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Spanish press: Due to pressure from the White House, Spain had to spend 4 billion euros on the war in Afghanistan

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The US State Department proposed using the Spanish military in operations in Afghanistan without prior approval from Madrid. This is a gross violation of Spanish law, in particular, contrary to the National Defense Law.


This is reported by the Spanish newspaper Publico, citing declassified documents.

The fact is that our mission there did not provide for any offensive actions, except in the case of self-defense, and the Americans did not like this self-restraint of Spain.

- the former deputy of the Spanish Congress Gaspar Llamazares explained this demand of the United States.

Washington also demanded that the government of this not the richest European country increase mission spending. Due to pressure from the White House, Spain had to spend 4 billion euros on the war in Afghanistan. According to the Spanish press, this inglorious campaign "left more questions than answers."

The then current administration of George W. Bush explained its exorbitant demands as "the global war on terrorism."

For Spain, this war finally ended the day before yesterday, May 13, when its last soldier left Afghanistan. It lasted for about 20 years and claimed the lives of 102 citizens of the country.
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  1. Blacksmith 55
    Blacksmith 55 15 May 2021 11: 15
    +5
    You can and should learn from mistakes. Maybe next time they won't obey.
    Though the memory is short. All the more so if they again put pressure on from the Fashington Regional Committee.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 15 May 2021 11: 26
      +5
      Quote: Blacksmith 55
      You can and should learn from mistakes. Maybe next time they won't obey.

      It is good if they study, but as a rule, other rulers come, and everything starts over again. There will always be "people" who, for a certain amount, will betray the interests of their country. I remember from history that this was practiced in ancient Rome.
      1. Egoza
        Egoza 15 May 2021 12: 03
        +2
        Quote: tihonmarine
        There will always be "people" who, for a certain amount, will betray the interests of their country. I remember from history that this was practiced in ancient Rome.

        You don't have to go that far. Modern Ukraine and its "supporters" are a vivid example of this.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 15 May 2021 12: 35
          0
          Quote: Egoza
          Modern Ukraine and its "supporters" are a vivid example of this.

          In history, this is not an example, but rather an exception, or perversion.
    2. NIKN
      NIKN 15 May 2021 11: 27
      +5
      We spend more on overhaul on receipts. So it doesn't matter. laughing
    3. knn54
      knn54 15 May 2021 11: 59
      +2
      Strange - the presence of Spanish soldiers and officers in Afghanistan was sanctioned by the Congress of Deputies on December 18, 2014
      1. Sarboz
        Sarboz 15 May 2021 14: 48
        0
        Quote: knn54
        Strange - the presence of Spanish soldiers and officers in Afghanistan was sanctioned by the Congress of Deputies on December 18, 2014

        Honestly, I don't understand at all what you mean. It seems to me that in 2014 their final conclusion was approved in Spain.
        I followed the actions of the Spanish ISAF contingent a little, since I myself fought in the province that was allocated to them. They have been in Afghanistan from 2002 to 2015, it seems, for about 13 years. As far as I know, they did not take part in the hostilities. They built a large base for 1500 people in Kalayi-Nau, led columns to supply their units, generally fed and guarded themselves in Herat and Badgis. Well, plus the outposts on the Lithium highway from Kalayi-Nau to Balamurgab. The main combat losses during the detonation of their vaunted Iveco armored vehicles, during the shelling of the columns. If we take by the number of victims, then most of them they lost in the crash of an airplane that was carrying demobels to Madrid. I don't remember what year the crash happened. But in all, a little over a hundred people died during the entire mission, more than 60 of them when that plane crashed.
    4. Finches
      Finches 15 May 2021 12: 08
      +1
      When society has no color differentiation of pants, then there is no purpose! laughing
    5. RealPilot
      RealPilot 15 May 2021 12: 29
      +1
      And this is one of the reasons why not a single American president really wanted to leave.
      Calculations, reasoning, and summing up immediately began. It is politically unprofitable, it is better and more convenient to shift to the next "people's choice", preferably from another party.

      Which is what Trump did. He initiated negotiations and an agreement with the Taliban, announced the withdrawal of troops. And now the new administration will collect all the stones associated with long-term politics ...
      And listen to claims from coalition partners, accusations of human rights violations and other hard-hitting attacks.
      1. wt100
        wt100 15 May 2021 13: 36
        +2
        Yes, how would Trump go for a second term and even declare that he won the election. So he was ready to answer ...
  2. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 15 May 2021 11: 20
    +2
    For 20 years, only 4 billion euros? Americans, in all their glory! Let them say thank you that they did not drive the bearded ahead of themselves. They seem to be quite emotional, only now it has come!
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 15 May 2021 11: 28
      +5
      Quote: tralflot1832
      In 20 years, only 4 billion euros? Americans, in all their glory!

