Israeli Air Force launches largest air raid on Gaza with 160 aircraft, Hamas hits Israeli chemical plant

The Israeli aviation attacked launch pads in northern Gaza from where Hamas fighters launched rockets and Drones. Since the beginning of the aggravation, the IDF carried out the largest air raid on Gaza with the participation of 160 aircraft.

This was announced at a briefing by a spokesman for the Israel Defense Forces, Jonathan Conricus.

He said that the attack was carried out simultaneously on 150 targets and took about 40 minutes. Konricus also announced the participation of ground units in the operation, but the IDF units did not enter Gaza.

The aircraft hit the Hamas underground launch sites, from where the shelling of the central part of Israel was conducted.

Also, the press service of the IDF reported that the air defense forces managed to intercept the Palestinian UAV, which was launched from the territory of the Gaza Strip towards Israel. The military said they had been tracking the device since its launch, shooting down it immediately after crossing the Israeli border.

This is the tenth such incident since Israel's announcement of the counter-terrorist operation. It is assumed that the downed drone is a kamikaze drone. Such devices are manufactured in Gaza. They are capable of carrying up to 5 kilograms of explosives, and use GPS to aim them at targets.

According to the Al Jazeera TV channel, Hamas announced a successful attack by their UAV on a chemical plant in the Israeli kibbutz Nir-Oz. There is no official information yet about the consequences of this blow.

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[Oleg1263]

Israel is one of the leaders in the production of drones. 150 aircraft - this includes the UAV. or only manned aircraft? If the second option is not clear why drones are not used ...

[credo]

Quote: oleg1263

Israel is one of the leaders in the production of drones. 150 aircraft - this includes the UAV. or only manned aircraft? If the second option is not clear why drones are not used ...

UAVs could be used as scouts, gunners or spotters. Although it is possible they were used for complex purposes, located in densely populated areas. In any case, any types of weapons can be used in military operations, if necessary. Specific information will come later if Israel deems it necessary to inform the "world" public.

[Krasnodar]

Quote: oleg1263

Israel is one of the leaders in the production of drones. 150 aircraft - this includes the UAV. or only manned aircraft? If the second option is not clear why drones are not used ...

Only planes. The use of UAVs is not particularly advertised.

[Kaman]

On the night of Friday, May 14, Israel reported that the IDF was launching air and land strikes on the Gaza Strip, but in the foreign media, everything looked different. A spokesman for the IDF issued a statement in English stating that "aircraft and infantry are attacking the Gaza Strip."
This created ambiguity, and the major media reported the start of the ground operation. Now it turns out that this is not a mistake caused by poor English proficiency, but a deliberate ploy to help destroy Hamas forces.

It is not for nothing that the IDF said in the past that although Hamas does not understand this, its tunnels will turn into the graveyards of its militants. The IDF mapped out how to turn the tunnel threat into a big win chance, and that is exactly what happened last night.
Gaza City is riddled with a network of tunnels, it is an underground city: kilometers of tunnels that Hamas planned to be used during hostilities, for soldiers to stay there, to move them from place to place, to launch rockets and as headquarters. During the fighting, Hamas fighters remain underground and operate from there, as is already familiar from Operation Unbreakable Rock.

And yesterday, May 14, the IDF managed to create in Hamas the feeling of an approaching ground operation. Infantry, artillery and tanks were pushed to the border fence, and at the same time an IDF spokesman published the announcement in English. Thus, the IDF made Hamas think there was an invasion of Gaza, with the result that all fighters, including Hamas special forces, descended into the tunnels and prepared for battle.

Then, for 35 minutes, 160 aircraft flew over Gaza and dropped 450 bombs, that is, more than 80 tons of explosives, on the entire underground city of Hamas. The tunnels have collapsed, and it is currently unclear - to both us and Hamas - the extent of the damage and the number of terrorists buried there, but it is likely that there are hundreds of fighters.

“We also attacked the Hamas 'metro', which is located under the city of Gaza - the tunnels are a strategic asset of Hamas, and years of work and a lot of money have been invested there,” said a spokesman for the IDF. In an interview with KAN-Reshet Beth, Brigadier General Hidaya Zilberman said that the IDF was attacking high-ranking terrorists, and noted that "it worries them very much."

The spokesman added that the concern of high-ranking Hamas members is visible "after about a hundred activists have been killed in recent days." Apparently, one of the commanders of the Islamic Jihad, who was responsible for the organization's anti-tank missile system, was also liquidated.

[Alex777]

And with us, Wasserman said that all the problems are due to the fact that Bibi Netanyahu and Mahmoud Abbas do not want to lose power.

Fresh news - Hamas wants a truce.
Apparently, your story about the tunnels in the topic.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Alex777

And with us, Wasserman said that all the problems are due to the fact that Bibi Netanyahu and Mahmoud Abbas do not want to lose power.

This is just one piece of the puzzle.

Quote: Alex777

Fresh news - Hamas wants a truce.

From the second day. But he won't get it. They wanted to show off and then get a ceasefire at the zenith of their glory, they decided that Israel's restraint in recent years is a weakness and that one can be impudent. And they started beating them painfully. This is an indicative whipping.
Hezbollah received its own in 2006, and has been sitting silently since then. Hamas is more stubborn and needs to be flogged every few years.

[Alex777]

Wasserman claims Mahmoud Abbas canceled parliamentary elections when poll showed he would lose to Hamas?
It turns out that he desperately needs the defeat of Hamas?

This is an indicative whipping. Hezbollah received its own in 2006, and has been sitting silently since then.

Here I see it differently. 2006 went to Hezbollah as a plus.
But then Hezbollah suffered heavy losses in Syria. Because of this, she lost her former authority in Lebanon.
Therefore, it is silent.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Alex777

Here I see it differently. 2006 went to Hezbollah as a plus.

I didn’t go, this is international PR, Israel was stumbling about it, doing flight debriefing, and not paying due attention to the PR company.
In fact, the losses of Hezbollah and Lebanon (through the fault of Hezbollah) were critical. Nasrallah later admitted that if he had known Israel's reaction and the consequences, he would not have made that mess.

Quote: Alex777

But then Hezbollah suffered heavy losses in Syria.

"Then" - this is after 8 (eight Karl!) Years, during which they tried not even to breathe towards Israel.

Quote: Alex777

lost its former authority in Lebanon

Just in 2006, when, through her fault, Lebanon fell under the distribution. Hezbollah was saved from lynching only by the fear of the Lebanese elite to unleash a new civil war.

[zenion]

They will fight until the Premier is elected to the presidency. Then he won't go to jail.

[zenion]

One of them asked, not quite reasonably, what the Americans would do if they launched missiles at Washington. As if they had forgotten what happened when the planes launched by the US forces hit the twin towers and blamed Iraq. Maybe he would have asked what the believers in Allah would do if they were not allowed to pray on the holiday and were greeted with clubs.

[STORM 12]

balabol cheap

[Alex777]

Whoever calls his names is so called. (C) GDP.

[Finches]

From the point of view of statehood, the Israeli leadership has the right and should carry out similar operations within its borders against Palestinian radicals, but there were also moderate Palestinians with whom in Oslo in 1993 it was practically possible to find common ground on mutual recognition. And now everything is terribly neglected again and each side has its own truth! Who's to blame? Anglo-Saxons! After the First World War, Palestine came under British control. The number of Jews in the period from 1920 to 1940 was actively growing, followed by dissatisfaction with the British administration, which spread rot on both local Arabs and immigrants. And then, traditionally, the Englishwoman left all this to the mercy of fate. The UN was muddied by the creation of two states, an Arab and Israel, but then local sheikhs, emirs and other faithful began to stand in a pose, waving the green banner of the Prophet ... a bit of territory. Egypt occupied the Gaza Strip, and Jordan occupied the West Bank and East Jerusalem. So hundreds of thousands of Palestinians became refugees ... And it all started spinning!

[Egoza]

Quote: Finches

Who's to blame? Anglo-Saxons!

Absolutely right! Even when the Englishwoman planted a pig, and to this day, neither Jews nor Palestinians manage to sort out and live peacefully in this territory.

[3danimal]

Neither Jews nor Palestinians manage to live peacefully in this territory.

To live peacefully, you need the desire of both sides.
Palestinian radicals, fueled by neighboring Arab countries, accept only one peace: all Israelis are dead / fled en masse, liberating the occupied territory.
Although, listening to their (Palestinian) children's programs, there is much more ambition.
And from the children of Sadovskiy they hammered in that the main goal is to die by killing more Israelis (in exchange for mythical posthumous benefits).
Someone said: "The war will end when Arabs love their children more than they hate Jews."
So, it is not possible to agree.
They do not at all disdain to kill their moderate fellows, by the way, that is why only the voices of radicals have been heard lately.

[Shurik70]

Quote: Finches

the Israeli leadership has the right and must conduct such operations within its borders

De jure, the Gaza Strip belongs to partially recognized the State of Palestine
But figs with this "de jure".
Any state MANDATORY protect their citizens. So if rockets arrive from abroad, then you don't care about any agreements. The enemy must be destroyed.
Another thing is that this enemy Israel itself raised and carefully watched that the hatred did not fade away. And he himself inflicted unrequited strikes, and on Gaza, and on Lebanon, and on Syria. And earlier it was about Egypt, but now it does not risk, they can answer.

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Shurik70

Another thing is that this enemy Israel itself raised and carefully watched that the hatred did not fade away. And he himself inflicted unrequited strikes, and on Gaza, and on Lebanon, and on Syria. And earlier it was about Egypt, but now it does not risk, they can answer.

During the war with Egypt, when Soviet anti-aircraft gunners and pilots were there, he struck, bombing military and industrial facilities of the Egyptians, and when he signed the peace and established diplomatic relations, he was afraid of the Egyptian response You would at least get it ... you would get what is happening there, in the Middle East entom

[Shurik70]

Quote: Krasnodar

how he signed the peace and established diplomatic relations - he was afraid of the Egyptian response

Times change.
Previously, the loss of a couple of planes during the bombing of an airfield was simply epic luck.
Now the loss of ONE plane is just a nightmare and a political crisis

[Krasnodar]

No, this is not a nightmare or a political crisis, there are a lot of questions to both the pilot and the squadron commander, etc.

[3danimal]

Israel himself raised this enemy and carefully watched so that hatred did not fade away

That is, the ideological and financial support of a number of Arab countries (which turned out to be the worst fighters and lost "in the open field") did not contribute to this?
The fanatic does not need to be given reasons to hate you, he was so trained by the "mentors", the mullahs.

[Sanichsan]

Quote: 3danimal

The fanatic does not need to be given reasons to hate you, he was so trained by the "mentors", the mullahs.

exactly? are you sure? And the Israeli insinuations with the transfer of the capital to Jerusalem, at the suggestion of the United States, has nothing to do with it, of course?
let's be honest, all that Israel has around it is equally the merit of the Arabs and the Israelis themselves.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: SanichSan

innuendo with the transfer of the capital to Jerusalem

With what transfer? Transferring what? Someone else's fantasies?
Jerusalem has been registered as the capital of Israel in Israeli law since the declaration of independence and even earlier. Jewish Palestine considered its capital exclusively Jerusalem.
Moreover, all structures of supreme power have always been in Jerusalem, and from nowhere there were not "transported".
And the gesture of recognition from the United States (and other countries) is diplomatic rivierans.
Whose opinion about the Israeli capital is irrelevant. There is a law established by the sovereign on his own land, and someone else's opinion on this matter has no influence.
And the ambassadors of all countries, regardless of their opinion work with the Foreign Ministry in Jerusalem... Komprenda?

[Shurik70]

Quote: And Us Rat

With what transfer? Transferring what?

But he regularly moves the border. Expands, "aligns".
And remember how the current crisis began. Several Arab families were thrown out of their homes and told that now Jews will live here.

[zenion]

Who did it so that the missiles would fly from there? Start with the fact that there was no reason for the flight of missiles, but the reason was created, who created? Who was not allowed to pray and who was beaten with truncheons?

[Revolver]

Quote: 3danimal

Somebody said: "The war will end when Arabs love their children more than they hate Jews."

Golda Meir

[Alex777]

Who's to blame? Anglo-Saxons!

Yes of course.
Anglo-Saxons cursed Ariel Sharon on the plane? Not.

[yehat2]

drones are a leisurely weapon, besides, they are difficult to use en masse
Much faster, in general terms, to give an assignment to the pilot, prepare the plane and make a flight
especially since in Israel
however, I have huge doubts about the quality of information about one and a half hundred targets.

[Patigorsk2020]

Quote: oleg1263

If the second option is not clear why drones are not used ...

very good question.

[Maki Avellevich]

A rare drone will take a 250 kg bomb. Not to mention 500 kg

[g1v2]

Unmanned aerial vehicles have much less load. It's one thing to launch a rocket at a piece of equipment, and another thing to drop 4 bombs on capital buildings. The question is actually different. Why Qatar and Turkey haven’t supplied Hamas with anti-aircraft missile systems. And if they did, then why are they not using them yet. Several ambushes with MANPADS on the roofs of high-rise buildings have seriously increased the cost of the operation for Israel.

[Rageee]

firstly, because, as a rule, MANPADS are useless against modern airplanes .. they are already too low in height, and it is not particularly problematic to deceive a MANPADS missile or confuse it.
secondly, Qatar and Turkey did not even supply the Syrian opposition with anti-tank missile systems, because the United States and Co. would have paid a hat for that. So Hamas will not be delivered any more.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: g1v2

Why Qatar and Turkey haven’t supplied Hamas with anti-aircraft missile systems.

Why didn't they? They delivered (Iran unofficially) a couple of dozen (Soviet "Igla"). And Hamas even tried to use them a couple of times, with sad consequences for itself.

Quote: g1v2

Several ambushes with MANPADS on the roofs of skyscrapers

Absolutely useless, Hamas has already learned this lesson. MANPADS are dangerous only for simple drones, civil aviation or dilapidated air forces of third world countries.
Since the late 80s, the Israeli Air Force has been equipped with means of suppressing the GOS (something like the Russian L-370 Vitebsk, only tested in combat operations).
Syria with all its S-300 and Armor is powerless in front of the Israeli Air Force, and you mean MANPADS, it's not even funny.

