The pistol that killed Archduke Franz Ferdinand

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"Browning" 1910. Photo by the author

Weapon It wasn't just Bonnie and Clyde that killed Browning. It was Browning who invented the pistol, with the shots from which, in fact, the First World War began ...

“In the Belgian Browning, the bolt has no grip on the
barrel, but while it is under the pressure of powder gases, and then by inertia
together with the sleeve will begin to move back, the bullet will have time to leave the barrel ... "
(V. L. Kiselev "Thieves in the House")

Weapons and firms. It's always nice to talk about the weapon that you, at least, held in your hands. So I was recently lucky to hold one completely unique pistol in my hands: the Browning M1910, noted for the fact that it was from it that the terrorist Gavril Princip shot at the Archduke Franz Ferdinand, which ultimately became the reason for the First World War. That is, of course, not this particular pistol. But ... this type. So I could well imagine its application and features of use.



However, this was not the first pistol of a famous gunsmith. Therefore, it is worth starting the story about his pistols from the very beginning. Namely, since 1895, when John Moses Browning decided to design, in addition to guns, a self-loading pistol. And as he decided, he did so!

The pistol that killed Archduke Franz Ferdinand
Diagram of J. Browning's pistol under US patent dated April 20, 1897. As you can see, the pistol was very unusual. The barrel was located very low, and above it was a lever that leans back by the pressure of gases coming from the barrel and pushes the bolt behind the barrel. It is probably good that this pistol remained in the project. Because because of this jumping lever in front of the shooter's eyes, it would most likely not be very comfortable to shoot from it.

Browning demonstrated the first prototype of his self-loading pistol to Colt's Patent Firearms on July 3, 1895.

Its automation was unusual for that time and worked according to the scheme of removing part of the powder gases from the barrel. It was planned to use .38 caliber cartridges (9 mm). However, in January 1896, Browning proposed a new version of the pistol design, with automation operating on the principle of using the recoil energy of a free breechblock, which locked the barrel only due to the force of the return spring and the mass of the bolt, successfully combined with the barrel casing.

This version became the first pistol in which the bolt and barrel casing were a single piece. This pistol used relatively low-power .32 (7,65 mm) cartridges. However, the Colt company required a military order from the US government, and the army and the fleet - powerful weapon with high shooting efficiency. And this pistol seemed rather weak to them.

In just one year, 1896, Browning managed to create two more variants of a self-loading pistol for the company's requirements. The automatics of both worked by using the recoil force with a short stroke of the barrel, which in the first moments of the shot was coupled with the shutter-casing. In one of the options, the barrel was locked by lowering it, and in the other - by turning. But in the end, a pistol with locking with a descending barrel was adopted into production.


Scheme of J. Browning's pistol under the US patent also dated April 20, 1897, in which locking was carried out by turning the barrel

But the design with a free shutter also did not remain unclaimed.

This pistol interested the Belgian arms company Fabrique Nationale d'Armes de Guerre (National Military Weapons Factory) in Erstal. At the end of the 17th century, this enterprise was one of the most advanced in Europe, so it was very easy to repeat someone's interesting design. It was important to find the target audience for sales. But here the Belgians, apparently, calculated everything in advance. Because already on July 1897, 7,65, they signed a contract with Browning for the production of his 1900 mm self-loading pistol, which was named FN Browning model XNUMX.


Patent March 21, 1899

Moreover, Browning improved the original design of the pistol and received a Swiss patent No. 16896 dated April 29, 1898 for it. And on March 21, 1899, he already received an American patent No. 621747. The firing mechanism underwent the greatest changes: instead of the trigger, a drummer was installed. Moreover, the return spring also simultaneously performed the function of the mainspring, acting on the drummer using a special lever. However, due to the gradual weakening, such a system did not become widespread.


Prototype of the FN 1899 pistol, predecessor of the M1900 model. It has a slightly longer handle and an original magazine with six holes (the second version with larger holes). The hole for the extraction of the sleeves is located in a place that is somewhat unusual for modern models. Rectangular "box" above the trigger guard - bolt casing guides.


And this is how this pistol looked during cocking.

The FN 1900 was produced from 1899 to 1912. And it was the first pistol to use 7,65mm ammunition (ammunition known in the United States as .32).

The 1900 model was adopted by the Belgian army in March 1900, and then in many other armies and the police. It was a great commercial success. So, from 1899 to 1910, more than 725 copies of pistols of this model were produced.


This is how he looked


And here it is in a luxurious design with engraving!

The pistol was handy. Firstly, the weight is only 625 grams without cartridges. Secondly, seven rounds instead of six in most revolvers of the time. Well, and of course, the sizes that made it easy to carry it in a jacket pocket.


Advertising of the first "Browning" in Russia


Brand instructions for the user

The 1903 FN pistol of the year was the result of a request from the military for a powerful army pistol chambered for 9 mm (9x20 mm SR Browning Long) cartridges. The pistol turned out to be larger and heavier (weight without cartridges 930 g), but the magazine also had 7 rounds.


Patent December 22, 1903

The M1903 was the second pistol in the FN line. It was developed by John Moses Browning in 1902 and patented in 1903. It was also known as Browning No. 2 and was heavily inspired by the old FN M1900. At the same time, Browning for the Colt company finalized the 1900 model, which in the States was produced under the name "Colt M1903 pocket pistol" chambered for .32ACP (7,65 mm).


FN 1903 Pistol

Both firms produced this pistol until 1930.

In Europe, the FN M1903 became the favorite pistol of the police and was adopted by the armies of Germany, Turkey, and Sweden. It was also produced under license in Sweden by Husqvarna Vapenfabriks from 1917 to 1942 under the name 9mm M / 1907. In the United States, the Colt M1903 has become a popular civil defense weapon, as well as among high-ranking officers and generals. FN produced just under 60 M000 pistols as standard self-defense weapons. And 1903 units were produced by Husqvarna.

The success of previous models of pistols pushed Browning to the idea of ​​a "lady's pistol". This is how portable models of 1906 appeared chambered for 6,35 mm caliber, only 114 mm long and weighing 350 grams. The pistol had a six-round magazine. Automation - free shutter. Until 1940, more than 4 copies were produced, which were then replaced by the Baby model.


Pistol 1906


A suede holster with an elegant "ladies'" fastener, like a reticule, was produced for it.


In which he looked like this ...

Another four years passed. And Browning again pleased his fans with a very good pistol FN 1910. The pistol was produced in two versions: chambered for 7,65 mm and 9 mm. The store, as before, was designed for seven rounds, but then many considered a large capacity for a pistol to be excessive. It was also adopted by the police forces of many states and was a significant commercial success.


And now personal impressions. This is how the 1910 Browning is in the hand. Photo by the author


My hand is rather narrow, not some sort of coffin, but despite this, the handle turned out to be smaller than the palm. And although it is quite convenient to hold the pistol, the designer could well have made it longer, by the way, then two more cartridges would fit into it.


Moreover, all this was obvious at that time, as evidenced by this picture on the cover of the manual for the Browning pistol in 1910.

History I must remind us that it was with this pistol that Gavrilo Princip killed Archduke Ferdinand and his wife in Sarajevo, which was the reason for the outbreak of the First World War. The pistol was sold to a gunsmith in Ostend, who, in turn, probably sold it to the Serbian terrorist organization Black Hand.


Arranged pistol was nowhere simpler. Here's how many details he understood ...


