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Beijing fears that after the withdrawal of the US army, instability in Afghanistan will spread to Xinjiang

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After the withdrawal of US troops from Afghanistan, China, together with the former Soviet republics of Central Asia, will have to intensify the fight against extremist manifestations. This was one of the issues raised at the meeting of Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi with colleagues from five Central Asian states (Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan), which took place in the Chinese city of Xi'an.


It is reported by the Hong Kong newspaper South China Morning Post.

Despite the contradictions between the PRC and the United States, China cannot but admit that the American contingent in Afghanistan was holding back the spread of radical Islam in Central Asia and China. Now Beijing fears that after the withdrawal of the US army, instability in Afghanistan, which will inevitably intensify, will spread to the Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region of the PRC with a predominantly Muslim population. This problem can become extremely acute, forcing Beijing to seek cooperation with its neighbors in countering extremism.

China sees the strengthening of radicals in Central Asia not only as a threat to stability in Xinjiang, but also as possible serious obstacles to the implementation of the large One Belt - One Road project, which, among other things, provides for the development of infrastructure in Central Asia.
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  1. Clear
    Clear 14 May 2021 18: 30
    +4
    Beijing fears that after the withdrawal of the US army, instability in Afghanistan will spill over to Xinjiang.
    After the withdrawal of US troops from Afghanistan, China, together with the former Soviet republics of Central Asia, will have to intensify the fight against extremist manifestations.

    Oh, you my dears ... how scared. But Russia lives like this all the time.
    1. hirurg
      hirurg 14 May 2021 18: 41
      -1
      The US presence somewhere and stability are incompatible things.
      Therefore, the Chinese comrades are mistaken.
      They are worried about the unknown development of the situation.
      So it is necessary to work, and not to sit and wait for someone to swim by ...
      Or sit in a tree and wait ...
      1. Clear
        Clear 14 May 2021 18: 44
        +1
        Quote: hirurg
        The US presence somewhere and stability are incompatible things.
        Therefore, the Chinese comrades are mistaken.
        They are worried about the unknown development of the situation. So it is necessary to work, and not to sit and wait for someone to swim by ...

        Yeah. They broke out in the race to the first positions and ... do not know what to do recourse Everything, sit and wait ... time is up.
        1. hirurg
          hirurg 14 May 2021 18: 56
          0
          I think that ours gave them full instructions.
          It's just that someone heard something in the Chinese press ... and started crying.
          1. Lara Croft
            Lara Croft 14 May 2021 21: 33
            +2
            Quote: hirurg
            I think that ours gave them full instructions.

            I hope not ... China supplied the Mujahideen with V and VT when there was a limited contingent of the USSR Armed Forces ...
            And what they did in the DRA of the USSR Armed Forces, the USSR Internal Troops and the USSR KGB, the PLA will never do ... they swim shallowly ...
            1. hirurg
              hirurg 14 May 2021 21: 46
              -2
              Oooooooy dear!
              Time, countries, interests have changed!
      2. Pandiurin
        Pandiurin 14 May 2021 19: 34
        +2
        Quote: hirurg
        The US presence somewhere and stability are incompatible things.
        Therefore, the Chinese comrades are mistaken.
        They are worried about the unknown development of the situation.
        So it is necessary to work, and not to sit and wait for someone to swim by ...
        Or sit in a tree and wait ...


        If the Americans leave, then in Afghanistan there is an opportunity for China to become more active. There are many interesting topics for China. Now we need an explanation, information support for the intensification of China's actions in the Afghan direction. For domestic consumption, stability in the inner Chinese Uyghur region, for external consumption, stabilization, normalization of peaceful life, promotion of economic projects and blah blah blah in Afghanistan.

        If the Chinese were going to sit quietly on the banks of the river, they would not have voiced anything.
        This is not a request from the Chinese to the Americans to stay.

        Yankee Go Home, the Chinese are right there.
        IMHO from the Chinese there will be more benefit than from ovs.
      3. Misha Honest
        Misha Honest 16 May 2021 07: 11
        -1
        Quote: hirurg
        So it is necessary to work, and not to sit and wait for someone to swim by ...
        Or sit in a tree and wait ...

        So the Chinese express their "concern" for "work" ... Today, concern, and tomorrow, the troops of the PRC may already be in Kabul ... request
    2. xorek
      xorek 14 May 2021 18: 52
      +2
      Quote: Clear
      Oh, you my dears ... how scared. But Russia lives like this all the time.

      They were scared for sure, because the militants can rush towards China too. They have a Muslim province there, they are tough with them ..

