Revealed the reasons for the death of cadets in the An-26 plane crash near Kharkov

The investigation revealed the main reasons for the death of cadets and pilots in the An-26 plane crash, which occurred in September last year near Kharkov, near the city of Chuguev. The investigation team of the State Bureau of Investigation (SBI) of Ukraine took about eight months to do this.

According to the UNIAN agency, Vadim Priymachok, the head of the investigative department of the State Security Bureau, told reporters about this.

There were many reasons, and he gave some of them. Among other things, the disaster was caused by the presence of cadets in the crew who did not complete the full training program. When the crew commander, who did not have the necessary experience, reported the problem with the engine to the ground flight director, he did not provide assistance, but only gave the order to sit down. During landing, the crew was unable to align the An-26 turboprop, which led to the disaster.

The investigation also noted that there were often more cadets on board the plane during training than was supposed to. And to save time and fuel, the aircraft performed conveyor flights, that is, it did not stop during landing, but instead, without reducing its speed, took off again. At the same time, there was an excess of the takeoff weight of the aircraft. In addition, according to the rules, after each landing the aircraft had to be inspected by the technicians, but this did not happen with the "conveyor" method. It was during the second takeoff that the malfunction that caused the catastrophe manifested itself.

After the deaths of 19 cadets and seven officers of the Kharkiv Air Force Institute, President Volodymyr Zelenskyy awarded them posthumous medals "For military service to Ukraine." Of the 27 people on board the aircraft, only one cadet survived.

Comments

[Finches]

It’s a pity for the children, but, on the other hand, after graduation they would bomb women, old people and children of Donbass ... God is not a mickey, he has his own book!

[xorek]

Quote: Finches

It’s a pity for the children, but, on the other hand, after graduation they would bomb women, old people and children of Donbass ... God is not a mickey, he has his own book!

Eugene also immediately thought about it and I think many .. I hope everyone remembers the photos of the bombing of Donbass by fighters and turntables ..
Then they clicked, thank God .. Now they want to buy F-16s in Kiev .. There will be horror in general. This is some kind of nightmare, born in the USSR.

[antivirus]

do not choose times. so my grandfather remembered - he reads the local newspaper in the 70s or 80s and 90s and putting off sighs .. born in 1909.

[VO3A]

What a fraudulent statement! Concurrent violations that could not have led to the crash of the plane have been named!
The reason for the crash of the plane is a gross violation of the rules for operating the aircraft! A faulty plane with faulty engines was launched into flight due to the development of a time between overhauls and violations of the rules for their operation ... The faulty plane was released into flight with faulty equipment and faulty systems ... After an engine failure, which had occurred many times before This and the concealment of this fact, not a record of refusals in the working documentation, the propeller feathering system did not work in case of engine failure, which caused a sharp throw and roll of the aircraft on landing ...

[stas Sv]

The only adequate answer

[Gardener91]

Quote: Stas Sv

The only adequate answer

I share, and I can add, the military aviation in Ukraine is more likely dead than alive. Agony...

[Akuzenka]

I share, and I can add, the military aviation in Ukraine is more likely dead than alive. Agony...

And it’s just perfect!

[Gardener91]

Quote: AKuzenka

And it’s just perfect!

God does not give a horn to a thirsty cow.

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: VO3A

The reason for the crash of the aircraft was a gross violation of the rules for operating the aircraft.

and up to a heap of wrong actions of the crew in case of failure ...

[VO3A]

And where are they wrong? The propeller feathering system did not work on the failed engine! With a decrease in the landing speed, there was not enough rudder travel to compensate for the turning moment not only from engine failure, but also additional resistance from its propellers, which could not be feathery! This is no longer a landing with one engine, but a more difficult situation ... There is a video on UT where former pilots immediately gave explanations about this situation ...

[Pete mitchell]

I could be wrong, but there was information that they also performed the approach as normal: flaps to full, and not as if the engine failed. This is in addition to the fact that there were problems with the weathering system on the ground before takeoff. There are things that cannot be done from the word at all ..

[NIKN]

Yes, it is written in the article to write ... All my life they flew from the assembly line and it was normal and flew with the passage (leaving the alignment) Exercise cannot be the cause of the disaster. But the actions in the OSB may not have guessed .. it is difficult to blame someone, the guilty are already there and besides them ... Well, how? That happened, who knows how it was, all speculation ... I don't think that someone drove himself into a coffin on purpose ... Lack of time when making a decision from here and mistakes ...