The pistol had two fuses at once, a lever and a handle, which was wrung out when the pistol grip was gripped. Photo by the author


Sleeve ejection window with markings. Photo by the author

And then this pistol, which appeared in the court as evidence, was simply lost.

Lost, but was found in Austria in 2004, 90 years after the fatal shots fired from it. It just so happened that in October 1914, after the trial of the conspirators, the 1910 Browning with serial number 19074 was handed over to the Jesuit priest Anton Pantigam, the confessor of Franz Ferdinand, who decided to organize his museum. But then the war began. Then the empire itself collapsed. And in 1926 the priest died. And the gun hit the Jesuit community. And it was she who donated it to the state.

Princip's Browning is now on display at the Vienna Museum of Military History.


Shop for the gun. Photo by the author


Magazine slot in the handle. Photo by the author

By the way, the big drawback of the pistol was the magazine latch at the end of the handle. Of course, such an attachment was absolute, from the point of view of reliability. But to me personally, the latch seemed very tough. That is, it is very difficult to squeeze it out and remove the store. Reloading my copy would not be easy at all, it would have to be tried.


The sighting devices didn't like it either. You have to look for them with your eyes. But on the other hand, the designer took care of making anti-glare cutting on the recess for the front sight and the aiming bar. Photo by the author

In general, the pistol left an ambiguous impression: some kind of imperfection in terms of ergonomics and design, although outwardly - yes, it looks very elegant.


And, of course, there were also such elegant samples with mother-of-pearl handles ...

PS


All other photographs, except copyright ones, were provided by Alain Daubresse.

To be continued ...
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  1. +16
    13 June 2021 04: 53
    I remember that the soldier Schweik used to say that "any kind of pistol they won't kill the Archduke. They probably bought some special pistol for the Archduke." wink
    1. +9
      13 June 2021 05: 23
      Quote: Xlor
      special pistol

      Horror what the fastidious dukes have gone to!
      1. +12
        13 June 2021 06: 46
        The pistol that killed Archduke Franz Ferdinand

        Curiously, after these events in the United States there was an advertising campaign "Buy the Killer of Kings" or then the norms of ethics of morality still limited the desire for profit?
    2. +23
      13 June 2021 08: 19
      - This is done extremely quickly, Mrs. Müllerova. Scary fast. For such a case, I would buy myself a Browning: it looks like a toy, and from it you can shoot twenty archdukes in no time, even if they are skinny or fat.
      1. +3
        13 June 2021 14: 51
        Thickness is better, more likely to hit.
      2. +8
        13 June 2021 15: 50
        Quote: SERGE ant
        This is done extremely quickly, Ms. Mullerova. Scary fast. For such a case, I would buy myself a Browning: it looks like a toy, and from it you can shoot twenty archdukes in no time, even if they are skinny or fat.

        And when I say "Belgian Browning" I remember "Black Triangle".
        The incident is over, the cannons are silent, the waitresses are powdering their noses, the soldiers are playing preference. Life is beautiful, but gonorrhea is disgusting ... What kind of Browning do you have, Comrade Kosachevsky?

        “Belgian,” I said, stunned by the waterfall of words.

        Ritus broke into a smile.

        - How lovely! The true weapon of a revolutionary. With such a Browning, I shot at the seventeenth policemen. Like partridges, mi sorry. Seven bullets - seven policemen. Beautiful, but lead to the soul. I have a gentle soul, Comrade Kosachevsky. Until now, nightmares torment at night: blood, corpses, groans ... Yes, human life, even the life of a lousy policeman, is the greatest value, and you and I were created not for shooting, but for flying. You cannot kill your own kind with impunity, even from the Belgian Browning - psychosis, neurosis, insomnia ... By the way, do you have a friend of a psychiatrist?

        In the film, this scene was spoiled ...
  2. +18
    13 June 2021 05: 37
    Vyacheslav, thank you, I made you happy again!
    Friends, good morning everyone! smile
    It is probably good that this pistol remained in the project. Because because of this jumping lever in front of the shooter's eyes, it most likely would not be very comfortable to shoot from it.

    Why, in the "Eight" the shutter jumps even steeper, but it does not cause any discomfort.

    Browning 1900 from the storehouse of the State Historical Museum.
    1. +14
      13 June 2021 05: 55
      I join Uncle Kostya!
      The holster made of suede, and even with latches like a grandmother's wallet, delighted from the heart and amused to tears !!!
      It is necessary for modern purse designers to pass by such a masterpiece. Sell ​​these along with lighter pistols. I think they will go with a bang !!!
      Good day!
      1. +2
        13 June 2021 12: 03
        This is as an addition
        despite this, the grip was smaller than the palm.
        And if it were bigger, then he would not be included in the reticule :))
      2. +1
        19 June 2021 22: 18
        At the time of tsarist Russia, they also invented some kind of pistol, but I can't remember the name of this weapon. Who can tell you what it was called?
    2. +12
      13 June 2021 07: 03
      Quote: Sea Cat
      Why, in the "Eight" the shutter jumps even steeper, but it does not cause any discomfort.


      I am Uncle Kostya fired from a rifle with a bolt mechanism like Parabellum 08. This is something over there. "Hair stands on end" when "some garbage" rises in front of the nose. The pistol is simpler, although a habit is possible. There is a pneumatic replica 08 in the collection.
      However, this is the trouble with all pistols with a free slide. For the first time, the girls, out of habit, flog their hands with the shutter of a harmless PM. However, this can be solved simply. At my office, I replaced the standard one with a PMGeshka. In addition to the magazine reset button, she has an increased influx at the top of the grip. A trifle, but handy when doing speed exercises.
      1. +8
        13 June 2021 07: 08
        Hello Vladislav! hi
        And what kind of a rifle with such a bolt, I saw something, but it's still interesting, a rather rare design of a bolt for a screw. Of course, I never had the chance to shoot with one like this.
        1. +10
          13 June 2021 07: 27
          An Italian replica to the military (this is about the first world) self-loading Luger M1908 rifle chambered for a Mauser rifle. Alas, I don't remember the model and the company. I saw it at my acquaintances - acquaintances at the training ground. Aroused the interest of literally everyone present. Everyone asked to shoot, and I modestly sat down! The owner waved his hand and gave the go-ahead. Then, as the youngest, I went to fetch a bottle of Hennessy to the owner. This is the least we could do - the cartridges were all the same to him. Although the attention of the "guru" who surrounded me pleased him.
          1. +12
            13 June 2021 07: 36


            Found photos.
            Moreover, while searching for photos, I fell into the classic delusion of confusing parabellum with a luger!
            1. +6
              13 June 2021 10: 39
              Looks elegant! However, the Italians have it in their blood)
          2. +9
            13 June 2021 07: 42
            Lucky, I envy with light envy. smile drinks
          3. -1
            1 July 2021 08: 50
            Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
            An Italian replica to the military (this is about the first world) self-loading Luger M1908 rifle chambered for a Mauser rifle. Alas, I don't remember the model and the company. I saw it at my acquaintances - acquaintances at the training ground.

            How can you remember something that does not exist in nature? Italians do not make replicas of such weapons, their strong point is single-shot and not self-loading (magazine weapons), they stamp replicas of revolvers, Winchesters, muskets, etc. p / a was never released due to too much complexity for small firms. Actually, the M1906 rifles themselves were released hell and no shit.
            1. 0
              2 July 2021 22: 12
              Rzhu I can’t, someone gave me a minus for the truth, but the dreamer "fired" from a non-existent weapon was given as many as 10 pluses laughing laughing
        2. +12
          13 June 2021 08: 20
          And what a rifle with such a bolt

          Luger 1906 semiauto rifle in 8x57mm

          Experienced rifle, made only a few pieces.
          The Japanese tried to create a similar rifle. I have not heard of the Italians.