      We are already familiar in Russia, somehow we will hold back ..
      1. Clear
        Clear 14 May 2021 18: 54
        +4
        Quote: xorek
        Quote: Clear
        Oh, you my dears ... how scared. But Russia lives like this all the time.

        They were scared for sure, because the militants can rush towards China too. They have a Muslim province there, they are tough with them ..

        We are already familiar in Russia, somehow we will hold back ..

        As far as I know, Russia always talks about joining efforts in the fight against international terrorism.
        1. xorek
          xorek 14 May 2021 21: 41
          -2
          Quote: Clear
          As far as I know, Russia always talks about joining efforts in the fight against international terrorism.

          But, where is his nest, we are silent about it and many countries are also afraid
          .. Erdogan named and immediately regretted it and fell silent.
          This is how we live our bread, while wink
    3. Finches
      Finches 14 May 2021 18: 55
      -3
      China has sponsored our enemies all the time, and now it pretends to be a sheep ... After Khrushchev's idiotic policy, of course, and Khrushchev is the spiritual father of Gorbachev and Yeltsin, and the root of their kind comes from Judas ... And you can't count the branches! Unfortunately!
      1. demo
        demo 14 May 2021 20: 52
        +6
        Khrushchev's policy, in spite of the obviousness of your statement, is idiotic, and in fact it was not.
        We, now living, are presented with one scenario, where the reason for the discord is the speech of Khrushchev at the 20th Congress with the debunking of the personality cult.
        And after that, like, China got angry.
        In fact, everything was a little different.
        Comrade Mao, after Stalin's death, sighed deeply, for he was afraid of Stalin to the point of hiccups.
        And he needed to take first place in the planetary workers' and communist movement.
        And Comrade Mao, at one of his meetings with Khrushchev, suggested that the latter launch preemptive strikes against the United States and its allies in order to end capitalism in one fell swoop.
        To which Khrushchev reasonably objected to him that in response the Americans would also strike at the USSR and those countries of Eastern Europe where our armed forces were stationed. And in this situation, at least 400 million people will die only on our side and our allies (such calculations were made annually in light of the constantly increasing number of warheads in the USSR and the USA).
        To which Mao said (with Kung Fuqian humility) - but this is necessary for the sake of a common cause! The triumphs of the proletarian revolution throughout the world!
        Khrushchev understood that he was a maniac, but a specific one; he was ready to take risks and destroy all his enemies, but with someone else's hands.
        It was on this basis that a split occurred.
        So how stupid was Khrushchev's policy in this respect?
  2. Nikolay Ivanov_5
    Nikolay Ivanov_5 14 May 2021 18: 32
    -6
    I am confident that the withdrawal of the Stars and Stripes will reduce or completely stop the production of narcotic substances in Afghanistan.
    1. spirit
      spirit 14 May 2021 18: 43
      +9
      Yes? And what will they do there? Do you think to breed sheep and build a bright civilized society? The Taliban needs money, money is drugs.
      1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
        Nikolay Ivanov_5 14 May 2021 19: 52
        -4
        US condones drug production ramp-up in Afghanistan
        https://iz.ru/news/579340
    2. Cananecat
      Cananecat 14 May 2021 18: 46
      +3
      Quote: Nikolay Ivanov_5
      I am confident that the withdrawal of the Stars and Stripes will reduce or completely stop the production of narcotic substances in Afghanistan.

      Oh, whether ... from the moment of our departure and to the entry of the Americans, production has grown hundreds of times. The Taliban was still holding him back at first, but after counting the profits, they themselves began to indulge in it ...
      1. Deniska999
        Deniska999 14 May 2021 19: 10
        0
        The Taliban held back in order to cash in on rising prices, nothing more. And the US residency will not prevent anything from monitoring production further. By God, like little children, they still believe in fairy tales ...
      2. Nikolay Ivanov_5
        Nikolay Ivanov_5 14 May 2021 19: 52
        -2
        US condones drug production ramp-up in Afghanistan
        https://iz.ru/news/579340
    3. xorek
      xorek 14 May 2021 18: 57
      0
      Quote: Nikolai Ivanov_5
      I am confident that the withdrawal of the Stars and Stripes will reduce or completely stop the production of narcotic substances in Afghanistan.

      Well, if the Taliban seize power, they treat drug traffickers harshly, but on the other hand, tough power will be established .. But the Shuravi, they still respect and remember them as warriors and creating something on their land, unlike the Amers.
      1. Pandiurin
        Pandiurin 14 May 2021 19: 25
        -1
        Quote: xorek
        Quote: Nikolai Ivanov_5
        I am confident that the withdrawal of the Stars and Stripes will reduce or completely stop the production of narcotic substances in Afghanistan.

