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US Navy personnel complained about lack of retail outlets at military bases

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It became known about the complaints of American sailors to the command in connection with the fact that at the US naval bases there is not a sufficient number of outlets where it would be possible to purchase the necessary goods. The US Navy sailors noted that it is extremely difficult to order goods, including food, through the courier service, since deliveries are not allowed into the territory of the bases, and the checkpoints are often 2-3 km from the direct place of duty. In this regard, the servicemen of the US naval forces asked the command to "think" either over the possibility of admitting representatives of the delivery service to military bases, or over the creation of additional retail outlets on the territory of military facilities.


The command, as it turned out, decided to meet the requests of subordinates. It became known that additional stores ("micromarkets") will be opened on the territory of naval bases, in which servicemen of the Navy and civilian employees of military bases will be able to purchase certain goods.

From the comment of a spokesman for the US Navy Exchange (Household) Command:

Licensed retail outlets already exist at a number of our military bases. But sometimes the number of military personnel at these bases is so great that one small shop is simply not enough to serve everyone. We decided to expand the network of retail outlets at the bases.

It is reported that a store has been opened for one of the Pentagon-affiliated submarine chains in New London, Connecticut.

Rohanna Hatfield, spokesman for the U.S. Navy's Welfare Command:

Military personnel there often do not have full access to food and drinks even when they need them. We are solving this problem by opening a new store. Prior to that, we have already opened more than 40 stores on the territory of military bases, including in barracks and hangars where maintenance is carried out. We always select the places where the location of the outlet will be the most optimal.

The stores that open are reported to be open XNUMX hours a day and most often serve US naval personnel primarily food items, including prepared meals (burgers, salads, some hot dishes or microwave dishes), as well as drinks and convenience foods.
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  1. Mouse
    Mouse 20 May 2021 07: 18
    +2
    don't they complain about the lack of jerks yet? belay
    1. Mitroha
      Mitroha 20 May 2021 07: 21
      +7
      that at US naval bases there is not a sufficient number of retail outlets where it would be possible to purchase the necessary goods

      Are there few dealers? Well, nothing, now colleagues from Afgan will return and improve the situation laughing
      You will have variety and availability
      1. NIKN
        NIKN 20 May 2021 08: 39
        +3
        that there are not enough retail outlets at US naval bases,
        Are Pyaterochka and Magnet already participating in the competition?
        1. Lionnvrsk
          Lionnvrsk 20 May 2021 11: 20
          +2
          Quote: NIKNN
          Are Pyaterochka and Magnet already participating in the competition?

          And who will be the sellers there? Petrov and Boshirov? repeat
          1. Alexander 3
            Alexander 3 20 May 2021 11: 58
            0
            Well, who will offer them a purgen with a sandwich, with cola, with whiskey, for a complete perception of the world around.
    2. Peak
      Peak 20 May 2021 07: 23
      0
      Quote: Mouse
      don't they complain about the lack of jerks yet? belay


      This is evident later, after filling the womb.

      The US Navy sailors noted that it is extremely difficult to order goods, including food, through the courier service, since deliveries are not allowed into the territory of the bases, and the checkpoints are often 2-3 km from the direct place of duty.


      Either gluttons, or very bad with feeding in the US Navy.

      There is no third No.
      1. Stas Sv
        Stas Sv 20 May 2021 09: 25
        +3
        Well I do not know. We spent 4 days in Kandahar, feeding is quite decent.
        As for the "aftershocks" in Bagram, I counted more than 15 of them. Something like this winked
        1. Peak
          Peak 20 May 2021 09: 27
          -1
          Quote: Stas Sv
          Well I do not know. We spent 4 days in Kandahar, feeding is quite decent.


          Quote: PiK
          Either gluttons, or very badly with feeding in US Navy.


          Are you not Psaki? Otherwise I somehow did not see the sea in Kandahar request
          1. Anachoret
            Anachoret 20 May 2021 09: 32
            -1
            Rather, Peter Justesen will enrich himself at these points)) or are the military fed from less secure sources ?? ))
    3. Thrifty
      Thrifty 20 May 2021 07: 25
      +3
      Mouse took the paddle, dug a hole, did the job lol , the "larva" dripped lol I was impatient again - I took the paddle ... lol
      1. Peak
        Peak 20 May 2021 07: 28
        +5
        Quote: Thrifty
        Mouse-took the paddle, dug a hole, did the job lol, dripped the "larva" lol It was in the urge to take the paddle again ...

