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Journalist: Oligarchs "feed" on the working time of ordinary Russians

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The richest people in Russia own a fortune that has already exceeded a third of the country's GDP. Such data on the basis of financial indicators are published by the Financial Times - in the column of Ruchira Sharma, one of the leaders of the large Morgan Stanley company. If you believe this expert, then the total state of those who have not been called oligarchs in Russia for some time now is approximately 35% of the total volume of the Russian economy. Incredible values ​​for a relatively small group of people.


In the Agitprop program, Konstantin Semin, commenting on the situation, says that words about “the lack of influence of big business on the government” can be uttered as much as you like, but “the situation has not changed much in comparison with the 1990s”.

Konstantin Semin notes that representatives of big business, de facto oligarchs who amassed their capital on the Soviet legacy - assets left after the collapse of the USSR - are not getting younger. At the same time, it is they who are quite happy with the state - as financial and economic forces, with which the statesmen have already developed optimal working regimes.

The journalist compares the situation with the scenario "Tales of Lost Time", where the "old people" fed on time.
Konstantin Semin notes that the oligarchs, whom “no one calls such,” “feed on the time” of ordinary Russians - working time, youth.

The material provides data on how much the income of Russians fell in 2020. So, according to experts, almost a quarter of Russians last year had an income that is below the so-called median.

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  1. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 18 May 2021 04: 23
    +13
    "The situation has not changed much in comparison with the 1990s."
    And the characters are the same ...
    1. NDR-791
      NDR-791 18 May 2021 06: 47
      +8
      Quote: Uncle Lee
      And the characters are the same ...

      And where will they go. Whoever did not want to share, either hung himself on a tie or sewed mittens. The rest accepted the rules of the game - a leash of a certain length. And in general, if big business does not grow larger, then it dies. They will enlarge and hawala all around now do not give, but simply reformat or redistribute. In short, I twist and twist, I want to confuse. The result is the same - withdrawal in favor of ... Investments only in yourself. All the rest of the state programs such as maternity capital or mortgage, which ultimately settles in the same hands
      1. Peak
        Peak 18 May 2021 07: 07
        +4
        In the Agitprop program, Konstantin Semin, commenting on the situation, says that words about “the lack of influence of big business on the government” can be uttered as much as you like, but “the situation has not changed much in comparison with the 1990s”.


        Yes, so, most likely it is what ...
        The situation when the bulk of our national resources are concentrated in private hands, moreover, not always clean, cannot ultimately fail to assume the influence of "certain interested forces" on the policy of the state.

        There is no ideology, there is no control over subsoil and other global resources, the money earned in Russia is not monitored - that's all for you ...
        1. NDR-791
          NDR-791 18 May 2021 07: 36
          0
          Ideology in the representation of socialist realism (as we used to perceive it), by and large, has nothing to do with it. There should be one ideology - Strong Russia, the rest is on its side. They tell us about this from every iron, but the components of this:
          there is no control over subsoil and other global resources, money earned in Russia is not tracked are still there in the early 90s
        2. aglet
          aglet 20 May 2021 09: 21
          +2
          "The situation when the bulk of our national resources are concentrated in private hands, moreover, not always clean"
          and not always ours
          1. Niko
            Niko 22 May 2021 22: 13
            0
            Quote: aglet
            "The situation when the bulk of our national resources are concentrated in private hands, moreover, not always clean"
            and not always ours

            "If someone is here and there." laughing
      2. Uncle lee
        Uncle lee 18 May 2021 07: 52
        +4
        Quote: NDR-791
        Investments only in yourself.

