Knife attack in Yekaterinburg killed three people

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Three people died as a result of an attack by a man with a knife in Yekaterinburg, the attacker was detained. The incident took place in the afternoon on May 17.

According to reports, the attack took place in a park near the railway station. The reasons for the attack are currently unknown, it is reported that the man was intoxicated. The death toll also varies. According to one version, they were drinking companions of the attacker, according to the other - random passers-by who walked towards him.

The attacker was detained by police officers together with a military patrol from the EW Brigade of the Central Military District. At the same time, at the time of his arrest, he tried to attack law enforcement officers, to suppress this, fire was opened on him from a service weapons... As a result, the attacker received a gunshot wound. Initially, it was reported that the man was killed during the arrest, but the Main Directorate of the Ministry of Internal Affairs for the Sverdlovsk Region denied this information.

Currently, police officers are working at the scene, the square where everything happened is cordoned off. The attacker himself was taken to a medical facility to provide medical assistance after being wounded. The Yekaterinburg Online portal is broadcasting live from the scene.

The Investigative Committee has not yet commented on the incident, only confirmed that the conflict occurred on the basis of drinking alcoholic beverages.
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    1. -14
      17 May 2021 11: 47
      obviously the vodka is not fresh
      1. +7
        17 May 2021 12: 21
        Yes, there was a get-together. The scientific dispute, as always, smoothly turned into a battle on homemade swords, and the guards who approached took the winner. Classic.
        1. +3
          17 May 2021 14: 39
          D, Artagnan has laid down the glorious trinity. Dumas was wrong ..
        2. +4
          17 May 2021 16: 34
          Quote: Yuri V.A
          The scientific dispute, as always, smoothly turned into a battle on homemade swords, and the guards who approached took the winner. Classic.

          ... one passage from the blessed Augustine about which we did not agree
          ©
    2. +42
      17 May 2021 11: 47
      We need to toughen up the turnover of knives.
      1. +1
        17 May 2021 11: 51
        It turns out like this.
        1. +13
          17 May 2021 12: 38
          Quote: Roman070280
          We need to toughen up the turnover of knives.

          It is necessary to toughen the turnover of people. wink
          Some troubles from them. : laughing

          We started from a distance ...

          Everyone should have their hands in handcuffs.
          Free only at work, with an urgent need to use these same hands.

          They all have gags in their mouths. Remove only with the earplugs of the interlocutors stuck in.
      2. +36
        17 May 2021 11: 57
        I would have banned public gardens and train stations, there is only debauchery and stabbing.
        1. +27
          17 May 2021 12: 01
          Quote: Wilderness
          I would have banned public gardens and train stations, there is only debauchery and stabbing.

          And kitchens for one thing .... everyday life is thriving in kitchens .. Again, knives are mostly stored there ..
          1. +15
            17 May 2021 12: 05
            No more than one knife per family.
            1. +1
              17 May 2021 12: 08
              Quote: Pereira
              No more than one knife per family.

              You can introduce a bureaucratic position - it will issue it on application ... I don't know how it is now, otherwise there was something similar about the firearm in the ideas from above - it is stored in the cop, but you have to write why where and how much ..
              1. +10
                17 May 2021 12: 10
                When the Japanese captured Okinawa, one knife was left in the village. He was chained in the main square. When a peyzanin had to cut something off (chop a sausage), he came there.
                Cheap and cheerful. Note to the deputies.
                1. +2
                  17 May 2021 12: 11
                  Quote: Pereira
                  When the Japanese captured Okinawa, one knife was left in the village. He was chained in the main square. When a peyzanin had to cut something off (chop a sausage), he came there.

                  Well, there is historical practice - you can refer ..
                  1. +15
                    17 May 2021 12: 13
                    And you can also chain a gun. If you want to hunt a bear, bring it, take a gun and hunt.
                    1. +9
                      17 May 2021 12: 16
                      Quote: Pereira
                      And you can also chain a gun. If you want to hunt a bear, bring it, take a gun and hunt.

                      But this is a thought .. fresh, original on the cutting edge ..
                2. +7
                  17 May 2021 12: 44
                  Quote: Pereira
                  When the Japanese captured Okinawa, one knife was left in the village. He was chained in the main square. When a peyzanin had to cut something off (chop a sausage), he came there.
                  Cheap and cheerful. Note to the deputies.

                  No, it won't work with us. The same deputies will trample the sausage without a queue. In addition, with their salaries they have this sausage - heaps !!! The poor peasant will die of hunger while he is standing in line to share a piece of brawn with the household ...
                  1. 0
                    17 May 2021 14: 12
                    The peasant will wriggle out. The brawn can be cut with a dough cutter.
                    1. +2
                      18 May 2021 12: 19
                      You know how many drinking buddies you can kill with such a mold.
                3. 0
                  17 May 2021 19: 43
                  Quote: Pereira
                  When the Japanese captured Okinawa, one knife was left in the village. He was chained in the main square. When a peyzanin had to cut something off (chop a sausage), he came there.
                  Cheap and cheerful. Note to the deputies.
                  Knives were banned ...
                  And sickles ... for agricultural work - The people of Japan got the hang of the sickle Kama "bad deeds" to do ...
                  kama sickle japan
                  am
          2. +1
            17 May 2021 12: 36
            Don't forget about forks, about forks! This is also a stabbing weapon.
            1. +6
              17 May 2021 12: 38
              Quote: prior
              Don't forget about forks, about forks! This is also a stabbing weapon.

              A person can be killed with anything suitable and even sometimes about anything ...
            2. +2
              17 May 2021 12: 43
              Quote: prior
              don't forget about the forks!

