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The US Air Force decided to update the fleet of fighters: the F-22 in the long term will not be in it

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US Air Force Chief of Staff, General Charles Brown, Jr., in his speech at the McAleese FY2022 conference on defense programs, raised the topic of fighter-assault organization aviation the future. The general announced that he is going to reduce the number of types of fighters used in the US Air Force from 7 to 4. The corresponding budgetary costs will also be planned under this program.


Four instead of seven: which planes will be left in the fleet of fighter-assault aviation


As noted by Brown, he considers it necessary to keep the A-10 attack aircraft "for a while", to make the F-35 the dominant fighter, and to keep the F-15EX and F-16 as well. As you can see, in the list announced by the Chief of Staff of the US Air Force, there was no place for the fifth generation fighter F-22.

F-16s will be with us for a while, but they will be replaced by something else,

said Brown.

What exactly is going to be replaced by the Chief of Staff of the Air Force is still unknown. It is possible that these will be additionally released F-35s.

Recall that currently the fleet of 7 fighters and attack aircraft of the US Air Force includes F-15C / D, F-15E, F-15EX, F-16, F-22, F-35 and A-10 aircraft. At the same time, the F-18 is not considered here, since in the United States it is classified as a multipurpose carrier-based aircraft (including a bomber function) related to the structures of the Navy.

The reduction in the number of types of fighters used is planned for reasons of economy: at present, excessive budget funds are spent on the maintenance of such a diverse and numerous fighters, and the Pentagon wants to reduce financial costs for the fleet of fighter aircraft.

Naturally, the American press had relevant questions, to which the representative of the US Air Force replied that General Brown spoke about the long-term prospects for the development of American fighter aircraft. If we speak in this context, then in 2030 the F-22 will have reached its venerable age and sooner or later the fighters of this model will start to fail.

When will the F-22 be decommissioned and which fighters will follow with it


As noted by the spokesman for the Air Force Anne Stefanek, currently the F-22 aircraft are being upgraded. Therefore, it is still difficult to say when the aircraft of this model will be decommissioned from the US Air Force. She also noted that the A-10 attack aircraft will be used until the 2030s, but no more.

Another “candidate for departure” is the F-15E fighter. It is also planned to be decommissioned in the 2030s, since it will have the same wear and tear as the current F-15C / D fleet by that time. The last F-15E aircraft were acquired by American aviation in the late 1990s, that is, more than 20 years ago.

However, most of the fighters of this model used in the US Air Force are even older. That is, they are on average thirty years old. Instead of the F-15E, the US Air Force is going to purchase 144 F-15EX, while the contract with Boeing provides for the purchase of up to 200 aircraft of this model.

The Chief of Staff of the US Air Force also stressed that the final decision on which aircraft will remain on the list of used aircraft will be made in 8 years. General Brown also announced plans to increase the number of unmanned aerial vehicles, which should become more and more in the US Air Force over time.
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  1. poquello
    poquello 13 May 2021 18: 20
    +6
    here you are, you need to listen to those who fried here for f22 not childishly
    1. hrych
      hrych 13 May 2021 18: 33
      +7
      Quote: poquello
      fried here for f22

      Apparently overcooked wassat
      1. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 13 May 2021 22: 09
        +3
        Quote: hrych
        Apparently overcooked

        On the contrary, they soaked it: this device was flooded with jets of kosher boiling water. fellow laughing
    2. Eldorado
      Eldorado 13 May 2021 18: 42
      +11
      This aircraft was developed back in the late 80s - early 90s. This is the world's first 5th generation aircraft; a number of technologies and solutions used in it are already outdated.
      Plus they were released a little and were actively exploited, many have already exhausted their resource and cannot rise into the sky.
      The car is very complex and capricious in operation, worse than the F-35. It does not fit into the current US Air Force concept.
      Plus, the Americans are already working on the 6th generation (NGAD project.)
      1. NIKN
        NIKN 13 May 2021 18: 54
        +2
        Your logic is correct and there is nothing to argue about. But even their economics concluded in favor of efficiency and quality ... But engineering and technical developments even allowed us to advance the movement of life, even when there were enemies. :))
      2. poquello
        poquello 13 May 2021 19: 07
        +1
        Quote: El Dorado
        Plus they were released a little and were actively exploited, many have already exhausted their resource and cannot rise into the sky.

        ok, they are from 2001, while su30mk from 93rd, su35 from 2012 and nothing, they fly to themselves
        1. Alex777
          Alex777 13 May 2021 22: 17
          0
          With the F-22, everything is clear. States built 187 units. made the estimated number of spare engines for the entire life cycle and dismantled the production.
          And then, as if on evil, let our Tu-95 fly past Alaska.
          And the development of engine resources went much faster than the plan.
          And restoring production is unrealistic.
          1. Revolver
            Revolver 14 May 2021 01: 06
            +4
            Quote: Alex777
            And restoring production is unrealistic.