        Imagine the flight deck of an aircraft carrier ...
        1. Mouse
          Mouse 20 May 2021 07: 31
          +3
          the board is not considered? wassat
          1. nnm
            nnm 20 May 2021 07: 45
            +4
            And if there is a shortage of toilet paper, then after the "departure of natural needs" you can simply stretch under the keel of the aircraft carrier a couple of times)))
          2. Ruslan Sulima
            Ruslan Sulima 20 May 2021 08: 50
            0
            the board is not considered? wassat

            Well, I don’t know about them, even spitting overboard was considered sacrilege.
        2. Thrifty
          Thrifty 20 May 2021 07: 35
          +3
          Picked up a jackhammer, drilled a "hole", did the job, paved the deck lol , it was impatient, I took the jackhammer again ... wassat
        3. salad
          salad 20 May 2021 07: 54
          +1
          Yeah) along the runway ashot with tents, with shauroma and vegetables)
      2. Guru
        Guru 20 May 2021 10: 28
        0
        Mouse - took the paddle, dug a hole, did the job lol, dripped the "larva" lol It was so hard to take the paddle again .... lol
        And there is another larva laughing or an anti-personnel mine.
    4. nnm
      nnm 20 May 2021 07: 32
      +5
      They will continue to complain - they will need to send the warrant officers and warrant officers to help them and open the military trade "caps". Then they will stop whining right away.
      and checkpoints are often located 2-3 km from the direct place of duty

      And the problem, in fact, is what?
      - one Arkharovets (preferably, tolerantly, from the white minority) is outfitted, puts on his stiletto heels and rushes to the checkpoint for hamburgers for his Negro grandfather with a fast deer. Everything, the problem is solved.
      1. Mouse
        Mouse 20 May 2021 07: 35
        +4
        it seems that they will not stop ... then give them women ... wassat
        1. nnm
          nnm 20 May 2021 07: 41
          +4
          Colleague, you live in the last century !!! No respect for the stars and stripes !!! They are all themselves, colleague, exclusively themselves ...
        2. Russ
          Russ 20 May 2021 07: 41
          +4
          yes they are there ... on my own ... and women do not need ... repeat
          1. Peak
            Peak 20 May 2021 07: 47
            +3
            Quote: Russia
            yes they are there ... on my own ... and women do not need ... repeat

            The first ever gay US Navy helicopter, with a fully gay crew. The next step is a completely gay aircraft carrier.


            1. nnm
              nnm 20 May 2021 07: 52
              +5
              I can imagine what would have happened to our company commander or foreman if he saw such a uniform from a soldier as in the photo on the right ...
              Laughter with laughter, but I noticed that lately, in the American, English press in the comments of local readers, everyone is shocked by what is happening to them with the acquisition of drugs.
              I remember the comment of one Englishman (the article was about a commercial about recruiting homosexuals):
              “That's it, our army is gone. If the Russians just say something offensive to a megaphone, ours will be offended, cry and run away from their positions” (not a quote, but close to the original text).
              1. Sergey Aleksandrovich
                Sergey Aleksandrovich 20 May 2021 08: 28
                0
                So our people also walked in shorts in the tropics, and they were not accused of being gay.
                1. nnm
                  nnm 20 May 2021 08: 42
                  +1
                  Well, yes ... apparently, our uniform for the tropics also provides for some kind of silk shorts along the length that barely cover the secondary sexual characteristics and white knee-high socks under the knee boots. Can you see a photo somewhere, for example, of a US admiral in such a "uniform"? Surely, the uniform is the same.
                  And then say that stiletto heels for men correct posture?
                  1. Sergey Aleksandrovich
                    Sergey Aleksandrovich 20 May 2021 08: 45
                    -2
                    But how good the alcoholic T-shirt was on the soldier, it was dear to look at the sagging shoulder straps and underpants up to the knees from the bath with linen lice. wassat
                    1. nnm
                      nnm 20 May 2021 08: 53
                      0
                      What lice, go straight to the footcloths and pants, do not waste time on trifles! Well, add syphilis to lice, a passion for rape of civilians, etc.
                      And end up loving to do advertising photos in all this splendor.
                      1. Sergey Aleksandrovich
                        Sergey Aleksandrovich 20 May 2021 08: 58
                        -5
                        Syphilis is more for you gentlemen. And we were given lice with fresh linen right in the bathhouse. Lice and nits in the folds of winter linen are especially good, you can't get them and you can't see them on a white background. This is a service so a service, no mattress covers in shorts.
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        3. Russ
          Russ 20 May 2021 07: 52
          +7
          yes ugh on them !!!! three times........ yes
        4. abrakadabre
          abrakadabre 20 May 2021 09: 11
          +1
          Next in line is a completely gay aircraft carrier.
          And the submarine ... also ege-gay ...
          1. Andrei Nikolaevich
            Andrei Nikolaevich 20 May 2021 10: 34
            +1
            Well, you turned it down, about the gay submarine3!)) I was so laughing! I can imagine what kind of teams are given ..) Instead of a rank and position - "handsome or darling")) Ugh! Disgusting! (((
        5. Andrei Nikolaevich
          Andrei Nikolaevich 20 May 2021 10: 29
          0
          This flag would be hung over the ship. This is the kind of autonomy of the ship. And there is no need to enter ports. Always near "friend's ass"))
    5. Alexander 3
      Alexander 3 20 May 2021 12: 25
      0
      What for. They will treat each other in turn.
  2. Egoza
    Egoza 20 May 2021 07: 51
    +2
    Quote: nnm
    it will be necessary for them to send the chief ensigns to help them and open the military trade "caps". Then they will stop whining right away.

