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Children's Ombudsman of Tatarstan: Galyaviev was brought up in the family in strict rules - they demanded not to smoke or drink

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Children's Ombudsman of Tatarstan: Galyaviev was brought up in the family in strict rules - they demanded not to smoke or drink

The Commissioner for the Rights of the Child in the Republic of Tatarstan Irina Volynets told the press some details about the life and upbringing of the terrorist Ilnaz Galyaviev. Here it is necessary to make a remark regarding the fact that at the moment this “person” is being held as a defendant in the murder case, while in the initiated case the article about the terrorist act is still not used. Representatives of the prosecutor's office and the investigation say they are "studying all the facts" for a possible retraining of this high-profile case.


According to Irina Volynets, Galyaviev's parents raised their son "in strict rules":

They themselves did not smoke or drink alcohol and demanded the same from their sons.

В RIA News Volynets' statement is pointed out that "he (Galyaviev) was not spoiled in his family." Volynets added that "sometimes strong pressure on the child gives the opposite result."

A somewhat strange interpretation of "strict rules". It turns out that if the parents of a child bring up in him a refusal to smoke, drink alcohol or drugs, then these are already "strict rules"? .. But, by and large, this is how children are brought up in millions of absolutely normal Russian families. And this does not mean that all children who are forbidden by their parents to smoke or drink alcohol are ready to grab a gun or collect a bomb to attack innocent people.

A few more facts are noteworthy. Initially, materials appeared in the press with reference to Galyaviev's relatives that he grew up "a quiet and calm boy, from whom they never heard a raise in his voice." However, later it turned out that due to a conflict with his parents, Galyaviev lived alone for several months, was often noticed in conflict situations in an educational institution, from where, according to the administration of this educational institution, he was expelled literally a couple of weeks before the crime was committed. Also published were the words of his classmates that Galyaviev offered them to join a certain sect, and they (classmates) then regarded it as "his next joke."

Recall that Galyaviev, who committed a crime in the Kazan gymnasium No. 175, was sentenced to 2 months under arrest by a court decision. At the same time, a psychological and psychiatric examination has already been appointed, which for some reason they decided to carry out with the involvement of Moscow specialists. And there are no professional psychiatrists in the city with a population of one million Kazan?

Meanwhile, experts agree that even without costly examinations it is clear that Galyaviev acted deliberately.

He carefully prepared for a terrorist attack. Chose weapon not in Kazan, but in another city (Yoshkar-Ola), bought cartridges for it in different stores, collected bombs according to drawings and diagrams, purchased various components from trade objects, carefully weighing everything and preparing combinations of substances and their compounds. In his blood, as one of the examinations has already shown, there were no traces of illegal drugs, despite the fact that a bottle with "fly agaric tincture" was found at the address of his residence. Also, the fact of awareness of actions confirms the fact that Galyaviev, after committing a crime, calmly got rid of his weapons, as well as cartridges, went down from the third floor to the school threshold and, raising his hands, surrendered to the police. Although initially in his account, he wrote that he was definitely not going to give up.
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  1. sergo1914
    sergo1914 15 May 2021 08: 55
    +62
    To me alone, this children's ombudsman seemed like a stupid chicken?
    1. Finches
      Finches 15 May 2021 09: 13
      +50
      This son is not responsible for the father, and the father for the son - to the grave! And the ombudsman (vile Anglo-Saxon word), the ombudsman for the rights of the child, stupidly excuses himself! That's the whole story!
      1. Egoza
        Egoza 15 May 2021 09: 33
        +15
        Quote: Finches
        And the ombudsman (vile Anglo-Saxon word), the ombudsman for the rights of the child, stupidly excuses himself!

        What? Did they turn it on? What does the Commissioner for Children's Rights have to do with it? And how "beautiful" the word ombudsman covers her actions! Yes, under this "name" a lady can otmazyvat 40-year-old men !!!!
        1. Finches
          Finches 15 May 2021 09: 36
          +7
          hi At the same time, without answering for anything!
          1. Vladimir Mashkov
            Vladimir Mashkov 15 May 2021 15: 29
            +9
            VERY interesting "strict rules" from Galyaviev's parents: they bought him an apartment, provided him with FULL freedom of solitary living and generously provided him with material so that a "19-year-old child" bought expensive weapons and ammunition without any problems!

            It seems that the psychiatrist needs to check the parents of the "child", and the Ombudsman Volynets, and the psychiatrist who issued the murderer with a certificate for the weapon! It would also be nice for all those who saw him walking to school.
            1. Devil13
              Devil13 16 May 2021 15: 14
              +2
              Well, he kind of helped out 50k himself for the skins in the COP.

              But how would it be - they rented a hut, lived alone, was it strictly brought up?
              It would be better to give a belt in the ass
      2. frruc
        frruc 15 May 2021 09: 44
        +17
        According to Irina Volynets, Galyaviev's parents raised their son "in strict rules":
        They themselves did not smoke or drink alcohol and demanded the same from their sons.