        And "Plato" will help them ...
    2. max702
      max702 18 May 2021 10: 06
      +7
      And I have a simple question, why does the ardent communist Semin have a family in the United States? They are like being held hostage there? And why does this character have an American university degree with honors and awards? Kik tick then?
      You folks have even looked at his biography on the wiki .. This is Trotsky of the 21st century with similar goals ..
      1. Intruder
        Intruder 18 May 2021 18: 51
        -2
        They are like being held hostage there? And why does this character have an American university degree with honors and awards? Kik tick then?
        And what, it is quite possible, and so, on the coast of Florida ... in an elite area near the beach, torture - the scorching Sun and lobsters! winked Well, what should he have finished, MGU or MGIMO !? Where to go for the offspring of poor migrants ... ??? lol
        1. max702
          max702 18 May 2021 21: 07
          +3
          Quote: Intruder
          They are like being held hostage there? And why does this character have an American university degree with honors and awards? Kik tick then?
          And what, it is quite possible, and so, on the coast of Florida ... in an elite area near the beach, torture - the scorching Sun and lobsters! winked Well, what should he have finished, MGU or MGIMO !? Where to go for the offspring of poor migrants ... ??? lol

          Duc yes it is, apparently ..
          In general, an extremely muddy character, and only a social circle
      2. DNS-a42
        DNS-a42 19 May 2021 10: 16
        +2
        Quote: max702
        And I have a simple question, why does the ardent communist Semin have a family in the United States?
        I believe that the former the wife decides for herself where to live.

        And why does this character have an American university degree with honors and awards? Kik tick then?
        Is foreign education a crime?

        Quote: max702
        People are you even in wiki looked at his biography .. This is Trotsky of the 21st century with similar goals ..
        Funny.
        1. max702
          max702 19 May 2021 10: 19
          +2
          Not funny, but sad .. the mill has just begun to live, and people like Semin are dragging her back to the slaughterhouse again .. At the same time, without risking anything .. At the expense of the former, a big question ..
          And yes, tell me at least one politician in the United States who graduated from a Russian university and now teaches how to live in the United States ..
          1. DNS-a42
            DNS-a42 19 May 2021 10: 28
            +1
            Quote: max702
            Not funny, but sad .. the mill has just begun to live, and people like Semin are dragging her back to the slaughterhouse again .. At the same time, without risking anything .. At the expense of the former, a big question ..
            Does Semin run our state?

            At the very least, he risks his well-being.

            Quote: max702
            And yes, tell me at least one politician in the United States who graduated from a Russian university and now teaches how to live in the United States.
            So he did not live in the United States as a politician, but as an employee of the All-Russian State Television and Radio Broadcasting Company.
            1. max702
              max702 19 May 2021 10: 34
              0
              Judging by the constant content in the media from Semin affects the minds of citizens and very much, the article on this site is a confirmation of this .. In our country, he does not risk anything and knows about it very well .. Here are his ideas for the same USA, it is unnatural, but support from them he gets .. I would not be surprised if they are recognized as a foreign agent .. Does it remind you of how he sways the boat of the events of the early twentieth century in Ingushetia? ...
              1. DNS-a42
                DNS-a42 19 May 2021 10: 49
                +2
                Quote: max702
                he gets support from them ..

                And what is this support?

                Does it remind you of how he wobbles the boat of the events of the early twentieth century in the Republic of Ingushetia? ...
                The situation in Russia itself reminds me of the events of the early XNUMXth century. The same social split.
                1. max702
                  max702 19 May 2021 11: 15
                  -3
                  Quote: DNS-a42
                  And what is this support?

                  Yes, even in the fact that his relatives are not expelled to Russia, it means that his activities in Russia are more than satisfied with the United States, although the revival of communism in the Russian Federation seems to be (officially) not desirable for the United States .. And we will most likely soon find out about the financing of Semin too ..
                  The situation in Russia itself reminds me of the events of the early XNUMXth century. The same social split.
                  So ask in whose interests and at whose expense this happened at the beginning of the XNUMXth century in the Republic of Ingushetia ..
                  Both the goals and objectives and the characters are absolutely the same ..
                  1. DNS-a42
                    DNS-a42 19 May 2021 11: 38
                    +4
                    Quote: max702
                    Even the fact that his loved ones are not expelled to Russia means that his activities in Russia are more than satisfied with the United States, although the revival of communism in the Russian Federation seems to be (officially) not desirable for the United States .. And we will most likely soon find out about the financing of Semin. ...
                    While this is sheer speculation.

                    So ask in whose interests and at whose expense this happened at the beginning of the XNUMXth century in the Republic of Ingushetia ..
                    It is known that the main "sponsors" of the revolution are the tsar and his entourage.