          This is a rifle from the Japanese company Nippon Special Steel.
          More details - https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/04/27/hope-youre-not-sick-toggles-just-yet-look-japanese-toggle-action-rifles/
          1. +1
            1 July 2021 08: 55
            In this case, this is not Luger, this is Pederson T1 - Garand's competitor in the competition for self-loading for the US Army, the Japanese in the 30s released a small batch of such rifles.
            1. +1
              1 July 2021 09: 25
              I agree, I inserted the wrong photo.
    3. +10
      13 June 2021 07: 41
      Hmm, Konstantin ... As I understand it, you have a collection of images and additions to any article on the shooter. laughing
      I join the words of gratitude to Vyacheslav Olegovich!
      I also had a chance to hold the Browning in my hands once. But then it was a youthful delight and I didn't even think about ergonomics!
  3. +7
    13 June 2021 06: 00
    It is interesting to trace the improvement of the Browning scheme of the 1910 model, first to the Walter PP of 1929 and then to the Makarov pistol of 1948.



    All three pistols became widespread and found their place.
    But the Browning model against the background of the subsequent ones, purely outwardly, looks like an artifact of craftsmen from an underground workshop for the handicraft of weapons against the background of Walter's perfect forms, and then Makarov, chambered for a more powerful 9 * 18 cartridge.
    1. +10
      13 June 2021 06: 57
      Hello, Sergey. hi
      I would not compare these designs, Walter PP-PPK is a completely original system, which was subsequently copied by all and sundry, incl. and Makarov. With regard to the mass character of the same PM, in comparison with the same Browning and Walter, which really spread all over the world, this is impossible to say. Makar was produced under license in only the countries of the Warsaw bloc - the German Democratic Republic and Bulgaria, without a license in China and in an incomprehensible way in Vietnam. That's it, no one else copied it as unnecessary.
      By the way, Walter PP-PPK was and is being produced for cartridges 9x17 (Kurz) and 9x18 (Ultra).
      1. +8
        13 June 2021 07: 10
        good afternoon
        I meant blowback pistols

        USM and other subtleties were different, of course
      2. 0
        4 July 2021 19: 13
        Quote: Sea Cat
        By the way, Walter PP-PPK was and is being produced for cartridges 9x17 (Kurz) and 9x18 (Ultra).

        Well, let's figure it out who produced copies of the PP / PPK - and only the French and Hungarians made a large amount of it, the same Chinese made a certain amount (although very quickly the release of Type 52 copies was curtailed, and in the 60s the Type 64 pistol was already released, albeit developed on the basis of the PPK but still not a copy) and the Turks did what amount for their special services. In terms of the total number of manufactured pistols, PP / PPK and their derivatives with PM were not even close.
        1. 0
          4 July 2021 19: 21
          PP and PPK have never been adopted by armies in any country, and the comparison with the PM, which has been in service with one of the largest armies in the world for more than half a century (I will not say anything about the police), is completely incorrect. You still remember about the "three-line", there are so many of them stamped that they are still lying around in warehouses.
          1. 0
            4 July 2021 19: 53
            Quote: Sea Cat
            PP and PPK have never been adopted by the armies in any country,

            Never say never - the PP since the mid-30s was in service with the Wehrmacht and the Luftwaffe, in the Wehrmacht mainly as a weapon of staff and non-combat officers, in the Luftwaffe, including among the flight personnel, the PPK was from about the same period in service with senior officers of the Luftwaffe, Wehrmacht and Kriegsmarine, not to mention the SD. In total, Walter produced about 200 PP and 000 PPK for HWaA orders. The same is true for other countries, and the PP was in service even in countries that had never produced it - for example, in the British Air Force, the Walters PP were in service even in the mid-150s. Here is the pilot Hariera going on a combat mission.
            1. 0
              4 July 2021 20: 06
              When they talk about arming the army, they mean army pistols, not police crackers, completely useless in real combat. As for the Air Force and Navy of the Reich, police and other auxiliary units, they were armed with personal weapons on a leftover basis, tk. the pistol could not be the main weapon of a submariner, pilot or guard in a concentration camp. It was full of foreign systems, collected from all the conquered countries of Europe.
              And this pilot, having extra money, could well buy himself this Walter in the store, no one forbade him.
          2. 0
            4 July 2021 20: 01
            Quote: Sea Cat
            You still remember about the "three-line", there are so many of them stamped that they are still lying around in warehouses.

            Are you sure about that?
            By the way, the PM is not a copy of Walter PP or PPK anyone who has tweaked these samples knows about it, there are solutions from Walter in the PM, but in fact it is only disassembly with a movable bracket, everything else was up to Walter, and PP / PPK is the same compilation of successful solutions, with this PM is much safer and more convenient to use than PPK or PP. Of the service pistols of the 20th century, designed for constant wearing, the PM is undoubtedly the best in terms of balance of performance and reliability.
            1. 0
              4 July 2021 20: 37
              Are you sure about that?

              I know it.
              By the nature of my activity, I dealt with all these systems, and not only with them - study, disassembly, assembly, shooting. And all this has been said more than once or twice, including here, at VO, so I just don't want to pound water in a mortar, and it's not interesting either.
              You have the right to have your own opinion, this is your business, I have my own opinion, which is different from yours, and we have nothing to share. hi
              1. 0
                4 July 2021 21: 35
                Quote: Sea Cat
                By the nature of my activity, I dealt with all these systems, and not only with them - study, disassembly, assembly, shooting.

                To be honest, I doubt it, if only because firstly I remember your early posts, and secondly, this is
                Quote: Sea Cat
                When they talk about arming the army, they mean army pistols, not police crackers,

                Not a single person in the topic would ever write, this is just typical for Internet experts. If only because the pistol of a soldier leading a ground battle is precisely the weapon of the last chance and nothing more, and the attitude to it is appropriate, even the army specialists - the construction brigades were sneering here just now - for five years they worked out the transition from long to short, but for all trips to Saratov no one needed it. The touch PM is just more of an army pistol - not heavy and not bulky, but with sufficient energy.
                1. 0
                  4 July 2021 21: 41
                  To be honest, I doubt

                  So it is for health.
                  ... this is exactly what Internet experts do.

