Military Review

Who needs another war in the Middle East

296
Who needs another war in the Middle East

Literally a couple of hours after the shelling of Israel, letters appeared in my mail, the content of which can be defined very briefly: “Why are we silent? Who is right and who is to blame for the escalation of the conflict? Who will be responsible for the deaths of Jews and Arabs? What's next?"


It is strange to read the demands to settle a problem that tens, even hundreds of politicians, generals and diplomats cannot solve for many years. The problem of Palestine has already been recognized by most analysts, albeit tacitly, unsolvable. However, I have my own point of view on this issue. Therefore, this material should not be taken as blaming some and whitening others.

The truth is somewhere nearby, but each nation has its own truth. Both Jews and Arabs. And this truth is perceived by people in the degree of truthfulness to which a person supports this or that nation, what religion a person professes, in what state he lives.
For example, I perfectly understand the reaction of Ramzan Kadyrov to the events in Jerusalem and the shelling of Israeli cities. Muslims end the holy month of Ramadan. And at this time, on May 7, the Israeli police storm the Al-Aqsa Mosque, on the day of Al-Quds, on the Temple Mount. How should the Muslim world react to this assault?

I also perfectly understand Vladimir Solovyov, who in every possible way emphasizes his nationality (almost every day) and takes everything that concerns the Jewish people very personally. He's trying to figure out what's going on. But deep in his soul, he is against the fight between Jews and Arabs, against the blood and death of civilians. Against calls to solve the problem by military means.

An excursion into the history that everyone knows


I will not go deep into history the conflict is far away. The history of the creation of Israel is known to those who want to know something about it. I am more interested in the moment when the decision of the UN Security Council became impossible to fulfill? When did the conflict arise, that dividing line between Jews and Arabs, which today has become simply impossible to cross?

It is clear that after what the Jews in European countries experienced during World War II, the Europeans needed to prevent them from returning to their countries. After all, they will ask from those who killed their families, their children, their old people. The myth that only German soldiers and the German people were guilty of the massacres of Jews has long been one of the most popular in Europe and in the USSR as well.

Sometimes the question arises as to why this myth was also widespread in the USSR? How, then, can one explain the disappearance of Jews in Lvov, Kiev, Minsk, and the Baltic republics? We considered these republics to be part of the Soviet people. How can we explain the disappearance of Jews in socialist countries like Poland? But this is my opinion, which I do not claim to be correct.

But back to the history of Israel. It seems to me that the problem became insoluble after the Israelis occupied East Jerusalem during the 1967 war. But the old town is located there. The Jews went for a direct violation of the UN Security Council decision, according to which Jerusalem was to become a special administrative unit under the control of the UN.

The city, which is the center of three religions at once, was supposed to become a semblance of the European Vatican. But even then it became clear that Israel was focused on completely taking this city for itself. Nobody asked the opinions of the Arabs. US support untied Tel Aviv's hands. In fact, Jerusalem became Israeli, but legally it remained nobody's.

Aggravation was inevitable. And everyone understood it


Alas, there is no need to say that the situation will be frozen for decades, or perhaps forever. We were silent about too many things. Too much was advantageous for us not to see. I say "us" without referring to Russia or any other country. I'm talking about the press. About journalists, analysts, experts.

We "swallowed" the American version of the future capital of Palestine. Somewhere there, sometime there, a new capital of the Arab state may be built. Built in the east, more precisely - in the eastern suburbs of Jerusalem. It suited everyone. More precisely, as I wrote above, we swallowed it out of fear, because of weakness, because of cowardice, for political reasons.

Together we did not notice that there was simply nowhere to create Palestine. There is simply nowhere physically. West Bank and Gaza Strip. And narrow stretches of territory between the numerous Israeli settlements. Dumbbell on the Middle East map. And the Jews themselves did not notice this. The land is kind of ownerless, as long as there is no formalized state. And there are few people there.

It finally became clear that this business would not end in peace after President Trump's decision to move the US Embassy to Jerusalem. Many people remember the number of protests against such a decision in the world and in the United States itself. But few will be able to clearly formulate the reason for such a protest. Well, the Americans moved the embassy, ​​so what?

And the reason is really serious. The relocation of the embassy actually means the recognition of Jerusalem as legally Israeli. Knowing how the world of the West works, it is not difficult to imagine that quite a lot of Washington's haunted countries will do the same in the wake of the United States. Consequently, some of the UN members recognize the legitimacy of the capture of Jerusalem and Israel's actions in general.

There is another factor that even the Israelis themselves are embarrassed to talk about. Traditionally, thanks to the media, we are accustomed to believe that the overwhelming majority of crimes in Israel are committed by Arabs. That it is Arab settlements (or Arab areas of cities) that are breeding grounds for crime in this country. In fact, the number of street crimes of Arabs and Jews is quite comparable.

On the streets of Israeli cities today, not only gangs of Palestinians are operating, but also gangs of Jews. And this is a fact. And the police, as it turned out, are not trained to fight these gangs. Today we see the result of this transformation of society in numerous videos from Israeli cities.

Last but not least. The Israelis are well aware that Washington, by its actions against Iran, provoked it to activate not only its nuclear program, but also to support the Palestinian militants. Both the first and the second are very undesirable for Israel. The intensification of hostilities, or better - war, will force the Americans to decide who is their ally and who needs to be spread rot.

I have written more than once that the atomic weapon Iran will radically change the balance of power not in favor of Israel. Therefore, the Israeli prime minister is forced to push the United States to the desired decision. What is needed, first of all, is the Israelis.

Is there a way to stop the bloodshed


It is already clear that in the current conditions the confrontation will not end without outside help. Israel is preparing a ground operation for retaliation, strikes at Hamas, and all talk about civilians, children and other old people is swept aside. If there, according to intelligence, there is something belonging to Hamas, then all means are good, and the lives of civilians are not important.

Recently, Turkish President Recep Erdogan proposed joint actions to the Russian President to stop the bloodshed. No matter what we write, no matter what we say, Syria has shown that in the end it is possible to negotiate with the Turks. Difficult, but possible. It is clear that Erdogan is playing his own game. The proposal of the international peacekeeping forces from the Russian and Turkish military to protect the Palestinians is, first of all, the legalization of the Turkish army in the conflict zone.

Turkey needs Russia already because it is the only country with which both sides talk. And the soldiers of Russia are already quite respected in the Arab world. So, within the framework of Erdogan's policy to create the Great Turan, everything is working out. Jerusalem was Turkish. Hence, it must be returned. And Palestine was Turkish a hundred years ago.

An interesting construction turns out. On the one hand, Israel needs Jerusalem in order to remain an exclusive regional state. On the other hand, Israeli Jerusalem breaks the entire structure of international relations in which this state was created.

At the same time, Turkey is thinking about returning its leading position in the Middle East. This requires Turkish Jerusalem. And Israel, as a state, is absolutely unnecessary. But ... Both options completely exclude the existence of an independent Palestine. Both options don't even offer autonomy.

Russia can really influence this war. Do not stop, but freeze for a while. But no more. With or without the help of the Turks, it doesn't matter. It is not necessary to bring in peacekeepers for this. Excessive spending and unnecessary risk of the lives of peacekeepers. We have enough influence and diplomacy to bring both Israelis and Palestinians to the negotiating table.

However, one cannot expect results from such negotiations. Simply because for the elimination of the conflict it is necessary to go back, to return to the UN General Assembly resolution number 181 of November 29, 1947 on the partition of Palestine and the formation of two states. If Palestine agrees with this, then for Israel it is like death. This means that no matter what is agreed at the negotiations, it will not change the situation in any way. Conflicts, wars, claims will arise.

And ultimately, given the fact that the world is changing, this could lead to a big war. And, to put it bluntly, to a war in which not only the countries of the region will participate, but also the world powers. I do not exclude that the war may take on a global character.

Summary results


The Middle East is on the verge of war. Another Arab-Israeli war. If you look at the Arab countries, you can see a real rise in anti-Israel sentiment. So far, governments are in control. But this "for now" will operate exactly before the start of Israel's ground operation. And, judging by what is happening in this country, such an operation is being prepared.

The proposal of President Erdogan, for whatever reasons this proposal is not made, is currently impracticable.

UN? The next resolution, taking into account the attitude to these resolutions in Tel Aviv, will simply be nothing. Another "expression of deep concern", nothing more.

Both sides are not at all inclined towards a peaceful settlement. Whatever Israeli and Palestinian politicians tell us ...
Author:
296 comments
Information
Dear reader, to leave comments on the publication, you must sign in.
  1. Vladimir_2U
    Vladimir_2U 17 May 2021 04: 07
    +2
    The Middle East is on the verge of war. Another Arab-Israeli war. If you look at the Arab countries, you can see a real rise in anti-Israel sentiment.
    Maybe then the striped ones with God's chosen ones will be raked away from Syria. But I would not want a war.
    1. Thrifty
      Thrifty 17 May 2021 05: 03
      +10
      Vladimir 2U -without a lot of blood, peacefully, this problem cannot be solved!
      1. bk0010
        bk0010 17 May 2021 11: 23
        +4
        Quote: Thrifty
        Vladimir 2U -without a lot of blood, peacefully, this problem cannot be solved!
        They say that as soon as the Jews elect the old prime minister again, everything will calm down.
        1. Cherry Nine
          Cherry Nine 19 May 2021 00: 11
          +1
          Quote: bk0010
          the Jews will again elect the old prime minister, so everything will calm down.

          No.
      2. Vadim237
        Vadim237 17 May 2021 23: 22
        -8
        This problem will be solved only when Israel expels all Arabs from its country and from the territory of Palestine, and only then will the constant shelling and loss of life on both sides stop, otherwise it will last forever.
        1. stroybat ZABVO
          stroybat ZABVO 18 May 2021 00: 24
          +5
          "will be resolved only when Israel expels all Arabs from its country and from the territory of Palestine"
          Vadim23 and you are still the pike!
          With Hitler in one pan.
          No people, no problem, what would you go out!
          Holocaust for the Arabs, whatever your bottom or tire.
          1. Maki Avellevich
            Maki Avellevich 18 May 2021 06: 36
            +2
            Quote: stroybat ZABVO
            "will be resolved only when Israel expels all Arabs from its country and from the territory of Palestine"
            Vadim23 and you are still the pike!
            With Hitler in one pan.
            No people, no problem, what would you go out!

            in the USSR, too, a couple of nationalities were evicted, and did not buzz.

            to relocate does not mean to destroy, these are two big differences.
            1. Zug
              Zug 18 May 2021 08: 28
              +4
              They were resettled in the USSR for acts for which, for example, in England they would be hanged
              1. Cherry Nine
                Cherry Nine 19 May 2021 00: 17
                +1
                Quote: Zug
                for example in England they would hang

                And Churchill managed to hang a lot of people?
                1. Zug
                  Zug 19 May 2021 18: 25
                  +1
                  Did many Scots go over to the side of the Wehrmacht?
                  1. Cherry Nine
                    Cherry Nine 19 May 2021 20: 16
                    -1
                    Indeed, he was not interested. Did Churchill move the Scots somewhere? Was Comrade Stalin unlucky with the people? Didn't quite understand the argument.
                    1. Zug
                      Zug 20 May 2021 18: 24
                      0
                      Ask Comrade Stalin, but in general, you yourself answered your question ...
                      1. Cherry Nine
                        Cherry Nine 20 May 2021 19: 40
                        0
                        Quote: Zug
                        Ask Comrade Stalin

                        Required.
            2. stroybat ZABVO
              stroybat ZABVO 18 May 2021 18: 46
              +1
              Poppies "to relocate does not mean to destroy, these are two big differences"
              ABOUT! Another Vadim23!
              Move to Madagascar? And if not, then to Poland or Germany? Like, have the place already been worked out, such as Majdanek, Auschwitz?
              Maki Abel, chewed, you, cat, RETRACTOR, pike, another one like Schickelgruber.
              1. Maki Avellevich
                Maki Avellevich 18 May 2021 20: 30
                +1
                Quote: stroybat ZABVO
                Maki Abel, chewed, you, cat, RETRACTOR, pike, another one like Schickelgruber.

                drink a glass of cold water. the construction battalion does not paint.
                dispersed for the night looking, and it is not far to the Kondrat.
                1. stroybat ZABVO
                  stroybat ZABVO 18 May 2021 20: 43
                  0
                  "Have a glass ..."
                  You are right, you need to calm down, otherwise it will be difficult to aim at such Nazis.
              2. Cherry Nine
                Cherry Nine 19 May 2021 00: 24
                +2
                Quote: stroybat ZABVO
                Move to Madagascar?

                Madagascar disagrees.
                Quote: stroybat ZABVO
                Poland or Germany? Like, have the place already been worked out, such as Majdanek, Auschwitz?

                Majdanek and Auschwitz are in Poland, the Poles will not let all this audience in. But in general, sending Palestinians to Europe is one of the most successful ideas. Doesn't the EU love to protect the Palestinians? So let him protect. At home.
                1. stroybat ZABVO
                  stroybat ZABVO 20 May 2021 02: 08
                  -2
                  Moshe Menuhin 1893-1983
                  "For me, my religion is Jewish Messianism and not Judaism" napalm. "Nationalists" Jews "are a new type of militant" Judaism ", but they are not Jews, but" Jewish "Nazis who have lost all sense of morality and humanism of Judaism .. ...
                  It is a tragic fact, the "Jewish" Nazis seized by force of arms, terror and brutality, the houses of the land, the homeland of Arab workers and merchants in old Palestine; built the "Judean Fatherland" and expanded it in the period until 14.05.1948/10.04/14.05.1948 and with the help of murders, evictions, terror between XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX and XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX expelled Arabs from typical Arab cities such as Deir Yassin, Jaffa, Acre, Ramleh, Lydda and etc.
                  Nationalists "Jews" are Nazis "Jews" and I am ashamed that I am identified with them and their deeds of heretics "
                  1. Cherry Nine
                    Cherry Nine 20 May 2021 07: 51
                    -1
                    Quote: stroybat ZABVO
                    Moshe Menuhin 1893-1983

                    Quote: stroybat ZABVO
                    I am ashamed that I am identified with them and their deeds of heretics

                    Comrade Menuhin says everything correctly. I do not see anything good in the fact that American travelers like him are associated with Jewishness.
                    Quote: Cherry Nine
                    Quote: Professor
                    It is a tragedy only for anti-Semites.

                    And for American Jews of progressive views.
          2. Vadim237
            Vadim237 18 May 2021 16: 59
            -1
            Hitler has nothing to do with this - in this situation, neither the one nor the other side will never compromise because they hate each other and this decades-long war can end with the victory of only one, and yes, radical Islamists, be it Hamas or other movements, I will never support since they are the same terrorists only in profile.
        2. Plastmaster
          Plastmaster 18 May 2021 08: 26
          +4
          Quote: Vadim237
          Israel will expel all Arabs from its country and from the territory of Palestine and only then will it stop

          Cool, Palestine was never sawed and the Palestinians are now completely removed. Now the truth is it is called a raider takeover.
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 18 May 2021 17: 04
            -1
            This will now save their lives - the war will end and no one will be firing at anyone. The Palestinians will scatter across the entire Middle East and settle in Lebanon.
            1. Cherry Nine
              Cherry Nine 19 May 2021 00: 28
              0
              Quote: Vadim237
              settle in the same Lebanon.

              laughing good
        3. WapentakeLokki
          WapentakeLokki 18 May 2021 19: 00
          0
          ... and that then the phrase Jew-plumber and Jew-scavenger will acquire completeness !!!
        4. Cherry Nine
          Cherry Nine 19 May 2021 00: 12
          +2
          Quote: Vadim237
          problems will be resolved only when Israel expels all Arabs from its country and from the territory of Palestine, and only then will the constant shelling and loss of life stop

          The idea is working, but expensive.
    2. 123_123
      123_123 17 May 2021 09: 07
      +18
      It is unlikely that this lies outside their national interests.

      The main point is that Israel ignores the very UN General Assembly Resolution No. 181, according to which, in the same document, on the one hand, Israel, as a state, WAS formed and RECOGNIZED, on the other, its BORDERS were defined, where Jerusalem is not entered absolutely.

      That is, if we assume that Israel ignores this 1947 resolution regarding the demarcation of Palestine, then the very creation of Israel can theoretically be called into question.

      As for the non-recognition of this resolution by the Arabs: if someone comes to your land and says: "Well, the world community has decided and we will now live here and create our own state on your lands," then it is quite understandable that the local residents will not accept such a formulation of the question.

      The resolution of the UN General Assembly No. 181 of 1947 was already a huge favor and credit of confidence to the Jews, who, judging by history, did not justify it, cultivating ultra-right (in fact, Nazi) ideas on the land that was kindly allocated to them, contrary to the opinion of local Arabs, while continuing to sow death and destruction among the Arab population, already affected by Israel's cutting into Palestine.
      1. And Us Rat
        And Us Rat 17 May 2021 19: 53
        +3
        Quote: 123_123
        On the other hand, if we assume that Israel ignores this 1947 resolution regarding the demarcation of Palestine, then the very creation of Israel can theoretically be called into question.

        As for the non-recognition of this resolution by the Arabs: if someone comes to your land and says: "Well, the world community has decided and we will now live here and create our own state on your lands," then it is quite understandable that the local residents will not accept such a formulation of the question.

