"Once upon a time we also had a caliber of 130 mm": in Romania about the serial production of the A-192M cannon in Russia

The new Russian 130mm A-192M shipborne artillery system was declared mature and ready for serial production after several years of testing. This success of the defense industry of the Russian Federation caused nostalgia among the Romanian observer, who recalled the "glorious times" of his army in the past era.

The Russians persistently use this caliber [...] Once upon a time we also had a caliber of 130 mm

- writes Marius Zgureanu on the pages of Romania Military.

We are talking about the Romanian artillery model - the A412 cannon of 130 mm / 58 caliber of the 1982 model, which is a lighter version of the Soviet 130-mm M-46 cannon of the 1954 model (by 2,5 tons, having a weight of 6,3 tons). The A412 was manufactured at the Arsenal Resita site from 1982 to 1989, as a licensed copy of the Chinese Norinco Type 59-1 cannon. A412 were divided into divisions of artillery regiments of all four armies, subsequently 75 units were withdrawn to the reserve and in 2013 put up for sale.

Until the end of the 1970s, the Type 59-1 held record firing distances, was one of the best weapons in the world and could direct ammunition to a distance of 37 km when firing with special projectiles.

- explains the author.

Another representative of the 130-mm caliber was the KS-30 cannon, originally developed for launching anti-aircraft missiles, but used as coastal artillery until the 1990s. According to the author, it is possible that it is still in reserve.

Over the past 30 years, the Ministry of Defense has not added anything new, but has withdrawn the 76-mm gun (M82), 130-mm guns, the self-propelled installation Gvozdika / Model1989, as well as the M-30 122 mm cannon and the 98/100 mm howitzer (M -1993), leaving only 152-mm M81 and, probably, M85 survived

- concludes browser.

Comments

[Thrifty]

There are still adequate ones, and not
Have Romanians forgotten how they lived under the "bloody dictator Cavushescu"?

[SERGE ANT]

Russians use this caliber persistently

Why not, if we have a good product.

Features
Combat crew, people: 3;
Caliber, mm: 130;
Installation weight, kg: 24000-25000 (without ammunition);
Firing range, km: - for sea targets up to 23 - for air targets up to 18
Effective rate of fire, rds / min: about 30;
Radar control area, km: up to 60;
Reaction time, s: for an air target - 5, for a surface (coastal) target - 10-15;
Time of transfer of fire to the next anti-ship missile system in the stream, s: 1;
Continuous queue length, taking into account SAP, rds: up to 20;
Ammunition for installation, shots: 22 - 60 (The number of ammunition ready for firing is determined by the capacity of the ship's artillery cellar);
Types of projectiles: high-explosive fragmentation with HC, anti-aircraft with RV or DVM, practical;
Projectile weight, kg: 33,4;
Cartridge weight, kg: 52,8;
Vertical guidance angles: -15 ° + 80 °;
Horizontal guidance angle: 170 °;
Power consumption over the network 3ph 380 V 50 Hz, kVA: up to 150

[Peter is not the first]

And the characteristics are good, and even the Romanian is nostalgic, but the video let us down: too large a spread of shells, judging by the gaps.

[igor_sabadah]

Why only 23 km range? M46 has more than 27km

[alexbyrcev]

In what year and where did this gun come from?

[Russ]

Once upon a time ...
Once upon a time ...

[Vasyan1971]

"Once upon a time we also had a caliber of 130 mm."

Yes, you had a lot of things until you exchanged it all for lacy Eurotrusel and tolerance ...

[Russ]

It was, it was, it was, it was, but it passed, oh-oh ... oh-oh ...

[Alien From]

Jackals would remember how they fought for the Nazis in the Great Patriotic War

[cat Rusich]

Quote: Alien From

Jackals would remember how they fought for the Nazis in the Great Patriotic War

Romanians can remember how they fought against the Nazis ...
On August 23, 1944, they "saw the light" and crossed over ...
To the side of the allies.

[Vadim Ananyin]

They did not change, but for a while they repainted.

[Split]

Pereobuli in flight (c) Modern terminology

[Viktor Sergeev]

In time to betray, it is not to betray, but to foresee. They crossed over when they realized it was time to dump. Common jackals.

[210ox]

But in our Kuban old people with a shudder remember the Romanians during the occupation.

[Non liberoid Russian]

oh god, how much anger is ... remember how many Russians fought for the Nazis, or is it something else? Romanians and partisans well against the Germans

[unhappy]

Romanian partisan? humor joke

[Viktor Sergeev]

Thank you for the anecdote about the Romanian partisans, tell us more about Bandera and his fight against Hitler, let's laugh. Our traitors fought against us and we will sort it out with them ourselves, this is our misfortune, but the Romanians came to our land, and what they did in Odessa is better not to remember, for that they were not taken prisoner very much.