                    Both the goals and objectives and the characters are absolutely the same ..
                    Is the US task to establish Soviet power in Russia? What for?
                    1. max702
                      max702 19 May 2021 11: 39
                      -2
                      Quote: DNS-a42
                      It is known that the main "sponsors" of the revolution are the tsar and his entourage.

                      Well, if you think so, I have no questions ..
      3. Niko
        Niko 22 May 2021 22: 16
        0
        Quote: max702
        And I have a simple question, why does the ardent communist Semin have a family in the United States? They are like being held hostage there? And why does this character have an American university degree with honors and awards? Kik tick then?
        You folks have even looked at his biography on the wiki .. This is Trotsky of the 21st century with similar goals ..

        This of course completely changes the essence of the question.
  2. Far B
    Far B 18 May 2021 05: 20
    +15
    The material provides data on how much the income of Russians fell in 2020
    But Rosstat magically found out that the number of poor people in the country decreased last year. Who said that there are no miracles ?! We, damn it, literally live in a fairy tale - here miracles are everywhere!
    1. NDR-791
      NDR-791 18 May 2021 06: 50
      +8
      Quote: Dalny V
      We, damn it, literally live in a fairy tale - here miracles are everywhere!

      We live in Russia, and since the times of Tsar Pea, Emelya, Koshchei the Immortal and Developed Socialism, there has been a continuous fairy tale around us. It's time to get used to wassat
    2. Van 16
      Van 16 18 May 2021 07: 13
      +10
      "we literally live in a fairy tale"

      Well yes. And the further, the more terrible.
    3. IS-80_RVGK2
      IS-80_RVGK2 18 May 2021 07: 35
      +8
      Quote: Dalny V
      году
      But Rosstat magically found out that the number of poor people in the country decreased last year. Who said that there are no miracles ?!

      Sleight of hand and no cheating. We change the calculation method and the poor turn into rich.
      1. Far B
        Far B 18 May 2021 07: 42
        +11
        In the sense - we call those who receive 17 thousand the middle class, and voila? Yes, I know one such magician))) However, everyone knows him
      2. Intruder
        Intruder 18 May 2021 18: 53
        0
        We change the calculation method and the poor turn into rich.
        from permutation, because the amount does not change !? fellow
  3. Keyser soze
    Keyser soze 18 May 2021 07: 03
    -7
    Now the forum communists will come and blame the predatory grin of capitalism and feel better ... bully

    They are all the same nice people and idealists and do not want to see that the entire oligarchy (and here, too, not only in Russia) are former communists, Komsomol members, KGB members or their children. So capitalism has nothing to do with it. He has not yet seen the sun in you ...
    1. IS-80_RVGK2
      IS-80_RVGK2 18 May 2021 07: 28
      +18
      Hello naive Bulgarian capitalist adherent. laughing Even if these people were communists, now they are the hardest capitalists who will strangle you for a penny. And capitalism has a lot to do with it. And what you think is important is tinsel, nonsense and dust. The important thing is that the means of production are in the hands of the capitalist, the power in the state is in the hands of capital, and in the economy the fundamental law of capitalism rules.
      1. Keyser soze
        Keyser soze 18 May 2021 07: 38
        -4
        The important thing is that the means of production are in the hands of the capitalist, the power in the state is in the hands of capital.


        And hello to you, naive Komsomol member :) The fact is that your idols have done well, to the fullest - at first they have lost socialism, then they have shown their inability to build normal, Scandinavian capitalism, in which the Gini index (inequality index) does not go off scale into space.

        Former communists, Komsomol members and KGB members can only greedily steal, but building profitable enterprises and bringing benefits to society is not theirs. This I see with my own eyes, in my state. And now it turns out that the society that gave birth to them has nothing at all to do with them, and they are wrong and in general capitalism is to blame. laughing
        1. IS-80_RVGK2
          IS-80_RVGK2 18 May 2021 08: 09
          +13
          Quote: Keyser Soze
          The fact is that your idols are done

          I have no idols.
          Quote: Keyser Soze
          first lost socialism

          Do you understand socialism had to be defended and developed by all of us. If you are waiting for someone to do it for you, then you have to disappoint you, socialism in this case will never come. Exactly like all other socio-economic formations before him.
          Quote: Keyser Soze
          Scandinavian capitalism, in which the Gini index (inequality index) does not go off scale into space.