[Essex62]

Are you serious about Syria? The reason for the "resilience" of the IDF aircraft is in the Kremlin office.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Essex62

Are you serious about Syria? The reason for the "resilience" of the IDF aircraft is in the Kremlin office.

Do not repeat other people's nonsense. With each raid, the Syrians hammer from the air defense in all directions, like victims, and in all the time they hit only once (not counting the Russian IL), and that was due to the carelessness of the pilot, who relaxed and turned off the electronic warfare systems of individual protection early.
They cannot get in, because Israel surpasses them by an order of magnitude in everything, strategy, tactics, technique, training, and so on. Hence the stories about "intercepting the means of attack", in which targets in Syria are still confidently hit every time. Tales about the "hand of Moscow" were invented by those who are scared to admit the depth of the chasm between the military capabilities of Syria and Israel, since this raises uncomfortable questions about the capabilities of Russia itself and the weapons systems it produces.

[Dart2027]

Quote: And Us Rat

With each raid, the Syrians hammer from the air defense in all directions, like victims

By planes in Israel? Or those that emerge from behind the mountains (often from the territory of Lebanon) launch rockets and immediately hide behind the mountains?

Quote: And Us Rat

Hence the stories about "intercepting the means of attack", in which the targets in Syria,

That is, when the air defense of Israel (a fully working system) is unable to completely intercept all the homemade "type missiles" that are launched into the world - this is just a working moment, and when the air defense of Syria (which is, in fact, such is conditionally) cannot intercept all the high-tech means that it is fired upon - does this indicate its worthlessness?

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Dart2027

which emerge from the mountains

They hit targets on the other side of Syria. Do you really believe in these cliches?

Quote: Dart2027

unable to completely intercept all homemade "types of missiles",

Is there a complex that gives a 100% guarantee? I think that the number of missiles that have broken through out of 2000 speaks for themselves. You have an educational program on these "typaracts", at least for the sake of decency, in order to understand what you are talking about.

[Dart2027]

Quote: And Us Rat

Do you really believe in these cliches?

That is, the Israeli Air Force does not do that? Seriously?

Quote: And Us Rat

I think that the number of missiles that broke through from 2000

Are there units? Moreover, they are uncontrollable and a significant part of them flies into the desert altogether.

Quote: And Us Rat

You are an educational program on these "types"

So what kind of high-tech missiles are the Palestinians using?

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Dart2027

That is, the Israeli Air Force does not do that? Seriously?

This is the tactic of the 70s. Today's technologies make it possible not to bother so much when operating against an adversary on the level of Syria.
In addition, glide bombs require a high altitude to launch. You can't launch them from a jump, especially on targets, next to which there are no mountains.
Just a tale about mountains, the most convenient excuse for the question of why the Syrian air defense systems are so helpless.
In fact, the key is in electronic warfare and defense systems capable of protecting Israeli aircraft from everything that Syria has. The fact that Israel does not advertise them, like the Russian Federation, does not mean that they do not exist. He just doesn't sell them, so he doesn't advertise them.

Quote: Dart2027

Are there units? Moreover, they are uncontrollable and a significant part of them flies into the desert altogether.

Out of 2000, no more than 20-25 damage was caused, Israel has very dense buildings, where the bulk of the shelling falls, there is no desert. About 25% fly past the cities. Do not think that Hamas consists exclusively of crooked fools.

Quote: Dart2027

So what kind of high-tech missiles are the Palestinians using?

[Dart2027]

Quote: And Us Rat

Today's technologies make it possible not to bother so much when operating against an adversary on the level of Syria.

And that is why periodically there were articles about how the Israeli Air Force launched strikes from the territory of Lebanon?

Quote: And Us Rat

Also, gliding bombs

That is, nothing other than them is used? Are all the missile reports from another planet?

Quote: And Us Rat

Missile flight range

Searched the picture
https://www.bbc.com/russian/features-57115491
On the third day of shelling, the Israeli army reported that of the 200-plus rockets fired by Palestinians, about XNUMX fell in the Gaza Strip. Perhaps this is evidence of problems with the quality of products of the Hamas military-industrial complex, which consists of scattered semi-handicraft workshops.
That is, 20% did not fly anywhere at all, of the remaining 25% fly into the desert.
Super quality.
And they hardly have a lot of long-range Iranian-made missiles.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Dart2027

And that is why periodically there were articles about how the Israeli Air Force launched strikes from the territory of Lebanon?

And who is checking the veracity of these articles? Or do you expect from the openly hostile to Israel Anna News objective coverage of the actions of the "Zionist enemy"? Do you need to have a drop of critical thinking?

Quote: Dart2027

That is, nothing other than them is used?

Rarely, bombs are cheap and the bomb has the best mass-to-payload ratio. All buildings are hit with bombs. A cruising range of 100 km when starting from 10.000 m, allows you to do this without unnecessary risk. Missiles are used against air defenses, if necessary. There is also a Rampage missile (something like a Dagger, only more feed), but it also requires a high-altitude launch for an effective range. CDs are definitely not being used in vain - they are for a more serious enemy, spending them on sheds with gunpowder is unjustifiably expensive.
Here is the standard load for ground strikes, tanks, bombs (there are different ones), explosive missiles, and RER / EW pylons:

Quote: Dart2027

That is, 20% did not fly anywhere at all, of the remaining 25% fly into the desert.

Even with these numbers, 55% remains. That is, 1100 missiles out of 2000. Missing, even 30 missiles, is 2.7%. That is, the system intercepted 97.3% of the missiles that flew into settlements. It's useless to argue with mathematics.
90% of Hamas missiles are Grad clones (up to 55km)

[Dart2027]

Quote: And Us Rat

Or do you expect from the openly hostile to Israel Anna News objective coverage of the actions of the "Zionist enemy"? Do you need to have a drop of critical thinking?

That is, I have to take on faith only what the interested parties from Israel say about Israel, and this is called critical thinking? By the way, I don’t remember something that any of your compatriots ever denied this (strikes from the Lebanese government).

Quote: And Us Rat

That is, the system intercepted 97.3% of the missiles that flew into settlements.

Which were outright rubbish, with which you are no longer trying to argue. Achievement however.

Quote: And Us Rat

90% of Hamas missiles are Grad clones

The Grad missiles are just iron tubes with explosives, which have no control system at all, do not change trajectory, and represent an ideal target.

Quote: And Us Rat

A cruising range of 100 km when starting from 10.000 m, allows you to do this without unnecessary risk.

Six Israeli planes on Wednesday night F-16, while in Lebanese airspace, launched 16 guided bombs through the territory west of Damascus. 14 of them repelled Syrian air defense systems. Two hit the logistics center of the Syrian army, damaging the ammunition depot.
https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/3843623
That is, bombs from Lebanon.
And, by the way, not only "Anna" wrote about missile strikes on Syria.

[Shahno]

# Grad missiles are just iron tubes with explosives, which have no control system at all, do not change trajectory, and represent an ideal target. #
I do not understand how this indicates the inefficiency of Kipat Barzel. To remove all air threats, the division of defense into "echelons" is usually used.

[Dart2027]

Quote: Shahno

I do not understand how this indicates the inefficiency of Kipat Barzel.

The point is that he has to fight with the most simple goals, and it all started with

Quote: And Us Rat

Tales about the "hand of Moscow" were invented by those who are scared to admit the depth of the chasm between the military capabilities of Syria and Israel, since this raises uncomfortable questions about the capabilities of Russia itself and the weapons systems it produces.

That is, the traditional boasting that they say air defense in Russia sucks, but they have it U-U-U !!!

Quote: Shahno

To remove all air threats, the division of defense into "echelons" is usually used.

I am aware, but this question should be addressed to the leadership of the IDF.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Dart2027

That is, the traditional boasting that they say air defense in Russia sucks, but they have it U-U-U !!!

It's all lyrics. The game is aimed at the result. And the result is clear as day.

[Dart2027]

Quote: And Us Rat

Quote: Dart2027

That is, the traditional boasting that they say air defense in Russia sucks, but they have it U-U-U !!!

It's all lyrics. The game is aimed at the result. And the result is clear as day.

And the result is that your vaunted LCD did not show anything outstanding, and all the boasting that was, for example, after the empty Shell, either destroyed, or simply knocked out, now looks completely stupid.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Dart2027

And the result is ...

That a crowd of Arabs with stones in Lod caused more damage than 2000 rockets from Gaza.

Quote: Dart2027

standing empty carapace

Why did you modestly keep silent about the video in which he is actively trying to shoot?

[Dart2027]

Quote: And Us Rat

That a crowd of Arabs with stones in Lod

And about the crowds of Jews who also shout and not only "death to the Arabs" do not remember?

Quote: And Us Rat

about the video on which he is actively trying to shoot?

And how many missiles / drones / bombs were destroyed (I don't know what they attacked him with) before they hit him? Something was modestly silent about the forces used against a single machine. Moreover, for its destruction it took a weapon more serious than iron pipes.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Dart2027

And how many missiles / drones / bombs were destroyed (I don't know what they attacked him with) before they hit him?

And how many?

Quote: Dart2027

Moreover, for its destruction it took a weapon more serious than iron pipes.

And what, someone destroyed the LCD with an iron pipe?

You don't have to answer, I see that you have started empty demagoguery, but I am no longer interested in such a dialogue format.
Good evening.

[Dart2027]

Quote: And Us Rat

And how many?

That's interesting, judging by the fact that there were no victorious reports in the spirit of "one blow".

Quote: And Us Rat

And what, someone destroyed the LCD with an iron pipe?

Quote: Dart2027

On the third day of shelling, the Israeli army reported that of the 200-plus rockets fired by Palestinians, about XNUMX fell in the Gaza Strip. Perhaps this is evidence of problems with the quality of products of the Hamas military-industrial complex, which consists of scattered semi-handicraft workshops.

Tell us about the "high-tech weapon" that attacks the hole ... Iron Dome.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Dart2027

Tell us

I won't. There is not the slightest desire to poke around in your speculations. Good luck.

[Dart2027]

Quote: And Us Rat

I will not.

Because he is not.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Dart2027

Because he is not.

I will not break your illusions.

[Dart2027]

Quote: Dart2027

Because he is not.

[And Us Rat]

I see that the dispute itself is more interesting for you than the truth. Good luck.

[Dart2027]

Quote: And Us Rat

I see that the dispute itself is more interesting for you than the truth.

I have provided specific links to specific posts. Apparently it is impossible to dispute.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Dart2027

I have provided specific links to specific posts. Apparently it is impossible to dispute.

And there is nothing to dispute. These are links to version... Without the slightest reliance on official sources. And the version may turn out to be a delusion.
I operate with first-hand information, what I saw myself, if this does not suit you, I will not impose it on you. But do not ask me to take your versions seriously, for me this is absurd.

[Dart2027]

Quote: And Us Rat

And there is nothing to dispute.

Said a man who can not bring anything at all except his own statements.

Quote: Dart2027

That is, I have to take on faith only what the interested parties from Israel say about Israel, and this is called critical thinking?

Quote: And Us Rat

Without the slightest reliance on official sources.

Official sources of whom? Only Israel? Let's say that they are not in a hurry with victorious reports.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Dart2027

Said a man who can not bring anything at all except his own statements.

Duc, it is you who say that "everything is bad with us and we will all die."
And I sit on a picnic, grill a kebab and get drunk with such statements. After all, with my eyes I see something completely different around.
If you want the truth, divide by 7, everything that is said in the media. Divide the whipping up of drama by 20.

[Dart2027]

Quote: And Us Rat

Duc, it is you who say that "everything is bad with us and we will all die."

I don’t know whether you will die or not, but I don’t see any objections with links to any sources.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Dart2027

with links

Here's a cool link.

[Dart2027]

Quote: And Us Rat

Here is a cool link

Really cool.
I go into the description and read that this is a view of Tel Aviv... While there is shelling Of Jerusalem... As far as I know, there are about 60 kilometers between them. And it also says that in Jerusalem the parliament was evacuated to the sound of sirens.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Dart2027

And it also says that in Jerusalem the parliament was evacuated to the sound of sirens.

Listen to you - it's some kind of Stalingrad.
The Knesset is a reinforced concrete box with thick walls and security rooms.
It was commissioned in 1966, when the threat of an Arab air raid was an everyday reality. He will be evacuated unless there is a threat of a nuclear strike.

[Dart2027]

Quote: And Us Rat

Listen to you - it's some kind of Stalingrad.

Me? I went through Your link and read what was written there... I understand that you have not read at all what are you referring to?

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Dart2027

I followed your link and read

Read the video?
Stop the planet, I will step off.

[Dart2027]

Quote: And Us Rat

Read the video?

That is, you do not even know that the videos on YouTube also have a description under them?

Quote: Dart2027

I understand that you have not read at all what are you referring to?

[Essex62]

Blessed is he who believes. ... By the way about the political officer, these guys, for the most part, were from yours.
The conceit of your Jews is higher than the Hill of Sinai. There was no need to wash, your left movement is highly developed. They hoped to be included in the sphere in serious offices over time. Moreover, we have created your collective farm in order to get rid of our more people there. And they, you see
they turned out to be cunning assholes, they did not run, the coup muddied and now everyone is in the aligarchs. For the time being.
Live, rejoice and dismiss the Arabs while the health is enough. And there is no need to belittle the capabilities of Russian weapons. You ask your chief why he runs to ours.
To kill blacks is not an indicator, although I agree that your army is excellent.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Essex62

You have arrogance

There is no need to look for a speck in someone else's eye, to your imperial aplomb, we are as to the moon.

Quote: Essex62

They hoped to include in serious offices over time.

Yes, arrogance let down, because you can't decide for others.

Quote: Essex62

And there is no need to belittle the capabilities of Russian weapons.

Nobody belittles anything, I say it as it is. The Soviet systems of the 1980s are practically powerless against the systems of the 2020s, they are corny outdated. It would be strange, if it were otherwise, then there would be no point in developing new systems in Russia. Common sense. Or did you expect that the Syrians would kill a tank with a saber, just because it was forged in Russia?

