRITE ANSWER?
          Quote: mat-vey
          I join. I would also like to see this "genius".

          And not anything - they didn't even go broke for a box with a lid ..
          Only not "under", but "next" ..
    2. Kot_Kuzya
      Kot_Kuzya 23 May 2021 07: 31
      0
      Quote: Free Wind
      The Land Rover was considered a very passable car, its descendants are produced in many countries of the world, the same Kruzak is his great-grandson

      Don't write nonsense. Rover is a British car, and Kruzak is Japanese, they have nothing to do with each other at all. Moreover, they were created independently of each other, the first prototype of the Rover was built in 1947 in England, and serial production began in 1948, while the Cruiser began to be developed in 1950 and went into series a year later after the start of the Korean War and the receipt of an American order. for a new SUV to replace Willis.
      Quote: Free Wind
      And I wonder what down came to the head to install the battery in the car? In the farmer he stands in the salon. Does anyone accidentally know the name of this figure? A rope around his neck. During the explosion of a battery, a girl familiar, poured acid on her head.

      In Japanese trucks and vans, the battery is also in the cabin behind the passenger seat. But for some reason no one considers this a disadvantage, it seems that some characters are allowed to criticize only the "wrong" countries.
      1. Free wind
        Free wind 23 May 2021 08: 12
        +8
        The Yapi bought several Rovers and in fact received a license for production for nothing, carefully studied everything and began to make their cars, for their realities, for the beginning of the VJ, and then the Corners, starting with the fortieth series. In Japan, in fact, at that time, they copied everything, then Korea passed this way and cheerfully chewed China. After the war, it was forbidden to make military products for the Yapam. It is forbidden to put batteries in salons all over the world, acid fumes and explosion hazard.
        1. Theodore
          Theodore 24 May 2021 04: 30
          0
          Are there BMWs? Are standing! Where is the howl?
          1. mat-vey
            mat-vey 25 May 2021 03: 57
            +1
            Quote: Theodore
            Are there BMWs? Are standing! Where is the howl?

            Maybe not everyone is so worried about the German car industry? Many are closer for their country ..
    3. Intruder
      Intruder 23 May 2021 07: 35
      +12
      And try to find a bridge to the UAZ in the taiga, and bridges tore up quite often, and replace it in a swamp. Well, if only they are lying in their dens and a bear will help you. In the event of an accident, the ultrasound scan does not leave any chances for the driver and the passenger, the legs are guaranteed to be torn off.
      You have a bad personal experience with these machines to tear bridges in the swamp ..., or, as in that saying: "make ... one" person "to pray to God ..." !? How many I drove on these machines, both on loose and on all sour soils, with long climbs on rocky slopes, where the slope is at 35 degrees ..., there was no ... if you do not tear the car on something with a hurry ... but help her with your head and hands, plus once in the taiga they got lost and 50 km., dragged for two days on an electric winch, waist-deep in a soggy slurry .. it was extreme, but UAZ, like KAMAZ .., chkhal on the mud .. , for the brutal "smelly" men with sweat .. and "they like comfortable panties - BMW" yes , and in the baggage room - they always took "loose powder" for bridges, up to bolts and washers, otherwise within a radius of 300 km, not a living soul, except for stray hunters and other lovers of Siberian wildlife, but apart from bears and wolves ... here, himself and a mechanic technician and a suspension specialist ... drinks
      1. Free wind
        Free wind 23 May 2021 08: 23
        +5
        The so-called military bridges, with final drives, began to be installed not from a good life, but to unload the bridge gearbox at least a little. paying at the same time with the increased consumption of benzyl. Do you know what flow rate? And 15 liters per hundred at least, this is if you go downhill and with a favorable wind on the highway.
        1. vl903
          vl903 23 May 2021 10: 19
          +9
          mixed everything into a heap. the expense for the military of the USSR did not matter much. well, only in terms of logistics and range. unloading the gearbox and increasing cross-country ability is a normal engineering move. tanks were also done. the resource on military equipment should not be large, it should be optimal. that is, the UAZ was made under the terms of reference. the Kruzak also had durability in the assignment, as it was for the civilian export market. and a book came to the UAZ, according to which a conscript soldier could repair a car in the field or in a regular garage. another question is that now the state should buy UAZ for the army, police, etc. in the full life cycle, for 20 years, only this will make effective managers not ditch the design with savings. precisely the state, because otherwise it will remain without an economy and will be captured by another state. in the country there is 469, 1972, collective farmer. an ingenious machine in terms of a complex of properties of simplicity and efficiency. the only thing that can be added to it, as mentioned above, is the old Japanese reliability. apparently by making a number of parts from more expensive steels, as the same Japanese did.
        2. Intruder
          Intruder 23 May 2021 10: 40
          0
          and at least slightly relieve the axle gearbox. paying at the same time with increased consumption of benzyl.
          In the course of this, you will not believe ... laughing
          And 15 liters per hundred at least, this is if you go downhill and with a favorable wind on the highway.
          Well, yes, there is a load on the axle gearbox, here everyone chooses for themselves and according to their wallet, and to combine low consumption with gearboxes and plus up to a heap and four-wheel drive, this is from the field: "shove - not crammed" into the car ... and this is not yet the biggest drawback, but throw in a few cans of gasoline to increase the range on the journey, 15 liters per hundred ... not the most biting consumption, even on the highway, you still need to take a supply of fuel with you so as not to look later somewhere there is a gas station, behind the fogs of forest roads ... wink
        3. Lynx2000
          Lynx2000 23 May 2021 11: 43
          +1
          Quote: Free Wind
          The so-called military bridges, with final drives, began to be installed not from a good life, but to unload the bridge gearbox at least a little. paying at the same time with the increased consumption of benzyl. Do you know what flow rate? And 15 liters per hundred at least, this is if you go downhill and with a favorable wind on the highway.