        Well, if the Taliban seize power, they treat drug traffickers harshly, but on the other hand, tough power will be established .. But the Shuravi, they still respect and remember them as warriors and creating something on their land, unlike the Amers.


        You are probably idealizing the Taliban about drugs. they had a period when they declared a fight, but most likely it was done with the expectation of the world community in order to gain an image and get goodies in the foreign policy arena.
        How today's Taliban will react to this is a big question. They need money - it can be obtained through the drug trade, they need the support of the population and local clans - which means they need to be allowed to cultivate a profitable "agricultural culture".
        In the long term, if the Taliban settle down in Kabul, it is possible and will actually fight, which is very, very difficult, or simply imitate a fight at the level of a declaration.
        I don’t know how the Taliban treat poppy cultivation now, so I could be wrong.
        1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
          Nikolay Ivanov_5 14 May 2021 19: 51
          -2
          US condones drug production ramp-up in Afghanistan
          https://iz.ru/news/579340
    4. Orange bigg
      Orange bigg 14 May 2021 19: 54
      0
      Quote: Nikolai Ivanov_5
      I am confident that the withdrawal of the Stars and Stripes will reduce or completely stop the production of narcotic substances in Afghanistan.

      But what if China goes there and puts the case on a global scale? wink
      1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
        Nikolay Ivanov_5 14 May 2021 19: 55
        -2
        This will not happen, since the Chinese are millions of times better than the stars-stripes.
        1. Orange bigg
          Orange bigg 14 May 2021 19: 56
          +1
          In what way is it better?
          1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
            Nikolay Ivanov_5 14 May 2021 19: 58
            -3
            The Chinese behave in a civilized manner, and the Stars and Stripes shit all over the world.
            1. Orange bigg
              Orange bigg 14 May 2021 20: 02
              +1
              Maybe in some places yes, but they also pollute nature with chemistry, the same soils. And the air is the same in Beijing at times.
              1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
                Nikolay Ivanov_5 14 May 2021 20: 03
                -2
                Do you consider the Stars as a civilized nation ???
                1. Orange bigg
                  Orange bigg 14 May 2021 20: 10
                  0
                  There are many representatives of completely different peoples from all over the world. This is a country of immigrant settlers. A melting pot, which can hardly be called something one whole, even a nation, the same states are very different from each other and are not similar.
                  1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
                    Nikolay Ivanov_5 14 May 2021 20: 20
                    -1
                    BLM movement can appear in a civilized country ??? How and why it is possible to replace the oppression of one part of society with another, but in reality it is not possible to solve the problems of racial hostility at all.
    5. Pandiurin
      Pandiurin 14 May 2021 20: 52
      +1
      Quote: Nikolai Ivanov_5
      I am confident that the withdrawal of the Stars and Stripes will reduce or completely stop the production of narcotic substances in Afghanistan.

      I would like to believe.
      But in order to stop the streamlined process in which a huge number of people are involved and where a lot of money is turned, you need to make huge efforts. This is already a stable system in itself with enormous opportunities and resources (money, people who grows, bandits who provide and transport, positive propaganda of such a business for many years) for self-healing. This can only be overcome by extrajudicial, non-democratic methods.
      First, build a big stadium, collect all these gangsters in this stadium and shoot them.
      Only one stadium may not be enough.
      Any other methods stretched out for many decades and at the beginning there will be no result.
  3. awg75
    awg75 14 May 2021 18: 35
    -1
    Rightly afraid. Gentlemen, Americans will certainly take care of this.
  4. svp67
    svp67 14 May 2021 18: 42
    +2
    Beijing fears that after the withdrawal of the US army, instability in Afghanistan will spread to Xinjiang
    Conclusion: "It is necessary to transfer the" calmness "of Xinjiang to Afghanistan ..." wink
    1. xorek
      xorek 14 May 2021 19: 03
      0
      Quote: svp67
      Beijing fears that after the withdrawal of the US army, instability in Afghanistan will spread to Xinjiang
      Conclusion: "It is necessary to transfer the" calmness "of Xinjiang to Afghanistan ..." wink

      It would not be bad, let them show themselves there .. But I think the Chinese there will start to wipe out to smithereens .. They have no understanding of interethnic politics ..
      Although .. The main thing is that drugs and hot spots are reduced.
      In general, Afghanistan is famous not only for its poppy fields and hemp and warlike tribes .. There are richest deposits of semiprecious stones and rare earth metals in general Well, there is also enough of other things.
  5. ximkim
    ximkim 14 May 2021 18: 47
    0

    After the withdrawal of US troops from Afghanistan, China, together with the former Soviet republics of Central Asia, will have to intensify the fight against extremist manifestations. This was one of the issues raised at the meeting of Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi with colleagues from five Central Asian states (Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan), which took place in the Chinese city of Xi'an.