Quote: Essex62

Killing blacks is not an indicator, although I agree that your army is excellent.

Exactly, not an indicator, although you are doing the same in Syria. And put your army in order, I don't know how it is inside, but I watched the parade on May 9 with pleasure.
The guys from the MTR in Syria are especially pleasing to the eye of the old saboteur, it is clear that they began to take care of them, equip them humanly.
And then on the photo of the DRG of the times of the Chechen companies and 08.08.08/XNUMX/XNUMX without a mat I could not look.

[Essex62]

Take a look at our territory and history, well, how can it be without imperial ambitions. No one can deprive the state of Israel of the right to defend itself, the world will be bourgeois or proletarian, too, no one has the right. How the situation will turn out, so far, as it is. Aligarhat-s.
The RF Armed Forces are in order now, you are right. The only thing I support is in the actions of the current government. The excessively inflated CA in the 80s of tasks, did not solve global problems, it ate money not measuredly. The more modest Armed Forces could have been coldly opposed to the Freemasons. Our current leaders are rational people, which is neither good news.

[Alex777]

Why Qatar and Turkey haven’t supplied Hamas with anti-aircraft missile systems.

They didn’t put it because they don’t want the States to cut their ears off at the root.

[g1v2]

Turkey kicked the US out of northern Syria. Despite all the pressure, she did not abandon the deal with c400. Qatar actively armed and sponsored the same banned ISIS. And then the United States is directly afraid?

[Alex777]

Turkey kicked the US out of northern Syria.

You are exaggerating. IMHO. Yes, Kurds got it.
Fighting battles between the Turks and the Yankees were? Not.
Both Turks and Yankees were in the Aleppo defense headquarters.

Qatar actively armed and sponsored the same banned ISIS.

ISIS is banned here. IMHO the States created it so that, under the pretext of fighting it, they would solve their issues.
So here Qatar is in the wings of the United States.
By the way, have you seen a lot of MANPADS from ISIS?

And then the United States is directly afraid?

Qatar exists until the United States withdraws the base.
The Saudis will then gladly push them.
The Turks also do not anger the States unnecessarily. They are afraid.

[g1v2]

Nobody considers Kurds as well as Arabs. It was Turkey that forced the United States to withdraw from a whole bunch of bases in northern Syria. After the entry of Turkish troops, mattresses began to withdraw their units from there. And our and Syrian units partially entered these bases. Especially there was an epic video of our military commander from an abandoned American base, where everything was thrown - even personal belongings. And on the blackboard, American soldiers left insults for us and Trump. It was funny, especially the American comments under the video and the reaction to it. The United States was definitely not going to fight the second NATO army for the sake of some kind of Kurds.
A Turkish base protects Qatar from the Saudis. And Qatar is actively helping Erdogan's party with money. The US PM is secondary here. Plus Qatar has now established relations with us and Iran. This is not something that the US approves of.

[Alex777]

In general, I agree.
But the Turks had no clashes with the Yankees.
The Yankees received the command to retreat and retreated.
The Pentagon and the CIA in Syria support different groups.
And they are fighting among themselves. We also had enough such stories.
Qatar is still holding on to the States.

The US military base El Udeid is located in Qatar with the largest US military contingent in the Middle East.
It is home to the headquarters of the US Central Command and the country's Air Force Command. According to CNN, about 11 American troops are stationed at the base.
Al Udeid is home to one of the longest airstrips in the Persian Gulf, which can accommodate up to 120 aircraft at a time. The Combined Air Operations Center of the US Air Force at the base controls flights of military aircraft in Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan and 17 other countries.

3000 Turks based in Qatar is good, but few compared to the States.

[g1v2]

The States will not fight the Saudis. They don't care what country will be around their base. And for the Turks, Qatar is a wallet in many ways. Plus the Khashogi case, plus they support various groups in Syria with the Saudis. The Turks will calmly strengthen their base in Qatar if something happens.

[Alex777]

If the second option is not clear why drones are not used ...

Everything is just like a corner of a house: what is the combat load of the UAV and what is the fighter?

[smart fellow]

Bombs are cheaper. The opponent has no AA defense.

[Trapp1st]

Israeli aviation strikes at launch sites

What are the launch pads? Did they say that any tripod made of rods is already a launching pad? Did you bent the fittings by aviation?

[Alex777]

Aviation struck underground Hamas launch sites, from where shelling of the central part of Israel was conducted.

Anyway, the Arabs put the Israelis on very serious money. And until they calmed down. Continue to do this.

[private person]

Anyway, the Arabs put the Israelis on very serious money.

Yeah, you put the Jews on the grandmother. They figured out in advance how many Arabs they would send to another world and what they would get from this. Is that why the world community is silent? Really and directly Jews rule the world.

[Alex777]

When I talk about big money, I mean the cost:
- missile defense missiles,
- sorties of military aviation (flight hour F-16 ~ $ 18000, the rest are even more expensive),
- aviation precision ammunition,
- redeployment of troops,
- suppression of fire by ground means,
- restoration of the destroyed, etc., etc.

Yeah, you put the Jews on the grandmother.

For me, Israelis are concrete, normal people I know well.
And for you, apparently, the world behind the scenes?

[3danimal]

sorties of combat aviation (flight hour F-16 ~ $ 18000, the rest are even more expensive),

In the USA, the flight hour of the F-16 is much less, about $ 8500. But the F-15 (C / D / E) costs $ 17-21 thousand.
You probably meant the latter.

https://comptroller.defense.gov/Portals/45/documents/rates/fy2019/2019_b_c.pdf

[Alex777]

The table was compiled on the basis of several articles published in the April 2014 issue of the "Air International" magazine.

Aircraft type Cost of a flight hour, USD
Reconnaissance aircraft U-2 ......... 30813
Fighter F-22A ............... 68363
F-15C Fighter.................................. 41921 F-16C Fighter.................................. 22514

https://bmpd.livejournal.com/815030.html

[3danimal]

I cited an excerpt from the 2019 US budget documents, it should be more reliable

[Alex777]

bmpd is quite a reputable source.
There are many different others, with the same numbers.
English-language documents are difficult to take into account.
It is not clear what they are investing in these numbers.
You need to know exactly the special terminology.
Assuming what they mean is risky.
I have a fair amount of personal experience in this regard.
Sincerely ...
PS In theory, the older the plane, the more expensive the departure should be. (2014-2019)
ZYY The cost of departure in the States and in Israel can also be different, so I underestimated my figure (18000) a little.

[3danimal]

English-language documents are difficult to take into account.

You just have to read them. “Memorandum for the Assistant Minister of the Army” (subordinate to the Minister of Defense), “Hourly Rates”. "Relevant as of October 1, 2018"
I repeat: this is the closest document to the truth (we are so lucky that the law obliges them to publish such data for citizens, albeit with a delay of a couple of years)

[3danimal]

What do they have from the downed missiles? Saved lives of compatriots.
Perhaps you find it difficult to imagine that in a certain country this could matter?

Is that why the world community is silent?

He is not silent: developed countries supported Israel.
Terrorists Islamic radicals (such as those who blew up OUR passenger plane over Sinai) launch rockets in the evening “about residential areas”, hoping to kill more civilians. They are not interested in military objectives. Only terror.
The Israelis are trying to hit the installations, destroy the commanders and bombers. They are fighting terrorists.
Do you see the difference?

[Revolver]

And to put it simply, then:
Israel uses rockets to protect civilians.
Arabs use civilians to protect missiles.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: private person

Is that why the world community is silent?

Apparently because he thinks with brains, and not with Soviet propaganda about the "Israeli military". And he understands who is a terrorist in this picture, and who is protecting his people.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Trapp1st

Israeli aviation strikes at launch sites

What are the launch pads? Did they say that any tripod made of rods is already a launching pad? Did you bent the fittings by aviation?

H'm. Twigs are you talking about?

[credo]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

H'm. Twigs are you talking about?

Are you saying that the Palestinians are already shooting at you from such installations?

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: credo

Quote: Aron Zaavi

H'm. Twigs are you talking about?

Are you saying that the Palestinians are already shooting at you from such installations?

So 10 years ago, but what?

[Charik]

Is it true that they hit the chemical plant? It is dangerous if the chemistry gets out.

[credo]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

So 10 years ago, but what?

Maybe the old footage is broadcast on TV, but the impression is that each rocket from Gaza flies from different places, without any accuracy. And with such an installation, a certain square of the firing area should be covered.

[OgnennyiKotik]

Quote: credo

Maybe the old footage is broadcast on TV

Well, you give, who watches TV these days? Take care of your health, you don't need to do this.

Quote: credo

without any accuracy.

They obviously work from MLRS. Here is a non-TV video:

[Boratsagdiev]

there is the same version of the video, where it is "sounded" that it works "iron dome"

[A. Privalov]

Quote: BoratSagdiev

there is the same version of the video, where it is "sounded" that it works "iron dome"

So.
Each flash is a destroyed Hamas missile.

[bayard]

With such an intensity of air defense / missile defense, no missiles will be enough.
But the picture is really impressive.

[A. Privalov]

Quote: bayard

With such an intensity of air defense / missile defense, no missiles will be enough.
But the picture is really impressive.

Let's hope that there are enough missiles in stock.

[bobwings]

And the assembly lines are overtime working.

[Boratsagdiev]

It is precisely in such cases that lasers would come in handy.
Instant retargeting and the ability to work on multiple targets.
It seems that successful work has long been carried out (in Israel) to destroy MLRS missiles with a laser beam.

[Boratsagdiev]

sometimes I am surprised at human savagery and ignorance, for others I probably discover fantastic distances and not the realities of life (which was sometimes confirmed)

[hrych]

Quote: A. Privalov

Each outbreak is a destroyed Hamas missile

Is not a fact. Firstly, the SAM has a self-liquidator, so that it does not fall on its head. Secondly, the Kupol missile defense system has a proximity fuse and it is not a fact that the target is hit. With a direct hit of even a kinetic warhead with two Petriot missiles in the Iraqi Scud, it successfully hit the target. The main merit in the small number of victims is the Qassama curves and the illiterate calculations of the rocket modellers Although if a chemical enterprise is struck, then new Ibn Tsiolkovsky grows

[A. Privalov]

Quote: hrych

Is not a fact. Firstly, the SAM has a self-liquidator, so that it does not fall on its head. Secondly, the Kupol missile defense system has a proximity fuse and it is not a fact that the target is hit. With a direct hit of even a kinetic warhead with two Petriot missiles in the Iraqi Scud, it successfully hit the target. The main merit in the small number of victims is the Qassam curves and the illiterate calculations of the rocket modelers.Although if they hit a chemical enterprise, then new Ibn Tsiolkovskys grow

Your train of thought is clear. We have already heard something similar, they say, Israel defeated the Arabs not because they fought well, but because the Arabs fought badly.
Now, Hamas missiles are being shot down by the Iron Dome, not because it works well, but because "the Kassam curves and the illiterate calculations of the rocket modelers."

In fact, everything is simpler here, if from a volley of 130 Hamas missiles destroyed by the Iron Dome right in front of your eyes, only a few reach the target, then it should be admitted that the Israeli air defense is working quite well. During these days, hundreds and hundreds of such missiles have been destroyed. Without LCD, human and material losses would have been much higher.

[hrych]

And what, the Kassams are doing anti-aircraft maneuvering? Do they have a flat or quasi-ballistic trajectory? Maybe they go around the terrain? Is there electronic countermeasures? Maybe they have a GOS? Hypersound? Not? So, primitive, unguided rockets fired hastily from primitive guides without ballistic calculations. Or is it not so? The Jews themselves announced that the Dome calculates the trajectory and simply passes the sewer pipe without attacking, if the trajectory does not threaten the infrastructure. Those. initial calculation for Qassam curvature And you will now rub me in about the Hamas super-missiles.

[A. Privalov]

Quote: hrych

And what, the Kassams are doing anti-aircraft maneuvering? Do they have a flat or quasi-ballistic trajectory? Maybe they go around the terrain? Is there electronic countermeasures? Maybe they have a GOS? Hypersound? Not? So, primitive, unguided rockets fired hastily from primitive guides without ballistic calculations. Or is it not so? The Jews themselves announced that the Dome calculates the trajectory and simply passes the sewer pipe without attacking, if the trajectory does not threaten the infrastructure. Those. initial calculation for Qassam curvature

Exactly. It's as simple as the corner of a house. But no one anywhere was able to do anything, not even close.
And now you will rub the game into me about the fact that nowhere and no one needs such a device.

[hrych]

Quote: A. Privalov

But no one anywhere was able to do anything, not even close.

A bold, promotional statement. We have the entire line of missiles, including the complexes - Pantsir, Thor and Vityaz S-350. Moreover, the Dome is much more mobile, besides the radar, with an optical-electronic complex for detection, tracking and aiming. And so, on little things, such as a mobile, anti-aircraft, combat laser.

Quote: A. Privalov

nowhere and no one needs such a device

Well, such shelling between neighborhoods and collective farms is really rare anywhere. Such is your lack of statehood.

[A. Privalov]

This state is already 73. For the USSR, it was 1990. A year will pass and the USSR will become history, and Israel, oh, how will it fight.

As for your line, we already know what happened to the poor Carapaces, and everything else, this whole set has never really worked anywhere else. And the "combat anti-aircraft laser" is nothing more than a legend. In addition to the cartoon, there is nothing.

[hrych]

Firstly, you can call it an Empire, even a USSR, the state has not gone anywhere. As Russia was, it remained. Well, over a millennium, the colonies will fall off, then they will be added, etc. Even legally in the UN, the Russian Federation is the official successor of the USSR. Israel will certainly not fight for a long time. In this century it will surely be blown up. Armor - in addition to successfully guarding a stationary object, such as the Khmeimim base, it works directly in hostilities with aviation, OTR and attack UAVs. Already more versatile. They buy it with great pleasure. If Hamas had full-fledged weapons that Pantsir worked with, then you would have had a hard time. A stationary Dome for elimination by a decently equipped army is not a great task. There is something to break through your air defense / missile defense, and not only with us. A combat laser was voiced by the President and his US satellites were photographed next to the ICBM mines. And the Legend is biblical stories.