          I wonder why, if Scandinavian capitalism is so good in the same USA, it somehow didn’t happen? But this is the most economically strong, advanced in many areas of the economy, capitalist country at the moment. And in many places it has not happened yet.
          Quote: Keyser Soze
          And now it turns out that the society that gave birth to them has nothing at all to do with them, and they are wrong and in general capitalism is to blame.

          Do you have any doubts about this logic of yours? Communism postulating at least at the first stage - "to each according to his work" and abolishing the exploitation of man by man, do you really think that such a system gives rise to capitalist predators? And the type of capitalism, which has nothing to do with everything on the contrary? Or do you naively think that capitalism in Western Europe covered its face with this mask of pseudo-socialism immediately upon its appearance? In principle, I understand you. This is such a mechanism of psychological self-defense. I really want to believe in correct capitalism when you are relatively well settled in it. Only once a harsh reality comes and kicks you out into the cold from the world of your naive dreams. And this time is not far off.
          1. Devyatomayets
            Devyatomayets 18 May 2021 09: 36
            -6
            Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
            Communism postulating at least at the first stage - "to each according to his work" and abolishing exploitation


            Abolishing exploitation, but introducing special distributors and a currency parallel to the ruble, available to the elite, so that the nomenklatura master-talker could show off without interfering with the working slaves?


            1. IS-80_RVGK2
              IS-80_RVGK2 18 May 2021 11: 13
              +8
              Come on by. I don’t give it to the guards.
        2. Normal
          Normal 18 May 2021 08: 20
          +4
          Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
          Hello naive Bulgarian capitalist adherent.

          Quote: Keyser Soze
          And hello to you, naive Komsomolets :)

          Hello to both of you, adherents of the mythologized past and popularized, but outdated, present at the point of death.
          Look to the future.
          There is neither capitalism nor socialism, there is the reincarnation of feudalism with a new form of slavery.
          Alternative?
          Anarchy at its best.
          Economic model - Wörgl
          1. IS-80_RVGK2
            IS-80_RVGK2 18 May 2021 11: 24
            +3
            Give me your naive and sometimes stupid thoughts, you will not ascribe? I am not idealizing the past. I perfectly remember the negative that was then. But I remember, unlike any quasi-libers, not only one negative.
            Quote: Normal
            Anarchy at its best.

            To be an anarchist in the 21st century means to sign in fact for your stupidity and illiteracy. No offense, that's my opinion.
            1. Normal
              Normal 18 May 2021 12: 32
              +1
              Well, what grudges?
              Just chagrin from the fact that he ran into a boor. In this tone, communicate with others like you.
              Come on, goodbye.
              1. IS-80_RVGK2
                IS-80_RVGK2 18 May 2021 14: 35
                +3
                And you don't have to be ill. Your attempts to pretend to be humiliated and insulted look funny. The standard move of a dim-witted demagogue whose tail was pinched. laughing
                1. Normal
                  Normal 18 May 2021 14: 40
                  -1
                  Neither humiliate nor insult me, you do not have enough mental ability.
                  Keep on fantasizing.
                  To ignore.
      2. My doctor
        My doctor 18 May 2021 17: 40
        -2
        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
        Even if these people were communists, now they are the hardest capitalists who will strangle you for a penny.

        In principle, they cannot be capitalists, let alone according to liberal laws, even according to libertarian principles. Since in them the legitimacy of acquiring advantages is at the forefront.
        1. IS-80_RVGK2
          IS-80_RVGK2 18 May 2021 18: 43
          +5
          They are capitalists by right of ownership of the means of production. And the libertarian nonsense on this issue is not interesting to me.
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 19 May 2021 17: 25
            -3
            The means of production are owned by those who buy them for work, both for themselves and for hired workers, this applies to all means from the saw to the processing centers.
    2. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 18 May 2021 08: 03
      +9
      Quote: Keyser Soze
      the whole oligarchy (and we, too - not only in Russia)

