"For the Air Force of the Armed Forces": Ukraine completed the assembly of the fuselage of the first An-178-100P

The assembly of the fuselage of the first military transport aircraft An-178-100P has been completed in Ukraine. The fuselage roll-out ceremony was held at the Antonov State Enterprise, the press service of the enterprise reports.

The company reportedly has completed the assembly of the An-178-100P fuselage, which is being manufactured for the Air Force of the Ukrainian Armed Forces under a contract for three AN-178s. The contract was signed on December 29 last year under state guarantees. All three aircraft are planned to be manufactured in four years.

In addition to the fuselage, other elements of the aircraft are not yet ready, they are planned to be manufactured by the end of this year. After that, the company will start assembling the first aircraft. It is planned to hand it over to the Armed Forces of Ukraine in 2023. The production of airframe elements for the other two aircraft has not yet begun.

As explained, the An-178-100P is an improved Ukrainian An-178. Kiev intends to replace the outdated military transport aircraft of the still Soviet assembly An-12 and An-26. It is stated that the order for the An-178 can be expanded.

The An-178 basic transport aircraft was developed on the basis of the An-148 / An-158 regional aircraft. The design of the aircraft was carried out without the use of design documentation, which led to a misalignment of the aircraft due to miscalculations of the designers.

According to the developers, the aircraft has the following characteristics: flight altitude - 12 km, range - 4200 km, maximum speed - 825 km / h. The shape of the fuselage and ramp allow you to transport bulky goods weighing up to 18 tons, including containers.

Comments

[Thrifty]

So, let the fuselage fly separately, there will be a sensation for their parade, the world's first wingless plane!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Thrifty

let the fuselage fly separately, there will be a sensation by their parade, the world's first wingless plane!

Flies, flies like Vazelin said "Only quietly and low, low."

[Anachoret]

aircraft body with an inscription on the fuselage with a dream of wings)
this is such a subtle banter, like writing "wash me" on a dirty car)

[Vladimir Mashkov]

Window dressing for the 30th anniversary of the dying hole (the plane itself maybe it will built already in 2023!). So that Zelya could grunt in the holiday report: "We are building planes."

Just wondering: will the entot eroplan be built at all? And, if they do, will the states of the sub-American Bandera be in time before the death of the state? What comes first?

[Bad_gr]

If they do, it should be like this.

The first flight of the An-178 aircraft was in 2015. There are a lot of orders for it, but I did not find how many of them were released. Positioned as a replacement for the An-12.

[Oleg Aviator]

There is a scorer and an embraer. And someone else's mouth is worse than a pistol. The niche is filled and divided. A chance to go to Russia, but not yet.

[Stepan S]

Russia will not buy, it is excluded for all reasons. we will fly on our Il-112.

[bayard]

Quote: Stepan S

Russia won't buy

And if all Little Russia and Novorossia return to the Native Harbor?
In this case, it will buy. And he will buy a lot. For in the Russian Federation in this segment there is a complete hole - in recent years, they do not even mention the hypothetical Il-276 ... they did not even try to design it, so ... the models ...
If this happens (the reunification of parts of historical Russia), all the products of the Antonov Design Bureau will be in demand. And in large volumes.

Quote: Stepan S

we will fly on our Il-112.

This is not a competitor or analogue. The Il-112 is replacing the An-26, and the An-178 is replacing the An-12.
And Russia will need BOTH types of aircraft.
And finish the "Novorusskoe khataskraystvo". Russia is:
- Great Russia,
- Little Russia,
- New Russia,
- Slobozhanshchina (Kharkiv region),
- and Belarus.
And without the fullness of its lands and people, the Russian Federation is not Russia at all ... This is just its stub left over from the dismembered Great Empire.

[Servisinzhener]

In the photo you have given, all the produced aircraft of this type.

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: Servisinzhener

the photo you have given of all the produced aircraft of this type.

Uh, let's be honest: this is the only aircraft assembled ... have the balancing plates removed yet? Otherwise, it didn't work out well: the plane on the air saloon and the slabs on the floor ...

[Servisinzhener]

I agree. Whether they have solved the issue with these plates, or will they continue to produce it, they are not aware of it.

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: Servisinzhener

Whether they have solved the issue with these plates, or will they continue to produce it, they are not in the know.

Well, that would be already complete madness, although ...
Will they produce, that is the question ..