[Alex777]

Citizen Privalov, how to put it in Russian .. is biased! Here.

[A. Privalov]

Quote: hrych

If Hamas had full weapons,

If my grandmother had testicles, she would be a grandfather.
I'm embarrassed to ask, was it on Khmeimim that the Pantsir fought against full-fledged weapons?
In a word, my dear Hrych, an attempt to troll is not credited. For your arguments are nothing more than idle chatter. I dare not delay any longer.

[Dart2027]

Quote: A. Privalov

it was on Khmeimim that the Pantsiri fought against full-fledged weapons

Well, they not only stand there
https://rg.ru/2020/04/20/panciri-uspeshno-ohotiatsia-na-tureckie-udarnye-bespilotniki-v-livii.html

[hrych]

Mr. Privalov, Khmeimim was attacked not with Kassams, but mainly with factory unguided rockets of Grad and others (of which there are plenty in the collapse and looting of ATS stocks) and drones. The former are similar to the Kassams, but the target is a little more difficult, the latter fly low, bend around the terrain, etc. Although the speed is lower, the trajectory and altitude are more difficult. They are engaged in the Pantsir-S1 air defense missile system and the Tor-M2 air defense missile system, besides the electronic warfare systems, which do not allow remote control of drones. In general, the situation with Khmeimim is practically similar to yours, unless the area of ​​the object is less, but the concentration of enemy, attacking systems on it is greater. What is there to troll if it's a fact. And the cover of columns by the Carapace on the march in military operations against formations with aviation and armored vehicles, by the same Beyraktar, undoubtedly favorably distinguishes it against the Dome. Its high mobility, and with regards to the Thor's mobility and all-terrain vehicle, expands the possibilities significantly. And they buy Armor mainly for this, for military operations, and not for protecting the kibbutz from a neighboring Arab village

Quote: A. Privalov

For your arguments are nothing more than idle chatter.

And your chatter is intense And good luck to you and not get hit by Kassam

[Dart2027]

Quote: A. Privalov

we already know what happened to the poor people with Shells

And that they failed the shelling of home-made non-missiles like your LCD?

[Butchcassidy]

Quite a strange conclusion, given that Stalin gave the go-ahead for the creation of Israel. The bourgeois counter-revolution in the 90s is slowly declining. Let's wait and see what happens next. The most interesting thing will begin for the security of Israel after the end of the open phase of hostilities, when the Israeli elite begins to eat each other without horseradish and salt, blaming who is to blame for what. "That kingdom that is divided within itself will not stand."

[And Us Rat]

Quote: A. Privalov

they say Israel defeated the Arabs not because they fought well, but because the Arabs fought badly.
Now, Hamas missiles are shot down by the Iron Dome, not because it works well, but because "the Qassam curves and illiterate calculations

Apparently, Soviet pilots were shot down over Sinai, and the air defense in Bekaa under the leadership of Soviet advisers was defeated, for the same reason - they did not know how to fight and were illiterate.
Hrych is an old political instructor, does not like the "Israeli military", he can’t eat.

[hrych]

First, an instructor is a teacher. He himself does not participate in battles. Then the American, French-British and other instructors who taught the Jews need to be protected. And the test pilots of the MiG-25, in addition to reconnaissance, experimented with the Israelis in combat conditions and very successfully. Rather, it was tested taking into account the American military-industrial complex. The best test of the fastest and highest aircraft, which made it possible to turn the MiG-25 into a more advanced and best fighter in the history of mankind - the MiG-31, which has now been combined with the best OTRK Iskander. As a result, something terrible, hypersonic with a strategic range, great versatility, etc. appeared. Thanks to the Israeli locators for fixing the speed record of the MiG-25, which surpassed the SR-71 record by 170 km / h. Although the Americans have finished there, let's change the rules for setting off records, accuse the Russians of doping, but the fact is that ours made him like a standing The star of the unique SR-71 aircraft then actually rolled down. In general, Vietnam and the Arab-Israeli wars influenced the development of world aviation in the Western and Russian blocs. Russia has conquered the dominance of heights and speed, which continues to hold, and the Americans, let's cuddle to the ground, smear in stealth to hide. Moreover, Vietnam was a priority for us, because they are communists, and the Arab regimes are Islamists and nationalists. Also in Vietnam there were not instructors, but directly American contingents. In Vietnam, they piled on the Americans taking into account the Arab experience, and, of course, we also defended Egypt, stopped the Israelis with the threat of using nuclear weapons, transferred them to a war of attrition, where Israel had a hard time. And rightly so, that they concentrated on Vietnam, the Arabs quickly sold themselves to the United States, except for Syria. Therefore, the Americans themselves kicked the Israelis out of the Sinai. And we thanked Syria for its loyalty and now it is our republic. The Arab traitors were killed with our tacit consent. Well, how's the lecture?

Quote: And Us Rat

Hrych is an old political instructor, does not like the "Israeli military", he can’t eat.

Firstly, not old and political instructors are far from me Second, why love the Israeli military? For aggressive behavior? I eat well, but I rather have compassion for the Israelis (ordinary people). I understand that Israel will be destroyed very soon because of its policy. Objectively, Iran, Turkey, Egypt and the Arabian kingdoms have become very strong, they have created professional, equipped and trained armies. Rocket technologies are developing. And Islamic Pakistan and, in fact, Islamic Iran have already acquired nuclear technology. Given the concentration of the population of Gush Dan, the vulnerability is absolute. Also, the development of high-power nuclear torpedoes is a terrible thing for him. These guys won't bother with Poseidons. The suicide bombers will be put on a small submarine and forward.

[And Us Rat]

Hrych, you are scribbling at the wrong address, I didn’t even read it. I have not the slightest desire to disassemble your demagoguery and conjectures again. Trace your tales to those who are interested in them, or even better - start writing science fiction, about alternative history, you already have 3 books of material running up. Be healthy.

[hrych]

Why did you write about me? According to your writings, it is me that you read Secret admirer of creativity

Quote: And Us Rat

Be healthy

And you do not get sick

[And Us Rat]

Quote: hrych

Why did you write about me?

So that people know who they are dealing with.
And yes, I noticed that you surreptitiously walked over all the comments to me, by -3000 points. Thank you for proving that I am right about you.

[hrych]

Quote: And Us Rat

by -3000 points

Wow. This is when I did it? Probably minus a week vigilantly Maybe it's Hamas, and you hung these Kassams on me?

[And Us Rat]

And now the administrator will check and say whether you are or not.

[hrych]

Quote: And Us Rat

And now the administrator will check and say whether you are or not.

For God's sake, check I did not like your comment with the transition to personalities. I put a minus. I have the right

[And Us Rat]

Quote: hrych

I didn't like your comment

We both know that this is a lie, and that you minus to do nasty things. Because you are not capable of honest polemics, but you go to VO to assert yourself at the expense of others.
And your comments are saturated with cheap demagoguery and bawdry.

[hrych]

Listen, I didn’t get personal, I didn’t accuse anyone of minus, I argued with Privalov about SAM. Hopefully in detail. I know very well that the Israelis, Bandera and liberals are minus me. I'm not worried about this. Once allowed to express an opinion by plus-minus, for God's sake. It might get easier.

Quote: And Us Rat

And your comments are saturated with hatred and anger.

I also didn't like this comment. I also disagree with a minus.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: hrych

polemicized

Polemics and demagoguery are two big differences.

Quote: hrych

Hopefully in detail.

Scabrous to ridicule someone else's and idolize your own, you have strange notions of "objectivity".

Quote: hrych

Bandera

And how are you different from them? Is that a camp? According to your rudeness, arrogance and malice, you are their copy.

Quote: hrych

I'm not worried about this.

As lecimer, of course you do not take a steam bath, having a weight advantage. A bloated marshal. I still remember when, before the denomination of the rating, I was a marshal, and you were a colonel. And how you cried to the moderators and wrote nasty things to me in a personal, that they say I'm infringing on you.
What, got it? Aren't you ashamed of yourself?

[hrych]

Quote: And Us Rat

I was a marshal and you were a colonel

This is when 7 warnings at a time slapped me for nothing So the very engagement and pereklinila. Those. it was necessary to remain silent on the atrocities of the type. Figured out who is right and who is the pest

[And Us Rat]

Quote: hrych

This is when 7 warnings at a time slapped me

And again lies and slander, nothing like that happened. Instrumentally, I did not have such an opportunity, I could only edit comments, and only the administrator could issue warnings.

Quote: hrych

Figured out who is right and who is the pest

Sorted it out, continue to revel in your petty revenge for imaginary grievances, pest. If I were you, I would die of shame for my behavior, that's the whole difference between us.

And yet - I then received a marshal contrary to the flag, from the military respected professionals like Kars, for my judgments, and you are on empty slogans - this is the second difference between us.

Py.Sy. And in military matters, you are an amateur.

[hrych]

Yeah. I don't even know how to help you?

[And Us Rat]

Quote: hrych

I don't even know how to help you?

Stop trolling and grow a conscience.

[konstantin68]

Quote: A. Privalov

Each flash is a destroyed Hamas missile.

... or self-detonation of zur is triggered

[A. Privalov]

Quote: konstantin68

... or self-detonation of zur is triggered

I repeat for you again:
If from a volley of 130 Hamas missiles destroyed by the Iron Dome right in front of your eyes, only a few reach the target, then it must be admitted that the Israeli air defense is working quite well. During these days, hundreds and hundreds of such missiles have been destroyed. Without LCD, human and material losses would have been much higher.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: A. Privalov

I repeat for you again:

What for? Well, let them cherish their beliefs, their conjectures will still not affect the real combat capability of the "Dome".
The naked eye can see that they itch to feel their supposed superiority at the expense of belittling others, well, let them push, it's a pity or what? If they themselves do not understand that this is psychological compensation, then this is their sadness.
Those who are confident in their abilities have no need to assert themselves by show-off, especially at the expense of others. And puffing out the cheeks of Khrych and others like him painfully resembles bragging in Arabic. A very similar feature of mentality seems to be.

[Butchcassidy]

Of course it is worthy. But this is not Wunderwaffe, but a specific piece of hardware for solving specific problems. You see, it is not worth comparing in terms of efficiency highly specialized weapons and military equipment, created for a specific theater of military operations, and universal weapons and military equipment.

So here - the LCD or, for example, the Merkava were created in order to defend the state with an area of ​​half the Moscow region. Russia, on the other hand, basically creates universal equipment that has completely different climatic requirements. What makes you think that the LCD system built by Israel can be similarly built in Slovenia or Eswatini? While an echeloned air defense / missile defense system on the basis of equipment supplied by Russia can be created, of course, with the formulation of such a task and proper security. And then what kind of comparison between LCD and Armor are you talking about?

Nobody depreciates the Soviet school and the work of the million Soviet engineers who moved to Israel. But at the same time, superiority in technology is not at all as we would like, but somewhere it is not at all.

Oddly enough, but Israel has difficult prospects, given Trump's departure and turbulence in the United States itself, Israel should turn to a more reliable supplier of security - Russia. If anyone can reconcile Israel with the Arabs and Iran, it is Russia.

[Alexander Romanov]

The dome works great. Probably the best system in the world

[konstantin68]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

The dome works great. Probably the best system in the world

The most belligerent, for sure. So, at least good!

[hrych]

The most belligerent Carapace. Fights in Syria, Libya and Yemen.

[Dalmatia]

Israel has nuclear weapons.
I have a concern if everything is under your control.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Dalmatia

I have a concern if everything is under your control.

It is not necessary to breed a storm in a glass. When the USSR was crumbling and generals were selling whole armies, it was really scary.

[cat Rusich]

Quote: Aaron Zawi

Quote: credo

Quote: Aron Zaavi

H'm. Twigs are you talking about?

Are you saying that the Palestinians are already shooting at you from such installations?

So 10 years ago, but what?

And we started with "twigs"

I do not know what years of the photo.

[Sanichsan]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

So 10 years ago, but what?

you seem to be normal? what 10 years then? from this for the first time on May 11 of this year they fired. You don't want to tell us that Hamas is armed exclusively with the A-120, do you?
By the way, where did they get it? they are no longer exactly water pipes. if things go on like this, they will soon learn in inertial GOS, from which and what is worse ...

[And Us Rat]

Quote: SanichSan

what 10 years then? from this for the first time on May 11 of this year they fired. You don't want to tell us that Hamas is armed exclusively with the A-120, do you?

I don't know 10 or not, but in August 2014 they (equivalent to A-120) already used them.
And they have been producing clones of Grad missiles (40 km) for more than 12 years.

Quote: SanichSan

By the way, where did they get it?

Produced locally from components from Iran. Imported through tunnels on the border with Egypt. Egypt turns a blind eye, bribes and Egypt's unwillingness to fight with Hamas help (they snagged a couple of times, Egypt flooded the tunnels, but to no avail).

Quote: SanichSan

water pipes

Today it is of factory quality, and is still being produced, for attacking nearby settlements.

[Trapp1st]

Are you saying that the Palestinians are already shooting at you from such installations?

Somewhere in the narrow, endlessly dark Palestinian tunnels, with a dim light, I was looking for a way to the top of the newly assembled 9K58 and only the deafening roar of a powerful engine foreshadowed the imminent onset of the apocalypse ...

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Trapp1st

Are you saying that the Palestinians are already shooting at you from such installations?

Somewhere in the narrow, endlessly dark Palestinian tunnels, with a dim light, I was looking for a way to the top of the newly assembled 9K58 and only the deafening roar of a powerful engine foreshadowed the imminent onset of the apocalypse ...

Robots emerged from the smoke and ash of nuclear vaain
And the war began to destroy humanity

[Trapp1st]

H'm. Twigs are you talking about?

So it’s not I, it’s the Moldovans, and as far as I understand, some from Israel. I also found it a little strange, especially the fact that the calculation of the installation, in their opinion, should almost always consist of children.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Trapp1st

H'm. Twigs are you talking about?

