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Hamas has rockets for another 2 months of shelling - the Israeli blockade of the Gaza Strip failed

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Israeli media, referring to the military and intelligence community of the country, report that with the current intensity of shelling of Israel from the gas sector, the number of missiles at the disposal of the Hamas combat wing will be enough for another 2 months of full-scale hostilities. This is despite the fact that, according to Israel itself, more than 1,5 missiles exploded on its territory in just a few days of confrontation. Several dozen of them were not intercepted by the Iron Dome missile defense systems and caused damage to residential areas and civilian infrastructure in Israel.


If the combat wing of Hamas really has thousands of missiles at its disposal, and if this number is enough for two months of shelling on Israeli territory, then this only indicates that the Israeli blockade of the Gaza Strip is not yielding results. The blockade of the Palestinian sector by Israel has been going on for several years, while de jure some "humanitarian corridors" have been opened, including for the provision of medical aid and for the delivery of food and other goods under the close supervision of the Israeli military. However, Israel did not reach the main point. The blockade of the Gaza Strip gave absolutely no results in terms of countering the armament of the aforementioned combat wing of Hamas, having suffered an outright fiasco.

The appearance of a huge number of missiles in the Gaza Strip indicates at least the delivery there of components for these ammunition, which Hamas uses in shelling Israel. And if such a delivery takes place, then the question arises: for what purpose is Israel continuing to implement the blockade of the Palestinian territories? Israel must answer this question first of all to itself.

A situation has arisen in which the blockade does not lead to the blocking of military supplies to Gaza, to blocking the supply of goods and materials that can be turned into sufficiently effective ammunition at local production facilities. Does not lead to the loss of the possibility of creating such industries by the Hamas group. But it leads to aggravating humanitarian problems and, as a result, to an increase in anti-Israeli sentiment in the sector.



All this from the outside looks like a short-sighted policy of the Israeli leadership - at least. And as a maximum - a kind of cultivation of anti-Israeli sentiments, actions to increase the popularity of the Hamas movement in the same Gaza (and now in the West Bank of the Jordan River) by the Israeli authorities in order to solve their own political problems.
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  1. Victor_B
    Victor_B 17 May 2021 09: 08
    +12
    The fight was equal ... (c)
    Fight of a toad with a viper ...
    1. For example
      For example 17 May 2021 09: 18
      +9
      If the whole of Israel will be demolished, then in this case, the Jews will write that the "iron dome" missed only a couple of percent of the missiles. laughing

      It's just that the number of missiles fired by the enemy was several hundred billion. wassat
      1. Guards turn
        Guards turn 17 May 2021 09: 23
        +12
        Yeah. Somewhere 50-50 Dome vaunted catches. Palestinian radicals from the Gaza Strip since May 10, fired about 2 rockets at Israeli cities, 900 of them were intercepted, the army press service said.
        1. Trapp1st
          Trapp1st 17 May 2021 09: 28
          +32
          about 10 missiles have been fired from the Gaza Strip since May 2
          How do you like Elon Musk)
          1. For example
            For example 17 May 2021 09: 41
            +27
            Quote: Guards turn
            Aha. Somewhere 50 to 50 The vaunted dome catches.

            You can't write that about Jews. laughing

            Did you get Minus?

            These are sanctions from the Jewish population of the site. fellow
            1. prior
              prior 17 May 2021 10: 00
              +19
              But clever Katz has long suggested surrender ... yes

              1. For example
                For example 17 May 2021 11: 04
                +6
                As long as the Jew will think that he is more important to God than his neighbor, there will be war.

                Moreover, the neighbors have lived there for hundreds of years.
                As long as there are real chronicles.

                As soon as the Jews begin to reckon with the right of a neighbor to life itself, conflicts will become less and less frequent.

                But who will let them go against the rules?

                The rules are written there in English.
                1. Shurik70
                  Shurik70 17 May 2021 12: 04
                  +6
                  Would you like to cut off military supplies - would cut off 100%
                  With full control over "humanitarian corridors", minefields on the perimeter and total control of the sea, it's easy. Moreover, the territory there is small, 45x10 km
                  So if HAMAZ has so many missiles, it's made by Israel intends to.
                  When there are enemies around, it is easier to crush the opposition and maintain the unity of the people
                2. Alexander Skorik
                  Alexander Skorik 17 May 2021 16: 20
                  -2
                  "The rules are written in English." English-speaking Jews in power in Britain, such as the Queen of England and the entire English elite. In Israel live mainly the direct descendants of the Khazar, whom the Jews accepted to Judaism a long time ago, but who are not descendants of the Old Testament Jews by blood. The Khazars are direct relatives of the very Arabs with whom they have long and fiercely fought for life and death.
                  1. Nikon OConor
                    Nikon OConor 17 May 2021 19: 46
                    +1
                    What does the term "semmit" tell you?
                    For me, these are the descendants of the Old Testament Shem, the descendant of Adam. Arabs and Jews are mostly Semites. Why do Khazars go there?
                    1. Pushkar
                      Pushkar 18 May 2021 10: 38
                      0
                      Quote: Nikon OConor
                      What does the term "semmit" tell you?

                      "Semmit" is from the word "semmets"?
            2. Pereira
              Pereira 17 May 2021 10: 48
              +12
              There are more of us.
              And if on the subject - no matter how many months the Palestinians have enough missiles. It is important how many anti-missiles the Jews have left.
              1. Stepan S
                Stepan S 17 May 2021 11: 00
                +7
                Yes, this is much more important. The number of missiles cannot be infinite, and if suddenly there is nothing to shoot down with, the situation will seriously worsen for Israel.
        2. Maki Avellevich
          Maki Avellevich 17 May 2021 09: 40
          +2
          Quote: Guards turn
          Yeah. Somewhere 50-50 Dome vaunted catches. Palestinian radicals from the Gaza Strip since May 10, fired about 2 rockets at Israeli cities, 900 of them were intercepted, the army press service said.

          for those who just got out of the tank.
          terrorists fire, for example, 100 missiles at targets
          10 missiles fell at the start / engine did not start 90 left in the air

          since the missiles are not guided, then some of the missiles (say half) will not fall on the residential areas of Israel (only there, by the way, are the valiant warriors of the desert aiming)
          there are 45 missiles left that represent the attack on towns and villages.

          do you understand the math of calculations?
          1. For example
            For example 17 May 2021 09: 54
            +11
            Quote: Maki Avellievich
            do you understand the math of calculations?

            I forgot to write about the iron dome.
            Where are you sleeping? laughing

            And what do you have against the tankers?

            And yet, the terrorists are not firing missiles "for example," but for hitting specific targets.
            And if they are terrorists, then also to intimidate the population.

            As you can see, this is not at all self-indulgence and not at all "for example."

            Quote: Maki Avellievich
            terrorists fire 100 missiles for example


            The teacher of you is bad. The examples are unfortunate. wink

            ONE missile can kill a civilian.
            Just one.

            So, your mathematics is not there and in the wrong place.
            1. Maki Avellevich
              Maki Avellevich 17 May 2021 09: 57
              -1
              Quote: For example
              And what do you have against the tankers?

              I love tankers!
              it's just that when the hatches are battened down, they don't hear shit in the tank.
              Quote: For example
              I forgot to write about the iron dome.
              Where are you sleeping?

              thinking that he can correctly deduce the percentage of efficiency himself.
              1. For example
                For example 17 May 2021 10: 57
                0
                Quote: Maki Avellievich
                it's just that when the hatches are battened down, they don't hear shit in the tank.

                There is communication in the tank.
                And when the hatches are battened down and when they are open.

                It's just that someone wants to look cooler against someone else.

                For example, one guy who was not poisoned by life all the time wanted to hear his name from Putin.
                But he didn’t wait.

                This is me for an example. wink
            2. Maki Avellevich
              Maki Avellevich 17 May 2021 10: 10
              +4
              Quote: For example
              I forgot to write about the iron dome.
              Where are you sleeping?

              And what do you have against the tankers?

              And yet, the terrorists are not firing missiles "for example," but for hitting specific targets.
              And if they are terrorists, then also to intimidate the population.

              As you can see, this is not at all self-indulgence and not at all "for example."

              Quote: Maki Avellievich
              terrorists fire 100 missiles for example


              The teacher of you is bad. The examples are unfortunate.

              ONE missile can kill a civilian.
              Just one.

              So, your mathematics is not there and in the wrong place.

              I will not interfere with your flight of thought.

              I will just say that Poking does not suit you. and also did not understand your idea.

              and also not for you to tell me what can and what is not a rocket launched by a kami. the city which I can watch from the comfort of my home.
              I have the honor.
        3. tralflot1832
          tralflot1832 17 May 2021 10: 27
          +3
          It is not necessary to intercept the city with a big mind, it costs only $ 20000. The Israelis were able to reduce the cost of technology, how many times an iron dome rocket can correct its flight, in the video I see that twice.
        4. JD1979
          JD1979 17 May 2021 22: 54
          0
          Quote: Guards turn
          Yeah. Somewhere 50-50 Dome vaunted catches. Palestinian radicals from the Gaza Strip since May 10, fired about 2 rockets at Israeli cities, 900 of them were intercepted, the army press service said.

          2900 in total. Of these, a fairly large number did not fly anywhere due to marriage. Large numbers fell in the desert. 1150s were intercepted as their impact zone was in the domed area, and several missiles that MUST be intercepted passed the defenses. Now you would not know the basic principle of the LCD - to intercept only threatened targets, on the rest flying to deserted places, to spend missiles - money down the drain.
        5. Pushkar
          Pushkar 18 May 2021 10: 34
          +2
          Quote: Guards turn
          Aha. Somewhere 50 to 50 The vaunted dome catches.

          And I wonder how many missiles will our missile defense intercept in the same Voronezh or Pskov provinces? Giggle? I know only one area in Russia covered by missile defense - Moscow.
      2. miru mir
        miru mir 17 May 2021 10: 00
        +7
        published 90% efficiency
        1. Alex Justice
          Alex Justice 17 May 2021 11: 03
          +3
          published 90% efficiency

          Judging by the film somewhere it is. Affective remedy.
      3. vadim dok
        vadim dok 17 May 2021 14: 53
        0
        In addition to the blockade of the Gaza Strip by Israel, there is also a foam rafah controlled by Egypt!
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      1. Cananecat
        Cananecat 17 May 2021 09: 38
        +17
        Aron. How did it happen that the Israeli special services patted so many missiles in storage? They were not collected yesterday. It was necessary to find storage places for quick delivery, to organize the device of launch points ... it is hard to believe that Israel's intelligence did not keep this under control ...
        1. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 17 May 2021 09: 40
          +6
          Quote: Canecat
          Aron. How did it happen that the Israeli special services patted so many missiles in storage? They were not collected yesterday. It was necessary to find storage places for quick delivery, to organize the device of launch points ... it is hard to believe that Israel's intelligence did not keep this under control ...

          What do you mean? There were rough estimates. And they store weapons mainly in densely populated areas. So, without a serious conflict, you won't jerk too much.
          1. For example
            For example 17 May 2021 09: 47
            +9
            Quote: Canecat
            storage places for quick delivery, organize launching points ...

            Jews trade weapons all over the world.
            And they say that if not they, then someone else will sell.
            Loot does not smell.

            Who knows, maybe commerce took over here too.

            It's so close!

            Well, loot, loot, loot ...

            And to those who think that this is a prejudiced attitude towards Jews, let me remind you that the diesel fuel in the tamed tanks comes from Russian bowels.

            Businessmen are selling war.
            And these merchants are by no means the owners of stalls.
            1. d1975
              d1975 18 May 2021 21: 11
              0
              And to those who think that this is a prejudiced attitude towards Jews, let me remind you that the diesel fuel in the tamed tanks comes from Russian bowels.
              and not only, they call us enemies, but how many are on earnings in Russia, how many other products they sell. What nafig sanctions, if the trade turnover is billions, this is news for us on TV, and many don't know this, but they wave flags. I’ll say more, and I’ll get minuses, we ourselves are behaving abnormally - the rulers. Double standards on TV are one thing in life. I very rarely watch news, because there is none, sheer propaganda.
          2. CYM
            CYM 17 May 2021 13: 48
            +5
            Of course, it is easier and more interesting, "without a serious conflict," to catch the "Shell" in Syria with an empty ammunition load ... winked Israel stubbornly destroyed alleged Iranian missiles in Syria, and thousands of missiles flew across Israel from Gaza. Who would have thought.
        2. tlauicol
          tlauicol 17 May 2021 09: 42
          +12
          Quote: Canecat
          Aron. How did it happen that the Israeli special services patted so many missiles in storage? They were not collected yesterday. It was necessary to find storage places for quick delivery, to organize the device of launch points ... it is hard to believe that Israel's intelligence did not keep this under control ...

          Probably tracked. We are also seeing NATO activity near the borders, and what can we do about it? Bomb the bases and warehouses?
          1. For example
            For example 17 May 2021 09: 52
            0
            Quote: Tlauicol
            NATO is near the borders, and what to do about it? Bomb the bases and warehouses?

            It can start by banning the supply of goods needed by the enemy's military.

            Or is it not comme il faut to the WTO members?
            1. Pereira
              Pereira 17 May 2021 10: 51
              0
              Ban the sale of the S-400, or what?
          2. Vitaly gusin
            Vitaly gusin 17 May 2021 11: 02
            -3
            Quote: Tlauicol
            We are also seeing NATO activity near the borders, and what can we do about it? Bomb the bases and warehouses?

            What could be the questions?
            Required!
            When shelling your capital.
            Jerusalem comes under rocket fire from Hamas
            We are talking about missiles with a range of up to 120 km with a heavy warhead
            1. tlauicol
              tlauicol 17 May 2021 11: 11
              0
              It’s about unacceptable measures. How to prevent Hamas from stockpiling weapons in basements?
              1. Vitaly gusin
                Vitaly gusin 17 May 2021 11: 42
                0
                Quote: Tlauicol
                How to prevent Hamas from stockpiling weapons in basements?

                This is the same as how to prevent NATO activity at your borders.
                1. Pilat2009
                  Pilat2009 17 May 2021 22: 57
                  0
                  Quote: Vitaly Gusin
                  This is the same as how to prevent NATO activity at your borders.