          Portal bridges are considered high-torque, which is good for off-road, not for motorways. The torque load is distributed between the gears of the main pair and the final drives, not like on a conventional axle. As the saying goes, in mud-mud there is less chance of "breaking the bridge". Break the teeth in the main pair, cut off the axle shafts ... In addition, the axle housing is smaller and higher from the ground (it is usually the lowest point of the SUV to the ground).
          The production and selling price of a portal bridge is more expensive than usual.
          When my brother bought a Pajero2 turbodiesel 4M40, complained that "Subaru does not go", slowly accelerates, rolls around corners, I asked him: I bought it for work, or for racing? Buy Supra.
        4. Kote Pan Kokhanka
          Kote Pan Kokhanka 23 May 2021 14: 56
          +5
          Quote: Free Wind
          And 15 liters per hundred at least, this is if you go downhill and with a favorable wind on the highway.

          The first thing I did in my time was changing the carburetor to "solitovskiy". Instead of 17 liters, the UAZ began to eat 12. However, what can you say the praised Kruzak Prado eats 20 and asks for a supplement.
        5. Roman_vh
          Roman_vh 24 May 2021 10: 44
          +1
          The gearbox was installed due to the request of the warriors. UAZ had to follow the URAL track (ZIL-157 or 131). The old UAZs had no problems with collective farm bridges. What is there to tear the engine consumptive. And when they put in a more powerful dvigun, and the bridges were not counted, plus a catastrophic drop in the quality of the bridges themselves.
          Somehow
    4. nerd.su
      nerd.su 23 May 2021 15: 12
      0
      In some ways you are right, of course ...
      But!
      Quote: Free Wind
      And try to find a bridge to the UAZ in the taiga, and bridges tore up quite often, and replace it in a swamp.

      I will not discuss about "bridges tore up quite often." I have never heard of it, but I don’t pretend to be a great experience either. But finding a bridge from a Land Rover in the taiga will be much more difficult. There is a good set of spare parts for UAZ in any regional center, while for most foreign cars - not in every regional center.
      1. QWERTY
        QWERTY 23 May 2021 18: 38
        +3
        This is nonsense, about repairing an UAZ anywhere. Few services generally undertake to repair it, because it is squalor. In the regional center it may be repaired for you, but in a month. Nobody has any spare parts for this bucket, including dealers. I'm not talking about wiper blades and nuts. You will wait for a handout for a loaf in the regional center for at least three days, if the regional center is nearby. Satanic offspring of the Ulyanovsk plant, they do not release them, they seem to call them through pentagrams. And by the way, have you seen the current price of a loaf? The period of more or less normal operation is six months. Then everything begins to pour in. The only reason that this squalor is still being bought is the absence of foreign counterparts at reasonable prices.
        1. nerd.su
          nerd.su 23 May 2021 21: 04
          0
          Quote: ytsuken
          This is nonsense, about repairing an UAZ anywhere. Few services generally undertake to repair it, because it is squalor.

          Actually, I meant the availability of spare parts in stores. And repair on your own. If your bridge is torn in a swamp, no service will go to you, neither the regional nor the regional.
          Quote: ytsuken
          In the regional center it may be repaired for you, but in a month.

          In most regional centers, you can have it repaired for a month, even if you have spare parts. Five-day working week, working day from 8 to 17, holidays, etc. Therefore, if you are in a hurry, then on your own.
          Quote: ytsuken
          And by the way, have you seen the current price of a loaf?

          I see food prices every day, so I'm not surprised at anything.

          Quote: ytsuken
          The period of more or less normal operation is six months. Then everything begins to pour in.

          Actually, we got out all the jambs in six months, we fixed them under warranty and then worked for two years more or less, taking into account that this is a domestic car. Either you were unlucky with the team that collected the loaf, or it was not the bobbin ...
          Quote: ytsuken
          The only reason that this squalor is still being bought is the absence of foreign counterparts at reasonable prices.

          The main reason is the lack of analogues in principle. It is almost impossible to buy cruisers of the 70th series in Russia. And everything after it is good for girls to drive to nightclubs, and off-road like a half-meter member is cool, but useless.
  4. andrewkor
    andrewkor 23 May 2021 06: 02
    +3
    “What can the Russians not come up with, just not to build roads!” - a legendary phrase, I don’t remember any foreign expert about the GAZ-69!
    1. igor67
      igor67 23 May 2021 07: 15
      +5
      Quote: andrewkor
      “What can the Russians not come up with, just not to build roads!” - a legendary phrase, I don’t remember any foreign expert about the GAZ-69!
      ... Or maybe all the same Americans, this is a prototype of a loaf, a jeep
      1. mat-vey
        mat-vey 23 May 2021 09: 15
        +2
        [media = https: //mpark.pro/uploads/posts/2018-01/1517160208_01-med-buhanka.jpg]
        The development of the "loaf" began in the first half of the 1950s, and if we count from the first built prototypes, then the "loaves" are even more than 60 years old. This one of the first experimental "search" UAZ-450A, nicknamed "Magpie", was photographed at an exhibition in NAMI in July 1956.
      2. Alex013
        Alex013 23 May 2021 12: 24
        +3
        Exactly, Jeep FC
        1. Alex013
          Alex013 23 May 2021 12: 27
          +3
          inside the cabin
        2. mat-vey
          mat-vey 23 May 2021 12: 34
          +1
          Quote: Alex013
          Exactly, Jeep FC