        What are the "strict rules"? It's okay if there are no bad habits in the family. She would have dragged along the absence of drugs.
        1. iouris
          iouris 15 May 2021 14: 43
          +5
          It turns out: he would be better off drinking and smoking.
      3. rodi18mm
        rodi18mm 15 May 2021 12: 56
        0
        Exactly!
    2. d1975
      d1975 15 May 2021 09: 15
      +16
      Unfortunately not. I read the title of the article more than once. Degradation of the brain on her face. It is necessary to drive such ombudsmen. And this is here in Russia. Yes ...
      1. Snail N9
        Snail N9 15 May 2021 09: 38
        +19
        And you know, the indifference of the state and even its contempt (they did not ask to give birth) to the overwhelming part of society, causes contempt of this society for the rules and laws that this state establishes for society, in turn, the individuals of this society begin to despise, together with the state and society itself, as not being able to influence the state, in order to ensure a fair distribution of the social product, equality, social guarantees in full, social and professional lifts, regardless of social status and position. This is the real reason for the emergence of both different "revolutionary terrorist" organizations and individual "ideologically isolated" terrorist criminals. Unfortunately, Russia, as a state with a high level of labor exploitation and a clan-oligarchic system of statehood with a developed system of social and legal suppression and a complete absence of simple and understandable feedbacks from the population with the legislative system and with the management system, is simply doomed to such "breakdowns" individual citizens.
        1. Pensive Lawyer
          Pensive Lawyer 15 May 2021 13: 07
          -8
          I fundamentally disagree with you.
          1) They did not ask to give birth - if there is not enough money for oneself, then, again, there will be even less of them with the child. We now have capitalism, not socialism. And this means that the state owes a minimum. It is also impossible to talk about the contempt of the state - the state, it does not feel emotions. Individuals can despise.
          2) Those who despise laws, to put it mildly, are mistaken in their nature. We are not in kindergarten. And the laws are not a requirement of the teacher not to be naughty. Laws regulate various areas of our life. Like, for example, traffic rules.
          3) "Fair distribution of the social product, equality, social guarantees in full, social and professional lifts, regardless of social status and position" - this is all about socialism and other "bloody" regimes. Our state is not particularly to blame for the lack of all of the above, there is mad capitalism, these are its chips. It's like blaming a zebra for not pulling a plow. She's good at something else.
          4) Well, completely by no means with the clan-oligarchic system. We no longer have oligarchs. All those who wanted from the billionaires are already in positions, and therefore they cannot be oligarchs by definition.
          And there are no clans either. We have one team at the helm, not several different ones.
          5) A developed system of social and legal suppression .... I don't see a system at all, especially a developed one. As, in fact, the very suppression. A crowd of strange people fell out on a spontaneous meeting - they were chased. Some warmed up, others got the opportunity to see themselves as fighters against the regime and such Decembrists. The rest became convinced of the inadequacy of the opposition we currently have (once again). Everyone is happy.
          6) God forbid the appearance of simple and understandable feedbacks of the population with the legislator and the management system.
          Our population in the country is not 100 people, so that everyone who imagines himself to be the smartest and brightest, pours ideas to the right and to the left. We will have at least 5 percent of such, and this is more than 7 million CONSTANT writers. And from time to time, a good third would write. Who would read all this, and how many specialists does the budget need to support?
        2. mikh-korsakov
          mikh-korsakov 15 May 2021 13: 25
          +1
          Snitch! (they did not ask to give birth) - this is not the indifference of the state, but the statement of a specific d.ura, which received what it deserved and from society. and from the state. The state is dealing with the demographic problem as best it can and can. So no songs. Starting from the statement of Dora, you came to the wrong and contradictory conclusions. Your conclusion is the conclusion of a liberal who blames the state for all his own and social failures. And that's the contradiction. that any liberal advocates that the state should be as small as possible, and there should be more freedom, and everything will work out. But if you are for freedom, and the obligatory provision of every student the way to a high position, then do not blame the state. References to democracy are misplaced. There are more than enough democracy in the United States and the Federal Republic of Germany, but come on, schoolchildren are being killed. No one is immune from psychopaths, any young man is to some extent a psychopath. But the problem is that by fanning the hype, society is pushing people with an unstable psyche to commit an act in order to find their "moment of glory." But the most interesting. that any liberal. having seized power, he immediately begins to despise the plebeians. who put him in power. An example is Gaidar.
      2. Ivan90
        Ivan90 15 May 2021 09: 41
        .
        This is in Tatarstan, not in Russia. They have their own president there. This is what happens if you just flood the ethnocracy with money.
        1. sabakina
          sabakina 15 May 2021 12: 00
          +8
          Quote: Ivan90
          This is in Tatarstan, not in Russia. They have their own president there. This is what happens if you just flood the ethnocracy with money.

          Tatarstan is not Russia, but Kostroma in California. Yeah.
          Cyber ​​troops of the Armed Forces of Ukraine / SBU in action?
          1. Ivan90
            Ivan90 15 May 2021 21: 17
            -2
            As long as there are national
            Quote: sabakina
            Quote: Ivan90
            This is in Tatarstan, not in Russia. They have their own president there. This is what happens if you just flood the ethnocracy with money.

            Tatarstan is not Russia, but Kostroma in California. Yeah.
            Cyber ​​troops of the Armed Forces of Ukraine / SBU in action?

            As long as national republics exist, do not be surprised if such things happen.
        2. Palestinian
          Palestinian 15 May 2021 22: 44
          -1
          hidden separatism ???
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 15 May 2021 09: 40
      +3
      Quote: sergo1914
      To me alone, this children's ombudsman seemed like a stupid chicken?

      Or received an order.
    4. seregatara1969
      seregatara1969 15 May 2021 09: 47
      +1
      and the position is called not in ours - probably misdirected
    5. xorek
      xorek 15 May 2021 10: 56
      +5
      Quote: sergo1914
      To me alone, this children's ombudsman seemed like a stupid chicken?

      Not for you alone ... On Echo and other "Svoboda" this entity has gradually begun to be called the "poor young man" victim of the "bloody regime" Ugh, damn it ..
      After 10 years, they will release interviews from him, they will start to take interviews, like dogs and give money for it .. And he, with a smile, will shoot some kindergarten again .. The death penalty must be returned for treason, including Russia. from the inside will collapse completely.
      1. keeper03
        keeper03 15 May 2021 13: 52
        +3
        The people will decide both him and the Ombudsman and others like them, if there is no honor in honor !!! belay negative soldier
      2. d1975
        d1975 15 May 2021 17: 04
        +2
        First you need to leave the Council of Europe, and then what will happen, but not with us already.
    6. paul3390
      paul3390 15 May 2021 11: 39
      +5
      To me alone, this children's ombudsman seemed like a stupid chicken?