              Then put a limit on "Ilya Muromets and Nightingale .." for children under 16, there is a prince with a fork .....
            3. +2
              17 May 2021 20: 58
              Don't forget about forks, about forks! T


              BUT...! So that's why they didn't give forks in the army ... recourse
        2. +9
          17 May 2021 14: 43
          And ban the weekend. From them all the evil on Monday.
        3. 0
          18 May 2021 12: 14
          You can also ban the policemen who walk past these drunks and do not care.
      3. +7
        17 May 2021 11: 58
        Quote: Roman070280
        We need to toughen up the turnover of knives.

        Well, this idea is not new! In the past, for example, hospitable hosts, organizers of dinner parties, dinners in decent society were obliged to have silver cutlery! They say that a silver knife (and even with a rounded tip) will not be able to encroach on an important guest due to hooligan motives in a drunken state! Yes
        1. +7
          17 May 2021 12: 04
          Chopped on forks, two blows - eight holes!
        2. +10
          17 May 2021 12: 14
          Quote: Nikolaevich I
          They say that a silver knife (and even with a rounded tip) will not be able to encroach on an important guest because of hooligan motives in a drunken state!

          Therefore, Nikolaich, important guests scrambled from the guests, pitted with forks, taking with them serving trophies sticking out in the back laughing
          1. +2
            17 May 2021 12: 37
            Quote: Nyrobsky
            important guests scrambled out of the guests, pitted with forks, taking with them serving trophies sticking out in the back

            "All sorts of things go around here, then the forks disappear ..." by the way, a quote from Maria-Sophia-Frideric-Dagmar (Romanov)
      4. +17
        17 May 2021 12: 06
        Quote: Roman070280
        We need to toughen up the turnover of knives.

        ... screwdrivers, hammers, axes, cast iron pans ... laughing
        1. +6
          17 May 2021 12: 15
          Beaks with which the brains of the peasants peck.
        2. +6
          17 May 2021 12: 38
          Especially the pans! In the hands of the weaker sex, this is just a killer weapon that has no analogues. what
        3. +1
          17 May 2021 19: 14
          Quote: Piramidon
          Quote: Roman070280
          We need to toughen up the turnover of knives.

          ... cast iron pans ... laughing
          Late we realized ...
          Try to find a real one in the store. cast iron skillet - for a long time only made of thin Teflon-coated iron ... or luminous.
          Real cast iron only in old stocks from grandmothers or thrifty elderly mother-in-law.
          sad
          1. 0
            17 May 2021 20: 44
            Quote: cat Rusich
            Late we realized ...
            Try to find a real cast iron skillet in the store - for a long time only made of thin Teflon-coated iron ... or luminium.
            Real cast iron is only in old stocks from grandmothers or a thrifty elderly mother-in-law.

            By ordering on the Internet, they will even send you a titanium one, if there would be money.
          2. 0
            18 May 2021 08: 17
            Quote: cat Rusich
            Try to find a real cast-iron skillet in the store - for a long time only made of thin Teflon-coated iron ... or luminium. Real cast iron is only in old stocks from grandmothers or a thrifty elderly mother-in-law.

            Cast iron can be found on sale. But as for the REAL cast iron, then you are right. The cast iron that I came across was some kind of coarse-grained and in appearance very different from the cast iron from which two pans are made, which I inherited from my mother, and to her from my grandmother. Nothing burns on them, and they are eternal, unlike Teflon ones, which need to be changed every 2 years.
      5. +10
        17 May 2021 12: 21
        Quote: Roman070280
        It is necessary to tighten the turn of knives

        A person kills, so it is logical to toughen the turnover of people.
      6. +3
        17 May 2021 12: 24
        With some knives? It is logical to start toughening up with vodka and moonshine wassat
        1. +6
          17 May 2021 12: 28
          It was already, the people began to poison themselves with a fake substitute.
          1. +1
            17 May 2021 13: 19
            On the other hand, the percentage of abnormalities among children born in 1986-1988 has sharply decreased. Normal people did not drink a surrogate.
            1. 0
              17 May 2021 20: 47
              Quote: Sergej1972
              On the other hand, the percentage of abnormalities among children born in 1986-1988 has sharply decreased. Normal people did not drink a surrogate.

              Nicholas II also introduced a dry law - the Russian Empire collapsed. Gorbachev introduced dry law - the Soviet empire collapsed. So you need to be careful.
        2. +7
          17 May 2021 12: 50
          Quote: vadimtt
          It is logical to start toughening up with vodka and moonshine

          Are you encroaching on holy things? laughing
      7. +11
        17 May 2021 12: 28
        Curiously, when Yevsyukov shot a bunch of people, for some reason the guarantor did not immediately respond with proposals to immediately tighten the issuance of weapons to the police, such as to issue only after 25, only Makarov with three cartridges, only after daily help from a psychologist and other nonsense ...
        1. 0
          17 May 2021 20: 12
          Quote: paul3390
          only Makarov with three rounds

          No, you only need one to shoot yourself.))
      8. +3
        17 May 2021 12: 31
        A bit wrong. You just have to imagine they have a shotgun in their hands ... A booze with a 12-gauge multi-charge shotgun. To imagine its possible completion, special imagination is not required.
        1. +3
          17 May 2021 16: 36
          Quote: Pavel73
          A booze with a 12-gauge multi-shot shotgun.

          This is called hunting.
      9. +7
        17 May 2021 12: 31
        Quote: Roman070280
        We need to toughen up the turnover of knives.

        And alcohol. And to toughen people turnover too. And then they are born, they die. They completely got out of the hands.

        Blue is evil!
        1. +1
          18 May 2021 01: 58
          Quote: Flashpoint
          And alcohol.

          The 1917 revolution and perestroika happened after the fight against the green serpent. So no one (the government) will restrict alcohol.
          1. +1
            18 May 2021 04: 01
            Quote: gsev
            Quote: Flashpoint
            And alcohol.

            The 1917 revolution and perestroika happened after the fight against the green serpent. So no one (the government) will restrict alcohol.