                  A bit wrong. We cannot bomb the countries moving along our borders. You calmly strike in Syria, Iran and Gaza. The only question is why it was not done preventively in Gaza. There would be as many casualties as now.
            2. Nikon OConor
              Nikon OConor 17 May 2021 19: 58
              +1
              When shelling your capital.
              .
              Jerusalem comes under rocket fire

              Is Jerusalem your capital? That is, you send the UN to ... as well as your allies from the states. Tel Aviv is no longer comme il faut? And the fact that Jerusalem is half owned by the Arabs and is a city under the jurisdiction of the UN is no longer relevant? The UN can also nafig then, and we will resolve controversial issues with a club? By the way, we have a bigger club, heavier and more authentic.
        3. mihai_md2003
          mihai_md2003 17 May 2021 09: 45
          +3
          Because they ironed Syria regularly, there were not enough resources for the sector.
        4. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 17 May 2021 12: 07
          +4
          "that the Israeli intelligence services have patted so many missiles in storage?" ///
          ---
          I agree. Intelligence was not working well.
          1. yehat2
            yehat2 17 May 2021 14: 02
            +1
            Quote: voyaka uh
            I agree. Intelligence was not working well.

            do not agree. The reconnaissance worked well. In general, Israeli intelligence is showing miracles of efficiency.
            but the actions of the Israeli authorities created such an amount of hatred that they raised a wave too big for intelligence to fully embrace.
            Analysts did not work well, preferring to rely only on what came from intelligence reports and did not predict the real picture.
            And a tough nationalist policy greatly complicates the introduction of agents.
      2. yehat2
        yehat2 17 May 2021 09: 41
        +20
        why are you constantly getting personal?
        nothing more to say? what is happening is precisely the metaphor of the toad and the viper.
        Both sides are doing tough and it is impossible to figure out who is right, unlike Israeli propaganda.
        Few approve of the shelling from Palestine, but Israel is doing no less evil.
        it's just that houses are dubbed not with rockets, but with bulldozers and tanks.
        There is no fundamental difference.
        And this is exactly what Victor said and received rudeness from you in return.
        Maybe you want to explain how it happened that in this region the Arabs lost 40% of the territory in which they lived in 70 years? Or will the explanation be in the "everyone's gone to make rockets" style?
        How is it that Israeli citizens, who are considered Palestinians, are denied entry to a number of cities and territories? And it's not only about bearded men with calluses on the index finger, but also about women with children.
        Would you like to talk about it instead of trolling and insults?
        1. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 17 May 2021 09: 53
          -22%
          Quote: yehat2
          why are you constantly getting personal?
          nothing more to say? what is happening is precisely the metaphor of the toad and the viper.
          Both sides are doing tough and it is impossible to figure out who is right, unlike Israeli propaganda.
          Few approve of the shelling from Palestine, but Israel is doing no less evil.
          it's just that houses are dubbed not with rockets, but with bulldozers and tanks.
          There is no fundamental difference.
          And this is exactly what Victor said and received rudeness from you in return.
          Maybe you want to explain how it happened that in this region the Arabs lost 40% of the territory in which they lived in 70 years? Or will the explanation be in the "everyone's gone to make rockets" style?
          How is it that Israeli citizens, who are considered Palestinians, are denied entry to a number of cities and territories? And it's not only about bearded men with calluses on the index finger, but also about women with children.
          Would you like to talk about it instead of trolling and insults?

          But how can you discuss frank nonsense?
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        2. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 17 May 2021 10: 53
          +5
          How is it that Israeli citizens, who are considered Palestinians, are denied entry to a number of cities and territories? And it's not only about bearded men with calluses on the index finger, but also about women with children.

          Citizens of Israel, regardless of origin, can enter any city in Israel. Unfortunately, since young Arabs behave in an inappropriate manner, very often interfere with cultural recreation yes
          1. Nikon OConor
            Nikon OConor 17 May 2021 20: 05
            +1
            the pogroms of the Arab quarters is the cultural rest of the Jews ?. Well, how can they interfere? Ugliness!!
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 17 May 2021 20: 28
              0
              This followed after the burning of the synagogue, schools by the Arabs, attempts to lynch Jewish drivers, stone throwing on the roads, etc. - Jews are not tolerant enough, not French laughing
              And they interfere with cultural recreation - they began to pester a girl strolling along the embankment with her mother. The father / husband followed them, made a remark to them - they beat him to death.
              Flocks can pester a girl with a guy, etc.
              1. Nikon OConor
                Nikon OConor 17 May 2021 20: 30
                -2
                Well, yes, savage people do not want to put up with the inferiority implanted in them by the Jews. This new light was passing. There were no wild people left there. And there is no more - "zoos / reservations".
                1. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 18 May 2021 04: 59
                  +4
                  laughing
                  Of course, that's why you have to pester women in a dirty way, the main thing after that is to show the whole world a picture in time of how they kick you for it - Palestinian Lives Matters yes
                2. Pushkar
                  Pushkar 18 May 2021 10: 53
                  0
                  Quote: Nikon OConor
                  Well yes, wild people,

                  Have you come across Caucasians? With Dag, Chechens? Well, yes, that's a completely different matter.
          2. Evil543
            Evil543 17 May 2021 20: 47
            +3
            It's good that the Arabs did not get to Gelendzhik and do not interfere with cultural recreation laughing
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 18 May 2021 04: 56
              +1
              Quote: Evil543
              It's good that the Arabs did not get to Gelendzhik and do not interfere with cultural recreation laughing

              In Gelendzhik they would have been shown "cultural rest" laughing
        3. And Us Rat
          And Us Rat 17 May 2021 11: 59
          +2
          Quote: yehat2
          Israeli citizens who are considered Palestinians

          "Palestinians" are not Israeli citizens. fool
          Tell me, is your ignorance in matters concerning Israel fundamental? Is it so difficult to study the topic in which you are trying to polemize?
          What audience is your performance intended for? Shkolota? Do the laurels of the Poles keep you awake in terms of anti-Semitism? No.
          1. Richard
            Richard 17 May 2021 15: 23
            +2
            What audience is your performance intended for? Shkolota? Do the laurels of the Poles keep you awake in terms of anti-Semitism?

            And you do not admit that he may well not be an anti-Semite but an ordinary internationalist for whom the lives of both Jews and Poles and Palestinians are equally dear?
            1. And Us Rat
              And Us Rat 17 May 2021 16: 43
              -3
              Quote: Richard
              And you do not admit

              I do not admit.
              All of his comments are one-sided, cynically biased, and ooze with double standards.
              In all his "judgments" the Jews and Israel are always bad and always to blame for everything, simply by the fact of their existence.

              Quote: Richard
              for whom life as Jews is equally dear ...

              His???!!! wassat wassat wassat
              Of course the roads, if there were no Jews, he would have to invent them. lol
            2. Old Skeptic
              Old Skeptic 17 May 2021 20: 38
              0
              the roads of life as Jews

              Or maybe he doesn't care about both. He is simply for universal human values.
        4. Vitaly gusin
          Vitaly gusin 17 May 2021 12: 02
          +3
          Quote: yehat2
          Few approve of the shelling from Palestine,

          There is no Palestine since 1948!
          Today, there is Gaza ruled by Hamas.
          And there is a Palestinian Authority within Israel
          Oslo Agreement II divided the West Bank into three administrative units: districts A, B and C
          zone A is in exceptional the conduct of the Palestinian Authority;
          Zone B is administered as The Palestinian Authority and Israel;
          Zone C ruled by Israel
          Quote: yehat2
          Maybe you want to explain how did it happen that in this region the Arabs lost 40% in 70 years territory in which they lived?

          Please, in more detail, what I have highlighted i.e. what territories and 40 years what years.
          Without accurate information, it looks like a reprint from the PRAVDA newspaper for 1980.
          I want to believe that you will not get off with only a minus (although I don't care about it) as the majority do, but prove your case.
          1. yehat2
            yehat2 17 May 2021 13: 19
            +6
            Quote: Vitaly Gusin
            More details please

            Is the essence of the question clear enough?
            1. Vitaly gusin
              Vitaly gusin 17 May 2021 13: 37
              -7
              Quote: yehat2
              Is the essence of the question clear enough?

              The maps are represented by you, not close the crux of the matter.
              Please explain each one on based on historical data.
              IF YOU DO NOT DO IT, I WILL HAVE TO DO ME
              1. yehat2
                yehat2 17 May 2021 13: 51
                +2
                Quote: Vitaly Gusin
                I WILL HAVE TO DO

                make it useful to everyone.
                I do not know the complete picture.
                1. Vitaly gusin
                  Vitaly gusin 17 May 2021 15: 07
                  -3
                  Quote: yehat2
                  make it useful to everyone.

                  Go
                  INTRODUCTION
                  November 2 1917 of the year a document was issued by the Foreign Secretary of the British Empire Lord Arthur James Balfour (the text can be found on the Internet)
                  During the publication of the Balfour Declaration the term "Palestine" referred only and exclusively to a geographic region, which includes the historical Land of Israel (in Hebrew "Eretz Yisrael"), not a political entity, since no independent or sovereign entity called "Palestine" has ever existed.
                  July 24 1922 year by the decision of the League of Nations (the predecessor of the UN), adopted on the creation of a mandate in Palestine / Eretz Yisrael. By this decision, adopted as an act of international law, the League made the British Empire responsible for the implementation of the Balfour Declaration with the aim of "creating in Palestine a national home for the Jewish people." The League of Nations mandate, now legally binding, recognized the "historical connection of the Jewish people" to the region known in history as the Land of Israel, Judea and the Holy Land.
                  MAP 1
                  First map 1946 Mandatory Palestine.
                  But she too lying, Jews and Arabs lived together, but in different settlements.
                  AND THEM WAS WRITTEN IN THE PASSPORT PALESTINIAN
                  MAP 2
                  In 1947, on the basis of the Balfour Declaration and the Mandate of the League of Nations, the UN General Assembly decided on the division of the mandated territory into [b] JEWISH AND ARAB STATE This decision was supported by 33 states that included the USSR.
                  THERE IS NO GEOGRAPHIC CONCEPT PALESTINE
                  ARABIAN COUNTRIES REFUSED THE STATE THEY WANTED ALL
                  The Arab League (LAS) declared war. And seven countries attacked Israel and were defeated, and part of the land, as it had been done for centuries (I think no examples are needed), went to the winner
                  But she took part of the land Transordany and confiscated and evicted all the Jews, and annexed, and gave them Jordanian passports, and named the West Bank as opposed to the East.
                  And this you see on THIRD map And there is no concept Palestinians
                  In the 50s, support for the USSR began and they began to prepare for war, but in 1967 they lost and lost the attack base (I will not give an example from history) these are the Golan Heights and the territory of Jordan (West Bank) and the Jerusalem area and the Sinai Peninsula
                  AND GOT ​​THE FOURTH CARD
                  And then in 1973, with the support of the USSR, they STARTED ANOTHER WAR.
                  At the conclusion of a peace treaty with Egypt, the entire Sinai Peninsula was returned from Gaza, Egypt recalled
                  When concluding a peace treaty with Jordan, she abandoned the West Bank
                  Syria refused to conclude a peace treaty
                  TODAY
                  Since 2005, there is not a single Jew, civilian or military in Gaza.
                  Hamas rules there
                  West Bank
                  Oslo Agreement II divided the West Bank into three administrative units: districts A, B and C
                  zone A is under exclusive jurisdiction Palestinian autonomy ;
                  Zone B is administered as The Palestinian Authority and Israel;
                  Zone C ruled by Israel
                  They work in Israel, their standard of living is 80-100 times higher than in Gaza. But there are Hamas cells that carry out terrorist attacks and complicate life in this enclave, the PA police are fighting them together with the Israeli special services.
                  1. yehat2
                    yehat2 17 May 2021 16: 26
                    +3
                    Quote: Vitaly Gusin
                    with the support of the USSR

                    here it is worth clarifying that the USSR was not interested in any conflict on this territory. The support of the USSR was carried out for other purposes.
                    In this regard, you can read a lot of historical documents, where it all comes down to the fact that the side of the USSR was presented with the fact that either you are helping or we will go over to the United States.
                    So support is not exactly the right reflection.
                    At one time, the USSR even brought up a fleet for defense and bombed Israel by the moment-25, but these were forced measures to maintain friendly contacts, and not a directed policy. It is worth saying that the Arabs were often extremely disrespectful to our advisers and help. In general, this is one of the unfortunate pages of the USSR's foreign diplomacy. Separately, the Soviet representatives angered how the Arabs dispose of the aid provided. Libya turned out to be one of the few "correct" contacts, but not Egypt, not Syria, not Jordan. Anyway, I consider the Soviet policy in Africa extremely poorly thought out and in many respects a failure.
                    1. Vitaly gusin
                      Vitaly gusin 17 May 2021 16: 46
                      -3
                      Quote: yehat2
                      here it is worth clarifying that the USSR was not interested in any conflict on this territory.

                      And here you have a mistake
                      Before the fall of the USSR, everything was classified as "TOP SECRET" and only then was it revealed, and even then not everything.
                      During the 1967 Six Day War, Israel dealt a devastating blow to the armed forces of Egypt, Syria and Jordan. The losses of the Arab coalition amounted to: 40 thousand people killed, wounded and captured, more than 900 tanks, more than 1000 artillery barrels and more than 400 aircraft. The Israeli army's swift offensive resulted in the capture of the Sinai Peninsula, the Gaza Strip, the Golan Heights and the West Bank.
                      On June 10, the Soviet Union broke off diplomatic relations with Israel and issued a decisive warning to its leadership that if it did not stop hostilities, the Soviet Union would not hesitate to take military measures. The tough official statements of the USSR Ministry of Foreign Affairs were backed up by the dispatch of an operational squadron of ships of the Black Sea Fleet and Northern Fleets to the shores of Egypt, including with nuclear weapons on board, and a squadron of Tu-16 strategic bombers, as well as the landing of the Marine Corps in Port Said ...
                      http://www.hubara-rus.ru/kavkaz/
                      1. Pilat2009
                        Pilat2009 17 May 2021 23: 12
                        0
                        Quote: Vitaly Gusin
                        On June 0, the Soviet Union broke off diplomatic relations with Israel and issued a decisive warning to its leadership

                        Well, that's right, otherwise there would be nothing left of Egypt.
                        On May 25, Egypt's Minister of War Shams ed-Din Badran will fly to Moscow. He asks the Soviet leadership for permission to attack Israel. However, the chairman of the Council of Ministers of the USSR, Kosygin, does not give Soviet approval for a "preemptive attack against Israel", stating that "the Soviet Union is against aggression" [42]. Back in Egypt, Badran informs Nasser that the USSR will not allow Egypt to attack first, but that the USSR is committed to intervene in the military conflict if the US goes to war on Israel's side. In this regard, Nasser informs the military command of Egypt that Egypt will be forced to withstand the blow that Israel will strike first. Egyptian Air Force Commander General Sudki Mahmoud tells Nasser that such a tactic would be disastrous [4
                      2. Vitaly gusin
                        Vitaly gusin 18 May 2021 09: 09
                        -2
                        Quote: Pilat2009
                        but that the USSR undertakes to intervene in a military conflict in case the US enters the war on the side of Israel.