    Better to send a peddler on high heels! There is such a tovarisch (P and B) from submarine to submarine and trades in the best Russian traditions ... well, and examines everything there well.
  • Crimean partisan 1974
    Crimean partisan 1974 20 May 2021 07: 52
    0
    don't they complain about the lack of jerks yet?
    ... they had a case in the fleet, the babs sailors demanded that female latrine be made on the ships, well, it can be done on surface troughs, but it is problematic in eyeliners, so that's it ... although I don't understand what the female latrine is different from male
    1. Peak
      Peak 20 May 2021 07: 54
      +2
      Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
      although I do not understand how the female latrine differs from the male

      Lack of urine yes laughing
      1. Crimean partisan 1974
        Crimean partisan 1974 20 May 2021 08: 29
        0
        Lack of urine
        ... in mlyn, I did not know, because on our warships their complete absence of presence ...
        1. Peak
          Peak 20 May 2021 09: 05
          -1
          Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
          ... in mlyn, I did not know, because on our warships their complete absence of presence ...

          Our Navy and the US Navy have completely different requests.
          1. Clear
            Clear 20 May 2021 10: 09
            0
            Quote: PiK
            Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
            ... in mlyn, I did not know, because on our warships their complete absence of presence ...

            Our Navy and the US Navy have completely different requests.

            The requests may be the same, but the answers are different. winked
      2. Guru
        Guru 20 May 2021 10: 31
        0
        Lack of urine yes laughing
        And the presence of "Bidet" wink
    2. nnm
      nnm 20 May 2021 08: 05
      +1
      Apparently, they demanded a bidet, a 2 * 3m mirror and all sorts of hair dryers ... well, judge for yourself how without all this they could carry out combat missions))
      She sits on alert duty in front of the monitor, and then just the carcasses flowed ... that's all, tragedy !!! We must drop everything and run into the latrine for an hour to put ourselves in order.
      "Suddenly there is a war, and I am not wearing makeup!"
  • Finches
    Finches 20 May 2021 08: 12
    +3
    We call it CHIPOK, the legend says that this name went back to the 20s - "Part of the Individual Food Supply for the Red Army". But there are many versions, but how do the Yankees call their cafe-storage facilities in everyday life?
    1. Crimean partisan 1974
      Crimean partisan 1974 20 May 2021 08: 37
      +2
      We call it CHIPOK,
      ... in ... one can immediately see the serviceman ... I still have the terms -chip, deck, latrine-indestructible and unforgettable
  • Terenin
    Terenin 20 May 2021 08: 43
    +4
    Military personnel there often do not have full access to food and drink even when they need it.

    Would write easier "when to eat hunting".
    Usually, after lights out, we fried potatoes in pan laughing
    1. Clear
      Clear 20 May 2021 10: 12
      +1
      Quote: Terenin
      Military personnel there often do not have full access to food and drink even when they need it.