            In the USSR, too, the green snake was attempted. The vineyards were chopped. The volumes of the bottles were shuffled.
            They only made it worse. So - no conclusions have been drawn since 1917.
            And now - times are somewhat different, the era of the global Internet and the media. The alcohol is not that strong, but
            and you shouldn't write it off.
      10. CYM
        +9
        17 May 2021 12: 37
        And forks ... And if we seriously need to urgently restore the state system of prevention and compulsory treatment of drug addiction, alcoholism and mental disorders. Of course, their causes must be eliminated, but in the conditions of wild capitalism, the propaganda of egocentrism and consumerism, this is unrealistic.
        1. 0
          17 May 2021 20: 15
          Quote: CYM
          And if seriously, we urgently need to restore the state system of prevention and compulsory treatment of drug addiction, alcoholism and mental disorders. Of course, their causes must be eliminated, but in the conditions of wild capitalism, the propaganda of egocentrism and consumerism, this is unrealistic.

          What kind of money do you need ?! But what about Courchevel and the like? It's easier to ban knives.))
      11. +2
        17 May 2021 12: 39
        Quote: Roman070280
        We need to toughen up the turnover of knives.

        That's right! And also the turnover of dump trucks - he alone can transfer a bunch of people ...
      12. 0
        17 May 2021 12: 45
        Quote: Roman070280
        We need to toughen up the turnover of knives.

        And also forks and skewers with nails.
        Spring is such a time. The psychos have another seasonal exacerbation. And nothing can be done about it. With the spring warming, especially as it gets dark, drunken screams and howling are heard from every gateway. People in degrees begin to go crazy in the fresh air.
        It's trite, but booze is a prerequisite for an emergency. This requires increased police work.
        Yes, at every corner, in every gateway and square, there should be intensified patrolling for the purpose of prophylaxis, prevention, etc. As for the holidays, strengthening is done. There is no other way. You can't dress every hidden psychopath in a straitjacket in advance.
        1. -5
          17 May 2021 20: 17
          Quote: barclay
          And also forks and skewers with nails.

          And also hammers, axes, pry bars, wrenches, adjustable wrenches, gas wrenches, clamps ..., etc. etc.))
      13. +3
        17 May 2021 12: 47
        Quote: Roman070280
        We need to toughen up the turnover of knives.

        And introduce a mandatory interview with Rosgvardia employees when buying them ...
        1. +5
          17 May 2021 13: 03
          Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
          And introduce a mandatory interview with Rosgvardia employees when buying them ...

          Hopefully paid?
          1. +10
            17 May 2021 13: 08
            Quote: mat-vey
            Hopefully paid?

            Sure! Passed the interview - pay 500 rubles and get a sticker "RR" ("Approved by the Russian Guard"), which must be stuck on the knife. A kitchen knife without a sticker - a fine of 5 rubles. Rosgvardia is allowed to enter the apartment for the purpose of checking the stickers without a warrant. Was the sticker washed off under the tap? Fill out the form on public services, restoration - 000 rubles. in 250 days. Until you receive a new sticker - hand over the Rosgvardia kitchen knife for storage, the cost of storage is 10 rubles / day. Delivery for storage in a period exceeding a day from the moment of loss of the sticker - a fine of 50 rubles.
            Etc. etc....
            1. +11
              17 May 2021 13: 10
              Eeeee hmm .. you are not by any chance working in state structures? winked Painfully professionally laid out wink
              1. +4
                17 May 2021 13: 12
                Quote: mat-vey
                Eeeee hmm .. you are not by any chance working in state structures?

                I am on the other side of the barricades, a findirector at production :))))) I know by heart the "hunches" of our powers that be :)
                1. +3
                  17 May 2021 13: 15
                  Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                  I am on the other side of the barricades, a findirector at production :)))))

                  AAA well then, I understand ... sorry for the bad suspicions negative
                  1. +1
                    17 May 2021 13: 19
                    Quote: mat-vey
                    .I apologize for the bad suspicions

                    Yes, no problem :))))) For ours, just let us ban something - such a feeder will not be allowed
                    1. +1
                      17 May 2021 13: 20
                      Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                      Yes, no problem :))))) For ours, just let us ban something - such a feeder will not be allowed

                      And you suggest ... negative
                      1. +4
                        17 May 2021 14: 10
                        Believe me, there are more than enough "literates" without my prompts ...
                        They will organize a new department for this business, and will introduce general positions ...
                        1. +1
                          17 May 2021 14: 24
                          Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                          They will organize a new department for this business, and will introduce general positions ...

                          Are you again? ...
                    2. +2
                      17 May 2021 19: 35
                      Cops fight crime ...
                      Why is the findirector on the other side of the barricades? laughing
              2. +3
                17 May 2021 13: 16
                Quote: mat-vey
                Painfully professionally laid out

                It seems that everything has been thought out for a long time. Just as written. I feel the bill will go into the Duma tomorrow, the day after tomorrow it will be approved in three readings at once.
                1. +6
                  17 May 2021 13: 20
                  Quote: NDR-791
                  the day after tomorrow will be approved in three readings at once.

                  Moreover, the day before yesterday ...
                2. -1
                  17 May 2021 13: 24
                  Quote: NDR-791
                  It seems that everything has been thought out for a long time. Just as written. I feel the bill will go into the Duma tomorrow, the day after tomorrow it will be approved in three readings at once.

                  If for the good of the electorate, then why not?
        2. 0
          17 May 2021 20: 19
          Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
          And introduce a mandatory interview with Rosgvardia employees when purchasing them.

          And then employees, what if ...))
      14. +1
        17 May 2021 13: 17
        We need to toughen up the turnover of knives.


        I wonder what Zolotov will say to this.
        1. 0
          17 May 2021 20: 21
          Quote: krops777
          I wonder what Zolotov will say to this.

          Why is that interesting? What is ordered, he will say ...
        2. 0
          18 May 2021 17: 03
          And more bricks.
      15. +4
        17 May 2021 13: 17
        You can kill with your bare hands. It is also necessary to tighten the turnover of bare hands.
        1. +7
          17 May 2021 13: 32
          Quote: Sergey Mikhailovich Karasev
          You can kill with your bare hands. It is also necessary to tighten the turnover of bare hands.