            Not so much even unrealistic as too expensive.
            1. Alex777
              Alex777 14 May 2021 08: 15
              0
              Not so much even unrealistic as too expensive.

              It is unrealistic both because it is expensive and because the Air Force is going to replace the F-22 with NGAD.
              There is no point in investing money in maintaining the F-22. hi
        2. Cottodraton
          Cottodraton 14 May 2021 03: 43
          0
          If really in fact, then su 30 from the middle or even closer to the end of the two thousandth ... I'm talking about just production
          1. poquello
            poquello 14 May 2021 16: 58
            0
            Quote: Cottodraton
            If really in fact, then su 30 from the middle or even closer to the end of the two thousandth ... I'm talking about just production

            I guess you wanted something too early?
            "For the first time, a striking version of the vehicle was presented in 1993 at the Aviation Show in Le Bourget (France). It was specially modified for an improved weapon control system. the first production aircraft Su-30... In the spring of 1994, in order to demonstrate the capabilities of the machine, it was decided to show the Su-30MK at an arms exhibition in Chile, where the plane flew across the ocean without refueling in flight, which in itself became a sensation. "
            United Aircraft Corporation
      3. kulinar
        kulinar 13 May 2021 20: 07
        +1
        Quote: El Dorado
        This aircraft was developed back in the late 80s - early 90s. This is the world's first 5th generation aircraft; a number of technologies and solutions used in it are already outdated.
        Plus they were released a little and were actively exploited, many have already exhausted their resource and cannot rise into the sky.
        The car is very complex and capricious in operation, worse than the F-35. It does not fit into the current US Air Force concept.
        Plus, the Americans are already working on the 6th generation (NGAD project.)

        And about "Warthog" casually ...
        Good car. Modern, well, not very winked , analogue of IL-2. "Rook" is also in the ranks.
        1. Avior
          Avior 13 May 2021 23: 42
          0
          with the increasing use of guided munitions, they are becoming a thing of the past.
          with guided ammunition and sighting containers with high-resolution cameras, and even more so with a radar with a high-resolution mapping mode, it is no longer necessary to attack targets in the area of ​​action of the enemy's MZA and MANPADS.
      4. Adimius38
        Adimius38 13 May 2021 22: 51
        0
        They've been released enough. Tell me what other country had 187 serial fifth generation fighters ??? Maybe Russia)) alas, at that time we only dreamed about it and to this day we do not even have one air regiment with 5th generation fighters.
        1. Sanichsan
          Sanichsan 14 May 2021 14: 37
          -1
          Quote: Adimius38
          Tell me what other country had 187 serial fifth generation fighters ???

          you forgot to insert the word "American".
          like this is correct:
          Quote: Adimius38
          Tell me what other country had 187 production fighters American fifth generation ???

          if you familiarize yourself with the requirements for the 5th generation, you will find that they are all different and the F-22 does not meet the Russian requirements for the 5th generation, that is, for Russia it is not a 5th generation fighter and has never been. does not match the requirements.
          1. vadim dok
            vadim dok 14 May 2021 18: 21
            0
            Of course, SU 57 is a super duper! But where is he in the series? Or as a gopher - he is not visible, but he is, with only one difference - he is not visible and he is not!
            1. Sanichsan
              Sanichsan 14 May 2021 19: 07
              0
              Quote: vadim dok
              Of course SU 57 is a super duper, but where is he in the series?

              and this has to do with it? just wanted to fart? laughing
              the fact that they are in no hurry to start production of an unfinished car is quite logical, but at least we and the Chinese have localized production, and the United States did not have and does not have its own production of the F-35. As for the production of 5th generation fighters, only Russia and China have their own production now wink
      5. mark2
        mark2 13 May 2021 22: 59
        +2
        This is the world's first 5th generation aircraft, a number of technologies and solutions used in it are already outdated, and does not fit into the current concept of the US Air Force.
        Plus, the Americans are already working on the 6th generation (NGAD project.)