      Would write easier "when to eat hunting".
      Usually, after lights out, we fried potatoes in pan laughing

      You are heartless, you didn't let anyone sleep with the smell of fried potatoes lol
  • Clear
    Clear 20 May 2021 10: 08
    +1
    Quote: Mouse
    don't they complain about the lack of jerks yet? belay

    Logically, if you don't feed, then shocks are not needed. lol
  • Hypertension
    Hypertension 20 May 2021 10: 24
    0
    What kind of manner is it - to despise people for their desire for comfort? Why is it impossible to live like a human being in the army? In modern conflicts, technology decides. What can some barmaley, wiping himself with a stone, do against a UAV operator in a comfortable chair with popcorn?
    Well, if in Russia they like to endure hardships and hardships so much, can we introduce recruiting duty for 25 years with gauntlets? So let's rub our nose for these NATO sissies!
    And the roads should already be perceived as a means for convenient movement across our vast country, and not as an "anti-tank weapon against Western aggressors."
    1. Crimean partisan 1974
      Crimean partisan 1974 20 May 2021 11: 14
      0
      What kind of manner is it - to despise people for their desire for comfort?
      ..... good manners ... this is part of the military training program, hardships and hardships allow you to overcome hardships and hardships in extreme situations ... this is civilian comfort, this is happiness. and for the military, comfort can turn into hell in one second.
      With regards to the barmaley ... barmaley by and large are partisans, and the partisans, in principle, have logistics and motivation a hundred times stronger than that of the UAV operator ... that is why the massacre in Afghanistan has been 20 years, in Iraq it has been 20 years, in Syria it is already 15 years, in Libya so far only 7 years ... so shake your mustache what military hardships and hardships are
      1. Hypertension
        Hypertension 20 May 2021 11: 21
        -1
        Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
        .so shake on your mustache what military hardships and hardships are

        Exactly. Give recruits for a quarter of a century!
        But seriously, you are reasoning according to the patterns of past wars.
        And in Afghanistan and other Iraqi fuss is going on because there is no goal to totally clean everything up there. "Mirnyak" cannot be touched. And so these barmaley, with their hundredfold motivation and thermal silhouettes in the eyepiece of modern sighting devices, would have butchered a turtle like a god.
        1. Crimean partisan 1974
          Crimean partisan 1974 20 May 2021 11: 29
          0
          "Mirnyak" cannot be touched.
          according to the latest reports from Lebanon, the Gaza Strip, I doubt it, or rather I don’t even doubt it, but I am convinced that the "peacemaker" is just in vopadalov regularly
          Exactly. Give recruits for a quarter of a century! .... well, I somehow served 25 calendars and nothing, ... truth not without consequences, but nevertheless he is alive, not very healthy, but with pension provision
          1. Hypertension
            Hypertension 20 May 2021 11: 38
            -1
            Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
            well, I somehow served 25 calendars and nothing, ... but it didn't go without consequences, but nevertheless I'm alive, not very healthy, but with a pension

            ... and his small plot of land near Capua ... Almost the words of a Roman legionnaire ...
            Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
            according to the latest reports from Lebanon, the Gaza Strip, I doubt it, or rather I don’t even doubt it, but I am convinced that the "peacemaker" is just in vopadalov regularly

            Yes, where there is peace, where there is no peace, you cannot tell. Horses, people mixed in a heap ... And the local peacekeeper is such a petri dish for the barmaley.
            1. Crimean partisan 1974
              Crimean partisan 1974 20 May 2021 11: 43
              0
              Almost the words of a Roman legionary ...
              ...... there is. but this particular ... does not apply to the article ... back to our rams ...
              I was amused by the loss of the Norwegian frigate and the regular collisions of the troughs of the US Navy ..... this is how to understand !!! the chips are to blame or something else
              1. Hypertension
                Hypertension 20 May 2021 11: 51
                -1
                Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
                I was amused by the loss of a Norwegian frigate

                Didn't the flooding of the floating dock PD-50 amuse you? And the loss of two decks from Kuzi? And the troughs of the US Navy collide, because there is something to collide. Now, if someone has half of the ships being repaired, then they stand calmly and do not collide.
                1. Crimean partisan 1974
                  Crimean partisan 1974 20 May 2021 11: 58
                  +2
                  Didn't the flooding of the floating dock PD-50 amuse you?
                  .... not ... the topic was sucked from all sides .... the doc is old. .. money for repair work was either not allocated or was plundered ... and Natev's troughs are pretty well maintained in technical support, but the human factor in negligee ... so that's the question ... in basic taverns ...... ,
                  1. Hypertension
                    Hypertension 20 May 2021 12: 04
                    -1
                    Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
                    money for repair work was either not allocated or was plundered ...

