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The US press is surprised by the "absence" of hypersonic missiles at the Victory Parade in Moscow

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The Victory Parade is held annually in the Russian Federation - the largest military parade, invariably accompanied by a demonstration weapons... Traditionally, legendary people are the first to appear on Red Square. Tanks T-34 wartime, and then - a modern weapon, which is in service with the Russian army.


In 2021, about 12 thousand servicemen, 190 units of military and special equipment, 76 aircraft and helicopters took part in the traditional parade. Columns of units and formations, military educational institutions marched through Red Square, infantry fighting vehicles BMP-2 and BMP-3, the Kurganets-25 combat vehicle, and the S-400 air defense missile system passed. Also taking part in the parade were the Tornado-S MLRS, Iskander-M tactical missiles, Msta-S self-propelled howitzers, mobile launchers of the Yars missile system.

However, Chris Osborne, the author of the popular magazine The National Interest, calls the T-2021 Armata tank and the new Su-14 fighter the most interesting pieces of equipment shown at the 57 parade. These are some of the most famous and popularized novelties of the Russian military industry, about which the Western press has written a lot before.

As Chris Osborne writes in the US press, a large number of Cold War military equipment is still in service in Russia, which, nevertheless, is being actively modernized. Some of the new tanks and aircraft are quite understandable concern on the American side. Chris Osborne himself admits that the Pentagon still cannot answer the question of how dangerous the new Russian Armata tank is.

Another frequently discussed novelty is the Su-57 fighter: Americans are interested in whether it can compete with the American fifth-generation F-35 fighters.

Chris Osborne wonders which weapon was not shown in the parade and why. After all, the most interesting moment for foreigners is those types of weapons that are much talked about, but which are almost never demonstrated.

Where is the hypersonic weapon that Vladimir Putin has talked about so often?

- the American author asks in surprise.

It's not very clear whether Osborne is being ironic or really worried that Russia might be deliberately hiding the appearance of its latest weapons. Rather, it’s the latter, since both the American press and the official statements of the Pentagon representatives have repeatedly expressed fears about the creation of hypersonic weapons in Russia and China.

For example, in October 2020, General Glen Vancher, head of the North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD) and the United States Northern Command (USNORTHCOM), expressed concern that hypersonic defense was not keeping pace with its development and that outdated US early warning systems may not be able to cope with the challenge posed by Russian and Chinese hypersonic weapons.

Earlier, the presence of hypersonic weapons in Russia and China was confirmed by the head of the Strategic Command of the US Armed Forces, General John Hayten. General Hayten then acknowledged the failure of two US attempts to develop its own hypersonic weapons, and then US Secretary of Defense Mark Esper pointed to the United States' lag behind Russia in the area of ​​hypersonic weapons.

It is possible that it is precisely this reasoning of American generals that makes US media analysts worry about why Moscow still hides its hypersonic missiles and does not want to demonstrate them even at such a solemn and significant event as the Victory Parade.



It is worth noting the inattention of the American author. After all, hypersonic weapons were shown at the May 9 parade. We are talking about hypersonic missile systems "Dagger", which have already been put into service with the Russian Aerospace Forces. MiG-31K aircraft with this kind of missiles on board flew over Red Square, but the American journalist either did not pay attention to this, or did not want to pay attention to it. Apparently he was going to see something else.
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  1. hrych
    hrych 12 May 2021 10: 57
    +20
    And the Dagger? Did not notice? Political myopia, political priestesses of the service industry? Or was it necessary to drag the UR100UTTH with the Vanguard? Maybe a corvette with Zircon straight to the Square? wassat
    1. Lt. Air Force stock
      Lt. Air Force stock 12 May 2021 10: 59
      +4
      Give them a rocket with a ramjet engine, and a dagger like Iskander solid-propellant rockets. In fact, any modern ballistic missile is considered hypersonic.
      1. lucul
        lucul 12 May 2021 11: 10
        -1
        Give them a rocket with a ramjet engine, and a dagger like an Iskander solid-propellant rockets

        And a rocket with a ramjet engine on what kind of fuel does it fly, solid or liquid? ))))
        In fact, any modern ballistic missile is considered hypersonic.