        That is why the USA decided to purchase the "newest" F-15EX models? Rollback from 5 to
        4th generation? But this is different ... it's only in Russia that old stuff flies.
        And yes, another advertisement for American hobbyists, which should be rejoicing.
      6. Strength
        Strength 14 May 2021 00: 05
        +1
        That's exactly what he said F-22 will be replaced by the NGAD project. Only here it was "forgotten" to mention)))
    3. xorek
      xorek 13 May 2021 18: 47
      0
      Quote: poquello
      here you are, you need to listen to those who fried here for f22 not childishly

      Coming soon, don't worry about it .. laughing They will say that you misunderstood the article, etc. wink
    4. Finches
      Finches 13 May 2021 19: 16
      -3
      Israelis and Ukrainians fried ... Eco unprecedented! As my grandmother used to say, who defended the war at the bench, so at least .... in the eyes, all the dew of God! laughing
    5. TermNachTer
      TermNachTer 13 May 2021 19: 43
      +3
      It's one thing to grind with your tongue, and another thing to beat out money from Congress))) a quarter of a lard for one yaroplan of dubious quality - that's a lot even for the Washington Reich Chancellery.
      1. poquello
        poquello 13 May 2021 21: 30
        -1
        Quote: TermNachTER
        It's one thing to grind with your tongue, and another thing to beat out money from Congress))) a quarter of a lard for one yaroplan of dubious quality - that's a lot even for the Washington Reich Chancellery.

    6. SovAr238A
      SovAr238A 14 May 2021 08: 38
      0
      Quote: poquello
      here you are, you need to listen to those who fried here for f22 not childishly


      A third of the F-22 aircraft have a life span of 15 years.
      By 2030, these aircraft will have 25-28 years of service.
      And the remaining hundred aircraft will have 20-25 years of service.
      The device, in principle, will serve its entirety.

      There is not a single modern aircraft with modernization potential with the current rate of development of science and technology. No modern aircraft, no matter how you upgrade it, will be able to compete on different aircraft with aircraft that will be developed by 2030.
      Neither Rafale, nor Raptor, nor Sushki.
      Just because. that this new aircraft should be made according to the so-called sixth technological order.


      And I understand that you have not actually read the text. For it says "General Brown talked about the long term"
    7. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 14 May 2021 09: 19
      0
      They now have another sacred cow fu 35 and when their households let her go for meat they will say so and should have been.
      1. Sanichsan
        Sanichsan 14 May 2021 14: 45
        -1
        Quote: Incvizitor
        and when their households let her go for meat, they will say so and should have been.

        well, it won't be soon. The F-35 is primarily a commercial project. not for war, for sale wink
        1. Incvizitor
          Incvizitor 14 May 2021 17: 55
          +1
          Until the "6th generation" comes out, then they will vparivat it.
          1. Sanichsan
            Sanichsan 14 May 2021 19: 01
            0
            Quote: Incvizitor
            Until the "6th generation" comes out, then they will vparivat it.

            not everything is smooth here. in the air smells of gunpowder, and for war not only pictures of the 6th generation, but even 5 is not very suitable. too stretched supply chains and too smeared production, and the technologies are too complex and with too small tolerances ... recently in the USA they tried to use ersatz instead of licensed spare parts in the F-35 and immediately a couple of aircraft fell. request
  2. bk0010
    bk0010 13 May 2021 18: 20
    -4
    What dunce! They ruin their best car!
    1. Alexander 3
      Alexander 3 13 May 2021 18: 28
      0
      I'm only glad to let them continue to do this right thing. Let them fly at f16.
      1. El Chuvachino
        El Chuvachino 13 May 2021 18: 37
        +5
        What is there to be happy about? Their F-15EX is now the most formidable and dangerous fighter. Order for 200 pcs. - this is not very good news.
        1. hrych
          hrych 13 May 2021 19: 11
          +6
          There is logic here. The stake exclusively on low-altitude breakthrough began to fail with the development of ZGRLS, air defense systems, etc. Also, the stealth aircraft are controlled by AWACS aircraft, and we have air-to-air missiles with a range of 400 km on them. They were also frightened by promising onyx-based missiles with a range of more than 500 km, also aimed at AWACS aircraft. The space arms race is also beginning. F-15 Asat will be reanimated and looking at the Dagger, they will have to respond with aeroballistic missiles. No half-dead F-35 is physically capable of this.
          1. Sanichsan
            Sanichsan 14 May 2021 14: 51
            0
            Quote: hrych
            The stake solely on a low-altitude breakthrough began to fail with the development of ZGRLS, air defense systems, etc.