    The leaders of the countries are not sure of their actions, have they created the basis for radicals?
  6. Petr Vladimirovich
    Petr Vladimirovich 14 May 2021 18: 48
    0
    They did not grieve under the king. And then off we go ...
  7. JonnyT
    JonnyT 14 May 2021 18: 53
    0
    From you on, they themselves supplied the Taliban with weapons, and now they were scared
  8. Poetry
    Poetry 14 May 2021 19: 01
    +2
    During the Afghan war, many Uighurs fought for the Mujahideen. Well, the Chinese weapons were also piled high.
    He who sows the wind reaps the storm.
  9. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 14 May 2021 19: 02
    0
    Beijing fears that after the withdrawal of the US army, instability in Afghanistan ...

    And what did you expect. Did the thousand warnings you issued work? Have Americans become peaceful and compliant?
    That is why they come to countries to deprive them of their sovereignty, sow chaos, discord and blind slavish obedience. But you keep making warnings, sitting on the river bank and waiting for the enemy's corpse to float by. One thing is sad: the corpse may not be the body of a defeated enemy, but your relative.
  10. Basarev
    Basarev 14 May 2021 19: 42
    -1
    Let them play preemptive and send troops into Afghanistan themselves. The world will only benefit if China breaks down in Afghanistan, like the Union and now NATO. Any troubles in the Chinese economy are beneficial to the interests of Russia. China must be poor and underdeveloped.
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 14 May 2021 21: 21
      +3
      Quote: Basarev
      China must be poor and underdeveloped.

      and smoked with opium, as it was before Mao.
    2. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 15 May 2021 11: 44
      0
      He will never be poor and weak again. The second place in the world in terms of GDP at par and (more importantly) the first place in the world in terms of GDP at PPP. Look at the figures for the production of the most important types of products in the PRC and compare with the indicators of other countries. Compare how much of the economy and what the standard of living was forty years old, and what is now. The majority of the population no longer lives in rural areas, but in cities. And many Chinese villages are more like our small towns. Their science and higher education are very decent. The army is the most powerful, with a nuclear triad. Plus a huge and influential diaspora around the world. They also have a lot of problems. And ecological, and demographic, and the problem of social stratification. But the whole world has to reckon with China.
      1. Basarev
        Basarev 15 May 2021 13: 18
        -3
        China's defeat is inevitable. The Soviet Union, too, was once the second economy in the world - and it was much more vigorously eager to join the first. But it didn’t grow together. Meanwhile, the Union was much stronger than today's China. So I foresee that China will collapse anyway. Failing two great attempts will discourage the rest. And the Eternal unipolar world will reign. The United States will become an absolute superpower, uncontested and indestructible. So it is foretold by fate.
  11. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 14 May 2021 20: 01
    0
    Yes, it is not the Chinese who need to fear the Taliban in the first place, but the neighboring countries with Afghanistan. And it is the United States that, after leaving Afghanistan, will begin to radicalize the population, so that Russia will not have a sweet spot, which will have to defend the Central Asian countries from raids. The CIA has long begun to resolve these issues by deploying ISIS from Syria.
    1. Pandiurin
      Pandiurin 14 May 2021 20: 22
      +1
      China is also a neighboring country bordering Afghanistan. Let's not forget about Pakistan.
      If others need stability in Afghanistan for peace in the border areas, then China needs it, but not only that. The Chinese need Afghanistan without a civil war with the central government, with a strong government. Then they will be able to stick to their interests and achieve participation of Afghanistan in global projects, well, at least as a territory in which this is implemented and a little bit of a partner, such as the Silk Road, mining of excavated, etc.

      An issue with strong central authority and no civil war. If it is impossible to prevent the coming of the Taliban to power, then you can lead it, for example, by providing assistance through Pakistan to the "right" Taliban with weapons, medicines, food, instructors and other humanitarian aid.