          Duc and it was already One has only to remember how karate was forbidden in the 80s! angry stop
      16. +2
        17 May 2021 13: 34
        Especially kitchen ones !!!
        From the age of eighteen, a certificate from a psychiatrist, and only one knife in one hand!
        To entrust the supervision of execution to the valiant "Rosguards" (you see, her boss will buy another mansion for himself) laughing
      17. +5
        17 May 2021 13: 35
        how it is in the army ... I remember in the army, on the parade ground, a weekly list of accidents in the corps was read out to us. And orders to prevent. For example, one soldier fell from the roof of a barracks about four floors. Order: close and seal the roof passages in all parts! Or a warrant officer and a contract soldier went to the fuel and lubricants warehouse to find out how much fuel was left in a certain tank and whether there was any at all. The ensign in a simple way opened the lid, and looked with his head inside the tank - he inhaled steam of solarium there, lost consciousness and fell inside. The soldier wanted to find out how the "mikhalych" was there, alive and also bent over the cistern to look and also lost consciousness and fell inside! - The order, the top of the army bureaucracy and the ability to cover your back with a piece of paper - go to the fuel and lubricants warehouses at least three times! wassat
        1. 0
          17 May 2021 16: 42
          Quote: nespich
          how it is in the army ... I remember in the army, on the parade ground, a weekly list of accidents in the corps was read out to us. And orders to prevent.

          And we were told at the military department that there were no worse days than after reading out such lists. For the personnel immediately tried to repeat the part of the sounded: "And so it was possible ?!"
      18. +2
        17 May 2021 14: 53
        We need to toughen up the turnover of knives.

        Not to toughen up, but to prohibit. And at the same time, prohibit the use of forks, corkscrews, kitchen hatchets, peelers, can openers and toothpicks (they are also sharp). Skates (including roller skates) are also prohibited. So are ski poles.
        Spoons, pushers, rolling pins, etc. should be produced only of the established sample and exclusively from plastic. Obligate to register, license and allow their use by citizens from the age of 25.
        Before starting to use, conduct theoretical lessons and trainings. Type: "A dining spoon, civilian, consists of a hold and a scoop. It is used by holding in the right hand with a simultaneous rotational movement towards oneself with the subsequent redirection of the food composition on the spoon into the mouth opening. Before using it, it is recommended to exercise on a model of food made of plasticine or papier mache".
        1. 0
          17 May 2021 20: 26
          You forgot about ice axes !!!
      19. Alf
        0
        17 May 2021 20: 20
        Quote: Roman070280
        We need to toughen up the turnover of knives.

        Not "toughen up", but "forbid". Allow the possession of knives only by the military and the National Guard. And for home use, to produce special knives without cutting edges. Urgently issue a contract for the development of these Rusnano knives in the amount of 100500 billion wooden ones. laughing
      20. 0
        18 May 2021 09: 47
        And vodka by itself
    3. +5
      17 May 2021 11: 50
      The attacker himself was taken to a medical facility to provide medical assistance after being wounded.

      and then he will be safely cured. The trial will turn out to be humane, a couple of years of investigation will be counted as a term and having received a "top ten" a good fellow on parole will be released in 5 years. The killer is armed and resists - the shooting should be done to kill, and not render harmless the criminal
      1. +3
        17 May 2021 11: 59
        Quote: Ka-52
        The killer is armed and resists - the shooting must be carried out to kill, and not to neutralize the criminal

        And then another Evsyukov will spread a knife to everyone and say, "They attacked me, I will defend myself ..."
      2. +1
        17 May 2021 13: 18
        Quote: Ka-52
        The trial will turn out to be humane, a couple of years of investigation will be counted as a term and having received a "top ten" a good fellow on parole will be released in 5 years.

        Something you weighed a lot to him. I know of one such person - he walks around and shows off. He stabbed four of them, gave them four years. what
    4. +10
      17 May 2021 11: 50
      Blueprint is evil.
    5. +4
      17 May 2021 11: 52
      A knife is such a thing that you can make it out of anything. Toughen up, do not toughen up, but you can kill with a knife even with a very blunt one. Yes, a screwdriver or a pen too.
      This is the question of the inefficiency of the work of the precinct on the ground. We got used to receiving a salary for 20 years and writing certificates on rounds in the office!
      1. 0
        17 May 2021 13: 37
        comrade, what other precinct is there station square! Nobody lives there - what's the local police officer? how should he work there?
      2. -1
        17 May 2021 20: 59
        Quote: mojohed2012
        This is the question of the inefficiency of the work of the precinct on the ground. We got used to receiving a salary for 20 years and writing certificates on rounds in the office!

        And what is the jamb of the district police officer here?
        1. 0
          18 May 2021 09: 31
          Because nothing has changed in the police-police, only the first 2 letters. As before, they drew "separate assignments" of investigators and interrogators in their offices, when it was necessary to make a round of door-to-door rounds with their feet - they put a certificate into the case that they were bypassed, but this did not give any results. Or an undercover plan of work with a certificate of control of the area's undercover network for detecting crimes - they also sit in the office for years and draw that everything is underway. And the inspectors out of their own safety - for show, they write, they say, all the documents are available, and then at the table - to help themselves! Nothing has changed since the early 2000s. Only their salary has grown. Not all, but many work this way.
          In reality, only those who are "motivated" by connections, top officials or financially are digging.
          All have long resigned themselves to the fact that the police are taking care of themselves, and this is how they react to high-profile cases and no more ...
          And if there are no rounds at least once a week, there is no real work to collect explanations and testimonies on the ground, to check the place of residence of those who have been imprisoned, and so on - this is where everything comes from.
    6. +3
      17 May 2021 11: 52
      It is high time to put everyone on the register in the durk and check monthly if the cuckoo has flown. There is no other way to achieve security, yes.
      1. +3
        17 May 2021 11: 59
        It's high time to put everyone on the register
        Here the number of idiots per square meter exceeds all permissible norms at times, the whole country will then become a big fool.
        1. +3
          17 May 2021 12: 06
          Most likely so. For how safe that will become! Indeed, when registered in a durka, neither the right to a car will be given either to a weapon or to a normal job.
        2. +3
          17 May 2021 14: 23
          And we are all held for fools anyway, haven't they noticed? It remains only to formalize it with a certificate. laughing wassat
      2. +1
        17 May 2021 12: 05
        Quote: Smoked
        It is high time to put everyone on the register in the durk and check monthly if the cuckoo has flown. There is no other way to achieve security, yes.