      Are there any other, uh-uh, ombudsmen, God forgive me for such a word? what
    7. mikh-korsakov
      mikh-korsakov 15 May 2021 12: 37
      +3
      Sergey! I support. But here's what I'm interested in. How many more "quiet and educated in strict rules" as well as vice versa "rude and ill-mannered" does not matter, because it does not matter whether they will be motivated to murder because of the hype around Galyaviev. Glory to Herostratus she is. Just think, everyone was noted - both "experts" and "psychologists", and politicians, and even the president. And no one knew about him that week. In adolescence, people want fame. And this bloke earned himself both a "minute of fame" and a "factory of stars" and everything else, and he jumped far over those teenagers who are looking for fame by playing the piano, or singing with their mouths, and singing with their throats, etc. The hype = she is. Those who really want to repeat will find ways both after tightening, and after strengthening the protection and everything else that the authorities come up with. Water finds a crack. And some people have something to envy as grown-up uncles wrinkle their foreheads and argue. what prompted him to bloody razhy or insufficient attention to education. Education has nothing to do with it. Another thing is that nights in a psychiatric hospital in the society of Napoleons and discipline in the camp are only later. But they are silent about this.
  2. Artemion3
    Artemion3 15 May 2021 09: 02
    +7
    I don't know, in my opinion, the parents are to blame, out of the blue this does not happen, there is no smoke without fire. as with shamsutdinov, a person will not just take weapons
    1. Lannan Shi
      Lannan Shi 15 May 2021 10: 06
      +21
      Quote: Artemion3
      I don't know, in my opinion, the parents are to blame, out of the blue this does not happen

      Parents, yes, they are to blame, no question. The question is the extent of this guilt. For example, to take care of my daughters, I had to quit a fairly well-paid job, and drop in income 3-4 times. To see my daughters every day, not once a month. Well the husband is pulling so far. And if, for example, they shut down his desk? Again, you will have to go to work with business trips for 10 months a year. And ... Who will be to blame for the mistakes of raising children? My husband and I, or a society in which to feed 2-3 children, you have to live according to the principle - the wolf's legs are fed?
      And even those who have a normal job not far from home. Little do you know of those who barely have time to kick their child to school, run away to work, and return when they need to get the child out of bed to raise the child? Personally, I see the opposite. The bulk is spinning like squirrels in a wheel, reducing education to - did you manage to shove dinner, ask about school and send to sleep? That's great, I'm a good mom. Did not make it? Kismet.
      Let's first create a society in which people will actually work for 8 hours, and not spend the same amount on the road, and when they have time to raise children, and not just to find food for them, then we will be in everyone is to blame the parents. Huh? In the meantime, at least half of the population has a choice either to educate, but hungry, or well-fed, but not to educate ... Do not let the dogs go on the parents.
      1. Artemion3
        Artemion3 15 May 2021 10: 09
        +4
        That is, the parents are to blame for the fact that he was either completely dismissed or completely jerked off.
      2. paul3390
        paul3390 15 May 2021 10: 17
        +8
        Do not let the dogs go down on the parents.

        No parent is able to withstand the state propaganda machine. For it is the state that must control what values ​​it wants to see from citizens .. And judging by the epic delirium that TV, the Internet, and statesmen of all ranks carry, the psyche of the younger generation simply cannot be healthy. In a society of an insane cult of consumption, a bet on oneself, a loved one, transcendental selfishness, greed, dough as the only measure of a person's value, total stratification into the super-rich and the super-poor, the outrageous lies of those in power, general theft, denigrating all bright ideals, complete hopelessness about the future, etc. and so on - it's surprising that such cases are so far isolated .. Here and an adult sometimes flies from the coils, what can we say about young animals ..
      3. your1970
        your1970 15 May 2021 11: 09
        -5
        Quote: Lannan Shi
        Let's first create a society in which people will actually work for 8 hours, and not spend the same amount on the road, and when they have time to raise children, and not just to find food for them, then we will be in everyone is to blame the parents. Huh?

        Come on! !! And we will be surprised to see that even in the USSR, in order to earn money, it was necessary either to go to the North, or to plow around the clock ...

        And food for children, it was still necessary to be able to find, and not forgive me to go to the store and buy ... The word "thrown out" - then meant not at all what it is now.

        And if you have doubts, then "Crocodile" of the 70s is in your hands or the songs of VS Vysotsky's everyday life ... And it will immediately become clear that even then the parents, in order to live normally, did not sit at home
        1. Lannan Shi
          Lannan Shi 15 May 2021 12: 24
          +9
          Quote: your1970
          even in the USSR, in order to earn money, one had to either go to the North, or plow around the clock ..

          Depends on the measure of your depravity. If the combined incomes of Potonin, Abramovich and both Wrotenberg are not enough for anyone, and he is a watchman at night, the problem is most likely not in the country, but in someone's head. yes
          Quote: your1970
          And food for children - I still had to be able to find,

          I practically did not find the USSR. But my husband .... Full length. Father crashed when he was 12. Mother at that time is an engineer. And as it is strange, but he does not remember either hunger, or that he had to walk in rags. It sounds something like this - yes, they weren't chic, but if you don't pray for jeans, and it is Levays, and you are not ready to sell your mother, for a couple of packs of gum, or a can of caviar, then life is quite normal.
          Quote: your1970
          And if you have doubts

          I do not have them. I have a reference book on the 70-80m close by. yes
          1. your1970
            your1970 15 May 2021 16: 50
            -3
            Quote: Lannan Shi
            Depends on the measure of your depravity.

            Depends on the measure of depravity then..
            A banal two-cell Sharp cost about one and a half thousand - at ANY recalculations at today's prices with any equivalents - today it is a couple of hundred thousand ...
            And even then, even now - this money did not lie on the road
            Quote: Lannan Shi
            And as it is strange, but he does not remember either hunger, or that he had to walk in rags.
            And there was no hunger ... There was pasta, cereals, butter / meat - if thrown out in the store, canned seaweed, bread ...
            What kind of hunger can there be in such situations?
            But excuse apples in May or oranges all year round - this is by great pull or to the hospital .. Ever wondered why oranges were brought to the hospital, even to those who were not allowed to have them? Because it was a terrible deficit ...
            Exactly the same story with clothes - it was, but no one wanted to wear it WHY ... Do you know a lot of tight clothes known throughout your city ?! And then they are sooooo respected people ...

