About half of the French would support the army if it decided to restore order in the country.

The European press discusses appeals sent by retired and some active military personnel to French President Emmanuel Macron. We are talking about appeals in which the French military talk about a possible civil war in France, about the actual loss by the country's authorities of control over the situation, which is alarming. It is noted that for the first time in many years, the French police are forced to turn to the military to restore order in certain areas of the country's large cities, where even armed law enforcement officers are afraid to enter. It is noted that crime flourishes in such areas, extremist sentiments and the corresponding ideology are cultivated.

The German and Polish press, commenting on the political situation in France, note that the military "want to take on a decisive role in the processes of governing the country."

Polish columnist Wojciech Holonka writes the following:

The French are breaking with the 1968 revolution. Already 58 percent of French citizens support the military's appeal to the president. And almost half (about 49%), according to polls in France, would support the army if it decided to take measures to restore order in the country.

These data are in line with the results of a public opinion poll in France.

Against this background, ex-presidential adviser (2007-2012) Nicolas Sarkozy, Patrick Busson, spoke, who noted that France had come to the end of the cycle of the 1968 revolution, the motto of which was the rejection of traditions and authorities.

It is noted that many military personnel openly supported their retired colleagues, who call on the civilian authorities to restore order in the country. This suggests that Emmanuel Macron will have to listen to both the letter and what ordinary French think about it.

Comments

[Victor_B]

It looks like a serious batch against Macroshi is being started ...
Maybe, along the way, and reach a civil war. (It is unlikely that for this there should be some kind of support territory for the rebels with the support of the population)

[Finches]

All this is nonsense! Gundosyat, gundosyat, but as elections, they choose all sorts of Sarkozy, yes Zalyaruzi from the Rockefellar-Rothschild clans, and not the same Le Pen, for example! And this general was paid by someone from a competing group, Macron and his roof, the same Sarkozy, that's the whole story. Today's global capitalism and democracy, like the rule of the people, are absolutely not overlapping things anywhere. Under capitalism, the people do not decide anything, but are cattle for creating surplus value!

[Shurik70]

Nobody takes this France seriously anymore. Like Hindus, they have seven Fridays a week.
Remember the leapfrog with the Mistrals. They promised for a year that they would sell it to Russia, despite any rumors about the refusal. Then they suddenly changed their minds.
Whether it is the Germans. We made a 95% tank training ground for Russia, then all this harassment of Russia began, and, despite any punitive damages, they said: "It's a pity, but we can't build further."
And the French are always stirring up something. And they change. They themselves do not know what they will come up with tomorrow. Who in general came up with such polls? Surely either the French themselves, or the British (to destabilize their eternal "friends")

[Artyom Karagodin]

And I suddenly remembered a joke.

Conversation in a candy store:
- Please give me the Macron cake!
- What is it like?
- Like "Napoleon", only without eggs.

[barclay]

And in general it is not known for certain whether these polls took place. And what is brought out to the public is the technology of manipulating people.

[Alexander Romanov]

The poll is true, 50% of the French will support the army, the remaining 50% of the population are Arabs and Negroes are categorically against

[barclay]

Most likely it is.
And in general, all these "polls" are a typical paid fraud.
The main thing here is not numbers, but the method of calculating them, and far-fetched conclusions.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: barclay

And in general it is not known for certain whether these polls took place. And what is brought out to the public is the technology of manipulating people.

[Roman070280]

they choose all sorts of Sarkozy, yes Zalaruzi from the Rockefellor-Rothschild clans, and not the same Le Pen, for example!

Under capitalism, the people do not decide anything, but are cattle for the creation of surplus value!

It's funny .. we also have capitalism .. and also livestock does not solve anything ..
But "Le Pen" has been with us for 20 years ..
Or is he from the Rockefell-Rothschild clans too ??)

[Finches]

We have the right person sitting! Do not worry!

[Roman070280]

Yes, I understand that "This guy is a bastard", but since "this is our bastard", then you can not worry ..
The question was really about something else, but it will do just that ..))

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Finches

We have the right person sitting! Do not worry!

Is sitting? Who will plant him - he's a monument! ©

[Murmur 55]

A joke of humor, this is the province of Gascony

[Peak]

Quote: Victor_B

(It is unlikely that for this there should be some kind of support territory for the rebels with the support of the population)

Burgundy, Nomandy, Champagne or Provence? Or Gascony?

[sergo1914]

The entire white population will support. He worked for several years with a white Frenchman from Marseille. I have not met a greater racist since then.