        And the most curious thing, frankly double standards are not even veiled in this commentary. fellow
        That is, Jews and Arabs eat, in principle, I have no right to the same reaction? wassat
        We brand some, we justify others. fellow
        Straight beacon of objectivity. wassat
  2. The comment was deleted.
  3. The comment was deleted.
  4. Revolver
    Revolver 17 May 2021 04: 29
    -11%
    return to UN General Assembly Resolution 181 of November 29, 1947 on the partition of Palestine and the formation of two states
    This resolution was buried at a time when the Arab states unanimously rejected it and attacked Israel. To their disappointment, Israel withstood and even liberated the land somewhat more than the above-mentioned resolution envisaged. After that, the Arabs tried to destroy Israel several more times, and each time they lost more land.
    Before persuading Israel to give land to the Arabs, Russia must return to Germany Konigsberg, France Alsace and Lorraine, Poland Silesia, Pomerania, and East Prussia, and America to Mexico - the states of TX, NM, AZ, CA. But since what is taken on the bayonet is sacred, Israel has just as much rights to retain its conquests as the states listed above.
    1. Thrifty
      Thrifty 17 May 2021 05: 02
      0
      Nagant - before telling others what to return and to whom, return Alaska and California to Russia! And, financially compensate for the robbery of Russia since the time of the hunchback!
      1. Revolver
        Revolver 17 May 2021 05: 11
        +8
        Quote: Thrifty
        return Alaska and California to Russia!

        California was not conquered from Russia, but from Mexico. And Alaska was not conquered at all, but bought from Alexander II. For good money, mind you, at that time.
        Quote: Thrifty
        compensate financially for the plunder of Russia since the time of the Gorbocht
        America did not put Humpbacked in the general secretary, and did not start his restructuring. And the Belovezhskiy conspiracy was for America the same surprise as for everyone else, except for the former party leaders, who jumped into shitokrats and cut the country alive into their specific principalities. So here you are, all by yourself.
        1. Thrifty
          Thrifty 17 May 2021 05: 34
          +6
          Well, yes, Russia has not received only gold for the "purchase" of Alaska! Your America did everything impossible for the collapse of the USSR, about which later your politicians triumphantly trumpeted all over the world! So, no need to shaggy grandmother, I wish you my gorbachet in power, the collapse of your US into separate states!
        2. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 17 May 2021 05: 42
          +3
          Quote: Nagan
          And Alaska was not conquered at all, but bought from Alexander II. For good money, mind you, at that time.

          Meanwhile, the "good" babos you mentioned did not enter the Russian sovereign treasury. Since they were transferred from the United States to England, where they allegedly bought gold, which was allegedly loaded onto a ship, which in turn sank on its way to St. Petersburg, and the insurance company that insured the ship and cargo declared itself bankrupt. Whether there was gold on the ship, or not, is still unknown. In short, the Anglo-Saxons stole babos. This is all because in those days in Russia there was still the privilege of "taking your word for it", and the Anglo-Saxons at that time lied, robbed and stole everything that was badly nailed down.
          Quote: Nagan
          America did not put Humpbacked in the general secretary, and did not start his restructuring. And the Belovezhskiy conspiracy was for America the same surprise as for everyone else, except for the former party leaders, who jumped into shitokrats and cut the country alive into their specific principalities.

          The question is not how this abomination got into the general secretaries, but that as a result of the "well-coordinated work" of the tagged general secretary and the team of "reformers" in favor of mattresses, hundreds of billions of dollars, if not trillions, were pumped out of Russia. How to do this "correctly" was advised by American advisers, adjusting the Constitution and the legislative framework to suit this matter.
          1. Avior
            Avior 17 May 2021 07: 21
            +18
            Mines invented by someone are very tenacious
            In fact, the money came to the treasury and was spent there in the States on the purchase of equipment necessary for Russia.
            “For ceded to the North American States Russian possessions in North America came from the aforementioned States 11 rubles. 362 [cop.]. Of the 481 94 11 rubles. 362 kopecks spent abroad on the purchase of accessories for the railways: Kursk-Kiev, Ryazan-Kozlov, Moscow-Ryazan, etc. 481 94 10 rubles. 972 K. The rest is 238 rubles. 4 k. Received in cash "

            The same ship, the Orkney bark, by the way, also did not sink, but in this case it does not matter - there was no gold there and should not have been
            hi
          2. Stas157
            Stas157 18 May 2021 06: 55
            -2
            Quote: Nyrobsky
            hundreds of billions of dollars, if not trillions, have been siphoned from Russia. How to do this "correctly" was advised by American advisers, adjusting the Constitution and the legislative framework to suit this matter.

            Putin was also in business at that time. He was a very active, major official of the new Russian government and very quickly made his way to the very top. So much so that in the end the family and the oligarchs staked on him. And Putin also changed the Constitution. Fitted under his selfish wishlist to continue the reign.

            I am writing these obvious things for those who diligently separate Putin from Yeltsin and from the dashing 90s. He is a child of that company and a direct participant himself.
    2. 123_123
      123_123 17 May 2021 06: 08
      +15
      Why don't you offer to return Poland and Finland to Russia?
      1. Revolver
        Revolver 17 May 2021 07: 23
        -6
        Quote: 123_123
        Why don't you offer to return Poland and Finland to Russia?

        If you look at the archives of the site, I have long proposed to restore the Russian-German border as it was before the First World War. True, Konigsberg will have to be surrendered, but Warsaw will end up on the Russian side of the border.
        1. bk0010
          bk0010 17 May 2021 11: 25
          +4
          Quote: Nagan
          but Warsaw will be on the Russian side of the border.
          Well, that's not a plus at all.
      2. Professor
        Professor 17 May 2021 07: 51
        +2
        Quote: 123_123
        Why don't you offer to return Poland and Finland to Russia?

        Tatar-Mongols against.
        1. Essex62
          Essex62 17 May 2021 09: 48
          +4
          It seems like a professor, but you are talking such nonsense. Even if with sarcasm. What Tatar-Mongols, you look at the distance from Mongolia to Russia. And why would a nomadic cattle-breeder suddenly move for some crazy khanchik 7000 miles away, establish some kind of statehood? He didn't even know a word like that. He sent the khan to the steppe, gathered a yurt and look for fistulas.
          1. Professor
            Professor 17 May 2021 09: 59
            -2
            Quote: Essex62
            It seems like a professor, but you are talking such nonsense. Even if with sarcasm. What Tatar-Mongols, you look at the distance from Mongolia to Russia. And why would a nomadic cattle-breeder suddenly move for some crazy khanchik 7000 miles away, establish some kind of statehood? He didn't even know a word like that. He sent the khan to the steppe, gathered a yurt and look for fistulas.

            Is this a new look at history? Golden Horde
            1. Essex62
              Essex62 17 May 2021 10: 23
              -5
              The gay European view of history is an utter lie. Technically, it was not possible to implement such a thing, in those dense times. What is this innumerable, the army ate and what to feed the horses? No newcomers, the Horde is local bloodsucking bandits. Around Russia there were enough narrow-eyed, from the Mongolian steppes in a row, someone pinned.
              1. Professor
                Professor 17 May 2021 10: 41
                -2
                Quote: Essex62
                The gay European view of history is an utter lie. Technically, it was not possible to implement such a thing, in those dense times. What is this innumerable, the army ate and what to feed the horses? No newcomers, the Horde is local bloodsucking bandits. Around Russia there were enough narrow-eyed, from the Mongolian steppes in a row, someone pinned.

                I always guessed that there was no Tatar-Mongol yoke and all this was the intrigues of the Banderaites. And then they ate shawarma, well, at the extreme in McDonald's.
                1. novel66
                  novel66 17 May 2021 11: 24
                  0
                  even the term itself is Tatar-Mongols ... where are some and where are others ... nonsense
                  1. Professor
                    Professor 17 May 2021 12: 38
                    -1
                    Quote: novel xnumx
                    even the term itself is Tatar-Mongols ... where are some and where are others ... nonsense

                    I agree. And the Earth stands on 3 elephants.
                    1. novel66
                      novel66 17 May 2021 12: 39
                      0
                      actually on three whales
                      1. Professor
                        Professor 17 May 2021 12: 43
                        -3
                        Quote: novel xnumx
                        actually on three whales

                        https://www.vedomosti.ru/lifestyle/articles/2011/02/08/tret_rossiyan_schitaet_chto_solnce_vraschaetsya_vokrug_zemli

                        In my opinion, they all gathered on this site ... wink
                      2. novel66
                        novel66 17 May 2021 12: 46
                        -1
                        and I have something to answer
              2. DED_peer_DED
                DED_peer_DED 17 May 2021 19: 29
                +1
                I always guessed that there was no Tatar-Mongol yoke and all this was the intrigues of the Banderaites.

                I always guessed that there was no Holocaust and all this was the intrigues of the Banderaites.
                Jews were in the Sonderkommandas, were in the policemen in the ghetto, served in the Wehrmacht and were the first persons in Germany.
                Is it true?
                True, it doesn't matter at all.
                True ?
              3. Essex62
                Essex62 19 May 2021 10: 06
                0
                Nonsense again. The Horde is our Alexander Yaroslavich and his descendants. Russians burned Russians, robbed and took them away. Times like this are no better than the misanthropic gayrope. Those women in general were exterminated, under the guise of fighting evil spirits, so that the number of mouths was not produced.
                What does Bandera and Big Macs have to do with it?
          2. Cherry Nine
            Cherry Nine 19 May 2021 00: 37
            -1
            Quote: Professor
            Is this a new look at history?

            Not new. Academician Fomenko has been writing this for 40 years, and before him, in my opinion, there were amateurs. Russia-Horde, this whole new story in a bad sense.
        2. Cherry Nine
          Cherry Nine 19 May 2021 00: 35
          0
          Quote: Essex62
          Suddenly, for a nomad-cattle-breeder, for some crazy khanchik, 7000 miles away, establish some kind of statehood? He didn't even know a word like that.

          The state of Genghis Khan, of course, was arranged much more sensibly and, in general, was much more advanced than the Eastern European scumbags, whose main business was the sale of their own tribesmen into slavery. Like the African leaders a little later.
    3. Cherry Nine
      Cherry Nine 19 May 2021 00: 32
      0
      Quote: 123_123
      Why don't you offer to return Poland and Finland to Russia?

      Come take it.
  5. Normal ok
    Normal ok 17 May 2021 08: 12
    -6
    Quote: Nagan
    return to UN General Assembly Resolution 181 of November 29, 1947 on the partition of Palestine and the formation of two states
    This resolution was buried at a time when the Arab states unanimously rejected it and attacked Israel. To their disappointment, Israel withstood and even liberated the land somewhat more than the above-mentioned resolution envisaged. After that, the Arabs tried to destroy Israel several more times, and each time they lost more land.
    Before persuading Israel to give land to the Arabs, Russia must return to Germany Konigsberg, France Alsace and Lorraine, Poland Silesia, Pomerania, and East Prussia, and America to Mexico - the states of TX, NM, AZ, CA. But since what is taken on the bayonet is sacred, Israel has just as much rights to retain its conquests as the states listed above.

    Capaciously, precisely and the sweat of the essence!
  6. zenion
    zenion 17 May 2021 14: 53
    +2
    Revolver. It all started after one "king" could not create a coalition and lead it. In addition, a threat was brewing for him that the other elect would create a coalition, but without him, and then the court would closely deal with the "king" and reward him according to his merits. There were two ways - prison, or war, and the "king" chose war and created an atmosphere in which he can hold out, there is such a way to slip past the prison, become president, and the presidential elections in Israel should be held in early June. Then the massacre began during the Muslim holiday and began to beat the Muslims. In order for this to work, Gaza was transferred two days before that $ 30 million. Nobody would do it for free, it is for reliability. Gaza is needed in all cases for the rulers of Israel, because Israel itself created Hamas. When you need to shoot, when you need peace for the whole world. They rule Gaza, because some and others have one father - Abraham, that is, Ibrahim, so to speak, relatives arrange this Sabbath.
    1. Cherry Nine
      Cherry Nine 19 May 2021 00: 42
      -1
      Quote: zenion
      because Israel created Hamas itself

      Well, at first it was bunnies. But then something went wrong.
  7. Alex777
    Alex777 17 May 2021 16: 53
    +4
    Israel has as much rights to retain its conquests as the above states.

    Sounds good. But you are missing one subtle point: what is taken on the bayonet must then be able to convince all neighbors to recognize.
    And to defend what was taken in the future.
    The same Peter I opened the window "to Europe", but to achieve recognition it took him years of negotiations and a lot of gold.
    And with Israel, only the States recognize what it took with the bayonet.
    And the States are far away.
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 17 May 2021 19: 18
      +4
      Quote: Alex777
      what is taken on the bayonet must then be able to convince all neighbors to recognize.
      Or coerce.
      Quote: Alex777
      And to defend what was taken in the future.
      This is what Israel has been forced to do since its proclamation.
      1. Alex777
        Alex777 17 May 2021 19: 20
        +2
        In fact, Israel, with its conquests, lives by the grace of the United States.
        Nobody recognizes them. Neither the EU, nor the Turks, nor the Persians, nor the Arabs.
    2. Cherry Nine
      Cherry Nine 19 May 2021 00: 43
      +1
      Quote: Alex777
      And with Israel, only the States recognize what it took with the bayonet.
      And the States are far away.

      Some strange conversation. And who does not recognize from the neighbors? Egypt? Jordan? Lebanon? Syria, maybe?
      Quote: Alex777
      Nobody recognizes them. Not in the EU, neither Turks, nor Persians, nor Arabs

      And what does "not recognize" mean in general? All of the above, for example, Crimea is not recognized as part of the Russian Federation. So what?
      1. Alex777
        Alex777 19 May 2021 00: 48
        0
        No one has canceled UN Security Council Resolution 242 (1967) on the borders of Israel.
        1. Cherry Nine
          Cherry Nine 19 May 2021 01: 56
          +1
          Quote: Alex777
          No one has canceled UN Security Council Resolution 242 (1967) on the borders of Israel.

          And who in the world does not give a damn about the UN Security Council resolutions? What are Israel's real territorial disputes and with whom?
          1. The comment was deleted.
            1. Cherry Nine
              Cherry Nine 19 May 2021 09: 31
              +1
              Quote: Alex777
              To take it back - yes, there is no strength, but no one will recognize them either.

              While there is no strength, let them not recognize anything. Forces will appear - we will look. By the way. Does Syria have any problems other than the Golan?
              1. Alex777
                Alex777 19 May 2021 09: 35
                0
                You asked a question about Israel - I answered.
                Although you could just make a request to Google and not ask this question. bully
                Syria's problems are well known and do not apply to it.
                The source of Syria's problems is also well known. wink
  8. Zug
    Zug 18 May 2021 08: 32
    +1
    I’ll come here to stay for a while, they say you have a three-room apartment. In general, I take one room and a corridor for myself. They gave me permission here. So wait for a visit. And if you attack me with your fists, I will take the second room from you. Since you are an aggressor. By the way, I’m probably the same. Let there be no second room in the permit for the release of your home, but they say it comes out to the sunny side, and I love the Sun)))
    1. Cherry Nine
      Cherry Nine 19 May 2021 00: 50
      -1
      Quote: Zug
      In general, I take one room and a corridor for myself

      Why one?
      1. Essex62
        Essex62 19 May 2021 10: 17
        +1
        The civil war is like that. We cleaned the backbone and well. For a thousand years they have rotted the Russian peasant and his woman in slavery, let them now live in comfort. And everything will work out afterwards, in a society of equals.
  • Thrifty
    Thrifty 17 May 2021 05: 09
    +13
    Alexander, now the members of the forum will accuse you of nationalism, of "distorting the facts", because history is written by the winners, but the fact that the Arabs cannot create their own state is obvious! Israel has done everything possible and impossible for this! First of all, they took the land from the Palestinians, and then they simply began to drive the same Arabs from their lands, populating them with their citizens. The law is always on the side of the stronger, which ultimately leads to the violation of rights and laws, which is happening now in Palestine.
    1. zenion
      zenion 17 May 2021 14: 56
      -1
      It was such a policy of the Nazis in Germany, to drive, seize, kill. The whole planet knows how it ended. Germany, too, is helping all that it can with hope - let them break their necks.
    2. And Us Rat
      And Us Rat 17 May 2021 19: 58
      +1
      Quote: Thrifty
      the fact that the Arabs cannot create their own state is obvious!

      That is, the Arabs do not have a single country? And the homeland of Arabia (CA) for what?
      Jordan is 70% populated by "Palestinians" and half empty, why is it bad?
      1. Cherry Nine
        Cherry Nine 19 May 2021 00: 53
        +1
        Quote: And Us Rat
        Jordan is 70% populated by "Palestinians" and half empty, why is it bad?

        We tried it, didn't like it. The month of September happens there, an unpleasant month.
    3. Cherry Nine
      Cherry Nine 19 May 2021 00: 52
      +1
      Quote: Thrifty
      the fact that the Arabs cannot create their own state is obvious!

      What other impossibility? The Arabs have 20 of their own states, choose - I don't want to. We chose Lebanon, by the way, and that was damn bad news for Lebanon.
  • samarin1969
    samarin1969 17 May 2021 05: 44
    +9
    And at this time, on May 7, the Israeli police storm the Al-Aqsa Mosque, on the day of Al-Quds, on the Temple Mount. How should the Muslim world react to this assault?