                    Well, it goes without saying ...
                    Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
                    and Natev's troughs are pretty well serviced in technical support, but the human factor is negligible.

                    Naturally, the human factor. In general, it is the same everywhere. But the technique is not perfect either. Even a state one. And again: if they have, conditionally, one hundred units of equipment, and we have ten, then they will have more accidents.
                    1. Crimean partisan 1974
                      Crimean partisan 1974 20 May 2021 12: 22
                      0
                      And again: if they have, conditionally, one hundred units of equipment, and we have ten, then they will have more accidents.
                      .... well, this is a priori, not contested .... nevertheless, bungling on a warship is a crime .... and in all cases it was like that .... one thing is "bulk" deliberate action, and another case collision ... the topic is familiar to me ... I served urgently on such a ship that was part of the conflict with Turkey in 1979
  • Thrifty
    Thrifty 20 May 2021 07: 22
    +2
    Not a problem, now I will call my friend wholesaler Armen wassat for their money will deliver anything anywhere in the world wassat
    1. nnm
      nnm 20 May 2021 07: 39
      +3
      Better immediately to the couriers of the year - to call Petrov or Bashirov. They say that there, at the overseas bases, many spiers and warehouses for some reason stumbled.
  • The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 20 May 2021 07: 34
    +3
    Anecdote almost to the topic:
    In a history lesson, the teacher enthusiastically talks about the topic of the lesson.
    Little Johnny receives a note from Masha:
    "I flew" ...
    Teacher:
    - Little Johnny! So what is the reason for the defeat of the first revolution?
    Little Johnny rises:
    - Eh, Marivanna, I WOULD HAVE YOUR PROBLEMS! ....
  • Evil troll
    Evil troll 20 May 2021 07: 36
    0
    And if the enemy ends up in a burger stand, then what? White flag?
    1. nnm
      nnm 20 May 2021 07: 49
      +4
      Colleague, don't you know? Under American law, such a horrific crime is a violation of the customs and rules of warfare and is regarded as genocide !!!
      Where does so much cruelty come from in you !!!!! ???
      There should be a limit to everything !!! And you immediately encroached on the sacred thing for each star and striped warrior ...
      1. Terenin
        Terenin 20 May 2021 08: 51
        +5
        Quote: nnm
        they encroached on the sacred for every star-striped warrior ...

        How dare you classify a US warrior as a male am
        Expect a complaint from gender minorities in ... The Hague laughing
    2. Clear
      Clear 20 May 2021 10: 14
      +2
      Quote: Angry Troll
      And if the enemy ends up in a burger stand, then what? White flag?