[Peak]

Quote: sergo1914

The entire white population will support. He worked for several years with a white Frenchman from Marseille. I have not met a greater racist since then.

Apparently - "got to the liver".

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: sergo1914

The entire white population will support. He worked for several years with a white Frenchman from Marseille. I have not met a greater racist since then.

The army has authority. Not only in France. One gets the impression that the officer corps (all over the world) remains the most morally honest and responsible in comparison with the political "elite" of the world. So they are trying to stop a possible war and the degradation of the world .. They understand that they are responsible for the life and security of the peoples of their states.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: sergo1914

with a white Frenchman from Marseille.

These are the ones that should be exhibited under glass in a museum - it's a relic.

[sergo1914]

Quote: Paranoid50

Quote: sergo1914

with a white Frenchman from Marseille.

These are the ones that should be exhibited under glass in a museum - it's a relic.

Until 2008 they worked a lot in Russia. Different ages. All white. Now I remember conversations. At the office and at Friday teas. It was already said then. We need a tough president, not a rag. The Alsatian was alone. With a double name. Bruno-Edward ... So he is generally ... an intolerant comrade.

[culinary]

Quote: sergo1914

Quote: Paranoid50

Quote: sergo1914

with a white Frenchman from Marseille.

These are the ones that should be exhibited under glass in a museum - it's a relic.

Until 2008 they worked a lot in Russia. Different ages. All white. Now I remember conversations. At the office and at Friday teas. It was already said then. We need a tough president, not a rag. The Alsatian was alone. With a double name. Bruno-Edward ... So he is generally ... an intolerant comrade.

So there are also many workers in England because of the Da Mansha. As one of them bitterly joked that there are more French people in London than in Paris ...

[Alexey RA]

Quote: sergo1914

We need a tough president, not a rag. The Alsatian was alone. With a double name. Bruno-Edward ... So he is generally ... an intolerant comrade.

He probably also has a black-red-yellow flag in his closet - just in case. Or even black-white-red.

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: sergo1914

Worked for several years with a white Frenchman from Marseille

And I understand him - Marseille is the northernmost city in africa it was enough for me to work there for five days - just like in Africa with all the attendants ..

[Murmur 55]

If they do not lie, then very good news.

[novel66]

yes, and I would have supported ours .. is it time?

[Revolver]

"in certain areas of large cities of the country, where even armed law enforcement officers are afraid to enter" - the politically correct naming of the Negro-Arab regions. But the French army, with the exception of the Foreign Legion, is toothless. They have not won a single victory since the days of Napoleon.
...
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French army rifle for sale. In perfect condition, never fired, once thrown to the ground.

[Liam]

Quote: Nagan

They have not won a single victory since the days of Napoleon.

How interesting ... and who won the first world war?
Or the Crimean

[Revolver]

Quote: Liam

and who won the first world war?
Or the Crimean

In the Crimea, the main role was played by the British, and the French were present. And at the same time, say, in Britain, the result of that war was not considered a victory.
In the First World War, they were first rescued by the Russians, organizing an ill-prepared offensive in East Prussia, for which they paid dearly, but diverted the German troops to themselves. Then the British held the western front, and the Americans finally finished off the Germans.
World War II? I will quote Field Marshal Keitel: "How did these people defeat us too?"

[Liam]

Quote: Nagan

In Crimea, the main role was played by the British, and the French were present.

You have an alternative picture of history)

Quote: Nagan

in Britain, the result of that war was not considered a victory.

Even so ... they probably counted themselves in defeats)

Quote: Nagan

First World War, they were first saved by the Russians, organizing an ill-prepared offensive in East Prussia, for which they paid dearly, but diverted the German troops to themselves. Then the western front was held by the British, and the Americans finally finished off the Germans.

Samsonov's laurels haunt you?

Quote: Nagan

I will quote Field Marshal Keitel: "How did these people defeat us too?"

Well, since a quote, it will not be difficult to share a link to fountainhead

[Revolver]

Quote: Liam

Well, since a quote, it will not be difficult to share a link to the source

Banned from Google? Sorry.

[Liam]

You don’t need to sympathize with me, but better educate yourself and don’t replicate stale fakes here. Google will help you with this .. although I doubt it

[Revolver]

Well, for the sake of curiosity, I googled it. How do you, well, at least it?
https://www.ng.ru/content/articles/669967/

[Liam]

You have a peculiar interpretation of the concept Quote.
I was asking about the original, not the fiction from the internet washes.