    Yes, the "Muslim world" should not react "in any way"! In Donbass, the level of losses and hostilities was an order of magnitude higher: (hail, BTG, map of fronts, war crimes, etc.). Christendom did not notice this war. Even the hierarchs of Moscow and Rome got off with duty press releases. No one "brothers in faith" began to reconcile. The Armenians with the Azerbaijanis were also much more serious than in Israel. Diasporas got off with PR, the columns of volunteers were invisible.
    And if anyone considers himself a party to the local interethnic conflict in Palestine, then let them fight.
    In the East, such conflicts drag on for centuries. So that diasporas will always have reasons to promote themselves in someone else's war.
    ps Erdogan is already fighting for his ETHNIC brothers in Syria. And he drives other co-religionists in Syria and Libya.
    1. Li17
      Li17 17 May 2021 06: 31
      +8
      That's right! The meaning of wars is very simple, smart get rich, handsome walk up, and fools shoot!
  • parusnik
    parusnik 17 May 2021 06: 01
    +9
    Who needs another war in the Middle East
    War, feeds .. This is well said by B. Brecht "Mother Courage and her children." The more local wars, the wider and tighter someone's wallets become.
  • nikvic46
    nikvic46 17 May 2021 06: 30
    +10
    Unfortunately, there is nothing of my own, and I don’t want to repeat what someone said. For me, one thing is clear, the desire to live humanly is one thing. And braiding the role of religion and, oddly enough, blood is quite another. Yesterday I read an interesting instruction through the "zombie box". "Memorize the words. Choose phrases." . "Got it, don't go to the doctor." This is all so deeply entrenched in people. Alaska does not give people peace. So the king wanted money, he took it and sold it. There, in Alaska, a large number of Russian people died in wars. It turned out that the Eskimos did not Such peace-loving as the Chukchi. When inciting the Aeglichians, they fought a real war with the Russians. And now, my dears, put downsides. All health.
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 17 May 2021 07: 16
      +6
      Quote: nikvic46
      They say that the tsar wanted money, he took it and sold it. There, in Alaska, a large number of Russian people were killed in wars. It turned out that the Eskimos were not as peaceful as the Chukchi. When inciting the Aeglicans, they were waging a real war with the Russians.
      Your vision is somewhat simplified. And the Chukchi did not immediately submit, and Russia would eventually cope with the Eskimos. But the British are yes. In those days, there was a threat of a big war with England, and the tsar quite reasonably feared that in this case England would capture Alaska, the benefit of her fleet is many times more than Russia could then keep there. Having entrenched itself in Alaska, England would threaten the entire Russian Pacific coast and the Far East. So there was only one way out, to sell Alaska to anyone who can and wants to keep the British out. Only America has found such. Moreover, if America understood this, it could bargain much more favorable terms, up to and including receiving Alaska for free. So the deal was very profitable for Russia at that time.
      Quote: nikvic46
      Now, my dear ones, put downsides.

      But to spite you I will not deliver! hi
      1. nikvic46
        nikvic46 17 May 2021 08: 46
        0
        Nagan. Everyone has a common mistake - Alaska belongs to Russia. Alaska, like the land in California, is only a colony of Russia. And for the colonies there was an irreconcilable war. And not only Russia lost the colonies. Those who write about the annexation of Alaska to Russia, let them go to Chukotka and Alaska and compare the standard of living.
        1. zenion
          zenion 17 May 2021 15: 00
          -1
          Not only Russia lost, but also the Naglichians, the frog-eaters and the Mexicans. Mark Twain wrote this about US policy - "Rob a neighbor for his own benefit."
    2. ANB
      ANB 17 May 2021 14: 53
      +3
      ... It turned out that the Eskimos are not as peaceful as the Chukchi.

      Are these Chukchi peaceful?
  • A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 17 May 2021 06: 35
    +14
    the problem became insoluble after the Israelis occupied East Jerusalem in the 1967 war. But the old town is located there. The Jews went for a direct violation of the UN Security Council decision, according to which Jerusalem was to become a special administrative unit under the control of the UN.


    In fact, everything was exactly the opposite and with a difference of almost 20 years:
    during the 1948 war, Transjordan occupied East Jerusalem. But the old town is located there. The Jordanians went for a direct violation of the UN Security Council decision, according to which Jerusalem was to become a special administrative unit under the control of the UN.
    Did the author not know this?
    Forgot?

    Under the terms of the UN-brokered ceasefire agreement on June 11, 1948, East Jerusalem, including the entire Old City, came under the control of Transjordan.

    The city remained divided in two by a demarcation line (a wall of concrete, destroyed buildings and barbed wire) that crossed Jerusalem from north to south.
    Relations between the two parts of the city were governed by an agreement reached on November 30, 1948 between the commander of the Arab Legion in Jerusalem, Abdullah Tal, and the head of the Israeli armed forces in the city of Moshe Dayan. This agreement became part of the general armistice agreement concluded between Israel and Transjordan on April 3, 1949.

    Under the terms of the truce, the Jordanian side pledged to provide Jews with free access to the Western Wall, to the cemetery on the Mount of Olives, and to the university campus and Hadassah hospital on Mount Scopus. None of these commitments have been met. Occupying the eastern part of Jerusalem in May 1948, the Arab Legion destroyed the Jewish Quarter of the Old City, including all synagogues, yeshivas, and public welfare buildings. The Jewish cemetery on the slopes of the Mount of Olives was desecrated, and gravestones were used for building and paving roads. The Jews who survived were simply kicked out to hell. The main shrine of the Jews, the Wailing Wall, was also in the hands of the Jordanians. The square where Jews once prayed has been turned into a city garbage dump.

    On December 13, 1948, the Parliament of Transjordan passed a law to annex the occupied Palestinian territories, including East Jerusalem. In April 1950, Jerusalem was officially proclaimed the "second capital" of the state, which was named the "Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan".


    This went on for 19 (nineteen!) Years.
    It turns out that there was no unsolvable problem?
    The whole world and the UN with him were silent in a rag. But by pushing out the Jordanians and uniting Jerusalem, restoring the status of twenty years ago, Israel immediately created an insoluble problem?

    I already wrote somewhere that the UN did not fulfill its own resolution and did not take care of the city in which at that time 165 thousand people already lived. The city should be cleaned up, garbage removed, illuminated, supplied with water. There you should keep order and carry out a lot of everything that the Jerusalemites were suddenly deprived of at the end of the British Mandate. This outrage lasted two years, until the government of Israel in 1949 took Jerusalem under its jurisdiction. The UN, to be honest, did not object very much, because it cannot even put things in order in its own offices. Where does she manage the city, even more so, it is already almost a millionaire with a mixed population, and with the suburbs and all two million will be.
    1. A. Privalov
      A. Privalov 17 May 2021 07: 09
      +7
      For those interested in the topic: a map of divided Jerusalem.
    2. Avior
      Avior 17 May 2021 07: 25
      +3
      ... Did the author not know this?
      Forgot?

      And in the article, these questions can be put to every second paragraph.
    3. Aleks2048
      Aleks2048 17 May 2021 12: 30
      -1
      Did Israel immediately create an unsolvable problem?

      And that Israel is ready to part voluntarily with the territories that "stuck" after "pushing out" laughing the term is what is chosen to describe the genacide carried out by the Jews.
      The UN did not comply with its own resolution and did not take care of the city

      And what gave Israel the right to expand its territory?
      Don't you think that the Jews just took all Jerusalem under their jurisdiction?
  • A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 17 May 2021 07: 01
    +5
    Traditionally, thanks to the media, we are accustomed to believe that the overwhelming majority of crimes in Israel are committed by Arabs. That it is Arab settlements (or Arab areas of cities) that are breeding grounds for crime in this country. In fact, the number of street crimes of Arabs and Jews is quite comparable.

    Not true. Crime in the Arab sector is in no way comparable to that of the Jewish. Although, in my opinion, the criminals have no nationality.

    Here's what the statistics say. In 2017 (I'm too lazy now to look for newer data) about 0,7 percent of adult representatives of the Arab society were convicted for various crimes. This is three times more than representatives of the Jewish community - 0,23 percent.

    At the same time, the gap widens if you look at the statistics of serious crimes - murders, shooting and arson. 93 percent of those convicted of shooting are Arabs. There is a very high proportion of young people among them. If in 2017, adult Arabs made up 34 percent of the total number of convicts, then minors from Arab society made up 44 percent. It is approximately twice as much as their share in the population.
    Israeli Arabs account for 57 percent of murders and 45 percent of looting in the country.

    On the streets of Israeli cities today, not only gangs of Palestinians are operating, but also gangs of Jews. And this is a fact.

    The data of the interim report of the security forces for these days brings some clarity:
    During the latest riots, Arab rioters burned ten synagogues.
    At the same time, not a single message was received about the burning of mosques.

    Stocks of stones and Molotov cocktails were stockpiled in 28 Israeli mosques.
    In 22 mosques, imams delivered inflammatory sermons calling for Jewish pogroms.
    Not a single synagogue had such supplies, the rabbis did not call upon and smash the Arabs.

    During the week of unrest, 112 Jewish houses and apartments and only one Arab house were set on fire, and the Arabs set it on fire.
    Property from 386 Jewish apartments was plundered, but not a single Arab apartment was destroyed.
    673 houses of Jews and 13 - Arabs were damaged.

    849 cars belonging to Jews and 13 cars owned by Arabs were burned.
    On the territory of Israel, more than 5000 Arab "stone attacks" were recorded and only 41 cases when Jews threw stones at Arabs.

    Not a single Arab Israeli citizen who opened fire during the riots was detained. Dozens of Jews who had permission to carry personal weapons had to surrender their pistols. Not a single armed Arab was disarmed.
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 17 May 2021 07: 19
      0
      All in all, it looks like your 20% is no better than our 13%.
      1. A. Privalov
        A. Privalov 17 May 2021 07: 23
        0
        Quote: Nagan
        All in all, it looks like your 20% is no better than our 13%.

        Alas... recourse
    2. Thrifty
      Thrifty 17 May 2021 07: 32
      0
      Privalov, you are so kind to the Arabs, a tear is breaking through! Especially when you, obviously inadvertently, "dropped" bombs recently on the Palestinian camp, killing them there in dozens, if not hundreds! Give the Palestinians then aviation with bombs! !!
      1. A. Privalov
        A. Privalov 17 May 2021 07: 43
        +4
        Quote: Thrifty
        Privalov, you are so kind to the Arabs, a tear is breaking through! Especially when you, obviously inadvertently, "dropped" bombs recently on the Palestinian camp, killing them there in dozens, if not hundreds! Give the Palestinians then aviation with bombs! !!

        Those mourning innocent Arabs should know and remember:

        Hamas is fully responsible for the deaths of civilians in Gaza.
        He strove for this escalation and began it when he attacked Jerusalem.
        He deliberately placed his rocket launchers, weapons caches and headquarters in the center of residential areas, and this is a war crime.
        He attacks our citizens to kill as many of them as possible, and this is another war crime. Point.
        1. A. Privalov
          A. Privalov 17 May 2021 08: 59
          +3
          Since the beginning of the armed conflict with terrorists in Gaza (from May 10), about 3100 rockets have been fired from the sector into Israeli territory.

          At the same time, according to IDF monitoring data, approximately 450 missiles fired by militants from Gaza fell on the territory of the sector. Many of these "launch failures" have caused damage, some resulting in civilian casualties.

          Let no one be surprised by the civilian casualties. Hamas is hiding behind a human shield, deploying its rocket launchers, weapons depots and other military facilities in densely populated urban areas.

          This diagram of the times of the past conflict with Hamas is provided only for understanding the situation. I dare to assume that the current situation is no better.
          1. A. Privalov
            A. Privalov 17 May 2021 10: 55
            +1
            Hamas mobile rocket launchers in densely populated urban areas.
            Israel will certainly destroy them, but there may be casualties among the civilian population of Gaza, which the militants use as a human shield.
            1. And Us Rat
              And Us Rat 17 May 2021 20: 06
              -2
              Quote: A. Privalov
              Hamas mobile rocket launchers in densely populated urban areas.

              The video was promptly removed. am
              1. A. Privalov
                A. Privalov 17 May 2021 21: 00
                +1
                Quote: And Us Rat
                The video was promptly removed.

                Yes. I have already received a threatening message from YouTube.
                I wrote them a complaint. I have this video. It will be necessary, so I'll post it on another account.
                1. And Us Rat
                  And Us Rat 17 May 2021 21: 18
                  -4
                  Quote: A. Privalov
                  I have already received a threatening message from youtube.


                  From whom? What did you write? belay

                  Quote: A. Privalov
                  Will be needed


                  It is necessary. It is impossible to be silent. yes
                  1. A. Privalov
                    A. Privalov 17 May 2021 21: 46
                    +1
                    YouTube wrote that I committed a violation - I placed a context that is either spam or fake.
                    I'll post it again tomorrow.
                    1. And Us Rat
                      And Us Rat 17 May 2021 22: 25
                      -1
                      Quote: A. Privalov
                      spam or fake

                      Tin, cynicism just rolls over.
                      Did they bother to explain, to bring a refutation? Or "patamushta"?
                      1. A. Privalov
                        A. Privalov 17 May 2021 22: 33
                        0
                        Quote: And Us Rat
                        And they took the trouble to explain

                        Not. We just drove over. My protest was not answered. I think that this is some kind of algorithm that works and no one checks anything there. These are millions of millions of videos. Who is able to check them or respond to any protests.
                  2. A. Privalov
                    A. Privalov 17 May 2021 22: 28
                    +2
                    An attempt to push the anti-Israel declaration into the UN Security Council was suppressed today. The draft declaration submitted by China and Tunisia called for an immediate ceasefire, expressed concern about the plans to evict the Arab residents of Sheikh Jarah but ... rocket attacks on Israeli cities were not mentioned. fool
                    1. And Us Rat
                      And Us Rat 17 May 2021 22: 32
                      -3
                      Tunisia is clear, but where did China go?
                      1. A. Privalov
                        A. Privalov 17 May 2021 22: 36
                        +1
                        Quote: And Us Rat
                        Tunisia is clear, but where did China go?

                        And to sprinkle the borscht into borscht through us. wink
                      2. And Us Rat
                        And Us Rat 17 May 2021 22: 40
                        -1
                        Yes, they are trying to eat a fish and .... this.
                        With one hand, billions are poured into our economy, with the other they scribble slander, to appease the Arabs. No.
                      3. A. Privalov
                        A. Privalov 17 May 2021 22: 44
                        0
                        Quote: And Us Rat
                        Yes, they are trying to eat a fish and .... this.
                        With one hand, billions are poured into our economy, with the other they scribble slander, to appease the Arabs. No.

                        There's nothing you can do. Fortunately, the staff members have hacked this disgrace in the bud.
                      4. Mikhalych 70
                        Mikhalych 70 17 May 2021 23: 48
                        +2
                        I read your comments. And, tell me, you, as a supporter and adherent of the Israeli version of events ... Do you understand that Israel is worthless if the Zaluzhniki cease to support it? That arabieu just throws it in barrels of carbide? And if the power changes behind a puddle? Do you have somewhere to run? Py-sy, in no way am I a supporter of all imaginable and inconceivable, banned in the Russian Federation Arab gangs. Simply, you do not want to lose your personal peace and comfort because of your mutual tempers. For me, win, someone will build a relationship with the winner. And so, now the mothers who love the Arabs will shout that they must be evacuated by the boards of the Ministry of Emergency Situations. And, I would like to ask, when did you, the Arab gave, thought about the consequences? Yes, and our fellow citizens, who were circumcised on the other hand, will now run away. And, interestingly, not to Birobidzhan, but to St. Petersburg and Moscow ...
                      5. A. Privalov
                        A. Privalov 18 May 2021 00: 14
                        +1
                        Tell me, what kind of Arabia that will throw Israel you are talking about? Who are they? Jordan? Egypt? Lebanon?

                        Israel has had difficult times and has dealt with very serious opponents. Let G-d and will stand now.

                        Your leadership is rubbing shoulders with Hamas at the highest level and only Israel manages to press this husk to the nail, grabbing by the hands and screaming, they say, are being killed there. This is not the first time.

                        Deal with mummies yourself, and don't worry about your fellow citizens circumcised. I've lived here for over thirty years. I survived the Gulf War and the Second Lebanese War, and Cast Lead, and the Unbreakable Rock, and the Pillar of the Cloud, and I don’t remember that they asked you back to you.
                      6. Mikhalych 70
                        Mikhalych 70 18 May 2021 20: 27
                        +1
                        You have successfully skipped the first paragraph. In which I point out that Israel is worthless without the help of the United States. Israel is kept only as a welcome to the United States, that is, everything that the State of Israel has or is bought / borrowed from its senior partner. As soon as the US monetary tranches cease to flow into your budget, the state of Israel will cease to exist in its current form, because, no, the orthodox will scatter around the world, but the orthodox do not know how to do anything practical. Yes, your state has a powerful army and security structures, but all this is funded by the United States. Beautiful women who live on sponsorship of men, you know what they are called. So is the state of Israel. But, the youth of beautiful women is not eternal, and Israel, when the thread will become a burden for the United States. In the case of the coming to power of the President, who knows how to count money.
                      7. A. Privalov
                        A. Privalov 18 May 2021 21: 34
                        -2
                        Quote: Mikhalych 70
                        Israel is worthless without US help.

                        The fact is, my dear Mikhalych, that everything that you so emotionally wrote here is a very common delusion.
                        This is not your fault. This has been put into your head by years of Russian propaganda. You get along with it and you feel good. There is nothing wrong with that. This is how they explained it to you and you accepted it that way. There is a place to be.
                        However, there are a number of facts that contradict your usual picture of the universe.
                        Especially for readers interested in the topic, a few years ago, I wrote on VO an article "American aid to Israel. When, how and why." You can easily find it in my profile. I am not going to convince you of anything, but it is quite possible that you will see some aspects of reality connected with Israel from an unknown side. I am ready to answer questions if there are any. hi
                      8. Essex62
                        Essex62 19 May 2021 10: 30
                        0
                        Whichever president-accountant is appointed in the mattress, it will not affect anything with regard to Israel. Taking into account that the madness is essentially not the state but the platform of the printing press of cut paper and the owners of it are Jews, the financing and support of Israel is not threatened by anything.
                      9. A. Privalov
                        A. Privalov 19 May 2021 10: 59
                        +1
                        Quote: Essex62
                        Whichever president-accountant is appointed in the mattress, it will not affect anything with regard to Israel.