        ))))
        In fact, no ballistic missile can fly in the atmosphere for a long time at hypersonic speed, otherwise it will burn out. Except for Russian hypersonic missiles.
        1. Lt. Air Force stock
          Lt. Air Force stock 12 May 2021 14: 27
          0
          Quote: lucul
          And a rocket with a ramjet engine on what kind of fuel does it fly, solid or liquid? ))))

          Typically liquid fuel.
          1. Serg koma
            Serg koma 12 May 2021 19: 48
            +2
            "Quickly the rocket flies into the distance
            You do not wait for a meeting with her
            And although America is a little sorry
            Europe has it ahead "
      2. hrych
        hrych 12 May 2021 11: 11
        +7
        In addition to Iskander, which develops hypersound, the S-400 missiles are also hypersonic. And hypersonic - the speed characteristic, and does not depend on the engines. The Vanguard is the last stage of a launch vehicle with an LPRE, the Kh-32 has its own LPRE. Of all the hypersonic ones, only Zircon with a straight-through engine ... for now.
      3. Peak
        Peak 12 May 2021 11: 20
        -1
        Quote: Lt. air force reserve
        In fact, any modern ballistic missile is considered hypersonic.

        NOT a missile, but its warhead, a "warhead", sometimes separable and maneuvering.
        And in fact, today only we, alone in the whole world, have such a maneuvering hypersonic unit.
        1. Vladimir Mashkov
          Vladimir Mashkov 12 May 2021 11: 29
          +3
          "Where is the hypersonic weapon that Vladimir Putin talked about so often?"

          Yeah, wait you will be laid out in a cut and with a detailed technical description! laughing
          1. Egoza
            Egoza 12 May 2021 17: 23
            +1
            Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
            Yeah, wait you will be laid out in a cut and with a detailed technical description!

            "Or maybe you also have the keys to the apartment, where the money is"?
        2. venik
          venik 12 May 2021 18: 00
          0
          Quote: PiK
          NOT a missile, but its warhead, a "warhead", sometimes separable and maneuvering.

          =======
          Not always, not always! "Dagger" for example - does not have a detachable warhead! But her flight speed - hypersonic! With "Zircon" - the same story !!! hi
      4. Piramidon
        Piramidon 12 May 2021 13: 22
        0
        Quote: Lt. air force reserve
        In fact, any modern ballistic missile is considered hypersonic.

        They mean controlled during the flight.
    2. Finches
      Finches 12 May 2021 11: 03
      +8
      All missiles on alert with a clogged route: the launcher is a US military base!
      1. depressant
        depressant 12 May 2021 11: 49
        -1
        This is what I wanted to say after reading the title. They are on alert!
    3. lucul
      lucul 12 May 2021 11: 14
      -1
      Maybe a corvette with Zircon straight to the Square?

      Yeah, maybe they still need to take Poseidon across Red Square? )))
    4. demo
      demo 12 May 2021 11: 23
      +3
      Where is the hypersonic weapon that Vladimir Putin has talked about so often?
      - the American author asks in surprise.

      Not! Americans would like to see Poseidon on Red Square.
      That would be joy!
    5. Cananecat
      Cananecat 12 May 2021 11: 30
      +7
      Quote: hrych
      And the Dagger? Did not notice?

      Announcer at the parade:
      - And now in the sky over Red Square ... in other matters, it does not matter, they have already flown ...
    6. Dmitry V.
      Dmitry V. 12 May 2021 12: 20
      +1
      Quote: hrych
      And the Dagger? Did not notice? Political myopia, political priestesses of the service industry? Or was it necessary to drag the UR100UTTH with the Vanguard? Maybe a corvette with Zircon straight to the Square?


      With the same success, any tactical missile can be called a "hypersonic" weapon.
      a tactical strike complex called "Dagger" reaches hypersonic speeds in the active phase and cannot maintain it throughout the entire flight phase.

      In general, "hypersonic" weapons include devices with a ramjet engine operating at hypersonic speeds (scramjet) - the dagger does not apply to them in any way - this is an invention of journalists.
      1. hrych
        hrych 13 May 2021 09: 39
        -3
        Quote: Dmitry Vladimirovich
        With the same success, any tactical missile can be called a "hypersonic" weapon.