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: NIKNN

... Well, how? That happened, who knows how it was, all speculation ... I don't think that someone drove himself into a coffin on purpose ...

you are absolutely right, all information goes through unverified channels. There is little real information. But the history of operation / repairs prompts unpleasant thoughts about the degradation of the entire flight safety system, under the general motto - but it will ride. It didn't work and all the omissions came together in one place ...

[Gardener91]

Quote: VO3A

There is a video on UT where the former pilots immediately gave explanations about this situation ...

Neither them nor you and I were in the cockpit! A conditionally accurate answer to the current situation on board could only be given by objective control. Have the data been published? after all, the "case" is resonant. Not a single body in ukrosmi gave links to OK data,

[Alex_You]

There were many reasons, and some of them he gave

But as always, we decided to blame everything on people.

[nnm]

Colleague, with all due respect, but the reason is not even that (technically and organizationally, I'm sure you wrote everything correctly), but that the legacy of the old Soviet army has been sold out, the system of training, control, and retraining has been lost. Above, they shout in unison about the strongest army in Europe, and while the echo is spreading, they fill their pockets, realizing that they have to have time to plunder everything that is left. And they wanted to spit on the fact that they were killing children, on how many of their soldiers would die - absolutely do not care. The main thing for the top is that they give more and more about the war with Russia ...
Recently I read an article by the former head of some Ukrainian military school about the current state of affairs with training - so there is nothing but a mat.
And all the modern problems of the Ukrainian army are flowers. For the next generation of graduates will simply be nothing

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: nnm

For the next generation of graduates will simply be nothing

And thank God ! Not a state worth worrying about.

[knn54]

I flew not to Chuguev, but to Kharkov, contrary to the statement, which causes bewilderment.
Second, there was a fire in the salon. There are almost no traces outside.
An acquaintance, who was traveling to Chuguev literally right after the disaster, told the story.
The third (again, from the words of the former aircraft technician) is symbolic prevention instead of overhaul at the Kiev aircraft repair plant. Considering that the director and concurrently chief specialist is a certain protégé with legal education, the quality of the work performed at the specified enterprise raises doubts.
They (perhaps) are trying to get her out of the "blow".

[Roman1970_1]

I am very sorry, but how do you know? Maybe it's just pilots' mistakes or something else.
I do not think that the investigation team leaked information to you

[VO3A]

Do you think that the investigation team had the opportunity to find something, to establish the reasons? They carried out the order and defended the "honor of the uniform" ... After all, everyone must be removed from office, starting with the Chief Engineer of the Air Force, the department of the Ministry of Defense headquarters in charge of military VVUZ, partly of the Air Force headquarters, all structures related to operation, structures of military education, operational structures "Motor Sich" ...., to jail the operators in the VVUZ ..... Do you know how an investigation is carried out when a military plane crashes? .. In Ukraine they do not know, everything was done chaotically and funny from the very beginning ...

[Piramidon]

Quote: VO3A

A faulty aircraft with faulty engines was released into flight due to the development of a between-repair resource

But the engine is made in Ukraine. What was the cost of replacing it in a timely manner? The toad was choking, or is it simple indifference and carelessness?

[Alexander Seklitsky]

Quote: VO3A

the propeller feathering system did not work in case of engine failure, which caused a sharp throw and roll of the aircraft on landing ...

or the wrong propeller is feathering. It turns out there are many similar cases when the wrong manual feathering valve is pulled in the steam. At the same time, the engine automatically stops and the plane turns out to be without engines at all at a low altitude

[Incvizitor]

I don’t feel sorry for them.

Essentially the same thing.

[Revolver]

And if you were born there and then, what would you do?

Quote: Stalin I.V.

Order of the People's Commissar of Defense February 23, 1942 No. 55
... Hitlers come and go, but the German people, and the German state remains

[Kaman]

I disagree ... but what about the Russian TU with the song and dance ensemble, which crashed during takeoff to Syria?

[JD1979]

Again ... dumber and dumber ...

Quote: Finches

After graduation they would have bombed women, old people and children of Donbass ... God is not a mickey, he has his own book!

Why do people need a head? To eat, and if there is oak bark ...
An-26 is a transport plane, I wonder who could be cooked on it?
Crew:
1.crew commander,
2.CE assistant,
3.onboard technician,
4. navigator,
5.flight radio operator
6. Airborne Equipment Technician.
Tell me what could have bombed and with what flight engineer or navigator or radio operator eh?
Yes, VTA aircraft can carry a small amount of bomb artillery. But! Who and when actually used the VTA as bombers, except for training purposes?