        Durki together with other hospitals have been successfully optimized.
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            1. 0
              17 May 2021 12: 13
              Duc medical examination will not be carried out by the National Guard, but by a medical worker.
              1. +2
                17 May 2021 12: 15
                Quote: Smoked
                Duc medical examination will not be carried out by the National Guard, but by a medical worker.

                Oh yes, why spend there .. in Ross, the guards are recruiting trusted people - you can entrust them .. and pay the superiors the savings on doctors.
      3. +3
        17 May 2021 12: 23
        Quote: Smoked
        It's high time to put everyone on the register and check every month if the cuckoo has flown off.
        Exactly!
        Only here is one problem ... where to get 300 thousand psychiatrists ..?
        1. 0
          17 May 2021 13: 17
          In the National Guard. Define their ailment into a feat!
        2. 0
          17 May 2021 13: 20
          Quote: Doccor18
          where to get 300 thousand psychiatrists ..?

          Yes, you can buy a psychologist's diploma in every transition. A psychiatrist is a little more expensive, but in the same place.
          1. 0
            17 May 2021 14: 48
            Quote: NDR-791
            Quote: Doccor18
            where to get 300 thousand psychiatrists ..?

            Yes, you can buy a psychologist's diploma in every transition. A psychiatrist is a little more expensive, but in the same place.

            It can and can be bought, but working with such a "masterpiece" will not work for a long time. With the existing system of continuous education and advanced training, a fake will be revealed very quickly ...
    7. +1
      17 May 2021 11: 53
      Think about it! It is necessary to introduce a short-barreled as in the USA, so that they can defend themselves or not!
      Or they will crush the owners of weapons, disarming the population.
      Tighten the nuts, but not there.
      1. 0
        17 May 2021 12: 04
        Quote: mojohed2012
        Think about it! It is necessary to introduce a short-barreled as in the USA, so that they can defend themselves or not!
        Or they will crush the owners of weapons, disarming the population.
        Tighten the nuts, but not there.

        Just then a guy was walking down the street with a gun ...
        Against the background of the fact that none of the oncoming- no one!!!! did not call the police - they hope that if they had a cop - they will detain him - it is pointless ...
        They will be just as purple as they are now - OUT depending on whether they have a COP ...
        1. +3
          17 May 2021 12: 14
          Quote: your1970
          They will be just as purple as now - regardless of whether they have a KSa ...

          So there is a classic - "If you are killed, we will leave"
      2. +5
        17 May 2021 12: 13
        Quote: mojohed2012
        Think about it! It is necessary to introduce a short-barreled as in the USA, so that they can defend themselves or not!

        I knew one character, worked together at the same time. He once got a PM injury, officially. Dragged him in a shoulder holster for two months. Then I see: no holster. I ask what is it? Answers: tired, heavy and gets in the way. The person mostly moved by car.
        So I think, how many of those hungry for a short-barrel will carry it with them on an ongoing basis for years? But you also need to travel regularly to practice shooting.
        It seems to me that even if pistols are allowed, they will mostly lie at home. Accordingly, for self-defense against aggressors with knives in the fresh air are completely useless.
        1. CYM
          +1
          17 May 2021 12: 52
          The situation is similar in Moldova, where the Constitutional Court has been allowed since 1998. http://www.gunza.ru/faq/weamoldova.html
        2. 0
          17 May 2021 14: 06
          Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
          even if pistols are allowed, they will mostly lie at home.

          Well ... burglars can get it ... But even without burglars (!) ... how often do attacks happen? 1. A person passes by a tree ... jump out from behind a tree and beat a pipe (hammer) on the head from behind ...; 2. A person enters the entrance ... they beat him on the head from behind (with a pipe, a hammer ... underline the necessary! Not in the list, add!) ... Pistols will be added to the trophies, acromy of wallets, wallets ...
          1. +1
            18 May 2021 02: 17
            Quote: Nikolaevich I
            .Pistols will be added to the trophies, acre of wallets, wallets ...

            The registered weapon has been shot and its characteristics are entered in the card index. The Moldovan experience shows that crime drops sharply when perpetrators realize that the victim can be armed and can kill the perpetrator. In addition, for example, in recent years, there have been no terrorist attacks in the PRC. In Russia, about 100 people die from terrorist attacks a year. Apparently it is not possible to reduce the level of violent mortality to less than 5 people per year in Russia. Several orders of magnitude more die from alcohol, drugs, incurable sexually transmitted diseases. It is economically more profitable for the state to allow the death of hundreds of people from psychos and terrorists per year than to maintain a half-million army of armed guards in schools and kindergartens.
            1. 0
              18 May 2021 02: 46
              Quote: gsev
              there have been no terrorist attacks in the PRC in recent years