So it’s not I, it’s the Moldovans, and as far as I understand, some from Israel. I also found it a little strange, especially the fact that the calculation of the installation, in their opinion, is almost always from children.

Well, in general, the KhMASA and the "Islamic Jihad" have decently trained and well-armed 60 thousand army. So we have a pretty strong opponent.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

Well, in general, the KhMASA and the "Islamic Jihad" have decently trained and well-armed 60 thousand army. So we have a pretty strong opponent.

The clip-on video, sorry, is a murky dregs.
The methods are much more clearly illustrated in the 4th minute here:

This is a "gem-accurate" elimination one from the leaders of the "strong enemy".
So it won't take long to get to carpet bombing.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke

one from the leaders of the "strong enemy".
So it won't take long to get to carpet bombing.

It was sfogom banged in the face of a provakor and a pogromist. Nothing is alive. Today I was indignant on all channels.

[mark2]

It was sfogom banged in the face of a provakor and a pogromist. Nothing is alive. Today I was indignant on all channels.

Pretty boy!
It is about the destruction of a multi-storey building in which, according to the all-powerful MOSSAD, a terrorist lived. As I understand it, he lived there alone. And it was in this house that there was definitely no one at the time of the explosion.

[Revolver]

Quote: Trapp1st

the calculation of the installation in their opinion should almost always consist of children

of themchildren

[Alex777]

Some kind of muddy picture with hay and a warrior at attention ...

[Professor]

Quote: Trapp1st

Israeli aviation strikes at launch sites

What are the launch pads? Did they say that any tripod made of rods is already a launching pad? Did you bent the fittings by aviation?

[PN]

Not sickly they launched production of MLRS there! Evolving however. If they also master the quasi-ballistic flight trajectory, then it will be hard for you ...

[Alex777]

Not sickly they launched production of MLRS there!

This is Iran.

[Alex777]

I have no words. Some exclamation marks ...

[IGOR GORDEEV]

Most likely it will end - everything is as usual. The Palestinians will boggle. The Israelis will bomb. The international community will express concern.

[dauria]

The Palestinians will boggle. Israelis will bomb

The program is completed, to anger the Jews further - to run into a ground sweep. And the new "field commanders" will have to share the humanitarian aid and sponsorship money. And so they reported for the money, they say we do not eat bread for nothing. The wounded "peace man" Jews will be cured in hospitals as always. The dead you can't bring back either those or those .... Israelis, in my opinion, you were a great fool in 2005. Autonomy is autonomy, and you should have control over the top without democratic snot. And it is not the Palestinians who are to blame, it is you who let go of the reins and let the "more nimble and less democratic" take control of them.

[Krasnodar]

Quite right, write everything correctly

[And Us Rat]

Quote: dauria

The program is completed, to anger the Jews further - to run into a ground sweep. And the new "field commanders" will have to share the humanitarian aid and sponsorship money. And so they reported for the money, they say we don't eat bread for nothing.

Only they messed up with the forecast of the consequences along the way. It looks like Israel has decided to hold a show flogging.

Quote: dauria

Israelis, in my opinion you were a great fool in 2005.

On the contrary, it was Sharon's brilliant move. He taught everyone who argued that peace could be achieved by territorial concessions, and removed such stupid ideas from the agenda for generations to come. On the way, I got rid of the burden called Gaza.
Created an ideal training ground for maintaining the army's practical combat experience in controlled conditions. It gave an opportunity for the emergence of a "parquet" enemy useful for the consolidation of society. Created a motivation for the defense industry to develop more and more effective weapons and means of protection. He made many in the world (especially Arab neighbors) see the "Palestinians" without rose-colored glasses, provoking those to show their true motives.
The strategic value of this solution can hardly be overestimated.

[Mountain shooter]

The escalation is evident. How did the Israeli MOSAD allow such a preparation? Tens of thousands of rockets in underground warehouses, underground launch sites, of which there are obviously dozens. Preparation of launching calculations. These are hundreds of knowledgeable people. How could it have been overlooked?

[IGOR GORDEEV]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Preparation of launching calculations. These are hundreds of knowledgeable people. How could it have been overlooked?

rhetorical question? That is why I am sure that they saw, knew, but it was profitable for someone in Israel to bring the situation to such an intensity.

[Professor]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

The escalation is evident. How did the Israeli MOSAD allow such a preparation?

MOSAD is not dealing with Gaza.

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Tens of thousands of rockets in underground warehouses, underground launch sites, of which there are obviously dozens. Preparation of launching calculations. These are hundreds of knowledgeable people. How could it have been overlooked?

Shabak noticed. Start a war?

[NDR-791]

Quote: professor

MOSAD is not dealing with Gaza.

MOSSAD is engaged in everything !!!

Quote: professor

Shabak noticed. Start a war?

And then it did not start ??? Sounds strange. But you, "Professor" sometimes really give out strange things, although sometimes I agree with you

[Professor]

Quote: NDR-791

MOSSAD is engaged in everything !!!

Does NDR know everything?

Quote: NDR-791

And then it did not start ??? Sounds strange. But you, "Professor" sometimes really give out strange things, although sometimes I agree with you

Uh-huh. Himself, shelling Jerusalem.

Quote: dzvero

Start a war?

I read in the news that the ground operation has already begun. True, they refer to the IDF's twitter, so ...

Not. Didn't start. I haven't been called yet.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: professor

Not. Didn't start. I haven't been called yet.

And I was finally released, they say, I became too old, I lost my uniform, I do not hand over the standards.

[Professor]

Quote: And Us Rat

Quote: professor

Not. Didn't start. I haven't been called yet.

And I was finally released, they say, I became too old, I lost my uniform, I do not hand over the standards.

So it’s still not so bad. Otherwise, even you would have been called.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: professor

Quote: And Us Rat

Quote: professor

Not. Didn't start. I haven't been called yet.

And I was finally released, they say, I became too old, I lost my uniform, I do not hand over the standards.

So it’s still not so bad. Otherwise, even you would have been called.

Yah. Not a single infantry brigade was called up.

[dzvero]

Start a war?

I read in the news that the ground operation has already begun. True, they refer to the IDF's twitter, so ...

[A. Privalov]

No, this is idle chatter. The ground operation did not start.

[tralflot1832]

Climbed in the tyrnet, the Palestinians were drawn to the arms suppliers Turkey and Qatar. Maybe something else to get out.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: tralflot1832

Climbed in the tyrnet, the Palestinians were drawn to the arms suppliers Turkey and Qatar. Maybe something else to get out.

Directly or through the gaskets, Ukraine, to which Israel is so pleased to draw, can also.
So are any post-Soviet ones who change weapons standards to NATO ones.

[Alex777]

How did the Israeli MOSAD allow such a preparation? Tens of thousands of rockets in underground warehouses, underground launch sites, of which there are obviously dozens.

The dust will settle - we'll find out. About ten thousand only I doubt it.
So far, the Arabs have launched about 1600. Of these, 400 fell to Gaza.
A contact in the Israeli police talked about the mass demonstrations of the Israelis against Netanyahu and was surprised that the world media did not write anything about it.
Not in the West, not here.
But there were numerous demonstrations almost every day.
If protest activity is thwarted in this way, then it is somehow expensive.

[Charik]

Well, well, Syria is bombed constantly, like so that weapons do not fall into the hands of those who use it against Israel, but here it turns out that it is a conclusion; all these bombings were useless?

[Alex777]

conclusion; were all these bombings useless?

Of course not. Otherwise, everything would have been much worse.

[mark2]

How did the Israeli MOSAD allow such a preparation?

There are such options.
Either the MOSSAD itself has long been resting on its laurels of past victories, stirring up all this by inflating myths and rumors about its beloved in the media, which some geniuses believe that they are investigating on the Internet and, accordingly, relaxed.
Or someone substitutes Benya. She is like that politics.
Either Iran paid and supported it. For all the sins of the Jews lately. And perhaps Syria is connected to the heap. In the place of Bashar, I would have looked for an opportunity to take revenge with someone else's hands, as they love in the civilized world.
On the rights of fantasy: Russia could. In any case, there is a reason. Both for the plane and for delivering the UAV to non-brothers ...

[tralflot1832]

Assad does not supply weapons to the Palestinians, he himself didn’t. The last time in 2010 he delivered, but then probably Israel interrupted all these automobile rocket launchers. At least he gives such information. But the Turks did their best. They have at least forty "cornet" How and where did the Turks buy them? There is a team hodgepodge, even the DPRK was noted.

[max702]

Let Khmeimim be fired on more often .. You look, and you yourself will have to sleep less ...

[Professor]

chemical plant in the Israeli kibbutz Nir-Oz.

Doesn't the kibbutz have a nuclear power plant? Administrators, at least check a little what you post here.

[Paragraph Epitafievich Y.]

Quote: professor

Doesn't the kibbutz have a nuclear power plant?

well, last year's grenade balloons already seem like harmless hooliganism ...

[A. Privalov]

There is a small Nirlat paint factory there. 10 years since it was built.
Considering that more than 80 rockets were fired into this area during these days, the Hamas would very much like to get into it. It is not far. About a kilometer to the border.

[aszzz888]

Professor (Sokolov Oleg)
Yesterday, 14: 49

The militant wing of the Izzaddin al-Qassam Brigade, which controls the Gaza Strip, announced strike on an Israeli chemical plant. This was announced on Friday, May 14, by the editor of the Times of Israel, Emanuel Fabian, on his Twitter page.
It is noted that the attacked the object is located in the kibbutz (settlement) of Nir-Oz... The strike was delivered by a Shihab drone.

A Hamas drone attacked a chemical plant in Israel ... https: //vz.ru ›news
19 hours ago - Hamas drone attacked chemical plant in Israel ... The attacked object is said to be in the kibbutz (settlement) of Nir-Oz... The blow was struck ... Number

Again into the water .. blew ?! Or is it not a fact to you?

A. Privalov (Alexander Privalov)
Yesterday, 15: 43
-1
There is a small Nirlat paint factory.... 10 years since it was built.

No matter how you coordinate your posts with your compatriots))

Krasnodar
Yesterday, 15: 17
+3
[b] There really is a chemical plant in Nir Oz - Nirlat
Produces industrial Paints and Putty with Plaster))

[Professor]

Quote: aszzz888

Again into the water .. blew ?! Or is it not a fact to you?

I don't know where you blew. But what is the "kibbutz (settlement) of Nir-Oz" can be easily learned from open sources. By the way, "kibbutz" and "settlement" are mutually exclusive concepts. For example, as "city" and "village".

And now we are looking for a chemical plant on the map in Kibbutz Nir Oz
https://www.google.com/maps/@31.3124105,34.4012778,1596m/data=!3m1!1e3

PS
Nir Oz is a kibbutz in the Southern Region of Israel, which is home to 340 inhabitants.

[aszzz888]

Professor (Sokolov Oleg)
Today, 08: 22
NEW
... And now we are looking for a chemical plant in kibbutz Nir Oz on the map

Maybe. But, so it was announced in the press. And if there is a factory / plant / enterprise - choose the right one - related to chemical activities, i.e. the same manufacture of paint and other products, such a term is allowed. And it doesn't matter what you call it.

[Professor]

Quote: aszzz888

Maybe. But, so it was announced in the press.

Well yes. Wouldn't the newspaper write the truth?

Quote: aszzz888

And if there is a factory / plant / enterprise - choose the right one - related to chemical activities, i.e. the same manufacture of paint and other products, such a term is allowed. And it doesn't matter what you call it.

Either you stole the fur coat or from you. It doesn't matter what you call it.

[aszzz888]

Professor (Sokolov Oleg)
Today, 10: 07
...Either you stole a fur coat or from you... It doesn't matter what you call it.

comparison, frankly, neither to the village, nor to the city ... As for the "truth in the newspaper." I have a purple parallel - is there a chemical plant there, or is it not there, where do the Qasams fall? You somehow were not particularly concerned about how many victims among the population of Syria, when your flyers bombed it. And therefore, slurp the porridge yourself, which you made yourself.

[Professor]

Quote: aszzz888

comparison, frankly, neither to the village, nor to the city ...

Details are very important. Otherwise, the meaning of the news is lost.

Quote: aszzz888

About the "truth in the newspaper". I have a purple parallel - is there a chemical plant there, or is it not there, where do the Qasams fall?

Then don't write about the chemical plant, and even highlight it in bold.

Quote: aszzz888

You somehow were not particularly concerned about how many victims among the population of Syria when your flyers bombed it. And therefore, slurp the porridge yourself, which you made yourself.

Poke your dad and mom and we don't need your understanding and condolences. At home, figure it out, and then climb with advice to others. Show by your own example how to avoid civilian casualties.

[Vladimir61]

There is that Palestine ... With so many air raids and artillery strikes (over 500), it turns out that HAMAH is the whole of Palestine!

[Charik]

underground "civilization"

[Krasnodar]

There really is a chemical plant in Nir Oz - Nirlat
Produces industrial Paints and Putty with Plaster))

[Professor]

Quote: Krasnodar

There really is a chemical plant in Nir Oz - Nirlat
Produces industrial Paints and Putty with Plaster))

There is no chemical plant there.

[aszzz888]

Professor (Sokolov Oleg)
Today, 08: 23
There is no chemical plant there.

Don't forget to announce to Privalov.

[JonnyT]

160 aircraft in 40 minutes in a narrow space is very serious.

It is very difficult to plan and organize such an operation.
The idea is that Israel has long been to destroy the forces of Hamas where it should have been. Apparently there are a lot of false targets. Hamas is well camouflaged, makes false targets, is able to counteract the thermal imager and dug out truly huge underground communications. Hamas is trying in every possible way to involve Israel in a ground underground operation. Their goal is to inflict maximum damage on the ground forces of Israel, and they are quite capable of that.