                  And I have to be sure of your professionalism, why on earth?
                  1. 0
                    4 July 2021 22: 28
                    And I'm not trying to prove something to you, I'm just judging by my own experience and knowledge, and by your early posts.
                    1. +1
                      4 July 2021 23: 52
                      I have not read your early posts, but in today's you amused me pretty much:
                      ... construction brigades here just scoffed - for five years they worked out the transition from long to short, but for all trips to Saratov

                      As far as I remember, construction brigades were called student brigades that went somewhere on a coven, and if they had to "work out the transition" for something, it was from a bayonet to a shovel.
                      And the question is: is there no way in Saratov nowadays? Or is it some kind of code dedicated only to construction brigades?
                      1. 0
                        5 July 2021 11: 47
                        What's funny? In my opinion, these names have long been widely used not only by military personnel, and even people who are quite far from the topic and know perfectly well what they are talking about. SSO-shnikov have long been called "students" or "construction brigades" - the abbreviation is the same. Saratov has already been called Syria for a long time, in invincible and legendary this is a long-established concept, like Khmeinim itself, etc.
                      2. 0
                        5 July 2021 13: 29
                        It is absolutely not necessary to know such slang phrases, you still blame me for not knowing the avian language of teenagers, it's funny, by God.
                        Now about the topic, if you are in it, you can surely be able to answer what kind of institution is located on the Kropotkinskaya embankment in Moscow.
                      3. +1
                        8 July 2021 12: 20
                        Is this some kind of secret embankment? In Moscow there is no such thing, if you are talking about the building of the Moscow region - according to our bird's eye "palace of fools", then it is located on the Frunzenskaya embankment.
                      4. 0
                        8 July 2021 13: 37
                        It would be strange to expect something different from a descendant of the limiters, you do not know the history of the capital, nothing surprising. But what aplomb! laughing
                        In 1924, the Prechistenskaya embankment, united with the embankment of the Cathedral of Christ the Savior, was renamed into Kropotkinskaya, in honor of P.A. Kropotkin. The historic name of the embankment was restored in 1992.

                        And, if only fools were sitting in the Ministry of Defense, we would now feed not our own army, but the occupation army.
                        Take care of your stomach, "Kolyaizurengoya", this is probably the main component of your organon. hi
                        What a melancholy! The fool is cherished, the fool is carefully nurtured, the fool is fertilized, and there is no end in sight ... it has become the norm, a little more - and it will become an ideal ...
                        (S. Strugatsky "Predatory things of the century")
                      5. 0
                        19 July 2021 08: 45
                        Hey comrade, take it easy on the bends, you are our native Muscovite. How does your knowledge of history, gleaned from Wikipedia, exclude the fact that there is no Kropotkinskaya embankment in Moscow? As well as the fact that the building of the Moscow region is located on Frunzenskaya?
                        Quote: Sea Cat
                        Take care of your stomach, "Kolyaizurengoya", this is probably the main component of your organon.

                        What a funny "specialist" you are talking nonsense about weapons, you are confused in addresses-passwords-attendance - but the others simply cannot understand all your depth because they are simply stupid and do not know anything. Can you tell me where in what position you served? and then you look and common acquaintances will be found, fortunately in the system of the army RAV there are some comrades and retirees and still employees.
                      6. 0
                        19 July 2021 14: 51
                        ... but the others simply cannot understand all your depth because they are just stupid and do not know anything.

                        Well, now everything is clear. There was one, like you, a legendary person under the nickname "Carbine", he, like you, considered everyone around him more stupid than himself, the one and only, so a personal bed was constantly reserved for him in the Yellow House, and you, obviously, and the ward is separate. laughing
                      7. 0
                        21 July 2021 22: 02
                        Everything? is the evening of humor over? My friend Military Review has never been distinguished by a large number of shooters, you can go to a specialized site - I have the same nickname on the same gun, and you can participate in the discussion of iron with those who really communicate with it and own it.
                      8. 0
                        21 July 2021 22: 15
                        I am not your friend and not a friend, poke your homies-specialists on the "hanza", as for humor, because you lack this feeling, I think the conversation is meaningless and boring.
                      9. 0
                        22 July 2021 15: 46
                        laughing laughing laughing what a technical drain, however wink
                      10. 0
                        22 July 2021 19: 28
                        Where are you usually dumped? And how are you used to it? Yes
    2. +2
      13 June 2021 15: 27
      Quote: Avior
      But the Browning model, against the background of the subsequent ones, purely outwardly looks like an artifact of craftsmen from an underground workshop.

      ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
  4. +12
    13 June 2021 06: 28
    18 rubles 50 kopecks ... cheap howeverwhat ... in tsarist Russia one could freely buy a pistol ... oh, those days are gone.
    1. +2
      13 June 2021 06: 43
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      18 rubles 50 kopecks ... cheap howeverwhat ... in tsarist Russia one could freely buy a pistol ... oh, those days are gone.

      Once again, I notice that for a harmless comment Alexei is given a "minus"! Interestingly, this rat reads the text or just sculpts gifts, focusing on the nickname?
      1. +8
        13 June 2021 07: 01
        Never mind the cons ... smile the most important thing is to see competent comments and articles from respected members of the forum ... I learn a lot of useful things from them, for this I love this forum hi.
      2. +5
        13 June 2021 07: 12
        Rats do not know how to read, they have everything on the rat instinct, therefore they are rats.
        1. +6
          13 June 2021 08: 08
          By the way, in astrology, people born in the years of the Monkey, Pig and Rat are considered the most intelligent.
          1. +6
            13 June 2021 08: 12
            So it is in astrology. smile
        2. +5
          13 June 2021 08: 56
          But tenacious. Why is protein better? By the fact that the tail is fluffy?
          1. +7
            13 June 2021 09: 04
            She is sipatish. smile
            1. +7
              13 June 2021 09: 13
              Exactly. Takes with charm.
              It does not prevent her from destroying the nests.
              1. +8
                13 June 2021 09: 22
                And she has something to do with it? All claims to the Creator. request
                1. +5
                  13 June 2021 11: 40
                  She just wants to eat. Nothing personal.
                  1. +3
                    13 June 2021 13: 02
                    "You are only to blame for the fact that I want to eat" (c)
                    1. +2
                      13 June 2021 13: 15
                      I have this drawing on my cup at work.
                      1. +2
                        13 June 2021 13: 39
                        Mine had a cat, or rather a cup, it, in general, is still there, I glued it together, but you can't drink from it, it still leaks.
              2. +3
                13 June 2021 12: 51
                And spread the rabies virus.
                1. +4
                  13 June 2021 12: 59
                  Of course, there is no other animal besides the dog. I understand you, because I love my cat too. fellow
                  1. +6
                    13 June 2021 13: 21
                    Of course, there is no other animal besides the dog.
                    Why not? There are also cute animals, owls.
                    1. +3
                      13 June 2021 13: 44
                      Lucky and I do not know any Natasha and do not want to know. smile
                      And it is better not to appear any extraneous living creatures in our garden.
                      1. +4
                        13 June 2021 14: 26
                        Ignorance of Natasha does not exempt from responsibility.
                      2. +3
                        13 June 2021 14: 30
                        We do not intend to bring up other people's spinogryzov! Deal with your Natasha there yourself. stop
                      3. +5
                        13 June 2021 14: 45
                        Just about, to me, up to 10 years old, too, they all promised a dog ... crying
                        On the other hand:
                        "I was walking around the yard. I see the children are playing in the sandbox. I handed out sweets. Maybe mine? ..." (C)
                      4. +3
                        13 June 2021 15: 37
                        You reminded me of an old anecdote about the ten commandments of a modern man, I will not quote them, it’s not hard to guess, but one of them is this one: "... Maybe mine? ..."
          2. +3
            13 June 2021 15: 53
            She has a good image maker
            There is a rat and a hamster. The first is all thin, sad, and the second is fat and contented. The rat asks the Hamster: - Why does everyone love you, they keep you at home, the food is delicious, although we are both rodents? We differ only in the length of the tail and the color of the coat! The hamster answers: - It's not the length of the tail or the coat. The main thing is to choose a smart image maker!

            smile
            1. +1
              13 June 2021 19: 18
              This version has already been told.
              And A.S. Pushkin was recruited.
      3. +2
        13 June 2021 12: 04
        Once again, I notice that for a harmless comment Alexei is given a "minus"! Interestingly, this rat reads the text or just sculpts gifts, focusing on the nickname?