          In 1954, the designers were given the task of creating a light-duty vehicle with a closed body, unifying the chassis units with the GAZ-69 as much as possible. By the fall of 1957, prototypes of cars with various body options, which the designers themselves dubbed "Magpie" and "Loaf", passed their first tests for off-road bridges' patency and ride comfort. Tests have shown that cars can drive on such bad roads that others are unable to walk a hundred meters, and in any weather.
          By January 1, 1958, the factory facilities had already been prepared for the assembly of 4 trucks per year. From experimental batches, the plant switched to serial production of cars with high performance, and most importantly, with increased cross-country ability. In June, these machines were presented at the All-Union Industrial Exhibition in Moscow.

          Model FC-150 went into production in 1956, with a 210 cm Jeep CJ wheelbase.
          For the army, cars were produced under other codes M676-M677 -M678 - M679, and were mainly used as ambulances.
          Nevertheless, the car was not very popular in the United States. Jeep FC has been produced for 9 years, and a total of 30 thousand cars have been produced.
          1. Alex013
            Alex013 23 May 2021 12: 52
            +1
            Our "Loaf" (452) has been produced since 1965. Later than Forward Control). Yes, he was not popular in the USA. But it was produced in India until 2015. EMNP up to a million were released.
            1. mat-vey
              mat-vey 23 May 2021 12: 53
              +2
              Quote: Alex013
              Our "Loaf" (452), since 1965 they began to produce

              So 450 is not ours anymore?
              1. Alex013
                Alex013 23 May 2021 13: 37
                0
                About 450 - your truth, only it began to be mass-produced since 58, two years later than the Americans. But despite the fact that our design bureaus invented a lot of interesting solutions, they periodically looked across the ocean. There is nothing wrong. Yapi in the 50s are like Koreans in 80-90s and Chinese in 90-2000s. Solid copier ...
                1. mat-vey
                  mat-vey 23 May 2021 13: 39
                  +2
                  Quote: Alex013
                  About 450 - your truth, only it began to be produced in series since 58