              Is firearms (pistols) freely available in the PRC?
              For example, in China, where the rate of premeditated homicide is consistently kept at a very low level, only 0,53 people per 100 inhabitants, this figure is largely ensured by extremely tough anti-weapon legislation and harsh law enforcement practice. In the PRC, it is illegal for any civilian to manufacture, own, transport and trade weapons. The death penalty is highly likely to be expected for anyone who seriously violates the law, and long prison sentences are common practice for minor offenses.
              The experience of China and other countries (for example, Germany) shows that reducing crime primarily depends not on the presence or absence of firearms in the public domain, but on the effectiveness of various government agencies (primarily law enforcement agencies) and on the effectiveness of their work! It is also necessary to pay attention to such "aspects" inside Russia! And more ... the number of murders per 100.000 population in the "super.armed" USA in 2018. amounted to 4,96 ... In Russia, in 2019. this number is 4,9!
    8. -1
      17 May 2021 11: 57
      We must ban knives, and put a couple of Russian guardsmen with machine guns in each park!
      1. +4
        17 May 2021 12: 08
        EW units still need to be banned, they irradiate individuals with a weak mind during exercises, do not go to a fortune-teller. Then patrols walk the streets, looking for zombies in squares.
      2. +5
        17 May 2021 12: 36
        We have about 140 million people in our country. The number of policemen of all stripes is somewhere around 2.3 million. Total - somewhere around a policeman for every 60 digs. What we have? And the fact that a guard should be in every front high-rise building !! Judging by their number. Do you even see a lot of them on the streets? Well - besides the dispersal of rallies? Yes shish there, I already forgot when the last time I saw the patrol in my area.

        The question is - what is all this horrible horde of healthy, well-fed men doing with a healthy salary and a 45-year-old pension for an incredibly difficult service ??
        1. +3
          17 May 2021 13: 04
          Quote: paul3390
          The number of police officers of all stripes is somewhere 2.3 Million

          "Cut the sturgeon, otherwise there won't be any living in the village !!!" (C) anecdote
          You cut the number, yeah .. belay lol fool .. And then in this figure lebertasts usually include the army, and customs, and border guards
          1. +3
            17 May 2021 13: 15
            For the alternatively gifted - this is the number of all the people of the sovereign, and not just the police specifically .. In addition to it, we have a lot of siloviki inside the country.
          2. -1
            17 May 2021 13: 23
            Quote: your1970
            "Cut the sturgeon, otherwise there won't be any living in the village !!!" (C) anecdote

            If you want - cut the sturgeon, but if you want:
            Approximately every 57th resident of Russia works in power structures. This is stated in the research "Project", dedicated to the security forces. In general, about 2,6 million Russians are employed in law enforcement agencies.

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            2. 0
              17 May 2021 23: 43
              Most of the data is incorrect. You would at least double-check the information, and not post the first thing that comes to hand.
        2. -1
          17 May 2021 21: 04
          Quote: paul3390
          The question is - what is all this horrible horde of healthy, well-fed men doing with a healthy salary and a 45-year-old pension for an incredibly difficult service ??

          We are protecting the capitalist gentlemen from you, obviously.
      3. 0
        17 May 2021 17: 06
        Quote: Kot_Kuzya
        We must ban knives, and put a couple of Russian guardsmen with machine guns in each park!

        Zhvanetsky immediately remembered ...
        Place turnstiles at the end of each street. Of course, you can walk like that, and to your health, but this is recklessness - wherever I want, I go there. Place turnstiles at the end of each street. Just because. Let them let them through for now. Don't be scared. They only let know with a bang. And the attendants in bandages. Let them stand and let them pass. Their very presence, the very look ... You walk at them - your face burns, after them - your back burns. And they don't ask anything ... yet. This is the whole effect. And it already disciplines. You can block it at any time. Special teams have access to any house and so on.

        Along the contour of the squares - along the checkpoint. A man walks along the fence, hands - on the fence. Well, let's say, three or four rounds of the fence - and into the entrance, where no one detains him, although the attendants, of course, are standing. A special paint on the fence, well, there, prints and so on. Yes, my God, no one will take off the fence - there is nothing to be afraid of. But in the event of an emergency ... prints on the fence, and where are you going? In the meantime, let them pass without documents. Although you must have it with you, and this is mandatory in case of checking, reconciliation, emergency. That is, when you go to the person on duty, you already want to present something. If you pass without presentation, you will only suffer. Over time, no one will be ashamed of checks. Shame will go untested. Moreover, to appear unexpectedly and anywhere, like now. Or shout: "My home is my fortress" - from inner licentiousness.
        © Turnstiles
    9. +5
      17 May 2021 11: 57
      It is necessary to revise the law enforcement practice in relation to self-defense and legalize the CCW
    10. +1
      17 May 2021 12: 03
      "We are not like that, life is like that ...." (c) "Boomer"
      So they fly off the coils ... here and there.
      And they suffer ... whoever is caught by the arm, and the whole society "winds up" further ...
      "There is no stability" (c) "Moscow does not believe in tears"
      1. +1
        17 May 2021 13: 06
        Quote: usr01
        We are not such, Life is so...."

        Such. Blue. Yes "The guy is good, the vodka is bad ..."(with)
    11. +4
      17 May 2021 12: 09
      notice all such problems from men. I suggest that all men be toughened, released only during the period of permitted hunting for duck and fluffy game, annually a crazy certificate is not cheaper than 30 thousand and all those who are longer than 12 cm or shorter than 5 cm should be banned altogether. Tsar's decree, without asking anyone !!! and these, ppm in blood !!! too !!! prohibit and do not let go !!!
    12. +2
      17 May 2021 12: 10
      How does this news relate to the military-political topics of the site?
    13. +8
      17 May 2021 12: 11
      I read two dozen comments and suggestions on the necessary measures. I realized that no one cares just to write a few words. In fact, no measures can prevent such incidents. Not the ban on knives, the closure of parks, kitchens and the distribution of pistols. District police officers with Rosgvardia will also not save, but if there was no such indifference to what is happening, then it would be possible to save someone. How many people passed by the shooter in Kazan, who was going to school with a gun? And how many people passed by these drunks, until their roof was blown off and the next passers-by fell under the distribution ..
      1. +1
        17 May 2021 12: 21
        Quote: Stepan S
        but if there was no such indifference to what is happening, then it would be possible to save someone.