      It turns out to blame, human nature, under capitalism, greed, avarice, arrogance, callousness - crawled out with terrible force. Under socialism, these qualities were not emphasized and condemned by society ...
    3. populist
      populist 18 May 2021 09: 14
      +10
      Quote: Keyser Soze
      that the entire oligarchy (and we, too, not only in Russia) are former communists, Komsomol members,

      In their inner essence, they have never been communists and Komsomol members. These people joined the party and the Komsomol for personal gain. They have always had a predatory personal orientation (mentality).
    4. Intruder
      Intruder 18 May 2021 18: 55
      +3
      these are former communists, Komsomol members, KGBists or their children.
      and all dear citizens of Russia, imagine what a respected upper class of society we have !? Straight ..., the pride of the Federation !!! yes
  4. Yun Klob
    Yun Klob 18 May 2021 07: 16
    -9
    Select and divide. It was already.
    1. IS-80_RVGK2
      IS-80_RVGK2 18 May 2021 07: 32
      +10
      Not tired of talking nonsense?
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 18 May 2021 17: 17
        -2
        Such nonsense is now offered by people like Syomin and others like that, remove the pseudo-communists - the main thing is to take it away and put it in the right pocket with someone else's hands and not bear any risks at the same time - the "Bloggers educators"
        1. IS-80_RVGK2
          IS-80_RVGK2 18 May 2021 18: 47
          +3
          Semin never suggested that. And so yes, your claims to the fashionable metropolitan get-together of left-wing bloggers, monetizers, are to some extent fully justified.
    2. paul3390
      paul3390 18 May 2021 11: 45
      +14
      Since when did the return of the stolen thing become called weaning ?? Our alligators that - all their factories-factories-mines-wells on hard-earned hard earned or what?
  5. nikvic46
    nikvic46 18 May 2021 07: 53
    +5
    Some say that it is necessary to carry out nationalization. State property is only the foundation of a welfare state. But we need to build further. Belarus is an example of state. property, but they lost sight of the superstructure. And young people, or rather a significant part of young people, are no different from Russian ones. Whoever beckons with beautiful words, they will follow. Lack of public knowledge is the reason for this behavior. Recently I read the wonderful words of Schopenhauer - "Religions are like fireflies. In order to shine, they need darkness."
    1. your1970
      your1970 18 May 2021 17: 39
      +2
      Quote: nikvic46
      Some say nationalization should be carried out. State property is only the foundation of the welfare state.

      The trouble is that for nationalized enterprises, you will have to create a plan. Otherwise, they do such a trick that the current angels seem ...
      And having created the plans, we will give rise to an official dividing the funds ...
      It was already in the USSR ... And there will be "pushers" ... Only the current officials will not have enough chocolate and lamb ...
  6. Normal
    Normal 18 May 2021 08: 12
    +4
    If you believe this expert, then the total state of those who have not been called oligarchs in Russia for some time now is approximately 35% of the total volume of the Russian economy.

    Well. They have something to strive for, there is room to grow - only about 35%
    Another 65% are not mastered. They are faced with ambitious goals, new challenges and ambitious plans.
  7. Esaul
    Esaul 18 May 2021 09: 28
    +5
    according to experts, almost a quarter of Russians last year had an income that is below the so-called median

    Attention, and now the question is what kind of experts are those who do not know what the median income is.
    And this is such an income, below and above which is equal to 50% of the population.
    Therefore, a quarter of the population by no means can have an income below the median.
    The level of the current Internet "xsperds" is simply amazing.
  8. Devyatomayets
    Devyatomayets 18 May 2021 09: 29
    0
    American resident Mr. Semen was clearly so afraid of capitalism about the oligarchs that he took his family to the decaying United States and hurried to give birth to a child there, providing him with a Stars and Stripes passport. wassat
  9. Nitarius
    Nitarius 18 May 2021 11: 37
    0
    WELL, Semin .. still that HEAVY! found what to look up to!
    1. paul3390
      paul3390 18 May 2021 11: 47
      +4
      Whatever one may say, it cannot be compared with the sun-faced one in terms of quality and quantity of idle chatter.
      1. Ratmir_Ryazan
        Ratmir_Ryazan 18 May 2021 23: 32
        -3
        Putin returned the assets of Rosneft, Gazprom, Aeroflot, Bashneft and a bunch of other companies to the state !!!