            Z. Y.
            And yes, check with the reference repeat - did he chew bitumen in childhood ?? And did the wild onion and chakan eat?
            And then - according to the answers - I predict the level of income of his family and place of residence
        2. d1975
          d1975 15 May 2021 17: 11
          +1
          You went too far, you could work everywhere, you just drove north for a long ruble, many drew pensions, then really figured it out. Because five years in the north and a pension under 120 rubles from the Soviet Union, it was too cool. Grandmother plowed her pension for her work in 1989, it became only 70 rubles, and before that 40 rubles, before that 28 rubles! And in the beginning, when the pension was appointed in general, and 12 rubles! And the bread cost 20kop, gray 16kop. Yes, and there were excesses, but excuse me, not as critical as now. There was an ideology and everyone knew where it was going, but now, like Aivazovsky, there is a solid 9th wave! The disintegration of society is terrible, no war is needed.
          1. your1970
            your1970 16 May 2021 00: 43
            -1
            Quote: d1975
            You went too far, you could work anywhere

            You can ... The minimum wage was -60 rubles ... Nurses in kindergartens, postmen, librarians, cleaners and so on ...
            You just think the cleaning ladies were yelling at everyone? They just knew very well that even if they give a visitor a rag in the face, they will not be fired anyway - because there are no people willing to pay 60 rubles ...
            Have you seen this ??? Seen many times in life, in movies and in books !!!!
            And the same was with small engineers / MNSs

            Quote: d1975
            There was an ideology and everyone knew where he was going,
            - yeah ... All by all means ...
            One promised communism by 2000, the second has only apartments - without communism ...
            Are you serious about the direction of movement? So they did not even know him as the ancestor - they constantly flew into inclinations ... And by the 70s it was already an abstract thing. In which no one believed ...
            It would be different - "A couple of platoon men with machine guns would come and crumble you into a small venigret" (C) MVIN- the whole gang that divided the country into pieces in 1991, starting with Borka and Mishka ... But no, this did not happen, even the platoon did not have enough believers ...
      4. carstorm 11
        carstorm 11 15 May 2021 12: 01
        .
        That is why China is developing with wild steps and we are not. There, the 9-9-6 formula is common to work with. Loading is wild. But children grow up somehow. You quit your job and I understand you, although I think it's wrong. My wife and I went the other way. There are always options without such extreme steps)
        1. Lannan Shi
          Lannan Shi 15 May 2021 12: 35
          +4
          Quote: carstorm 11
          But children grow up somehow.

          I will not even try to explain to you about China. For information you perceive well, it is very difficult. Search option - China demographic issues. You read that children grow up there well, very much like that. And why the phrase goes - China will grow old before it gets rich. yes
          1. carstorm 11
            carstorm 11 15 May 2021 13: 41
            -7
            I perceive her normally. Moreover, I work with them and my friends have been working there for many years))). And drove it from north to south. But try it) tell me what I haven't studied in years)))
            1. Lannan Shi
              Lannan Shi 15 May 2021 17: 12
              +2
              Quote: carstorm 11
              Moreover, I work with them and my friends have been working there for many years))). And drove it from north to south.

              Laponka, for a long time I haven’t divided your words by 6. That's 2, perhaps.
              Quote: carstorm 11
              But you try)

              Okay, I'll try. I will show you what you "did not notice after passing China from north to south"

              Here is the age and sex pyramid of China, according to the 2010 census. There already the process begins when one retired old man is replaced by 1 young workers. Well, for now, a little more than half, but this is not for long. A year or two, and everything will be. By 0.5, the demographic forecast promises that there will be almost 2050/50 of Chinese people aged 2+. And this is not something that would be a problem, this is all, it has sailed completely. In fact, it is a verdict for China. But the PDA is unable to stabilize the situation. And it cannot work in principle. Exactly for the same reasons as ours. Only here everything is a little better, so ... We will die a little longer. yes
              And yes. Advice. Don't talk nonsense about your travels. For if you really drove through China, then you either have problems with obtaining information, that is, with vision, or with its assimilation, which is even sadder.
              That's all. Successful digestion of new information for you. yes
              1. carstorm 11
                carstorm 11 15 May 2021 18: 07
                -6
                Apparently, when I speak politely and you have a desire to spoil me a little?) I beg you, do not take my tone for weakness. I too can be sarcastic with sarcastic advice quite well. Finish. It went and stupid. As for demography, have I argued with you on this topic or denied its existence?))) As many as three emoticons did not suggest an idea?))) I'll try again out of respect. Initially, the conversation was about raising children. And the answer was to your words about an 8 hour working day, to which I told you about 9-9-6. This is from 9 am to 9 pm six days a week. At the same time, children are being brought up. You got into demographics. If you think that someone asked you to copy-paste tables and texts, you were very mistaken.
                1. Lannan Shi
                  Lannan Shi 15 May 2021 19: 07
                  +2
                  Quote: carstorm 11
                  Initially, the conversation was about raising children.

                  Oh, how .... Have you tried to learn Russian?
                  Quote: carstorm 11
                  But children grow up somehow.