        No, not any. And only those that reach hypersound.
        Quote: Dmitry Vladimirovich
        cannot maintain it throughout the entire leg of the flight.

        Firstly, after acceleration to hypersound and before diving at the target, the Dagger has hypersound. It is an aeroballistic rocket and its ballistic trajectory does not imply a loss of speed after the operation of the turbojet engine, except when entering a dense, air layer, which it overcomes in ... 2 seconds. In ballistic missiles, the loss of speed is due to gravity during lifting, after the engine stops working, respectively, the speed increases when falling. The dagger practically does not rise, it is lifted into the vacuum by a stratospheric plane. Accordingly, with almost horizontal acceleration and falling down, there is nowhere to lose speed. Take a bullet and shoot horizontally to the ground, release the same bullet simultaneously with the shot and from the same height above the surface. Bullets will fall at the same time, according to the laws of ballistics, only a bullet fired from kilometers further. The dagger, unlike the bullet, of course also maneuvers, but nevertheless.
        Quote: Dmitry Vladimirovich
        In general, "hypersonic" weapons include vehicles with a ramjet engine

        Where does this heresy come from? Hypersonic - blatantly high-speed performance. And your fiction that the Dagger does not belong to them laughing
        1. Dmitry V.
          Dmitry V. 13 May 2021 12: 41
          +1
          Quote: hrych
          It is an aeroballistic rocket and its ballistic trajectory does not imply a loss of speed after the operation of the turbojet engine, except when entering a dense, air layer, which it overcomes in ... 2 seconds


          Hrych - have you seen the profile of the trajectory of the 9-C-7760 "dagger"? :)).
          Do not tell your fantasies about how an "aeroballistic" rocket does not lose speed in a "thin atmosphere" when it runs out of fuel.
          At one time there were ballistic trajectories - even from a specialized university - you are like a preschool child, telling that they found you in a cabbage :)
          - Aerodynamic effects are taken into account from an altitude of 50 km,

          Quote: hrych
          The dagger practically does not rise, it is lifted into the vacuum by a stratospheric plane.
          Read nothing funnier - layman! Launch at altitudes of 12000-14000 m, flight profile above 50000 m. - where is it horizontally?
          - no MiG-31 with a combat load in the form of a "Dagger" will reach its service ceiling of 20600m - at best 13000-15000m with this combat load.
          Quote: hrych
          Accordingly, with almost horizontal acceleration and falling down, there is nowhere to lose speed.

          - under the table - he laughed to tears, Hrych - any ballistician will confirm to you that everything within 50 km is dense layers of the atmosphere that actively decelerate the body, in the passive phase of the flight, so a tactical missile, albeit based on an airplane or ground-based - the more actively it will slow down, the higher its speed. Therefore, the trajectory profile of 9-С-7760 is laid above 50 km.
          For your reference: warheads of ballistic missiles entering the atmosphere along a steep trajectory (50 km) have a speed of 5000-6000 m / s, by the time the target is hit, 2000-2500 m / s.
          For a quasi-ballistic tactical missile, which is the Dagger - part of the flight takes place in dense layers of the atmosphere - the active section is 15-20 seconds 10000 m / s with a gradual drop in speed, depending on the trajectory profile, up to 3000 m / s.
          You listen to the fables of journalists
          In fact, the 9-C-7760 is a modified OTR 9M723 for airborne deployment, with increased energy due to air launch.
          So-so achievement, at least not so much that it would be called "hypersonic".
          It is you, amateurs, about this "breaking spears" with foam at the mouth.
          1. hrych
            hrych 13 May 2021 13: 14
            -1
            Don't fall under your children's table wassat The Dagger is STATED to achieve hypersonic speed at an altitude of 20 km. And for those who laugh for no reason, reaching the ceiling is achieved by the capabilities of the MiG-31 propulsion system to work at heights, and not its weight. Since he was honored to get off the ground, then he will rise to his practical ceiling of 21 and a half kilometers. It has a dynamic ceiling of 30, and a record-breaking 37650 m. The increased weight load can only affect the flight range. I repeat for the gifted that it was not I who said, but DECLARED that the Dagger accelerates at an altitude of 20 km and for any 50 km it was not announced. Is it in your groundless statement. Why did they decide that the start of the Dagger was also made from an altitude of 20 km ... in the darkness of the atmosphere. From 20 km, the sky suddenly becomes dark. See footage of tests. Compare the color of the sky at start-up and during start-up.
            Quote: Dmitry Vladimirovich
            It is you, amateurs, about this "breaking spears" with foam at the mouth.