[Others]

Quite right))) At night, the IDF conducted a cunning operation to destroy the terrorists and their underground infrastructure. It was like this: first, the official Twitter of the army published a post that the ground forces were starting an operation in Gaza. The tweet was immediately picked up by all the news agencies in the world. Several Israeli journalists, citing two generals, confirmed the "authenticity" of the information. Hamas fighters do not need to be asked to dance twice: they immediately dived into their rat holes around the Sector's perimeter. But the IDF did not even think to enter Gaza. He lifted 160 aircraft into the air and methodically dropped 80 tons of bombs (450 missiles) onto the terrorists' tunnels. It is not yet known how many terrorists were buried in the tunnels, but, apparently, we are talking about hundreds of people. After that, the IDF began to precisely eliminate the militant commanders, who, of course, did not climb into the tunnels themselves. The press service of the army reports about 20 targeted liquidations.

The photo shows that nature abhors emptiness and always fills it.

Gaza City is riddled with a network of tunnels, it is an underground city: kilometers of tunnels that Hamas planned to be used during hostilities, for soldiers to stay there, to move them from place to place, to launch rockets and as headquarters. During the fighting, Hamas fighters remain underground and operate from there, as is already familiar from Operation Unbreakable Rock.

[Trapp1st]

The press service of the army reports about 20 targeted liquidations.

Every time you have one and the same song, they won everyone who needed to be eliminated, and then ... and here it is again.

[JonnyT]

We heard, we know. But it's too early for you to write off the Hamas metro. The blows that were delivered to the entrances, which were spotted by the fighters, brought down 10 percent of the total number of underground communications. And the Hamas people will now be smarter. The shelling will not stop and it will go into the gas. And there, Israel will no longer have total superiority.

[Vadim237]

If Israel Palestine is turned into ruins and they can do it with Lego, almost all Palestinians will escape from there and Hamas will come from Krandets.

[Roman1970_1]

The army press secretary was not clear. So it was understood that a ground operation was beginning. Hamas fighters went down into the tunnels to meet and then began a 40-minute bombing of the tunnels. 160 aircraft, 1000 bombs.
They say there were hundreds of fighters there. How many survived is not clear.
But it was cool if everything is true.
But they say that hundreds died

[konstantin68]

Quote: JonnyT

The idea is that Israel has long been to destroy the forces of Hamas, where

No, it’s impossible to bomb. Ground operation only.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: konstantin68

Ground operation only.

Also far from being a guarantee. They do not have military uniforms (only for show on video), 5 minutes ago - a militant, and then threw a Kalash around the corner - and already a civilian, walked through the block with women and children, took out a new Kalash from the cache - and again a militant.
Moreover, the local population helps them, some out of fear, and some out of solidarity.
This snake's nest can only be cleaned out by occupation and many years of police control, which in turn does not need Israel nafig.

[mark2]

You know what I was thinking. Nobody will blame the Jews for the inadequacy of the use of military force.
They were fired at with homemade products, while being able to land many of them. And they themselves strike with such a mass of aviation on the territory that they cannot even respond to it.
But in a similar situation, Russia has been and is being accused all the time.

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: mark2

They were fired at with homemade products,

This is what you are looking for how to justify the terrorists, but when 2000 missiles fall on your city, including those made in Iran and cover a distance of 250 km, and your friends, acquaintances, God forbid, will be killed or wounded, you will understand what kind of homemade products it is.
All states, including your country SUPPORT ISRAEL IN THE RIGHT TO DEFEND YOUR COUNTRY!

[mark2]

All states, including your country

I do not determine the politics of my country.

when 2000 missiles hit your city

When my city is attacked, I will be for the complete destruction of any culprit and I do not care about the degree of adequacy of force. Let them turn everything into a desert with defoliant and napalm.

made in Iran

Have you already found evidence of Iran's delivery of missiles to Palistine? Can you prove it? Kalashnikov is one of the favorite assault rifles of terrorists. Has Russia supplied them? But Syrian terrorists have repeatedly found weapons of Jewish origin in seized warehouses. Then, according to your logic, Israel is the culprit of what is happening in Syria and with it for a long time.
And no one disputes the right of the Jews. I said that in similar situations my country has been accused of inappropriate use of force.

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: mark2

And have already found evidence of Iranian missile delivery Palistine? Can you prove it?

It's been 31 years since there is no USSR and you have Palestine in your head
NO PALESTINE SINCE 1948
There is a Palestinian Authority on the territory of Israel
And there is a territory of Gaza under the leadership of the terrorist organization Hamas
Yes, this is not news that something is being delayed, but something is not.

Quote: mark2

But Syrian terrorists have repeatedly found weapons of Jewish origin in seized warehouses.

Read on the Internet how many countries buy automatic weapons from Israel.

Quote: mark2

I said that in similar situations my country is accused of inappropriate use of force.

Why only YOURS when a hail of stones and Molotov bottles fly onto a civilian car in which there is a family and the driver kills one of them, the world media, including yours, KILLED NOT ADULT
YOU answered correctly, as it is written in the bible "If someone wants to kill you, get up early and kill him first."
When my city is attacked, I will be for the complete destruction of any culprit and I do not care about the degree of adequacy of force. Let them turn everything into a desert with defoliant and napalm.
YOU must understand
TERRORISTS NOT DEPENDING ON THE LOCATION ARE ALWAYS TERRORISTS.
Can you imagine what would have happened if Israel had not destroyed nuclear reactors in Iraq and Syria,
terrorists would have nuclear weapons.

[mark2]

Can you imagine what would have happened if Israel had not destroyed nuclear reactors in Iraq and Syria, terrorists would have had nuclear weapons.

This is demagoguery. This cannot be verified. But on the other hand, we can very clearly trace the history of hostility between Iran and Israel. And Israel has made great efforts to this end.

There is a Palestinian Authority on the territory of Israel

This is your Jewish opinion. The independence of the State of Palestine as of the end of July 2019 was recognized by 138 out of 193 UN member states.

And there is a territory of Gaza under the leadership of the terrorist organization Hamas

And this is also your Jewish opinion. Hamas has been declared a terrorist organization by Canada, the European Union, Israel, Japan and the United States, and is also banned in Jordan. Saudi Arabia banned the Muslim Brotherhood movement in 2014 and recognized it as a terrorist organization.
Hamas is not recognized as a terrorist organization, in particular, in Russia, Iran, Norway, Switzerland, Brazil, Turkey, China and Qatar, the Organization of Islamic Cooperation, as well as in a number of other countries around the world.

Read on the Internet how many countries buy automatic weapons from Israel.

Read on the Internet how many countries buy weapons in Iran.

Why only YOURS

And time will tell ... and soon.

world media including yours blowing KILLED NOT ADVERTISEMENT

Well, as you are to us, so are we to you. Bash on bash. What do you think?

TERRORISTS NOT DEPENDING ON THE LOCATION ALWAYS TERRORISTS

Well, here you are and tell this to your Jewish leadership, which treated Syrian terrorists in their hospitals together with Turkey.

[I'm walking by]

The history of Iran's hostility to Israel began with the coming to power of the Islamists who declared the destruction of Israel one of their priorities. Our Jewish opinion is that terrorists are those who commit terrorist acts, and not those whom someone else recognized as such, and the fact of hundreds of Hamas attacks is undeniable. In Syria, as far as I know, not terrorists, but civil war. However, Israel simply treated the incoming wounded civilians, perhaps among them there really were both opponents and supporters of Assad, they usually do not wear uniforms and are not written on their foreheads.

[mark2]

Islamists came to power in the 70s. And this did not prevent Israel and Iran from conducting economic relations. Mutually beneficial, at what. Iranian students continued to study in Israel. Why was there peace-friendship-chewing gum? And because Israel, in the spirit of a constant search for enemies, considered the Arabs, who were supported by the USSR, as such. Jews did not like the USSR. After its collapse, Israel was afraid that the United States would decide to befriend Israel's enemies. Israel could not contradict the United States, therefore, again in the spirit of looking for enemies, Israel declared Iran an enemy. The beginning of the breakdown of relations between the countries was started by Rabin in 1987, but everything finally broke down already in 1994.

Israel simply treated the incoming wounded civilians, perhaps among them there really were both opponents and supporters of Assad, they usually do not wear uniforms and are not written on their foreheads.

It doesn't justify. Even in WWII it was possible to distinguish between the peaceful and the partisan; in the 21st century, this is not a problem at all. MOSSAD is omnipotent. This is how you tell and support this myth.

[I'm walking by]

Is it possible at least some justification for both statements?

[mark2]

Dear, very positive is the desire for knowledge, but you yourself. I can post to say that on the Internet you can read the sources for the general search "History of relations between Iran and Israel" or simply "The reason for the conflict between Iran and Israel." There is a lot of information.
As for the second ... You can also search. All these events took place up to and including 2018. After that, the information did not come across. Maybe control of the network has improved, maybe Israel realized something after talking with Putin as a result of the destruction of a Russian plane.
In any case, the information passed through the media, the reactions of the departments were noted. I have no reason not to trust this information. Jews are not white sheep and never
they were not, but they know how to complain and lament "poverty".
Search and find.

[I'm walking by]

I have information about the relations between Iran and Israel, I have no information confirming your words.

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: mark2

This is your Jewish opinion. The independence of the State of Palestine as of the end of July 2019 was recognized by 138 out of 193 UN member states.

This is not a contested fact.
Yes, 138 states voted, they are mostly Muslim countries, if not third world countries, then the fourth and of course those who are under the advice.
But in fact.
During the Arab-Israeli War of 1947-1949, Judea and Samaria were occupied and unilaterally annexed by Transjordan (Jordan after their annexation) in 1950, which gave them the name "West Bank" to distinguish it from the eastern bank, which was its main territory before the war.
During the Six Day War of 1967, the West Bank was occupied by Israel. Since 1995, after the signing of the 2nd agreement in Oslo (Oslo-2) between Israel and the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO), parts of the West Bank are controlled by the Palestinian National Authority (PNA), created as a result of these agreements.
Zone A is under the exclusive jurisdiction of the Palestinian Authority;
Zone B is administered by both the Palestinian Authority and Israel;
Zone C , is ruled by Israel.
Gaza Strip.
Not there since 2005 NOT A JEWISH NOR MILITARY NOR CIVIL
Hamas coup and killed All representatives of the PA who did not have time to escape.
Now please show me Palestinian state border map name its currency and international ports and air communications, economic development, GDP and GDP per capita ...
WHAT YOU DO NOT FUCK ON PRAPOGANDA SEE HOW MUCH ISRAEL SUPPLIES FOOD AND GOODS TO DON'T DIE 2,1 mil.

And this is every day!

[Roman1970_1]

Come on, Israel is constantly being blamed.

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: mark2

But in a similar situation, Russia has been and is being accused all the time.

If you answer when the territory of Russia was shelled and by whom, how Russia answered and what it was accused of. I will grateful to you.

[Vitaly gusin]

According to the Al Jazeera TV channel, Hamas announced a successful attack by their UAV on a chemical plant in the Israeli kibbutz Nir-Oz. There is no official information yet about the consequences of this blow.
There will be many such fakes.
THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED IN REALITY.
A spokesman for the IDF issued a statement in English stating that "aircraft and infantry are attacking the Gaza Strip."
And the largest media reported the beginning of a ground operation.
This was a planned ploy, the task of which was to help the Hamas to hide in underground tunnels, the location of which was known to the IDF.
For 35 minutes, 160 aircraft flew over Gaza and dropped 450 bombs, that is, more than 80 tons of explosives, over the entire underground city of Hamas. The tunnels have collapsed, and it is currently unclear - to both us and Hamas - the extent of the damage and the number of terrorists buried there, but it is likely that there are hundreds of fighters.
The underground city of Gaza ceased to exist along with its inhabitants.

[Trapp1st]

The underground city of Gaza ceased to exist along with its inhabitants.

Wehrmacht IDF reports on suppression of Palestinian ghetto uprising?

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: Trapp1st

about suppressing the uprising in the Palestinian ghetto?

We are about explosions, about fires
We wrote a TASS note ...
But the orderlies rushed
And they fixed us.

[aszzz888]

Vitaly Gusin (Vitaly Gusin)
Yesterday, 19: 55

-2
Quote: Trapp1st
about suppressing the uprising in the Palestinian ghetto?

We are about explosions, about fires
We wrote a TASS note ...
But the orderlies rushed
And they fixed us.

You can see it.

Rating -46 399

When will they be released, they didn’t say?

[Ruslan Sulima]

Brought a soul to heaven ...
I do not support either one or the other, I know what war is.
But I'm just wondering what is the attitude of the Israeli (well, or under Jewish nicknames present) representatives to us, the residents of Donbas?
Who do you think is the fault of the conflict, what should be done? Just let's go without templates, and you and we have a question of life and death.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Ruslan Sulima

Brought a soul to heaven ...
I do not support either one or the other, I know what war is.
But I'm just wondering what is the attitude of the Israeli (well, or under Jewish nicknames present) representatives to us, the residents of Donbas?
Who do you think is the fault of the conflict, what should be done? Just let's go without templates, and you and we have a question of life and death.

I will tell you my personal point of view. I will not speak for anyone else. To me that your conflict with Ukraine, that the separatists in the Philippines are equally distant. I have a lot of problems in my country, and there is no desire to delve deeply into the fight that is taking place a thousand kilometers from home.

[Ruslan Sulima]

I will tell you my personal point of view.

Thank you for your honesty (well, I hope)), despite the fact that you often appear in Ukrainian topics, it's still a plus)
It's just that the situation in which the Jews constantly support the descendants of the murderers from the same Babi Yar ... in my Russian Donbass look)

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Ruslan Sulima

but the fact that you kiss with ukronatsiks is somehow not kosher,

"Kosher" is everything that benefits, even if in the short term - Benya Kolomoisky will confirm. Disgusting, of course, but such are the realities.

[Others]

As a former resident of Krasnoarmeisk, Donetsk region, (now Pokrovsk), I will tell you that few Israelis would like to exchange places with you. Here, sympathy for the Russian spring has already faded. The former Donetsk residents, and there are quite a few of them here, adhere to this point of view. If there are others who read it, it would be interesting to hear your opinion. To be honest, I understand that no one needed a confrontation, especially heaps of corpses on both sides. It is a pity that nothing can be fixed. And there would be an opportunity, I am sure, most of you, knowing where the confrontation will lead, would never start an armed confrontation. Although I have not lived in Donbass for twenty years with a penny, I keep in touch with my relatives in Donetsk too. Hello, fellow countryman from Krayot (Greater Haifa), Israel.