            they forgot about ROFAR, but this technology is already on its way. successful tests of the test specimen have already been passed. so, what is next? all stealth goes to chase the Palestinians because against the powers that own the technology ROFAR is completely useless? awkwardly comes out ...
    2. hrych
      hrych 13 May 2021 18: 31
      0
      Quote: bk0010
      They ruin their best car!
      Apparently Brown has other data. Share yours with him, maybe he will see. wassat
      1. bk0010
        bk0010 13 May 2021 18: 32
        +2
        Quote: hrych
        Apparently Brown has other data. Share yours with him, maybe he will see.
        What for? Let it ruin.
    3. figwam
      figwam 13 May 2021 18: 35
      -2
      Quote: bk0010
      They ruin their best car!

      She's just not the best.
      1. bk0010
        bk0010 13 May 2021 18: 37
        0
        Quote: figvam
        She's just not the best.
        Who's the best?
        1. figwam
          figwam 13 May 2021 18: 46
          +3
          Quote: bk0010
          Who's the best?

          They modernized and resumed production of the F-15, which is currently their best aircraft.
          1. hrych
            hrych 13 May 2021 18: 50
            0
            The best US aircraft in service is the B-1b. Let's call the F-15 the best fighter in the United States.
            1. figwam
              figwam 13 May 2021 18: 59
              +3
              Quote: hrych
              The best US aircraft in service - B-1b

              The lowest percentage of combat-ready aircraft is 15%, the flights of the entire fleet are suspended every year due to technical problems, the latter happened in Norway, one of the aircraft could not fly to the USA due to engine failure.
              1. hrych
                hrych 13 May 2021 19: 26
                -2
                That their fleet is neglected does not make the plane bad laughing He's a victim of stealth hysteria. Although he himself had a stealth coating, he became a hostage to his own speed. First, B-1A was killed by pressing it to the ground and smearing it with radio-absorbing feces. But when it was necessary to frighten Eun, there was nothing better than the B-1b. But the best thing the western aviation industry has done is the B-1. We have the best, and also the best in the world, of course, the Tu-160.
                1. bk0010
                  bk0010 13 May 2021 19: 54
                  +1
                  Well then, the F-111 (destroyed earlier, though): the B-1B is too expensive and ridiculous (a swivel wing and powerful engines of a transonic aircraft, a small bomb bay, into which only the latest missiles, which are not really there yet, are not fully completed, problems with body, etc.).
                  1. hrych
                    hrych 13 May 2021 20: 03
                    -2
                    Firstly, the B-1 is in service. The F-111 was really cool, but it floated. It was long-range, and the B-1 was strategic. If the B-1 is comparable to the Tu-160, then the F-111 must be leveled with the Tu-22M3. Naturally, ours rule in both categories.
                  2. Charik
                    Charik 14 May 2021 00: 45
                    0
                    radar station AN / APQ-164; inertial navigation system SKN-2440; satellite navigation system, Doppler ground speed and drift angle AN / APN-218; astroinertial navigation system NAS-26; satellite communication system AN / ASC-19; radio stations AN / ARC-190 and AN / ARC-171; radio station for closed communication channels KY-58; AN / ARKH-101A "friend or foe" identification system; intercom system; high-altitude radio altimeter AN / ASN-131; low-altitude radio altimeter AN / APN-224; radio navigation system TACAN AN / ARN-118; radio-technical landing system AN / ARN-108; AN / ALQ-153 rear hemisphere radar warning system; Tail protection radar; AN / ALQ-161 electronic warfare system, AN / ALQ-157 active IR jamming station, AN / ALE-40 decoy firing system.