                  And children grow up, and rabbits, and even cucumbers. And by the way, education, this does not apply in any way. And about Chinese upbringing ... Write an article, and we will discuss it there. For the flood is already underway. Frank. But if very briefly .... It was a truly Chinese upbringing and led to the fact that even Portugal could kick that very China.
        2. Incvizitor
          Incvizitor 15 May 2021 12: 39
          -2
          In China, there is no such internet connection from the West, there everyone filters it, we have it all the time from childhood on the Internet, everyone sees "how bad life is in Russia, that there is no future, there is no way not to work and live, and there is no point in living. livestock, kill people, smoke, booze "for such posts, comments are not imprisoned, this is what children leave in the network in this delirium and are brought up, adults then understand that this is all false Western propaganda and the shkolota believes this heresy.
          1. carstorm 11
            carstorm 11 15 May 2021 13: 43
            -3
            But this is more like the truth. There really is no information dump there.
      5. Chack wessel
        Chack wessel 16 May 2021 19: 31
        0
        Here's another thing - before, grandparents of retirement age helped to raise grandchildren and granddaughters. Now, instead of educating the younger generation, grandmothers and grandfathers themselves run to work from the morning ... Who can we thank for that? :)
    2. xorek
      xorek 15 May 2021 11: 12
      -7
      Quote: Artemion3
      I don't know, in my opinion, the parents are to blame, out of the blue this does not happen, there is no smoke without fire. as with shamsutdinov, a person will not just take weapons

      Most likely it is, he kicked his parents out of the house, played shooters, etc. Although maybe someone handled it well in the internet .. Remember the "blue dolphin" group was such a suicide .... The death penalty must be introduced for such, otherwise the wave will go.
      Targets are chosen by the children of the scum. negative
      1. Incvizitor
        Incvizitor 15 May 2021 13: 10
        +1
        Execution is necessary primarily for those who process.
        1. xorek
          xorek 15 May 2021 14: 21
          +3
          Quote: Incvizitor
          Execution is necessary primarily for those who process.

          Such people are usually far away .. I once pretended to be naive on an extremist site And then it started, they even swore among themselves who would handle me and accept their faith. bully .
          Trolled them wonderfully, but thought very much .. And how many of these boys and girls are treated so tricky ..?
          This is a very serious problem for Russia!
          You need to catch them wherever they are and with an ice pick in the head .. soldier
          1. Andobor
            Andobor 15 May 2021 17: 07
            0
            Quote: xorek
            and an ice pick in the head ..

            Putin said that traditional methods in these cases are ineffective.
          2. Incvizitor
            Incvizitor 15 May 2021 18: 24
            0
            First of all, it is impossible to sell weapons to such youngsters, at least from the 21st year they do not even realize their responsibility, they want to buy, like in the game, to walk with him with an advantage and pull the bolt.
  3. knn54
    knn54 15 May 2021 09: 08
    +17
    "If a person does not drink, does not smoke and shuns the society of young ladies, then the question involuntarily arises, is he not a scoundrel?"
    A. P. Chekhov.
    1. Snail N9
      Snail N9 15 May 2021 10: 04
      -4
      Doesn't drink ... Doesn't smoke ... Is shunned by the society of young ladies ... Isn't that about Muslims? winked
      1. Vol4ara
        Vol4ara 15 May 2021 10: 25
        +6
        Quote: Snail N9
        Doesn't drink ... Doesn't smoke ... Is shunned by the society of young ladies ... Isn't that about Muslims? winked

        The latter is definitely not about them, and the first 2 points are also questionable. In a hostel, a Dagestani neighbor ate lard worse than Ukrainians
      2. sabakina
        sabakina 15 May 2021 12: 46
        0
        Quote: Snail N9
        Doesn't drink ... Doesn't smoke ... Is shunned by the society of young ladies ... Isn't that about Muslims? winked

        Yes, hell knows ...
    2. xorek
      xorek 15 May 2021 11: 15
      -1
      Quote: knn54
      "If a person does not drink, does not smoke and shuns the society of young ladies, then the question involuntarily arises, is he not a scoundrel?"
      A. P. Chekhov.

      That's right, people in Russia were always wary of such people, not knowing what was on their minds .. As they say in Russia, I didn't drink vodka with you so that you could call me "you"
    3. Captain45
      Captain45 16 May 2021 14: 24
      0
      Quote: knn54
      "If a person does not drink, does not smoke and shuns the society of young ladies, then the question involuntarily arises, is he not a scoundrel?"
      A. P. Chekhov.

      "- A cup of wine? White, red? Which wine do you prefer at this time of day?"
      - Most humbly ... I do not drink ...
      - In vain! So would you like to order a game of dice? Or do you like any other games? Dominoes, cards?
      “I’m not playing,” said the barman, already tired.
      - It is quite bad, - concluded the owner, - something, you will, unkind lurks in men who avoid wine, games, the company of lovely women, table conversation. Such people are either seriously ill or secretly hate others. However, exceptions are possible. Among the people who sat down with me at the banquet table, sometimes amazing scoundrels came across! "
      M.A. Bulgakov "The Master and Margarita"
  4. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 15 May 2021 09: 08
    +12
    A somewhat strange interpretation of "strict rules"
    Like the rest of the laudatory characteristics of the criminal, sounding from different sources earlier. It remains for a certain methodology to transfer to the category of #yzhedeti # and forgive? It's just that all these directors, commissioners, etc. are trying to absolve themselves of responsibility for what happened, and they sometimes bear unconscious nonsense.
    1. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 15 May 2021 11: 59
      +5
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Simple all these directors, delegates, etc. are trying to absolve themselves of responsibility for the so they sometimes carry unconscious nonsense.

      30 years ago, when I joined the hunting community, I had to leave a year of candidate experience + get recommendations from three hunters, after which I had to hand over the hunting minimum and only after that it was possible to collect documents for the acquisition of weapons. It’s bad, poor, but the guarantors were responsible for the one whom they recommended for admission to society. Now all this has been reset to zero. you can get a federal ticket of a unified state standard simply by application and passport, without any recommendations. There is a ticket, collect documents for weapons. The medical examination itself is most often carried out formally, stupidly paid money and is "good". In fact, the state, in the fight against hunting societies in favor of tycoons from the hunting business and private hunting farms, has itself created the conditions for weapons to legally fall into the hands of du.raks while reducing the barrier of someone's personal liability to a minimum. Previously, everything was fine-tuned and there was no shooting in schools, from the word at all, but now a mess is observed in everything - both in the forest and in the heads. So the "reformers" should also be held accountable, since these idiots Roslyakov (Kerch) and Galyaviev (Kazan) are their by-products.
  5. rocket757
    rocket757 15 May 2021 09: 13
    +13
    Children's Ombudsman of Tatarstan: Galyaviev was brought up in the family in strict rules - they demanded not to smoke or drink
    ... So what?
    What conclusion can be drawn from this?
    Somehow it seems to me that not everything is in order in the "kingdom", although I would like to say more precisely that we are not in order !!!
    To the "statesmen, people's representatives", there is such a question, and what do you want to get as a result, what kind of our state needs a growing generation?
  6. prior
    prior 15 May 2021 09: 14
    +14
    Galyaviev in the family was brought up in strict rules - they demanded not to smoke or drink