[Stepan S]

Are there many orders for it? Where does this information come from? Maybe there is a lot of talk about orders, then yes. Who will buy an aircraft that does not fly in the country of the manufacturer?

[Bad_gr]

Quote: Stepan S

Are there many orders for it? Where does this information come from?

Information from Wiki

For all orders, deliveries are "0".

[Stepan S]

It has nothing to do with reality. Orders are signed contracts, not an abandoned phrase: "Well, we would buy a couple of dozen")
There is also a "memorandum" everywhere, except for one aircraft for Iraq, one for Peru and three now for the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and then without money. They are building this first-born on credit.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Stepan S

Are there many orders for it? Where does this information come from?

Porshenko calls "Antonov" and asks how many ordered, 90 pieces answer - "Well done, we are working!". They threw off the powder, Zelensky calls to Antonov and asks how many ordered, 90 pieces answer - "Well done, we are working!"
Soon a new prezik will come, and he will also ask, but as the fabulist Krylov said, "And things are still there" (although in a year the plant will be demolished, and already bankrupt).

[Stepan S]

Well, it's the same as with the tanks. They built, built the most "tighter" army, Zelensky came, asked at the factory, it turns out ONE tank in five years.

[Maikcg]

There are many orders for it

memoranda rather

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Bad_gr

The first flight of the An-178 aircraft was in 2015. There are a lot of orders for it, but I did not find how many of them were released.

Interestingly, there are many orders, but according to information, not one has been sold.

[ficus2003]

They stupidly do not have money, people and corruption as in African countries. They could not even build a mortar for years, it exploded during operation.

[Ovsigovets]

and how much is this? for a few are at least TWO))))) and you can link to it MANY ????

[Real Pilot]

The aircraft was designed without using design documentation.

What is it like???
I don't seem to be trending! I have not heard about this yet - this is know-how, apparently.

which led to a misalignment of the aircraft due to designers' miscalculations

Well, the result is obvious!

One would think that the reporters were mistaken, and all the documentation was in electronic form, you never know ... But the second part of the phrase speaks of a complete loss of competence.

I understand that there are different types of documentation, it is not entirely clear which part was "dispensed with". Project documentation is a very broad concept. But in vain they did so.

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: RealPilot

the second part of the phrase speaks of a complete loss of competence

They were caught at the air show in Europe on metal plates in the cockpit for balancing

[Piramidon]

Quote: RealPilot

The aircraft was designed without using design documentation.

What is it like???
I don't seem to be trending! I have not heard about this yet - this is know-how, apparently.

Very simple. Tupolev also assembled his ANT-1 "on the knee" without any documentation.

[NEOZ]

Quote: Thrifty

So, let the fuselage fly separately, there will be a sensation for their parade, the world's first wingless plane!

you now resemble a resident of country 404 ..... do not be like ...

[Login_Off]

The inscription on the fuselage "reliable wings for the armed forces" only there are no wings)

[Thrifty]

Loginoff wings will fly separately, the engines will also move independently in the parade, that is, independently The more, the funnier aviation, that is, more powerful

[mojohed2012]

So the wings will be painted.
At the parade, you can really open the cockpit, put up the speakers and start audio recording of the noise of the aircraft's engines.
And the wings can be attached to the parade and stick on cardboard.
You can pull the plane with a bulldozer, or even a group of senior officers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Each one for his own rope.
I wonder if the fuselage will last for a long time? I remember the only unfinished "corvette" cut into bolts, and here is the plane.

[Stepan S]

I remember the only unfinished "corvette" cut into bolts

No, they did not cut it into bolts, and it rusts on the slipway in Nikolaev.

[sedoj]

The inscription on the fuselage "reliable wings for the armed forces" only there are no wings)

Here are the wings and sent to the armed forces. The rest is optional.

[credo]

And they said that "Antonov" was bent, and then they rolled out such a handsome man, everyone envy.
Everything for the front.
There is no money left for civilian products.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

An order for 3 Antonov's planes will not feed. If, of course, the United States does not help with money or an order, then sooner or later everything will go to pieces.

To be a profitable enterprise, it is necessary to produce planes constantly and obviously not one piece per year.

[uav80]

Europe and the United States are drowning Antonov's slowly, they need to sell their watermelons and bongs, they don't need competitors ...

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Antonov has not presented any competition to anyone for a long time, but in order to maintain the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the United States can support him, like KrAZ recently, with a small order.