[Gardener91]

Quote: JD1979

Yes, VTA aircraft can carry a small amount of bomb artillery. But! Who and when actually used the VTA as bombers, except for training purposes?

And what interferes with the appropriate equipment on board the An-26 to train navigator-operators on the Su-24, who are still breathing in Ukraine?

[JD1979]

Quote: Gardener91

And what interferes with the appropriate equipment on board the An-26 to train navigator-operators on the Su-24, who are still breathing in Ukraine?

Hand-face ... and this is an adult writing ...

[Gardener91]

Quote: JD1979

Hand face...

No, face muzzle, I'm still a kid ... https: //zen.yandex.ru/media/aircraft_technician/antonov-an26sh-na-chem-obuchaiutsia-kursantyshturmany-smotrim-gruzovoi-otsek-5e20fd258d5b5f00ad1e9d82

[JD1979]

And what did you want to show me with this link? That navigators are trained on the An-26Sh - well, they are preparing navigators, just navigators. And in order for him to then become the navigator of the Su-24, the Su-24 is needed. It's like a general and narrow specialization.

[Gardener91]

Quote: JD1979

It's like a general and narrow specialization.

Without the Su-24, the An-26Sh can work out approach patterns using the system, with a straight line, in a circle, 2 × 180. Both in the standard and at low altitude. Going to the target at a given time and a banal flight along the route. Well, and the specifics of combat use, of course, you need a "suitcase", the flights of cadets-navigators on which will be simply unbearable in the low state of the Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

[Berkut154]

Item 3: Flight mechanic.
But it is not important. What does it mean to bomb or not to bomb? The BTA has other tasks in the interests of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. And the fact that they are transporting military cargo is no less harmful than the bombing !!!

[Ovsigovets]

The reason for the death of the cadets - the plane crash - it was visible with an "unarmed" look ... but the reasons that led to the fall itself are yesaaaaaa

[Tusv]

Quote: Ovsigovets

The reason for the death of the cadets is the crash of the plane

Not. There is a dissenting opinion. A little freaked out from this version

And to save time and fuel, the aircraft performed conveyor flights, that is, it did not stop during landing, but instead, without reducing its speed, took off again.

Was it like some cadets jumped out, others jumped?
Tin-plate

[Avior]

no
one cadet makes a landing, then take off, and in the air he sits down at the helm of another, and so on.
or the same cadet performs several sequential landing and take-off times to practice skills
this is the usual method of training cadet pilots.
the article is kind of indistinct

[The leader of the Redskins]

Rest the souls of the children of the victims, and the survivor - recovery.

[not main]

Quote: Avior

no
one cadet makes a landing, then take off, and in the air he sits down at the helm of another, and so on.
or the same cadet performs several sequential landing and take-off times to practice skills
this is the usual method of training cadet pilots.
the article is kind of indistinct

That's right! Here are just a school, then STURMANSKY! Therefore, there are so many cadets and so many visits! All the same, the difference in the training of the navigator and the pilot is huge!

[Avior]

no
The Ivan Kozhedub Kharkiv National Air Force University trains both pilots and navigators at the flight department.
http://www.hups.mil.gov.ua/lotniy-fakyltet/

[Roman1970_1]

Supermen. Who else can jump into the AN 26 at takeoff speed

when landing, it did not stop, but instead, without reducing its speed, took off again

[not main]

Quote: Roman1970_1

Supermen. Who else can jump into the AN 26 at takeoff speed

when landing, it did not stop, but instead, without reducing its speed, took off again

Read the KULP! I don't know what the navigators called it.

[Pete mitchell]

Honestly, I did not understand at all what the article was about, but clearly does not correspond to the title

[Normal ok]

Quote: Pete Mitchell

Honestly, I did not understand at all what the article was about, but clearly does not correspond to the title

Yes, news from other publications is confusedly and inaccurately retold here. More complete and accurate information can be found on the Internet.

[Gardener91]

Quote: Pete Mitchell

Honestly, I did not understand at all what the article was about, but clearly does not correspond to the title

Well, yes, the culprits and reasons are not named. Otherwise, the result of the investigation could have been voiced as follows: - The culprits are all involved in the admission of the maintenance and operation of this aircraft, up to the commander-in-chief of the Air Force and the Minister of Defense with the zeleglavkom. And it won't be possible to write off the "perednikov". The cause of the plane crash is the policy of "independence" that has been pursued for 30 years!