        I corrected the situation as best I could wassat )))
    2. +7
      13 June 2021 07: 00
      Lyosha, hello. hi
      According to A.M. Gorky and his play "At the Bottom", then at that time the five of us could get drunk to death by 50 kopecks. laughing It was such a shitty life. drinks
      1. +7
        13 June 2021 07: 13
        Quote: Sea Cat
        Lyosha, hello. hi
        According to A.M. Gorky and his play "At the Bottom", then at that time the five of us could get drunk to death by 50 kopecks. laughing It was such a shitty life. drinks

        By the way. Until the middle of the century before last (I can lie - not a numismatist), a penny was not the smallest coin of the Russian Empire.


        Half and money! The money seems to be from the Ural coinage !!! Again I can be wrong - I'm not a numismatist. recourse
        1. +6
          13 June 2021 07: 49
          If I am not mistaken, when I was watching the series "Peaky Blinders", I became interested in the salaries of workers at that time. There were materials on the Internet, so there was a layout for salary in Russia, England and the USA. How much they received on average and what they could buy.
          It turned out that it seemed to the Russian hard worker (as always!) The least of all - something about 20 rubles.
          Then came the British, and then the Americans.
          But it was expensive for ours to rent housing. Something about five rubles. The rest was spent on food (as for me, enough for normal). But for surpluses such as walking, watches, clothes, shoes .... I had to save already.
          So the gun cost almost a worker's salary.
          1. +3
            13 June 2021 08: 01
            Oh Igor kryska, and I have not been able to mark you with a "gift" !!!

            I remember exactly that janitors in the capital earned 40 rubles!
            1. +2
              13 June 2021 08: 05
              I remember exactly that janitors in the capital earned 40 rubles
              You are so.,. ancient?!!! laughing
              I hope not to be offended by the joke.
              1. +1
                13 June 2021 08: 10
                There is a good program Vivovatenko "Vivat history" on the radio "Moscow speaking". I listen to podcasts at my leisure.
            2. +1
              13 June 2021 08: 08
              Do not pay attention - for someone I am a rat, but for some rat I am a piece of cheese)))
              This is all not normal, but the site is military, but "a la ger, com a la ger ..."
            3. +6
              13 June 2021 08: 10
              So, in part, police functions were assigned to them.
              1. +5
                13 June 2021 08: 19
                Specify, colleague, to whom exactly, to the rats, or to the janitors? (joke) wink
                Street cleaners in Soviet times were assistants to the precinct.
            4. +5
              13 June 2021 11: 52
              40 rubles - this is the senior janitor, there was such
              Regular janitor -18-20 rubles
              Here on VO they discussed prices and salaries before the revolution
              https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.topwar.ru/32675-zarplaty-i-ceny-do-1917-goda.html
          2. +8
            13 June 2021 08: 03
            Yes, the salary of an unskilled worker was about 20 re.
            And it seemed to be enough.
            But in those days, the ratio of prices was different from the current ones, so large sums could be spent on boots or winter clothes, much larger than now.
            In addition, there was a problem of responsibility - the fine for shooting in the wrong place could reach 500 rubles - an unbearable amount for a worker at that time
          3. +7
            13 June 2021 08: 08
            Quote: Leader of the Redskins
            It turned out that it seemed to the Russian hard worker (as always!) The least of all - something about 20 rubles.
            Then came the British, and then the Americans.

            20 rubles is 68 thousand rubles with the gold content of the then ruble 0,774 g, and the current cost of gold is 4400 rubles per gram. This is the current average Russian salary. But this, of course, is several times less than the American and British salaries of 400-500 thousand rubles.
          4. +8
            13 June 2021 08: 27
            So the gun cost almost a worker's salary.

            Igor hi , why does a worker need a gun? The whole world knows what exactly is the weapon of the proletariat. Free and effective ... but only sometimes, really ... and not against a machine gun. laughing
            1. +6
              13 June 2021 08: 38
              Here with N.E.Bauman without a pistol sorted out - so what are the consequences.
              1. +11
                13 June 2021 09: 02
                Hello, Sergey. hi
                No, Bauman was killed not with a brick, but with a cut of a water pipe, and, as it turned out, he was put to rest by a simple worker. By the way, Bauman had a "Nagant" and he shot at this guy, but either he didn't hit, or he hit the wrong one. Hence the conclusion - it is not enough to have a barrel on your pocket, you also need to be able to shoot from it.
                1. +9
                  13 June 2021 09: 12
                  Hi Constantine!

                  Sure. Almost a textbook example that a revolver in your pocket is not a panacea.
                  1. +8
                    13 June 2021 09: 43
                    We need a good gunner. laughing soldier
          5. +2
            13 June 2021 12: 53
            the series "Peaky Blinders"
            A credible series!
            1. +2
              13 June 2021 13: 09
              I'm waiting for what will end. They wrote, it seems, they will release the final part in one film. When that's just ...
              1. +3
                13 June 2021 13: 29
                I only watched 3 seasons. Murphy is great!
      2. +7
        13 June 2021 08: 30
        The cow cost 1,5 rubles.
        1. +4
          13 June 2021 10: 48
          Quote: shinobi

          Sinobi (Yuri)
          Today, 08: 30

          +5
          The cow cost 1,5 rubles.

          Nonsense. That is probably how much a cow cost in pre-Petrine times.
          1. +4
            13 June 2021 16: 29
            My grandfather told me that, according to his father, one could easily buy a one-year-old heifer from the Bashkirs for 2 rubles and a half, a pregnant cow for 4-5 rubles. The factory was more expensive. Therefore, livestock for slaughter for the artel was bought in the spring in the Bashkir villages (Ufa-Shegeri, Akbash, Arakaevo). Six months later, in the winter they injected. The household always had its own cow and her offspring. The bull was kept by the eldest in the family, he is also the head of the artel. He covered the cows of relatives for free, neighbors for money (50 kopecks). They let him into the herd in a muzzle made of nails, they did not keep him for more than three years. And they always bought on the side, sometimes for fifty miles in Belembai or even in Artakh. At one time, I was surprised that my grandfather said that in childhood he planted birches in artels. True, in a semi-barbaric way, they dug up in the forest and transplanted to their own plot. However, she is still called Bald !!!
          2. +1
            14 June 2021 04: 36
            Something like this, yes. With Nikolasha, 30-80 rubles, as bargaining. With an average earnings of 15-30 rubles from employees.
    3. +10
      13 June 2021 07: 34
      The salary of a skilled worker was about 30 rubles a month, a revolver for self-defense could be bought for 5.


      Pistols were more expensive
      1. +8
        13 June 2021 07: 59
        Quote: Avior
        The salary of a skilled worker was about 30 rubles a month,

        However, like a novice rural teacher and doctor.
        Great-grandfather a zhigar (coal burner) at an iron mining plant earned at the beginning of the last century 20 rubles from a share for a family. The row was artel. Given the piecework nature of the work, apparently enough. They kept horses, had a subsidiary farm. His grandfather, born in 1920, said that he began helping his father at the age of 10 and received "half a share" as a family member (peer assistants outside the family received a third of the share). Moreover, the shares were formed on the basis of the traction force and equipment. I think for 15 years the principle of shares has not changed.
        Great-great-grandfather, the manager of this plant, 160 rubles (for 1911).
        The difference is 8 times !!! Less than today.
      2. +5
        13 June 2021 08: 03
        Which is what I say. Qualified one - 30 rubles, and the usual one is less. About 20.
        The watch, it seems, cost 10 rubles.
        1. +8
          13 June 2021 08: 08
          Yes, it is impossible to apply modern ideas about the ratio of prices for goods and services to those times. The watch was then practically a luxury item.
      3. +5
        13 June 2021 08: 34
        Trading house Zimin widow and K ... smile
        Ladies' hats and bonnets loaded with a lady's pistol ... the gopniks of St. Petersburg were shocked by meeting such a lady.
    4. +3
      13 June 2021 08: 04
      Quote: Lech from Android.