      Does the enemy eat all the burgers at once? belay
  • AlexVas44
    AlexVas44 20 May 2021 07: 47
    -1
    I read and even felt sorry for the American sailors, and vice versa, I was glad for ours. We have "Voentorg"! drinks
  • Bshkaus
    Bshkaus 20 May 2021 08: 01
    +1
    The comments remind me of an episode from the movie police academy, where two cadets shaved their heads, and the third asked to have a model haircut, after which the first two were surprised and asked "is it possible?", To which the third replied "yes, we are not in the army."
    In this case, we are talking about the army, but in our mentality, serving in the army is a forced business where you are initially treated like a lawless cattle (I don't want to offend anyone, it's about the attitude, not the people themselves) and this has been going on since tsarist times, when recruited for 25 years and did not bother with care because they were still serfs.
    Tell me, what's wrong with the fact that a soldier in his free time from service has the opportunity to additionally buy food or relax? There are already many stress factors in the army.
    And do not say "what if tomorrow is a war?" We had a serious war last time 80 years ago, and the soldiers are constantly suffering. 10 years ago I visited a friend's son in Moscow, they didn't have a kitchen in the stationary part! In Moscow !!!, 5 km from the Moscow Ring Road and in the field kitchen in tents. The food stank of machine oil, and the war never happened.
    Conscripts Israelis from the IDF go home to spend the night, and nothing, if necessary, the Arabs are regularly butchered under a nut.
    We do not need to mock people, coaching them with deprivation, but create a powerful supply system.
    But alas, religion does not allow
    1. nnm
      nnm 20 May 2021 08: 28
      +2
      About being treated like cattle ... let me guess - you never served! So? Therefore, judge the army by the "police academy".
      Otherwise, they would know how much time the officers spend with drugs, and how much is left for the family. Apparently, you think that precisely because of the weakness of our supply system, the capabilities of our army for redeployment surprise the same Americans? Maybe all these external relations do not understand the Americans with whom they prevent to achieve the same result?
      There is no need for horror stories about food now. About two years ago I was at my nephew's part - they were fed as in my time and never dreamed of.
      And the conscripts, in the main, experience hunger not from the fact that there is nothing, but from the fact that their fifth points were torn away from a hamburger and computers and drove to physo and polygons. For example, you were not surprised why, with comparable loads, the "young" are always hungry, while those who have served time are not?
      Well, the comparison of the IDF and the Arabs fighting with slingshots and homemade products is definitely "five"!
      1. Sergey Aleksandrovich
        Sergey Aleksandrovich 20 May 2021 09: 08
        -5
        I saw your army, our regiment duty officer came to the dining room in the evening and they collected fat from the soldier's cauldron on top of him into a plate. You made me very angry, who did not have enough time for a family. I did not think that I would paint this. Although 30 years have passed and maybe you are already from another army.
        1. nnm
          nnm 20 May 2021 09: 17
          +1
          I don’t remember what I had to drink with you for brotherhood.
          And I served in different armies ... both under Yeltsin and under Serdyukov it happened.
          The fact that there are different soldiers and officers is a fact. As well as all ordinary people. But to draw such global conclusions from isolated cases is not correct.
          1. Sergey Aleksandrovich
            Sergey Aleksandrovich 20 May 2021 09: 20
            -2
            So I fed the lice for 1,5 years, this cannot be attributed to isolated facts. And those on duty in the regiment had been raking fat from the soldier's cauldron for several months on their plates, until the headquarters found out what the senior lieutenants and captains were doing on duty.
            And give up your masterful habits, the Internet is allowed to appeal to you.
            1. nnm
              nnm 20 May 2021 09: 26
              +5
              This is an isolated fact. Well, tell us right away about what kind of soldiers around were white and fluffy - no hazing, no rats, no crimes, etc. But this does not mean that on the basis of this it is worth drawing a conclusion about what all the fighters in the army are terrible.
              And I don't know for sure your years of service, but I can assume that we are talking about the 90s and the officers ran to the soldier's cauldron not out of greed, but because in those years they did not pay cash allowance for 6+ months. from the word "absolutely". No soldering, no compensation .... nothing. but that doesn't justify them in any way.
              1. Sergey Aleksandrovich
                Sergey Aleksandrovich 20 May 2021 09: 29
                -4
                So hazing is again yours, a consequence of connivance, and a way of maintaining discipline in your way.
                And what is ratism, tell us in more detail, otherwise such matters are unknown to me?
                And the officer corps, it seems, should be the elite of society, and you and the l / s decided to compete in the nausea.
                And with the terms of service, you missed the mark, the duty officers were collecting fat from the boiler in the mid-80s, when it was a sin for them to complain about the allowance.
                1. nnm
                  nnm 20 May 2021 09: 38
                  +3
                  Come on???? Since you are so mad at the officers. Let's forget about the bylaws for a second.
                  Was it the officers who forced you to beat the young? Did the officers force you to beat off the kidneys of the rookies? Chasing them for vodka, having fun mocking them?
                  Aren't you confusing anything?
                  On the contrary, the officers somehow restrain you from this.
                  How many of the fighters did they save from prison or disbat for fights, not transferring cases to the prosecutor's office, but hammering the rules of conduct into your heads?
                  You, damn it, adult moose under 2 m tall !!! So, first of all, ask yourself who and how raised you and why you allow yourself to act in such a way in relation to the younger ones. The officer is neither mom nor dad to instill in your ADULT offspring the rules of conduct.
                  And now we again remember the charters and see the difference ... that they often rush with you from morning till night, live practically in dispositions, sacrificing their families. Responsible for your life, health, behavior for 25 hours a day all months of service. And all that you see and remember is how some moral ate fat. Moreover, I can even understand them, if we are talking about the 90s, but not at the expense of gorging on fighters
                  I repeat, among the soldiers, and among the generals, and among ordinary people, there are real people, and there are bastards. But to judge hundreds of thousands of people by one's own experience is not correct.
                  1. Sergey Aleksandrovich
                    Sergey Aleksandrovich 20 May 2021 09: 41
                    -6
                    And where did you get the idea that I beat the young? You haven't confused anything, why on earth did you decide to hang all the dirt on me? And hazing is a consequence of connivance and a sign of the decay of both the army and the state.
                    And I have not seen those living in the disposition and donating families.
                    1. nnm
                      nnm 20 May 2021 09: 57
                      +3
                      Wait .... you are your own contradiction:
                      Once you draw a general conclusion from the examples of the officers with whom you served, then it is logical to apply this principle to you. It doesn't matter if you hit or not. Mocked or not. Others did it! And according to your own logic, this can be extended to you.
                      2. Connivance? (Again, let's forget about the charter) you are adults, why should someone follow you - are you breaking the law, are you not going away, are you kidding me? You are legally capable and capable citizens and to commit a crime or not is only your decision and your choice. Half of you would have gone through a "diesel" - for hazing, for non-statutory, for AWOL, etc., if the officers did not try to fix you and not ruin your life.
                      3. The fact that you have not seen something does not mean that it does not exist. Let's take a simple example - how many officers and warrant officers did you have at the location of a unit or company? Probably 8 hours, like the managers in the offices, huh?
                  2. Bshkaus
                    Bshkaus 20 May 2021 10: 33
                    -2
                    now we again remember the charters and see the difference ..... that they often rush with you from morning till night, live practically in dispositions, sacrificing their families. Responsible for your life, health, behavior for 25 hours a day all months of service.