[Revolver]

Quote: Liam

Samsonov's laurels haunt you?

Which Samsonov? A local author, or a general from the cavalry who killed the 1914nd Army in 2?

[Vol4ara]

Quote: Nagan

Quote: Liam

and who won the first world war?
Or the Crimean

In the Crimea, the main role was played by the British, and the French were present. And at the same time, say, in Britain, the result of that war was not considered a victory.
In the First World War, they were first rescued by the Russians, organizing an ill-prepared offensive in East Prussia, for which they paid dearly, but diverted the German troops to themselves. Then the British held the western front, and the Americans finally finished off the Germans.
World War II? I will quote Field Marshal Keitel: "How did these people defeat us too?"

Well, then it turns out that the Soviet Union lost the 2nd world - some held back Japan, others pulled their forces to Africa and the Mediterranean, and then they opened the western front. Your logic is from god

[Blacksmith 55]

Nagant, the translation of Keitel's words is not entirely accurate.
He said: Like, the French too, we still did not have enough of these.
Wie die Franzosen auch, die haben uns noch gefehlt.
The meaning is of course the same.

[mr.ZinGer]

The British numbered 200 and the French 000, and half of the British were naval personnel.

[Alex Justice]

600000 Frenchmen happily worked for the Germans from the SBS film dock. The fleet fought against the British for which it was destroyed.
These are the winners of the Germans.

[bk0010]

Quote: Liam

How interesting ... and who won the first world war?

Not the French won the First World War, but the Germans lost, their economy collapsed. There was not a single enemy soldier on the territory of Germany, the war ended with a successful German offensive with a breakthrough of the front, but since it was the first and not the second world war, there were no motorized units yet and the French managed to organize a new line of defense in front of the advancing Germans, on this the Germans fizzled out.

[Liam]

Quote: bk0010

Not the French won the First World War, but the Germans lost, their economy collapsed. There was not a single enemy soldier on the territory of Germany

The farther into the forest ...
Well, please the Russians that according to these criteria they did not lose the Russian-Japanese, the Japanese that they are WWII to the Americans and even more so to the USSR, the Americans that everything went on in Vietnam and they can write them down as an asset, the USSR is in Afghanistan and the list goes on.

Quote: bk0010

the war ended with a successful German offensive with a breakthrough of the front

Are you sure you are well aware of events in WWI?

[bk0010]

Quote: Liam

Well, please the Russians that according to these criteria they did not lose the Russian-Japanese, the Japanese that they are WWII to the Americans and even more so to the USSR, the Americans that everything went on in Vietnam and they can write them down as an asset, the USSR is in Afghanistan and the list goes on.

Reread what I wrote. The Germans LOST WWI. But so that later cries of betrayal were heard from everywhere.

Quote: Liam

Are you sure you are well aware of events in WWI?

Not. But it is on this topic that there is a lot of information. Google "Spring Offensive 1918".

[Liam]

Quote: bk0010

The Germans LOST WWI. But so that later cries of betrayal were heard from everywhere.

Screams of betrayal are the flip side of propaganda. 4 years the German censorship worked tirelessly, and the press talked exclusively about the cowardly French fleeing like hares and the continuous brilliant victories of German weapons. And when the collapse occurred, the people found the simplest explanation - supposedly betrayal. it never ends well, especially in case of defeat.

Quote: bk0010

Not. But it is on this topic that there is a lot of information. Google "Spring Offensive 1918".

You have problems with logic. You yourself admit that you don't really know the topic, but for some reason you suggest to me to google)
Let me remind you that Germany surrendered in November 1918 and surrendered as a result of a military defeat.

The Entente counteroffensive and the collapse of the Quadruple Alliance

: Operation Amiens and Operation Saint Miel

The Amiens operation (8-13 August) was the first in a series of operations of the so-called "hundred-day offensive" of the Entente, which ended in the military defeat of Germany and the Armistice of Compiegne.
Its peculiarity was the complete absence of artillery preparation in the first hour, which further strengthened the factor of its surprise for the Germans: early in the morning the attack was launched by British tanks, and an hour later by French ones. The allies had more than two-fold superiority in strength (400 thousand against 180 thousand), and by the evening the Germans were driven back 8-12 km, having lost about 30 thousand people killed and wounded, and another 16 350 prisoners. Later, Ludendorff called August 8 "the blackest day of the German army in the history of world war."

