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"Once upon a time we also had a caliber of 130 mm": in Romania about the serial production of the A-192M cannon in Russia

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The new Russian 130mm A-192M shipborne artillery system was declared mature and ready for serial production after several years of testing. This success of the defense industry of the Russian Federation caused nostalgia among the Romanian observer, who recalled the "glorious times" of his army in the past era.


The Russians persistently use this caliber [...] Once upon a time we also had a caliber of 130 mm

- writes Marius Zgureanu on the pages of Romania Military.

We are talking about the Romanian artillery model - the A412 cannon of 130 mm / 58 caliber of the 1982 model, which is a lighter version of the Soviet 130-mm M-46 cannon of the 1954 model (by 2,5 tons, having a weight of 6,3 tons). The A412 was manufactured at the Arsenal Resita site from 1982 to 1989, as a licensed copy of the Chinese Norinco Type 59-1 cannon. A412 were divided into divisions of artillery regiments of all four armies, subsequently 75 units were withdrawn to the reserve and in 2013 put up for sale.

Until the end of the 1970s, the Type 59-1 held record firing distances, was one of the best weapons in the world and could direct ammunition to a distance of 37 km when firing with special projectiles.

- explains the author.

Another representative of the 130-mm caliber was the KS-30 cannon, originally developed for launching anti-aircraft missiles, but used as coastal artillery until the 1990s. According to the author, it is possible that it is still in reserve.

Over the past 30 years, the Ministry of Defense has not added anything new, but has withdrawn the 76-mm gun (M82), 130-mm guns, the self-propelled installation Gvozdika / Model1989, as well as the M-30 122 mm cannon and the 98/100 mm howitzer (M -1993), leaving only 152-mm M81 and, probably, M85 survived

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  1. Thrifty
    Thrifty 19 May 2021 20: 02
    +4
    There are still adequate ones, and not
    Have Romanians forgotten how they lived under the "bloody dictator Cavushescu"?
  2. SERGE ANT
    SERGE ANT 19 May 2021 20: 02
    +22
    Russians use this caliber persistently
    Why not, if we have a good product.
    Characteristics
    Combat crew, people: 3;
    Caliber, mm: 130;
    Installation weight, kg: 24000-25000 (without ammunition);
    Firing range, km: - for sea targets up to 23 - for air targets up to 18
    Effective rate of fire, rds / min: about 30;
    Radar control area, km: up to 60;
    Reaction time, s: for an air target - 5, for a surface (coastal) target - 10-15;
    Time of transfer of fire to the next anti-ship missile system in the stream, s: 1;
    Continuous queue length, taking into account SAP, rds: up to 20;
    Ammunition for installation, shots: 22 - 60 (The number of ammunition ready for firing is determined by the capacity of the ship's artillery cellar);
    Types of projectiles: high-explosive fragmentation with HC, anti-aircraft with RV or DVM, practical;
    Projectile weight, kg: 33,4;
    Cartridge weight, kg: 52,8;
    Vertical guidance angles: -15 ° + 80 °;
    Horizontal guidance angle: 170 °;
    Power consumption over the network 3ph 380 V 50 Hz, kVA: up to 150
    1. Peter is not the first
      Peter is not the first 19 May 2021 20: 12
      +13
      And the characteristics are good, and even the Romanian is nostalgic, but the video let us down: too large a spread of shells, judging by the gaps.
    2. igor_sabadah
      igor_sabadah 31 May 2021 02: 59
      +1
      Why only 23 km range? M46 has more than 27km
    3. alexbyrcev
      alexbyrcev 31 May 2021 03: 39
      +1
      In what year and where did this gun come from?
  3. Russ
    Russ 19 May 2021 20: 05
    +7
    Once upon a time ...
    Once upon a time ...
  4. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 19 May 2021 20: 05
    +2
    "Once upon a time we also had a caliber of 130 mm."