                        That's right!
                        Quote: Essex62
                        Taking into account the fact that the madness is essentially not the state but the platform of the printing press of cut paper and the owners of it are Jews, the financing and support of Israel is not threatened by anything.

                        Yes, we control everything in the world, we have seized everything and everything has long been in our hands, you are absolutely right.

                        As for me, this is the Russian ruble - cut paper.
                        Otherwise, why not bail out even one and a half cents for it?
                        Today they give 1,4 cents per ruble, and tomorrow they will give it in the face.
                        73 rubles with kopecks for 1 green! It is necessary to live up to this and so bring your country to the handle!
                        My condolences! hi
                      10. Essex62
                        Essex62 19 May 2021 11: 05
                        +1
                        I accept. hi So it is, not smart lovers of chewing gum, jeans and "freedom" from the dominance of the CPSU backfired in full.
                        And a doller that is not backed by gold cannot be called just cut paper.
                      11. A. Privalov
                        A. Privalov 19 May 2021 11: 07
                        +1
                        Quote: Essex62
                        I accept. So it is not smart lovers of chewing gum, jeans and "freedom" from zazsilya CPSU backfired in full.

                        I am from the sect "Witnesses to the dollar for 90 kopecks and 6 rubles at the commercial rate."
                      12. Essex62
                        Essex62 19 May 2021 11: 18
                        0
                        Let me not believe you. You and the sect? Not compatible. hi For us, as you remember, the doller was unnecessarily. The socio-political system did not provide for exchange rates, stock exchanges, margins and other eructations of capitalism.
                        Now I will look for your article, very curious hi
  • ccsr
    ccsr 17 May 2021 13: 04
    +1
    Quote: A. Privalov
    This diagram of the times of the past conflict with Hamas is provided only for understanding the situation. I dare to assume that the current situation is no better.

    In light of your comparison, do you personally believe that such situations will at least someday end?
    After all, you are a mature person and you understand no worse than me that such situations in the future will be more and more bloody, and it may be time for Russian-speaking Israelis to realize this, unlike the Orthodox.
    Or can you share your vision of a solution to the problem that will satisfy all parties? I do not see this, which means more and more Israeli territory will be hit by Palestinian missiles, and no iron dome will save the citizens of this country from a massive missile launch.
    I would like to emphasize that I personally do not care about your problems - you knew where you were going, which means that such a scenario should have been foreseen.
    Good luck in your fight against terrorism - I am mentally on your side, so dig yourself safer and build more bomb shelters to survive in future conflicts.
    1. A. Privalov
      A. Privalov 17 May 2021 13: 19
      +4
      The Israeli Air Force attacked three vehicles at the Abu Hasira junction in western Gaza, killing three shahids. The names of two are of no interest to anyone, and the third, as befits a martyr, went straight to the heavenly booths, into the arms of 72 virgins - the commander of the northern district of the Al-Quds Brigades of the Islamic Jihad, Husam Abu Arbid.
      Inshalla ...
      His predecessor, Bahaa Abu al-Ata, was liquidated in approximately the same way.

      And so, Osama al-Hasumi and Mohammad al-Pasiach went to the heavenly booths. Both were field commanders of the terrorist group "People's Resistance Committees" and were very fond of launching rockets at the cities of Israel in the hope of killing as many people as possible.
      1. ccsr
        ccsr 17 May 2021 13: 37
        +2
        Quote: A. Privalov
        His predecessor, Bahaa Abu al-Ata, was liquidated in approximately the same way.

        Do you seriously believe that this will solve the problem of the Palestinians? Yes, you are still that optimist, as I can see ...
  • DED_peer_DED
    DED_peer_DED 17 May 2021 13: 35
    +2
    Quote: A. Privalov
    Hamas is hiding behind a human shield, deploying its rocket launchers, weapons depots and other military facilities in densely populated urban areas.

    So they have no other places there, in the "sector". There you really can't walk through the fields and forests.
    Huh?
    1. Cherry Nine
      Cherry Nine 19 May 2021 01: 12
      0
      Quote: DED_peer_DED
      So they have no other places there, in the "sector"

      Maybe hmm not launch rockets, since such a problem? No, some kind of nonsense.
  • LifeIsGood
    LifeIsGood 17 May 2021 13: 57
    -2
    He strove for this escalation and began it when he attacked Jerusalem.

    Yes? Can you remind me where it all started? Apparently the beginning of Israel's eviction of the whole Arab quarter is such an insignificant trifle ...
    He deliberately placed his rocket launchers, weapons caches and headquarters in the center of residential areas, and this is a war crime.

    And where else to place it, the Gaza Strip is actually one continuous building ... And in general, this is Israel "white, peaceful and fluffy" !!! So, the problem is how not to put a bunch of peaceful people solely YOUR headache. And if you don't give a damn about the Arab civilian, then say so, otherwise your excuses look extremely ridiculous!
    1. A. Privalov
      A. Privalov 17 May 2021 14: 25
      +5
      Quote: LifeIsGood
      And where else to place it, the Gaza Strip is actually one continuous building ...

      Apparently, this is a mitigating circumstance?
      Well, yes, it's like a bandit who stabbed a man, asks to enter into his position. After all, except for a knife, he had nothing else. What else could he kill? lol
      1. LifeIsGood
        LifeIsGood 17 May 2021 14: 30
        +1
        But I can't consider it a burdening factor either! Because it's stupid to "take offense at a wild boar that doesn't go on your spit"
        1. A. Privalov
          A. Privalov 17 May 2021 14: 36
          +2
          Quote: LifeIsGood
          But I can't consider it a burdening factor either! Because it's stupid to "take offense at a wild boar that doesn't go on your spit"

          This is exactly what I wanted to say: Hamas is its own evil Pinocchio.
          Suffering about the Palestinian people, ask: where have billions and billions of dollars of humanitarian aid gone in a quarter of a century.
          Ask yourself the question: how did it happen that independent Palestine has not been producing anything for a quarter of a century but wormholes for military communication, hatred of Jews and missiles to kill them?
          The Palestinian people really feel sorry for them: they are being held hostage by the murderers. Any Palestinian who is seen to sympathize with the Jews will be destroyed. A Palestinian child in the Sector has almost no chance of becoming anything other than cannon fodder, and this is a full-fledged tragedy, of course.
    2. Cherry Nine
      Cherry Nine 19 May 2021 01: 18
      0
      Quote: LifeIsGood
      Apparently the beginning of Israel's eviction of the whole Arab quarter is such an insignificant trifle ...

      )))
      A couple of clarifications.
      1. No one was evicted, the court is still pending.
      2. Not a block, there are several small houses.
      3. If tenants refuse to pay, then what to do with them, excuse me? Apart from the "shoot" option?
      Quote: LifeIsGood
      And where else should he place

      Nowhere. Will not the answer go?
      Quote: LifeIsGood
      the problem is how not to put a bunch of peaceful people solely YOUR headache

      Why should this be a problem?
      Quote: LifeIsGood
      if you do not care about the Arab peacekeeper then say so, otherwise your excuses look extremely ridiculous!

      I am always true, but Israel, for a number of reasons, cannot act in such a style.
  • Maki Avellevich
    Maki Avellevich 17 May 2021 07: 46
    -1
    Thrifty, not in vain they say among the people - ungroundedly speak out, do not roll bags.
  • Kunich80
    Kunich80 18 May 2021 21: 53
    0
    Let them build or buy for themselves. What are the problems? Need to work?
  • tlauicol
    tlauicol 17 May 2021 07: 43
    0
    Talking statistics.
    Another question, even to the author rather: is not the Palestinian organization running the Temple Mount?
    1. A. Privalov
      A. Privalov 17 May 2021 07: 45
      +6
      Quote: Tlauicol
      isn't the Palestinian organization running the Temple Mount?

      The Temple Mount is ruled by the Jordanian WAKF. He has the exclusive power to manage all the affairs of the mosque and regulate entry in accordance with international law and the historical and legal situation. However, he cannot stop the riots on the Temple Mount. He has several elderly caretakers there.
      1. tlauicol
        tlauicol 17 May 2021 07: 49
        0
        Quote: A. Privalov
        Quote: Tlauicol
        isn't the Palestinian organization running the Temple Mount?

        The Temple Mount is ruled by the Jordanian WACF.

        Well, h..and then be surprised? They will not have order! It's not clear just what else they want?
        The author did not even try to objectivity
        1. A. Privalov
          A. Privalov 17 May 2021 07: 50
          +2
          Quote: Tlauicol
          It's not clear just what else they want?

          The question is, of course, interesting ...
  • Aleks2048
    Aleks2048 17 May 2021 12: 35
    0
    This is what the statistics say. In 2017 (I'm too lazy now to look for newer data) about 0,7 percent of adult representatives of the Arab society were convicted for various crimes. This is three times more than the representatives of the Jewish community - 0,23 percent.

    And now the same thing, but in absolute numbers. With figures for the population.
    And then with statistics, we can all play anything.
  • LifeIsGood
    LifeIsGood 17 May 2021 14: 02
    -3
    During the latest riots, Arab rioters burned ten synagogues.
    At the same time, not a single message was received about the burning of mosques.

    It would be strange if Arab protesters burned down mosques ...

    Stocks of stones and Molotov cocktails were stockpiled in 28 Israeli mosques.
    In 22 mosques, imams delivered inflammatory sermons calling for Jewish pogroms.
    Not a single synagogue had such supplies, the rabbis did not call upon and smash the Arabs.

    Yes, only they just began to forcefully evict the whole Arab quarter, after which it all began .... a trifle, really !!!
    1. A. Privalov
      A. Privalov 17 May 2021 14: 16
      +4
      Quote: LifeIsGood
      Yes, only they just began to forcefully evict the whole Arab quarter, after which it all began .... a trifle, really !!!

      Anton, we have already written a lot about this.
      It's not about the "whole block".
      There were several civil lawsuits of land and real estate owners against residents who did not want to be evicted by a court order from the houses and apartments sold. Moreover, no one was evicted anywhere. A week before these events, the upper court ruled to freeze all actions pending consideration of additional circumstances, since several families remained in, though sold houses, but as before, as tenants.
      But some residents, having no right to stay in these houses, decided to arrange a storm. By the way, Arab judges issued court rulings in favor of the legal owners.

      None of the actions of Hamas in the massive shelling of Jerusalem, Tel Aviv and other cities that take place in that quarter are not justified.
  • Cherry Nine
    Cherry Nine 19 May 2021 01: 06
    0
    Quote: A. Privalov
    In 22 mosques, imams delivered inflammatory sermons calling for Jewish pogroms.
    Not a single synagogue had such supplies, the rabbis did not call upon and smash the Arabs.

    Hmm. Understandable in peacetime, but now there is an exacerbation, the Jews have already killed a couple of hundred Palestinians. Why are these 22 imams not among the deceased?
    Quote: A. Privalov
    Dozens of Jews who had permission to carry personal weapons had to surrender their pistols. Not a single armed Arab was disarmed.

    And why on earth, actually? Is this the state of the Jews or what?
    1. A. Privalov
      A. Privalov 19 May 2021 06: 31
      -1
      Quote: Cherry Nine
      Jews have already killed a couple of hundred Palestinians.

      Almost all of these, the dead (figures are being specified) are Arabs from the Gaza Strip. Hamas and Jihad militants. Of course, in such conditions, civilian casualties are inevitable. The bandyukas deliberately place their rocket launchers in the midst of residential buildings using Gazans as human shields.
      Instigator imams live in Israel. They are Arab citizens of Israel from cities with a mixed population or Arab cities. Nobody was "soaked" there. Several people have died as a result of Arab riots in mixed cities and Jewish retaliation.
  • Professor
    Professor 17 May 2021 07: 36
    +4
    For example, I perfectly understand the reaction of Ramzan Kadyrov to the events in Jerusalem and the shelling of Israeli cities. Muslims end the holy month of Ramadan. And at this time, on May 7, the Israeli police storm the Al-Aqsa Mosque, on the day of Al-Quds, on the Temple Mount. How should the Muslim world react to this assault?

    The Islamic world should express its gratitude for the fact that the Israeli police put things in order on the Temple Mount and drove out the hooligans who prevented devout Muslims from performing namaz. Hooligans pursued their goals far from Islam. They entered the Temple Mount armed with the aim of organizing provocations and disrupting the prayer in Ranmadan. The police ensured Muslim access to the Temple Mount.

    But back to the history of Israel. It seems to me that the problem became insoluble after the Israelis occupied East Jerusalem during the 1967 war. But the old town is located there. The Jews went for a direct violation of the UN Security Council decision, according to which Jerusalem was to become a special administrative unit under the control of the UN.

    It all started much earlier, even before World War II. Joseph Trumpeldor ...
    Further, the Arabs rejected the resolution on the division of Palestine into a Jewish and an Arab state. Until now, they have not accepted it. The Jews agreed with the resolution, but the Arabs did not want to create their own state. The "Palestinian people" was first thought up as early as 1964.
    The UN did not take control of Jerusalem and for 2 years there was also a municipal mess. When the Jews got tired of the mess with housing and communal services and anarchy, but in 1949 Israel took control of Jerusalem.

    In fact, Jerusalem became Israeli, but legally it remained nobody's.

    Jerusalem legally became Israeli in the same 1949 when Israel declared it its capital. By the way, this fact is officially recognized by the Russian Federation.

    In fact, the number of street crimes of Arabs and Jews is quite comparable.

    In fact, the author does not have official statistics, otherwise he would not have written this. The crime rate in the Arab sector is much higher than in the Jewish one. This is what the Arab Knesset members are complaining about.
    1. Silhouette
      Silhouette 17 May 2021 08: 11
      +2
      Quote: Professor
      The "Palestinian people" was first thought up as early as 1964.

      And in what year and by whom was the "Jewish people" invented?
      1. Professor
        Professor 17 May 2021 08: 15
        +4
        Quote: Silhouette
        Quote: Professor
        The "Palestinian people" was first thought up as early as 1964.

        And in what year and by whom was the "Jewish people" invented?

        Here I am not sure, but it seems to me that Abraham was a couple of thousand years before the New Era.
        1. Silhouette
          Silhouette 17 May 2021 08: 22
          +4
          Quote: Professor
          Here i'm not sure

          Then read the real professor at the University of Jerusalem Shlomo Zanda "Who and how invented the Jewish people."
          1. Professor
            Professor 17 May 2021 08: 42
            -3
            Quote: Silhouette
            Quote: Professor
            Here i'm not sure

            Then read the real professor at the University of Jerusalem Shlomo Zanda "Who and how invented the Jewish people."

            What for? I am a REAL professor myself. laughing
            1. aszzz888
              aszzz888 17 May 2021 08: 57
              0

              Professor (Sokolov Oleg)
              Today, 08: 42
              NEW

              -1
              Quote: Silhouette
              Quote: Professor
              Here i'm not sure

              Then read the real professor at the University of Jerusalem Shlomo Zanda "Who and how invented the Jewish people."

              What for? I am a REAL professor myself. laughing
              Immediately visible!laughing laughing fool lol tongue
            2. ccsr
              ccsr 17 May 2021 13: 10
              +4
              Quote: Professor
              I am a REAL professor myself.

              This is unprovable, and the professor at VGIK was not equal in knowledge of political science to a professor at MGIMO in Soviet times. Well, there are a lot of current professors in general - so your position in Israel does not tell us anything, even if you call yourself an Israeli academician.
              1. Professor
                Professor 17 May 2021 13: 18
                +4
                Quote: ccsr
                Quote: Professor
                I am a REAL professor myself.

                This is unprovable, and the professor at VGIK was not equal in knowledge of political science to a professor at MGIMO in Soviet times. Well, there are a lot of current professors in general - so your position in Israel does not tell us anything, even if you call yourself an Israeli academician.

                It is also not provable that you are a human being and not a bot.
              2. aszzz888
                aszzz888 18 May 2021 09: 58
                0

                ccsr (ccsr)
                Yesterday, 13: 10
                NEW

                +4
                Quote: Professor
                I am a REAL professor myself.

                This is unprovable, and the professor at VGIK was not equal in knowledge of political science to a professor at MGIMO in Soviet times. Well, the current professors in general are very much divorced.so - so your position in Israel does not tell us anything, even if you call yourself an Israeli academician.
                In the underground. transitions, you can buy anything. wink Including diplomas - even a professor, even an academician ...
            3. Silhouette
              Silhouette 17 May 2021 15: 19
              -2
              Quote: Professor
              I am a REAL professor myself

              Each khandon imagines himself an airship.
            4. shrus79
              shrus79 17 May 2021 21: 51
              +4
              Why was the girl dismembered, Mr. real professor Oleg Sokolov? And how do you manage to write from the dungeons? hi
              1. Professor
                Professor 18 May 2021 09: 34
                -1
                Quote: shrus79
                Why was the girl dismembered, Mr. real professor Oleg Sokolov? And how do you manage to write from the dungeons? hi

                It was she herself, and then she threw herself into the river. bully
      2. Revolver
        Revolver 17 May 2021 08: 26
        -3
        Quote: Silhouette

        And in what year and by whom was the "Jewish people" invented?

        In 2051 BC, when the Lord informed Abraham that he was to become the ancestor of the Jewish people.
        1. ccsr
          ccsr 17 May 2021 13: 15
          +1
          Quote: Nagan
          In 2051 BC, when the Lord informed Abraham that he was to become the ancestor of the Jewish people.