On August 14, Hindenburg reported to the Kaiser that the combat capability of the German army had fallen so much that it could no longer advance, and therefore it was necessary to look for an early end to the war through diplomatic means. Thus, the Amiens operation turned out to be a turning point for the entire course of the war..

[mr.ZinGer]

And the Crimean War, the First World War.

[rocket757]

About half of the French would support the army if it decided to restore order in the country.

Oh, why is that?

[askort154]

No wonder. Europe is smoothly turning into Afro-Europe, and the Euro-aborigines are beginning to "wake up".

[Xlor]

I believe that the word "French" is inappropriate here, because there are almost no Frenchmen left in France ...

[Revolver]

Look at French soccer teams. Solid blacks and Arabs.

[Vol4ara]

Quote: Nagan

Look at French soccer teams. Solid blacks and Arabs.

Serdar Azmun, Sebastian Driussi, Emiliano Rigoni, Vilmar Barrios, Malcom, Wendel, Douglas Santos, Dejan Lovren from Zenith, do not tell me they are from Ryazan province or from Novgorod, I forgot something

[Revolver]

Yes? How much blacks oh sorry, African Americans and Arabs plays in the Russian national team? Now look at France. Yes, of course, French passports.

[Vol4ara]

Quote: Nagan

Yes? How much blacks oh sorry, African Americans and Arabs plays in the Russian national team? Now look at France. Yes, of course, French passports.

Well, here of course they fly :) France's games at the World Cup are funny to watch

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Vol4ara

I forgot something

Taki yes - Rigoni is already in full dust in Spain. And Yaroslav Rakitsky, our Donbass defense, is modestly forgotten. As for the rest, they are not naturalized like the various Ari-Guilherme-Fernandez, but quite official legionnaires. It is a pity that Yarik Rakitskiy is considered a legionnaire - he would definitely not get lost in our team, but he has no return to dill.

[Vol4ara]

Quote: Paranoid50

Quote: Vol4ara

I forgot something

Taki yes - Rigoni is already in full dust in Spain. And Yaroslav Rakitsky, our Donbass defense, is modestly forgotten. As for the rest, they are not naturalized like the various Ari-Guilherme-Fernandez, but quite official legionnaires. It is a pity that Yarik Rakitskiy is considered a legionnaire - he would definitely not get lost in our team, but he has no return to dill.

What makes you think that he is forgotten, what a stranger he is?

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Vol4ara

What makes you think that he is forgotten,

With a listing of our legs. And Yarik, alas, is officially considered such.

[Vol4ara]

Quote: Paranoid50

Quote: Vol4ara

What makes you think that he is forgotten,

With a listing of our legs. And Yarik, alas, is officially considered such.

This is a question of nationality, not of state borders. There is a colossal difference between a Negro and the French; there is no difference between a Ukrainian and a Russian. Cockroaches in my head don't count

[Revolver]

Quote: Vol4ara

Cockroaches in my head don't count

If you use your head solely to hit the ball, then cockroaches are not a hindrance.

[mr.ZinGer]

Is it different in our football clubs?

[aszzz888]

Xlor (Xlor)
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I believe that the word "French" is inappropriate here, for French in France almost gone ...

Yes, yes. They were already so unnerved there, that the aborigines will soon be gone.

[Million]

There was no need to let migrants in, because of them all the problems. You have to live at home, and come only to visit.

[Ilya22558]

If the migrants assimilated, obey the laws of the country they came to, then there would be no problems, and so ... We came from the Middle Ages and we need to arrange the same Middle Ages in the country that sheltered them. It seems that when the Russian emigration was after the revolution, Europe had no problems ...

[Egoza]

Quote: Ilya22558

It seems that when the Russian emigration was after the revolution, Europe had no problems ...

So they were all brought up by French-English governess. So there were no problems.
And here the descendants of the former slaves shake the rights

[Egoza]

Quote: Million

There was no need to let migrants in, because of them all the problems.

It was just that the newcomers had to clearly and rigidly set the living conditions - the fulfillment of FRENCH laws and orders, and not play with tolerance and democracy. Otherwise, deportation.
In any case, if the military has stirred so much, perhaps they will restore order. It is noteworthy that French retirees wrote a letter, American retirees wrote a letter ... who's next? And who will the active army support?

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Egoza

It was just that the newcomers had to clearly and rigidly set the living conditions - the fulfillment of FRENCH laws and orders, and not play with tolerance and democracy. Otherwise, deportation.