In general, as I understand it, the United States wants to restore order in Ukraine, and therefore create supranational security agencies to rid the country of corruption, and then they will turn Ukraine for Russia into a kind of Israel for the Arabs.

For a long time Russia should begin to behave more rigidly defending its interests.

Why are we not grabbing from Ukraine 3 billion dollars received before the Maidan? Why don't we go to courts, we don't arrest the property of Ukrainian companies?

What are we waiting for? When will they increase so much that they will go to recapture the Crimea? Here we will not use nuclear weapons.

[New Year day]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

Why are we not grabbing from Ukraine 3 billion dollars received before the Maidan? Why don't we go to courts, we don't arrest the property of Ukrainian companies?

And why not?

[Stepan S]

Courts are underway in Britain, where they are already considering everything in some third instance. The percentage has run up there, I'll tell you that Ukraine is better off not thinking about it. Now no one will take a loan at such a percentage, so let the money work.

[Rubi0]

By the way, Ukraine takes 5% instead of Yanukovych, placing Eurobonds at 7-9% in euros and dollars. Then you inadvertently think that this was the purpose of the Maidan to shoe 40 million Russians at such a percentage. Well this is a golden cow)))

[NEOZ]

Quote: Rubi0

Then you inadvertently think that this was the purpose of the Maidan to shoe 40 million Russians at such a percentage. Well this is a golden cow)))

you only voiced one episode, and there are a lot of them!
what is only the open skies treaty with the EU !!!! etc....

[Revolver]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

In general, as I understand it, the United States wants to restore order in Ukraine, and therefore create supranational security agencies to rid the country of corruption

Usually America only undertakes projects that are feasible, at least in theory. Although ... they could have slipped Biden to sign when he was in a hurry to change diapers, and in general he was in such insanity that he could not understand what the puppeteers told him to sign.

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

turn Ukraine for Russia into a kind of Israel for the Arabs.

In the place of both Jews and Russians, I would be offended. Skakuasam to the Jews is about the same as to China in a well-known position, and the Russians are not even close to Arabs.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

The analogy is in the confrontation, and I would not praise the Russians over the Arabs or some other nation, as well as belittle the inhabitants of Ukraine, who are all also Russians, regardless of what they call themselves.

[Revolver]

This is also the analogy, considering that for the Arabs, the confrontation with Israel never ended well.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

The end of this confrontation is far from being.

[Alexander 3]

It is necessary to arrest Kharkov and Odessa on account of the debt.

[NEOZ]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

In general, as I understand it, the United States wants to restore order in Ukraine

you are wrong ... the US has a different goal!

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

therefore they create supranational security organs

these bodies are needed to control and adjust the activities of the state, and not to fight corruption.

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

to rid the country of corruption,

it's not even funny ... the US wants to jail hunter biden?
corruption will be where the locals steal US money ... like in Singapore.

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

Why are we not grabbing from Ukraine 3 billion dollars received before the Maidan?

shake, but the London court does not rule!

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

When will they increase so much that they will go to recapture the Crimea?

they will never be that much stronger ...

[NEOZ]

Quote: credo

And they said that "Antonov" was bent

is not it so?

Quote: credo

and then they rolled out such a handsome man

while this is only the fuselage, let's see how it goes, otherwise it can turn out like with the Project 58250 Corvette

Quote: credo

everyone's envy.

what to envy then?

[tihonmarine]

Nice photo, with a good inscription "Nadina krila!" but without wings (pictured).

[Alexander 3]

It's like the current leadership of Ukraine without a president.

[markant1970]

Recently I read that before that two fuselages were rolled out, including the Peruvian one.
So Antonov FSE or not FSE?

[Bshkaus]

Recently I read that before that two fuselages were rolled out, including the Peruvian one.
So Antonov FSE or not FSE?

If you want to rise to the level of a general, then "All" ...

[Stepan S]

If you want to rise to the level of a general, then "All" ...

Forgive me if that .. but "overweight", otherwise the major may be detained)

[Bshkaus]

Forgive me if that .. but "overweight", otherwise the major may be detained)

Yes, do not care. For me, the keyboard of the smartphone and the narrow screen and so a lot of stress :)

[markant1970]

It was a sarcastic question. Here at VO Antonov was buried long ago, sawed up, handed over to scrap metal, dispersed due to a loss of competence.
I do not plan to become a general

[Bshkaus]

I do not plan to become a general

and at one time I tore off my general's epaulettes and got a commission, i.e. deleted an account on VO in protest. And now I don't even plan, I write what I think, and often at odds with the general opinion.