      We must not forget that the United States had problems with the withdrawal of a large number of PMCs. Surely the Chinese are ready to help the Americans create conditions for American PMCs to fly out of Afghanistan at the speed of a bullet.
  12. d1975
    d1975 14 May 2021 20: 12
    +1
    I do not gloat, but evil comes back. Do not they remember how the instructors were sent there against us? For me, let them get interest in full. For one thing and think what and how does politics. The world is not one Confucius.
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 15 May 2021 11: 56
      0
      Why then, after the withdrawal of Soviet troops in Afghanistan, there was not a single pro-Chinese group?
  13. Revolver
    Revolver 14 May 2021 21: 19
    +6
    Now let the Chinese actually get to know the jihad on their own territory. And the rest of "progressive humanity" will make sure that the Chinese do not violate human rights and democratic freedoms of the oppressed and discriminated Muslim minority. And if you redirect all and sundry martyrs there, thirsty for paradise and houris, finally there will be beauty.
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 15 May 2021 11: 35
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      So they have a very tense situation in Xinjiang. It is good for the Chinese that in Urumqi, the capital of the XUAR, the Han people are absolutely numerically predominant, and the percentage of Uighurs and other Muslims is very small. But outside Urumqi, especially in the southern and western regions of the XUAR, the situation is tense. I went to the Russian-language versions of the Uyghur anti-Chinese sites. I have a feeling that Islam is not the main thing for extremist Uyghur separatists. They are rather close to wild nationalism, on the verge of Nazism. They also treat Kazakhs, Kyrgyz, Uzbeks, Tajiks, Hui living in the XUAR with condescension, if not disdain. Again, this is about the extremist wing of the Uyghur movement, not all Uyghurs as a people.
      1. gsev
        gsev 16 May 2021 17: 10
        0
        Quote: Sergej1972
        So they have a very tense situation in Xinjiang.

        Recently, the PRC celebrated the 4th year of the absence of terrorist attacks in the country.
  14. And Us Rat
    And Us Rat 15 May 2021 05: 02
    -1
    China decided to try its luck in Afghanistan? Third, so to speak. winked
  15. Sergej1972
    Sergej1972 15 May 2021 12: 35
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    In the two most problematic territories of the PRC, the XUAR and the Tibet Autonomous Region, 28 million live (of which about 25 million are in the XUAR). It would seem that against the background of the entire population of the PRC of 1 billion 400 million it is not much. But at the same time, they occupy an area of ​​about 2 million square kilometers, that is, about a third of the territory of the PRC. Here you can also add several Tibetan autonomous regions and autonomous counties within the provinces bordering on the TAR. The total area of ​​XUAR, TAR and Tibetan autonomies of a lower level is already exactly one third of the territory of the PRC. The peculiarity of all the above-mentioned national autonomies in comparison with the rest of the autonomous regions (the largest of which in terms of the population of Inner Mongolia), and even more so from the majority of autonomous regions and autonomous counties, is that the Han people there constitute a minority of the population. However, in XUAR there are more than 7% of them. But they are not evenly spaced. They make up the majority of the population of Urumqi, the capital of the region, and several counties. In other regions of the XUAR, the share of Han is much lower. Plus, the local peoples, Uighurs, Kazakhs and others, have a much higher birth rate, they, unlike the Han people, were allowed to have two or three children during the period of the "one family-one child" policy, and sometimes more. Plus, most of the peoples of the XUAR and Tibetans are very different from the Han people and practically do not assimilate. Due to this, as well as the influence of an external factor (pan-Turkism, pan-Islamism, the Tibetan government in exile), the leadership of the PRC in relation to these western regions is pursuing, on the one hand, a very tough policy, on the other hand, a flexible and thoughtful policy, a combination of a carrot and a carrot. In general, despite the clear (over 40%) predominance of Han people in the population of the PRC, its leadership always focuses on the multinational nature of the country. In the political sphere, non-Han peoples are integrated into the political system of the PRC, but in the sphere of culture and education, a lot of money is spent on the development of the languages ​​of the peoples of the PRC, national media, schools, and publishing houses. Much attention is paid to the training of party and state officials dedicated to the cause of the CPC from among the representatives of non-Han peoples. After the victory of the CPC, the latter considered the experience of creating the union republics of the USSR unsuitable for its country. But the experience of the creation and functioning of the ASSR, autonomous regions in the RSFSR and some other union republics of the USSR in the PRC was recognized as valuable and was partially used. The CPC leadership, in fact, was closer in the conditions of the PRC not to Lenin's idea of ​​creating a union state, but to Stalin's unrealized "plan of autonomization." Although Mao had hesitations in the 92s and 30s, and at times he was inclined towards the idea of ​​transforming China into a federation, but later he recognized it as inexpedient.