                  ... The new car was created in accordance with the decree of the Council of Ministers of the USSR No. 2377-1134 of November 27, 1954, which indicated the organization of the production of cars of the GAZ-69 family, single-axle trailers for them and trucks with a carrying capacity of 1-1,5 tons.
                  Not otherwise, the GRU was connected ...
  5. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 23 May 2021 07: 07
    +3
    Toyota LK and Mitsu and Nissan also started with the Willis version. It is a pity that the UAZ did not match the quality of the LK70 .....
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 23 May 2021 08: 35
      +6
      Mitsubishi Jeep is a compact SUV of the Japanese company Mitsubishi Motors, produced from 1952 to 1998 under license from the American company Willys-Overland motors. It was originally a complete copy of the Jeep CJ3A. Also supplied to the Japanese Self-Defense Forces.
      I had such a diesel engine - I did not know grief!
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 23 May 2021 15: 41
        +1
        All the Japanese, some Koreans, and Tata Indians started with them .... And they came to Hilux, L200 and Nissan H200 .... Hindus are still continuing the topic.
      2. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 24 May 2021 07: 06
        0
        Hyundai, by the way, started its SUVs with the licensed Pajero (I don’t remember the number, it’s a boxy one) Trupper Hyundai, A Kia also from Willis-like cars.
  6. Blacksmith 55
    Blacksmith 55 23 May 2021 07: 38
    +3
    Good morning .
    Finally, again, there was something about old Soviet cars and the history of their construction.
    Thank you, I read it in one breath.
    The simplicity of the car is his undoubted plus, he would have a diesel. And the older cars had a huge appetite.
    However, there was nothing about GAZ 69, or did I miss?
    I look forward to continuing.
    1. Blacksmith 55
      Blacksmith 55 23 May 2021 09: 27
      +1
      I would like to add.
      I have never seen or heard of a dump truck or a tractor. Very interesting and informative photos.
      Thanks again.
  7. Lynx2000
    Lynx2000 23 May 2021 08: 08
    +10
    GAZ-69 was nicknamed "Goat", UAZ-469 - "Bobik".
    For its time, the SUV is no worse than the Land Rover Defender, or TLK 40.
    Currently, the quality of components and assemblies, as well as assemblies, raises criticism.
    Batteries, many manufacturers install in the salon, for example, in Gelendvagen,
    I remember BMW 5 Series 90s. was in the salon.
    To blow up a battery, you have to be so gouging ...
    Regarding the expression "tearing bridges", then in this case it is possible to debate for a long time,
    discussing gouging in the cockpit, or the quality of materials and assembly of the main pairs and axles in the bridges ...
  8. Unknown
    Unknown 23 May 2021 08: 56
    +7
    To produce the same car for 63 years, is that something !? People don't live that long. The world does not stand still, everything flows, everything changes, but not our auto industry. How can you even admire a 2021 car in 1972 !? Yes, in the 70-80s it was a car for its time. But from the mid-80s, it was required for the army and the national economy, a completely different car, with a diesel engine and other bridges. Everyone understood this. An example of Niva before his eyes. And the groundwork was. But the Union collapsed and everything died out. The current government is satisfied with the state of affairs in the automobile industry, the people take everything they offer, the Patriots, there are Chevrolet Niva, and even the old Niva, under the new name Urban, at exorbitant prices. And the government itself prefers to ride only on foreign cars.
    1. vl903
      vl903 23 May 2021 10: 29
      +2
      I like the UAZ patriot. I would like to expel effective managers who force me to change normal parts on govnodetali ... in general, if the state order would take the UAZ in a full cycle for 25 years, (if the factory broke down, let's have a replacement car, this is an incentive for high-quality components) and chose the best solutions and configurations from the annual upgrades of the patriot from 2012 to 2021 and with the condition of 100% production in the Russian Federation and not in China, it would have turned out to be an ideal car at this price.
      1. Unknown
        Unknown 23 May 2021 12: 34
        +4
        Of course, everyone must be kicked out, along with the design bureau, technologists and others. It's the 21st century.
        A bunch of all sorts of research institutes, but no sense. Humor
        1. vl903
          vl903 23 May 2021 13: 01
          +1
          if everyone is kicked out, who will design and do? banana sellers? or supposedly scientists, candidates for the digital economy (Medvedev and co)? if you are talking about rust, then the first reason, in my opinion, is initially low-grade metal. efficient management and the pursuit of costs. well, the bottom left photo is clearly from a different price category
          1. Unknown
            Unknown 23 May 2021 13: 32
            -1
            Young, talented, intelligent people need to give way. And then they sit in the design bureau, they are already overgrown with moss, there is zero sense, and they are spreading rot smart, everything suits them, they do not need to think, work too, they have forgotten how to invent something. The main thing is to hold out for retirement. There are talents in Russia, such cars can come up with, anyway expensive.
            Why are they not allowed to create, to do?
            1. vl903
              vl903 23 May 2021 14: 06
              +5
              because the old ones are not given. Now the ball is ruled by effective managers - sold out - the same age. put cheap metal with sulfur on the body, showed the shareholders the savings, got a bonus of 100-500 million and went to another office, and there at least the grass would not grow. and so they walk in a circle. and your picture has a weird concept. who needs it besides designers? the car should be beautiful, convenient, practical, technological and at a price adequate for the purpose. what is the purpose of the car in the photo?
              1. Unknown
                Unknown 23 May 2021 17: 18
                +1
                What did the old ones do before? Couldn't copy what a good model like Koreans
                Diesel since 2005 and ours do
                Also from the same year, only gasoline. The main customer is M.O., but they don't care what kind of SUV in the army, they are satisfied.
                ... USA show
                https://www.beamng.com/attachments/humvee-50-jpg.258742/
                But our generals demonstrate to Putin the torn off pens of the Patriots
                Time does not stand still, 21st century in the yard
                1. vl903
                  vl903 23 May 2021 18: 01
                  +1
                  old engineers fulfill the terms of reference, as well as new ones will. others will be fired. The pen is a vivid example of unrestrained economy. Of all three examples, the patriot is the best. Korean is an impractical SUV. hamer dear weak hemorrhoid wretchedness. analogue of gas 66 for horse money. kruzak is almost ideal, except for the price. we need the same and we have it - a patriot. you just need to remove the jambs. but that will raise the price a little. in order for the plant to be sure that there will be demand, there must be a state order on the basis of increasing both strength and reliability. now the plant is surviving in spite of the state. and the cheaper the more demand.
                  1. Unknown
                    Unknown 23 May 2021 18: 55
                    +1
                    A patriot, maybe it will be, when you don’t be a good car, but only with a diesel engine. The diesel engine is needed by the domestic auto industry like air. But for now, it’s just a misunderstanding. He began to drive a car since the age of 84, drove in almost the entire automobile industry of the USSR. The last 16 years, moved on foreign cars, Ford, Volkswagen, Audi, Hyundai, both gasoline and diesel, and there is something to compare with. Who drove foreign cars, will no longer sit behind the wheel of a 1972 car, whatever it is called, Patriot, or in another way. The difference is simply enormous.
                    1. vl903
                      vl903 23 May 2021 19: 13
                      0
                      diesel put on a patriot, 514. did not go. gasoline now, why don't you like it? I know two. Have gone on foreign cars. now a patriot. suits, except for the voiced jambs. both think the Kruzaks are better, but the difference in the price of purchase and service is several times ... more often than not, the argument - I will not sit on the car's swelling does not sound from adequate acquaintances.
                      1. Unknown
                        Unknown 23 May 2021 19: 26
                        +1
                        Quote: vl903
                        diesel put on a patriot, 514. did not go. gasoline now, why don't you like it?

                        I don't like the 72-year-old car, which is produced with minor improvements. already in 2021.
                        Quote: vl903
                        I know two. Have gone on foreign cars. now a patriot. suits, except for the voiced jambs. both consider the Kruzaks better, but the difference in the price of purchase and service is many times.