    Yes, you had a lot of things until you exchanged it all for lacy Eurotrusel and tolerance ... crying
    1. Russ
      Russ 19 May 2021 20: 11
      +9
      It was, it was, it was, it was, but it passed, oh-oh ... oh-oh ... wink
    2. Alien From
      Alien From 19 May 2021 20: 19
      +2
      Jackals would remember how they fought for the Nazis in the Great Patriotic War am
      1. cat Rusich
        cat Rusich 19 May 2021 21: 33
        +6
        Quote: Alien From
        Jackals would remember how they fought for the Nazis in the Great Patriotic War am
        Romanians can remember how they fought against the Nazis ...
        On August 23, 1944, they "saw the light" and crossed over ...
        To the side of the allies.
        1. Vadim Ananyin
          Vadim Ananyin 19 May 2021 22: 04
          +5
          They did not change, but for a while they repainted.
          1. Split
            Split 20 May 2021 14: 05
            +2
            Pereobuli in flight (c) Modern terminology laughing
        2. Viktor Sergeev
          Viktor Sergeev 20 May 2021 08: 34
          +3
          In time to betray, it is not to betray, but to foresee. They crossed over when they realized it was time to dump. Common jackals.
        3. 210ox
          210ox 20 May 2021 19: 12
          0
          But in our Kuban old people with a shudder remember the Romanians during the occupation.
      2. Non liberoid Russian
        Non liberoid Russian 20 May 2021 05: 07
        -12%
        oh god, how much anger is ... remember how many Russians fought for the Nazis, or is it something else? Romanians and partisans well against the Germans
        1. unhappy
          unhappy 20 May 2021 07: 54
          +5
          Romanian partisan? humor joke
          laughing
        2. Viktor Sergeev
          Viktor Sergeev 20 May 2021 08: 37
          +3
          Thank you for the anecdote about the Romanian partisans, tell us more about Bandera and his fight against Hitler, let's laugh. Our traitors fought against us and we will sort it out with them ourselves, this is our misfortune, but the Romanians came to our land, and what they did in Odessa is better not to remember, for that they were not taken prisoner very much.
          1. Non liberoid Russian
            Non liberoid Russian 23 May 2021 05: 51
            -1
            but in fact there is something to say or only stupid jokes and strains remained?
  5. Ryaruav
    Ryaruav 19 May 2021 20: 11
    +4
    this is our traditional caliber since the First World War
    1. alexbyrcev
      alexbyrcev 31 May 2021 03: 34
      0
      This is an Italian naval cannon that came to us together with the leaders of the destroyers. And together with the 100-mm one. And it was manufactured under a license for sailors. From it a barrel with a bolt was taken and it turned out, an excellent (army) M-46 cannon (arr 1953) They were fired in hundreds, a lot went abroad, I really know that there is a strong point in Syria (battery M-46 6pcs) to which, within a radius of 38 km, they are afraid to approach, they shoot our active-rocket projectiles. we have hundreds of them in warehouses - guns, not shells.
  6. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 19 May 2021 20: 12
    +2
    recourse Once upon a time we also had a caliber of 130 mm ... Why should they even have an army?
  7. isv000
    isv000 19 May 2021 20: 21
    +4
    Lost - there is nothing to remember, the Yankees will push you off the lord's shoulder for hard currency ...
  8. Aviator_
    Aviator_ 19 May 2021 20: 29
    +9
    was the KS-30 cannon, originally developed to launch anti-aircraft missiles,

    What is this nonsense? This is when anti-aircraft missiles were launched through the KS-30? Or does the author call it active rockets?
    1. Anatole Klim
      Anatole Klim 19 May 2021 21: 00
      +5
      Quote: Aviator_
      What is this nonsense? This is when anti-aircraft missiles were launched through the KS-30? Or does the author call it active rockets?

      As far as I remember, only fragmentation shots were included in the KS-30 ammunition, they also did practical ones for training firing, but the ARS anti-aircraft shells, this is something interesting, I never heard that the ARS anti-aircraft shells were, there is already a range in height was 19,5 km, quite enough even for modern combat.
      1. Aviator_
        Aviator_ 19 May 2021 21: 02
        +7
        So I was surprised, there was no ARS at that time (early 50s), especially for anti-aircraft guns. In Romania, there are also victims of the exam.
    2. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I 20 May 2021 04: 54
      +4
      Quote: Aviator_
      when was anti-aircraft missiles launched through the KS-30? Or does the author call it active rockets?