[markant1970]

Similarly, on many issues I have my own point of view, different from the majority, and I try to defend it in spite of the epaulettes.
Not once or twice I noticed quickly
growing regalia on avatars of some characters

[Stepan S]

It depends on who you ask about Antonov. If the stoned Ukrainians, then he is more alive than all the living, and if normal (yes, yes, there are also such and a lot), then it will not be long left, it will cool down and you can bury it.

[Thrifty]

It remains to wait for the fuselage roll-in ceremony, since the roll-out ceremony has already been

[iouris]

Bandera propaganda wears away the stone.

[Tagan]

Are they getting ready for bobsleigh?

[jeka424]

"The design of the aircraft was carried out without the use of design documentation, which led to a misalignment of the aircraft due to miscalculations of the designers."

[Stepan S]

There, a copy of the Academy of Sciences flew to exhibitions with an armored plate on the bottom, for centering. So there is experience, they will cope)

[alexniko77]

and where are the engines? from a helicopter? from the t-64? from a Zaporozhets or from a Luaz?

[Artem76]

And where is his hydrogen ball, like that of "Hydenburg" ?!

But seriously, it's not clear why they need a fuselage, that's a real mystery. In principle, they do not have a full cycle of the aircraft industry, an aircraft is not only a valuable fuselage and wings, but also 5-30 tons of precious spare parts for it! (even without taking into account the engines, they seem to have an engine factory).

[Stepan S]

They hope to get the missing from friends, or buy from Russia through gaskets. Only about this they will be silent, as it is zrada.

[APASUS]

Everything is going along the well-worn path in Ukraine. Bridges in the village, toilets at school, traffic signs have already been opened. Now it has come to the fuselage assembly holiday! It's not like the floor of the plane, it's probably 35-40 percent, but how colorfully they rolled it out!
And what will be the holiday when it will be painted ................. you will swing

[Shiden]

Excuse me, you probably made a mistake in Ukraine, toilets, signs, bridges in villages do not open with fanfare and do not cut ribbons. Well, it’s not in vain that the Chinese invited Antonovites to design their wings for their transport worker, and they also make motors for Motor Sich, but the devices control and navigation in the USSR was supplied from Russia, the problem may be solved in the world by many manufacturers.

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: Shiden

... the problem is solved in May there are many manufacturers in the world.

Without a doubt, you can replace everything in the modern world: here are recognized masters on the wings of the shaved; for equipment brita, French, Italians; by engines of brita; up to the rack. ... But the question is - how much will it cost import substituted? Who will be interested in it after that? ANYONE.

[Shiden]

You judge this by the MC21 and SU100 "Super Jet" and import substitution is evident, according to the first time they are moving with an undefined tomorrow, but according to the second order they impose on airlines, although there are no problems in other aircraft manufacturers. Or do you think that in Embaer everyone in Brazil or Bombard produces everything Canadian. Just read the comments and understand that people envy other people's developments, innovations and just the fact that others are doing something better and begin to invent all sorts of nonsense. Here on VO they wrote about KrAZ only two the commentator was adequately written by the rest of the commentators hit, as it were, softer to say "Into the flight of fantasy" and only one mentioned about the ZiL plant, the giant which has not been there for as long as 10 years.

[Pete mitchell]

The attractiveness of the AN, in addition to flight data, lies also in the price - however, commerce. I don't think that when substituted, he will be able to compete with the same embraer, plus spoiled karma ...
History of SSJ and MC demonstrates the failure of political decisions

[APASUS]

Quote: Shiden

Sorry, you probably made a mistake in the country in Ukraine toilets, signs, bridges in villages do not open with fanfare and do not cut ribbons

The President of Ukraine opened a road sign
https://iz.ru/758950/2018-06-23/prezident-ukrainy-otkryl-dorozhnyi-znak
A grand opening of a school toilet took place in the Odessa region
https://lenta.ru/news/2016/12/28/tipasortir/
even if necessary, I will pick it up.

Quote: Shiden

Well, the wings, it was not for nothing that the Chinese invited Antonovites to design motors for their transport worker.

China has no choice, no one in the world wants a competitor, and Motor Sich is in a catastrophic situation. They just found each other.

[Shiden]

You better look at what's going on in your house and then nod at others, I can also pick up as many links as you want.