      "Anglo-Saxons love to eat other people's delicious pies for free." This is their filthy being.
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 15 May 2021 11: 30
        +1
        It's good that the Spaniards don't blather too much in our direction, or maybe they missed that!
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 15 May 2021 12: 39
          0
          Quote: tralflot1832
          It's good that the Spaniards don't blather too much in our direction, or maybe they missed that!

          They have no time for this now, they have graters with Barcelona there.
  3. Poetry
    Poetry 15 May 2021 11: 24
    +2
    If the owner orders, they will again run where they indicate. They will rip so that the sandals will smoke. Then, after 20 years, it will be sluggish to be indignant.
  4. parusnik
    parusnik 15 May 2021 11: 25
    +3
    For Spain, this war finally ended the day before yesterday, May 13, when its last soldier left Afghanistan. It lasted for about 20 years and claimed the lives of 102 citizens of the country.
    Have you destroyed the Taliban, established democracy? Have spent 4 lard euros in 20 years ... And there is no exhaust ...
    Washington also demanded that the government of this not the richest European country increase mission spending.
    For the dear friend and earring from the ear.
  5. prior
    prior 15 May 2021 11: 30
    +1
    Well, the Americans aren't just "using" the Spaniards.
    Likewise, they use everyone, and some (country 404) even like it.
    And for whose interests should NATO soldiers fight and die today ?!
    Well, not for their own, national.
    The overseas owner said to paradise - it means to paradise.
    1. Alexander 3
      Alexander 3 15 May 2021 12: 14
      +1
      In general, it is not clear what Spain should do in NATO? Is someone attacking them? Someone is threatening?
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 15 May 2021 12: 18
        +1
        Countries, North African coast laughing
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 15 May 2021 12: 42
        +1
        Quote: Alexander 3
        Someone is threatening?

        Yes, it seems, except for France and Portugal, no one is around and there is, well, if only the Moroccans come to Algeciros to drink beer.
  6. TerraSandera
    TerraSandera 15 May 2021 11: 35
    +2
    The picture in the title says it all. Well, almost everything. It is difficult to win when some peaceful uncle on a donkey can get an RPG and leave a burning skeleton from well-armed and seemingly protected soldiers on a Humvee or other similar technique.
  7. xorek
    xorek 15 May 2021 11: 35
    +5
    Due to pressure from the White House, Spain had to spend 4 billion euros on the war in Afghanistan

    The Spaniards are not so sickly. wink But it is interesting that Georgia and Ukraine have spent how much or, on the contrary, earned? They say they dragged everything that was bad .. wassat
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 15 May 2021 11: 40
      +3
      xorek
      Today, 11: 35
      NEW
      +1
      Due to pressure from the White House, Spain had to spend 4 billion euros on the war in Afghanistan

      The Spaniards are not so sickly. wink. But I wonder how much did Georgia and Ukraine spend or, on the contrary, earned? They say they dragged everything that was bad .. wassat
      So it's not for nothing that the people say - "To whom the war, and to whom the mother is dear."
      1. xorek
        xorek 15 May 2021 11: 45
        +3
        Quote: aszzz888
        So it's not for nothing that the people say - "To whom the war, and to whom the mother is dear."

        That's right Sheriff! And this is not my invention, as American officers spoke about the Georgian and Ukrainian contingent in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc.
        Lazy and thieving and drag everything ..
        1. aszzz888
          aszzz888 15 May 2021 11: 47
          +1

          0
          Quote: aszzz888
          So it's not for nothing that the people say - "To whom the war, and to whom the mother is dear."

          That's right Sheriff! And this is not my invention, as American officers spoke about the Georgian and Ukrainian contingent in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc.
          Lazy and thieving and dragging everything ..
          For once, the Merikatos told the truth! wink Hi, hi !
          1. xorek
            xorek 15 May 2021 12: 56
            +1
            Quote: aszzz888
            For once, the Merikatos told the truth! Hello,

            Good afternoon colleague! This infa slipped through a long time ago and was immediately extinguished and the officers were clearly punished ..
            As punishers and marauders, they are in their place in such situations. hi
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 15 May 2021 12: 21
      0
      Quote: xorek
      But I wonder how much did Georgia and Ukraine spend or, on the contrary, earned? They say they dragged everything that lies badly