                    Excuse me, but who makes you? Have you become an officer by vocation and do you understand all the responsibility? If it’s hard, you can sign up and find a quiet job in order to devote more time to your family. Again, we are free people, and we do everything voluntarily, and if under duress, then why are you attacking me?
              2. Bshkaus
                Bshkaus 20 May 2021 10: 18
                +2
                This is an isolated fact. Well, tell us right away about what kind of soldiers around were white and fluffy - no hazing, no rats, no crimes, etc. But this does not mean that on the basis of this it is worth drawing a conclusion about what all the fighters in the army are terrible.

                Cleverly, you have translated the topic into the fighters and their moral character, but in fact only confirmed the existence of the problem by calling everything by their proper names.
                The army and everything that happens in it reflects the spiritual and moral state of society.
                You have repeated "an isolated case" several times. You know what? would be single, would not be so acutely heard by society. A friend of mine in the 82nd year in the northern fleet was torn off his leg, so this is really an isolated case, which many who do not know a friend remember because they served in those days, at least at the level of rumors.
                But soldiers' mothers and society don't talk about it every day. But the vague "all sorts of things happen" with us all the time.
                Conscripts are not prisoners who have social restrictions. They must have personal time because they are free personalities. In which law does it say that a soldier is limited in his rights free from the performance of his direct duties. Why, after working at the landfill, is it impossible to go to a cafe in the evening? Religion does not allow, or is it "so established"?
                1. nnm
                  nnm 20 May 2021 10: 25
                  0
                  I will answer a little later.
      2. Ruslan Sulima
        Ruslan Sulima 20 May 2021 09: 09
        +1
        Therefore, judge the army by the "police academy".

        I will not judge the army, I can say by the fleet (even though it is believed that our supply was better, taking into account the early 90s), in the first three months my mother ate ryahu in training) It is clear that those who are used to various homemade pickles are a lot which seems tasteless, but the calorie content of food, a tough regimen, and increased loads cannot be avoided. Yes, and I wanted to eat because they drove quite seriously, although, what for would it seem to hydroacoustics the ability to run long distances)
        On the ship, given the small crew, conscripts, there were no longer any problems with hunger, even among the young, barley was in bulk)
    2. Terenin
      Terenin 20 May 2021 09: 03
      +1
      Quote: Bshkaus
      military service is a bonded business where you are initially treated like a lawless cattle (I don't want to offend anyone, it's about the attitude, not the people themselves) and this has been going on since tsarist times, when they were recruited for 25 years and did not bother with care because all the same serfs.