          Materialists are more reasoned in this regard, and considered the Jews to be just one of the nationalities, as it is written in the TSB:
          Jews - common ethnic name (in Russian) of nationalities, historically dating back to the ancient Jews. They live in different countries with a common economic, socio-political and cultural life with the main population of these countries. The overwhelming majority of the believers in Egypt profess Judaism. Existing in the 1st millennium BC. e. the Hebrew states - the Kingdom of Israel and the Kingdom of Judah were conquered: the first - by Assyria (722 BC), the second - by Babylonia (586 BC), which marked the beginning of the resettlement of Egypt across the countries of the world (see Diaspora), especially intensified after the capture of Judea by Rome (63 BC).


          Source: http://niv.ru/doc/encyclopedia/bse/articles/4262/evrei.htm
          1. Maki Avellevich
            Maki Avellevich 18 May 2021 20: 40
            -1
            Quote: ccsr
            Materialists are more reasoned in this regard, and considered the Jews to be just one of the nationalities, as it is written in the TSB:
            Jews are the common ethnic name (in Russian) of nationalities that historically go back to the ancient Jews. They live in different countries with a common economic, socio-political and cultural life with the main population of these countries. The overwhelming majority of the believers in Egypt profess Judaism. Existing in the 1st millennium BC e. the Hebrew states - the Kingdom of Israel and the Kingdom of Judah - were conquered: the first - by Assyria (722 BC), the second - by Babylonia (586 BC), which marked the beginning of the resettlement of Egypt across the countries of the world (see Diaspora), especially intensified after the capture of Judea by Rome (63 BC).

            Jews were subdued by many powerful peoples of antiquity. but here's the catch, those strong peoples, their languages ​​and cultures have long been gone, and the people of Israel, their language and culture are flourishing.
            so who emerged victorious in a battle for survival spanning decades?
            Assyrians, Babylonians, Greeks or maybe Rome?
            1. Liam
              Liam 18 May 2021 20: 46
              +2
              Quote: Maki Avellievich
              Assyrians, Babylonians, Greeks or maybe Rome?

              Did the Greeks and Greece disappear or what? Or no less ancient Persians
              1. Maki Avellevich
                Maki Avellevich 18 May 2021 20: 56
                0
                Quote: Liam
                Did the Greeks and Greece disappear or what? Or no less ancient Persians

                did they preserve the culture, religion, the right of their forefathers from Hellas? not
                in comparison with other examples, at least their language is preserved. but they are not a continuation.
                the same is about the ancient Persians who lost themselves after the invasion of Muslims.
                1. Liam
                  Liam 18 May 2021 20: 59
                  +1
                  ))).
                  They simply provided the cultural base on which all modern Western civilization is based.
                  1. Maki Avellevich
                    Maki Avellevich 18 May 2021 21: 00
                    0
                    Quote: Liam
                    They simply provided the cultural base on which all modern Western civilization is based.

                    undoubtedly.
                    but they themselves got out of the race.
                    1. Liam
                      Liam 18 May 2021 21: 10
                      +2
                      I can parry by looking for a certain number of not the most developed tribes that have preserved thousands of years of customs and the language of their ancestors, but I will not)
                      And outstanding, for example, Jewish scientists, even the same Einstein, became what he became not thanks to the thousand-year language or the religion of his ancestors, but thanks to Western education, science and culture, at the origins of which are “plain” Greeks or “disappeared” Rome. so to speak, the Jews, fixated on their ancient language or the Talmud, did not reach such heights as that)
                      1. Maki Avellevich
                        Maki Avellevich 18 May 2021 21: 22
                        0
                        Quote: Liam
                        I can parry by looking for a certain number of not the most developed tribes that have preserved thousands of years of customs and the language of their ancestors, but I will not)

                        we are discussing great / powerful civilizations. we will leave the Bushmen alone.

                        Quote: Liam
                        And outstanding, for example, Jewish scientists, even the same Einstein, became what he became not thanks to the millennial language or religion of his ancestors, but thanks to Western education, science and culture, at the origins of which are the "unattractive" Greeks or the "disappeared" Rome. so to speak, the Jews, fixated on their ancient language or the Talmud, did not reach such heights as that)


                        Jews, as they themselves made their modest contribution to world knowledge, were his students. you are trying to divide the Jew into archaic and modernized, and he consists of both.
                        they are the sons of the ancient Book and the people, but despite this they are looking for new knowledge.
                        not all of course, not all, but still. some of them are fixated on the past, some on the future.
                        there are fools, rascals, madmen and geniuses among us. just like others.
                        the total energy of the people is sometimes higher than that of some others. there is a fee for this too.

                        Don't you find that the number of Jews in science, culture and finance is not proportional to their number per capita of the general population?
                      2. Liam
                        Liam 18 May 2021 21: 41
                        +3
                        Quote: Maki Avellievich
                        you are trying to divide the Jew into archaic and modernized

                        Quote: Maki Avellievich
                        you are trying to divide the Jew into archaic and modernized

                        I just object to your "attack" of nationalism. Proud of his nation, country and achievements is commendable and understandable. To claim exclusivity and look down on others no less deserved is too much.
                        Quote: Maki Avellievich
                        Don't you find that the number of Jews in science, culture and finance is not proportional to their number per capita of the general population?

                        I don’t find. For me, the Jew Einstein is a German scientist and I put him in the quota of the German contribution to world science, not Israel. In the same way, the Jew Fermi is the quota of Italy. And so on and so forth.

                        You focused your pride in the nation not on such achievements of its representatives or on the undoubted economic and social successes of the country, but on the antiquity of religion, language and law.
                        By the way, I doubt that the language has remained so unchanged for 2 thousand years. And I know that the modern legal system of Israel is by no means the rules of 2000 years ago (that would be obscurantism, by the way), but a jumble of European continental law, English case law, Ottoman law and some elements of Jewish and Muslim religious rules and customs. Social system, economy, democracy, for the most part borrowed from the West.
                        And successfully adapted to local conditions
                      3. Maki Avellevich
                        Maki Avellevich 18 May 2021 22: 01
                        0
                        Quote: Liam
                        By the way, I doubt that the language has remained so unchanged for 2 thousand years.

                        As you know, for a long time Hebrew was to some extent in suspended animation and it was returned to public use not long ago. the fact that even I can open the Pentateuch and understand what is written there is worth something.
                        Quote: Liam
                        the modern legal system of Israel is by no means the rules of 2000 years ago (that would be obscurantism, by the way)

                        You are certainly right. For not keeping the Sabbath, it is extremely rare to be stoned in our days. what took place in the scriptures.
                        but the foundation of Israel's laws today is precisely the Torah. and yes, a little from England and Turkey. and the folklore of our politicians.
                        Quote: Liam
                        You focused your pride in the nation not on such achievements of its representatives or on the undoubted economic and social successes of the country, but on the antiquity of religion, language and law.

                        I am proud of both the ancient stories of my people and not very ancient ones.
                        not all of these stories are commendable, but they are our past and the teacher of those who can learn.
                        Quote: Liam
                        Claiming exclusivity and looking down on others is no less tinned-overkill.

                        I agree. I was sure that I was making a diagnosis of the history of the Jewish people without trying to belittle others. it's like your child, it seems like others, but you see something special in him.
                        for example, he was always interested in Rome and was amazed at their unrivaled achievements.
                        at the same time, it is nice to know that your people, in an act of suicide, rebelled against such a powerful civilization and remained on their feet, although they gave us a light. We've been smoking for 2000 years.
                      4. Liam
                        Liam 18 May 2021 22: 13
                        +2
                        Quote: Maki Avellievich
                        nice to know that your people, in an act of suicide, rebelled against such a powerful civilization and stayed on their feet, although they gave us a light. We've been smoking for 2000 years.

                        The irony is that this most powerful empire in Istria was defeated by almost unknown tribes of which there are almost no traces)
                      5. Maki Avellevich
                        Maki Avellevich 18 May 2021 22: 18
                        +1
                        it was nice to talk to you.
                      6. Liam
                        Liam 18 May 2021 22: 20
                        +2
                        Mutually hi And all the best!
  • ccsr
    ccsr 19 May 2021 12: 27
    -2
    Quote: Maki Avellievich
    their languages ​​and cultures are long gone and the people of Israel, their language and culture are flourishing.

    The current events in Israel speak of the opposite - Judaism was unable to provide prosperity to this state, and the civil war has not subsided to this day, although with some respite in the confrontation. And do you consider this project to be prosperous? Well, well, let's see how you will "flourish" in 5-10-15 years ...
    1. Cherry Nine
      Cherry Nine 19 May 2021 12: 45
      -1
      Quote: ccsr
      And do you consider this project to be prosperous?

      Of course, I would like it better, but to be honest, it's a sin to complain. In terms of economy, almost the same level with France, 2/3 of the United States, the notorious Portugal was almost doubled. In 48, few people could believe this.
      And what has your country achieved since 48? Where is Portugal?
      Quote: ccsr
      let's see how you will "flourish" in 5-10-15 years ....

      We will see with pleasure.
      Quote: ccsr
      the civil war continues to this day,

      Well, let yourself. People are jealous, there's nothing to be done.
      1. ccsr
        ccsr 19 May 2021 13: 14
        0
        Quote: Cherry Nine
        Of course, I would like it better, but to be honest, it's a sin to complain. The economy is almost on a par with France,

        And in terms of the level of attacks on Jews and pogroms, you, too, are almost on a par with France - you can be proud of that too.
        Quote: Cherry Nine
        And what has your country achieved since 48? Where is Portugal?

        Since then, we can destroy any country in the world with the push of a button, and we do not need to curry favor with the United States, begging for economic assistance for our citizens, unlike Israel.
        And you will never get rid of this birthmark - so dream that the Arab problems will resolve themselves.
        Quote: Cherry Nine
        Well, let yourself. People are jealous, there's nothing to be done.

        How this contradicts what you said earlier about prosperity. Prosperity turns out not for all of you there - judging by the pogroms.
        1. Cherry Nine
          Cherry Nine 19 May 2021 13: 42
          +1
          Quote: ccsr
          Prosperity is not for everyone you have there

          Certainly not for everyone.
          Quote: ccsr
          Since then, we can destroy any country in the world with the push of a button.

          Nothing, little Kim puffs, tries. Soon you will be alone with him.
          Quote: ccsr
          no need to curry favor with the United States, begging for economic assistance for its citizens, unlike Israel.

          Of course you don't have to curry favor. Americans will not give money to people like you, they have already been burned how many times.
          Quote: ccsr
          And you will never get rid of this birthmark

          Why get rid of it?
          Quote: ccsr
          in terms of the level of attacks on Jews and pogroms, you are also almost equal to France

          Yes, you are right, there is something to be proud of here too. In the 40-60s, life was much more severe. At the moment, it is practically the European level.
          1. ccsr
            ccsr 19 May 2021 19: 48
            0
            Quote: Cherry Nine
            Why get rid of it?

            So the shop across the ocean may close for you - not everything is so complacent there, judging by the attacks on the Capitol.
            Quote: Cherry Nine
            Yes, you are right, there is something to be proud of here too. In the 40-60s, life was much more severe.

            And you did not live there then, so you cannot compare. Moreover, then even though the enthusiasm to create a Great Israel did not run out, but now you only dream of sausage - this is the collapse of the idea of ​​creating a normal state, since the pogroms in Israel itself began.
            By the way, in "Kommersant" there was an article about your "successes":
            The "iron dome" melts in a blue haze

            https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/4804112?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fzen.yandex.com
            Quote: Cherry Nine
            Americans like you will not give money, they have already been burned how many times.

            You do not know our country well, otherwise you would know how much foreign capital is working with us, and moreover successfully. Only Soros got burned - he was thrown where he wanted to cash in in his own manner, so he squealed after that.
            Quote: Cherry Nine
            Nothing, little Kim puffs, tries. Soon you will be alone with him.

            And you probably do not even suspect about China - they again ordered nuclear power plants for us, so there is no way without Russia.
            1. Cherry Nine
              Cherry Nine 19 May 2021 20: 51
              +1
              Quote: ccsr
              not everything is so complacent there, judging by the attacks on the Capitol.

              There was no attack on the Capitol, but there are problems, of course. Democratic administration is always a problem.
              Quote: ccsr
              So the shop across the ocean may close for you

              Well, when it closes, then we'll worry. If US aid stops, Israel will lose 10-20% of its military budget. It's a shame, of course, but it's too early to go to bed and die.
              Quote: ccsr
              And you didn't live there then, so you can't compare

              Seriously?
              Quote: ccsr
              pogroms in Israel itself began.

              Where there are now pogroms, 50 years ago, the T-62 drove.
              Quote: ccsr
              The "iron dome" melts in a blue haze

              Some lady has piled up unthinkable nonsense on a current topic.
              Quote: ccsr
              You don't know our country well, otherwise you would know how much foreign capital is working with us, and moreover successfully

              You are right, I had enough of the heat. Fools and scoundrels in the United States will never end there, even with Comrade. Stalin contrived to cooperate. Take the same Calvi.
              Quote: ccsr
              And you probably don't even suspect about China

              And what does China have to do with it? The Chinese are trying to look smarter than subjects who "can destroy any country with one button." China would like to be associated with other achievements, and is doing it quite successfully.
              Quote: ccsr
              Nuclear power plants were ordered to us again, so there is no way without Russia

              No idea where you read it. In reality, the Chinese nuclear power plant program is being done by Toshiba-Westinghouse and Areva. The stories about the start of construction of a nuclear power plant are a duplication of news from 2018. The Chinese gave Rosatom 2 or 3 objects out of several dozen. In the region, by the way, there is the Chinese Eastern Railway.
  • The comment was deleted.
  • Professor
    Professor 17 May 2021 07: 47
    +2
    It is already clear that in the current conditions the confrontation will not end without outside help. Israel is preparing a ground operation for retaliation, strikes at Hamas, and all talk about civilians, children and other old people is swept aside. If there, according to intelligence, there is something belonging to Hamas, then all means are good, and the lives of civilians are not important.

    Complete nonsense. Here is an example when the IDF calls the owner of a house in Gaza to inform that the house is empty before attacking the house from the air.


    An interesting construction turns out. On the one hand, Israel needs Jerusalem in order to remain an exclusive regional state. On the other hand, Israeli Jerusalem breaks the entire structure of international relations in which this state was created.

    There is no Judaism without Jerusalem. No politics. Pure ideology.

    If Palestine agrees with this, then for Israel it is like death. This means that no matter what is agreed at the negotiations, it will not change the situation in any way. Conflicts, wars, claims will arise.

    Match, author, materiel. Israel has accepted and implemented this resolution. The Arabs are still OFFICIALLY against the resolution. So who is it not beneficial to?

    UN? The next resolution, taking into account the attitude to these resolutions in Tel Aviv, will simply be nothing. Another "express our deep concern", no more.

    Ptamashta in Tel Aviv, Aunt Sonya. What does she decide? But the Israeli government is located in the capital recognized by Russia, but not by the author.


    The topic has not been disclosed. Article minus. negative
    The article should be placed under the heading "opinions" and not "analysts". Where is the analytics here?
    1. Silhouette
      Silhouette 17 May 2021 08: 09
      -1
      Quote: Professor
      There is no Judaism without Jerusalem. No politics. Pure ideology

      This is called Jewish fascism.
      1. Professor
        Professor 17 May 2021 08: 10
        0
        Quote: Silhouette
        Quote: Professor
        There is no Judaism without Jerusalem. No politics. Pure ideology

        This is called Jewish fascism.

        No, this is called "ordinary anti-Semitism." This is about you if you haven't guessed. hi
        1. Silhouette
          Silhouette 17 May 2021 08: 16
          +1
          Hanging cheap labels on your opponent is not the most worthy method. Although quite worked out.
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 17 May 2021 08: 36
            0
            You hung them yourself first.
            1. The comment was deleted.
              1. The comment was deleted.
                1. The comment was deleted.
          2. The comment was deleted.
            1. The comment was deleted.
              1. The comment was deleted.
                1. The comment was deleted.
            2. bk0010
              bk0010 17 May 2021 11: 37
              +1
              Quote: Professor
              But a normal person at least would not care whether Israel was created or not. It is a tragedy only for anti-Semites.
              For the anti-Semites this is good: the Jews have left and now they are the problem of the Arabs. Here they have a complete consensus with the Zionists.
              1. DED_peer_DED
                DED_peer_DED 17 May 2021 13: 16
                +2
                Jews left

                Did I miss something while sleeping tonight?
                1. bk0010
                  bk0010 17 May 2021 15: 49
                  0
                  Quote: DED_peer_DED
                  Did I miss something while sleeping tonight?
                  No, no, sleep well, nothing has changed. I just decided to argue.
              2. Cherry Nine
                Cherry Nine 19 May 2021 01: 30
                0
                Quote: bk0010
                This is good for anti-Semites: Jews have left and now they are the problem of Arabs

                Hitler was a Zionist. Unfortunately for everyone, the British managed to torpedo the idea.
            3. Cherry Nine
              Cherry Nine 19 May 2021 01: 29
              0
              Quote: Professor
              It is a tragedy only for anti-Semites.

              And for American Jews of progressive views.
    2. Revolver
      Revolver 17 May 2021 08: 28
      +2
      Quote: Professor
      Where is the analytics here?

      [b] anal[/ b] itics
    3. Okolotochny
      Okolotochny 17 May 2021 09: 37
      +5
      Complete nonsense. Here is an example when the IDF calls the owner of a house in Gaza to inform that the house is empty before attacking the house from the air.