                        Please write when the US entered the 1967 Six Day War.
                        And why the USSR
                        On June 10, the Soviet Union broke off diplomatic relations with Israel and issued a decisive warning to its leadership that if it did not stop hostilities, the Soviet Union would not hesitate to take military measures. The tough official statements of the USSR Ministry of Foreign Affairs were backed up by the dispatch of an operational squadron of ships of the Black Sea Fleet and Northern Fleets to the shores of Egypt, including with nuclear weapons on board, and a squadron of Tu-16 strategic bombers, as well as the landing of the Marine Corps in Port Said ...
                        But it was already too late
                        The losses of the Arab coalition amounted to: 40 thousand people killed, wounded and captured, more than 900 tanks, more than 1000 artillery barrels and more than 400 aircraft. All this was supplied by the USSR.
                        In 1973, there was the same rake, and then in 1982.
                        And today on VO many brandish checkers and throw hats, who do not know history.
                      3. Pilat2009
                        Pilat2009 18 May 2021 10: 05
                        0
                        Quote: Vitaly Gusin
                        Please write when the US entered the 1967 Six Day War.

                        And when did the USSR enter the war?
                      4. Vitaly gusin
                        Vitaly gusin 18 May 2021 10: 49
                        -1
                        Quote: Pilat2009
                        And when did the USSR enter the war?

                        http://www.hubara-rus.ru/kavkaz/
                      5. Pilat2009
                        Pilat2009 18 May 2021 13: 54
                        0
                        Quote: Vitaly Gusin
                        http://www.hubara-rus.ru/kavkaz

                        Well, since this link accuses the USSR of entering the 1967 war? This is already the case of the 70s, when America was actively supplying weapons to Israel.
                      6. Vitaly gusin
                        Vitaly gusin 18 May 2021 14: 00
                        -1
                        Quote: Pilat2009
                        America actively supplied weapons to Israel and replenished the fleet of downed planes

                        Give me a link, I will read it with pleasure.
                      7. Pilat2009
                        Pilat2009 18 May 2021 14: 04
                        0
                        Quote: Vitaly Gusin
                        Give me a link, I will read it with pleasure.

                        https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%BE%D0%B9%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%A1%D1%83%D0%B4%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B3%D0%BE_%D0%B4%D0%BD%D1%8F#%D0%A3%D1%87%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%B5_%D0%B4%D1%80%D1%83%D0%B3%D0%B8%D1%85_%D0%B3%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%83%D0%B4%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B2
                      8. Vitaly gusin
                        Vitaly gusin 18 May 2021 14: 42
                        -1
                        Quote: Pilat2009
                        https://ru.wikipedia.org

                        I read, thank you, I really did not find the number of supplies. The article was adjusted in one clear direction.
                        I will make it easier for you.
                        By the mid to late 1970s, local suppliers were supplying an increasing proportion of the IDF's main weapon systems. These systems included the Reshef missile boat, the Kfir fighter jet, the Gabriel missile and the Merkava tank. The Kfir, based on plans for a French Mirage III acquired secretly through a Swiss source, was powered by a United States General Electric J79 engine, but used Israeli-designed and manufactured components for flight control and weapons delivery systems. [eleven]
                        WELL AND WHAT YOU ARE NOT LOOKING FOR.
                        Soviet active aid
                        On the Golan Front, Syrian forces received direct support from Soviet technicians and military personnel. At the beginning of the war in Syria, there was about 2000 Soviet military personnel, of which 1000 served in the Syrian air defense units. Soviet technicians repaired damaged tanks, air defense systems and radar equipment, assembled fighters that arrived by sea, and transported tanks delivered by sea from ports to Damascus. On both the Golan and Sinai fronts, Soviet troops returned abandoned Israeli military equipment to be sent to Moscow. [415] Soviet advisers were reported to have been present at the Syrian command posts "in every echelon, from battalion to headquarters." Some Soviet troops fought the Syrians and it is estimated that 20 people died and more were injured. In July 1974, Israeli Defense Minister Shimon Peres told the Knesset that high-ranking Soviet officers had been killed on the Syrian front during the war. There were rumors that several people were captured, but this was denied. However, it was noted that some Soviet Jews were allowed to emigrate immediately after the war, raising suspicions of a secret exchange. Observers wrote that seven Soviet soldiers in uniform were captured after surrendering when the Israelis took over their bunker. The Israelis reportedly brought the prisoners to Ramat David airbase for interrogation and treated the incident with great secrecy. [416] [417]

                        Israeli military intelligence reported that a MiG-25 Foxbat interceptor / reconnaissance aircraft piloted by a Soviet pilot had flown over the canal zone. [418]

                        Soviet threat of intervention

                        October 24. UN-organized meeting of Israel Defense Forces Lieutenant General Haim Bar-Lev and Egyptian Brigadier General Bashir Sharif in Sinai. [419]
                        On October 9, the Soviet cultural center in Damascus was damaged in a US Air Force airstrike, and two days later the Soviet merchant ship Ilya Mechnikov was sunk by Israeli naval forces during a battle off the coast of Syria. The Soviets condemned Israel's actions, and calls for military retaliation were heard in the government. Ultimately, the Soviets reacted by deploying two destroyers off the Syrian coast. Soviet warships in the Mediterranean were allowed to open fire on Israeli combatants approaching Soviet convoys and vehicles. There have been several cases of firefights between Soviet ships and Israeli forces. In particular, the Soviet minesweeper "Helmsman" and the medium landing ship SDK-137, guarding Soviet transport ships in the Syrian port of Latakia, fired on the approaching Israeli planes. [357]

                        During the ceasefire, Henry Kissinger brokered a series of talks with the Egyptians, Israelis and the Soviet Union. On October 24, Sadat publicly called on the American and Soviet contingents to enforce the ceasefire; this was quickly rejected in a White House statement. Kissinger also met with Soviet Ambassador Dobrynin to discuss convening a peace conference with Geneva as the venue. Later in the evening (21:35) on October 24-25, Brezhnev sent Nixon a "very urgent" letter. In this letter, Brezhnev began by noting that Israel continues to violate the ceasefire, which is a challenge for both the United States and the USSR. He stressed the need to "comply" with the ceasefire resolution and "invited" the United States to join the Soviet Union "to enforce the ceasefire without delay." He then threatened “unilaterally. We cannot tolerate arbitrariness on the part of Israel.” [420] [421] The Soviets threatened to intervene militarily on the Egyptian side in the war if they could not work together to enforce the ceasefire.
                      9. Pilat2009
                        Pilat2009 18 May 2021 16: 07
                        +1
                        Quote: Vitaly Gusin
                        We cannot tolerate arbitrariness on the part of Israel

                        So what does the last paragraph prove?
                        You are sinking our ship, we are firing at your planes. The presence of military specialists is normal, they were in Vietnam too. My father served in the air defense, it is true that he did not go to Egypt, but many colleagues were in Vietnam.
          2. Pilat2009
            Pilat2009 18 May 2021 10: 07
            -1
            Quote: Vitaly Gusin
            1973 was the same rake

            But you had to sweat, didn't it? It was just that Egypt did what you did in 69-attacked first. And don't say that it was not scary
          3. Vitaly gusin
            Vitaly gusin 18 May 2021 12: 13
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            Quote: Pilat2009
            But you had to sweat, didn't you?

            And who said that war is a PICNIC?
            Quote: Pilat2009
            It's just that Egypt did what you did in 69 - attacked first.


            17 May Jordan begins mobilization.
            On May 18, shortly after noon (GMT), the Egyptians ordered a detachment of 32 UN soldiers, who held observation posts in Sharm el-Sheikh, to evacuate within 15 minutes. The official Egyptian demand was brought to the attention of UN Secretary-General U Thant only at 4 hours of the day [18]. Wu Tan immediately orders the withdrawal of troops. On the same day, mobilization begins in Kuwait.
            On May 18, following the hasty withdrawal of UN forces, Cairo's Voice of the Arabs radio announced:
            From today, there is no longer an emergency international force protecting Israel. We will no longer exercise restraint. We will no longer appeal to the UN with complaints about Israel. The only method of influence that we apply to Israel will be a total war, the result of which will be the destruction of the Zionist state.
            (something is heard native, what you say, these are only words)
            Syrian Defense Minister Hafez Assad, who spoke a year earlier about the need to throw Jews into the sea:
            Our forces are now fully prepared not only to repel aggression, but also to begin the process of liberation, to destroy the Zionist presence on Arab soil. The Syrian army holds a finger on the trigger .... As a military man, I am sure that the time has come to enter the war of annihilation.

            On May 22, Egyptian President Nasser, having stationed a garrison in Sharm el-Sheikh, declares a blockade of the Al-Tiran Strait, closing the Israeli port of Eilat. Nasser declares: “If Israel wants war - Ahlan wa-Sahlan!
            On May 23, Israel stated that "the obstruction of Israeli shipping in the Al-Tiran Strait will be viewed as an act of war, as will the withdrawal of UN security forces (UNEF), the dispatch of Iraqi troops to Egypt and the signing of a military pact between Egypt and Jordan." He reserves the right to start hostilities.
            24 May Jordan completes the mobilization.
            On May 26, Nasser, addressing the leaders of the Pan-Arab Federation of Trade Unions, said that if war breaks out, "It will be total and its goal is the destruction of Israel."
            28 May Sudan mobilizes.
            29 May Algerian troops sent to Egypt.
            On May 30, Egypt and Jordan sign a mutual assistance agreement. Egypt sends General Abdul Moonim Riad to take command of the Allied forces on the Jordanian front.
            31 May Iraqi troops sent to Jordan.
            "Zionists at sea." Al-Arabiya Al-Jamahir, Baghdad, 8 June 1967
            Mid May - early June A. Nasser repeated the calls of the mid-50s and called on the Arab countries to attack Israel and "'throw the Jews into the sea", destroying them as a nation "and the PLO chairman A. Shukeiri said that in case of their victory," the surviving Jews will be helped to return to their countries their birth. " “But it seems to me that no one will survive,” he added.

            AND WHAT YOU OFFERED, TO WAIT THE FULFILLMENT OF THEIR WISHES AND PROMISES?
            SIX DAYS AND THEY ARE GONE WITH DREAMS, HOW TODAY IRAN IS GROWING IN SYRIA.
        5. yehat2
          yehat2 18 May 2021 11: 21
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          Quote: Vitaly Gusin
          over 900 tanks, over 1000 artillery barrels and over 400 aircraft. All this was supplied by the USSR

          you want to sit on 15 chairs at once.
          First, you reject all accusations against Israel itself, which sells weapons, that it supports the war. There can be only one of 2 - either you accuse the USSR and say - yes, we are killing Armenians, Saudis, Libyans and all those who were killed by our weapons, or you separate the supply of weapons and their use and do not run into the USSR. Either remove the cross or put on panties.
          Secondly, you ignore the fact that the USSR, even at the official level, advised the Arabs not to start a war and, in general, was one of those who contributed to Israel's survival in the initial stage.
          Thirdly, the main assistance of the USSR was directed not at attacking Israel, but at parrying the beating of Egypt on its territory. This is especially evident in the actions of the fleet and air defense regiments Cube.
          And fourthly, weapons were supplied to the Arabs not for this conflict, but within the framework of general cooperation, Soviet advisers did not work on significantly strengthening the Arab army - only training pilots, part of tankers and other use of equipment.
          And finally, the last thing. If the USSR wanted to erase Israel, it would not have done it too hard.
          But you ignore all this and take revenge for the fact that the USSR cooperated with the Arabs and did not declare isolation on them, in fact denying sovereignty.
  • And Us Rat
    And Us Rat 17 May 2021 16: 54
    -5
    Quote: yehat2
    Is the essence of the question clear enough?

    Understandable. Your cards are false and false:
    The truth looks like this:



    And the modern "Palestinians" were invented at the Lubyanka in 1964.
    Here in detail, anyone can familiarize themselves with:

    https://topwar.ru/33594-kto-izobrel-mirnyy-process-i-palestinskiy-narod-.html
    1. gsev
      gsev 17 May 2021 23: 44
      +1
      Quote: And Us Rat
      And the modern "Palestinians" were invented at the Lubyanka in 1964.
      It seems that the legendary David, being in captivity, staged a terrorist attack against the Falistimines,
      1. And Us Rat
        And Us Rat 18 May 2021 02: 15
        +1
        Quote: gsev
        It seems that the legendary David, being in captivity, staged a terrorist attack against the Falistimines,

        The character's name was Samson.
    2. yehat2
      yehat2 18 May 2021 08: 28
      0
      Quote: And Us Rat
      Your cards are false and false:

      these are not my cards, this is my question
  • yehat2
    yehat2 18 May 2021 10: 05
    +2
    this kind of trolling with pictures on Muslim sites goes


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  • A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 17 May 2021 11: 00
    +1
    Hamas mobile rocket launchers in densely populated urban areas.
    Israel will certainly destroy them, but there may be casualties among the civilian population of Gaza, which the militants use as a human shield.
    1. A. Privalov
      A. Privalov 17 May 2021 13: 35
      +1
      Three "martyrs" were killed at the Abu Hasira junction in western Gaza.
      The names of two are of no interest to anyone, and the third, as befits a martyr, went straight to the heavenly booths, into the arms of 72 virgins - the commander of the northern district of the Al-Quds Brigades of the Islamic Jihad, Husam Abu Arbid.
      Inshalla ...
      His predecessor, Bahaa Abu al-Ata, was liquidated in much the same way.

      And so, Osama al-Hasumi and Mohammad al-Pasiach went to the heavenly booths. Both were field commanders of the terrorist group "People's Resistance Committees" and were very fond of launching rockets at the cities of Israel in the hope of killing as many people as possible.
    2. yehat2
      yehat2 17 May 2021 13: 41
      +1
      Hamas headquarters was destroyed by Israel
      Not only the apartment was destroyed, but also the house and most of the quarter, i.e. several houses.
      Quote: A. Privalov
      can the life of the victim

      This is how "high-precision" strikes look like, where "can there be victims"?
      One of the claims to Israel is that its revenge is of inadequate scope and methods,
      when, under the pretext of fighting terrorists, there is actually a fight against the civilian population.
      This example shows how it happens.
      the militarily harmless facility was destroyed and a bunch of left-wing people fell victim to it.
      There was no military necessity. And this is only 1 episode out of many.
      Israel has recently dealt XNUMX such strikes. How many civilians have died completely pointlessly just for the sake of formal revenge from Hamas?
      You are lying

      well here's an example of one of the blows. The photo includes 3 completely destroyed houses standing side by side and across the road, and several more nearby are partially damaged.
      Something I doubt that they were all inhabited by Hamas.