      The films of pro-Western liberal directors have seen enough, when a disgusting Guards Derzhimorda officer, according to the established cliche, is always portrayed as a cruel monster who vilely mocks a cute and handsome soldier, and this soldier is for nothing they beat in the face, and the soldier, as a rule, has a snake in his heart anger at their superiors ...
      And then how to fight? fool
      Quote: Bshkaus


      We don't need to mock people
      Can you cite facts that have been ignored by the military prosecutor's office and the investigation?
      Quote: Bshkaus


      But alas, religion does not allow
      Everything is clear with you ...
      1. Bshkaus
        Bshkaus 20 May 2021 10: 25
        -2
        Can you cite facts that have been ignored by the military prosecutor's office and the investigation?

        The problem should not be solved by the prosecutor's office on a fait accompli, but by building a system aimed at preventing the manifestation of these facts as a phenomenon.
        Do you understand the difference between building the logic of these two judgments?
        1. Terenin
          Terenin 20 May 2021 12: 44
          +1
          Quote: Bshkaus
          but by building a system aimed at preventing the manifestation of these facts as a phenomenon.

          So explain this logic for building such a system.
          Ah, the construction difference
          Quote: Bshkaus
          the logic of these two judgments
          leave to the scientific community.
    3. Hypertension
      Hypertension 20 May 2021 11: 31
      0
      Quote: Bshkaus
      Tell me, what's wrong with the fact that a soldier in his free time from service has the opportunity to additionally buy food or relax?

      Yes, this is the Russian mentality. Like: even if our infrastructure is not important and salaries and pensions are small, but we are "in case of a war" to harsh conditions familiar. So we live ... A la - we are that, and we are getting stronger. In other words, it is making a good mine in a bad game. How hot: did not live richly, there is no need to start. “If it’s better than in 1913, then it’s already good.” (C) In short, many sayings and quotes on this topic can be recalled.
    4. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 20 May 2021 11: 41
      +2
      The soldier at the time of recruitment was no longer a serf. In reality, most of them, at least in the 19th century, did not serve for 25 years. Many managed to start families during the service or after it. And the children of these soldiers were not serfs either. Therefore, the landowners did not like recruitment kits so much and tried to give the soldiers, ordinary people, useless in the economy.
  • Machete
    Machete 20 May 2021 08: 09
    +4
    Jokes about the fact that they do not have enough cola in the war, not so, and jokes.
    1. Clear
      Clear 20 May 2021 10: 29
      +2
      Quote: Machete
      Jokes about the fact that they do not have enough cola in the war, not so, and jokes.

      In the war or in the bases, whiling away the time between operations?
      1. Machete
        Machete 20 May 2021 12: 48
        0
        This, it happens, is not a big difference.
        It depends on where the base is.
        For example, Iraq or Afghan is the front line. War. Or wherever in the States. Quite another matter.
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 20 May 2021 08: 47
    0
    Well, these will definitely win any war. laughing
  • ximkim
    ximkim 20 May 2021 09: 39
    0
    Interesting .. and the delivery of food from them will be done at military bases?
  • BISMARCK94
    BISMARCK94 20 May 2021 10: 23
    +1
    I understood one thing in the army. The most profitable business is a chip on the territory of the unit. Conscripts have nowhere to go and the prices you want to twist, no one is a decree
  • Normal ok
    Normal ok 20 May 2021 10: 43
    +1
    And the question is really important. I remember the wild queues at the only CHIPOK training center for the entire training center, on the day of the food delivery. It almost never came to fights.
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner 20 May 2021 10: 50
    0
    Right! More good and different chips or free access to the part for couriers delivering delicious treats. laughing
  • Paranoid50
    Paranoid50 20 May 2021 11: 57
    0
    Stores that open are reported to be open XNUMX/XNUMX
    Well, nishtyak. Suddenly inspired:
  • forester1971
    forester1971 20 May 2021 13: 55
    0
    asked the command to "think" either about the possibility of admitting representatives of the delivery service to military bases,

    Under the guise of couriers of the delivery service, the well-known Petrov and Boshirov can drop in to them. Be careful with your desires.
  • 76rtbr
    76rtbr 20 May 2021 15: 22
    +1
    poor fellows !!
  • NF68
    NF68 20 May 2021 16: 02
    0
    Poor fellows. So after all, they can lose weight.