            Are you like a great Ukrainian rocket scientist here? Don't answer me. I don't intend to read, I'll put a minus right away, wassat .
            1. Dmitry V.
              Dmitry V. 14 May 2021 15: 18
              +1
              Quote: hrych
              reaching hypersonic speed at an altitude of 20 km.


              In general, launch at 14000 m, reaching hypersound to an altitude of 20000 m, apogee above 50000 m and the main part of the trajectory above 50000 m.
              You don't even understand the principle of building trajectories

              I have nothing to do with uraine, but I had a very direct relationship with missiles.
              1. hrych
                hrych 14 May 2021 17: 35
                -1
                At 14 thousand, the sky is still bright. Open your eyes and watch the footage of the launch of the Dagger. From 20 km, the sky is from dark purple to black-purple (at high altitudes). Here, the launch altitude is easy to identify. The heresy about 50 km started from Iskander, that supposedly its main trajectory passes at this altitude. In fact, the Dagger, based on logic, is obliged to work in three ways. The first and foremost, as a strategic one with SBS, covering the entire EU and other China (without leaving the carrier from its air defense zone). The second, like the anti-ship missile and the third, is simply like a tactical air-to-surface missile to destroy command posts, accumulations of manpower, etc. The same Iskander can already be safely suspected of the same specialization, including the anti-ship missile variant. Once a rocket scientist, he must know about the different application algorithm according to the target, its nature, range, etc. He must know that the anti-ship missile needs to capture the target, the inertial is enough to burn the city, and for the enemy clusters and its control points, you need to hit the exact coordinates either to hit the highlighted target, you can use tele-guidance. I must understand that at the maximum range, the projectile is launched from a maximum height and at 45 degrees, and the carrier must do this, and not the projectile should change its trajectory and lose energy. A flash on frames carried out a horizontal flight and a projectile drop during tests. But the fact of the matter is that 21,5 km is the practical ceiling of the Miga, i.e. where he is able to fly horizontally, and the record for the dynamic ceiling (slides) is almost twice as large, 37,7 km. Who said that Mig cannot make a slide from 20 to 30 km and not drop the Dagger at a certain angle? You said? It is clear that also no one forbids the Migu-31K to carry out a low-altitude breakthrough and no one forbids the Dagger to make a "hill" to capture the target. Yes, it will lose in range and speed, but it will solve the problem. The whole trick is in the versatility of this complex.
        2. Dmitry V.
          Dmitry V. 13 May 2021 12: 44
          0
          Quote: hrych
          Where does this heresy come from? Hypersonic - blatantly high-speed performance. And your fiction that the Dagger does not belong to them


          Yes, yes - hypersonic asteroids enter the planet's atmosphere - outrageous!
          1. hrych
            hrych 17 May 2021 09: 55
            0
            Quote: Dmitry Vladimirovich
            Yes, yes - hypersonic asteroids enter the planet's atmosphere - outrageous!

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  2. mojohed2012
    mojohed2012 12 May 2021 10: 58
    +5
    How did you not notice it? They are hypersonic. Once they flew by, no one noticed!
    Maybe it was also necessary to demonstrate the electronic warfare means in an activated state and show missiles with nuclear warheads at launch?
    1. NDR-791
      NDR-791 12 May 2021 11: 10
      +4
      the most interesting moment for foreigners is those types of weapons that are much talked about, but which are almost never demonstrated.
      Poorly asked. Better ask - you will see ... live. (joke) So it is right that they departed from the traditions of the times of Khrushchev. Then the layouts of not existing ones were rolled out. So now it's better - the unknown is annoying good
  3. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 12 May 2021 11: 06
    +3
    Zircon he is like that gopher! And then you already know: Americans don't watch our films? And a sequel based on Zadornov!
  4. askort154
    askort154 12 May 2021 11: 15
    +6
    The US press is surprised by the "absence" of hypersonic missiles at the Victory Parade in Moscow.