      The author just calls the usual anti-aircraft shells! He's a foreigner ... he can!
  9. Elena Akinfieva
    Elena Akinfieva 19 May 2021 20: 57
    +1
    It was, but it swam.
  10. Eldorado
    Eldorado 19 May 2021 21: 11
    +4
    The photo in the article is a completely different gun.
  11. Crabong
    Crabong 19 May 2021 21: 59
    0
    A "mature" artillery system is something new ...
  12. Basarev
    Basarev 19 May 2021 22: 14
    +3
    Eh, if I could make a three-gun turret for this gun ... And recreate the cruiser Sverdlov at a new level.
    1. bk0010
      bk0010 20 May 2021 00: 02
      +4
      Quote: Basarev
      Eh, if I could make a three-gun turret for this gun ... And recreate the cruiser Sverdlov at a new level.
      For a cruiser, 130-mm is not enough, they put from 150 mm there. Three-gun 130s were not made: this is a universal weapon, the turret should not only shoot often, but also spin quickly, i.e. be not too heavy. Art. a cruiser is not needed now, but a monitor of some kind to support the landing could be useful so that expensive and unarmored ships do not pull under fire from the shore.
      1. Rzzz
        Rzzz 20 May 2021 07: 07
        +1
        Quote: bk0010
        We didn't make three-gun 130s: uh

        Even a two-gun weapon is considered a design mistake. The cannons shoot there in turn, but each shot of the off-center cannon knocks down the aiming, and the cannon takes time to restore it, and this time. As a result, the rate of fire is the same as that of a single-gun turret, even worse, and the weight, complexity and price are much higher.
      2. Sergey Aleksandrovich
        Sergey Aleksandrovich 20 May 2021 08: 44
        0
        Need art. cruiser or not is a difficult question. The same "Coalition" is so long-range that it can be put on some large landing ship. Again, tactical nuclear weapons can be taken with you, aircraft carriers can be scared away.
  13. Ovsigovets
    Ovsigovets 19 May 2021 22: 41
    +5
    There used to be times
    And now for the moments.
    The dick used to rise
    And now - the pressure ...
  14. d1975
    d1975 19 May 2021 22: 54
    +2
    This is the lot of the countries-lovers, it will be even worse in the future. The only thing they do well is to bark at the Russian Federation, and to receive handouts from the EEC. And why do they need all this if the country is under 100% sight of the Russian Federation after the placement of amerikosov there. In a word, hangers-on.
  15. Yuriy71
    Yuriy71 19 May 2021 23: 16
    +2
    The past is for that and the past is that it has passed!)))
  16. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 20 May 2021 02: 29
    +2
    It remains at the end of the article to give an interview with the Romanian pensioner: "But under Ceausescu, I had a length ...."!
  17. bpk572
    bpk572 20 May 2021 09: 10
    +1
    For what purpose did the author posted a photo of a 100-mm AK-100 gun mount from the experimental battery of the Rzhev test site?
    1. Intruder
      Intruder 20 May 2021 12: 32
      0
      photo of a 100-mm gun mount AK-100 from an experimental battery
      what got into copying pictures in google, then put it ... wink
  18. Intruder
    Intruder 20 May 2021 12: 31
    0
    Once upon a time we also had a caliber of 130 mm
    Well, of course, they supplied them with all kinds of different weapons, from the bounty of the kind and mighty Union, and then the freebie left their banquet, the West helped them in this, but not in everything !!! laughing
  19. alexbyrcev
    alexbyrcev 31 May 2021 03: 51
    0
    Nonsense, M-46 weighed 7,7t, A412-6,3t, and where the difference in weight is 2,5 tons. By the way, the M-46 is active-reactive hitting 38 km.