      What's the point of attacking an empty house? No sarcasm, but for the sake of understanding. What's the point of attacking if there are no militants there?
      1. Professor
        Professor 17 May 2021 09: 42
        -3
        Quote: Okolotochny
        Complete nonsense. Here is an example when the IDF calls the owner of a house in Gaza to inform that the house is empty before attacking the house from the air.

        What's the point of attacking an empty house? No sarcasm, but for the sake of understanding. What's the point of attacking if there are no militants there?

        1. For militants, the more their fellow citizens die, the better.
        2. Infrastructure is a valuable resource for militants.
        3. Israel does not need sacrifices among the Fylystyn peace dwellers. See point 1.
        1. Okolotochny
          Okolotochny 17 May 2021 09: 49
          +10
          2. Infrastructure is a valuable resource for militants.

          Residential buildings? Well, destroy residential buildings. Where will people go? It is possible that some of them will join Hamas for revenge. And a vicious circle.
          1. Professor
            Professor 17 May 2021 09: 53
            -4
            Quote: Okolotochny
            2. Infrastructure is a valuable resource for militants.

            Residential buildings? Well, destroy residential buildings. Where will people go? It is possible that some of them will join Hamas for revenge. And a vicious circle.

            Residential buildings are not touched by anyone. Hamas infrastructure is being destroyed.
            "People" next time will not place Hamas ammunition dumps in their homes.
            1. Okolotochny
              Okolotochny 17 May 2021 10: 07
              +7
              Residential buildings are not touched by anyone.

              Here is an example when the Tsakhal calls the owner at home. in Gaza, be notified that the house is empty before attacking the house from the air.

              "People" next time will not place Hamas ammunition dumps in their homes.
              Are you seriously sure about this? What kind of shelling are these?
              1. Professor
                Professor 17 May 2021 10: 09
                -5
                Quote: Okolotochny
                Residential buildings are not touched by anyone.

                Here is an example when the Tsakhal calls the owner at home. in Gaza, be notified that the house is empty before attacking the house from the air.

                "People" next time will not place Hamas ammunition dumps in their homes.
                Are you seriously sure about this? What kind of shelling are these?

                Are you sure that cooperation with Hamas is unprofitable? Yes I am sure. And this person in the mask is now also sure.
                1. Okolotochny
                  Okolotochny 17 May 2021 10: 25
                  +1
                  Yes I am sure. And this person in the mask is now also sure.

                  Professor, well, you live there and cook in this cauldron)) No need to go out in public for a word of mouth. "This music will be eternal." As long as Hamas has funding, this will continue. Whoever has the loot drives. And they do not care about the destroyed houses, fanatics will increase even more in the fight against you. Where does Hamas get its money from? You have to beat the channels, the sources. And move settlements away from your cities. What are you doing with the destruction of houses)) Can you cut off their electricity, gas supply? Why don't you do this? It would be more effective.
                  1. Professor
                    Professor 17 May 2021 10: 38
                    +3
                    Quote: Okolotochny
                    Professor, well, you live there and cook in this cauldron)) No need to go out in public for a word of mouth. "This music will be eternal." As long as Hamas has funding, this will continue. Whoever has the loot drives. And they do not care about the destroyed houses, fanatics will increase even more in the fight against you.

                    No, don't give a damn. All this costs money, and their war is pure business.

                    Quote: Okolotochny
                    Where does Hamas get its money from? You have to beat the channels, the sources.

                    Bomb Iran?

                    Quote: Okolotochny
                    And move settlements away from your cities. What are you doing with the destruction of houses))

                    No, we don't hit the first house that comes across, and where should we move it away? In the sea?

                    Quote: Okolotochny
                    You can cut off their electricity, gas supply? Why don't you do this? It would be more effective.

                    Can not. The ICC immediately begins to regard this as genocide. Read the press. And we ourselves do not want to see there mountains of corpses from hunger.
                    1. Okolotochny
                      Okolotochny 17 May 2021 11: 45
                      +1
                      The ICC immediately begins to regard this as genocide.

                      Yes, you are already sending it. Send it again.
                      Bomb Iran?

                      Is Hamas financed by Iran? It seems like Sunita. Not Qatar?
                      1. Professor
                        Professor 17 May 2021 12: 41
                        -2
                        Quote: Okolotochny
                        Yes, you are already sending it. Send it again.

                        We never sent it, and we never sent anyone. We do not live in a gang, but in the international community.

                        Quote: Okolotochny
                        Is Hamas financed by Iran? It seems like Sunita. Not Qatar?

                        When it comes to Israel, they suddenly forget who is who. (Karin A)
                    2. Cherry Nine
                      Cherry Nine 19 May 2021 01: 41
                      0
                      Quote: Professor
                      Bomb Iran?

                      Now it is too late to drink Borjomi, for 4 years the most pro-Israeli administration of the United States in my memory was in power. What has been done financially?
                      Quote: Professor
                      and where to move? In the sea?

                      That is, the solution is so-so.
                      Quote: Professor
                      The ICC immediately begins to regard this as genocide.

                      You never know what the ICC begins. Israel recognizes its jurisdiction? By the way, the Chairman of the ICC is a prominent Nigerian lawyer, Mr. Eboi-Osuji. Who in the whole world can take such structures seriously?
                      Quote: Professor
                      we do not want to see there mountains of corpses from hunger.

                      Yes? And why?
                      1. A. Privalov
                        A. Privalov 19 May 2021 06: 41
                        0
                        Quote: Cherry Nine
                        Yes? And why?

                        You perfectly understand that a piece of land 10x35 can be rolled up very quickly and not expensively with asphalt. But there, in addition to 40 thousand Hamas and Islamic Jihad militants, live one and a half million people brought by the scoundrels to complete redemption and despair of innocent residents. Why are they?
                      2. Cherry Nine
                        Cherry Nine 19 May 2021 07: 59
                        0
                        Quote: A. Privalov
                        In addition to 40 thousand Hamas and Islamic Jihad militants, there are a million and a half who have been driven to complete death and despair by the scoundrels of innocent residents.

                        To Lebanon. Although I would try to send the maximum to the European Union, it would be fair, especially those 40 thousand.
                        Quote: A. Privalov
                        Of course, in such conditions, civilian casualties are inevitable.

                        That is, the victims are partially or mainly peaceful, indirect damage. And why, instead of random people, or at least together with random people, the guilty do not suffer?
                        Quote: A. Privalov
                        They are Arab citizens of Israel

                        So what? Is this some kind of indulgence? Is Yigal Amir the other way around?
                        Quote: A. Privalov
                        Several people have died as a result of Arab riots in mixed cities and Jewish retaliation.

                        And what a disgrace this is? How did it happen that in a country with a 100% conscription, militiamen do not go out to line up in flocks, with heavy weapons up to mortars inclusive, but go to smash Arab shops? And what kind of nonsense to smash the shops? Is there, I don’t know, a trade union house in Lod?
                      3. A. Privalov
                        A. Privalov 19 May 2021 08: 31
                        -1
                        Quote: Cherry Nine
                        Quote: A. Privalov
                        In addition to 40 thousand Hamas and Islamic Jihad militants, there are a million and a half who have been driven to complete death and despair by the scoundrels of innocent residents.

                        To Lebanon. Although I would try to send the maximum to the European Union, it would be fair, especially those 40 thousand.
                        Quote: A. Privalov
                        Of course, in such conditions, civilian casualties are inevitable.

                        That is, the victims are partially or mainly peaceful, indirect damage. And why, instead of random people, or at least together with random people, the guilty do not suffer?
                        Quote: A. Privalov
                        They are Arab citizens of Israel

                        So what? Is this some kind of indulgence? Is Yigal Amir the other way around?
                        Quote: A. Privalov
                        Several people have died as a result of Arab riots in mixed cities and Jewish retaliation.

                        And what a disgrace this is? How did it happen that in a country with a 100% conscription, militiamen do not go out to line up in flocks, with heavy weapons up to mortars inclusive, but go to smash Arab shops? And what kind of nonsense to smash the shops? Is there, I don’t know, a trade union house in Lod?

                        We reap the fruits of our liberalism, political correctness, democracy, and other goodness. fool
                      4. Cherry Nine
                        Cherry Nine 19 May 2021 09: 02
                        0
                        Well, you underestimate democracy a little, and in general it is a sin for the Israelis to complain about the left - the left created a Jewish state, rarely when they managed to do something absolutely good.
                        And about everything else - what happened is gone. How are you doing now? Here, I read that in the same Lod the victims of Zionism were taken by buses, these are not local. Who paid for the buses? Why is he alive / free?
                        What's wrong with the right in Israel, by the way? Pryperetsya at the most unfortunate moment in the most unfortunate place - this is the only thing that they, in principle, can do? The same idea that reservists keep weapons and ammunition at home, and on the whistle are lined up to defend their area for 15 minutes - is it even on the agenda?
                      5. A. Privalov
                        A. Privalov 19 May 2021 09: 22
                        -1
                        Quote: Cherry Nine
                        Well, you underestimate democracy a little, and in general it is a sin for the Israelis to complain about the left - the left created a Jewish state, rarely when they managed to do something absolutely good.
                        And about everything else - what happened is gone. How are you doing now? Here, I read that in the same Lod the victims of Zionism were taken by buses, these are not local. Who paid for the buses? Why is he alive / free?
                        What's wrong with the right in Israel, by the way? Pryperetsya at the most unfortunate moment in the most unfortunate place - this is the only thing that they, in principle, can do? The same idea that reservists keep weapons and ammunition at home, and on the whistle are lined up to defend their area for 15 minutes - is it even on the agenda?

                        1. For more than thirty years of my life in Israel, and I came there, by no means a child - I know well and can evaluate the local form of democracy.
                        2. Having created Israel, the left can be considered very conditionally.
                        3. There was no need to carry anyone to Lod. There is a mixed population.
                        Even if you come to the office to order a bus, no one will ask you why you are doing this and will not require identity documents. Pay and be healthy, enjoy our service. This is democracy and freedom. I think there is no need to tell how these good things can be used for bad purposes.
                        4. It's good with the right in Israel. Here, without right, bad.
                        5. The reservists do not store weapons at home and do not defend "their area" either with a whistle or without it. They are called by the order of the Ministry of Defense in the necessary, in his opinion, cases and quantities.
                      6. Cherry Nine
                        Cherry Nine 19 May 2021 09: 53
                        0
                        Quote: A. Privalov
                        I know and can appreciate the local form of democracy.

                        )))
                        Democracy, of course, is peculiar, but you understand that "Am Echad, Medina Ahat, Manhig Echad" is a bad option. And the transition to a two-party system is clearly impossible so far.
                        Quote: A. Privalov
                        left can be considered very conditionally.

                        Long talk.
                        Quote: A. Privalov
                        There is a mixed population.

                        A mixed population is not always eager to smash its own neighbors. They will be caught. It doesn't hurt to throw some firewood here.
                        Quote: A. Privalov
                        Pay and be healthy

                        Cash? Bitcoin? I see that you do not have much respect for the Israeli special services.
                        Quote: A. Privalov
                        It's good with the right in Israel.

                        And what does the right say? Occupy Gaza again? Again?
                        Quote: A. Privalov
                        The reservists do not store weapons at home and do not defend "their area" either with a whistle or without it

                        That's it. And why? Does the government distrust its own voters or what? Can you imagine a Jewish pogrom in an area with two M4s in each window? And in the synagogue there are two?
                        At one time, he was unpleasantly amazed when he learned that the Israeli government likes to take weapons from its own. It seems that someone stabbed someone with the state of the Jews.
  • Revolver
    Revolver 17 May 2021 19: 31
    0
    Quote: Professor
    "People" next time will not place Hamas ammunition dumps in their homes.

    Well, it's fair to say that Hamas usually doesn't ask permission. That does not negate the necessity and legality of these warehouses to destroy.
  • DED_peer_DED
    DED_peer_DED 17 May 2021 13: 19
    -6
    1. For militants, the more their fellow citizens die, the better.

    This is better for your brother than the bigger mess in the world.
    Are you waiting for your king, who will settle everything as you wish?
    And a mess, as an excuse for his appearance, the future king of all nations in the temple of Jerusalem.
    1. DED_peer_DED
      DED_peer_DED 17 May 2021 13: 47
      0

      In all events, everywhere ... Look at the root, brother, who needs it more. (not (C)).
      1. Revolver
        Revolver 17 May 2021 19: 34
        0
        Finally, the rabbits do not care tops or roots, they devour everything.lol
        1. DED_peer_DED
          DED_peer_DED 17 May 2021 19: 46
          0
          Quote: Nagan
          Finally, the rabbits do not care tops or roots, they eat everything

          This is an abstraction of thought.
          Fable.
          Where the animals are human.
          Or vice versa.
          1. Revolver
            Revolver 17 May 2021 19: 53
            -1
            And I have these rabbits regularly run into the site, and eat EVERYTHING! Both vegetables and flowers. And trample the beds. And squirrels have never allowed us to harvest peaches, although the tree is about 20 years old. They come in a crowd and gnaw before anything ripens. These squirrel rabbits are cute only until it turns out that they are the same rats.
            1. DED_peer_DED
              DED_peer_DED 17 May 2021 19: 58
              0
              Quote: Nagan
              And I have these rabbits regularly run into the site, and eat EVERYTHING! Both vegetables and flowers. And trample the beds. And the squirrels have never allowed us to harvest peaches yet.


              Looks like it?
              1. Revolver
                Revolver 17 May 2021 20: 00
                0
                Quote: DED_peer_DED
                Quote: Nagan
                And I have these rabbits regularly run into the site, and eat EVERYTHING! Both vegetables and flowers. And trample the beds. And the squirrels have never allowed us to harvest peaches yet.


                Looks like it?

                I do not identify. Is it a rabbit or a squirrel?
                1. DED_peer_DED
                  DED_peer_DED 17 May 2021 20: 03
                  -1
                  Quote: Nagan
                  I do not identify. Is it a rabbit or a squirrel?

                  This is how someone will "come".
                  They used to say that not by the passport, but by the muzzle ...
  • Silhouette
    Silhouette 17 May 2021 08: 06
    -3
    The creation of the State of Israel was the greatest political mistake of the 20th century and was an example of what should not be done under any circumstances and on "historical" grounds. History cannot be reversed and a prosperous kingdom cannot be restored, but an "unsolvable problem" is generated. In fact, there is a solution - and everyone in Israel understands and approves of it - the complete destruction of the Palestinian people in the territories conquered by Israel. Which, however, was already in the history of Judea with the Canaanites. This has been happening for several years now. Israel will never allow the implementation of UN decisions on the creation of a Palestinian state.
    1. And Us Rat
      And Us Rat 17 May 2021 20: 22
      -2
      Quote: Silhouette
      a prosperous kingdom cannot be restored

      Challenging accomplished reality, this is a difficult case. wassat
      1. Silhouette
        Silhouette 17 May 2021 21: 02
        -2
        No need to substitute concepts. I evaluate specific political decisions and their consequences. Israel has become a headache for the whole world from its inception to the present day. For 60 years the world has been shaking from him and there is no end to it. And its prospects are the most gloomy. It only gets worse every year. The degree of cruelty increases from year to year.
        1. And Us Rat
          And Us Rat 17 May 2021 21: 36
          +1
          Quote: Silhouette
          the headache of the whole world

          A pretentious cliché that has no substance.
          Like baker François from Marseilles or programmer Miko from Nagasaki, is Israel getting in the way of life?

          Quote: Silhouette
          60 years the world has been shaking from him

          Firstly 70+, and secondly - will there be examples, or again zilch?

          Quote: Silhouette
          It only gets worse every year.

          Maybe you have, I don't know. Israel is developing steadily, getting richer and getting stronger. The standard of living is growing, and safety in absolute terms is also increasing. The difference between 1990 and 2021 (what I myself observe) is astronomical.

          Quote: Silhouette
          The degree of cruelty increases from year to year.

          Yeah, everything increases, it increases, it doesn't increase in any way. (Sounds like the rotting west mantra wassat)
          This degree, in theory, should have already reached the singularity, back in the last century. wassat
          By God, due to the lack of logic in the comments, you can compete with Meehan. But Meehan is funny and you are evil. I can feel straight with my skin how it hurts you from the desire to sting. recourse
  • Boris55
    Boris55 17 May 2021 08: 50
    +2
    Quote: A. Staver
    Sometimes the question arises as to why this myth was also widespread in the USSR?

    The peoples in the USSR understood perfectly well with whom they fought in the Second World War and who led this whole flock of tower dogs of the West. This was not a myth - it was a fact. Who is in charge is to blame.

    Today, some people think that it is possible to reach an agreement with individual Western countries - this is not so, they are still united in their hatred of us. As before, they all together celebrate May 8 in memory of their fallen relatives who came to our land to kill and plunder. They still regret that they failed to enslave us then.

    The Israelis prefer to fence themselves off with fences and do not even try to fate the opinion of their neighbors - so they decided so, and do not give a damn about the opinion of the rest. They are unable to integrate, and most importantly, to integrate themselves.

    The future of the World is in the construction of the World (a little more than 200 countries) according to the principle of Russia, where ~200 nationalities live in peace and harmony. Russian Jews in Russia (assimilated) were able to establish the peaceful life of many peoples and many confessions in one country. The structure of Russia is the future of planet Earth, where any outstanding person, from any clan-tribe, can take a worthy position in society, regardless of his nation (as an example, at different times and in different eras - Bagration, Stalin, Shoigu). This is our difference and our advantage of the Russian civilization over the civilizations of the West and the East.
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 17 May 2021 09: 06
      +7
      Dreams of globalists and Soros personally. By the way, a Jew. Now you can call me an anti-Semite, but if Soros had been taken to Auschwitz instead of any other Jew, the world would have been better today.
      1. Boris55
        Boris55 17 May 2021 09: 12
        +4
        Quote: Nagan
        if Soros were taken to Auschwitz instead of any other Jew, the world would be a better place today

        Instead of a person with the surname Soros, I would have found exactly the same, but with a different one.
        There is a Biblical concept and it doesn't matter who promotes it. Bankers (money) is only a tool for promoting it.