    Every year Russia shows things that are not particularly secretive at the international platform and parades, and the main one "keeps a brick in its bosom."
    According to the principle - let it be a surprise for the arrogantly curious.
  5. Cananecat
    Cananecat 12 May 2021 11: 15
    +2
    General Hayten then acknowledged the failure of two U.S. attempts to develop its own hypersonic weapon.

    I remembered a shot from the movie "The End of Operation" Resident ". Where a Soviet professor is asked to deliberately" light up "incorrect calculations ...)))
  6. faterdom
    faterdom 12 May 2021 11: 17
    +5
    Did he not want to see the Death Star or at least Poseidon at the parade?
    Everything is placed where it is necessary and against whom it is necessary - even if it does not bother ...
    If at the right time a journalist turns out to be in Moscow at that time, you will see that he will be more whole. True, his magazine will be closed for technical reasons, but this is such a trifle - isn't it?
  7. Pereira
    Pereira 12 May 2021 11: 30
    +3
    Calm down, Americans. Hypersonic weapons - Mosfilm cartoons.
  8. Rageee
    Rageee 12 May 2021 11: 37
    -4
    However, uncomfortable questions are asked by a friend wink
    1. bk316
      bk316 12 May 2021 11: 46
      -2
      However, uncomfortable questions are asked by a friend

      Well, yes, they are like that.
      They will ask why the earth is flat and it is inconvenient to answer. laughing
      Well, the visitors to the VO answered, they worked hard.

      They were there (it’s about a dagger who doesn’t understand) this time.
      We don’t ride ships on Red Square (it’s about zircon who don’t understand) these are two.
      And the avant-garde is not a rocket, it is three.
      1. Rageee
        Rageee 12 May 2021 12: 01
        -4
        really, and what was not shown? from each iron you only hear about zircon, which has no analogue in the world, which will not be adopted today tomorrow ...
        1. bk316
          bk316 12 May 2021 12: 04
          +3
          unparalleled in the world zircon,

          And one more ...
          Zircon is still a ship's rocket. Have you ever rolled this around Red Square?
          So if you really want to see you, you are welcome to Peter laughing , and better to Murmansk.
      2. Rageee
        Rageee 12 May 2021 12: 10
        -4
        yes, the dagger is not interesting, the same Iskander, only in profile. Ballistic missiles flew at hypersonic speed decades ago, this is not news.
        I think everyone is interested in zircon, which is supposedly capable of flying in the earth's atmosphere at hypersonic speed and at the same time precisely generating moving targets ... but it was just not shown ... earlier when they wrote about zircon in the form of visualization, they posted a photo of the American cruise missile X -51A Waverider ...
        p / s and someone asks to transport ships across the red square? no, it will be enough to carry a zircon rocket on a wheeled tractor ... apparently this is an overwhelming task smile
        1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
          Sidor Amenpodestovich 12 May 2021 12: 29
          +1
          Ballistic missiles flew at hypersonic speed decades ago, this is not news.

          ICBMs never flew at hypersonic speed, not decades ago, not now. A warhead falling to Earth from a height of 1000 kilometers has a hypersonic speed in the atmosphere.
          someone asks to transport ships across the red square? no, it will be enough to carry a zircon rocket on a wheeled tractor ... apparently this is an overwhelming task

          They wrote to you above that the anti-ship missiles are not shown at parades.
          Why don't you ask yourself why the Onyxes were never seen at the parade?
          1. Rageee
            Rageee 12 May 2021 12: 42
            -3
            because Onyx is "one hundred years old at lunchtime" and this is an ordinary PCR, and not a revolutionary weapon that changes the rules of the game, which is Zircon, if it certainly corresponds to what we are told. But they stubbornly refuse to show the rocket, otherwise experts and the public will suddenly have uncomfortable questions.
            in China, for example, they also skate at parades, there are no problems in this, there would be a desire.
            Well, what the promising American hypersonic missile X-51A Waverider looks like, we have an idea (although it is far from being armed)

            but we have no idea how almost serial Zircon looks like ..
            1. bk316
              bk316 12 May 2021 13: 13
              +2
              because Onyx is "a hundred years old at lunchtime"