Quote: APASUS

The President of Ukraine opened a road sign
https://iz.ru/758950/2018-06-23/prezident-ukrainy-otkryl-dorozhnyi-znak

Have you even read the article or just the headline, because the article says that Poroshenko came to the opening of the repaired highway.

[Narak-zempo]

The second one will be on the 50th anniversary of independence.
Ko-ko-kakly.

[mmaxx]

The fuselage roll-out ceremony is grandiose! Nobody thought of that. Apparently, they are afraid not to wait for the whole plane.

[Stepan S]

It was he who was being rolled into the workshop, where Zelensky held a press conference against his background. There they also put Ruslan, and at the other wall of the unit from the second Mriya.

[wow]

Not completed, not done, not started yet .... But already the range ... and max. speed ...! Atas!

[Stepan S]

The pace is impressive. The first will be commissioned in 2023; the production of the fuselages of the other two AN-178s has not yet begun. Have all their systems been replaced? And will there be enough funds, because they build planes on credit. Just in 2023, Zelensky's presidency ends, they may not have time to collect and hand over, and there is a new president, new peremogs ...

[Evil 55]

The slogan on board is "Reliable wings to the Armed Forces."

[sevtrash]

An airplane that would be perfect for Russia. Antonovtsy are great nevertheless, although the presence of an engine is extremely important, but Zaporozhye does it. But Antov's bureau and Motorsich have hardly any prospects. In the West, a competitor is not needed, and a service system cannot be created from scratch just like that.

[Dmitriy444]

“And everything would be fine, but the Antonov State Enterprise over the past 5 years has signed as many as 8 memorandums on the supply of the An-178 aircraft both abroad and for the needs of Ukraine, but none of the memorandums has been fulfilled.
2015 - memorandum with Silk Way (Azerbaijan) for 2 boards;
2015 - Memorandum with Beijing A-Star Aerospace Technology Co. (China) for 2 boards;
2015 - Memorandum with Taqnia Aeronautics (KSA) for 10 aircraft and localization of production in Saudi Arabia;
2016 - a memorandum with Airspace Industry Corporation of China (China) for 5 aircraft and localization of production in China;
2016 - a memorandum with the Iraqi Armed Forces on 1 board;
2017 - memorandum with Silk Way (Azerbaijan) for 2 boards and localization of production in Azerbaijan;
2018 - a memorandum with the General Command of the Gendarmerie of Turkey for 4 boards;
2019 - memorandum with the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine for 9 aircraft;
2020 - a memorandum with the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine for 3 boards.
At the same time, over the past 10 years, the enterprise managed to build only one An-178 aircraft. "The most interesting thing is that the plant took out a loan for the aircraft. Now the question arose, and at whose expense the interest will end? look.

[sevtrash]

Quote: Dmitriy444

“And everything would be fine, but the Antonov State Enterprise over the past 5 years has signed as many as 8 memorandums on the supply of the An-178 aircraft both abroad and for the needs of Ukraine, but none of the memorandums has been fulfilled.

I see in all this a sad motive - one of the most successful and strong aircraft design bureaus of the USSR, which has still retained its creative powers, and now it has vague, to put it mildly, prospects.

[AC130 Gunship]

From a legal point of view, the memorandum is simply nothing. Like "girl, I would marry someone like you. And I would marry someone like that." Everything. Even firm contracts with a paid advance sometimes fly by (as happened with several buyers of Sszh-100 from Asia). The customer is bankrupt. What are you going to do now? And the memorandum is generally bullshit. Tomorrow any Uncle Vasya can sign for as many as 10 Mriyas :)

[Ruslan Sulima]

The inscription on the board smiled)
And where are the wings with a tail, or is it already soy?)

[petrol cutter]

And they said- * Antonov * died!
And he-won: he plays airplanes.
How did it happen?!. PKB-there is something wrong ...
This is normal. As they miscalculated, they will be recalculated.
That's the way guys are.

[Revolver]

It is stated that the order for the An-178 can be expanded.

"Where is the money, Zin?" © V. Vysotsky

[yfast]

Was the money stolen for the tail, engines and wings?

[isv000]

So this fuselage can be attached with hydrofoils and a chic choven can turn out ...