        Under Putin, the country paid off its debts, accumulated reserves of $ 600 billion, this is the proceeds for a full 4 years from the country's oil sales. That is, under Putin, not all gobbled up and went into debt as in the 90s and 80s, but created a reserve !!!

        Under Putin, the country builds cars, ships and planes, sells food abroad, and before Putin everything lay in ruins, and the West sent humanitarian aid to Russia as a mockery in the 90s !!!

        What kind of troll do you open your mouth with?

        Can you voice your merits that give you the right to insult Putin so publicly?
  10. vavilon
    vavilon 18 May 2021 16: 48
    +8
    This is the situation not only in Russia but throughout the liberal world where a person is a biomaterial for earning capital
    And Slavery has not gone anywhere, this is a new form of slavery.
    1. Ratmir_Ryazan
      Ratmir_Ryazan 18 May 2021 23: 26
      -7
      This is the situation not only in Russia but throughout the liberal world where a person is a biomaterial for earning capital
      And Slavery has not gone anywhere, this is a new form of slavery.


      Do not carry nonsense !!!

      Calculate the cost of state-owned companies in the country, starting with Rosneft and Gazprom, and it turns out that their cost is several times higher than GDP. So what?

      Semin is talking nonsense, comparing the capital of individuals with GDP.

      GDP is the value of goods and services produced in one year by the entire country, and capital is the value of all assets or shares in them.

      In the USSR, all enterprises were state-owned, there were no private owners, and the citizens of the country were wiping their asses with a newspaper.

      Semin seems to want to bring back those times.
      1. vavilon
        vavilon 19 May 2021 11: 37
        +1
        What nonsense are you talking about, dear? the fact that the oligarchy uses human resources to earn their capital?
        The bulk of workers who work for a private trader officially have scanty minimum wages with an additional payment of black cash in an envelope And then retiring liberalism for the second time uses this human mass for its own purposes, taking people to the streets against the government, they say, pensions are very small
        I see the Russian oligarchy will not stop looking askance at state assets, comparing them with their own, some insignificant handful wants to compare themselves with the whole state and is still eager to influence its politics and economy, first you need to figure out where they got the assets they own, the root their origin and then draw conclusions.

        And about toilet paper, I'll tell you this:
        "It's better to live without toilet paper and shit than with toilet paper and shit."

        And in general, I am a supporter of the revision of the privatization of 90 and the introduction of the gold standard of which all modern liberalism is so afraid
        1. Ratmir_Ryazan
          Ratmir_Ryazan 19 May 2021 14: 27
          -6
          Stop using the word "oligarch" out of place. An oligarch is a very rich person who influences politics, in Russia there is not a single one like that.

          An entrepreneur using hired workers first invested his capital to create some kind of business, and these are jobs and taxes !!! And of course, first of all, he risked his resources, and secondly, he wants to earn money in order to expand the business, which will give more jobs and even more taxes.

          I would also revise a lot of things in the history of the country, I would cancel a bunch of events, but history has developed as it has developed and now you will not revise the results of privatization in any way, since it was carried out according to the laws that were in force at that time, and the president was elected by the people.

          If you are better off living without toilet paper, without food in content and within walking distance, without cars and without apartments, then you should return to the USSR or today's North Korea, where there was much more shit than now.

          Executions of workers in Novocherkassk in 1962, who were outraged by the rise in food prices, have not forgotten?

          This happened a year after Gagarin's flight into space.

          Is this successful government in your opinion?

          In Canada, before the war in the 40s, the population watched ice hockey championships on TV.

          Do you have any idea how much the planned economy has thrown our country back and what poverty and despair has brought people ?! And then the country before the split.