                        I will not list how many people have the opposite opinion.
                        Quote: vl903
                        most often the argument - I will not sit on the car's swelling does not sound from adequate acquaintances

                        Judge not lest ye be judged
                      2. vl903
                        vl903 23 May 2021 19: 34
                        0
                        judging by what you call a patriot machine in 1972, you hardly understand what you are saying. for what tasks do you need a permanent all-wheel drive with a frame on bridges? and which of your tasks does it fail? Or are you one of those who, by order of the United States, ruined our factories and now gives our true values ​​abroad for beads? Or for money or out of stupidity, spread rot on everything Russian to the delight of our enemies? but after all, according to the same training manual, any of your work can also be unreasonably called unnecessary to anyone and therefore you do not have the right to life and must make room for the same Yapas or Anglo-Saxons or Chinese ...
                      3. Unknown
                        Unknown 23 May 2021 20: 13
                        +2
                        Quote: vl903
                        judging by what you call a patriot machine in 1972, you hardly understand what you are saying. for what tasks do you need a permanent all-wheel drive with a frame on bridges? and which of your tasks does it fail

                        What tasks can the Patriot perform? Can he put a ZSU on him, like on a Kruzak?
                        If I went off-road, I need to go and not strain jumping up on every hole. On the highway, going out to overtake, overtake, and not put pressure on the gas, in order to somehow disperse, this is a creation, and will not ditch.
                        Quote: vl903
                        Or are you one of those who, by order of the United States, ruined our factories and now gives our true values ​​abroad for beads? Or for money or out of stupidity, spread rot on everything Russian to the delight of our enemies?

                        Don't, only this leavened patriotism. Those who ruined the Soviet industry, and to this day, are healthy, do not grieve. And so far, nothing better than in the USSR, they have not produced, but are only trying to improve what is outdated, both morally and technologically.
                      4. vl903
                        vl903 23 May 2021 20: 38
                        0
                        Did you really drive a 469 or a patriot? no argument for a diesel engine was heard. bezdor for both is homeland, patr is good on the track. You can put patras in a pickup if the leaven ambition does not allow you to drive in our armored cars and armored personnel carriers. both have jambs. the main quality of components. kruzak is better but a different price class. moreover, for the majority with similar tasks the duster is more suitable. but I haven't heard any arguments from you. I got the impression that you are a victim of propaganda, according to which all ours are bad, and you did not drive UAZ cars.
                      5. Unknown
                        Unknown 24 May 2021 06: 05
                        +2
                        Quote: vl903
                        Did you really drive a 469 or a patriot? no argument for a diesel engine was heard. bezdor for both is homeland, patr is good on the track.

                        What are the arguments in favor of a diesel engine. Well, someone can use the ZMZ-40906.10. Off-road, some argue that there is nothing better than a mare.
                        Quote: vl903
                        You can put patras in a pickup if the leaven ambition does not allow you to drive in our armored cars and armored personnel carriers. both have jambs.

                        You could still put something in the 469 pickup, nothing in the Patriot.
                        Quote: vl903
                        the main quality of components. kruzak is better but a different price class. moreover, for the majority with similar tasks the duster is more suitable. but I haven't heard any arguments from you. I got the impression that you are a victim of propaganda, according to which all ours are bad, and you did not drive UAZ cars.

                        What quality can we talk about in the cars of the automotive industry? Do you still live in the Union? Wake up, for a long time already RF. How can an equal sign be put between Toyota Motor Corporation and the Ulyanovsk Automobile Plant. What are you smoking?
                      6. Roman_vh
                        Roman_vh 24 May 2021 10: 59
                        -3
                        Have you already lifted up with Toyota, Do you want Toyota's quality and technology? Cook five more cutlets for the UAZ. A friend does not exist. UAZ performs all the functions of the LC, and some (OffRoad) are much better. I know little of people who ride on the LC, at least on the lawn grass. Not talking about shit. Any repair of a car is at least 20% of the price of the UAZ.
                      7. Unknown
                        Unknown 24 May 2021 11: 57
                        +1
                        Someone else tore you, I understand. I want Russia to have good cars, not buckets to the city. If you want to ride in the fields, buy a horse, and you won't need spare parts.
                      8. Roman_vh
                        Roman_vh 2 June 2021 20: 08
                        0
                        Do you want, and you are silent? (c) You also don’t know how to read.
  • Intruder
    Intruder 23 May 2021 14: 31
    -1
    then the first reason in my opinion is initially low-grade metal
    Well, to put a "stainless steel", it will be more expensive than ... productively !, maybe just use a good waterproofing from polymer compounds, you can always update yourself, where it opened !?
    1. vl903
      vl903 23 May 2021 14: 55
      +4
      not stainless steel, but black steel. it is just that steel is of varying degrees of purification from harmful impurities. it is clear that it is a little more expensive than shit metal. but already to good metal cataphoresis and good painting and there will be no problems with rust. but then managers will not receive bonuses. surely those who are in the automotive industry know this all for so hundred years
      1. Intruder
        Intruder 23 May 2021 14: 59
        0
        not stainless steel, but black steel. it is just that steel is of varying degrees of purification from harmful impurities. it is clear that it is a little more expensive than shit metal. but already to good metal cataphoresis and good painting and problems with rust will not be
        I therefore in quotes and wrote wink , priming and painting, so-and-so are generally necessary conditions, but in harsh conditions it is possible to cover up to a heap with a polymer, especially in places with direct contact with external factors: stones, grass and all sorts of wet environments ...
        And managers, "there are all of them in a swing" and in bulk (in large quantities), always spoil the engineering genius, Herods and victims of their marketing and peeling, by the way, not only in the Russian Federation! sad
        1. Bad_gr
          Bad_gr 3 June 2021 02: 11
          0
          Quote: Intruder
          Well, to put a "stainless steel", it will be more expensive than ... productive!