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: Gardener91

The cause of the plane crash is the policy of "independence" that has been pursued for 30 years!

Sadness ... As our instructors said - where do not kiss the cadet, there is one mysterious place everywhere ...

[Gardener91]

Quote: Pete Mitchell

where do not kiss the cadet, there is one mysterious place everywhere ...

But they grew up and remained human ...

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: Gardener91

after all, they grew up and remained human ...

In no small measure, because the elders were far from democratic values, and did not hesitate to hand out the cuffs

[not main]

Quote: Pete Mitchell

As our instructors said - wherever you kiss the cadet, there is one mysterious place everywhere ...

This was said by ALL the instructors, and over the years I really understand them!

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: non-primary

This was said by ALL the instructors, and over the years I really understand them!

I also understand them now, especially after I tried on this skin myself. It's a pity the growing up are not like we were. Remember as Janissary in "72 meters": Easy-access, in Russian there is ... what was not there

[Avior]

and what does this have to do with sensor failure or plane crash?
even with the most ideal service, a sensor breakdown could not have led to a disaster.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Gardener91

The cause of the plane crash is ongoing independence policy for 30 years!

Quasi-irrelevance. And the capitalist vector.

[Mouse]

"And to save time and fuel, the aircraft performed conveyor flights, that is, it did not stop during landing, but instead, without reducing its speed, took off again."
It is called both the mouth and the booty ... too much ...

[Volga073]

Some jumped, others jumped out? Is it a conveyor belt?

[Mouse]

Apparently ... Sad conveyor ...

[Gardener91]

Quote: Mouse

"And to save time and fuel, the aircraft performed conveyor flights, that is, it did not stop during landing, but instead, without reducing its speed, took off again."
It is called both the mouth and the booty ... too much ...

Common practice with appropriate flight arrangements.

[xorek]

After 19 cadets and seven officers of the Kharkiv Air Force Institute were killed, President Volodymyr Zelenskyy awarded them posthumous medals "For Military Service to Ukraine."

A strange reward for the dead .. Well Zelensky was a clown and stayed.

[Gardener91]

Quote: xorek

A strange reward for the dead .. Well Zelensky was a clown and stayed.

Well, yes, they have not yet had time to serve.

[xorek]

Quote: Gardener91

Quote: xorek

A strange reward for the dead .. Well Zelensky was a clown and stayed.

Well, yes, they have not yet had time to serve.

Well, don’t know, it depends on where they typed .. And the set was tough in affiliation, mostly the Westerners are sure of this. Because they were recruited to fight and kill, and they knew very well what they would have ahead of for flights ..

[Gardener91]

Quote: xorek

depending on where you typed

They are everywhere, in all layers. The worst thing in the education and management system.
dast nacht osten if applicable. Not with regard to Germany.

[AUL]

Quote: Gardener91

start nacht osten

Actually drang nach osten. Well, that's it, for the sake of boring

[petrol cutter]

I don't follow UA very much after '14.
Although, no matter how much ...
I just learned about such events.
My belated condolences.
Nevertheless, these are military people. They knew what they were doing.

[Nikifor Terskikh]

And will you also express condolences to the relatives of civilians killed in the Boeing downed by Ukraine of flight mn-17 ?!

[petrol cutter]

"Will you also express condolences to the relatives of civilians killed in the Boeing downed by Ukraine of flight mn-17 ?!"
And I will express it to them. I'm not sorry for expressions of condolence.
What's the problem?

[iouris]

Regardless of what the commission has "dug up", the conclusion shows that a "political decision" has been made, because the "state" and the Ministry of Defense are to blame. However, given the current state of affairs in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, it makes no sense to study the materials of the accident. Everything is coming to an end. Nothing can be fixed. There is no resource, no money, personnel is degrading. It's amazing that anyone else wants to become a military pilot.

[Gardener91]

Quote: iouris

There is no resource, no money, personnel is degrading. It's amazing that anyone else wants to become a military pilot.

You have no idea how much you are right. There's aviation full of seams.

[Alien From]

If you carefully read the article, you understand that this is just nonsense.

[kokaINru]

In 3 years the truth will be revealed, not now. Petrov and Bashirov! Other THERE is not interesting to anyone

[Avior]

Some kind of dregs.
Takeoff - conveyor landing training is a common element of cadet training around the world.