      Lech from Android. (Lech from Android)
      Today, 06: 28
      NEW
      -2
      18 rubles 50 kopecks ... cheap however ... in tsarist Russia one could freely buy a pistol ... oh, those days are gone.

      The gold content of the tsarist ruble after the Witte reforms is 0,774 g. 18,5 rubles is 14,3 g of gold, at the current exchange rate of about 63 thousand rubles, not cheap at all, considering that the MP-43 double-barreled gun can be bought for 20 thousand, the semiautomatic device MR-153 can be bought for 30 thousand, and a Vepr or Saiga carbine chambered for .308 can be bought for 50 thousand.
      1. +5
        13 June 2021 11: 02
        At the same time, the salary of a skilled worker is 110 thousand rubles, an unskilled worker is about 70-75 thousand rubles in today's money at the rate of gold
        So much for tsarism :))))
        1. -1
          13 June 2021 12: 26
          Quote: Avior
          At the same time, the salary of a skilled worker is 110 thousand rubles, an unskilled worker is about 70-75 thousand rubles in today's money at the rate of gold
          So much for tsarism :))))

          The then tsarist worker is like today's office plankton, and some of the kakers have about the same salary. By the way, when you read O. Henry or Jack London, you can roughly imagine what the salary of the working class in the United States was, it was about $ 65 (130 tsarist rubles) for an unskilled worker and $ 130 (260 tsarist rubles) for a skilled worker, but it is necessary remember that then there was no trace of a 40-hour work week, the worker worked about 80 hours a week. The same thing happened in Russia, a worker in tsarist Russia worked 20 hours a month for the sake of these unfortunate 320 full-fledged tsarist rubles, and had no right to sick leave, vacation pay, or a pension. For example, in the novel "Martin Eden", which is essentially an autobiographical novel, GG worked in the laundry for 12-14 hours from Monday to Saturday, and received about $ 130 a month, this is about 850 thousand rubles for modern money, a very good salary , but the work was completely exhausting, and the person degraded. If you divide these 850 thousand by a 40-hour work week, that is, by half, you will get 425 thousand rubles, which is approximately what the average American earns a month. That is, there is no progress in the growth of REAL wages in the modern USA.
          1. -1
            13 June 2021 15: 38
            It's strange how your salary of an American is translated through rubles :)
            In addition, 130 dollars now is only 8200 rubles.
            It is believed that over the last 100 years, the dollar has depreciated about 15 times.
            That is, Martin with his hellish labor received about 2 thousand modern dollars, if he worked for 8 hours, he would receive about 1200.
            The current average salary in the USA is 4200. So the salary has grown by 3,5-4 times.
          2. 0
            19 June 2021 14: 59
            Quote: Kot_Kuzya
            By the way, when you read O. Henry or Jack London, you can roughly imagine what the salary of the working class in the United States was, it was about $ 65 (130 tsarist rubles) for an unskilled worker and $ 130 (260 tsarist rubles) for a skilled worker.

            "In those unpretentious old days, the boy could dollar and quarter a week to get a table and shelter, but they would also be enough for studies, clothes and laundry. "
            M. Twain, Tom Sawyer
            If $ 5 a month was enough for housing, food, clothing, study, laundry - it is unlikely that a little later 65 dollars were paid to unskilled laborers.
            Soldiers in their Civilian were paid 12 to 20 bucks a month
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    6. 0
      19 June 2021 14: 46
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      18 rubles 50 kopecks ... cheap howeverwhat ... in tsarist Russia one could freely buy a pistol ... oh, those days are gone.

      11 state officials, police officers and random people were killed among them during the revolution of 000-1905 ...
      About 7 percent of the entire state apparatus ...

      And at once life became easier for the common people - "The bureaucrats are afraid that the people will arm themselves !!!!!", yeah ....
      Nifiga they were never afraid of pistols - but when the population got rifles, it was here that the authorities got nervous at H2 ...
    7. 0
      19 July 2021 12: 13
      If recalculated at the exchange rate of gold, then one ruble (about 1,5 grams) at the turn of the 2th - 3th centuries, corresponds to XNUMX-XNUMX thousand of the current ones. So, not so cheap.
  5. +14
    13 June 2021 08: 04
    Princip's Browning is now on display at the Vienna Museum of Military History.


    In total, the group of terrorists who were preparing the assassination attempt on the Archduke had four "Browning" FN Model 1910. Even their numbers are known: 19074, 19075, 19120 and 19126. Three of them, including the one from which Franz Ferdinand was killed, are located at the Vienna Heeresgeschichtliches Museum.

    Information, which of the four is missing, could not be found. No. 19074 - on the left.
    1. +8
      13 June 2021 08: 11
      Valuable addition Victor Nikolaevich!
      1. +1
        13 June 2021 12: 51
        A valuable addition

        The organism that put the minus has the opposite opinion.
        1. +2
          13 June 2021 13: 18
          And the body persists in its opinion. Looking at such organisms, I recall Panikovsky's opinion about them.
  6. +14
    13 June 2021 08: 13
    - From the same Browning F. Kaplan shot at V. I. Lenin on August 30, 1918 ...
    - She had a Browning even earlier in the year ... than G. Princip ...
    - Yes, this weapon is rather "tricky" ...
    1. +15
      13 June 2021 08: 49
      "It was the king of revolvers,
      He had them great,
      Browning, Browning
      You don't need to be strong with him
      The inexperienced is always wrong
      And long live Browning! "
      Edith Piaf - Browning
      1. +12
        13 June 2021 09: 03
        "It was the king of revolvers,
        He had them great

        In a Cape Town port with a hole in the side
        Jeanette was adjusting the rigging.
        ---------------------------
        ---------------------------
        Going to that restaurant, seeing the English,
        The French were all angry.
        And, taking out daggers, forgetting the sea charter,
        They fought like children of Satan ...

        But the Browning settles the Cape Town dispute,
        And the British started shooting ...
        ------------------------------------------
        -----------------------------------------
        But did not return to the port and did not board
        Fourteen French sailors.
  7. +9
    13 June 2021 08: 29
    = My hand is rather narrow, not some kind of coffin, =
    A woman's palm turns into dignity in a man! Ay yes Shpakovsky, as always in his repertoire.
    1. 0
      19 June 2021 15: 03
      What is the problem? If a person makes a living by literature and journalism, it is naturally more convenient for him with a small hand and not with fingers that overlap three letters on the keyboard.
      1. +1
        19 June 2021 17: 29
        Quote: your1970
        What is the problem? If a person makes a living by literature and journalism, it is naturally more convenient for him with a small hand and not with fingers that overlap three letters on the keyboard.