          Quote: Intruder
          priming and painting are generally necessary conditions, but in harsh conditions it is possible to cover up to a heap with a polymer, especially in places with direct contact with external factors: stones, grass and all sorts of wet environments ...

          Not the fact that stainless steel will be more expensive. For example, the DeLorean DMC-12 sports car had a stainless steel roof, since it was cheaper than a simple tin one with priming and painting operations. I think the bottom of the car, where the metal requires more protection, since it must be protected not only from dampness and corrosive mixtures with which the road is processed in winter, but also from mechanical stress (crushed stone, hard grass, etc.) - only stainless steel and a place.
          1. Intruder
            Intruder 3 June 2021 03: 15
            -1
            DeLorean DMC-12 stainless steel roof
            There a frame body made of composite sheathed with stainless steel sheets in the form of an outer layer, the most corrosion-protected car in the history of Mankind !!! wink good
  • Lynx2000
    Lynx2000 23 May 2021 21: 54
    0
    Quote: Unknown

    By the way, the H3 is a real SUV compared to the H2, with a reliable automatic transmission or manual transmission,
    normal transfer case, central locking and forced locking of the rear axle differential. In some later Adventure trim levels, there was a front axle differential lock. Engine 3,7 liters. in-line five with a timing chain drive produces power under 240 hp. The base platform is a Chevrolet Colorado pickup truck. Iron does not rust on paint chips. Everything refers to the American assembly. His purpose is more utilitarian, not for show-off ...
  • sibiryouk
    sibiryouk 23 May 2021 09: 49
    +2
    Our family had a UAZ-3151 (from 1989 to 2002), without gearboxes, the simplest complete set with a tarpaulin awning. They put a fiberglass roof and springs from the UAZ truck in the back, after which, having removed the seats in the back, they transported a whole pallet of bricks together. The permeability is excellent, we went to the Sayan Mountains, in some places on complete impassability, for berries, for a pine cone. Once, by necessity, we overcame 0.5 km of fresh plowing across the field! The machine is tough - MILITARY, but the permeability + carrying capacity is better than that of NIVA! Before the appearance of the TOYOTA Landcruiser in the USSR, there was no other similar technique!
    1. Intruder
      Intruder 23 May 2021 10: 44
      0
      The permeability is excellent, we went to the Sayan Mountains, in some places on complete impassability, for berries, for a pine cone.
      And what about the Sayan Mountains !? Western or Eastern, he just lived there for many years ... (that's interesting, by fellow countrymen ...). drinks
      1. sibiryouk
        sibiryouk 23 May 2021 14: 04
        +1
        Eastern Sayan - foothills, rivers Mana, Krol, Mina, Sisim. Gasoline and the truth is a large consumption - up to 20 liters on the 2nd reduced with the front axle connected.
        1. Intruder
          Intruder 23 May 2021 14: 28
          0
          Eastern Sayan - foothills, rivers Mana, Krol, Mina, Sisim.
          Eh, the second homeland !!! South of Siberia ... good
          1. sibiryouk
            sibiryouk 23 May 2021 15: 11
            +1
            Manu at the UAZ was once forced ford, the water reached the hood, but the engine did not stall, the width was 30-40 meters. We drove to the top of the hill, the height on the top map is 1200m, the railway was visible from above. Abakan-Taishet highway, 10 kilometers distance.
            1. Intruder
              Intruder 23 May 2021 15: 13
              0
              the railway is visible Abakan-Taishet highway
              hmm, my grandfather built it for 9 years ... !!!
    2. Was mammoth
      Was mammoth 23 May 2021 15: 16
      0
      Quote: sibiryouk
      The permeability is excellent ...

      High in the mountains, where the UAZ traveled, one could meet only Zaporozhets. wink
      1. sibiryouk
        sibiryouk 23 May 2021 15: 54
        +1
        Back in the 80s, there was an expedition to the Caucasus on UAZs - they stopped at Kazbek.
        1. Was mammoth
          Was mammoth 23 May 2021 18: 29
          0
          Quote: sibiryouk
          Back in the 80s on UAZs