      In addition, a number of commentators say that the Israelis show miracles of accuracy, literally falling through the windows and folding houses neatly so that no one else gets hurt.
      Well, firstly, this is not entirely true, and secondly, the only merit of the Israelis is in the non-use of especially high-yield ammunition, which simply demolish a large territory indiscriminately.
      Meanwhile, far more civilians are hit by blows than even officially marked targets.

      But there was no particular fight against launchers - just the points of infrastructure, information about which has accumulated recently, are being destroyed.
      Those. these are blows for the most part in the blind.
      1. A. Privalov
        A. Privalov 17 May 2021 13: 53
        +1
        I repeat:
        Those mourning innocent Arabs should know and remember:

        Hamas is fully responsible for the deaths of civilians in Gaza.
        He strove for this escalation and began it when he attacked Jerusalem.
        He has deliberately deployed his rocket launchers, weapons caches and headquarters in residential areas, and uses civilians as human shields. This is a war crime.
        He is bombarding our cities with rockets, trying to kill as many of our citizens as possible, and this is another war crime.
        Point.
        1. yehat2
          yehat2 17 May 2021 13: 57
          +1
          Quote: A. Privalov
          when he attacked Jerusalem

          But what can you say to the fact that the Jewish authorities themselves attacked a part of Jerusalem, which first provoked the riots and, after a series of tough events, the shelling began?
          You are so fond of talking about crimes. Appreciate these steps by the Israeli administration.
      2. Vitaly gusin
        Vitaly gusin 17 May 2021 17: 08
        -2
        Quote: yehat2
        well here's an example of one of the blows.

        Please, here's another example.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWLYu-UobVg
        A high-rise building that housed the offices of the Associated Press, Al Jazeera and other media in Gaza City was destroyed on Saturday. On the middle floors, under the cover of media services, the building housed “Hamas military intelligence facilities.” Hamas deliberately hid behind the media offices located there. The Israeli military warned in advance of the attack Hamas was hiding behind the media offices located there.
        NOTE!
        In neighboring houses, the glass in the windows is not damaged.
        I will be grateful to you if you publish the same jewelry of the destruction of the headquarters of the "bearded" in Syria.
      3. Pushkar
        Pushkar 18 May 2021 11: 11
        -1
        Quote: yehat2
        the militarily harmless facility was destroyed and a bunch of left-wing people fell victim to it.

        Civilians are warned about the strike several hours before the strike and asked to leave the target. Who did not want to leave - his choice.
    3. yehat2
      yehat2 17 May 2021 13: 49
      0
      I also want to note the massive moments of lynching of peaceful Arabs in cities where more Jews live. At the same time, the Arabs are very often accused of "attacking". When Arab families try to escape, they are often persecuted.
      I want to emphasize that I am not on the side of the Arabs - it's just that so much has been said in the media about them on the case and without that there is nothing to add. But about the reverse showdowns amazing silence.
      It is impossible to call such a self-defense.
      1. A. Privalov
        A. Privalov 17 May 2021 14: 19
        0
        Quote: yehat2
        I also want to note the massive moments of lynching of peaceful Arabs in cities where more Jews live.

        In one city, the Jews beat an Arab, and in another, the Arabs beat a Jew. There were also fights between young people in some places. There were no mass lynching.
        1. yehat2
          yehat2 17 May 2021 16: 31
          +3
          Quote: A. Privalov
          There were no mass lynching

          this is what the people bound by the charter do.
          civil charter does not restrict. I can’t give all the examples, but it seems to me that the general background of the picture is good.
          1. A. Privalov
            A. Privalov 17 May 2021 16: 49
            0
            Quote: yehat2
            Quote: A. Privalov
            There were no mass lynching

            this is what the people bound by the charter do.
            civil charter does not restrict. I can’t give all the examples, but it seems to me that the general background of the picture is good.
            ]

            This is a famous photo of the August 2019 event, when these lovely ladies in the Old City of Jerusalem began to throw themselves at police officers with knives. The police did not understand the good attitude towards them and were offended. hi
          2. Vitaly gusin
            Vitaly gusin 17 May 2021 18: 24
            -1
            Quote: yehat2
            I can’t give all the examples, but it seems to me that the general background of the picture conveys well.

            You fall for the bait for people like you and it is calculated
            AND FROM THE BEGINNING THIS WAS



            What would a soldier in another country do without pointing his FINGER
            Can calm down
            Israel defended defends and WILL DEFEND YOUR COUNTRY!
            1. yehat2
              yehat2 18 May 2021 08: 30
              -1
              Quote: Vitaly Gusin
              Israel defended defends and WILL DEFEND ITS COUNTRY

              bombing Damascus?
              carrying out attacks and assassinations in Iran and even in Argentina?
              1. Vitaly gusin
                Vitaly gusin 18 May 2021 08: 49
                0
                Quote: yehat2
                bombing Damascus?

                In the garden of elderberry and in Kiev uncle! laughing
      2. Vitaly gusin
        Vitaly gusin 17 May 2021 18: 04
        0
        Quote: yehat2
        I also want to note the massive moments of lynching of peaceful Arabs in cities where more Jews live

        I want to note that you are constantly being led away from the truth and closer and closer to terrorists.
        On Monday, May 17, a 56-year-old resident of Loda, Yigal Yehoshua, died at the Asaf Ha-Rofe hospital (Shamir medical center). He was wounded by a stone in his head during the Arab riots in the city. a week ago - on the evening of May 10. His loved ones donated his organs to those in need of a transplant.
        1. yehat2
          yehat2 18 May 2021 09: 59
          0
          no need to hang invented accusations on me, I have nothing to do with terrorists
          And I will not take a pitying story, because several hundred people have already suffered on both sides, and not one old man.
  • Maz
    Maz 17 May 2021 12: 38
    +5
    It is necessary to summarize briefly. Plato is my friend, but the truth is dearer ... 1. So, judging by the serial numbers on the boxes with the Iron Dome missiles, which flashed in the public domain, Israel has at least about 50 ready-made anti-missiles at its disposal, so Hamas will not last two months, and if it lasts, then everything will be shot down. There will be enough for Hezbollah. 000. Hamas is dying and even I can see it by the drop in the intensity of the shelling. They beat only to disturb. There is practically no damage now. 2. Although it was possible to crush the Hamas created by the Jews themselves and their special services, antifada is growing in Israel itself. The iron dome won't help here. The number of attempts and terrorist attacks themselves is growing. There is practically a civil war in the country. 3. There will be no ground operation, there will be a lot of talk, but without real action. The time for the ground operation has been lost. That is, Hamas will remain with its own people. 4. Public opinion was ambiguous about what was happening, but the Israeli society rallied against external aggression, and this can be seen even in the particularly embittered behavior of Israeli patriots, even on our website. 5. The Arab world is hiding and waiting. Although many take interest and PR with might and main. the same sultan. 6. Russia stayed with its own people and even had pluses and dividends. As strange as it sounds. However, this war is not on its territory for Russia. And it will raise the image and promote the business with arms. 7. Busy with its own problems, Israel stopped shelling Syria, which is Gut. And perhaps this is the very answer that Russian politicians and leaders told Israel so often about, warning that this is not good (therefore, it is quite appropriate to think that the First Main Directorate has not only long arms, but also good schemers ... so stir up the genius that the country dies out for the third week after 8 - this must be able to and without losing a single soldier, and maybe the IL-21.00 remembered 18 dead Russian officers) 14. If the previous is true and if not true too, then Puzzled Israel's internal problems, someone gave the Russian Federation the opportunity to gain additional room for maneuver, both in business and in politics in the Middle East. 9. Arab countries freeze relations with Israel, in Europe they are unhappy with the destruction of media buildings in Gaza. And this discontent is growing. 10 .. The image of the Jewish nation is significantly spoiled after the pogroms perpetrated by fascist Jewish youths in Bat Yam and other cities of Israel against the Arabs, who did not intend to harm the Jews in any way and sat at home with children, in cafes, etc. And the Arabs have already played on this and will play again.
    Total: there are more minuses than pluses for the Jewish state, unless, of course, the West will help them. And not to hell to climb into Syria. And We warned you. Petrov and Bashirov, they are not so Jews ...
    1. Vitaly gusin
      Vitaly gusin 17 May 2021 13: 10
      -2
      Quote: Maz
      And We warned you. Petrov and Bashirov, they are not so Jews ...

      Sitting on your porch every day
      He is waiting, it happened, for the children he is from the villages.

      Many of them fled to his grandfather in the evening;
      They twittered like birds before a dream:

      "Grandpa, darling, make me a whistle."
      "Grandfather, find me a white fungus."

      "You wanted to tell me a fairy tale today ".
      "You promised to catch the squirrel, grandfather."

      "Okay, okay, kids, give only a term,
      There will be a squirrel for you, there will be a whistle! "

      Pleshcheev A.N.
      1. konstantin68
        konstantin68 17 May 2021 17: 46
        +1
        When you have time to work, publish such opuses here. I envy directly.
        1. Vitaly gusin
          Vitaly gusin 17 May 2021 19: 57
          -2
          Quote: konstantin68
          When you have time to work, publish such opuses here. I envy directly.

          Someone has to write the truth.
          And my hobby is collecting MINUSES laughing
    2. CYM
      CYM 17 May 2021 15: 33
      0
      Petrov and Bashirov, they are not so Jews ...
      She's not them, nor their style. No spraying "Novichok" in public places, no photoshopped cover passports, no public travel schedule for BV. winked But the Mossad probably shouldn't have taken part in the "discovery" and filling of the "contents" of the laptop of Biden's son ... winked
    3. gsev
      gsev 17 May 2021 23: 53
      +1
      Quote: Maz
      That is, Hamas will remain with its

      If things go badly for Israel, it could strike at power plants or transformer stations in Gaza. Then the rocket men will have no time to dabble with rockets. They will have to solve the problem of water supply and water treatment. The costs for this are just a couple of ammunition kits for installing 155mm.
      1. Pilat2009
        Pilat2009 18 May 2021 16: 35
        0
        Quote: gsev
        Then the rockets will have no time to dabble with missiles.

        The rockets don't give a damn about water problems, but progressive mankind will have to restore
        Damage to Palestinian farmers in the Gaza Strip reached $ 17 million. These are the data of the local Ministry of Agriculture.

        The department said in a statement that the losses are growing every day by the attacks of the Israeli army (IDF), as farms are hit.

        "Israeli strikes were directed directly against dozens of agricultural facilities and warehouses," the Gaza Agriculture Ministry said in a statement.

        Wheat fields, poultry farms and livestock complexes are said to have suffered the most due to the fact that workers cannot reach the land.
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    1. Victor_B
      Victor_B 17 May 2021 09: 13
      +14
      Quote: Santa Fe
      Work, brothers!

      How's that?
      "Good luck to both sides?"
    2. Prisoner
      Prisoner 17 May 2021 09: 19
      +19
      Well, you have brothers.
    3. Dmitry V.
      Dmitry V. 17 May 2021 09: 37
      +17
      Quote: Santa Fe
      Work, brothers!

      Bomb Israel back to the stone age


      And where did the Arabs suddenly become brothers?
      Hamas does not strike at military targets, it strikes at square targets - cities with civilians in general - that is an act of terrorism.
      Choose your side more carefully
      1. Santa Fe
        Santa Fe 17 May 2021 10: 06
        -7
        Hamas is not targeting military targets, it is targeting areal targets

        In the fight against these people by all means
        are good

        Because of its distance and its backwardness, Hamas poses no threat to our country. But it copes well with our enemies
        1. Dmitry V.
          Dmitry V. 17 May 2021 12: 14
          0
          Quote: Santa Fe
          Because of its distance and its backwardness, Hamas poses no threat to our country. But it copes well with our enemies

          Remind ka, the Il-20 was shot down not by the Israelis - the "dolts" from the Syrian air defense?
          Our guys from the Air Force, special forces, medics, sappers, the militia there are "plastered" because the local Arabs somehow do not really want to fight with the barmaley for their country?
          Choose your allies more carefully.

          I have not heard that the Jews would chop off the heads of the unfaithful or burn them alive.

          The Arabs are on their minds - the barmaley will come, they will assent, what a bad Assad, they will drive the barmaley away - they will lament how bad it was with them ...
          1. Gregory 1
            Gregory 1 18 May 2021 01: 43
            -3
            Quote: Dmitry Vladimirovich (Dmitry Vladimirovich)
            Remind ka, the Il-20 was shot down not by the Israelis - the "dolts" from the Syrian air defense?

            It is ugly to lie on VO. Who created such a situation during the IL-20 landing approach - Israel. Who did not warn in advance about the start of the raid on a dedicated communication line, according to the agreements, Israel. Who confused the place of the raid-Israel. Whose plane flew up to the Il-20 and the anti-aircraft missile was retargeted at the Il-20-Israel. Who has been writing lies on the VO lately, not knowing the parameters of the air-to-air R-37M rocket - Dmitry Vladimirovich.
            1. atalef
              atalef 18 May 2021 05: 01
              0
              Quote: Gregory 1
              Who has been writing lies to VO lately

              of course you. This topic has been sucked 1000 times in the past. Israeli planes have already returned to the base when the valiant Syrian air defense fighters overwhelmed the IL.
              https://www.vesty.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-5355364,00.html
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        2. Pushkar
          Pushkar 19 May 2021 13: 19
          0
          Quote: Santa Fe
          Because of its distance and its backwardness, Hamas poses no threat to our country.

          Remember the Chechen wars? I wonder where did the mysterious "Arab mercenaries" (Khattab and others) come from then on the side of Dudayev?
      2. yehat2
        yehat2 18 May 2021 14: 28
        +1
        Quote: Dmitry Vladimirovich
        Choose your side more carefully

        choice between a toad and a viper. Maybe it's better not to choose?
        Personally, I believe that there are at least 7 parties to the conflict -
        ordinary civil Jews, ordinary Arabs, the top of Hamas, which is engaged in anything other than protecting the Arab population, the top of Israel, interested in robbing the Arabs and their complete displacement from the mandated territory, the "Arab world" - primarily Iran and Turkey, the USA, the Russian Federation and a few more smaller participants.
        I am closer to the side of neutral civilians - no matter whether Jews or Arabs. And I don't see common interests in either side. The most active ones - the Israeli authorities and Hamas - are especially disgusting. That those that others are bloody ghouls. Those who repaint are also very annoying. They mow down under normal people, but from time to time participate in tin. For example, Arab children who can throw stones at any non-Arab - they don't even care about a local Jew in front of them or a tourist. Or Jewish settlers who, for the sake of a "better life", are ready for any crime against the Arabs.
        And it is not clear to me how a Jew is fundamentally different, who takes land through a court and, with a military patrol, evicts the former owners and the Arab martyr. Both doom their victim to death.
    4. Maki Avellevich
      Maki Avellevich 17 May 2021 10: 13
      +5
      Quote: Santa Fe
      Work, brothers!

      famous wolves, your brothers.
    5. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 17 May 2021 10: 16
      +9
      - Let's go, Moishe, we'll bomb the neighbors
      - And if they bomb us in response?
      - And what for us?
    6. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 17 May 2021 10: 43
      +7
      Quote: Santa Fe
      Bomb Israel back to the stone age

      I don’t know how it was in the Stone Age, but it will be driven into financial losses for sure.
      Considering that one Tamir rocket for the Iron Dome costs three tens of thousands of dollars, the interception of 2000 Palestinian "samovars" in less than a week has already cost the Israeli taxpayer 60 million dollars. If this intensity of shelling continues for another 2 months, then a very decent amount will be released. winked
      1. Vitaly gusin
        Vitaly gusin 17 May 2021 12: 55
        0
        Quote: Nyrobsky
        I don’t know how it was in the Stone Age, but it will be driven into financial losses for sure.