[Non liberoid Russian]

but in fact there is something to say or only stupid jokes and strains remained?

[Ryaruav]

this is our traditional caliber since the First World War

[alexbyrcev]

This is an Italian naval cannon that came to us together with the leaders of the destroyers. And together with the 100-mm one. And it was manufactured under a license for sailors. From it a barrel with a bolt was taken and it turned out, an excellent (army) M-46 cannon (arr 1953) They were fired in hundreds, a lot went abroad, I really know that there is a strong point in Syria (battery M-46 6pcs) to which, within a radius of 38 km, they are afraid to approach, they shoot our active-rocket projectiles. we have hundreds of them in warehouses - guns, not shells.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Once upon a time we also had a caliber of 130 mm ... Why should they even have an army?

[isv000]

Lost - there is nothing to remember, the Yankees will push you off the lord's shoulder for hard currency ...

[Aviator_]

was the KS-30 cannon, originally developed to launch anti-aircraft missiles,

What is this nonsense? This is when anti-aircraft missiles were launched through the KS-30? Or does the author call it active rockets?

[Anatole Klim]

Quote: Aviator_

What is this nonsense? This is when anti-aircraft missiles were launched through the KS-30? Or does the author call it active rockets?

As far as I remember, only fragmentation shots were included in the KS-30 ammunition, they also did practical ones for training firing, but the ARS anti-aircraft shells, this is something interesting, I never heard that the ARS anti-aircraft shells were, there is already a range in height was 19,5 km, quite enough even for modern combat.

[Aviator_]

So I was surprised, there was no ARS at that time (early 50s), especially for anti-aircraft guns. In Romania, there are also victims of the exam.

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: Aviator_

when was anti-aircraft missiles launched through the KS-30? Or does the author call it active rockets?

The author just calls the usual anti-aircraft shells! He's a foreigner ... he can!

[Elena Akinfieva]

It was, but it swam.

[Eldorado]

The photo in the article is a completely different gun.

[Crabong]

A "mature" artillery system is something new ...

[Basarev]

Eh, if I could make a three-gun turret for this gun ... And recreate the cruiser Sverdlov at a new level.

[bk0010]

Quote: Basarev

Eh, if I could make a three-gun turret for this gun ... And recreate the cruiser Sverdlov at a new level.

For a cruiser, 130-mm is not enough, they put from 150 mm there. Three-gun 130s were not made: this is a universal weapon, the turret should not only shoot often, but also spin quickly, i.e. be not too heavy. Art. a cruiser is not needed now, but a monitor of some kind to support the landing could be useful so that expensive and unarmored ships do not pull under fire from the shore.

[Rzzz]

Quote: bk0010

We didn't make three-gun 130s: uh

Even a two-gun weapon is considered a design mistake. The cannons shoot there in turn, but each shot of the off-center cannon knocks down the aiming, and the cannon takes time to restore it, and this time. As a result, the rate of fire is the same as that of a single-gun turret, even worse, and the weight, complexity and price are much higher.

[Pavel the builder]

Two guns in a vertical plane ... it's not so difficult to make and organize the supply of shells ... but it is more profitable to have two towers then to have - on two sides you can shoot

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

Need art. cruiser or not is a difficult question. The same "Coalition" is so long-range that it can be put on some large landing ship. Again, tactical nuclear weapons can be taken with you, aircraft carriers can be scared away.

[Ovsigovets]

There used to be times
And now for the moments.
The dick used to rise
And now - the pressure ...

[d1975]

This is the lot of the countries-lovers, it will be even worse in the future. The only thing they do well is to bark at the Russian Federation, and to receive handouts from the EEC. And why do they need all this if the country is under 100% sight of the Russian Federation after the placement of amerikosov there. In a word, hangers-on.

[Yuriy71]

The past is for that and the past is that it has passed!)))

[Nikolaevich I]

It remains at the end of the article to give an interview with the Romanian pensioner: "But under Ceausescu, I had a length ...."!

[bpk572]

For what purpose did the author posted a photo of a 100-mm AK-100 gun mount from the experimental battery of the Rzhev test site?

[alexbyrcev]

Nonsense, M-46 weighed 7,7t, A412-6,3t, and where the difference in weight is 2,5 tons. By the way, the M-46 is active-reactive hitting 38 km.