        Can you tell me what your reason for this same indifference was? I remember earlier, when the society of hunter-fishermen was with Dracov's permissive measures, it was easier and there was no such shooting in schools? What is the phenomenon?
        1. +2
          17 May 2021 12: 30
          People were kinder before, and alcoholics are not so aggressive. And shooting in schools with hunter-fishermen has a connection, albeit weak. Previously, it would not have been possible to buy a gun just like that, but now please. But why do they go to school to shoot, and not to the mayor's office, or the police department? After all, in the mayor's office there is a guard at the entrance, not a grandmother, I'm not talking about the police, you can't go beyond the turnstile there. But at school, the kids are defenseless, what is it that pulls these bastards there ..
          1. +1
            17 May 2021 12: 33
            Quote: Stepan S
            Previously, it would not have been possible to buy a gun just like that, but now please.

            All relatives had "official" guns ...
            Quote: Stepan S
            People were kinder before, and alcoholics are not so aggressive.

            I wonder why recourse
            Quote: Stepan S
            That's just why they shoot go to school

            That's just why they even go to shoot ..
            1. +1
              17 May 2021 12: 43
              That's just why they even go to shoot ..

              The pernicious influence of the West. Have seen enough.
              1. 0
                17 May 2021 12: 45
                Quote: Stepan S
                The pernicious influence of the West.

                Ooooo what .. well, all the troubles from him ..
                1. +2
                  17 May 2021 13: 19
                  Do you have your own answer to this question? Or do you think that Putin, as always, is to blame?
                  1. +2
                    17 May 2021 13: 23
                    Quote: Stepan S
                    Do you have your own answer to this question? Or do you think that Putin, as always, is to blame?

                    And he including ... That would seem America during the Great Depression, but how it seems to be ... Homo homini lupus is the basic rule and spirit of capitalism.
                    Further more "fear and fear" will be ..
        2. -1
          18 May 2021 17: 10
          Quote: mat-vey
          I remember earlier, when the society of hunters and fishermen was with Dracov's permitting measures, it was easier and there was no such shooting in schools?

          The father-in-law bought a single-barreled gun in the selmag for 16 rubles in the early 70s, without anything, at all ... They seized it from him already in the 90s ... he did not hunt with him ...
          I was small (70s), but I remember (I really wanted to !!) - we sold small things in sports goods. Without licenses and permits - sporting goods ...
          Where did you see the draconian measures, I do not know ...
          1. -1
            18 May 2021 17: 45
            Quote: your1970
            Where have you seen the draconian measures, I do not know

            Can you see the phrase "easier"?
            1. -1
              18 May 2021 19: 09
              Sorry, I didn't understand your idea ...
              You seem to be suggesting further simplify arms sales - than it was before? Yes?
              1. -1
                18 May 2021 19: 10
                Quote: your1970
                You seem to be proposing to simplify the sale of weapons even more than it was before? Yes?

                And what is your reading logic based on making such conclusions?
                1. -1
                  18 May 2021 19: 19
                  Quote: mat-vey
                  Quote: your1970
                  You seem to be proposing to simplify the sale of weapons even more than it was before? Yes?

                  And what is your reading logic based on making such conclusions?

                  On your post
                  Quote: mat-vey
                  And the phrase "easier" can you see it?

                  So simplify or complicate?
                  Do you just remember that "everything was easier before"?
                  Please clarify your idea, otherwise I, for example, cannot understand you for the third time ...
                  1. -1
                    18 May 2021 19: 25
                    Quote: your1970
                    Do you just remember that "everything was easier before"?

                    Where was it about “everything?” You yourself think of something, and then complain that you cannot understand?
                    What do you think - if earlier it was easier to get hunting weapons, then it doesn't follow that it is more difficult now? Or do you get that now you need to simplify? If to simplify, then about how it was before or how it is now?
                    1. 0
                      18 May 2021 20: 53
                      That is, you cannot formulate your thought in an understandable (even to me !!) form ...
                      1. -1
                        19 May 2021 03: 38
                        Quote: your1970
                        understandable (even to me !!)

                        And why is "me" not with a capital letter? It's even YOU !!!
                      2. 0
                        19 May 2021 06: 11
                        And you are funny ... Oh - YOU ..
      2. +3
        17 May 2021 12: 22
        Noteworthy is the headline "Knife attack in Yekaterinburg led to the death of three people." You wait straight - TERRORIST !!! ANOTHER AVENGER !!! You will definitely drop by and read it.
        And then - a drunken stabbing .... But as served - all in a stream, "for sure - the empire of evil, lawlessness and thugs."
      3. 0
        17 May 2021 12: 53
        distribution of pistols

        In what comments and from whom did you see it.
        1. 0
          17 May 2021 13: 22
          Why did I have to see it from someone? I wrote it myself, on my own.
          1. 0
            17 May 2021 13: 38
            What for?

            Why replace the demand for a revision of the attitude towards self-defense and the right to arms with your own fabrications?
      4. 0
        17 May 2021 20: 29
        Quote: Stepan S
        I read two dozen comments and suggestions on the necessary measures. I realized that no one cares just to write a few words.

        You have misunderstood everything. The people simply make fun of the situation of tightening and prohibitions and weapons, for most individuals fully understand that prohibitions will not solve the problem. The "prohibitors" again "fight" not with the cause, but with the effect.
        1. 0
          18 May 2021 17: 54
          Quote: Tank Hard
          "Prohibitors" again "fight" not with the cause, but with the effect.