        A man must be a man, no matter in what hypostasis he is.
  8. +3
    13 June 2021 11: 02
    Shaw, have our Archduke Ferdinand been killed again?
  9. +6
    13 June 2021 11: 03
    by Husqvarna Vapenfabriks
    Looked at the history of the company. It turned out that the current manufacturer of excellent petrol and power tools has a glorious tradition of weapons.
    Thank you, Vyacheslav Olegovich!
    1. +5
      13 June 2021 11: 42
      The market for chainsaws in the Russian Federation is practically captured. Our "Friendship" and "Urals" are in the past.
      1. +5
        13 June 2021 11: 51
        "I am" Druzhbist ", I have a chainsaw," Druzhba "(Druzhba)! - and a" ducat "in my pocket!" (C)
        PS. The text of the quote is distorted due to invectivity. It was easier for Dovlatov.
        1. 0
          13 June 2021 11: 54
          Quote: 3x3zsave
          Dovlatov found it easier

          Today I heard from Utkin another quote from Dovlatov ... in connection with yesterday's Russia-Belniy match.
          1. +3
            13 June 2021 11: 59
            You know, to be honest, I don’t follow. I'm more interested in another lockdown. Which is beyond doubt for Peter.
            1. 0
              13 June 2021 13: 00
              But there was a quote in the topic)

              For Moscow, too, as I understand it.
              Have you been vaccinated?
              1. +1
                13 June 2021 13: 24
                I seem to have been ill. In the "light" version.
                1. +1
                  13 June 2021 13: 39
                  Lockdowns will never end without mass vaccinations
                  1. +2
                    13 June 2021 13: 52
                    What's the use? Immunity lasts six months. The nephew and his wife, having recovered from the illness in October, went on a "second round" in early April.
                    Most of all oppressed by the hysteria of the media and the inadequacy of the government.
                    1. +2
                      13 June 2021 14: 28
                      Quote: 3x3zsave
                      Immunity lasts six months.

                      With vaccines? Two doses of Pfizer give from a year to two immunity, not to mention the virtual absence of severe forms of the disease who has the vaccine
                      1. +2
                        13 June 2021 14: 40
                        Two doses of Pfizer give one to two years of immunity
                        Not a very good advertisement for a well-known pharmaceutical company. The causative agent was identified less than two years ago. For the rest, undoubtedly, the antibodies produced make it much easier to transfer subsequent infections.
                      2. 0
                        13 June 2021 14: 52
                        And here is the advertisement. The first people received doses in April / May last year as part of clinical trials. More than a year ago. And they are constantly monitored. The vast majority of us, including my family members, are vaccinated with this drug. That is why Pfizer mentioned it.
                      3. +3
                        13 June 2021 15: 03
                        I have nothing against the Pfizer corporation, I myself periodically use its products. By advertising, I meant the phrase "up to two".
                        You see, here, in Russia, "futurism" in advertising is so intrusive that it begins to affect the mentality.
                        However, the "retrospective" too.
                      4. 0
                        13 June 2021 15: 09
                        Perhaps I am not that strong in Russian .. but if people received doses more than a year ago, they still retain immunity .. how can I correctly indicate the period of time, if not from a year to two?
                      5. +3
                        13 June 2021 15: 18
                        You shouldn't be lame, your Russian language is much better than some native speakers. You built the phrase correctly, I interpreted it in an "original" way, and explained why.
                      6. +1
                        13 June 2021 15: 25
                        Almost all restrictions will be canceled from tomorrow, only the obligation to use a mask in closed rooms remains.
                      7. +2
                        13 June 2021 15: 33
                        And we are all good! SPIEF, Euromundial, Scarlet Sails ... and many hours of queues from ambulances to covid dispensaries.
                      8. +2
                        13 June 2021 15: 38
                        Quote: 3x3zsave
                        many hours of queues from ambulances to covid dispensaries

                        Miracles do not happen. Without at least half of the vaccinated population, nothing will change. On the 19th I will finally get a "dose") and with a clear conscience I will go to visit the beaches of Ischia, Pompeii, Vesuvius, Reggia di Caserta and other cool places)
                      9. +3
                        13 June 2021 15: 47
                        I would also go somewhere, but "work takes all the time allotted for it."
                      10. +2
                        13 June 2021 16: 26
                        Quote: 3x3zsave
                        work takes up all the time allotted for it. "

                        I have an ultimatum from my wife)
                      11. +2
                        13 June 2021 16: 32
                        No appeal argument!
                        And I have obligations to customers. And so 2 months in winter prfilonil.
                      12. +2
                        13 June 2021 16: 35
                        Two years ago, because of work at the last moment, I extended my vacation and went to Spain alone with my children ... the bitter experience of living for the next couple of months tells me that it is better not to repeat this trick)
                      13. +2
                        13 June 2021 16: 43
                        Wondering why a beach vacation in Spain is more attractive than an Italian one, except perhaps (?) The cost? Or just a change of scenery?
                      14. +2
                        13 June 2021 16: 53
                        As if you don't know women ..)
                        We live an hour by car / train from the Côte d'Azur, 2 hours to Nice / Montecarlo. But we have never spent a "big" vacation there. Only weekends. Because ...I see it almost every week in the summer, I want other places, my friend / colleague out of Ibiza / Sardinia / Pineda del Mar and so on photos posted that we will be like fuckers only in San Remo to relax..
                        And in Spain, yes, it is cheaper, on average, all other things being equal. During the peak period from July 15 to August 15, the difference is twofold. But the main motive is to change places. In Spain, by the way, she did not like it and does not want to go there anymore. That significantly reduced the period of the cold period. wars because of my outrageous and unforgivable behavior
                      15. +1
                        13 June 2021 17: 07
                        Mmda ... I remember the monologue of Klara Novikova, thirty years ago.
                        And I visited Catalonia just in the indicated period. The locals said it was very good.
                      16. +1
                        13 June 2021 17: 14
                        Also in Catalonia then. Pineda de Mar. About 1000 euros hotel for 8 days. In Italy for that kind of money you can’t rest in any decent place, especially at rush
                      17. +1
                        13 June 2021 17: 43
                        2014, end of July - beginning of August. Blanes, hotel Stella maris, 3 *, "all inclusive". A trip for two cost a little more than 2000 €. With the flight, of course.
                        By the way, after this trip, on the "all inclusive" option, I put it with a large device. It is much more interesting to observe where the locals eat or shop. I did just that in Barcelona. Informative and cheaper.
                      18. +1
                        13 June 2021 17: 46
                        1000 but without a flight. Usually we include breakfast and lunch. And dinner is already on our own. In short, I liked Barcelona more than the rest itself)
                      19. +3
                        13 June 2021 18: 07
                        Well, everything is close there!)))
                        As for Barcelona, ​​I don't know a person who didn't like it (by the way, unlike Peter).
                        "A fairy tale city, a dream city,
                        Getting into his network, you disappear forever "(C)
                        I don’t know how the Barcelona people live today, but this is the place to which I want to return!
                        Sorry for the pathos.
                      20. +1
                        13 June 2021 18: 22
                        Quote: 3x3zsave
                        close!)))

                        Barcelona is almost 1000 km away).
                      21. +2
                        13 June 2021 18: 45
                        Sorry, but you have already lost the habit of "huge distances".
                        For the average Russian car owner, this is not a distance. Himself driving not very long ago, but it happened that he wound more than five hundred in a day.
                      22. +1
                        13 June 2021 19: 24
                        “But because he and the Far East,
                        What is far in the east ”(c).
                      23. 0
                        13 June 2021 20: 29
                        Quote: 3x3zsave
                        I used to wind up more than five hundred a day.