        Bible Quotes:

        “Give your brother neither silver, nor bread, nor anything else that can be given for growth; Give to a foreigner in growth, so that your Lord your God will bless you in everything that is done by your hands on earth, which you go to own it. " - Deuteronomy 23:19, 20.

        "AND you will rule over many nationsand they will not rule over you ”- Deuteronomy 28:12.

        “Then the sons of strangers will build your walls and their kings will serve you; for in my anger I struck you, but in my favor I will be merciful to you. And your gates will be opened, they will not be closed either day or night, so that there the heritage of the peoples is brought to you and their kings were brought. For nations and kingdoms that do not want to serve you will perish, and such nations will be completely destroyed ”- Isaiah, 60:10 - 12.
      2. DED_peer_DED
        DED_peer_DED 17 May 2021 13: 26
        +1
        Quote: Nagan
        if Soros had been taken to Auschwitz instead of any other Jew, the world would be a better place today.

        Another would be put in his place. Just think, the problem ...
    2. A. Privalov
      A. Privalov 17 May 2021 09: 13
      +1
      Quote: Boris55
      The future of the World is in the construction of the World (slightly more than 200 countries) according to the principle of Russia, where ~ 200 nationalities live in peace and harmony. Russian Jews in Russia were able to establish a peaceful life for many peoples and many confessions in one country. The structure of Russia is the future of planet Earth, where any outstanding person, from any clan-tribe, can take a worthy position in society, regardless of his nation (as an example, at different times and in different eras - Bagration, Stalin, Shoigu). This is the advantage of the Russian civilization over the civilizations of the West and the East.

      Almost broke into a tear. crying
      1. Boris55
        Boris55 17 May 2021 09: 17
        +5
        Quote: A. Privalov
        Almost broke into a tear.

        Can you offer the World another way of peaceful coexistence?
        1. A. Privalov
          A. Privalov 17 May 2021 09: 34
          +3
          Quote: Boris55
          Can you offer the World another way of peaceful coexistence?

          I can not.
          But the World does not ask me about this, in fact, like you, alas ...

          As for "peace and harmony" in Russia, how not to jinx it.
          Hotbeds of tension in Russia are maturing in Tatarstan and the Transcaucasus and on the border with Ukraine. The presence of three million Muslims in Moscow is also doing its job. How "national outskirts" can blaze in one second, I know for sure.

          In 88, in Sumgait, I practically felt the fruits of the "peaceful coexistence" of peoples in the USSR.
          By chance I was there at that moment on a business trip from Nefteprommash.
          An unforgettable experience, I will tell you ...
          Of course, the time has flown by, the USSR in the past, and Sumgait in a completely different country. But in general, people have not changed for the better over the years, on the contrary ... So, God save you from national cataclysms. hi
          1. Boris55
            Boris55 17 May 2021 09: 44
            0
            Quote: A. Privalov
            Hotbeds of tension in Russia are maturing in Tatarstan and the Transcaucasus and on the border with Ukraine.

            If they are not warmed up, then they will not mature, but for now, on May 9, two wreaths in the form of two eights, meaning Heil Hitler, are brought to the grave of the unknown soldier - everything is possible.
            1. A. Privalov
              A. Privalov 17 May 2021 09: 50
              0
              Quote: Boris55
              Quote: A. Privalov
              Hotbeds of tension in Russia are maturing in Tatarstan and the Transcaucasus and on the border with Ukraine.

              If they are not warmed up, then they will not mature, but for now, on May 9, two wreaths in the form of two eights, meaning Heil Hitler, are brought to the grave of the unknown soldier - everything is possible.

              Is it the Jews of the Muslims in Tatarstan and Moscow that are heating up?
              Maybe they are the ones who wear such wreaths to the grave?
              1. Boris55
                Boris55 17 May 2021 09: 59
                +4
                Quote: A. Privalov
                Maybe they are the ones who wear such wreaths to the grave.

                The confrontation of civilizations is not conditioned by a specific nation - Jews or fascists.

                The Kremlin protocol service (Vaino, Kireenko) slipped such wreaths to the president.
                The management is still full of Western henchmen. If they take over the control of the country, then 90 will seem like a harmless prank ... We already have about 2000 problematic interregional, interregional border delimitations. If the disintegration of Russia begins, we will all wash ourselves in blood, trouble will not bypass anyone.
                1. The comment was deleted.
              2. Novichek)
                Novichek) 17 May 2021 22: 16
                -4
                ".. hotbeds of tension ..." ?? Look how it sows confusion! Where, what is the tension? Facts in the studio! Wishful thinking? For provocateurs like you, in Russia, if not in the know, there is an article of the Criminal Code for extremism
                1. A. Privalov
                  A. Privalov 17 May 2021 23: 08
                  +1
                  Quote: Novichek)
                  ".. hotbeds of tension ..." ?? Look how it sows confusion! Where, what is the tension? Facts in the studio! Wishful thinking? For provocateurs like you, in Russia, if not in the know, there is an article of the Criminal Code for extremism

                  I don’t need to threaten, sir. Control yourself and be decorous. I didn't want to get involved in this topic. These are not my problems, but if you want facts, if you please.
                  On the territory of Tatarstan, about a hundred crimes of an extremist and terrorist nature are committed annually, and the persons participating in this are identified and brought to justice. This was announced by the Minister of Internal Affairs for Tatarstan Artem Khokhorin. The extremist religious organization Tablighi Jamaat (banned in the Russian Federation) operates there, the minister notes. A criminal case was also initiated against two leaders of the international terrorist organization Hizb ut-Tahrir al-Islami (banned in the Russian Federation), who were in charge of its interregional structures in Russia.
          2. DED_peer_DED
            DED_peer_DED 17 May 2021 13: 29
            -5
            Quote: A. Privalov
            Hotbeds of tension in Russia are maturing in Tatarstan and the Transcaucasus and on the border with Ukraine. The presence of three million Muslims in Moscow is also doing its job. How "national outskirts" can blaze in one second, I know for sure.

            Working on it, brothers. Calibrate.
        2. Essex62
          Essex62 17 May 2021 10: 15
          +2
          No, they cannot, Boris, they are nationalists and individualists. Mine, do not touch, this is a Jewish invention. Capitalism was invented by the Jews and promoted into the world, with the help of the unscrupulous predators of the Anglo-Saxons, merging with them.
          1. Boris55
            Boris55 17 May 2021 11: 32
            +1
            Quote: Essex62
            they cannot, they are nationalists and individualists.

            The reason for their behavior lies in the Holocaust, which constantly reminds every Jew what "cutting off dry branches" is (Israel's 1st President Weizmann about Jews in concentration camps), assimilated Jews with aborigines were destroyed in concentration camps, the rest were taken out ... Fear of another Holocaust makes them live apart.
            1. DED_peer_DED
              DED_peer_DED 17 May 2021 13: 31
              -2
              Fear of another holocaust makes them live apart.

              Nope.
              They only consider themselves people. Therefore.
              1. Revolver
                Revolver 17 May 2021 19: 37
                +3
                Quote: DED_peer_DED
                They only consider themselves people.

                Do you think Jews are people? Or...
                1. DED_peer_DED
                  DED_peer_DED 17 May 2021 19: 43
                  +1
                  Quote: Nagan
                  Do you think Jews are people?

                  I consider it people.
                  Others are sometimes even weirder.
                  But in the organization, in unity, in their society, they are, of course, a separate topic.
          2. IS-80_RVGK2
            IS-80_RVGK2 17 May 2021 21: 19
            0
            Quote: Essex62
            Capitalism was invented by the Jews

            This is certainly strong. I already had a sandwich out of my hand.
      2. DED_peer_DED
        DED_peer_DED 17 May 2021 13: 27
        -2
        Quote: A. Privalov
        I almost broke into a tear

        Sprinkle some tap water on your face. Add realism.
        1. Essex62
          Essex62 17 May 2021 17: 12
          +2
          You know, I have a twofold attitude towards Jews. Here is my grandfather, according to his story, a Jewish political instructor saved his plane with his Yak. But I also had to communicate with other types personally, and in different socio-political periods of the country. The impressions are negative. So, it's not easy to decide.
          Take at least Makarevich, not a coward, a diver, swims with sharks, writes not bad music, and put his hand to the collapse of the Union, like all tsoi, and now yapping at Russia. About aligarhat generally keep quiet, enemies.
          1. DED_peer_DED
            DED_peer_DED 17 May 2021 17: 50
            +1
            Quote: Essex62
            You know, I have a twofold attitude towards Jews.

            I know.
            It's the same for me.
            In our time, there were such Soviet Jews. Ours according to the concepts and conscience, but categorically not THEM, according to their "concepts". Now there are Russian Jews. There are baptized people who truly believe in Christ God. But the percentage, of course, is purely statistical.
            According to Makarevich (the hand did not want to include the upper case above the first letter of his last name).
            During the years of the USSR, I myself was a little ... I entered the Komsomol in the 10th grade, the last in school.
            But during the "heyday" of Makarevich and his group of persons, he could not stand him, for which he was repeatedly collectively condemned while studying at a technical school and living in a hostel. Well, I could not believe in his "truth", even at an inexperienced young age.
            Later I realized why.
            1. Essex62
              Essex62 17 May 2021 20: 11
              0
              So it was true, it was theirs. They strangled sedition in the Union, only when Lena was half-dead, sluggishly and reluctantly, stupidly. Now they are fattening, the fighters against the regime. And the majority are in the ass, and many of those who condemned you comrade, are now trying to catch the elbow unsuccessfully.
              1. DED_peer_DED
                DED_peer_DED 17 May 2021 20: 36
                +1
                In 1991. When Eltsin got on the tank, I almost got into a fight (I'm not violent) with a friend, they separated us.
                I said that these "new" ones will be worse than the "old" ones.
                It took 10 years and I met that "friend".
                I asked about his attitude to Eltsin.
                As he began to drive at him, obscenely.
                I told him: "Don't you remember how we almost got into a fight on the topic of" new democrats "in 1991?"
                No, he says, I don’t remember, and this could not be.
                That's it.
    3. Professor
      Professor 17 May 2021 09: 45
      -7
      Quote: Boris55
      The future of the World is in the construction of the World (slightly more than 200 countries) according to the principle of Russia, where ~ 200 nationalities live in peace and harmony

      -Vovochka, why are you crying?
      -I want to the USSR RF, Mar'vanna.
      1. Boris55
        Boris55 17 May 2021 09: 47
        +5
        Quote: Professor
        -I want to go to the USSR, RF, Mar'vanna.

        - Little Johnny, what kind of USSR do you want: Trotsky, Stalin, Khrushchev-Brezhnev or Gorbachev?
        1. DED_peer_DED
          DED_peer_DED 17 May 2021 13: 32
          +1
          - Little Johnny, and in which USSR do you want: Trotsky

          Entot, of course. Everything was counted on him, but something went wrong ...
          1. Essex62
            Essex62 17 May 2021 17: 33
            0
            Bronstein's USSR was not possible in principle. The Russian people are not suicidal, they quickly realized what was happening and the Russian Georgian closed the issue. We even abstained later, when we had the maximum opportunity to push the backbones behind a puddle. The losses were found not to be acceptable. Lyova would not miss taking advantage of it. An adventurer, a genius like the Buanaparty, but he ended up just as badly.
            1. DED_peer_DED
              DED_peer_DED 17 May 2021 17: 37
              -2
              Quote: Essex62
              An adventurer, a genius like the Buanaparty, but he ended up just as badly.

              The Jews by blood have the largest percentage of geniuses and madmen. True, it was also calculated by them laughing
              1. Essex62
                Essex62 17 May 2021 17: 41
                -1
                To be objective, it looks like the truth. What period do not take, in which country do not look everywhere they are pinched and beaten. Here, involuntarily, you will become the most laughing
                1. DED_peer_DED
                  DED_peer_DED 17 May 2021 17: 53
                  0
                  Quote: Essex62
                  What period do not take, in which country do not look everywhere they are pinched and beaten. Here, involuntarily, you will become the most

                  Even before this period they were the most - the most. So it has nothing to do with oppression.
                  1. Essex62
                    Essex62 17 May 2021 20: 01
                    -1
                    It is when? More from the former extinct earthly civilization? Last, penultimate laughing
                    1. DED_peer_DED
                      DED_peer_DED 17 May 2021 20: 38
                      -1
                      Quote: Essex62
                      It is when? More from the former extinct earthly civilization? Last, penultimate

                      That is not.
                      Christ is already more than 2000 years old, and the Jews were already under the control of the Roman Empire for their harmfulness.
      2. IS-80_RVGK2
        IS-80_RVGK2 17 May 2021 21: 30
        0
        Do you know Professor, these three thousand missiles that the wild Palestinians have fired at you are just the result of the collapse of the USSR. The consequence of the fact that the reaction won and mankind did not manage to move to the new OEF. So your humor is a little silly.
        1. Maki Avellevich
          Maki Avellevich 18 May 2021 20: 47
          0
          Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
          Do you know Professor, these three thousand missiles that were fired at you by the wild Palestinians are just the same consequence of the collapse of the USSR.

          more like the consequences of original sin or the murder of Abel at worst.
          Think small.
          1. IS-80_RVGK2
            IS-80_RVGK2 18 May 2021 21: 33
            0
            You didn’t come out as funny as the Professor.
            1. Maki Avellevich
              Maki Avellevich 18 May 2021 21: 35
              0
              Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
              You didn’t come out as funny as the Professor.

              excuse me, not a jester.
              recognizing that yours is much funnier.
              1. IS-80_RVGK2
                IS-80_RVGK2 18 May 2021 21: 43
                0
                Quote: Maki Avellievich
                sorry, not a joke, sir

                Will not forgive.
                Quote: Maki Avellievich
                recognizing that yours is much funnier.

                Is there a good grass harvest in Israel?
          2. Cherry Nine
            Cherry Nine 19 May 2021 01: 48
            0
            Quote: Maki Avellievich
            Think small.

            No, everything is correct. If the USSR were alive, there would be no samovar rockets, but some tanks, from some side, as many times before.
            1. Maki Avellevich
              Maki Avellevich 19 May 2021 06: 30
              -1
              Quote: Cherry Nine
              No, everything is correct. If the USSR were alive, there would be no samovar rockets, but some tanks, from some side, as many times before.

              most probably. and most likely the same btl would be the result, new trophies.
              1. Cherry Nine
                Cherry Nine 19 May 2021 07: 44
                0
                Quote: Maki Avellievich
                most likely the same btl would be the result

                Well, this is no longer a demand from the USSR.
    4. And Us Rat
      And Us Rat 17 May 2021 20: 28
      -3
      Quote: Boris55
      This is our difference and our advantage of the Russian civilization over the civilizations of the West and the East.

      If you replace the word "Russian" with "Aryan", it immediately smelled familiar, everyone noticed? belay
      1. bk0010
        bk0010 17 May 2021 21: 37
        0
        Quote: And Us Rat
        If you replace the word "Russian" with "Aryan", it immediately smelled familiar, everyone noticed?
        Let's try:
        This is our difference and our advantage of the Aryan civilization over the civilizations of the West and the East.
        No, it's okay. Do you think that only you can have benefits?
        1. And Us Rat
          And Us Rat 17 May 2021 21: 40
          0
          Quote: bk0010
          No, it's okay ...

          For an admirer of Wehrmacht soldiers, perhaps, but not for normal people. No.
          1. bk0010
            bk0010 17 May 2021 21: 40
            -1
            Quote: And Us Rat
            For an admirer of Wehrmacht soldiers, perhaps, but not for normal people.
            Well, justify.
            1. And Us Rat
              And Us Rat 17 May 2021 22: 22
              -3
              Quote: bk0010
              justify

              Easily. The Nazis in the same way opposed themselves to other peoples and declared their superiority over them. Exactly the same turns of speech.
              1. bk0010
                bk0010 17 May 2021 22: 24
                0
                Quote: And Us Rat
                Easily. The Nazis in the same way opposed themselves to other peoples and declared their superiority over them. Exactly the same turns of speech
                And of course you have examples?
                1. And Us Rat
                  And Us Rat 17 May 2021 22: 34
                  -2
                  Open Mein Kampf, it's the same there. fellow
                  1. bk0010
                    bk0010 17 May 2021 22: 51
                    +2
                    Quote: And Us Rat
                    Mein Kampf
                    You know, we have a problem with that. This book is not a desktop book in Russia, there is nothing to open.
                    1. And Us Rat
                      And Us Rat 18 May 2021 02: 13
                      -3
                      Quote: bk0010
                      This book is not a desktop book in Russia, there is nothing to open.

                      Apparently this Boris55 is. And "55" in his nickname is a veiled SS symbol.
              2. Essex62
                Essex62 18 May 2021 08: 29
                -1
                Remind you who destroyed this Nazi plague? The key one, who endured all the burden and suffered the greatest losses was precisely the Russian people. And he has every reason to consider himself great. Because, at least, with a relatively small number, it holds a huge territory for a thousand years. And every nation has geeks, the main thing is how the majority of society treats it. Ours is negative.
          2. Shimshon
            Shimshon 18 May 2021 16: 35
            0
            And this, they write not yet dry after May 9 !? - tin.
      2. IS-80_RVGK2
        IS-80_RVGK2 18 May 2021 21: 36
        0
        Lately, the world has completely gone crazy. Fascists of all stripes accuse each other of fascism.
  • Shahno
    Shahno 17 May 2021 08: 53
    +3
    Quote: Avior
    ... Did the author not know this?
    Forgot?