        The first part, you brushed it off yourself.
        Well, the second is not so scary, this is the cost of the rocket if you want to buy it. And internally, the settlements between "Raphael" and the Ministry of Defense during the war are somewhat different. And the life of the citizens of Israel has no value. 2000 missiles were fired, and for how many times the Iron Dome worked, we find out the statistics at the end of the operation.
        So that you understand where Israel is in the economic situation.
        Media: Russia asked Israel to pay for "Sputnik V" for Syria $ 1,2 million
        Well, so that you understand that Israel's financial losses will not be driven anywhere, yes, this is a burden on society, but this is by no means a collapse.
        Israel GDP per capita 43 592USD 32nd place.
        Russia GDP per capita 27 930 USD 48 place.
        And you live and we will live.
        1. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 17 May 2021 19: 20
          +1
          Quote: Vitaly Gusin
          Well, the second is not so scary, this is the cost of the rocket if you want to buy it. And internally, the settlements between "Raphael" and the Ministry of Defense during the war are somewhat different. And the life of the citizens of Israel has no value. 2000 missiles were fired, and for how many times the Iron Dome operated, we will find out the statistics at the end of the operation. Well, so that you understand that financial losses will not drive Israel anywhere, yes, this is a burden on society, but this is by no means a collapse.
          Did I say something about financial ruin? I just indicated that it doesn't come cheap. And so I agree with you in the sense that when it comes to protecting our citizens, the financial side of the issue is secondary.
          Quote: Vitaly Gusin
          Israel GDP per capita 43 592USD 32nd place.
          Russia GDP per capita 27 930 USD 48 place.
          Well, so you divide the GDP by 9.2 million souls, and Russia by 145 million.
          Quote: Vitaly Gusin
          And you live and we will live.
          Live for yourself as best you can, in the space and environment that you have created for yourself. We do not climb to you yes
          1. atalef
            atalef 18 May 2021 05: 03
            0
            Quote: Nyrobsky
            Well, so you divide the GDP by 9.2 million souls, and Russia by 145 million.

            and now what? request
          2. Pilat2009
            Pilat2009 18 May 2021 16: 58
            0
            Quote: Nyrobsky
            Well, so you divide the GDP by 9.2 million souls, and Russia by 145 million

            and in China they divide by a billion and no one whines
    7. Toucan
      Toucan 17 May 2021 10: 57
      +7
      Quote: Santa Fe
      Work, brothers!

      Bomb Israel back to the stone age

      Excuse me, what country do you live in?
    8. Vitaly gusin
      Vitaly gusin 17 May 2021 11: 22
      0
      Quote: Santa Fe
      Work, brothers!

      Your brother is waiting for you, but there is still a 72 year old virgin left for you.
    9. husband
      husband 17 May 2021 12: 07
      0
      For Hamas fans:

      Part 3 of Art 205.2 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation. Justification of terrorism. Note 1. In this article, public justification of terrorism is understood as a public statement on the recognition of the ideology and practice of terrorism as correct, in need of support and imitation.
      With the use of the media - up to 7 years "breaks".
      1. Incvizitor
        Incvizitor 17 May 2021 12: 31
        +1
        Is this terrorism, or is it something else?
        Israel bombed a 13-story residential building in Gaza

        Israel bombed 11-story building in Gaza with offices

        Israel bombed the Palestinian ministry
        1. husband
          husband 17 May 2021 13: 43
          -3
          Here, hypothetically, from Kharkov to Belgorod, about the same distance. And now from the residential areas of Kharkov in Belgorod Bandera will launch 3000 missiles. How do we shoot down? We don't have the Iron Dome. The capacity of Thors and Shells is not for such massive attacks.

          How will Russia respond? Warn the residents of the houses near the launch points and strike with all their might ... what option still remains? Wipe yourself off?

          Terrorists need to be killed. Despite the fact that they are hiding behind civilians. Using them as hostages.

          Justifying terrorism is a crime.
      2. Achilles
        Achilles 17 May 2021 14: 28
        +2
        Quote: sot
        For Hamas fans:

        Part 3 of Art 205.2 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation. Justification of terrorism. Note 1. In this article, public justification of terrorism is understood as a public statement on the recognition of the ideology and practice of terrorism as correct, in need of support and imitation.
        With the use of the media - up to 7 years "breaks".

        You wrote everything correctly, but there is one "but", as far as I know, Russia has not yet recognized Hamas as a terrorist organization, which means this article does not work. In general, if you look at the actions of Hamas i.e. they fire at the civilian population, then this is all terrorism. But Israel is also folding houses, and not only where they lived apart from Hamas, but also civilians who have no place to go and many civilians are dying, also smells of terrorism.
      3. dauria
        dauria 17 May 2021 15: 22
        +1
        For Hamas fans: Article 205.2 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation. Justification of terrorism.


        And since when has Hamas been on the list of terrorist organizations in Russia? Our government considers them to be decent people. You will have to look for another article for speakers at VO from Russia. Or sew them a term according to the laws of other countries. They say that the EU and the US have recognized Hamas as terrorists. belay
        Look, maybe you're lucky, dear prosecutor. The law he is, "that the tongue."
        1. husband
          husband 17 May 2021 16: 52
          -3
          Gentlemen, what does Hamas have to do with it? Terrorism is a criminal act, regardless of whether the terrorist is recognized as such. Are you saying that the terrorist attack in the Kazan school can be approved and justified only because the ghoul has not yet been convicted? The question is not in the subjects, the question is in their criminal acts.

          Terrorist act - Committing an explosion, arson or other actions that frighten the population and create the danger of human death, causing significant property damage or other grave consequences, in order to destabilize the activities of government bodies or international organizations or influence their decision-making.

          The bombardment of peaceful cities with thousands of rockets is a terrorist act. The elimination of terrorists who have taken residents hostage and are using them as a human shield is a counter-terrorist operation.
          1. dauria
            dauria 17 May 2021 17: 12
            +2
            Gentlemen, what does Hamas have to do with it?


            It's not about Hamas. And the fact that you undertook to "threaten with the law" people who write on the site. There are moderators and site owners for this. Surely they have lawyers-consultants who know the "boundaries".
            For me, Hamas is the officially winning office. From the point of view of the Russian Federation, it is not terrorist. Everything that the Arabs do should be seen as a war, started by the legitimate government of the amazing entity "Gaza Strip". It's a strange thing - not a country, but a piece of a country can fight against another piece of a country.
            What, this is nowhere else and has not happened? And in the war, excuse me - only war crimes, not terrorism.
            1. husband
              husband 17 May 2021 17: 23
              -3
              From the transition to personalities, the meaning does not change - justifying terrorism is a criminal offense.
            2. Pushkar
              Pushkar 18 May 2021 12: 22
              0
              Quote: dauria
              For me, Hamas is the officially winning office.

              Hitler also won democratic elections. Well, hail Hamas?
              1. dauria
                dauria 18 May 2021 12: 43
                0
                Well, hail Hamas?


                You will ask the Russian Foreign Ministry, the State Duma and the president.
                In their opinion, these are not terrorists, but "part of Palestinian society"and you can sit down at the negotiating table with them.
                For what it is needed, it is not for us to decide.
      4. Pilat2009
        Pilat2009 18 May 2021 17: 00
        0
        Quote: sot
        For Hamas fans:

        Part 3 of Art 205.2 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation. Justification of terrorism. Note 1. In this article, public justification of terrorism is understood as a public statement on the recognition of the ideology and practice of terrorism as correct, in need of support and imitation.
        Using the media - up to 7 years old

        And in the Russian Federation, Hamas is recognized as a terrorist organization, or was it not they who were received in the Kremlin?
    10. yehat2
      yehat2 17 May 2021 16: 33
      0
      what for? Why would anyone wish evil?
      I am in favor of limiting Israeli aggression, but even in my thoughts I do not wish them harm.
  • OgnennyiKotik
    OgnennyiKotik 17 May 2021 09: 12
    +5
    Is there an explanation for how so many missiles and / or a component to them got into Gaza? These are tens if not hundreds of tons of explosives, metal, engines, etc.
    All this is not easy to translate, it is clearly someone's criminal flaw.
    1. Prisoner
      Prisoner 17 May 2021 09: 19
      +2
      If there is demand, there will be supply. And they will figure out how to get through. Transporting building materials and tools will be a problem. The weapons will be transported.
    2. Professor
      Professor 17 May 2021 09: 19
      +6
      Quote: OgnennyiKotik
      Is there an explanation for how so many missiles and / or a component to them got into Gaza? These are tens if not hundreds of tons of explosives, metal, engines, etc.

      Of course there is, because the author decided that:

      If the combat wing of Hamas really has thousands of missiles at its disposal, and if this number is enough for two months of shelling on Israeli territory, then this only suggests that Israeli blockade of the Gaza Strip does not give results.

      and completely forgot that Israel does not control the Egyptian-gas border. Such is the "semi-blockade". Well, it's like the Russian "blockade" of Georgia when all the other borders of Georgia are open. laughing
      1. OgnennyiKotik
        OgnennyiKotik 17 May 2021 09: 24
        +1
        How does Israeli society react to this? What do you plan to do about it? This is some kind of tin, they are already writing about ~ 3000 launched missiles, I understand if there were 300.
        1. Professor
          Professor 17 May 2021 09: 28
          +10
          Quote: OgnennyiKotik
          How does Israeli society react to this?

          Outraged.

          Quote: OgnennyiKotik
          What do you plan to do about it?

          The number of missiles doesn't matter. What matters is the amount of PUs that we destroy.

          Quote: OgnennyiKotik
          This is some kind of tin, they are already writing about ~ 3000 launched missiles, I understand if there were 300.

          Terrorists have few large-caliber missiles. The intensity of the shelling is already declining.
          1. Diverse
            Diverse 17 May 2021 11: 52
            +4
            I remembered an old Jewish joke)
            Two Jews are sitting in a rocking chair on a flat roof in Sderot (running to mamad, in translation, they are already tired), drinking coffee and watching the launch of rockets from Gaza. The Iron Dome works, in general, a picture of the usual routine for a city on the border. Here is another missile launch from Gaza. Rockets take off and fall on rooftops in Gaza. One Jew turns his head to the second and asks:
            -Itsik, do you know how Allah Akbar will be in Yiddish? laughing
            -
        2. yehat2
          yehat2 17 May 2021 09: 45
          +6
          Quote: OgnennyiKotik
          How does Israeli society react to this? What do you plan to do about it? This is some kind of tin, they are already writing about ~ 3000 launched missiles, I understand if there were 300.

          now you can name any more number - it is simply impossible to check.
          one thing is for sure, based on their video chronicles - there are hundreds of missiles.
          several dozen hits have already appeared in various reports.
        3. Stepan S
          Stepan S 17 May 2021 11: 09
          +9
          3000 missiles launched, this is 3000 rockets from MLRS or similar crafts, how many of these missiles have recently been fired at Donbass? And nothing, no one flinched in Europe and Israel too.
      2. Dmitry V.
        Dmitry V. 17 May 2021 09: 57
        +1
        Quote: Professor
        and completely forgot that Israel does not control the Egyptian-gas border. such is the "semi-blockade". Well, it's like the Russian "blockade" of Georgia when all the other borders of Georgia are open.


        Equating the import of seamless, seamless water pipes and ammonium nitrate into Gaza is terrorist financing - why are you talking to them?
      3. GAndr
        GAndr 17 May 2021 11: 08
        +7
        Quote: Professor
        Well, it's like the Russian "blockade" of Georgia when all the other borders of Georgia are open. laughing

        Excuse me, but Georgy, what kind of country is this? If you deign to write in Russian, then write the name of the countries in the Russian transcription ...
        1. Professor
          Professor 17 May 2021 12: 37
          -3
          Quote: GAndr
          Quote: Professor
          Well, it's like the Russian "blockade" of Georgia when all the other borders of Georgia are open. laughing

          Excuse me, but Georgy, what kind of country is this? If you deign to write in Russian, then write the name of the countries in the Russian transcription ...

          Are you talking about Tskhinvali, Sukhum, Moldova, Belarus and further down the list? Then George.
    3. Evil troll
      Evil troll 17 May 2021 09: 22
      0
      So Nitanyahu simply did not interfere with the delivery and collection of components, that's all.
      1. yehat2
        yehat2 17 May 2021 09: 49
        +9
        Quote: Angry Troll
        that's all.

        Not all. This means that Netanyahu, hiding behind one goal, pursued another.
        For example, bullying. I am not inclined to consider him so stupid that he does not understand what he is doing.
        There is another point - in the light of what is happening, it turns out that all the bombing strikes on Syria turned out to be pointless and several dozen civilians of this country were killed by the Israelis, and hundreds were wounded completely senseless.
        And I want to ask - what was it? Who will be responsible for this? Is it okay for us too?
    4. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 17 May 2021 09: 23
      +3
      Quote: OgnennyiKotik
      Is there an explanation for how so many missiles and / or a component to them got into Gaza? These are tens if not hundreds of tons of explosives, metal, engines, etc.
      All this is not easy to translate, it is clearly someone's criminal flaw.

      They make them. In general, the author has a tremendous ignorance about what Hamastan is, how it is supplied, how its economy is managed, and the same impenetrable aplomb. Okay, I will not teach anyone, since everyone has the Internet and those who wish can get a lot of information.
      1. Spring fluff
        Spring fluff 17 May 2021 09: 39
        +7
        articles about anything here is full. another small situational article to create a certain mood.
    5. dauria
      dauria 17 May 2021 09: 23
      +3
      Is there an explanation for how such a number of missiles and / or a component to them got into Gaza?