                        When I was younger, I went to visit my parents for many years in a row. By car. 2200 km one way, usually without stopping for sleep and rest. It turned out 28/30 hours. So I have an idea. I know people who made such trips from Portugal regularly. Km 4000 plus a tail, though they stopped. And 300-400 a day for work is commonplace in some periods
                      24. +1
                        13 June 2021 19: 22
                        My older daughters are trying to explain the rights of my wife.
                      25. +1
                        13 June 2021 19: 28
                        It's funny. Are they doing it?
                      26. +1
                        13 June 2021 19: 37
                        No.

                        There is a saying: "At least a stake on your head".
                      27. 0
                        13 June 2021 16: 00
                        I have a second after 26
                        How was the first one moved? They frightened me with complications, but in reality, my wife and I only had a slight pain in the injection site for one day.
                      28. +1
                        13 June 2021 16: 31
                        I'm actually only 1st now. My age category is starting to get vaccinated this week.
                        As a health worker, my wife did both doses of Pfizer back in January. There were no side effects. They seem to talk about side effects only in connection with AstraZeneca. And only in young women. And only after the first dose. In this regard, AZ is used only for over 60. Everyone younger is Pfizer or Modern
                      29. +1
                        13 June 2021 16: 55
                        With "Sputnik" in different ways. My electrician (32 years old) after the first injection had a tough "flu" for a couple of days, and the customer (52) was running "cheerfully".
                      30. +1
                        13 June 2021 17: 03
                        Everything is individual of course. But ... when there is a choice between 4 different vaccines, then isolated cases of problems are a reason to abandon one in favor of the other. AZ and Johnson lost this war. They (like Sputnik) are made according to the "old" technologies and give much more side effects. And more expensive, by the way, than the more breakthrough Pfizer / Modern. And Sputnik is generally prohibitively expensive. If everyone else has 2 doses of the same vaccine, Sputnik essentially has 2 different vaccines. It is very expensive and in manufacturing and then in logistics
                      31. +1
                        13 June 2021 17: 13
                        for Sputnik, in fact, these are 2 different vaccines.
                        Also from the "plague", just in case they vaccinate?)))
                      32. +1
                        13 June 2021 17: 17
                        I was also surprised when I found out about it). But nevertheless it is so. There is a very significant difference between the composition of the first and second doses.
                      33. 0
                        13 June 2021 17: 39
                        At the beginning of spring, my wife fell ill, but in a not very severe form, although it was dangerous - she had a very low temperature. Immunity is not very developed, I decided to get vaccinated too. Made by Pfizer.
                      34. +1
                        13 June 2021 17: 44
                        Does Ukraine make direct purchases from Pfizer or through COVAX?
                      35. 0
                        13 June 2021 19: 05
                        don't know how they buy
                      36. 0
                        13 June 2021 17: 51
                        although dangerous - she had a very low temperature
                        Pancake! But this is a very serious rare fluctuation. And the prerequisites? Does your wife have a low body temperature?
                        Sorry, not just out of curiosity, myself from the "cold-blooded".
                      37. +1
                        13 June 2021 19: 21
                        I would like to wait five years. But they are already beginning to try to squeeze.
                      38. +1
                        13 June 2021 19: 38
                        I would like to too. Maybe I can do it. Let's do an experiment?
                      39. +1
                        13 June 2021 21: 03
                        I have already been included in the table for examinations for the magistracy, as the one who is going to do it in the near future.

                        A colleague did in front of the field recently, otherwise he would not have been allowed into Mongolia.
            2. +2
              13 June 2021 13: 13
              And me. The zoo is said to have been closed.
              My part-time job is working.
              1. +2
                13 June 2021 13: 26
                Have the animals started to get sick?
                1. +1
                  13 June 2021 19: 16
                  Not. People create, do not understand what.
                  1. +1
                    13 June 2021 19: 24
                    In what sense?
                    No, I was serious. I know that monkeys are the most demanded exhibit in zoos. I'm worried about the monkeys ...
                    1. +1
                      13 June 2021 19: 27
                      I do not know. Not enough information.

                      Our guards were wearing gloves today.

                      Gruzdev called himself get in the body.
                      1. +1
                        13 June 2021 19: 32
                        In principle, primates should be sick the same as humans.
                      2. +1
                        13 June 2021 19: 39
                        Probably.

                        But, if this is the problem, it was possible to close only them.
                      3. +1
                        13 June 2021 20: 03
                        You and I have lived here all our lives. And not once, during these 50 years, has the power been limited to half measures.
                      4. +1
                        13 June 2021 21: 04
                        We don't see who makes the decisions.

                        But we have firmly learned not to rush to take it under our cap.
  10. +3
    13 June 2021 11: 08
    And also .... And also .... Our Belgium lost 0: 3 ...
    1. +2
      13 June 2021 11: 42
      One thing consoles at least not kneeling.
    2. +1
      13 June 2021 11: 54
      Was there any hope?
  11. +3
    13 June 2021 11: 53
    Quote: Kote Pan Kokhanka
    .
    Moreover, while searching for photos, I fell into the classic delusion of confusing parabellum with a luger!

    So parabellum is the Luger P-08.
  12. +2
    13 June 2021 11: 55
    In adaptation from Netflix, he would have been shot from Makarov.
    1. Fat
      0
      13 June 2021 12: 47
      Nonsense! Makarov is not telegenic, I'm sure Netflix would choose a Mauser wassat
  13. +6
    13 June 2021 13: 02
    Arranged pistol was nowhere simpler. Here's how many details he understood ...

    This is an incomplete disassembly, not into parts, but into units. There are many more details.
  14. +4
    13 June 2021 13: 06
    Another four years passed. And Browning again pleased his fans with a very good pistol FN 1910. The pistol was produced in two versions: chambered for 7,65 mm and 9 mm. The store, as before, was designed for seven rounds, but then many considered a large capacity for a pistol to be excessive.

    The seven-round magazine had a version chambered for .32 ACP. The .380 ACP version had a six-round magazine capacity.
  15. +5
    13 June 2021 13: 15
    There is another FN M1910, noted in the field of political assassinations.

    From this "Browning" "Russian fascist" Pavel Gorgulov killed the President of the French Republic Paul Doumer in 1932.
    1. +1
      13 June 2021 16: 02
      A dangerous thing for the highest echelon of power in different countries :)
      Not Kaplan, so Gorgulov ,,,,
  16. -2
    14 June 2021 15: 47
    What kind of gvn do you need to kill now so that zeroing starts?
  17. 0
    17 June 2021 12: 40
    Quote: Senior Sailor
    What's your Browning, Comrade Kosachevsky?

    “Belgian,” I said, stunned by the waterfall of words.

    In this historical period, any compact self-loading pistol was called "Browning". That is, the name "Browning" has become a household name, which once again testifies to the recognition of both the designer himself and his magnificent weapon.
    1. 0
      19 June 2021 15: 11
      Quote: Stormsdruttin
      once again testifies to the recognition of both the designer himself and his magnificent weapon.

      Rather, about the mass character ... Nagant was not the best - nevertheless, we still have all revolvers - Nagans. Sometimes even jumping to pistols lol lol
  18. 0
    24 June 2021 20: 26
    The author, if anything, the parabelum's lever also "jumps in front of the shooter's eyes" and nothing, one of the best pistols in the world.
  19. 0
    25 July 2021 05: 16
    Recently I bought a 1910 Browning with the number exactly 5000. I haven’t fired yet.
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