Or maybe it was not necessary to grab this supposedly cheap labor force! Now all these migrants are more expensive ... I am afraid that the same problems await Russia .. Our goons "amperialists" will finish badly with the import of migrants! Everyone is trying to pay less for their work, to put more in their pockets! You need to pay your own! It is necessary to provide their own with work.

[Million]

Migrants today are not what they were at the beginning: quiet, downtrodden, unpretentious

[Revolver]

Quote: 30 vis

Or maybe it was not necessary to grab this supposedly cheap labor force!

Who told you that they work? They have been sitting on the allowance for generations.

[Sergej1972]

Well, so the French in the past did not have to create a colonial empire in the vast territories of Africa and Indochina. It's all interconnected.

[Vol4ara]

Quote: Million

There was no need to let migrants in, because of them all the problems. You have to live at home, and come only to visit.

Ha, well, we are only at the beginning of this path. Putin tells us there are not enough migrants, yeah, from Central Asia. And the Tajiks and Uzbeks, oh so well assimilated in Russia, well, they directly sleep and see how to cuddle up to Mother Russia

[Roma 1977]

It will be like in a joke: "The political crisis in France did not take place. Both opposing sides capitulated."

[yfast]

Quote: Egoza

In any case, if the military has moved like that, maybe they will put things in order.

These will not go back, it is much worse there than some French military.

[Vol4ara]

Quote: yfast

Quote: Egoza

In any case, if the military has moved like that, maybe they will put things in order.

These will not go back, it is much worse there than some French military.

1939 - well, we will not go back, in our historical homeland it is much worse than some German military

[Roman070280]

And we have someone who will decide to put things in order ??
Eh .. forever we are the most patient ..

[Sgt.]

Migration should not be massive; it will not lead to anything good

[rennim166]

The French are a very active people. For example, raising the retirement age did not work for them. It looks like the Army is really ready to take matters into its own hands and put things in order with the migrants. Most likely, their wave will rush to Eastern Europe and to us. But we ourselves, in the light of the latest decisions, may have similar problems.

[rotmistr60]

almost half (about 49%) would support the army if it decided to take measures to restore order in the country.

It turns out that the native French are already fed up with this tolerance and multiculturalism. We earned what they wanted and what they shouted about at every corner. There is little left - to kiss the boots of the Algerians and pay compensation. And there the Vietnamese will remember the past years ...

[yfast]

Quote: Vol4ara

1939 - well, we will not go back, in our historical homeland it is much worse than some German military

So, as the Germans got bloated in the 40s, the progressive public will no longer give it.

[Slipper 2]

Got drunk tolerance to full, already tear up the beginning
He is a real hozuzuz

[Gennady Fomkin]

Who needs it?

Gali cockerel. Co-co-co.

A figure solely for compasting brains, and distracting attention. Decided nothing and will not decide.

[Gennady Fomkin]

The chief of staff of the French army took an extremely formal position and urged all signers of the letter to resign:

"The wisest thing for you is to leave the army, the army must remain politically neutral and you are prohibited from making political statements." The statement is formally correct, but crafty, since the military knows very well that when chaos and civil war begin, they will begin to be pulled over to their side by all sides of the political spectrum. That is, "army neutrality" is a sedative of well-fed times, and in bad times the army and its competence is a resource that is subject to merciless exploitation to suppress and destroy the opposing ones ..... Hmm, well, that is. France failed in self-preservation. Well, there they go

[Sasha from Uralmash]

All half of the Russians will do the same!

[Sergey Ivanov_15]

We will make Sasha, we will make you to your friend in bulk and your liberals to places not so distant for 10 years without parole !!! And the whole of Russia will breathe a sigh of relief !!!

[Sasha from Uralmash]

Bulk is a complete traitor and traitor!

[Pavel57]

Quote: Victor_B

It looks like a serious batch against Macroshi is being started ...

For Macron, you know who pays and who drowns for the military?

[Basarev]

France needs a good military dictatorship. As under Napoleon, when France became great ... But, unfortunately, due to the mutual stubbornness of the two tsars, it was not possible to resolve a not very big issue by peace - and France lost its greatness.

[Sergey Ivanov_15]

And this is all going! Most likely Buratina Rothschild will be thrown off, and Marin will rule !!! The military are very sorry that they were led to his promises !!! It got to the point that in some districts, the military command was allowed to carry weapons for self-defense !!! The cases of attacks on them and their families have become more frequent !!! The ceiling has been passed, France can flare up at any moment !!!

[babylon]

Something the numbers are very underestimated in this rating, the military would not be supported by the opinion of 70%