[Ruslan Sulima]

Well you

I, as a former resident of Krasnoarmeisk, Donetsk region, (now Pokrovsk)

I do not believe....

[Others]

Your business) I say, as a former miner first at the mine. T.G. Shevchenko, and after a mechanic from the Krasnoarmeyskaya-Zapadnaya mine1)))

[Ruslan Sulima]

Your business) I say, as a former miner first at the mine. T.G. Shevchenko, and after a mechanic from the Krasnoarmeyskaya-Zapadnaya mine1)))

So the fact of the matter is that my ...
Former la-la, and we are defending ourselves against those who are sponsored, including you.
So put your Donbass birth in ... your pocket, and be in a war, with the Arabs, on the couch, and I'll sort it out somehow. But do not be offended that if you climb, you will get in the nose) ...

[Ruslan Sulima]

Your business) I say, as a former miner first at the mine. T.G. Shevchenko, and after a mechanic from the Krasnoarmeyskaya-Zapadnaya mine1)))

I'll add a little, with anger that you won't understand, maybe you will at least try ...
And you, all over your nobility of gunpowder, did not smell ...

And I will add a little more from this
But you can't bring us to our knees, in the bloody pole one for all stands and holds the firmament Donbass!

[Babermetis]

Quote: Ruslan Sulima

Brought a soul to heaven ...
I do not support either one or the other, I know what war is.
But I'm just wondering what is the attitude of the Israeli (well, or under Jewish nicknames present) representatives to us, the residents of Donbas?
Who do you think is the fault of the conflict, what should be done? Just let's go without templates, and you and we have a question of life and death.

I have high respect for the inhabitants of the LDNR. Russian world no matter how! You need to be staunch and noble defending the constitution of Ukraine, and in the not too distant future be legal successors and true defenders of the Ukrainian constitution.

[Ruslan Sulima]

Thank you, smiled)

true defenders of the Ukrainian constitution

This one, with the adopted amendments on NATO, the EU, and all other matters? Or maybe eternal Putin is better than the sale of your native land, which they will try to pull out under your feet?)
The second reason (by the way, the situation is very similar) is faith. Whoever laughed as here, and indeed in general, this factor plays a very serious role. It is foolish to sweep it aside or pretend that the forced introduction of foreign church (well, I don’t know how to correctly say it, I’m an Orthodox myself, but more a parishioner than a parishioner) dogmas, has led to an even greater split in society. I can imagine how hot it is with you against this background.
Something carried away) You know, if there is a new country, on our, so to speak, base, it will definitely not be called Ukraine (in my opinion). If we are not there, then it will not be.
Well, do I look like a representative of Hamas?)

[Babermetis]

Quote: Ruslan Sulima

Thank you, smiled)

true defenders of the Ukrainian constitution

This one, with the adopted amendments on NATO, the EU, and all other matters? Or maybe eternal Putin is better than the sale of your native land, which they will try to pull out under your feet?)
The second reason (by the way, the situation is very similar) is faith. Whoever laughed as here, and indeed in general, this factor plays a very serious role. It is foolish to sweep it aside or pretend that the forced introduction of foreign church (well, I don’t know how to correctly say it, I’m an Orthodox myself, but more a parishioner than a parishioner) dogmas, has led to an even greater split in society. I can imagine how hot it is with you against this background.
Something carried away) You know, if there is a new country, on our, so to speak, base, it will definitely not be called Ukraine (in my opinion). If we are not there, then it will not be.
Well, do I look like a representative of Hamas?)

Not. Not like that! A Hamas spokesman would say otherwise.

He would say: "we cannot accept your conditions, which are dictated by your laws, we have our own laws, but they allow us to conclude a temporary truce with you, until we get stronger and start a new war with you, but for now, we beg you for mercy, forgive us, we won't be like this anymore! "

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: Babermetis

He would say: "we cannot accept your conditions, which are dictated by your laws, we have our own laws, but they allow us to conclude a temporary truce with you, until we get stronger and start a new war with you, but for now, we beg you for mercy, forgive us, we won't be like this anymore! "

Everything is much simpler and more complicated.
I wrote more than once.
There is a Palestinian charter, everyone who violates it is subject to the death penalty, which happens periodically in Gaza. The apostates are hanged in the square.

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: Ruslan Sulima

But I'm just wondering what is the attitude of the Israeli (well, or under Jewish nicknames present) representatives to us, the residents of Donbas?

As a real Jew, I will answer the question with a question.
HOW DID YOU LIVE IN UKRAINE TILL 2014?

[Ruslan Sulima]

I will answer the question with a question.

They smiled, + Well, at least one under the Jew mowed)
How did you live? Those who wanted to live a normal life worked, and those who could not do anything licked their penis with a prick ..
Now the situation is a little different, there are a lot of employees, no workers ..
Yes, on my 13th, if translated into dollars, there was a half a ruck.
Sorry? No, my wife is boiling over) It's not about money)

[Ruslan Sulima]

Smiled, +

That's why change comments ... Damn, Khokhlo VO calm down ... Return the original post!

[Others]

Well, and how, it became better to live with the advent of the new "people's" government under the leadership of the chief from MMM Pushilin?))) Probably, she did a lot for you? Has your education become in demand at least somewhere? How are the mines of Skachinsky and Zasyadko, are the factories doing? Perhaps your housing price has risen? I remember everyone's dream was to buy an apartment in Donetsk, because it was a city of roses and a regional center. And the reality of life is such that the standard of living has dropped so much that even the level of Ukraine now seems to you a pipe dream. And before the 2014 war, it differed little from the standard of living in Russia. Tell me how many apartments are either empty now, or the number of people living in them has dropped to one or two pensioners. Are there many kids digging in sandboxes, riding swings and squealing cheerfully in playgrounds? It turns out that reality has surpassed everything, even the wildest expectations. And there is no solution to this and will not be. You can calculate it yourself, or help you understand how many years ago you threw yourself away ... Just, in this, I only see an analogy between you and the Gaza Strip. And to the level of Israel, to its love of life, you most likely will not reach in this century. We are optimists and we say - Am Israel Hai !!! (The people of Israel are alive !!!), and no one can prevent it.

[Ruslan Sulima]

Well, and how, it became better to live with the advent of a new "people's" government under the leadership of the chief from MMM Pushilin?)))

Life became worse after the Maidan and attempts to break or kill us .. But we did not give up.
They tried to kill us, brought themselves to the pit. Something like this.

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: Ruslan Sulima

They smiled, + Well, at least one under the Jew mowed)

Do not touch Mishka Shifman,
With Mishka - away from doubts:
У ME Jews are all -
In every generation.

Quote: Ruslan Sulima

How did you live? Those who wanted to live a normal life worked, and those who could not do anything licked their penis with a prick.

Well, they live all over the world

Quote: Ruslan Sulima

Yes, on my 13th, if translated into dollars, there was a half a ruck.
Sorry? No, my wife is boiling over) It's not about money)

Well, you answered, but you can't go back to the past.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Ruslan Sulima

Brought a soul to heaven ...
I do not support either one or the other, I know what war is.
But I'm just wondering what is the attitude of the Israeli (well, or under Jewish nicknames present) representatives to us, the residents of Donbas?
Who do you think is the fault of the conflict, what should be done? Just let's go without templates, and you and we have a question of life and death.

Honestly, nothing at all, 95% are simply not interested in this topic. Just another conflict of dozens smoldering across the planet.
Of course, they eat the remaining 5%, which have not completely "taken the village out of the girl." They are divided into 2 camps and are dogging among themselves on the Internet. But for the most part, this is, to put it mildly, not a group burdened with high intellectual activity.
Foreign events are judged by how they affect Israel. In the Hebrew-speaking media, for example, there was nothing about the situation in Donbas when it was born. Something like that.

[Ruslan Sulima]

In the Hebrew-speaking media, for example, there was nothing about the situation in Donbas since birth.

Thank you for the honest answer. My mother just has good friends, too, somewhere in the edges of the Gaza Strip, in the 80s they left. From time to time they call up, so they say something like that)

[And Us Rat]

It's my pleasure. Please contact if that.

[iouris]

And where am I? Che-t, there are too many fans for Israel. Fellow citizens, the citizenship of Israel does not shine for you (and whoever shines is not a fellow citizen).
Bibi (Netanyahu) solves the electoral problem. It doesn't concern you. On the other hand, there are similar problems, plus a lack of funding.

[Babermetis]

Quote: iouris

And where am I? Che-t, there are too many fans for Israel. Fellow citizens, the citizenship of Israel does not shine for you (and whoever shines is not a fellow citizen).
Bibi (Netanyahu) solves the electoral problem. It doesn't concern you. On the other hand, there are similar problems, plus a lack of funding.

Sad, I would say mourning "allaakbar" sounds in the loudspeakers of the city of Gaza. And the asphalt on the roads sagged a lot.
The smell of rotten meat will reach Russia. Smell, this is the smell of war.

[Iris]

Many "supporters" of Israel have friends and acquaintances there.

[moscowp]

For example, I, by and large, do not care about how Jews and Arabs are at war, there are enough of my own problems. But, let's say, everyday sympathies are rather on the side of the Jews. I have good acquaintances Israelis, there are good acquaintances of Jews in Russia, on the contrary there are no acquaintances of the Arabs. In addition, someday I will go to rest in Israel, I’ll hardly ever go to Palestine.

[xorek]

This will not end well .. Neither for Palestine nor for Israel ..

[Vadim237]

Israel will be fine as always, but Palestine and most likely Lebanon do not have the last to see him forgot how the Israeli Air Force almost rolled him in 2006.

[xorek]

Quote: Vadim237

Israel will be fine as always, but Palestine and most likely Lebanon do not have the last to see him forgot how the Israeli Air Force almost rolled him in 2006.

Bragging again? Well well, no matter how you have to cry

[Vadim237]

Why would it suddenly have to cry. Regarding the death of the Hamas movement, I don’t support any Islamic militants or terrorists at all, unlike some others.

[Synoid]

This is the failure of Israel's military.
Hamas has prepared rockets and drones under their noses.
Also, intelligence was unable to warn about the start of the shelling for a preemptive strike.
Either Hamas is so genius or the complete slovenliness of the military leadership of Israel.
Second, the Iron Dome does not cope with the task, that is, there is advertising, but there is sense.
Of course, superiority in the quality and quantity of weapons will give victory to Israel, but now everyone knows the king is naked!

[Trapp1st]

This is the failure of Israel's military. Hamas has prepared rockets and drones under their noses. Also, intelligence was unable to warn about the start of the shelling for a preemptive strike. Either Hamas is so genius or the complete slovenliness of the military leadership of Israel.

There is no failure, especially the military of Israel. This is a controlled conflict, with a pre-determined end, provoked in Israel because of the political situation.

[Synoid]

Quote: Vitaly Gusin

According to the Al Jazeera TV channel, Hamas announced a successful attack by their UAV on a chemical plant in the Israeli kibbutz Nir-Oz. There is no official information yet about the consequences of this blow.
There will be many such fakes.
THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED IN REALITY.
A spokesman for the IDF issued a statement in English stating that "aircraft and infantry are attacking the Gaza Strip."
And the largest media reported the beginning of a ground operation.
This was a planned ploy, the task of which was to help the Hamas to hide in underground tunnels, the location of which was known to the IDF.
For 35 minutes, 160 aircraft flew over Gaza and dropped 450 bombs, that is, more than 80 tons of explosives, over the entire underground city of Hamas. The tunnels have collapsed, and it is currently unclear - to both us and Hamas - the extent of the damage and the number of terrorists buried there, but it is likely that there are hundreds of fighters.
The underground city of Gaza ceased to exist along with its inhabitants.

That is, everyone who was bombarded with the rubble of residential buildings was declared terrorists?
Brilliant move, bravo. Jews know how to lay straw in advance.

[Trapp1st]

That is, everyone who was bombarded with the rubble of residential buildings was declared terrorists?

It is a common practice, cynical but often practiced, that everyone is recorded, including women and children ...

[Konnick]

A very cunning move of the IDF, yesterday began to talk about the beginning of a ground operation, the Merkavas have already gone. Accordingly, Hamas militants went into the tunnels to ambush, and anti-tank units began to move towards armored vehicles ... but the tanks stopped and 160 planes staged 45 minutes of hell for the militants, burying them alive underground and destroying groups of anti-tank men from the air
Again they deceived ... the IDF knows how to fight wisely.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Well, yes, some "smart guy" had the idea to place a chemical plant right in the city, even I began to doubt the mental abilities of the people of Israel

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Gennady Fomkin

Well, yes, some "smart guy" had the idea to place a chemical plant right in the city, even I began to doubt the mental abilities of the people of Israel

On the outskirts of a kibbutz (collective farms)
Factory for the production of paint

[Gennady Fomkin]

2014 Bus with Russian pilgrims in the Holy Land. We are moving from Israel to the Palestinian territories according to the pilgrimage plan. Checkpoint. Checking. Enter two IDF soldiers. He is a skinny young man, asthenic, the machine gun drags along the ground (or did it seem? :-))). She, almost a teenager, is lower than her partner on the head, in glasses, the machine gun is as if dragging. The children checked the bus and got off. Maybe the picture is different now.

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Gennady Fomkin

2014 Bus with Russian pilgrims in the Holy Land. We are moving from Israel to the Palestinian territories according to the pilgrimage plan. Checkpoint. Checking. Enter two IDF soldiers. He is a skinny young man, asthenic, the machine gun drags along the ground (or did it seem? :-))). She, almost a teenager, is lower than her partner on the head, in glasses, the machine gun is as if dragging. The children checked the bus and got off. Maybe the picture is different now.

Like this

[Gennady Fomkin]

Well, of course. The elephants are busy with their showdowns, it's time to steal some little things.

Shcha, wait a minute, more Britons will climb somewhere, in Iceland, for example.

[A. Privalov]

If you look closely, the IDF pretty quickly razed what Hamas had been building for years.