              He is now 100 years old at lunchtime, and once he was a novelty. And then they didn't take him either.
              You propose to arrange a clowning to put a rocket on the cart after taking it out of the container.
              And the parade was never a clown. As a participant in the parade, I am telling you this. For me, the T-34 is superfluous.
              So contact the State Department with the organization of the show.
            2. Sidor Amenpodestovich
              Sidor Amenpodestovich 12 May 2021 13: 36
              +3
              in the same China, they also ride parades at parades, there are no problems in this

              What is the difference between the Chinese parade and the Russian one?
              The Chinese in the parade show what they really do not have, and the Russians do not show in the parade what they really have.
              1. Rageee
                Rageee 12 May 2021 14: 04
                -4
                and what did the Chinese show at the parade that they do not have? don't be unfounded and give specific examples ..

                do you know what is the difference between Russian weapons and opponents? (it doesn't matter whether it is the United States or China) in the first case, most Russians take everything for granted, and in the second they suddenly wake up to critical thinking laughing
                if, let's say, the same Chinese said that they are about to adopt a hypersonic missile that has no analogues in the world (ala Zircon), and then they said - but we won't show it to you this secret weapon ... then everyone would joke them and wash their bones they say it's all dust in their eyes, they really have nothing. Uncomfortable questions would immediately begin, but where is the rocket itself, where is the video of the flight, where is it hit? how does it aim at the target at such speeds through the plasma, how long does the gpvrd work for it, etc.?
                Well, as we can see from Zircon, there are no such questions, the party said that there is, it means there is)
                p / s
                1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
                  Sidor Amenpodestovich 12 May 2021 14: 16
                  +4
                  Quote: Rageee
                  if, let's say, the same Chinese said that they are about to adopt a hypersonic missile that has no analogues in the world (ala Zircon), and then they said - but we won't show it to you this secret weapon ... then everyone would joke them and wash their bones they say it's all dust in their eyes, they really have nothing. Uncomfortable questions would immediately begin, but where is the rocket itself, where is the video of the flight, where is it hit? how does it aim at the target at such speeds through the plasma, how long does the gpvrd work for it, etc.?

                  So it was all. They showed their gliding block, but not a word was said about the tests. There is no information about Chinese ICBMs other than those reported by the Chinese themselves. About J-20, too, nothing intelligible is still unknown.
                  1. Rageee
                    Rageee 12 May 2021 15: 05
                    -3
                    What specific planning block are you talking about, and if the Chinese claim that they have tested it successfully, will you take it on faith? I doubt it very much)
                    They also have a df-21 of some kind of modification, about which they declare that it can hit US avics, but local comrades doubted the real ability of this rocket to hit moving targets, not without reason I must say, that is, that very critical thinking woke up)
                    And what information about the Russian Ibr besides those reported by the Russians themselves? Are you now questioning the Chinese mbr? well, do not offer articles ala nashenel-interes laughing

                    nothing intelligible about the su-57 is still unknown ... is there an afar radar at all? The question is by no means an idle one, given that there is still no serial afar on any Russian aircraft, were there any tests of weapons from the internal compartments (except for that cartoon GIF), what is there on the second stage engine? but is it hardly noticeable at all? etc. that is, the question about su-57 is nothing less than about J-20 ...
                    1. kventinasd
                      kventinasd 12 May 2021 17: 09
                      +2
                      Quote: Rageee
                      Are you now questioning the Chinese mbr?

                      Yes, we put it. Show at least one video with throwing and other tests of missile defense and ICBM missiles in China. In Russia, Nudol is regularly shown and launches of ICBMs from submarine cruisers and training grounds. The Chinese are still buying engines for their aircraft from Russia, what kind of hypersound are you talking about?
                      1. Rageee
                        Rageee 12 May 2021 17: 27
                        -3
                        what should I show you? in China, in contrast to Russia, not in words, but in deeds, they significantly shot down their failed meteorological satellite. Yes, the Chinese do not advertise their developments and tests, but who needs to know about them. The same Americans follow them very closely and periodically report on various missile tests in China, including ICBMs.
                        About the same hypersound that Rossi also has in words, show me Zircon, how does it look like? show me his tests, I'm not talking about that video now, somewhere in the distance something very similar to onyx takes off and hides behind the clouds ...
                        oh yes, let's compare engines for aircraft and ballistic missiles, you will go far)))
                        The Chinese did not fully master the aircraft engines, but they washed Russia in space, they are exploring the moon in full, they are sending missions to Mars, now they are building their space station, while Rogozin promises to start something there in 2025. Imagine, the engines for the aircraft were not finished, and the warships were baked like cakes from small to large, and they mastered it, which in Russia they simply cannot master, and much more, and you further doubt the Chinese and beat yourself in the chest bragging about the achievements of the USSR ))
                      2. kventinasd
                        kventinasd 12 May 2021 17: 33
                        +1
                        Quote: Rageee
                        The moon is explored to the fullest, missions are sent to Mars