[AC130 Gunship]

Something tells me that the phrase about the disturbed centering here is not without reason. New Il is really sinful by this. And somehow it is necessary to denigrate the competitor. The trick is that the first An178 took off several years ago, much earlier than Ila, and then no one spoke about the alignment problem. It is logical to think that (purely theoretically), even if some problems were revealed on the 1st test machine, they will be helped further. Moreover, the aircraft is built on the basis of a family that has been flying for 15 years. There, in addition to the cargo ramp at the rear, there are also a couple of major changes (no soft seats, less sorting, etc.) little differs from the base An148 / 158

[Ovsigovets]

Quote: Bad_gr

Quote: Stepan S

Are there many orders for it? Where does this information come from?

Information from Wiki

For all orders, deliveries are "0".

ay yay yay ..... fu fu fu so be .... you have to be able to lie too ... I'm about your own picture from Wiki))) why didn't I put up the whole picture? do you want to tell me WHY ???? because she will immediately show that these are dreams ... and I will voice your "contracts")))) Badging (2 pcs.), Airspace (25 pcs.), Takni (30 pcs.), Civil Service for Emergency Situations (13 pcs.) That's all MEMORANDUM))))) well, that is, desires expressed aloud ..... like "it would be nice, maybe, probably .... someday buy ...... fu fu fu fantasies pass off as reality

[Bad_gr]

Quote: Ovsigovets

you must also be able to lie ...

Interestingly, and what exactly is my lie?

[Ovsigovets]

about "many" orders ..... MANY, and even more ORDERS it is not more than 2, but MORE ... and the order is a contract, not a memorandum

[Bad_gr]

Quote: Ovsigovets

about "many" orders ..... MANY, and even more ORDERS it is not more than 2, but MORE ... and the order is a contract, not a memorandum

Probably my message contained too much information, which is not understandable for everyone. I'll try to explain it in a simpler way.
I was asked a question

Quote: Stepan S

Are there many orders for it? Where does this information come from?

I pointed to the source of the information and, in order not to be unfounded, I scanned the part of the table where "Orders" is written in the upper left corner, the table lists the countries interested in buying this aircraft. And since not a single order was completed, there was no point in scanning the table completely. I replaced the missing part of the table with the phrase

Quote: Bad_gr

For all orders, deliveries "0"

The "0" icon is not the letter "O", but the digital "0", in words "ZERO", which meant that not a single order was completed.
The meaning of everything written: there are those who want to buy this aircraft, but the plant is not able to fulfill it.
I hope that this message will not be understood by you, that I affirm that all orders have been fulfilled, and the planes have already been delivered to customers.

[Ovsigovets]

I like the way you juggle words and concepts)))) in other words, "juggle" ... I will repeat for you once again, since your understanding is also not very good. ORDER means a CONTRACT ..... a memorandum is NOT an ORDER ..... and that's why you scan a part of the photo)))) because the right half just confirms my words. That is, you did not answer the person, but deliberately trying to hide some of the information, you are misleading him - in other words, you are LIEING like a gelding ... and the number ZERO is relevant in that photo only in the line where the CONTRACT is indicated and you are lying AGAIN ... .. and leave all your games with words for the girls ... so tell them that "hanging" is better than "standing")))) because your excuses, in fact, are

[Bad_gr]

Hard case. I have no more questions.

[Ovsigovets]

that's right .... a difficult case)))))) I repeat .... there are no fools here to rub in nonsense ... so let your family fill it with such gamma throws ... I don't need it. .. I write "me" because for me personally you are trying to rub in some kind of "garbage" .... for which in a decent company you would have been beaten in the face for disrespect

[Bad_gr]

Quote: Ovsigovets

I repeat ... there are no fools here

Here in this, I just doubt it.

[Ovsigovets]

mmmmm ... understandable)))) this is called "a good mine, with a bad game" ...... I didn't force you to juggle)))) you did it yourself and then you were "caught" and poked your nose in the pussies )))) and my God))) it was offended)))))) so you are nice person DO NOT LIE ... and you will not smell your own ..... but the fact that you are "not a distant mind" I already I have no doubt ... you are also stoned

[Glagol1]

There is no avionics of its own, it will be expensive from amers, the plane is raw, not finished, more than 1-2 pcs. will not be able to release it a year. Accidents are inevitable. Clowns ...

[Reserve buildbat]

To replace the An-12 and An-26? So it's like planes of different classes? The pace is impressive though. In 2015. first flight, in 2021. have assembled one more fuselage, and "in 4 years" (until 2025?) they intend to assemble 3 aircraft.

[jncnfdybr]

The fuselage of the MRI also stands there somewhere. How many years already. But here it does not fly.)) The MRIYA built in the USSR is flying.