          Zaporozhets is an underestimated device. Where it does not work, you can transfer it. It means that he would have stopped too. wink In vain they didn’t take him to the company. wink
  • Konnick
    Konnick 23 May 2021 15: 01
    +2
    At one time, Jacques Yves Cousteau chose UAZ-452 for his trip to the alpine lake Titicacu.
  • Konnick
    Konnick 23 May 2021 15: 11
    +1
    Along with the eight-seat, two-door GAZ-69 with folding benches, the so-called "command", four-door, with a full-fledged rear sofa, GAZ-69A, was produced.
    One veteran told me that Defense Minister Grechko came to test the new UAZ-469. He arrived just at 69A and made his driver pull into the ravine, cross the stream and get out on the other side of the ravine. The driver performed this trick and Grechko asked the factory testers to repeat the same on the 469th. Up the ravine, the new UAZ could not get out, the wide tires slipped, and did not cut through the ground, and the weight was more.
    1. sibiryouk
      sibiryouk 23 May 2021 15: 25
      +2
      Even before the UAZ, our family had a GAZ-69A with a metal homemade top, we installed the engine from a Volga-taxi 85hp. The steering became lighter (tapered bearings), 3-leaf springs are softer, all-terrain rubber (toothy) - so it surpassed the UAZ in cross-country ability, throttle response, ease of control!
      1. Konnick
        Konnick 23 May 2021 15: 54
        +1
        I like the appearance of the GAZ-69 more than the 469th.
      2. Zufei
        Zufei 23 May 2021 18: 51
        +2
        Rubber - 50% cross-country ability. 469 is no different in concept from 69. Evolution. The engine is more powerful and reliable and does not overheat. Checkpoint - 4st. against 3st. The only congenital design flaw in the 469 is the jammed wheel arches. Clogged with clay. In 69 it is impossible.
        1. Intruder
          Intruder 23 May 2021 19: 23
          -1
          The only congenital design flaw in the 469 is the jammed wheel arches. Clogged with clay.
          Hmm, many fans of this model make custom arches and fenders themselves .. by the way ... I remember!
  • Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 23 May 2021 15: 43
    +1
    No need to invent ... Buy a license with a production line of any of the Japs (of the past or the generation before last ... and do it. The Chinese did it, for example.
    1. Intruder
      Intruder 23 May 2021 19: 26
      0
      Buy a license with a production line of any of the Japs (of the past or the generation before last ... and do it.
      And we are going our own thorny path, and with the Japs in a state of war, until now ... therefore it does not fit - to the enemy of the grandmother to pay for the license !!! angry So I let the Chinese go with the Koreans, and they do all sorts of licenses and buy lines ... (The enemy does not surrender, our proud Varyag ... good )
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 23 May 2021 19: 43
        0
        And Libcher und Mercedes normalno?
        1. Azimuth
          Azimuth 23 May 2021 20: 51
          0
          After 469, LUAZik appeared, significantly surpassed in cross-country ability.
          1. Zaurbek
            Zaurbek 24 May 2021 06: 53
            +2
            A very progressive car ..... It would have a more luxurious version and a bigger engine.
            1. Intruder
              Intruder 24 May 2021 07: 37
              -1
              He would have a more luxurious version and a bigger motor.
              And its retail price has grown at once, then it makes sense to fence this "garden", it will be uncompetitively capable, precisely on the domestic market, for a local user !?
          2. Roman_vh
            Roman_vh 24 May 2021 11: 11
            0
            But the opportunities are also curtailed, neither you can push through a little fluff, nor the people to plant. And so yes, he is excellent. The independent suspension and flat belly work wonders. And the weight in it was slightly more than that of the Zaporozhets.
            1. mat-vey
              mat-vey 24 May 2021 12: 47
              0
              Quote: Roman_VH
              But the possibilities are also curtailed, neither you can push through a little fluff, nor the people to plant.

              So it was not done for this. This is an evacuation vehicle ..
    2. vl903
      vl903 23 May 2021 21: 18
      0
      it only seems so. the Chinese have already gone out to work on their own. we bought in 30g. now we already had our own design and technological school better than the Japanese one, just give me the correct terms of reference ... it was ... now even the patriots and Vesta are probably 70 Chinese ... and not developing and not releasing our own we will not and will not Sovereignty is coming soon and we have such incomes that you cannot afford more than one child. which means we are doomed to free up territory for smarter races. probably we need it.
      1. Intruder
        Intruder 24 May 2021 07: 34
        0
        our income is such that you cannot afford more than one child. which means we are doomed to free up territory for smarter races. probably we need it.
        This is a normal historical process, empires are created and die (19th and 20th centuries), then they are populated by other peoples and neighboring countries .., and in order to hold large territories, it is necessary not only to large and developed economies, but also to carry out wise internal policies of both we do not have and may not be! Therefore, the sunset, unfortunately ... request
  • Michael
    Michael 23 May 2021 23: 44
    +1
    Everything depends on the gasket. Civil Patriot has condo and parking sensors, and will do any Kruzak in the sticky clay of country roads.
    1. faiver
      faiver 25 May 2021 11: 39
      +1
      Funny and not true hi
      1. Konnick
        Konnick 25 May 2021 11: 45
        +1
        On all Kruzaks there is a rear cross-axle differential lock, as on our TPK or LuAZiks, and on UAZs only if you make something yourself.
        1. vl903
          vl903 26 May 2021 16: 52
          0
          Well, from the factory, the patriots now have a suite with an electric drive. and for jeepers the sea and samobloki and pneumatic and fur drive. for every taste
      2. vl903
        vl903 26 May 2021 16: 57
        0
        Quote: faiver
        Funny and not true hi

        what's wrong? Kruzak of course abruptly in stock. but the comfort is now the minimum normal in the suite at Patra. If, due to the difference in price, you screw up the patr with locks, tires, an elevator, a winch, then you must also look for routes where the cruise will pass but no patr. Yes, and vabsche you have a YouTube with a jeep themes turned off the tunnels?
        1. faiver
          faiver 26 May 2021 17: 07
          0
          Why do I need YouTube? You are welcome to visit us in Yakutia, patriots buy either from budgetary and near-budget organizations, or city ones to go to shoshly for a cheap show-off, the Japanese car industry and the good old 469s prevail in the villages ... hi
          Yes, and I myself worked at a car company and I know what a UAZ is.
          1. vl903
            vl903 26 May 2021 17: 49
            0
            old Kruzak or Patrol is certainly a thing! but! in good condition are like an airplane. unfortunately, they are getting old, the spare parts are more and more expensive, there is of course China, but this is not the quality. comfort in a patriot suite means you should have seen? normal minimum set: autonomous, blocking, condo, two stoves (in extreme frosts, it still warms the glass rather badly) heated frontal rear and side mirrors. heated steering wheel and 4 seats. abs start off and rest set. rear view camera navigator and speakerphone, winch. lock options:
            httpss: //uazps.com/vnedorozhnoe-oborudovanie/blokirovki/
  • Narak-zempo
    Narak-zempo 24 May 2021 10: 01
    -1
    The Ulyanovsk plant has always pleased with the build quality, indestructibility and corrosion resistance, as well as the thoughtfulness of various details for the convenience of the driver and passengers.
    1. vl903
      vl903 24 May 2021 18: 46
      0
      zil, azlk, gaz-volga, raf, eraz will never please. in 50 years the oil and gas will run out and our grandchildren will suck their paws, we do not produce anything! the grandchildren of the elite are already attached and provided for. let them drown each other for the amusement of the "partners"
    2. faiver
      faiver 25 May 2021 11: 40
      0
      When it was?
      1. Narak-zempo
        Narak-zempo 25 May 2021 11: 59
        -1
        Quote: faiver
        When it was?