    And in the article, these questions can be put to every second paragraph.

    As the author correctly noted, in this matter the majority cannot remain impartial, simply because of their upbringing ... which is what we observe in this article. But an opinion, it is an opinion, no more.
    You must at least live decently in the conditions of each of the parties to the conflict .. To express something worthwhile.
    1. Okolotochny
      Okolotochny 17 May 2021 09: 41
      +1
      You must at least live decently in the conditions of each of the parties to the conflict.

      Will not work. The main "theme" is the land. Arabs want more, Jews do not want to give what they have. Not?
      1. And Us Rat
        And Us Rat 17 May 2021 20: 31
        0
        Quote: Okolotochny
        The main "theme" is the land. Arabs want more, Jews do not want to give what they have. Not?

        Not. They want ALL the land, and the Judenfrei.
  • steelmaker
    steelmaker 17 May 2021 09: 07
    0
    Since 2015, no one has touched Israel, that's for sure. And how did Israel use this peace period? I got fired up with impunity! Erdogan called Israel a terrorist state. And this already says a lot. When there is no justice, there will always be wars. But Israel forgot about Syria. It's time to finish off ISIS.
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 17 May 2021 09: 51
      -2
      Quote: steel maker
      It's time to finish off ISIS.

      So finish it off. Only I'm afraid Erdogan won't give it. Those who are bearded bandits for you and for the majority of the civilized world are fighters for Islam. And the Turks, unlike Russia, have a long border with Syria and Iraq.
  • gridasov
    gridasov 17 May 2021 09: 51
    +1
    As the saying goes, a foolish person will not understand, and a smart one does not need an explanation - who needs the Middle East conflict and why.
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 17 May 2021 09: 55
    +2
    Well, since the war is going on, then someone needs it.
  • Shahno
    Shahno 17 May 2021 11: 47
    +2
    Quote: Okolotochny
    The ICC immediately begins to regard this as genocide.

    Yes, you are already sending it. Send it again.
    Bomb Iran?

    Is Hamas financed by Iran? It seems like Sunita. Not Qatar?

    It is known that Hamas is funded by the UN, Qatar, a little bit by the UAE and Israel.
    As far as I am aware, Iran, through a proxy, is driving accessories and good advisers through the Egyptian typographic border.
  • Shahno
    Shahno 17 May 2021 13: 21
    0
    Quote: DED_peer_DED
    I'll shake it up with my tongue.
    It is strange to read the demands to settle a problem that tens, even hundreds of politicians, generals and diplomats cannot solve for many years. The problem of Palestine has already been recognized by most analysts, albeit tacitly, unsolvable. However, I have my own point of view on this issue.

    Point of view, note this.
    The truth is somewhere nearby, but each nation has its own truth. Both Jews and Arabs. And this truth is perceived by people in the degree of truthfulness to which a person supports this or that nation, what religion a person professes, in what state he lives.

    But the "truth" from the "truth" flooded, however the smell went.

    Another verbiage of these.
    In which "Truth" is different from "Truth".
    Damn, that's where they come from "Magicians - Demagogues"?
    Oh, that's where it comes from.
    I started reading, read the above two paragraphs and immediately scrolled down (no further reading, nothing ...), to authorship ...



    Here it is.
    Yes.
    These Truth and Truth are not the same.
    Slovobludy, their mother.

    Yes, the trouble is not that verbiage ... But that they know how to present beautifully. I would say "nightingales" and people believe them.
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 17 May 2021 14: 13
    0
    Someone will need to be removed as an irritant in the Middle East, without that. The experiment of the international community with the creation of a state based on the Bible has gone downhill from the very beginning.
    1. Shimshon
      Shimshon 18 May 2021 16: 42
      0
      Where do you bury the cleaners, then we will ???
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 18 May 2021 16: 52
        0
        Look at the burial, the war is not with us, but with you.
        1. Shimshon
          Shimshon 18 May 2021 19: 05
          0
          This is not a war, but ATO,. Suddenly remembered that this is ours? Passes by.
  • Egor53
    Egor53 17 May 2021 14: 52
    -3
    Russia does not lose anything from the war between Jews and Arabs in the Middle East. And we may well get the benefit from such a war. The weakening of Israel will only benefit us.
    Of course, it's a pity for civilians.
    Only I am much more concerned about the situation of the Russian-speaking majority in Ukraine.
    And under the guise of war in the Middle East, it will be easier for Novorossia to restore and exterminate the Ukronazis.
  • Gado
    Gado 17 May 2021 15: 34
    0
    The author, I will tell you only one thing - if Turkey gets involved in the showdown between Jews and Palestinians, then it will be a world war, no more, no less. Syria alone, where they entered illegally, is enough.
  • flicker
    flicker 17 May 2021 15: 54
    -2
    Israel is preparing a ground operation for retaliation, strikes at Hamas, and all talk about civilians, children and other old people is swept aside.
    It seems that is why Israel destroyed the building with the offices of the international media so that the fact of the flagrant Israeli crimes did not receive widespread publicity.
    ---
    This unties the hands of the IDF, but only in the State Department there is no consensus on the further fate of Israel (namely, the fate of Israel is decided there, and no one will ask the Israelis themselves for their opinion).
    Erdogan said for a reason that he would teach a lesson to Israel and help the Palestinians in the same way he helped Azerbaijan, the latter, by the way, can supply the Palestinians with kamikaze drones manufactured under an Israeli license.
    It looks like a token of gratitude request
    ---
    The closure of the Israel project is quite real in nature and quite fits into the outline of the ongoing strengthening of Turkey, which promises the states (at a certain stage) enormous benefits.
    For the sake of this benefit (strengthening of hegemony by weakening competitors), they can easily go to the elimination of Israel.
    ---
    Many are wondering how weapons get into the essentially enclave - the Gaza Strip?
    The answer is probably that Jews are good businessmen and will not miss the benefits - especially since the states are promoting this.
  • 547807955
    547807955 17 May 2021 16: 41
    -1
    Don't you remember that the Savior himself predicted woe to Jerusalem?
    1. 547807955
      547807955 17 May 2021 19: 08
      0
      Jerusalem, Jerusalem, killing the prophets and stoning those sent to you! How many times have I wanted to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you did not want to! Behold, your house is left empty to you (Matt 23: 37-38).
  • And Us Rat
    And Us Rat 17 May 2021 19: 20
    0
    Ugh, I thought it was an adequate article. And here....
    the problem became insoluble after the Israelis occupied East Jerusalem in the 1967 war.

    The problem became insoluble after Transjordan occupied East Jerusalem during the 1947 war. For some reason the author "forgot" this fact. fellow

    Jews went in direct violation of the UN Security Council decision,

    By taking the city from another intruder? In 1947, did the Arabs violate this decision? Although I know what the author will say: lol


    according to which Jerusalem was to become a special administrative unit under the control of the UN

    And why did he not become her, for 20 (TWENTY CARL !!!) years, from 1947 to 1967 ?! fool
  • And Us Rat
    And Us Rat 17 May 2021 19: 40
    -2
    US support

    Started in 1969. The author does not own the topic.
    Another pseudo-objective farce based on training manuals from the 70s.
    Why isn't there a hand-face emoji? No.

    untied Tel Aviv's hands.

    Mayor of Tel Aviv? wassat More important than him, there is no one there.

    In fact, Jerusalem became Israeli, but legally it remained nobody's.

    What is this fierce nonsense? belay The author is not aware that the legal status is determined by the legislation of the one who ensures the sovereignty in the possession of the territory?
    And as long as Israel guarantees the observance of its sovereignty in Jerusalem, then the only valid legal law is established by Israel. And according to Israeli laws - the legal status of Jerusalem has been determined. This is the capital of Israel, registered by law.
    Any other opinion (of other countries, organizations, and individuals) regarding the status of Jerusalem, has no legal force on the territory of Israel and Jerusalem in particular.
    Comprand? fellow
  • xorek
    xorek 17 May 2021 21: 34
    -5
    The Middle East is on the verge of war. Another Arab-Israeli war. If you look at the Arab countries, you can see a real rise in anti-Israel sentiment.

    Again, all from the beginning .. Just like peacefully healed on the BV. And Israel is bombing and bombing all its neighbors and even the Russian base nearby, giggling and maliciously.
    So they were bragging about it .. Soon the USA will adjust its AUGs, they finally came in handy ..
    No matter how Iran gets soaked, this is where it starts
    1. Maki Avellevich
      Maki Avellevich 18 May 2021 20: 51
      -1
      Quote: xorek
      .Soon the USA will adjust its AUGs, finally they came in handy.
      No matter how Iran gets soaked, this is where it starts

      So Meehan, let's meet at the Irano Israeli border, play the fool?
  • Valery Kryzhanovsky
    Valery Kryzhanovsky 18 May 2021 12: 25
    -2
    Russia itself set an example with the Crimea, first the troops were "polite people", and then the referendum, but here is the East, here is power the main weapon !!! And we want to be friends with Iran, and with Israel, it does not happen! And so that there was peace in Syria! And the war has been going on there for centuries! And Russia will run around the world with a fire extinguisher!)
    1. vl903
      vl903 18 May 2021 14: 48
      -1
      Russia and the Crimea snapped on the nose of the obsolete United States, when they wanted to take the Crimea completely to themselves and cut out the Russian-speakers there. you can be friends with Iran and Israel if you remove the United States. their ears stick out there from everywhere
  • Alexey Kartashov
    Alexey Kartashov 18 May 2021 12: 36
    +1
    Is the killing of Jews by the Nazis a myth? Are you either a Holocaust denier or.
    1. vl903
      vl903 18 May 2021 14: 43
      -2
      only Jews? and why did they distinguish them? and modern Jews now what to do and what to do right?
  • Vitaly gusin
    Vitaly gusin 18 May 2021 18: 59
    -2
    Dear Alexanr!
    If you have touched on this very complex topic, try to be correct about the story.
    But back to the history of Israel. It seems to me that the problem became insoluble after the Israelis occupied East Jerusalem during the 1967 war. But the old city is located there. The Jews went for a direct violation of the UN Security Council decision, according to which Jerusalem was to become a special administrative unit under the control of the UN.
    And there is a historical fact.
    On May 14, 1948, the formation of the State of Israel was proclaimed.
    May 15, 1948 Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, Transjordan, Saudi Arabia, Iraq and Yemen declared war Jews of Palestine and attacked the newly proclaimed Israel with the aim of destroying the new Jewish state
    After the 1948 Arab-Israeli War the eastern part of Jerusalem was occupied and annexed by Jordan. Under Jordanian control, Jews were completely expelled from the Old City, including the Jewish Quarter, and Jews were banned from entering the Old City for 19 years, effectively banning Jewish prayer at the site of the Western Wall.
    In 1967, during the war, the Golan Heights were occupied, from where 1/4 of Israel and the Sinai Peninsula were fired from, from where Egyptian artillery and aircraft attacked Israel.
    And of course Jerusalem, with which the whole life of Jews around the world is connected.

    [i] That it is Arab settlements (or Arab areas of cities) that are breeding grounds for crime in this country. In fact, the number of street crimes of Arabs and Jews is quite comparable./I]
    Underworld violence is largely confined to the Arab areas of the country, as evidenced by the disproportionate number of murders among the Arab community compared to the Jewish areas of the country. Although Arab Israelis make up approximately 21% of the population, they accounted for 71% of Israel's 125 murders in 2019.
    Yes, during the current confrontation, Hamas appealed to the Arabs to start riots throughout the country and they were rebuffed, both of them were arrested, more than 1000 people and will be brought to justice.

    Simply because for the elimination of the conflict it is necessary to go back, to return to the UN General Assembly resolution number 181 of November 29, 1947 on the partition of Palestine and the formation of two states. laughing laughing

    Dear!
    GAZA TERRITORY IS UNDER TOTAL HAMAS CONTROL SINCE 2005 THERE ARE NO EAREE
    And what do you have there, missiles to destroy Israel.
    West Bank
    The Oslo II Agreement divided the West Bank into three administrative units: Districts A, B and C
    zone A is in exceptional the conduct of the Palestinian Authority;
    Zone B is administered as The Palestinian Authority and Israel;
    Zone C ruled by Israel
    And no one canceled this, both sides adhere to this, but Hamas dreams of seizing this enclave too, killing representatives of the PA, as it did in Gaza.
    Trump's plan was the most suitable (but not ideal) in this situation is EXCHANGE OF TERRITORIES
    To disarm Gaza, and in return, a complete reconstruction of Gaza, the construction of viaducts connecting the West Bank with Gaza. Funding was provided by America and the Arab countries.
    Hamas refused
    Ego is the goal, DESTRUCTION OF ISRAEL
    And you are still pouring water into his mill.
  • Kunich80
    Kunich80 18 May 2021 22: 00
    +1
    The State of Israel had to be created on the territory of Papua New Guinea. And there would be no wars and there would be a paradise. And the Israelis are great for what they learned in 1956 - one must rely only on themselves (when the USA and the USSR showed their ass at once)
  • Comrade Kim
    Comrade Kim 19 May 2021 00: 53
    -1
    Progressive Israeli politicians denounce Zionist Netanyahu:

    https://t.me/parstodayrussian/72280

    "Netanyahu endangers our very existence and leads us to destruction," he said, noting the weakness of the Zionist regime in front of the Palestinian resistance.
    1. A. Privalov
      A. Privalov 19 May 2021 06: 48
      0
      Quote: Comrade Kim
      Progressive Israeli politicians denounce Zionist Netanyahu:

      The primitive division into progressive and non-progressive has played a cruel joke on you. Lieberman is 100 times more Zionist than Netanyahu. laughing
      1. ccsr
        ccsr 19 May 2021 12: 50
        0
        Quote: A. Privalov
        Lieberman is 100 times more Zionist than Netanyahu.

        Yes, and you are not far from him, although you are crying that they say Soviet propaganda powdered the brains of your opponents on this forum.
        It is ridiculous to look at your attempts, Privalov - you have not lived in our country for thirty years, and you are still trying to teach us something, which most likely you yourself do not believe in. At least reading your "revelations" I got the impression that Soviet propaganda did not work on you (you are above that in our country), which means that all your current conclusions are just a consequence of Israeli propaganda and real communication with the Arabs. So who made the mistake of believing in the creation of a Jewish state - you or those who, in Soviet times, warned people like you that Zionism would not lead to anything good.
        It turns out that Soviet propaganda was not far from the truth - I think it came to you a long time ago ...
  • high
    high 19 May 2021 19: 42
    0
    The Organization of American States, the oldest regional structure in the world, which includes 34 states in the Americas, has declared the Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas) a terrorist organization.
    1. Vitaly gusin
      Vitaly gusin 19 May 2021 21: 33
      0
      Quote: alta
      34 states of the Americas, declared the Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas) a terrorist organization.

      Canada, EU countries: Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Netherlands, Poland, Portugal , Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain and Sweden. , Israel, Japan and the United States have recognized Hamas as a terrorist organization.
      Not recognized
      Brazil, China, Egypt, Iran, Norway, Qatar, Russia, Syria and Turkey.
  • Shahno
    Shahno 19 May 2021 19: 49
    0
    Quote: alta
    The Organization of American States, the oldest regional structure in the world, which includes 34 states in the Americas, has declared the Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas) a terrorist organization.

    And what ... If the international community restrains the IDF. We will never solve the problem like that.
  • Comrade Kim
    Comrade Kim 20 May 2021 13: 49
    -1
    Only one person needs a war - a lame duck, a downed pilot who has lost the trust of Putin - B. Netanyahu.
    Because of his political ambitions, he subjects the people of Israel to severe trials. And the people of Palestine - a bloody, Zionist genocide.

    Forewarned is forearmed.
    Inyorm app about the location of missile strikes (free):
    I recommend "Kumta - Anxiety"
    https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.morha.cumtaalerts
  • Iris
    Iris 20 May 2021 23: 45
    -1
    Absolutely shameful - in the sense of the author's ownership of the topic - article. What can you say here? Apparently, shame will not eat the author's eyes ((((
  • Outsider
    Outsider 21 May 2021 15: 52
    -1
    - Alexander Staver, and from what hangover suddenly East Jerusalem should be declared the capital of the "State of Palestine" ??
    Traditionally, thanks to the media, we are accustomed to believe that the overwhelming majority of crimes in Israel are committed by Arabs. That it is Arab settlements (or Arab areas of cities) that are breeding grounds for crime in this country. In fact, the number of street crimes of Arabs and Jews is quite comparable.

    - Silly ignorant delirium:
    http://madan.org.il/ru/news/prichiny-rosta-nasiliya-i-prestupnosti-v-arabskom-sektore-izrailya
    Here's what the statistics say. In 2017, about 0,7 percent of adults in Arab society were convicted of various crimes. This is three times more than the representatives of the Jewish community - 0,23 percent.
    .......................
    Given that Arabs make up 1 / 5th of the population of Israel ...
  • flicker
    flicker 23 May 2021 19: 47
    0
    The topic somehow instantly disappeared from the news.
    ---
    I wonder how the ceasefire is assessed in Israel, as a delight, or as an overcoming?
  • amr
    amr 24 May 2021 19: 18
    0
    Quote: Zug
    They were resettled in the USSR for acts for which, for example, in England they would be hanged

    Can't you comment on this for what deeds were resettled ???

    if the acts were there, harsh Soviet justice operated, but why were the peoples resettled?