      Well, if their "heroes" are being dragged from Donbass, then already from Afgan they were dragged above the possibilities.
  8. aszzz888
    aszzz888 15 May 2021 11: 38
    +2
    explained such a requirement of the United States former Deputy of the Spanish Congress Gaspar Llamazares.
    I highlighted the key word. laughing On these "exes" the inspiration comes when they dump into retirement! laughing
    1. xorek
      xorek 15 May 2021 11: 50
      +2
      Quote: aszzz888
      explained such a requirement of the United States former Deputy of the Spanish Congress Gaspar Llamazares.
      I highlighted the key word. laughing On these "exes" the inspiration comes when they dump into retirement! laughing

      good To the point, as soon as they become exes, they have a direct insight in their heads.
      And here in Russia, it's the other way around .. Gorbach, Kravchuk and other riffraffs are becoming even angrier when they revile everyone and everything ..
  9. iouris
    iouris 15 May 2021 11: 41
    +1
    The "National Defense of Spain" is now near Novgorod, now already in Afghanistan. And this is a "free democratic country". Oh yes, there is jamon and a warm sea.
    1. xorek
      xorek 15 May 2021 11: 48
      +2
      Quote: iouris
      The "National Defense of Spain" is now near Novgorod, now already in Afghanistan. And this is a "free democratic country". Oh yes, there is jamon and a warm sea.

      Their "blue division" during the Second World War also "distinguished itself" in Russia, but then received some soup and fled back to Spain the remnants of it ..
      1. iouris
        iouris 15 May 2021 11: 49
        0
        And did they demand an indemnity from Spain?
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 15 May 2021 12: 26
          -1
          Quote: iouris
          And did they demand an indemnity from Spain?

          She was not part of the army, purely on a voluntary basis, of those who were battered by the international brigades. It was not enough, we got it in full.
  10. sergo1914
    sergo1914 15 May 2021 11: 53
    +1
    After 20 years, it came down. Are these Spaniards definitely not Estonians?
  11. Vladimir61
    Vladimir61 15 May 2021 11: 57
    +1
    Due to pressure from the White House Spain had to ......
    The mice pricked and cried but continued to eat the cactus. Who is to blame for you, seniors and seigneurs of an independent country!
  12. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 15 May 2021 11: 58
    0
    Due to pressure from the White House, Spain had to spend 4 billion euros on the war in Afghanistan
    You will not be spoiled by the owner. We walked having fun (sitting out at the bases), counted - we shed a lot of tears. One has to pay for NATO solidarity not with words.
  13. cniza
    cniza 15 May 2021 12: 11
    +2
    For Spain, this war finally ended the day before yesterday, May 13, when its last soldier left Afghanistan. It lasted for about 20 years and claimed the lives of 102 citizens of the country.


    Demand compensation from the United States ...
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 15 May 2021 12: 20
      0
      Demand compensation from the United States ...
      good laughing
    2. xorek
      xorek 15 May 2021 13: 00
      0
      Quote: cniza
      Demand compensation from the United States.

      There were such and where are they now ..? In the reservations and blacks I feel there will be.
      1. cniza
        cniza 15 May 2021 13: 39
        +1
        Vitaly, while everything is going towards the fact that blacks can drive white Americans there, but this will be a war ...
        1. xorek
          xorek 15 May 2021 14: 51
          +1
          Quote: cniza
          Vitaly, while everything is going towards the fact that blacks can drive white Americans there, but this will be a war ...

          It is they who are cunning Anglo-Saxons Victor! ... Trying to cause self-pity to the "poor".
          I studied them very well! Mark my word, everything will be quickly restored there .. They have a lot of debts, so they are forced to stand on their knees
          And then again and in a more brutal form ..

          Hitler in Europe did not just appear with his ideas, this is all the Western policy of exclusivity .. But this time it will not work for them .. We will soak immediately and everything is ready.
  14. Prisoner
    Prisoner 15 May 2021 12: 43
    0
    The sovereign European state of Spain. what So independent, independent. Only Ukraine and the Baltic pugs are independent. laughing
  15. TermNachTer
    TermNachTer 15 May 2021 13: 08
    0
    And what did they think they were in a fairy tale?))) To die for the interests of the Washington Reich Chancellery, it is necessary at their own expense)))
  16. Evil 55
    Evil 55 15 May 2021 15: 38
    0
    They got off cheaply ... a little less than they promised Matrastan for unnecessary Fu-35.
  17. Ruslan Sulima
    Ruslan Sulima 15 May 2021 15: 58
    0
    Typical Spaniard
  18. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 15 May 2021 17: 09
    0
    Spain 16th century, best army, best fleet Siglo de Oro, Eight times (in 1557, 1575, 1596, 1607, 1627, 1647, 1653 and 1680) the Spanish Habsburgs declared royal bankruptcy. laughing I involuntarily remembered how in "Sharpe's Arrows" the author sarcastically spoke about the Spanish regiments losing banners, but reappearing with a proud air and with a new banner - they say, apparently, they had a large stock of regimental banners))) laughing

    Indeed, it becomes clear why Spain enjoyed authority and why it lost it. There was no one to rob. laughing