                    Aircraft armament. In two bomb compartments, you can hang missile and bomb weapons weighing up to 34000 kg, including free-fall bombs Mk 82 (84 pieces) or Mk 84 (24 pieces), sea mines Mk 62 (84 pieces) or Mk 65 (8 pieces) .), cluster bombs CBU-87/89/97 (30 pcs.) or CBU-103/104 WCMD (30 pcs.), guided bombs GBU-31 (24 pcs.) or GBU-38/54 (15 pcs.), cruise missiles AGM-158A / C (24 pcs.) AGM-154 JSOW
                    1. bk0010
                      bk0010 14 May 2021 11: 45
                      0
                      Quote: Charik
                      radar ... installation of shooting decoy targets AN / ALE-40
                      What is all this listing for?
                      By mid-1986, the AN / ALQ-161 electronic warfare system - the main means of protection in combat flight - revealed serious shortcomings that required significant improvements. The characteristics of the system could not be brought to the calculated, in addition, according to representatives of the Ministry of Defense, it turned out that the AN / ALQ-161 was designed without taking into account the characteristics of the radar of Russian fourth-generation fighters. In the early 1990s, the possibility of re-equipping B-1B bombers with AN / ALQ-172 (V1) electronic warfare systems, removed from obsolete B-52G bombers, was considered, however, due to the reorientation of the aircraft to solve tactical tasks, these plans were probably abandoned.

                      Quote: Charik
                      In two bomb compartments, you can hang missile and bomb weapons weighing up to 34000 kg, including free-fall bombs Mk 82 (84 pieces) or Mk 84 (24 pieces), sea mines Mk 62 (84 pieces) or Mk 65 (8 pieces) .), cluster bombs CBU-87/89/97 (30 pcs.) or CBU-103/104 WCMD (30 pcs.), guided bombs GBU-31 (24 pcs.) or GBU-38/54 (15 pcs.), cruise missiles AGM-158A / C (24 pcs.) AGM-154 JSOW
                      And it was necessary to intermeddle AGM-86. But she didn’t fit, so send your options.
                      1. Charik
                        Charik 14 May 2021 14: 56
                        0
                        now it doesn't matter, there are 158 and 154,
                      2. bk0010
                        bk0010 14 May 2021 18: 12
                        0
                        Now. Only more than 35 years have passed since they were needed. By the way, they are both non-nuclear. And now for the B-1B nuclear missiles are not needed: the B-1Bs have been withdrawn from the strategic aviation, their air refueling system has been removed, and the electronic warfare still does not correspond to the high rank of "electronic warfare of a strategic missile carrier."
                      3. Charik
                        Charik 15 May 2021 00: 54
                        0
                        So we put back the system of dzp-on Tu160 or Tu22 - they can’t perhaps, and this B1B fly to all possible airfields, either to Australia or to Greenland, where I don’t know yet, but given their range of weapons, a particularly dangerous aircraft ( I apologize a thousand times that no punctuation marks are dark and switch the layout constantly)
        2. Zhenya Khazarsky
          Zhenya Khazarsky 14 May 2021 12: 34
          0
          And if at all the best, then I suggest - SR-71 good
          1. hrych
            hrych 14 May 2021 13: 20
            0
            No, he's not the best. Speed ​​record for a manned vehicle with a turbojet engine, and that's all. And then, they say, our MiG-25 overtook it, but the FAI ignored it. 3700 km / h was recorded by Israeli locators. And ours claimed 3820 km / h, achieved by accident, when the lantern melted. SR-71 accelerated to 3529,56 km / h. But they could not make a combat aircraft out of it at all. They tried to make a scout, but also did not pull, flew only along the borders of the USSR and did not stick it. The cross was put on it by serial interceptors Mig-25 and Mig-31, which intercepted it. But the plane should not set records, but should be a combat plane. Therefore, the SR-71 never took place, either as a combat aircraft or as a reconnaissance aircraft. Here U-2 is still in service. The SR-71 is not currently in service. But the Mig-31, which blocked its path, is in service, is being modernized and now it has become the carrier of the Dagger. In the ranking of airplanes of mankind, I would put the Tu-160 in the first place, the B-1 in the second, the Tu22M3 in the third, the MiG-31 in the fourth, everything else is inferior by a margin.
  • ammunition
    ammunition 13 May 2021 18: 26
    +3
    A strange pattern. Military technology (and space), developed over the past 30 years, "does not roll" ... no one else. All over the world, they are modernizing what was in the days of the USSR.
    1. Eldorado
      Eldorado 13 May 2021 18: 57
      +4
      All modern equipment corny does not correspond to the price-quality ratio (the exception is the fleet). It is more efficient than a 30-year-old technique, but much more expensive and more difficult to maintain.
      1. ammunition
        ammunition 13 May 2021 19: 24
        +2
        Quote: El Dorado
        All modern technology corny does not correspond to the ratio "price-quality"