    It would be better if he drank, smoked and never took up arms.
    It seems that the children's room of the police coped with its duties better than the newly-minted ombudsmen.
    1. Snail N9
      Snail N9 16 May 2021 09: 00
      0
      Why did everyone get the idea that the family did not bring him up in the spirit of superiority over others? Maybe he constantly heard in the family impartial statements about others? What type of round-trip, stupid, and so on. And what is the very situation with tolerance in the republic itself? Something tells me that not everything is in order with this. For example, in the so-called Bashkortostan, it is definitely not in order.
  7. dimy44
    dimy44 15 May 2021 09: 15
    +9
    That they are running around with him like a written sack Maybe they will find more excuses for him?
    1. Finches
      Finches 15 May 2021 09: 43
      +1
      In this case, the meeting of the troika, for 3 days, without any lawyers (I wonder who will undertake to defend this), and into the queens, by way of life-giving lead injection into the head, is completely justified!
      1. dimy44
        dimy44 15 May 2021 10: 02
        +1
        The smartphone was malfunctioning when I was flipping through, I slapped a minus to you. And for some reason it does not allow to cancel the site, this is a flaw, I think.
    2. Revolver
      Revolver 15 May 2021 10: 40
      +1
      Quote: dimy44
      That they are running around with him like a written sack Maybe they will find more excuses for him?

      Can't you find the rope there? So let me know, I will gladly send via DHL. But somehow find a suitable tree or lamppost on the spot, since expulsion is fraught with too much difficulty.
  8. Avior
    Avior 15 May 2021 09: 23
    +9
    I'm sure there are many families in Kazan in which parents demand from their sons not to drink or smoke.
    And not only in Kazan. My parents demanded the same from me, as most parents demanded from their children.
    The odd thing is that several days have passed, but no serious information about what caused his act has appeared.
    no sect in which he was a member is named, no political organizations or views, no information about any conflict related to the school - nothing to explain his action.
    it usually pops up quickly enough.
    Only reports of his health passed.
    But if the examination recognizes him as sane at the time of the crime, the investigation will have to look for some explanation for his crime.
    1. Normal
      Normal 15 May 2021 11: 19
      +3
      Correctly and do that they do not give out any information. It should always be that way. This should be the rule! Now what? Just think, this movement was given a NAME - Columbine. To make it apparently easier for teenagers to search for a group by tags? This is a terrorist act, this is the only way to cover such sad news! Now everyone wants information, then talk shows on all channels, so that the next teenager sitting at the screen thinks about why not get so famous? My friend, a forensic polygraph examiner + a criminal psychologist, said that after a talk show with Shurygina, who was allegedly raped and now runs from channel to channel, she became a blogger, the next year, statements from young fools increased 300 times, about rape. We decided to light up along the same path and get to the capital. So dear, no publicity is needed here, from the word at all, I know what I'm talking about, believe me. It is enough that there are specialists in the subject, who is supposed to know about it, and not receive information on TV or on the Internet. We don't need to know her. If the Psychological and Psychiatric Commission is from Moscow, then this is the Serbian Institute, and there the guys know their business very well. It is important to understand, to this commission, that he was shouting at the camera, that he is a god - (paraphrenic syndrome), or it is aggravation (exaggeration, aggravation of the symptom) and then he will get it in full, or he is really mentally ill and then the hospital is with everyone resulting. There are three types of behavior in such cases: the actual simulation, well, I think there is no need to explain here, dissimulation is the deliberate concealment of symptoms, and aggravation, weighting. Example: a guy does not want to go to serve in the army - aggravation, invents serious illnesses for himself. Dissimulation - a civil aviation pilot has increased pressure, but in order not to be written off, he explains his increased pressure with fictional stories, that is, he downplays his significance due to other factors. Anyway, this baby boy has a personality disorder. It can also be caused by organics (brain) For example, brain atrophy gives aggression, vascular dementia also increases aggression. Here the specialists on the spot must understand. But what is striking is that I wanted to live, otherwise I would not have given up. It means that reasonable actions are available, and the instinct of self-preservation is present, this is not an affect even once.
      1. Avior
        Avior 15 May 2021 15: 16
        -1
        If he is mentally ill, and the examination will confirm this, then your reasoning is an empty space.
        If not, then the question of the motive of the crime immediately arises, and there is nothing secret about it. Therefore, the question arises, which one? And why is nothing known about him?
        1. Normal
          Normal 15 May 2021 16: 56
          -2
          An empty place is just you.
          1. Avior
            Avior 15 May 2021 16: 59
            -1
            you were wrong, you were herding pigs with someone else.
            I will not bother you, continue your work.
            hi
            1. Normal
              Normal 15 May 2021 17: 00
              -2
              move away from the mirror, and the pigs will cease to appear, tram hamlet.
        2. Normal
          Normal 15 May 2021 17: 04
          0
          If you knew how to read and, most importantly, analyze, you would read this in my text: "It is important to understand, to this commission, that he was shouting at the camera that he is a god - (paraphrenic syndrome), or is it aggravation (exaggeration, aggravation of the symptom) and then he will get it to the fullest, or he is really mentally ill and then the hospital is with everyone. " This is what you put aside as a maggot in your next worthless speech. You should have done a lobotomy, it would be useful to science.
          1. Avior
            Avior 15 May 2021 18: 16
            -1
            ... you were wrong, you were herding pigs with someone else.
            I will not bother you, continue your work.
  9. samarin1969
    samarin1969 15 May 2021 09: 24
    +16
    Why does a children's ombudsman interfere in the fate of an adult killer? ...
    And so the "children's age" is arbitrarily overstated by 2-3 years. And here is a fully formed male.
    1. dimy44
      dimy44 15 May 2021 09: 39
      +7
      And just the children's ombudsman has a reason to promote himself, and do not care that there is nothing sacred on other people's deaths.
    2. Revolver
      Revolver 15 May 2021 10: 42
      +1
      Quote: samarin1969
      fully formed male.