Conveyor landing (or "conveyor landing" or "conveyor flight", in English terminology - touch and go, "touch and leave") - landing of an aircraft followed by takeoff, is performed, as a rule, for educational purposes in order to save time and increase training intensity. The pilot or cadet performs all the actions as during a normal landing, and after the landing gear touches the runway, the actions begin as during takeoff (flaps to takeoff position, increase in engine speed to takeoff, lift-off and climb, and then on assignment) ...

it is not clear from the article what is the reason for the plane crash during landing after detecting a sensor breakage

[Dmitriy444]

Training flights are carried out with landing and take-off conveyor, to increase the time for training cadets. If after each landing you taxi in, turn off the engines and inspect, these will not be training flights, but few repeated flights.

[zenion]

Cases of Petrov and Boshirov. They tied the plane on a string and twisted it overhead. The thread broke.

[Metallurg_2]

Not interested. I thought they would drag Petrova and Boshirov again.

[exo]

Conveyor take-off and landing, common practice. He himself observed and had the opportunity to fly on such flights, at the Lugansk School of Navigators, in 1990, and also on the AN-26SH.

[akarfoxhound]

And I'm about the same, the essence of the laid out reason is nonsense

[bober1982]

Quote: exo

Conveyor take-off and landing, common practice.

Quote: exo

at the Lugansk School of Navigators, in 1990, and also on the AN-26SH.

There was no such training in the navigational schools, there was simply no need for this, the An-26sh is an aircraft for the initial training of the navigator of navigation.
Landing with a conveyor belt, the same An-26sh, was, of course, carried out, but during flights without cadets-navigators, when the flight personnel of training regiments flew, as they say, on themselves, that is, to practice piloting techniques, commissioning, control checks, etc. .d.
The main reason for the crash of the Ukrainian An-26sh is the complete collapse of the local air force, everything and everything that Mr. Priymachok said - the usual or unusual, bleating of a goat.

[exo]

We flew without cadets. The flights were night.

[bober1982]

Quote: exo

We flew without cadets. The flights were night.

All right

[Dizel200]

Not Boshirov with a partner? It’s strange.

[Nikifor Terskikh]

Dill Boeing mn-17 "landed" with much greater civilian casualties, for a minute! You always have to pay for everything!

[tralflot1832]

When this catastrophe happened, I always stood in my position. I will not forget and will not forgive the Luhansk Madonna. They were already combat pilots and navigator. They made their choice.

[akarfoxhound]

Delirium, conveyor - a standard KBP exercise, provided for crew training on all types of aircraft, from fighters to transports, the calculation of speeds depending on mass (due to fuel consumption) is carried out by the navigator constantly, otherwise you will not sit down. Or xoxly laid out nonsense or a journalist, without adding the essence, posted this nonsense

[dgonni]

What can be the overload then? If he takes on board 30 paratroopers in full gear?
And there were only 27 people on board with the crew?
Well, the conveyor is a standard procedure.

[bogart047]

there they are and the road. In hell

[Cook]

I still do not understand, what failed? Why is the propeller of the failed engine not feathering? If the auto-weather vane sensor by PCM, then it will not work in the mode below 35 + 5 g according to UPRT, but the negative thrust of the auto-weather vane on the An-26 does not. In general, as far as I remember, the Airplane Flight Manual says that after adding the flaps to the landing angle, the sideboard must carefully monitor the engine control devices, and be ready, if signs of failure appear, to immediately feather the propeller of the failed engine with the KFL-37 button. And then the count goes on in seconds, the propeller goes to a full weather vane in 10 seconds. And there is one more significant nuance, the procedure should only be as follows: a weather vane to a failed one, a flap retraction to 15 degrees, a working nominal value. If the flaps are not retracted, even with a failed propeller, giving gas to the working one provokes the occurrence of a roll and slip, so strong that it is not possible to parry it with rudders and ailerons. Here it is not necessary to report the RP, but to act very quickly and correctly. Greatly depends on the flight of the commander and b / t.

[Berkut154]

Yes, he got airborne !!! In general, you have to be a very "talented" pilot so that if the PRT refuses to "fill up" the AN-26 !!! Since when did they want to extend the flaps to 38? Why did they constantly increase the right one ???? Go ... slide !!! That's all!!!

[sgr291158]

Well, thank God, at least Russia has nothing to do with it.

[Avior]

We have already discussed that this is nonsense about the conveyor method.
This is how all pilots around the world are actually trained.