Missile production systems and a number of strategic facilities have been completely neutralized and will remain so for a long time to come.

Underground tunnels have been destroyed along and across the Gaza Strip. Many dozens of terrorists are buried under the rubble. Eliminated 10 high-ranking members of Hamas in the command and control system. The security forces are aware of at least 90 more Hamas fighters from the squad leader and above who were killed in the fighting.

At present, there are attempts to neutralize all remaining production lines, eliminate more and more high-ranking Hamas figures and destroy as many missile launchers as possible.
According to my feelings, the operation will last another 10-12 days.

[Babermetis]

Quote: A. Privalov

If you look closely, the IDF pretty quickly razed what Hamas had been building for years.

Missile production systems and a number of strategic facilities have been completely neutralized and will remain so for a long time to come.

Underground tunnels have been destroyed along and across the Gaza Strip. Many dozens of terrorists are buried under the rubble. Eliminated 10 high-ranking members of Hamas in the command and control system. The security forces are aware of at least 90 more Hamas fighters from the squad leader and above who were killed in the fighting.

At present, there are attempts to neutralize all remaining production lines, eliminate more and more high-ranking Hamas figures and destroy as many missile launchers as possible.
According to my feelings, the operation will last another 10-12 days.

And according to mine, it will be quiet tonight.
The kids have played, it's time for the dads to talk.

[A. Privalov]

Quote: Babermetis

And according to mine, it will be quiet tonight.

Cairo offered the Israeli leadership a "one-year ceasefire" as one of the terms of the agreement with Hamas.

At the same time, Palestinian news agencies report with reference to "Arab sources" that Israel has categorically rejected the proposal to cease fire "until the end of the operation."

The Egyptians went home today. They won't be back in less than a week.

[VLADIMIR VLADIVOSTOK]

Zionism is worse than fascism! Israel is an artificial state, created on the ancestral lands of Palestine and not without the help of the USSR!

[Babermetis]

Quote: VLADIMIR VLADIVOSTOK

Zionism is worse than fascism! Israel is an artificial state, created on the ancestral lands of Palestine and not without the help of the USSR!

You are stupid, and not worthy of your name and the name of the city that you wrote down.

[indy424]

I think I need to add some more capital letters and exclamation marks here. then it will be more reasoned

[And Us Rat]

Quote: VLADIMIR VLADIVOSTOK

Zionism is worse than fascism! Israel is an artificial state, created on the ancestral lands of Palestine and not without the help of the USSR!

[VLADIMIR VLADIVOSTOK]

Gathered some enemies of the people on the site! What else to expect from them!

[indy424]

the patriot simply did not breathe. head up! more exclamation marks! SIM WE WILL WIN !!!!!!

[Shahno]

Quote: Babermetis

Quote: A. Privalov

If you look closely, the IDF pretty quickly razed what Hamas had been building for years.

Missile production systems and a number of strategic facilities have been completely neutralized and will remain so for a long time to come.

Underground tunnels have been destroyed along and across the Gaza Strip. Many dozens of terrorists are buried under the rubble. Eliminated 10 high-ranking members of Hamas in the command and control system. The security forces are aware of at least 90 more Hamas fighters from the squad leader and above who were killed in the fighting.

At present, there are attempts to neutralize all remaining production lines, eliminate more and more high-ranking Hamas figures and destroy as many missile launchers as possible.
According to my feelings, the operation will last another 10-12 days.

And according to mine, it will be quiet tonight.
The kids have played, it's time for the dads to talk.

Already ... Netanyahu has already stated ...
That he respects all world leaders, he even listed them by name, but the IDF will fulfill its tasks.
The armed wing of Hamas and its defeat. The corrupt imams have already whined.

[A. Privalov]

In recent days, the Israeli navy has attacked dozens of targets belonging to the Hamas naval forces, including ships, ammunition depots, observation posts and military bases.

[Gunther]

Quote: Babermetis

... The smell of rotten meat will reach Russia. Take a sniff
this is the smell of war.

the stench here is only from you, so sniff your "zap" yourself, without Russia)))

[Gunther]

during a massive attack, the "Iron Basin" will quickly become covered with rust and crumble with dust - the stock of missiles will run out stupidly, for 2013 the price of the wunderwafe of the Palestinian partisans is $ 300-400, the "iron basin" missiles are $ 40 - $ 000, even taking into account the support of Israel by mattresses the prospect of rolling into mutual the massacre is great - at the moment control in the city of Lod is completely lost (according to the authorities), there are massive pogroms of the Semitic Arabs.
however, this is an internal affair of the Asians, in my opinion it is better for us not to go there, and Lavrov may express "concern."

[Gunther]

Quote: credo

Quote: Aron Zaavi

H'm. Twigs are you talking about?

Are you saying that the Palestinians are already shooting at you from such installations?

Quote: credo

Quote: Aron Zaavi

H'm. Twigs are you talking about?

Are you saying that the Palestinians are already shooting at you from such installations?

they dig them out of the "underground tunnels"))))
then they bury it ...

[Gennady Fomkin]

Well, if the Jews would have done this with the temple of Christ the Savior, what would be your reaction. Madmen. God bless my best classmate and just a good friend and his family.

[Vadim237]

All these mosques are hotbeds of terrorism and radical extremism. Islam as a religion has long been affected by malignant tumors and metastases that are dangerous for all of humanity. And in general I do not understand that Israel is lisping with this Arab garbage would have expelled all Palestinians and Arabs from its territory - and would have populated the territory with Jews - and the whole cesspool with these ten-year shelling of victims and Hamas will end forever.

[indy424]

one could say that this takes place on the "day of Jerusalem," and according to tradition, the procession came to the wailing wall. and that at the same time, on the temple mountain itself, the Arabs, with their own Molotov bottle, set fire to an old and large cypress, which is burning in the background. but why are these details if Jews are so bad?

[Vadim237]

However, the Jews have always given zvizdyuly to the entire Arab world - because the Arabs are degenerates in life, even the Soviet leaders in the 60s and 70s understood this when they were supported with weapons.

[indy424]

can you please an example when the Arabs expelled the Jews from the Middle East? since you are clearly an expert on the topic, it would be interesting to hear, only with specific dates and names of states and rulers

[indy424]

Interestingly, the higher the level of non-hatred towards Jews, the lower the ability to process and convey information. "The Arabs have already expelled the Jews from the Middle East." - this is the dude you wrote. then you start talking about the Germans in Bologna and France. you don’t even have enough intelligence to look at the borders of the Middle East and who the Arabs are, because you need to quickly paste in a funny picture with fleeing Jews. ttsoy comment is a diagnosis, bro

[indy424]

"disgusting character. unmarried". how wonderful it is to always hear a person's opinion on a topic with good reasoning

[tralflot1832]

Israel claims to intercept 1000 Palestinian MLRS shells with an iron dome, and the cost of the interception is estimated at $ 20000 per shell.

[zlinn]

Well, $ 20M, the daily budget of the municipality of Tel Aviv, what is the speech about?

[A. Privalov]

Quote: tralflot1832

Israel claims to intercept 1000 Palestinian MLRS shells with an iron dome, and the cost of the interception is estimated at $ 20000 per shell.

Well, here, and the Jews are always accused of commercialism. They say, they are ready to hang themselves for a penny.

[andreykolesov123]

Nothing terrible happened, Hamas had a clap in the underground space and a negative growth in the number of militants.

[Gennady Fomkin]

[quote = Vadim237] All these mosques are hotbeds of terrorism and radical extremism Islam as a religion has long been affected by malignant tumors and metastases that are dangerous for all of humanity. And in general I don't understand that Israel is lisping with this Arab garbage would have expelled all Palestinians and Arabs from its territory - and populated the territory with Jews - and the whole cesspool with these ten-year shelling of victims and Hamas will end forever. [/ Quote]
And in general I do not understand that Israel is lisping with this Arab garbage would have expelled all Palestinians and Arabs from its territory - and would have populated the territory with Jews - and the whole cesspool with these ten-year shelling of victims and Hamas will end forever. [/ Quote] .....
Mein Kumph re-read? start to "fight" with the entire Islamic world.

[Vadim237]

One day I'll have to fight, although what I'm talking about - we have been fighting for decades in Afghanistan, Chechnya in Syria. Previously, the brown plague was fought against the green one.

[Tambov-there is god]

Judging by comments from Israel, Jews consider themselves right. They considered themselves and the capos in the Nazi concentration camps to be right.

[I'm walking by]

And the capos also breathed oxygen, just like the IDF. I am glad that true patriotic fighters with Israeli fascism know deep down in their hearts that they are wrong, this explains a lot, but I dare to remind you that an analogy, especially such a curve, is not an argument.

[Vadim237]

In what he is wrong - the first missile strike on Israel was inflicted by Islamic fanatics from the territory of Palestine, no matter how peacefully they do not live, something is constantly itching.

[Shahno]

Quote: aszzz888

Professor (Sokolov Oleg)
Today, 08: 23
There is no chemical plant there.

Don't forget to announce to Privalov.

Recently there was a type of plant. We did some paints.
Maybe something has already changed, I haven't visited those lands for a long time ..
I was simply surprised at what kind of production they launched here, in the same place, with direct fire, and that's it.

[Shahno]

Quote: Vitaly Gusin

Quote: mark2

This is your Jewish opinion. The independence of the State of Palestine as of the end of July 2019 was recognized by 138 out of 193 UN member states.

This is not a contested fact.
Yes, 138 states voted, they are mostly Muslim countries, if not third world countries, then the fourth and of course those who are under the advice.
But in fact.
During the Arab-Israeli War of 1947-1949, Judea and Samaria were occupied and unilaterally annexed by Transjordan (Jordan after their annexation) in 1950, which gave them the name "West Bank" to distinguish it from the eastern bank, which was its main territory before the war.
During the Six Day War of 1967, the West Bank was occupied by Israel. Since 1995, after the signing of the 2nd agreement in Oslo (Oslo-2) between Israel and the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO), parts of the West Bank are controlled by the Palestinian National Authority (PNA), created as a result of these agreements.
Zone A is under the exclusive jurisdiction of the Palestinian Authority;
Zone B is administered by both the Palestinian Authority and Israel;
Zone C , is ruled by Israel.
Gaza Strip.
Not there since 2005 NOT A JEWISH NOR MILITARY NOR CIVIL
Hamas coup and killed All representatives of the PA who did not have time to escape.
Now please show me Palestinian state border map name its currency and international ports and air communications, economic development, GDP and GDP per capita ...
WHAT YOU DO NOT FUCK ON PRAPOGANDA SEE HOW MUCH ISRAEL SUPPLIES FOOD AND GOODS TO DON'T DIE 2,1 mil.

Well, this is a well-known incident. De jure, the state was partially recognized. And de facto it doesn't seem to exist ...

[Shahno]

Quote: hrych

The most belligerent Carapace. Fights in Syria, Libya and Yemen.

Well, what are you like children in fact. Both are okay.
In fact, of course, the most loaded air defense system in real clashes is Kipat Barzel. On average, 300 targets destroyed per complex.

[flicker]

Since the beginning of the escalation, the IDF has carried out the largest air raid on Gaza, involving 160 aircraft.

On this occasion, it is possible to build another holiday in Israel: well, there, build stands, drive people there ... let them jump.
---
Why is there the impression that the collapsed tribunes and the conflict with the Palestinians are a struggle of the Israeli political forces for power.

[Alex Justice]

Arabs are fighting Arabs over religion and there is no end to it.

[Shahno]

Quote: zenion

They will fight until the Premier is elected to the presidency. Then he won't go to jail.

Yes, you are a pessimist, he lacks only a couple of mandates. For the master of "poaching", this is, as it were, solvable.

[Shahno]

Quote: zenion

Who did it so that the missiles would fly from there? Start with the fact that there was no reason for the flight of missiles, but the reason was created, who created? Who was not allowed to pray and who was beaten with truncheons?

Here they do not let in, first Jews, then Arabs. What does Hamas have to do with this, does it have the right to the Temple Mount or the right to interfere in the affairs of another state ...

[aries2200]

maybe 160 sorties and not 160 planes. ????

[Wladimir134]

I do not understand couch patriots. I myself am a Russian Jew. People died as it can cause joy. And for a long time he endured poison about Lukashenka. Old Man invests everything he can into the economy of his country. And not musicians like Raldugin counts on the account. The whole trouble of Russia is that the people live not thanks to the help of the state, but in spite of it. And vice versa in Israel

[Shahno]

Quote: ButchCassidy

Of course it is worthy. But this is not Wunderwaffe, but a specific piece of hardware for solving specific problems. You see, it is not worth comparing in terms of efficiency highly specialized weapons and military equipment, created for a specific theater of military operations, and universal weapons and military equipment.

So here - the LCD or, for example, the Merkava were created in order to defend the state with an area of ​​half the Moscow region. Russia, on the other hand, basically creates universal equipment that has completely different climatic requirements. What makes you think that the LCD system built by Israel can be similarly built in Slovenia or Eswatini? While an echeloned air defense / missile defense system on the basis of equipment supplied by Russia can be created, of course, with the formulation of such a task and proper security. And then what kind of comparison between LCD and Armor are you talking about?

Nobody depreciates the Soviet school and the work of the million Soviet engineers who moved to Israel. But at the same time, superiority in technology is not at all as we would like, but somewhere it is not at all.

Oddly enough, but Israel has difficult prospects, given Trump's departure and turbulence in the United States itself, Israel should turn to a more reliable supplier of security - Russia. If anyone can reconcile Israel with the Arabs and Iran, it is Russia.

Unfortunately, we have not seen the results of the work of the Russian air defense system in defending the city from half of Moscow (deputy: here it is more likely Moscow as a whole) ... And in ours, very well, so to speak, everything is under cameras. Notice neither advertising nor the protection of the military base, namely the work of air defense on an area of ​​200 * 50 km with massive shelling.
Ps. This does not detract from the high performance characteristics of Russian systems.

[Azzzwer]

The fascism of the Jewish Zionists does not give the peaceful Palestinian people a peaceful life. No to fascism !!!