          But yes, there were no oligarchs and just rich people.
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 19 May 2021 17: 21
            -4
            The first toilet paper in the USSR began to be made in 1969 - for comparison, the first ATM was made in the West in 1967, we have them only in the 90s.
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          3. vavilon
            vavilon 20 May 2021 14: 20
            -1
            There are plenty of oligarchs in Russia
            And of course, they do not have the same influence on political life as they would like, but they have
            But what is the difference between our oligarchs and the Western ones: in the West oligarchs got rich from generation to generation and the process of their development took whole centuries, while we have some 20-30 years old, and this suggests that our oligarchs are ordinary thieves who used the riot of the liberal monarchy and without law in the 90s
            I am not against small or medium-sized businesses, but all natural resources and strategic enterprises should be located and work for the country's budget and not in the pocket of a bunch of oligarchs
            Regarding apartments and cars, I want to remind you that in Soviet times I did not see a single homeless person, but now in Russia there are a lot of people who live on the streets, and cars, you do not compare today's technologies with the technologies of the Soviet seventies, you compare the automotive technologies of the seventies of Europe and the Soviet seventies, and I want you will notice that the first car with a plastic bumper was released in the USSR in 1981 on a VAZ 2108 and this car was an overwhelming success in Europe
            and plastic bumpers are successfully used to this day on all cars
            And at the expense of food in the Soviet
            era (not during Gorbachev's perestroika, namely in the USSR during the 60-70s and the beginning of the 80s) there were never any problems, and the quality of today's (abundance) of questionable quality and not to stand next to,
            And regarding the shooting of workers in Novocherkassk, this is a drop in the ocean compared to how many people disappeared in interethnic conflicts from hunger and cold after the collapse of the alliance, and they continue to go to this day, and I see that you do not care
            And your example of TV I want to assure you my dear, even today in the so-called developed countries, not everyone can afford a TV
            And there is no need to cite North Korea as an example, I can cite China as an example with the same pleasure.
            And what you should always chase after someone!))
  11. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 18 May 2021 17: 04
    +7
    The situation is also rubbish from the fact that these nouveau riches are distributing assets to industries under pain of sanctions. Energy, metallurgy ... The impression (judging by the supplies to GB) is that gold is mined in Russia not for our country.
    Time passes and the point of "no return" is passed. Non-return by legal means.
  12. Vadim237
    Vadim237 18 May 2021 17: 10
    +1
    At Semin, as always, everything is in a heap and at the end of the next schizobred about the war.
  13. Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 18 May 2021 23: 14
    -4
    Silly manipulation.

    Rich people in Russia own stakes in large companies such as Lukoil, NLMK, MMK, Norilsk Nickel, Mechel, etc. and the stocks of these companies rally as commodity prices rise. Their capital is not cash or bank accounts, but the value of shares - of enterprises in Russia. Stocks go up, their fortunes go up, stocks go down, and their fortunes go down too. Only in its natural form, nothing has changed.

    Today, anyone can buy shares for investment or speculative purposes and make money on it.

    And GDP is based on the country's simple annual earnings. This is the cost of all goods and services that we have produced and sold throughout the country in one year.

    The cost of capital and the country's GDP are two different things.

    Why compare wet to cold?

    Just to once again increase discontent in society, and from scratch ?!

    Yes, this is exactly what this journalist Semin is trying to achieve.
  14. anclevalico
    anclevalico 20 May 2021 08: 01
    0
    Semin is still an authority. With the oligarchs, everything has been clear for a long time. They are inseparable from power. Therefore, one can immediately speak not about oligarchs, but about power in the country. Why be shy?
  15. DEDUCHKA
    DEDUCHKA 2 June 2021 21: 19
    0
    The peaceful way to change the government is through elections. But here - Ellochka and 3-day elections, the "edrosov" cannot be defeated here. Only when the patience of the people bursts. And his government feeds with handouts, such as help in front of the school 10 tr. for a child, or cashback for a holiday camp for parents. Wouldn't it be better to just increase the salary so as not to pay these handouts? No, then the Yedrosov's concern for the people, whose welfare has been falling for the 6th year in a row, will not be visible. Plus extinction in recent years at an accelerated pace. The situation is ah, and the president is unable to fix it. They changed the Constitution, but the external administration in internal affairs remained. Liberators are still jubilant.
  16. Erik
    Erik 19 June 2021 23: 24
    -1
    Quote: NDR-791
    Ideology in the representation of socialist realism (as we used to perceive it), by and large, has nothing to do with it. There should be one ideology - Strong Russia, the rest is on its side. They tell us about this from every iron, but the components of this:
    there is no control over subsoil and other global resources, money earned in Russia is not tracked are still there in the early 90s