      Gaza borders Egypt on land. And a full inspection of the ship's cargo is unrealistic. One must reliably know "from agents" that there is contraband on board. Then it makes sense to turn the load upside down.
  • Essex62
    Essex62 17 May 2021 09: 25
    0
    And no sense. What will Hamas achieve? The shells will soon run out. Well, the nerves will shake the Jews, they will put decent money on the grandmother and that's it. Bored girls ...
    1. Achilles
      Achilles 17 May 2021 14: 47
      +1
      Quote: Essex62
      And no sense. What will Hamas achieve?

      Hamas has already achieved political points, and that's what they wanted
  • taiga2018
    taiga2018 17 May 2021 09: 27
    -6
    Bravo, Palestinians! Bravo, Hamas! People defend themselves as best they can and with what they can against a well-armed and well-trained enemy, and most importantly whose enemy is supported by the main world criminal, the United States, for any crimes ...
    1. And Us Rat
      And Us Rat 17 May 2021 11: 45
      +5
      Quote: taiga2018
      Bravo, Hamas!

    2. Essex62
      Essex62 17 May 2021 16: 18
      0
      The Palestinians and the Hamas terrorist group are "two big differences."
      In Russia, according to some indications, it is also possible to draw a watershed. And not all Jews in Israel have the same opinion. There are also reasonable non-militarists there.
      And the extreme anti-Semitism of some comrades does not bear a reasonable grain. War is disgusting. It is necessary to negotiate.
      1. Pilat2009
        Pilat2009 20 May 2021 12: 16
        0
        Quote: Essex62
        Necessary to negotiate

        They have been negotiating since the 1960s. Yasser Arafat was still alive. Jews insist that terrorism is bad, and so on and so forth. The Arabs no longer have leverage. The war is guerrilla. And in a guerrilla war all means are good. Once Hamas wins the elections, then the population chooses them. path. I remember how Fatah won. He tried to establish friendship with Israel. And where is Fatah now?
        1. Essex62
          Essex62 21 May 2021 10: 06
          0
          Our bourgeois United Russia also "wins" the elections. And from all sides, swearing and curses, from the majority of Russian citizens, as a result
  • tlauicol
    tlauicol 17 May 2021 09: 27
    0
    Well, the victorious reports have already started ... it means that things are bad for Hamas.
    Well, though insidious, but stupid Jews, carrying out a brutal blockade, did not think to cut off gas, electricity and water supplied at their own expense. yes
    1. Professor
      Professor 17 May 2021 09: 39
      +4
      Quote: Tlauicol
      Well, the victorious reports have already started ... it means that things are bad for Hamas.
      Well, though insidious, but stupid Jews, carrying out a brutal blockade, did not think to cut off gas, electricity and water supplied at their own expense. yes

      Yesterday residents of Gaza fired dozens of rockets at the infrastructure of the Tamar gas field from which gas is supplied to Gaza. That's all you need to know about phylystyntsi. hi
      1. tlauicol
        tlauicol 17 May 2021 09: 53
        -1
        Quote: Professor
        Quote: Tlauicol
        Well, the victorious reports have already started ... it means that things are bad for Hamas.
        Well, though insidious, but stupid Jews, carrying out a brutal blockade, did not think to cut off gas, electricity and water supplied at their own expense. yes

        Yesterday residents of Gaza fired dozens of rockets at the infrastructure of the Tamar gas field from which gas is supplied to Gaza. That's all you need to know about phylystyntsi. hi

        How cunning you Jews are angry
      2. And Us Rat
        And Us Rat 17 May 2021 11: 42
        +2
        Quote: Professor
        That's all you need to know about phylystyntsi.

  • Shahno
    Shahno 17 May 2021 09: 30
    0
    Quote: Essex62
    And no sense. What will Hamas achieve? The shells will soon run out. Well, the nerves will shake the Jews, they will put decent money on the grandmother and that's it. Bored girls ...

    Tell me what this behavior is called when you expose your creditors for money ...
    1. Kurare
      Kurare 17 May 2021 11: 57
      0
      Quote: Shahno
      Tell me what this behavior is called when you expose your creditors for money ...

      Kidalovo! hi
    2. Essex62
      Essex62 17 May 2021 16: 33
      +1
      I will not say, all this is alien to me. I am a Soviet peaceful partisan from the 70s wink Lenders, exchanges, margins, ugh. am
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 17 May 2021 09: 31
    +12
    the missiles at the disposal of the combat wing of Hamas will last for another 2 months
    I don’t know how about two months, but after a week or two, everything will gradually come to naught and return to the previous (not the best) situation. Everything revolves exclusively around politics. One wants to show what a tough Jew he is, to others that they are not reconciled with Israel, and still others are trying to get their dividends from this. The American media are seriously arguing that the conflict was ignited by Russia and that the Jews are suffering from the shelling solely through its fault. Lust for power, cynicism and loud statements from both sides.
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 17 May 2021 11: 09
      +2
      Quote: rotmistr60
      The American media are seriously arguing that the conflict was ignited by Russia and that the Jews are suffering from the shelling solely through its fault.

      Well, the fact that Russia organized everything is the nonsense of a stoned junkie, not otherwise. You will not give a link to this nonsense by chance?
      1. rotmistr60
        rotmistr60 17 May 2021 11: 13
        +4
        Norkin was shown an excerpt from an article in Fox News today.
        1. Revolver
          Revolver 17 May 2021 11: 23
          +1
          Well, I don’t watch Norkin (to be honest, I don’t even know who he is), but Fox usually doesn’t publish such nonsense. I'd rather believe it's CNN or MSNBC.
          1. rotmistr60
            rotmistr60 17 May 2021 11: 28
            +1
            I myself was surprised that it was in this media (they supported Trump), and not in the ones you mentioned above.
            1. Revolver
              Revolver 17 May 2021 11: 35
              +2
              So if you can, post a link. I visit FoxNews.com and comment regularly, and I certainly won't be too lazy to write everything I think about it.
        2. And Us Rat
          And Us Rat 17 May 2021 11: 39
          +2
          Quote: rotmistr60
          excerpt from Fox News article

          Divide and rule. The Yankees are very jealous and will do anything to ruin relations between the Russian Federation and Israel. This is just the beginning, or else it will be.
  • Shahno
    Shahno 17 May 2021 09: 32
    0
    To prevent the blockade from failing, it must at least be complete ... And our Prime Minister was apparently ashamed to ask Egypt to return Sinai back.
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 17 May 2021 11: 11
      +1
      Quote: Shahno
      our Prime Minister was apparently ashamed to ask Egypt to return the Sinai back.

      Do you need him, with all the Bedouins and ISIS bases there?
  • Slipper 2
    Slipper 2 17 May 2021 09: 33
    -4
    It is necessary to throw rockets through Iran, let the Jews bullet gold coins at pennies lol
    1. And Us Rat
      And Us Rat 17 May 2021 11: 35
      +1
      Quote: Taptyzhka 2
      We need to throw rockets through Iran

      They will not reach, as always, they will push on the road.
  • Yrec
    Yrec 17 May 2021 09: 33
    +7
    At this rate, Hamas will knock out the entire BC "Iron Dome" and the advantage in losses and damage may begin to shift in the other direction. Actually, I think this is the main strategic task of Hamas. The launch of one anti-missile missile costs Israel several tens of thousands of dollars. Launching "Kasam" is at least ten times cheaper. After the Iron Dome is exhausted, Israel will have to ramp up its airstrikes and launch a ground operation. If Hamas took this into account and prepared itself, the damage to Israel may turn out to be unacceptable for it. And behind all this lies the lives of many people.
    1. tlauicol
      tlauicol 17 May 2021 09: 49
      0
      Hamas needs to pray for the Jews to remain just as generous. As soon as the meaning disappears in the LCD, a ground operation will begin, and then you will not hide in the basement - you will have to scramble through the Sinai to Africa
    2. moscowp
      moscowp 17 May 2021 10: 21
      +8
      This is not a strategy. The US will donate money to Israel to restore and increase the stock of missiles, and their sponsors will donate money and resources to Palestine. Everyone is happy, except for the dead
      1. aszzz888
        aszzz888 17 May 2021 11: 01
        +3

        moscowp (moscow)
        Today, 10: 21
        NEW

        0
        This is not a strategy. The US will donate money to Israel to restore and increase the stock of missiles, and their sponsors will donate money and resources to Palestine. Everyone is happy, except for the dead
        Well I do not know. SAM Biden !!! laughing scolded the Jews, and told them to stop the slaughter. those. HE IS FOR PALESTINE !!! .... The people around the world are for Palestine ... Iran is very dissatisfied with Israel ... Turkey, as she generally called them a "terrorist state", I mean R. Erdogan ... Let's see.
    3. husband
      husband 17 May 2021 12: 49
      -1
      Israel with a population half the size of Moscow and the region has the same GDP. Do you think the launch of even 2 interceptor missiles will greatly strain Israel's budget? This is $ 10000 million or 200 billion rubles. Moscow spends this money on granite curbs. Not noticing .. it's just a little.

      An anti-missile missile with a probability of hitting 90% and hitting only targets capable of causing damage is extremely beneficial.

      Do you know how much real estate in Israel costs? Google it. Will soon become the world's most expensive hike. And with the unconditional need to protect priceless lives, it is quite rational to be able to also protect expensive real estate.
  • Trapp1st
    Trapp1st 17 May 2021 09: 33
    +5
    Hamas has rockets for another 2 months of shelling
    Last week, Israel again defeated everyone, bombed everyone there and overwhelmed everything ... ???
  • Dmitry V.
    Dmitry V. 17 May 2021 09: 34
    +3
    Hamas makes its rockets out of water pipes and fertilizer - cheap, not accurate, but moral ...
    Taking into account the fact that for each Hamas "pipe" (approximately flying to a settlement), at the cost of 200-300 bucks, an Israeli homing missile "Iron Dome" is spent, at a cost of more than 20000 forever green, defense systems will not be able to shoot down everything, they will deplete their arsenals ...

    This confrontation should move into the phase of the ground operation - stripping Gaza.
    1. zlinn
      zlinn 17 May 2021 09: 57
      +2
      $ 20000, is that big money? 10 interceptors cost 000M. This is 200% of the military budget of Israel, 1% of the state budget, a ten-day budget of the Tel Aviv municipality. this is the cost of 0.2 kparts in Ashdod or Ashkelon, 400M is a penny compared to the prevented damage
      1. Forcecom
        Forcecom 17 May 2021 11: 09
        +4
        here the question is not in the price as such, but in the rate of production, this is not a wargame on the PC when you spent X "resources" and you have "tanks" ready for battle immediately on the next turn, if the production capacity allows you to produce 100 missiles per month, but you spend 1000 missiles a week - things can get very sad very quickly.
      2. PROXOR
        PROXOR 17 May 2021 11: 24
        +5
        The question is different. Iron Dome missiles take time to produce. If the expense exceeds the income, then at least $ 20 at least $ 000 at some point Israel will simply run out of rockets. And given the shortage of chips now all over the world, logistics in time are stretched in time and production times are shifted.
    2. Stepan S
      Stepan S 17 May 2021 11: 14
      +2
      In the photo, the "installation" for launching is somewhat similar to a slingshot. The same level of technology and cost, respectively.
    3. Revolver
      Revolver 17 May 2021 11: 19
      0
      Quote: Dmitry Vladimirovich
      This confrontation should move into the phase of the ground operation - stripping Gaza.

      It is high time. But ... Israel is trying to be holier than the Pope and avoid, as far as possible, accompanying victims, and in the ground operation there will be more of them than necessary for the "progressive world community" to raise a howl. But if many civilians die on a regular basis in Israel, or, God forbid, Hamas manages to get into a type of kindergarten with many victims at once, the Israeli government and command will have no choice but to start an operation.
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 17 May 2021 09: 41
    +3
    Before Israel was hiding behind the bearded ones in Syria. Terrorism has no borders. Deliveries through Egypt did their job, the Israelis themselves gave the Palestinians such a military potential. According to our opponents, they know everything about everyone, but their politicians sometimes think differently.
  • Forcecom
    Forcecom 17 May 2021 09: 41
    +7
    Actually, taking into account the build quality and, accordingly, the accuracy of the Palestinian missiles flying according to the principle "to whom will Kukulkan send", one can only hope that the "steel dome" will have enough ammunition for these 2 months. I do not always agree with the policy of the State of Israel, I do not always agree with the opinion of the authors from the "Promised Land" present at the VO, but in this case I can wish them that all these "bricks" would fly by.
  • TermNachTer
    TermNachTer 17 May 2021 09: 48
    +1
    If this is true, then it is very sad for Israel. The "leaky dome" is increasingly malfunctioning. Will there be enough missiles to repel strikes? After all, in two months they can still give you a lift.
    1. And Us Rat
      And Us Rat 17 May 2021 11: 32
      +2
      Quote: TermNachTER
      If it's true

      This is a duck. Yellow "news", sucked from the finger.
      1. TermNachTer
        TermNachTer 17 May 2021 14: 02
        0
        Do you have information from the General Staff of Palestine or Israel?)))
        1. And Us Rat
          And Us Rat 17 May 2021 14: 14
          -1
          Quote: TermNachTER
          Do you have information from the General Staff of Palestine or Israel?)))

          From the window of your house. bully
          Hamas was blown away, they fired twice a day and 2-3 rockets each time. Nothing compared to the first day, when 50 pieces flew in every hour. The only damage was that a stub of a downed rocket flew into someone's window. The fragments from the interceptions are still not wadded, and sometimes they are not small, if a skiff falls on your head.

          1. TermNachTer
            TermNachTer 17 May 2021 14: 18
            0
            Well, Duc the fact that the intensity of the shelling has decreased does not at all mean that the missiles are over)) this can mean anything from regrouping to choosing a new tactic of action.
            1. And Us Rat
              And Us Rat 17 May 2021 14: 27
              -2
              Quote: TermNachTER
              does not mean at all that the missiles are over

              The Hamas are over. Rocket crew - suicide bombers, with a small chance of survival. The most defeated were weeded out in a few days, and those who stayed do not want to die.
              What is the use of thousands of missiles that no one can fire?

              Quote: TermNachTER
              from regrouping to choosing new tactics

              Rearranging, it says loudly. They have a choice of tactics, like a cockroach under a sneaker.
              1. TermNachTer
                TermNachTer 17 May 2021 15: 37
                0
                With what fright the death row? We take any field cable, rewind 500 m and start. Hit an empty spot, even until the next Yom Kippur. As for tactics, when they begin to hammer from Lebanon, we will look at the sneakers and the cockroaches. I do not quite understand your unbridled optimism))) your Bibi, did a great stupidity, the Al - Aqsa mosque is the shrine of the entire Islamic world. To solve this problem, they can briefly forget about their differences.
                1. And Us Rat
                  And Us Rat 17 May 2021 17: 31
                  -1
                  Quote: TermNachTER
                  With what fright the death row?