                        What other space countries have done more than 50 years ago laughing Does the Chinese "superpower", for example, have a nuclear attack warning system and a station like Voronezh? I will answer: No, and it is not expected!
                        The fact that they rivet ships like pies is forcing them, only in practice these ships only showed something in joint exercises, in real combat conditions no one has yet tested their reliability. I think there is no more reliability than the crafts of the Chinese car industry. And you will soon see everything about zircons, this year only 4 tests are planned.
                      3. Rageee
                        Rageee 12 May 2021 17: 52
                        -3
                        Well, the fact of the matter is that today Russia is unable to even repeat the successes of the USSR, let alone perform some new feats ...
                        It was the Chinese AMS in 2019 that for the first time in the world landed on the far side of the Moon, the Chinese also launched an automatic interplanetary station with a rover to Mars, that is, it is the Chinese who today compete in the study and conquest of space with the Americans (although they were not heard during the USSR), while Russians continue to degrade ... in 2020, the PRC has 35 successful space launches, and the former leader in this indicator of Russia has only 17 launches.
                        I tell you, today you only have to remember the past successes of the USSR ...
                        at the expense of a station like Voronezh, I don't know if the Chinese have something like that .. maybe not, or maybe there is better than Voronezh, who knows ... I just don't know)
  • alexander ivanov_9
    alexander ivanov_9 12 May 2021 11: 48
    0
    I wonder how they could have noticed if the weapon is on alert
    1. Roman070280
      Roman070280 12 May 2021 13: 11
      -4
      And ballistic missiles on alert means no ... since they were seen at the parade ..
      L - logic ..))
  • notingem
    notingem 12 May 2021 11: 49
    +2
    So the field kitchens are not shown either. Withdraw the army is starving
    1. volodimer
      volodimer 12 May 2021 14: 20
      +2
      But in the LPR they showed the ferry support vehicle (MOP) "Holder"

      She took part in the parade dedicated to the 76th anniversary of the Victory in the Great Patriotic War.

      The development of the MOP was carried out in the 80s. The collapse of the Soviet Union prevented its serial production at the Lugansk diesel locomotive plant.

      For a long time, the prototype was at the manufacturer, but a couple of years ago it was mobilized to serve in one of the NM divisions.

      The "holder" is made on the basis of the armored amphibious transporter PTS-3, which was also produced in this city. In the design of its undercarriage, elements from the Kharkov T-64 main battle tank were used, so it has good cross-country maneuverability and can develop up to 35 km / h in such conditions.

      On the highway, the maximum speed reaches already up to 60 km / h, and when crossing water obstacles - up to 15 km / h.


      The 710-horsepower Chelyabinsk multi-fuel diesel engine V-46-5 has a fuel range of about 500 km.

      A rotating turret with a 7,62-mm PKT machine gun was installed on the roof of a sealed protected cabin on the right side.

      Since the 25-ton machine had a carrying capacity of 16 tons, it was equipped with excavator and bulldozer equipment, a water jet, a motor-drill and a winch. All this makes it possible to effectively carry out various tasks in the interests of the engineering troops.
      taken from here: https://www.yaplakal.com/forum3/topic2267314.html author gogarom
      The link has more information and a video.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 12 May 2021 11: 51
    +3
    in Russia, up to the present time, a large number of military equipment from the times of the Cold War is in service, which,
    Yes, yes, look at someone who does not have such a technique at all ???
  • cniza
    cniza 12 May 2021 11: 51
    +3
    but the American journalist either did not pay attention to this, or did not want to draw it. Apparently he was going to see something else.