        Are you saying you hit the barrier of the exhibitor? .. When an increase in efficiency by 10% requires a 5-fold increase in costs, and another 10% - a 20-fold increase in costs? Do you understand correctly?
        1. Sanichsan
          Sanichsan 14 May 2021 15: 23
          +1
          Quote: ammunition
          Are you saying you hit the barrier of the exhibitor?

          IMHO the point is quite different. in the last century, technology was made for war, in this century, for sale. everything was fine until 2014, but here you have a new cold war and again you need equipment for the war. it is within the framework of this new paradigm that one has to modernize for the war what was built for the war.
          the new technique is good, but, among other things, it has a very serious drawback, very low possibilities for recovering losses. expensive, difficult to manufacture, etc.
          add to this the progress of means of destruction. distances are no longer a problem. you can't sit out across the ocean. that is, all production facilities from the very beginning of the conflict are immediately in the affected area.
          what are the options for action? the most obvious is the modernization of old weapons, which are easier to maintain and manufacture and at least localized in the country, in contrast to the same F-35. request
          1. ammunition
            ammunition 14 May 2021 16: 37
            0
            Quote: SanichSan
            difficult to manufacture, etc.
            ............... and at least localized in the country, unlike the same

            It may very well be.
  • OgnennyiKotik
    OgnennyiKotik 13 May 2021 18: 27
    +2
    At the same time, the F-18 is not considered here.

    Naturally not considered. There is no such plane in their aircraft. There is the FA-18C / D Hornet, which was decommissioned from AB, it seems that the FA-18E / F Super Hornet also remained in the KMP. Which really have nothing to do with the Air Force. They serve (s) in the Navy and the ILC.

    The F-22s will naturally be written off in the 30s, they are a suitcase without a handle. After saturation of the F-35 and the appearance of the pre-production NGAD.
    1. poquello
      poquello 13 May 2021 18: 43
      -4
      Quote: OgnennyiKotik
      After saturation of the F-35 and the appearance of the pre-production NGAD.


      even tailless, will uvt or ailerons and other squiggles drive or fuel? )
    2. Sanichsan
      Sanichsan 14 May 2021 14: 59
      0
      Quote: OgnennyiKotik
      The F-22s will naturally be written off in the 30s, they are a suitcase without a handle.

      Yes? exactly? and in the article over there the Americans say that they are modernizing and when they will write off it is unknown ...
  • cosmonaut
    cosmonaut 13 May 2021 18: 38
    +1
    well, yes, I immediately believed it) .... as they say with the tongue, waggle, do not roll bags
  • Ryaruav
    Ryaruav 13 May 2021 18: 41
    +1
    since when did the a-10 become a fighter, probably they meant tactical aviation
  • Mouse
    Mouse 13 May 2021 19: 03
    +3
    "The final decision on which aircraft will remain in the list of used aircraft will be made in 8 years." ...

    The dualistic principle of the use of agricultural tools on the hydrosurface ..... translation-
    Pitchfork on the water wrote ...
  • bk316
    bk316 13 May 2021 19: 13
    -4
    It's good. Degradation of the enemy is always good.
    The F-22 was the only fifth generation aircraft in the United States.
    Back to 4+ and 5- good.

    But since this is clearly due to economic reasons, we should think about how many 5th generation aircraft we need when there is a serial production of 4 ++.
    1. Genry
      Genry 13 May 2021 19: 32
      +4
      Quote: bk316
      It's good. Degradation of the enemy is always good.

      Who told you about degradation?
      The future will not be built on modern concepts of aviation.
      For strike functions deep in the enemy rear, which is better: an F-22/35 or a cruise missile?
      For reconnaissance operations: UAV or ....?
      To destroy ground targets ...?