          Yes, they do not "fight" anything - they represent a struggle.
    14. +2
      17 May 2021 12: 19
      Let's remember "Mulya, don't make me nervous". One whistle of the janitor
      and as if out of the ground, a policeman in a white jacket grows up.
      Of course, there are spontaneously committed crimes (fights).
      But the criminal is a man, and purely subconsciously strive and
      commit a dirty deed and go unpunished. therefore
      staying in the park, seeing the patrol twice, will most likely refuse
      from intention. And what places to patrol, in the police of everyone
      the cities are well known. "Demonstration of the flag" kind of. Another thing,
      how it's done. I had to see how the police guys were having fun
      and enthusiastically communicate with girls, you see classmates met.
      Serving in pure form.
      1. +1
        17 May 2021 12: 34
        There are no pure patrols now, as you are used to seeing in the movies, especially on foot. This is rather an exception in some areas. They can walk at the station, or in a city where there is a part of the National Guard nearby and conscripts are taken out on patrol in the evenings. For half a year of quarantine, when it seemed like it was impossible to go out on the street unnecessarily, I did not see a single police squad in my area.
        1. +2
          17 May 2021 13: 20
          In Gorbachev's time, the London correspondent of the newspaper
          "Trud" with many years of experience as a Moscow car enthusiast,
          having mastered driving in Longdon in this way, I suddenly wondered-
          there is no police anywhere (AIM in his understanding). And now, having achieved
          interview with a police officer, he began to find out this
          question. The official could not understand in any way what they wanted from him.
          Finally, when I could hardly understand, he raised his eyebrows in surprise.
          What for?!. There are Rules, there are signs, there are markings. Of this
          quite enough. Everything is just - observe. Understand
          themselves, in short. Well, if we haven't figured it out, we'll come ....
          That's the way it is for you. There is an Admin Code, there is a Criminal Code
          code, there is Responsibility - figure it out for yourself.
          Well, if you were stabbed to death, so be it, we'll come and figure it out.
        2. +1
          17 May 2021 13: 27
          Work from the fact, so to speak.
          A man sits in the garage. Another comes -
          Listen, the Lada won't start!
          Right now, let's go and figure it out.
          So here too - the duty officer, the district militia officer, is sitting.
          A man comes - Listen there Petka
          Roly on the head with an ax.
          Right now, let's go and figure it out.
      2. +4
        17 May 2021 12: 37
        You are a criminal alive - have you ever seen, communicated? wink Selfish and violent clients - they are oligophrenic in a significant number at different stages, very many cannot read and write, they have to read the protocols aloud. For them, the "dirty thing" in your understanding is the usual behavior, they suddenly wanted to. Everything happens for them all of a sudden, regardless of place, time, etc. So it is not necessary to ascribe your vision of the surrounding reality to them - their life is completely different. Just like those who wanted to eat, they stole the bread. And the police have been reduced and continue to be reduced at an accelerated pace, in order to save the budget.
        So - to blame for the deed, of course, extremely dangerous knives. Forbid, definitely.
        1. +2
          17 May 2021 12: 57
          In Russia today 914 people are on the staff of the Ministry of Internal Affairs. 500 million. During the Soviet era, the Ministry of Internal Affairs employed 147 people. by 623 million almost 000% fewer employees by almost twice the population and coped well, sometimes better .. how is it still abnormal - don't you think? even if you cut them by 250, it's still abnormal.
    15. +4
      17 May 2021 12: 41
      Better yet, prohibit boys, youths and men, they are such fighters.
      However, modern girls are no less cruel.
      In short, ban everyone! And that's it!
    16. +2
      17 May 2021 12: 46
      Quote: El Chuvachino
      How does this news relate to the military-political topics of the site?

      The military patrol took part in the arrest!
    17. +1
      17 May 2021 13: 01
      Seriously, the country needs a healthy ideology, work with young people, there should be a shared goal in society. the police must have the support of the population and the population must have the support of the authorities in the merciless fight against crime and the prevention of crime by sick people. adequate people should have weapons. how to do it? probably we should not reinvent the wheel, copy solutions from other countries and our history. just do not need to talk about what is in the baltics, israel, switzerland, etc. people are better and therefore they can and we cannot. Well, one must understand that such cases can only be reduced, completely impossible to prevent. and another question about the shooters, did they have a planned brainwashing?
    18. +1
      17 May 2021 13: 22
      Spring, May, aggravation ..
      1. +2
        17 May 2021 13: 29
        Quote: Angry 55
        Spring, May, aggravation ..

        During a period of massive cuts in production, the surge in crime does not depend on the season.
    19. +1
      17 May 2021 17: 46
      Why is everyone humorous? ... This is an obvious continuation of the theme of the terrorist attack in Kazan. A special operation called "Reasons for strengthening control over the population." You can see at least that laws and other regulations on tightening control measures are riveted under the public opinion formed on emotions. Video cameras, policemen, bans, identification of people by technical means, social ranking of children and adolescents. I'm not one of the criminals, but even I feel uncomfortable with this pressure on society. Just don't get fired up right away - try to study the local press of other countries. There the same thing is going on now. Even similar reasons are "made". What was called conspiracy theory is increasingly finding practical implementation. PS September 11, the twin towers - was also an occasion ... remember in what aspects the US was untied (about Iraq).
      1. 0
        17 May 2021 20: 35
        Quote: ALEKSEY
        Why is everyone humor?

        Why cry then? Are you afraid of "total control"? Throw away your favorite cell to begin with.))
    20. +1
      18 May 2021 02: 39
      To hold the next conference of the head of Rosgvardia and Putin, at which the head of the Rosgvardia will carry another nonsense in the style of "increasing the age from which you can pick up a knife until the 21st year. To buy a knife, enter a medical examination, courses, customs duty. To purchase a real kitchen knife, you must first hold a wooden knife for five years "
    21. +1
      18 May 2021 04: 36
      Well, now the sale of knives will probably be toughened.
    22. -1
      18 May 2021 09: 50
      To what Putin has brought the country, we are already killing each other ...
    23. 0
      18 May 2021 11: 26
      will they squeal about the need to ban knives?
    24. -1
      18 May 2021 11: 43
      forgive me if we tighten the turnover of knives, but what documents do you need to collect on the slicer then?))

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