      Onizhedeti wassat
  10. 75 Sergey
    75 Sergey 15 May 2021 09: 29
    +9
    A strange conclusion - they were not allowed to drink and smoke and became a murderer ?!
    And if they did, would you become a saint?
  11. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 15 May 2021 09: 30
    +7
    It seems to me alone that the "system" wants to whitewash itself. I will expose a seditious thought, but if he were allowed to drink and smoke, then this grief would not have happened?
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 15 May 2021 09: 43
      +12
      Quote: tralflot1832
      It seems to me alone that the "system" wants to whitewash itself

      I support! "Sistema" does not want to admit that in the absence of ideology, broad, all-round education, starting with the family, school, organizations of that time and others, such expressions appear ... And all sorts of sects take up empty space. Whether it will still be, if they do not catch it in time.
      1. paul3390
        paul3390 15 May 2021 11: 35
        +3
        in the absence of ideology, broad, all-round education, starting with the family, school,

        You're wrong. Ideology is, despite all the assurances to the contrary. And she is iron liberal. Not just eating - but also actively implanted from each zombie box. It's the same with upbringing - they don't even make a secret that they want to make a consumer of us. Moreover, a thoughtless and unrestrained consumer of pseudo-material goods. Extraction of funds for which - and should be the meaning of an individual's life .. Everything else - spirituality there, conscience, honor, decency - are swept aside as interfering with the main task - to eat as much as possible.
  12. Prisoner
    Prisoner 15 May 2021 09: 33
    +4
    In which families do parents advocate for smoking and drinking? What kind of bagpipes did Volynets pull on? Dad and mom are you guilty that this bastard has grown into such scum, because it was forbidden to drink?
  13. viktor_ui
    viktor_ui 15 May 2021 09: 39
    +2
    Obdusman ... just with such a statement of his answer. That is why this 19-year-old ghoul's face is not smashed into mush when the policemen took him ??? Humanity ... no, I don't think so. They already write that IT behaves defiantly during interrogations and threatens the investigator.
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 15 May 2021 10: 44
      +2
      Quote: viktor_ui
      They already write that IT behaves defiantly during interrogations and threatens the investigator.

      There is such a technique of interrogation, called "thermorectal cryptanalysis". Usually, only a hint of it is enough for the interrogated to crow like a rooster.
      thermorectal cryptanalyzer
  14. BISMARCK94
    BISMARCK94 15 May 2021 09: 52
    +5
    Following the logic of the authorities, now they will have to introduce incentives for smoking and alcohol.
  15. bar
    bar 15 May 2021 10: 03
    -1
    And there are no professional psychiatrists in the city with a population of over one million Kazan?
    Meanwhile, experts agree that even without costly examinations it is clear that Galyaviev acted deliberately.

    I asked myself, I answered myself. Of course, there are professional psychiatrists in the million-plus city. But after Minnikhanov himself radically rejected the version of the terrorist act, it is unlikely that any professional psychiatrist in this subject of the federation will dare to argue with by the
  16. Essex62
    Essex62 15 May 2021 10: 07
    +3
    In the USSR, such a crime would be punished unambiguously by a watchtower. And most likely the police did not allow him to surrender, having found out who and how much, this non-human, shot
  17. Split
    Split 15 May 2021 10: 10
    +3
    He who does not smoke or drink will die healthy ... winked although the execution was canceled, I think Rudev will not live longer
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 15 May 2021 11: 03
      +4
      I think Rudeva won't live longer
      ..Raduev signed himself a death sentence in the courtroom, after the verdict was announced. When the journalists asked when he was taken out of the courtroom, what will you do in the places to serve your sentence? I will write a book in which I will tell the whole truth about the Chechen war. When I saw these shots, I immediately thought that he would not live long, and so it happened.
      1. Split
        Split 15 May 2021 11: 55
        +1
        What is there to tell, everything is clear there, as on a clear day
      2. Roma 1977
        Roma 1977 15 May 2021 15: 54
        +2
        The book had to be written before the trial. Although, they would have killed in any case.
        1. parusnik
          parusnik 15 May 2021 16: 27
          +1
          If I had started to write before the trial, they would have been caught earlier, but I would not have lived to see the trial.
      3. Split
        Split 15 May 2021 19: 10
        +2
        I will answer again ...
        Alas ... even among quite sane people ...
        1. Sold weapons to the same militants
        2. Gave maps of passages, etc.
        3.warned

        And these are not 18-year-old fighters, but officers who have passed the Afghan, etc. ... The poverty of the country and the grandmother who paid them cost the lives of others ... Pskov and not only she ... If these "officers" were found, I would for the death penalty ... Although I understand that they did not come to this life because of a good life ... only I, having debts of 1 lam, will figure it out myself ... I solve my problems myself (c) Brother 2 There is no part the courts decided and many, at the sight of bucks, betrayed the entire unit. Nits and you need to crush them .... Right now, Kadyrov, having received money from us, keeps these in check ... We need to find those who betrayed us because of the dough.
        1. Split
          Split 15 May 2021 19: 13
          +1
          Our column was also pinned to the ground, 8 wounded ... we put xs there, a lot of blood ... the box there leveled everything to the ground ... a lot of blood ... 30mm cannot be canceled ... But another headquarters ... ka said and they knew ... I would have seen him in a coffin, August 2001
      4. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 16 May 2021 10: 00
        0
        Then it was Openel's secret ...... The general truth was shown in the film made by NTV. Raduev could only indicate some specific surnames ... And if you remember, at the time of the capture he was no longer a healthy person with a plate in his head ...
  18. TerraSandera
    TerraSandera 15 May 2021 10: 24
    +1
    Children's "ombudsmen" have interesting concepts of the modern world. The absence of bad habits, almost an aggravating circumstance, explaining everything.
  19. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 15 May 2021 10: 25
    +3
    Children's Ombudsman
    I do not understand something wrong, what kind of child are we talking about? !!!!
    thug 19 years old !!
  20. steelmaker
    steelmaker 15 May 2021 10: 30
    0
    It is not necessary to take such prisoners at all. And even if they did, only to give them to their parents to be torn apart! We arranged an advertisement for him here. He must die and as quickly as possible!
  21. Revival
    Revival 15 May 2021 11: 09
    0
    What am I, I don’t know, or what’s the matter?
    Why do they write about him in every article using the term terrorist?