      Everything is heading towards the disappearance of manned combat aircraft.
  • Anachoret
    Anachoret 13 May 2021 20: 20
    +1
    Plans for the 30th year - it is understandable, the less mess and re-grading, the easier the service. Although, it's not clear why a10 is here.
    We, too, would not hurt to thin out the re-grading, but this is a long-term prospect.
  • Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 13 May 2021 21: 03
    -2
    I immediately remembered from Zhvanetsky: "How is that? What is it? - Indeed, what is it? How is it?"
    Super-duper ichtrebitel f-22 in the trash heap? So there is a place for a fu-35 booked. And the last good planes - f-15, a-10, f / a-18 - are left in the ranks and do not moan about "outdated aircraft of the past generation." Our liberals have mourning laughing
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 13 May 2021 21: 27
      +9
      The core of the Air Force will be the F-35, as planned 10 years ago.
      And the F-22 and F-15 will be gradually replaced by NGAD.
    2. 3danimal
      3danimal 14 May 2021 03: 50
      -5
      place for fu-35 booked

      The F-35 is much better than the F-18: in terms of range, combat load, maneuverability.
      I'm not talking about stealth and one of the best airborne radars in the world.
  • Avior
    Avior 13 May 2021 22: 30
    0
    it is clear that restoring production of the F-22 will be expensive and pointless - the Americans are already preparing a new aircraft.
    The A-10 will die off by itself after the complete transition of strike aircraft to guided munitions, plus the UAV fleet is growing before our very eyes.
    1. Adimius38
      Adimius38 13 May 2021 22: 53
      +3
      quite rightly why would they need a 90th plane if they are preparing a 6th generation fighter. And to maintain the pants, the upgraded F-15 in conjunction with the F-35 is enough.
  • AC130 Ganship
    AC130 Ganship 13 May 2021 22: 46
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    F15 - development of the 70s. And the F22 is 80x. The F22 has long had problems that have not been resolved due to the price of the issue. Therefore, after the delivered <200 pieces, they have not been ordered for more than 10 years. By 2030, amers will already be producing a 6th generation fighter with might and main. Work is currently underway on it. By that time, the A10 will definitely be removed. They have already been trying to remove them for the last 10-15 years. There is really nothing to replace it with. The A12 program was closed in the early 2000s.
    The F15 is still flying - updated. The ones the Pentagon is buying right now
    1. 3danimal
      3danimal 14 May 2021 03: 45
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      F15 - development of the 70s. A F22 - 80x

      I will specify:
      F-15 development began in 1962, completed in 1972, F-22 - the program started in 1981, completed in the early 1990s.
    2. ZAV69
      ZAV69 14 May 2021 09: 16
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      Quote: AC130 Ganship
      By 2030, amers will already be producing a 6th generation fighter

      It's good if they roll out at least one flight prototype by 2030.
  • Adimius38
    Adimius38 13 May 2021 22: 47
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    what to worry about them if their economy is figuratively speaking Elephant and our ant. They can order and produce these fighters by the hundreds. The orders that Boeing receives were never dreamed of by all Russian aircraft manufacturers taken together. You will not think there will be an F-22 and this does not mean that it will be cut into pots, they are now riveting other fighters as much as they need and even with a margin
    1. 3danimal
      3danimal 14 May 2021 03: 46
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      “Do you know what their national debt is? They will fall apart tomorrow! "
      (Khazin and ko) smile
      1. Adimius38
        Adimius38 14 May 2021 05: 47
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        bullshit. they have the whole world in their pockets and the entire world economy operates according to American rules. They will not fall apart tomorrow or after tomorrow.
        1. Lech from Android.
          Lech from Android. 14 May 2021 05: 50
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          Nonsense ... will fall apart ... there is nothing eternal in the world ... soap bubbles cannot fly indefinitely.
          1. 3danimal
            3danimal 14 May 2021 07: 00
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            A bubble is when you cannot service the national debt.
            When out of 3500 billion of the budget 200-300 is spent on payments, there are no problems. Although these payments are the size of our modest Russian budget.
            The second important point: 3/4 of this debt is to the federal reserve system, will always agree.
            About income:
            Do you watch Hollywood movies? Are you using a smartphone with a Qualcomm / Apple processor and Android / IOS OS, a PC / laptop with a processor / video card developed by US companies? Are you buying a Cola for cognac?
            Thus, you support their economy. It's simple.
            1. Adimius38
              Adimius38 14 May 2021 17: 08
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              good yes it is difficult to explain to those who have - (they will fall apart tomorrow) laughing