        Always.
        And when he worked in the ambulance on the "loaf".
        And now I have a "Hunter" for trips to the country. I'm going to buy a "Patriot" here.
        1. faiver
          faiver 25 May 2021 12: 02
          -1
          Lying is not good stop
  • fuffi
    fuffi 26 May 2021 09: 16
    0
    Quote: Free Wind
    The so-called military bridges, with final drives, began to be installed not from a good life, but to unload the bridge gearbox at least a little. paying at the same time with the increased consumption of benzyl. Do you know what flow rate? And 15 liters per hundred at least, this is if you go downhill and with a favorable wind on the highway.

    nonsense. gearboxes increase ground clearance, which was important for the military. Well, to figure out that there were fewer military vehicles, and tens of thousands of civilian UAZ vehicles with bridges without final drives are rolling and have no problems with the bridge gear. there is one problem in the UAZ - the driver is behind the wheel.
  • Konnick
    Konnick 26 May 2021 09: 23
    0
    Quote: fuffi
    Quote: Free Wind
    The so-called military bridges, with final drives, began to be installed not from a good life, but to unload the bridge gearbox at least a little. paying at the same time with the increased consumption of benzyl. Do you know what flow rate? And 15 liters per hundred at least, this is if you go downhill and with a favorable wind on the highway.

    nonsense. gearboxes increase ground clearance, which was important for the military. Well, to figure out that there were fewer military vehicles, and tens of thousands of civilian UAZ vehicles with bridges without final drives are rolling and have no problems with the bridge gear. there is one problem in the UAZ - the driver is behind the wheel.

    The spreading of torque from the differential to the onboard planetary gears pursues another goal, namely, to increase the friction of the differential, i.e. a limited slip differential is obtained, which, in addition to increasing ground clearance, also improves cross-country ability. There is no unloading, the gear ratio of the hypoid gear was reduced and the load remained. Planetary bridges are made only to increase cross-country ability.
  • Vladimir Basov
    Vladimir Basov 27 May 2021 15: 50
    0
    Heh .. I h..yu with local commentators, KrAZ cars crap, for that UAZ praise, so one country started to do all this ..
    1. vl903
      vl903 28 May 2021 07: 05
      +1
      an educated person will not find fault with any technique, even if ours is imported. will analyze the pros and cons of it and will use this technique, taking into account its capabilities. so that there would be no later disappointment from the effect of inflated expectations. I know the disadvantages and advantages of their UAZ. and Kraz was the workhorse of its time. what complaints can there be?
      1. Bad_gr
        Bad_gr 3 June 2021 02: 51
        0
        Quote: vl903
        an educated person will not find fault with any technique, even if ours is imported. will analyze the pros and cons of it and will use this technique, taking into account its capabilities. so that there would be no later disappointment from the effect of inflated expectations.

        There were such cars: Kolkhida, Iraz, Nisa (Polish). I have not met people who operated these machines and spoke well of them.
        1. vl903
          vl903 3 June 2021 06: 40
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          Eraz probably? I also heard that the cars were not successful in comparison with others. But at the same time it is better than a lorry. The shortage of transport was somehow closed and the number of engineering kb in the country was increased. if everything is clear with eraz and colchis, the Caucasian republics did not understand why they needed it, when it was possible to grow peaches and sell kebabs on the beach, then what did the Poles mess up? maybe the units from the Volga were rather weak?
          1. Bad_gr
            Bad_gr 3 June 2021 10: 30
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            Quote: vl903
            Eraz probably?

            Exactly, Yeraz (Yerevan).
            The build quality was terrible. One driver told me how he was lucky to receive this car from the factory: he could not leave the factory gates on it, he started repairs right on its territory, and this business did not cost him cheap at all (he paid for each key, for each bolt).
            Nysa (Nysa, Nisa). Made using parts from their "Warsaw", which, in turn, was made on the basis of "Pobeda". The build quality was. like "Colchis"
            1. vl903
              vl903 3 June 2021 10: 55
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              we were taken to such a school))) but of course, apart from the salon, I don’t remember anything. write that the main jamb is obsolete units from the modernized victory (50hp and 3 speeds in the gearbox). if about the Volga it would be more interesting machine. At the same time, to Lech Walesa, the build quality was decent and the price quality for a budget van was normal.
  • nemugi
    nemugi 11 June 2021 09: 38
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    Landcruiser pickup 2014 Vladivostok - Moscow - Vladivostok II July 2016
    ... 4 liters of gasoline. Consumption 17l.