    Or does his actions fall under the definition of terrorism?

    Or is it just an illiterate author?
    1. denk20
      denk20 15 May 2021 12: 01
      0
      And how do you designate the actions performed by this "person"?
      1. Revival
        Revival 15 May 2021 15: 11
        0
        This is definitely murder.
  22. venik
    venik 15 May 2021 11: 32
    0
    ".....Initially, materials appeared in the press with reference to Galyaviev's relatives that he grew up as a "quiet and calm boy, from whom they never heard a raise in his voice."... .... "
    ========
    Can he also give a medal "for good behavior" ??? And WHO will return the sons and daughters to the parents of the murdered children, who did not really have time to live ???
    Of course, the death penalty is a terrible thing ... But to me personally it seems that as exceptional measures - it must be returned! Precisely - "exceptional"!
    Because it is scumthat have NO place on Earth!
    PS
  23. iouris
    iouris 15 May 2021 11: 42
    +1
    This story is the beginning of an active phase of destabilization from within, i.e. modern form of war, the beginning of the civil war. The "Ombudsman" is actively involved in the events.
    If a terrorist is recognized as a crazy "god" who makes sacrifices to himself, then what is the point in studying the educational process?
  24. Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart 15 May 2021 11: 46
    0
    It is not entirely clear what does the children's ombudsman have to do with it - the subject is no longer a child as a year old - they don't sell weapons to children, right?
  25. denk20
    denk20 15 May 2021 11: 57
    0
    So I pampered and pampered my children all the time, and for some reason I don't even believe that a daughter or son would be able to do this. I would have shot it myself!
  26. Alexey Gushchin
    Alexey Gushchin 15 May 2021 12: 15
    +1
    No words, where do they get such obdulmesnov?
  27. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 15 May 2021 12: 31
    0
    Oh, what a severity the sadists at the age of 19 did not let me smoke and drink, but they came at me at 30 when the drunk came, I probably also had to shoot.
  28. Roman Tarasov
    Roman Tarasov 15 May 2021 13: 42
    0
    Oh-oh-oh: "they pressed hard" on the boy, they forbade drinking and smoking laughing
    These are not "strict parents", this is the norm - especially considering that they themselves did not drink or smoke. Yes, he was sober when he went to kill, but the statistics are relentless: most murders are committed while intoxicated. And there is no need to turn this situation inside out.
  29. Decimalegio
    Decimalegio 15 May 2021 16: 37
    0
    What nonsense, how many teetotalers and nonsmokers are serial killers
  30. Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 15 May 2021 16: 59
    +1
    "Children's Ombudsman of Tatarstan: Galyaviev was brought up in the family in strict rules - they demanded not to smoke or drink"
    And how did it help?
    As pestnya teaches, it would be better to drink and smoke ...
    I drink and smoke. And such thoughts do not come at all.
    Thoughts about the need to buy a refrigerator-visit. Moreover, fiercely.
    Yesterday my wife inspired me with the idea in the morning about the need to dig trenches in order to replace the sewage system.
    And I was so tired at these events that even to shoot her with my father-in-law - I stupidly did not have enough strength ...!
    1. Captain45
      Captain45 16 May 2021 14: 11
      +1
      Quote: Benzorez
      Yesterday my wife inspired me with the idea in the morning about the need to dig trenches in order to replace the sewage system.
      And I was so tired at these events that even to shoot her with my father-in-law - I stupidly did not have enough strength ...!

      And on a sotochku, with "ustatka"? lol
      1. Petrol cutter
        Petrol cutter 16 May 2021 15: 48
        0
        Oh, it would be nice. Yes, it does not support the team.
        Everyone is intimidated by the sanctions.
  31. for
    for 15 May 2021 19: 30
    0
    Quote: dimy44
    And for some reason it does not allow to cancel the site, this is a flaw,

    Both on pc and smart. can be canceled
  32. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 16 May 2021 09: 57
    0
    Who knows, in the end he was a member of which sect?
  33. Captain45
    Captain45 16 May 2021 14: 09
    0
    Initially, materials appeared in the press with reference to Galyaviev's relatives that he grew up "a quiet and calm boy, from whom they never heard a raise in his voice." However, later it turned out that due to a conflict with his parents, Galyaviev lived alone for several months, was often noticed in conflict situations in an educational institution, from where, according to the administration of this educational institution, he was expelled literally a couple of weeks before the crime was committed.(C)
    "An officer, a submariner and an atomic explorer Ivanov died. ..... This is where it all began .......
    Desertion followed, and the political department demanded a characterization for him; carriage life revived again. In the park, they gave him the characteristics of a criminal; noted in them that he has long ceased to be an excellent student of combat and political training, that he is disgusting to the study of the ideological and theoretical heritage, and he is so cool about the current documents that he hardly has at least some outline.
    They thought for a long time: to write that "he understands politics correctly" and is devoted to "business", or not to write, then they decided that it was not worth it.
    In the copy of his service card, for the sake of completeness of his public physiognomy, five removed and twenty not removed disciplinary sanctions were entered; two copies of the court of honor of the officers were urgently blinded, and the deputy commander, noticing that he still had a place in the column, let him through all plans of political and educational work as a participant in conversations about the legal education of a warrior "(c)
    A. Pokrovsky "Atomnik Ivanov" from the collection "72 meters"
    Do you think anything has changed?