    He apparently wanted them to be transported on a cart near his nose ...
  • Alex Justice
    Alex Justice 12 May 2021 12: 02
    +2
    Forgot how we surprised Hitler with the T-34 and KV? Let them be afraid and wonder what is up our sleeve.
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  • Boratsagdiev
    Boratsagdiev 12 May 2021 12: 34
    +2
    Where?!...
    They are very busy, on duty.
    All three things and distracting them for any nonsense is not good. laughing
  • Vladimir61
    Vladimir61 12 May 2021 12: 41
    +3
    The US press is surprised by the "absence" of hypersonic missiles at the Victory Parade in Moscow
    Well stupid! But how can you notice them, they are hypersonic!
  • Roman070280
    Roman070280 12 May 2021 13: 06
    -9
    Chris Osborne himself admits that the Pentagon still cannot answer the question of how dangerous the new Russian Armata tank is.


    Even in Russia, they cannot yet answer this question ..))
    Although, if you start with how many of these tanks exist at all .. I think, not very dangerous ..
  • jovanni
    jovanni 12 May 2021 13: 26
    +2
    Where is the hypersonic weapon that Vladimir Putin has talked about so often?
    - the American author asks in surprise


    Duc how is it where? Zipper! It whistled and aha! Hypersound, you know! And the American author did not have time to blink an eye. So we don't need any arrivals here, otherwise you never know ...
  • iouris
    iouris 12 May 2021 13: 42
    +2
    Hypersonic missiles can only be shown in Washington DC.
  • Fantazer911
    Fantazer911 12 May 2021 17: 19
    +3
    And maybe also where the keys to the safe lie to show them?
  • bratuha
    bratuha 12 May 2021 17: 28
    +2
    Probably wanted the "Vanguard" to be launched directly from Red Square.
  • Sasha from Uralmash
    Sasha from Uralmash 12 May 2021 18: 52
    +1
    Everyone is on Alert! While there are no extras for show!
  • Alexander Smirnov: D
    Alexander Smirnov: D 12 May 2021 20: 01
    0
    What insidious ...)
  • BAI
    BAI 12 May 2021 21: 58
    +2
    Why weren't they interested in Poseidon's absence?
  • Fenia04
    Fenia04 12 May 2021 22: 35
    +1
    And what they could see was the latest camouflage and miniaturization systems.
  • aries2200
    aries2200 12 May 2021 23: 51
    +1
    here's another!!!!! to throw beads in front of the pigs ... it was possible not to show the dagger
  • Stalnov I.P.
    Stalnov I.P. 13 May 2021 13: 14
    +1
    And fuck, WE will show you everything to the Americans, so walk in ignorance, it's also more interesting, suddenly it flew in, and you managed to run to the bunker, and then from the other side it flew in, and then something fell from the sky and suddenly flew in from space. Shiver adversary, your mother will not be.
  • zenion
    zenion 13 May 2021 21: 49
    +1
    Who can see them. It would be better if the USA remembered Charlie Chaplin's film "The Great Dictator" How he was the Dictator and Napoleone stood at the parade, and the air force buzzed past them, like flies.
  • Max PV
    Max PV 16 May 2021 00: 35
    -1
    The funny thing is that it may well turn out that "Zircon" has never been a direct-flow one, and therefore it was not shown. Here's the thing: the total heat of combustion of liquid hydrogen is 144 MJ / kg, but at the same time the density is 14 times lower than water, that is, in fact, the specific volumetric energy of this fuel of hypersonic co-flow is about 10 MJ / l. And modern composite fuels for solid propellants have a calorific value of about 6 MJ / kg, with a density of about 1,8-2 kg / l. That is, their volumetric energy is higher than that of hydrogen - 11-12 MJ / l. And for the rocket, it is the volumetric energy that is important, and not the mass, since the required thrust, which means the power is directly proportional to the cross section of the rocket. But the ramjet still requires an air intake and a combustion chamber, which occupy about half the volume of the rocket, and the huge tank is not much lighter than a solid-propellant engine will be. That is, it may well be that the same "Zircons" were not shown, so as not to lead potential friends to the necessary conclusions, and to force them to throw out the loot for the development of hypersound on a ramjet engine.
  • Berg berg
    Berg berg 25 May 2021 23: 31
    0
    All are already in the army !!!