                  Because it is so in Gaza. request De facto, as they say "on earth".

                  Quote: TermNachTER
                  We take any field cable, rewind 500 m and start.

                  With a herd of drones hanging overhead, scanning every bush in Gaza in real time? You can immediately unwind the cable to the next world.

                  Quote: TermNachTER
                  when they start hammering from Lebanon, we'll look at the slippers and the cockroaches.

                  You might think this has never happened. Yes, even when there was no LCD. Although the probability is extremely low.
                  They have already shot them a couple of times, Hezbollah disowned them as soon as possible, the last spanking was enough for them.
                  And the shooters themselves unscrewed the bosses, out of harm's way.

                  Quote: TermNachTER
                  I don't quite understand your unbridled optimism)))

                  Just knowledge of the facts, a deep understanding of all the subtleties of the region and the nuances of the realities in which I have been living for more than 30 years (of which 21 years of service in the combat units of the IDF and the reserve.) request
                  We are having a strange dispute, as if you are trying to convince me that I live in my own house. Agree - some kind of sur.

                  Quote: TermNachTER
                  your Bibi

                  Rare radish! fellow Power ruined him. I voted against him. I hope he will go to the bunk.

                  Quote: TermNachTER
                  To solve this problem, they can briefly forget about their differences.

                  Can not. They have already clearly proven this. The rest is an owl on the globe. hi
                  1. TermNachTer
                    TermNachTer 17 May 2021 17: 42
                    0
                    We've already heard tales about drones))) both in the Donbass and in Karabakh, now it turns out that for the most part, this is the work of talented Turkish and Jewish animators))) soon the missiles fell on Israel - where were the drones looking?))) Where were the drones looking? the vaunted Mossad?))) it's not even an elephant in the bushes, it's a northern scribe, in the Negev desert)))
                    1. And Us Rat
                      And Us Rat 17 May 2021 18: 18
                      -1
                      Quote: TermNachTER
                      We have already heard tales about drones))) both in Donbass and in Karabakh

                      Don't compare a sprat to a trawler.

                      Quote: TermNachTER
                      this is the work of talented Turkish and Jewish animators)))

                      Judge by yourself? wassat

                      Quote: TermNachTER
                      missiles soon fell on Israel

                      Tens out of thousands.

                      Quote: TermNachTER
                      this is the northern scribe, in the Negev desert)))

                      Maybe a crow, or maybe a magpie. wassat
                      1. TermNachTer
                        TermNachTer 17 May 2021 19: 59
                        0
                        It was you who calculated from your window how many missiles passed through the Leaky Dome, or are there more reliable sources of information?))) I want to tell you that even one very successful hit can increase the Negev desert several times and make it a little radioactive)))
                      2. And Us Rat
                        And Us Rat 17 May 2021 20: 36
                        -1
                        Quote: TermNachTER
                        one very successful hit, can increase the Negev desert several times and make it a little radioactive)))

                        And the Earth can also hit the celestial axis. fellow wassat
                        Good evening. hi
  • Evil 55
    Evil 55 17 May 2021 09: 51
    +1
    Israel has created a storm that even the Iron Dome missile defense system cannot stop. For more missiles are always spent to intercept, and they are far from endless ..
  • Sands Careers General
    Sands Careers General 17 May 2021 09: 57
    -4
    Iron Pukal failed, and this is not surprising)))
    And how many show-offs that were)))
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 17 May 2021 10: 55
      0

      Sand Quarry General (Zhora)
      Today, 09: 57
      NEW
      -1
      Iron Pukal failed, and this is not surprising)))
      And how many show-offs that were)))
      And now they are furiously minus! bully And sho they do something, the alignment of the kumpol is visible to everyone, there is nothing more to cover .... One thing remains.
    2. And Us Rat
      And Us Rat 17 May 2021 11: 30
      -4
      Quote: General of the Sand Quarries
      Iron Pukal failed

      Dreamer.

  • Chief Engineer
    Chief Engineer 17 May 2021 09: 58
    +5
    Israel will eventually achieve its goal, it is not in vain that it is the strongest state in the Middle East and therefore has pursued and will pursue a policy beneficial to it. Judging by the comments, many hope for its fiasco gloating on every occasion, but I assure you that the winner in this confrontation will be Israel ...
    1. moscowp
      moscowp 17 May 2021 10: 36
      +13
      Israel will not be the winner in this confrontation. You can defeat the army, overthrow the regime, bomb the economy, but in place of all this there are organizations with which it is not clear how to fight and which are uncontrollable, because they have nothing to lose. This confrontation will last forever if Israel does not move from destabilizing its neighbors to a strategy of establishing peaceful coexistence with its neighbors, if at all possible.
    2. TermNachTer
      TermNachTer 17 May 2021 14: 07
      0
      What is his own? Biba Netot did a very stupid thing. Al - Aqsa Mosque, a shrine for all Muslims. The protests in Londanabad were seen, and the mayor there is a Muslim from Pakistan. And the whole Muslim world did not like it, and there are more than a billion Muslims. So, a situation may arise when the dissatisfied can only be stopped by special warheads. But will the Washington Reich Chancellery and the Brussels Reich Commissariat like it?))))
  • Tagan
    Tagan 17 May 2021 10: 01
    +8
    Quote: Maki Avellevich

    since the missiles are not guided, then some of the missiles (say half) will not fall on the residential areas of Israel (only there, by the way, are the valiant warriors of the desert aiming)
    there are 45 missiles left that represent the attack on towns and villages.

    do you understand the math of calculations?

    And where are the valiant soldiers of Israel aiming? Apparently they have super-high-precision ammunition, which, for example, in a high-rise building hit specific individuals in a particular apartment, the number of which was previously reconnoitered, where "terrorists" are hiding out of habit (where else could they be). The fact that high-rise buildings are beginning to take shape is probably a violation of the operating rules.
    1. Maki Avellevich
      Maki Avellevich 17 May 2021 10: 16
      -4
      Quote: Tagan
      And where are the valiant soldiers of Israel aiming? Apparently they have super precision ammunition,

      exactly.
    2. Dmitry V.
      Dmitry V. 17 May 2021 13: 19
      +1
      Quote: Tagan
      And where are the valiant soldiers of Israel aiming? Apparently they have super-high-precision ammunition, which, for example, in a high-rise building hit specific individuals in a particular apartment, the number of which was previously reconnoitered, where "terrorists" are hiding out of habit (where else could they be). The fact that high-rise buildings are beginning to take shape is probably a violation of the operating rules.


      Only the Israelis warn tenants a couple of hours before the "demolition".
      With civilians, is evacuated, hiding behind a "human shield" Hamas - they are "Muslim brothers" - do not hesitate to hide behind children
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 17 May 2021 10: 03
    -1
    Here is the dome, probably it turned out to be full of holes.
    1. husband
      husband 17 May 2021 12: 59
      -2
      Hamas launched 3000 rockets. 400 fell on the heads of their own children. Another 1300 fell in fields and desert. Of the 1300 remaining, the iron dome intercepted 90% - that is, only 130 missiles out of 3000 were able to reach the target.

      The final efficiency of the Iron Dome is 96%.

      It actually has no analogues in the world. An extremely effective weapon!
      1. Ros 56
        Ros 56 17 May 2021 13: 18
        +3
        Did you count it yourself or did one woman say?
        1. husband
          husband 17 May 2021 13: 49
          -1
          Is this a difficult calculation for you? Try to figure it out, you can, I believe in you
          1. Ros 56
            Ros 56 17 May 2021 19: 01
            0
            Well, counting on a barrel, since such an accountant, will you believe in yourself?
  • miru mir
    miru mir 17 May 2021 10: 04
    +5
    Quote: For example
    Jews trade weapons all over the world.

    as well as Russia. for example, both Armenia and Azerbaijan. in this case how about the smell?
  • miru mir
    miru mir 17 May 2021 10: 08
    0
    Quote: mihai_md2003
    there were not enough resources for the sector

    I am touched by such "observers" and "experts" laughing
  • Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 17 May 2021 10: 10
    +6
    It's only the beginning ! Personally, I expect that after some time the Palestinians, the Lebanese will have guided missiles ... they are not even excluded with homing! True, I can't say what time it was ... I assumed it 2-3 years ago and wrote about it then ... but it turns out that I was mistaken! But I think. that I was mistaken in the timing; but not in the fact! It is a pity that there are no "cool" Specialists on the VO who understand how to overcome air defense ...! All that is "brought" to us is "fiction" ... "light" genre! There is no more or less serious analysis of this "missile situation"! Where is our beloved E. Damantsev? Dear and adored K. Ryabov? Here's who will answer me ...: why did the Arabs not try to use missiles filled not only with explosives, but also, for example, dipole reflectors, heat traps, to interfere with the "dome", to overload the system during rocket attacks? Of course ... there are other questions ... but who can answer them?
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 17 May 2021 11: 02
      +2
      It is much cheaper and easier to overload the canopy with quantity than with quality. ...
      1. Nikolaevich I
        Nikolaevich I 17 May 2021 11: 48
        +1
        Quote: Krasnodar
        It is much cheaper and easier to overload the canopy with quantity than with quality. ...

        Well. it's "comparative-relative"! The use of "traps" can also overload the air defense system with imitation of quantity! And what is the difficulty of filling the "pipe" of "Kassam" not with ammonal, but with strips of aluminum foil and insert the "wick" with different response times? request
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 17 May 2021 12: 52
          0
          The bulk of the missile weapons used by Hamas are Syrian, Iranian, and Chinese-made. The complication of the process of making our own products is possible, but it will go to the detriment of quantity, and a losing race with the Israelis in technology will begin in advance (the latter have a fairly solid base of knowledge, plus access to technologies from any Western country). This will not lead to anything good, except for unnecessary problems for the Arabs.
          1. Nikolaevich I
            Nikolaevich I 17 May 2021 14: 43
            0
            Quote: Krasnodar
            The bulk of the missile weapons used by Hamas are Syrian, Iranian, and Chinese-made. The complication of the process of making your own products is possible, but it will go to the detriment of the quantity,

            But, as the media and experts write, a considerable number of missiles are manufactured "on the spot"! The same "kassams", for example! The Palestinians, perhaps, will only need to supply warheads (warheads), incl. and with a guidance system ... which can be of varying degrees of difficulty! (How long will it take to get a warhead to slobber to the "cassam" (carrier)? By the way, it is better to make the warhead detachable ...)
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 17 May 2021 15: 06
              0
              The problem is in the production of such warheads, the establishment of new technological processes, etc. And this will only lead to a very serious blow to Gaza.
      2. Kurare
        Kurare 17 May 2021 12: 09
        +2
        Quote: Krasnodar
        It is much cheaper and easier to overload the canopy with quantity than with quality. ...

        The main advantage of the LCD, in my opinion, is its brains, i.e. the possibility of selection of ballistic targets for dangerous and "into milk". The missiles themselves, although quite maneuverable, are subsonic.

        Now, imagine targets that do not fly along a ballistic trajectory, but actively maneuver. LCD will simply not be able to cope with such a flow of information.
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 17 May 2021 13: 02
          0
          Quote: Kurare

          The main advantage of the LCD, in my opinion, is its brains, i.e. the possibility of selection of ballistic targets for dangerous and "into milk". The missiles themselves, although quite maneuverable, are subsonic.

          Now, imagine targets that do not fly along a ballistic trajectory, but actively maneuver. LCD will simply not be able to cope with such a flow of information.

          Easily
          They are more expensive, all manufacturers are "in pencil", it is much easier to track and intercept their delivery, and the organization of the production process for such high-tech products in Gaza is very problematic.
          And, perhaps, the main disadvantage of using such weapons lies in the political plane.
          Not a single Israeli government, in the event of heavy losses, dares to face the danger of losing power due to dissatisfaction with voters. An example is the defeat of Ehud Barak in early elections during the second intifada (lost to Sharon, who has the image of a brutal Arab thunder-general).
          The people will want a ground operation and, possibly, the re-occupation of Gaza - but does Hamas want that?
          1. Nikolaevich I
            Nikolaevich I 17 May 2021 14: 53
            0
            Quote: Krasnodar
            the organization of the production process for such high-tech products in Gaza is very problematic.

            Well, the solution to the problem with "high-tech products" can be approached from different angles ... Who knows that rockets with "gas-dynamic transverse control" ... in a simpler way ... even more so if we are talking about a prototype! (missiles could drastically change their flight trajectory ...)
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 17 May 2021 15: 07
              0
              So where will all this lead? To a very strong Israeli retaliation?
              1. Nikolaevich I
                Nikolaevich I 17 May 2021 15: 48
                0
                Quote: Krasnodar
                So where will all this lead? To a very strong Israeli retaliation?

                Quite possibly! But here's the catch ... how many "strong Israeli retaliatory strikes" have already been? But they never "pacified" the Palestinians! request
                1. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 17 May 2021 16: 10
                  0
                  There was never really a strong person.
          2. Kurare
            Kurare 17 May 2021 15: 50
            +2
            Quote: Krasnodar
            The people will want a ground operation and, possibly, the re-occupation of Gaza - but does Hamas want that?

            Does Israel need it? I think that it is the government of Israel that this hemorrhage is definitely not needed. The losses on the part of the soldiers will be and they are unpredictable in size. There is no need to go into this mess.
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 17 May 2021 16: 14
              0
              The government does not need to lose power, like any government, and the losses among the soldiers will go in the event of large losses among the Israeli civilians.
    2. And Us Rat
      And Us Rat 17 May 2021 11: 27
      -2
      Quote: Nikolaevich I
      Personally, I expect that after some time the Palestinians, the Lebanese will have guided missiles.

      And then the starships and the death star. wassat
      Educational program helps to avoid manilovism. wink
      1. Nikolaevich I
        Nikolaevich I 17 May 2021 11: 40
        0
        Quote: And Us Rat
        And then the starships and the death star

        Looks like it's high time for you to visit a therapist!
  • miru mir
    miru mir 17 May 2021 10: 10
    +5
    Quote: Santa Fe
    Work, brothers!