    Oga, ain folk, ain reich, ain fuhrer !? What you propose presupposes the emergence of real fascism itself. Strong Russia ... For whom is it strong? You were all chewed over 100 years ago, and you all believe in unicorns ...
  17. Erik
    Erik 19 June 2021 23: 25
    -1
    Quote: DEDUCHKA
    The peaceful way to change the government is through elections. But here - Ellochka and 3-day elections, the "edrosov" cannot be defeated here. Only when the patience of the people bursts. And his government feeds with handouts, such as help in front of the school 10 tr. for a child, or cashback for a holiday camp for parents. Wouldn't it be better to just increase the salary so as not to pay these handouts? No, then the Yedrosov's concern for the people, whose welfare has been falling for the 6th year in a row, will not be visible. Plus extinction in recent years at an accelerated pace. The situation is ah, and the president is unable to fix it. They changed the Constitution, but the external administration in internal affairs remained. Liberators are still jubilant.

    What is the external management? What are you talking about?
  18. Erik
    Erik 19 June 2021 23: 31
    -1
    Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
    Stop using the word "oligarch" out of place. An oligarch is a very rich person who influences politics, in Russia there is not a single one like that.

    An entrepreneur using hired workers first invested his capital to create some kind of business, and these are jobs and taxes !!! And of course, first of all, he risked his resources, and secondly, he wants to earn money in order to expand the business, which will give more jobs and even more taxes.

    I would also revise a lot of things in the history of the country, I would cancel a bunch of events, but history has developed as it has developed and now you will not revise the results of privatization in any way, since it was carried out according to the laws that were in force at that time, and the president was elected by the people.

    If you are better off living without toilet paper, without food in content and within walking distance, without cars and without apartments, then you should return to the USSR or today's North Korea, where there was much more shit than now.

    Executions of workers in Novocherkassk in 1962, who were outraged by the rise in food prices, have not forgotten?

    This happened a year after Gagarin's flight into space.

    Is this successful government in your opinion?

    In Canada, before the war in the 40s, the population watched ice hockey championships on TV.

    Do you have any idea how much the planned economy has thrown our country back and what poverty and despair has brought people ?! And then the country before the split.

    But yes, there were no oligarchs and just rich people.

    Uuu ... She, well, that is, let's say, the oil industry pushes fuel abroad, here the salary pays in rubles. The ruble is depreciating against the dollar. There is really no production of its own. Prices are rising. But the firm's profit is in dollars. In order for somewhere to arrive, it is necessary for somewhere to disappear. And it decreases in the pockets of ordinary citizens, on a regular basis. It got to the funny, why steal money with gray schemes? When you can carry directly from the budget, right? And the pandemic will help here. "Give money to the poor" (C) Business
    And the number of billions of "non-oligarchs" is growing.
  19. Erik
    Erik 19 June 2021 23: 34
    -1
    Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
    Putin returned the assets of Rosneft, Gazprom, Aeroflot, Bashneft and a bunch of other companies to the state !!!

    Under Putin, the country paid off its debts, accumulated reserves of $ 600 billion, this is the proceeds for a full 4 years from the country's oil sales. That is, under Putin, not all gobbled up and went into debt as in the 90s and 80s, but created a reserve !!!

    Under Putin, the country builds cars, ships and planes, sells food abroad, and before Putin everything lay in ruins, and the West sent humanitarian aid to Russia as a mockery in the 90s !!!

    What kind of troll do you open your mouth with?

    Can you voice your merits that give you the right to insult Putin so publicly?

    Oooh, and here are the adherents of the "cultural revolution in the Russian way" arrived!
  20. Erik
    Erik 19 June 2021 23: 35
    -1
    Quote: Yoon Clob
    Select and divide. It was already.

    How do you like it? On selected and divided?