    Do you perform the obligatory five-fold prayer, alhamdulillah ?!
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 17 May 2021 11: 04
      -1
      I wonder which madhhab belongs to the brother of Santa Fe - French or South Korean?
      1. miru mir
        miru mir 17 May 2021 11: 25
        +1
        yes so that's bar bir wink if only to stand up for peace
  • miru mir
    miru mir 17 May 2021 10: 12
    +3
    Quote: OgnennyiKotik
    There is an explanation for how so many rockets got into Gaza

    most likely smuggling across the Egyptian border
  • miru mir
    miru mir 17 May 2021 10: 16
    +1
    Quote: taiga2018
    People protect themselves as they can and with what they can

    all nabarot, bro-attack, not defend themselves!
  • miru mir
    miru mir 17 May 2021 10: 18
    +4
    Quote: Taptyzhka 2
    We need to throw rockets through Iran

    you are kind, uncle. sell the hut and send bablishko!
  • Moskovit
    Moskovit 17 May 2021 10: 19
    +9
    Shaw is everyone worried about Israel? Synagogue stands are bringing far more casualties to the country than thousands of Hamas rockets. After this war, the Israelis will twist something in the dome. Iranians in rockets. Hamas will strengthen its position. Netanyahu will not sit in turma. The status quo will continue ...
  • Tagan
    Tagan 17 May 2021 10: 20
    +2
    Quote: Maki Avellevich
    Quote: Tagan
    And where are the valiant soldiers of Israel aiming? Apparently they have super precision ammunition,

    exactly.

    Who would have doubted. After all, all those killed are terrorists. They become them at birth.
  • Vitaly gusin
    Vitaly gusin 17 May 2021 10: 30
    -3
    If the combat wing of Hamas really has thousands of rockets at its disposal, and if this number is enough for two months of shelling on Israeli territory, then this only means that the Israeli blockade of the Gaza Strip is not yielding results.
    May 17, that from 19:00 Sunday to 07:00 Monday, a launch was recorded approximately 60 missiles from the Gaza Strip across Israeli territory.
    About 10 rockets fell on the territory of the sector. Dozens were shot down by the Iron Dome missile defense system.
    No hits and no damage
    On Monday, May 17, the press service of the Israel Defense Forces announced the third phase of liquidation of the large-scale underground project of Hamas
    Within about 20 minutes, 35 targets were attacked. The attack was carried out by 54 aircraft, which dropped about 100 bombs on the underground infrastructure of the terrorists. As a result, at least 15 km of underground tunnels were attacked.
    All this from the outside looks like a short-sighted policy of the Israeli leadership - at least.
    At least the author does not understand what he is writing.
    If it had not been for the blockade, there would have been Iranian Tondar missiles Fateh Qader Shahab
    And air defense whatever be in the likeness of the TOP
  • yehat2
    yehat2 17 May 2021 10: 32
    +4
    Quote: For example
    Jews trade weapons all over the world.

    trade in itself is not reprehensible, besides, Israel needs resources for self-defense, and, for example, selling active protection kits for American tanks does not look particularly scary, BUT
    How is it that Israeli weapons are not only bought but also used in most recent conflicts? After all, it turns out that Israel does not care who to sell to and they support any development of the war. For example, drones for the Armed Forces of Ukraine, helping to fire or ATGMs of Azerbaijan or Georgia. But this will not be able to be perceived neutrally.
    It is one thing to sell, for example, to Finland, which does not plan to fight and simply strengthens its defense, and quite another to sell, for example, to Azerbaijan, which it will immediately use against its neighbor.
    this is already immoral.
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 17 May 2021 11: 05
      -1
      The topic is cloudy. The main supplier of weapons to Azerbaijan is Russia.
      1. yehat2
        yehat2 17 May 2021 11: 12
        +1
        And I'm not talking about one country, but about a whole chain of conflicts.
        It is difficult to find a more active participant in the supply of recent conflicts.
        I am not delighted with Russia's unconditional support for Armenia. In my opinion, the return of part of the seized territory back and the end of ethnic cleansing should have been made a prerequisite for military assistance, but this did not happen. As a result, it turned out to be a war.
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 17 May 2021 11: 14
          -1
          Armenia is in the CSTO, there was no aariks there not to support it
  • Kostadinov
    Kostadinov 17 May 2021 10: 33
    +4
    Is there an explanation for how so many missiles and / or a component to them got into Gaza? These are tens if not hundreds of tons of explosives, metal, engines, etc.
    All this is not easy to translate, it is clearly someone's criminal flaw.

    Among other things, Israel itself delivers a part of this explosives. If you drop 500 tons of explosives on Gaza and 20% of them did not explode, here's 100 tons of explosives for you. Enough for 10 thousand rocket runners, 10 kg each.
  • aszzz888
    aszzz888 17 May 2021 10: 50
    0
    ... more than 1,5 thousand rockets exploded. Several dozen of them were not intercepted by the Iron Dome missile defense systems
    kumpol died.
  • yfast
    yfast 17 May 2021 11: 01
    +1
    Quote: Shahno
    Tell me what this behavior is called when you expose your creditors for money ...
    Will they be able to buy them an island in the Pacific Ocean and relocate them?
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 17 May 2021 13: 40
      +2
      Quote: yfast
      Quote: Shahno
      Tell me what this behavior is called when you expose your creditors for money ...
      Will they be able to buy them an island in the Pacific Ocean and relocate them?

      They will fire at passing ships, poison fish and in every possible way draw the attention of the world community to the "Palestinian problem".
  • yehat2
    yehat2 17 May 2021 11: 07
    +1
    Quote: Santa Fe
    In the fight against these people by all means
    are good

    it is difficult to reproach me for my love for Israel.
    But what Hamas is doing with shelling is by no means worth supporting.
    Leaving the obvious immoral aspect aside, let's talk about goals.
    Indeed, in fact, in the end it will only make things worse for the Arab community, because Hamas actually looks like cannibals, and Israel has an excellent reason not only to justify hundreds of recent incidents of oppression of Arabs, but also to take revenge from the heart and further squeeze out territories and resources. And the strength of the army is quite enough to do it.
    It turns out that the shelling harms Palestine more than it helps.
    Any escalation of hatred harms ordinary citizens.
    There is not enough water in Palestine. Do you think she will get better or worse after these events?
  • GAndr
    GAndr 17 May 2021 11: 11
    0
    Quote: rotmistr60
    The American media are seriously arguing that the conflict was ignited by Russia and that the Jews are suffering from the shelling solely through its fault.

    Do not read American newspapers before eating ... in other matters, do not read after meals either;)
  • And Us Rat
    And Us Rat 17 May 2021 11: 22
    +2
    Some kind of defeatist fantasy. Unfortunately for the author, everything is much better than he would like. fellow
    In fact, Hamas was blown away, tonight at most a dozen missiles. Only empty threats. They are being ironed, but they can't even bite back properly.
    Hamas is over.
  • Shahno
    Shahno 17 May 2021 11: 45
    +4
    This is the whole, as they say, the essence of protests and the struggle for ...
    1. Maki Avellevich
      Maki Avellevich 17 May 2021 16: 26
      0
      he was recorded as a victim of Zionism
  • isv000
    isv000 17 May 2021 11: 54
    0
    Hamas lacks tactics - they shoot like firecrackers for the New Year. But if the same airbase were hit by three hundred Qassams at the same time, then the number of air raids could be reduced by resetting the litaki of Judas.
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 17 May 2021 13: 46
      0
      Judas, Mark, Matthew, Petra, Yeshuah and John in this case, you began to demolish Gaza squarely, first of all.
      Secondly, it is not enough to hit the base - it is necessary to destroy protected aircraft, which is beyond the power of not only the cashiers, but also the serial Iranian fajers used by the Palestinians.
      Secondly.
      Thirdly, there is not one base, there are several of them; the main Palestinian missiles simply do not reach.
      1. anykin
        anykin 18 May 2021 00: 14
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        Quote: isv000
        if the same airbase were hit by three hundred Qassams

        Quote: Krasnodar
        in this case, you began to demolish Gaza in squares

        Those. strikes on residential buildings is not a reason?
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 18 May 2021 05: 17
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          As you can see, not a reason request
    2. Maki Avellevich
      Maki Avellevich 17 May 2021 16: 45
      +1
      Quote: isv000
      AMAS lacks tactics - they shoot like firecrackers for the New Year. But if the same airbase were hit by three hundred Qassams at the same time, then the number of air raids could be reduced by resetting the litaki of Judas.

      my friend, your talent just disappears on the couch in a place with you.
      in the general staff of sheep-lovers just vacancies of theoretical analysts were opened.

      the Arab people will appreciate your general genius to the full.

      take the first flight to Cairo, from there on donkeys to the Egyptian border with the sector.
      then crawl through the tunnel under the border. (here it is necessary to be careful, the Jews are bombing them)
      udai to you!
  • Shahno
    Shahno 17 May 2021 11: 54
    +2
    Quote: Nikolaevich I
    Quote: Krasnodar
    It is much cheaper and easier to overload the canopy with quantity than with quality. ...

    Well. it's "comparative-relative"! The use of "traps" can also overload the air defense system with imitation of quantity! And what is the difficulty of filling the "pipe" of "Kassam" not with ammonal, but with strips of aluminum foil and insert the "wick" with different response times? request

    It won't do much good. Think for yourself about the principle of air defense, which was used in this conflict.
  • alexmach
    alexmach 17 May 2021 12: 02
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    It is not entirely clear who launches these missiles then? After all, all the Hamasites were buried by Jews in underground cities last week ... 160 sorties, 40 minutes, 80 tons of explosives, and so on.
  • Shahno
    Shahno 17 May 2021 12: 10
    +1
    Quote: Santa Fe
    Hamas is not targeting military targets, it is targeting areal targets

    In the fight against these people by all means
    are good

    Because of its distance and its backwardness, Hamas poses no threat to our country. But it copes well with our enemies

    Santa Fe is a crater on Mars or what?
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  • Shahno
    Shahno 17 May 2021 13: 01
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    Quote: Yrec
    At this rate, Hamas will knock out the entire BC "Iron Dome" and the advantage in losses and damage may begin to shift in the other direction. Actually, I think this is the main strategic task of Hamas. The launch of one anti-missile missile costs Israel several tens of thousands of dollars. Launching "Kasam" is at least ten times cheaper. After the Iron Dome is exhausted, Israel will have to ramp up its airstrikes and launch a ground operation. If Hamas took this into account and prepared itself, the damage to Israel may turn out to be unacceptable for it. And behind all this lies the lives of many people.

    You are definitely talking about Hamas. Not confused, maybe with Iran or Turkey. All the same, by the power of Israel, the leading state in the region, whoever says anything ...
  • Kushka
    Kushka 17 May 2021 13: 05
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    It happens that one people goes to another people with war and says bluntly: I want to destroy this people. Or: I want to rob these people to the bone. Or: I want to enslave this people.
    And, which is typical, all other peoples of the Earth know that in case of victory it will be so. And even somehow they don't really mind: well, if you win, then where to go, do as you want. What's already here, you won - the winners are not judged ...
    But suddenly once: and the one who started so cheerfully loses ... Well, at least like Hitler. But you never know other examples? Napoleon is the same ...
    Would it be fair that they would do to him the way he was going to do? Or does it not work in the opposite direction?
    Explain to me, I am a dark and ignorant person: four times the Arabs attacked Israel. With completely clear and precise intentions to destroy Israel, and the Jews - "to throw into the sea."
    They did not leave any options for the Jewish state. They united in a coalition that had every reason to consider itself stronger. Their combined army had significantly more soldiers, tanks, aircraft and everything else.
    But they lost. And crushingly. Israel could take Cairo and Damascus. He could completely occupy Jordan. He could do whatever he wanted with them. But he spared them.
    Moreover, after some time, he returned almost all the occupied territories, including the Sinai Peninsula with hotels and all infrastructure rebuilt during the occupation.
    What did the Arabs pay for the defeat? Contribution? Not! Territory? Not! They still insist that Israel return to the borders of 1947 or what a shaggy year there, etc. They still demand a Palestinian state for those Arabs for whom they wanted to destroy Israel altogether.
    Tell me, does it happen? In order not to bear any responsibility for the defeat at all, and moreover: to make oneself a victim?
    And why not fight like that: if you win, everything is for you. And if you lose, nothing. And more dough will be given from the belly every year. And so it has been for almost 50 years. That's for sure: to whom is the war, and to whom is their mother ...
    And they also say that the Jews are so smart-ass that they will fool around whoever you want. And here a multiple victory is simply pro ... rali also many times and are also known as aggressors.
    Wow - PR masters.
  • Shahno
    Shahno 17 May 2021 13: 36
    +1
    Quote: sot
    Hamas launched 3000 rockets. 400 fell on the heads of their own children. Another 1300 fell in fields and desert. Of the 1300 remaining, the iron dome intercepted 90% - that is, only 130 missiles out of 3000 were able to reach the target.

    The final efficiency of the Iron Dome is 96%.

    It actually has no analogues in the world. An extremely effective weapon!

    The day before yesterday I talked with a friend from Ashdod ... 124 missiles were fired at Ashdod, 20 fell on uninhabited areas, 4 caused damage in the city. Can you count?
    1. husband
      husband 17 May 2021 14: 01
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      4/124 = 97% effectiveness of missile defense. What I wrote about. Estimated numbers and methods allow you to predict the result with high accuracy.

      Thank you for confirming the effectiveness of the Iron Dome.
  • GAndr
    GAndr 17 May 2021 13: 38
    +2
    Quote: Professor
    Quote: GAndr
    Quote: Professor
    Well, it's like the Russian "blockade" of Georgia when all the other borders of Georgia are open. laughing

    Excuse me, but Georgy, what kind of country is this? If you deign to write in Russian, then write the name of the countries in the Russian transcription ...

    Are you talking about Tskhinvali, Sukhum, Moldova, Belarus and further down the list? Then George.

    According to the list in Russian transcription: Tskhinvali, Sukhum, Moldova, Belarus and ... Georgia.
    I do not quite understand your desire to distort the Russian-language spelling, is it an insult to the Russian language or an attempt to offend the Russian-speaking readers of this forum?
    Before trying to hurt someone like this, completely childishly, try everything on yourself. well, just so that you understand what I mean, I suggest to all Russian-speaking users of this forum - to call Jews not in the Russian manner, but in the manner of writing them in Latin - not Jews, but Zhidarius ... No, well, since there is no difference, what is the truth to be offended ?
  • Tagan
    Tagan 17 May 2021 13: 55
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    Quote: sot
    Hamas launched 3000 rockets. 400 fell on the heads of their own children. Another 1300 fell in fields and desert. Of the 1300 remaining, the iron dome intercepted 90% - that is, only 130 missiles out of 3000 were able to reach the target.

    The final efficiency of the Iron Dome is 96%.

    It actually has no analogues in the world. An extremely effective weapon!

    Extremely efficient versus extremely low-tech.
    1. husband
      husband 17 May 2021 14: 04
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      At the same time, the Iron Dome is the 4th level from the bottom of Israel's five-level missile defense system.
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