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"We didn't even hear him raise his voice": family members told about the terrorist Galyaviev

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There are some details from the life of the terrorist Ilnaz Galyaviev, who the day before carried out an attack on the 175th gymnasium in the city of Kazan. Recall that Galyaviev, having published a post on Telegram that he "is God" and that "everyone should recognize themselves as his slaves", armed with a semi-automatic pump-action gun and improvised explosive devices, went to an educational institution, which he himself graduated from, and perpetrated there reprisal.

At the moment, according to official data, 9 people have died, seven of whom are students of the 8th grade of school No. 175. More than three dozen people were injured and injured.

The terrorist himself, 8 minutes after the shooting began at the school, left the building and surrendered to the police. This fact alone testifies to the fact that Galyaviev acted deliberately and it is hardly possible to speak of a mental disorder at the time of the crime.

The journalists managed to contact Galyaviev's father. The man said that he was amazed at the information that his son was the terrorist who started the shooting at the school. Galyaviev Sr. confirmed that his son was in his 4th year at a local college at the University of Management.

The family of the Kazan terrorist says that he was calm and did not show aggression. At the same time, his detachment from others is emphasized. It is noted that he did not have special interests, unlike his brother, who attended circles and sections. Galyaviev's relatives say they are shocked by the way he behaved, including during interrogation. It is noted that "from him in general they have never heard a conversation in a raised voice, especially hysterics."

It is added that the Galyaviev family did not experience material difficulties.

From the statement of relatives:

Maybe it's influence from a computer or from some sect. But this is some other person, not our Ilnaz.

Against this background, the following fact attracts attention: Galyaviev walked to the school, not hiding from anyone and carrying in his hands the very carbine from which he later shot (he bought it not in Kazan, but Yoshkar-Ola). While driving, he met several people who did not react at all to a man moving in a black cloak and mask along the street with weapons in hand. Fear or banal indifference? But tell any of the passers-by to the police about, to put it mildly, a strange man with a carbine, the tragedy could have been avoided.

After the terrorist attack in Kazan, discussions began again about toughening the rules for registering weapons, or about strengthening security in schools and kindergartens. The main question is, why are these conversations going on only after such tragic events? Why are the appropriate measures not taken regardless of the terrorist attacks?
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  1. BAI
    BAI 12 May 2021 08: 31
    -5
    he was calm and not aggressive.

    A campaign to excuse a killer begins? It is necessary to shoot immediately, and not to draw up a psychological portrait.
    1. Volodin
      Volodin 12 May 2021 08: 33
      +26
      Quote: BAI
      A campaign to excuse a killer begins?

      Well, hardly the same. In general, I wonder who is going to excuse him? .. He is not even a killer, he is a terrorist. And for the law, one hell of a "calm" or "restless" terrorist was before committing a crime
      1. Vladimir_2U
        Vladimir_2U 12 May 2021 09: 01
        +9
        The terrorist himself, 8 minutes after the shooting began at the school, left the building and surrendered to the police.
        Needless to say, what kind of scum ?! To give this to the parents of the children, the least he deserves!
        1. KAV
          KAV 12 May 2021 09: 21
          +7
          I suppose that he decided to stupidly undermine the insane during interrogation. Nothing, it will quickly split. Will rot in stricter.
        2. Sandor Clegane
          Sandor Clegane 12 May 2021 09: 36
          +2
          Quote: Vladimir_2U
          To give this to the parents of the children, the least he deserves!

          and before that, castrate with blunt scissors without anesthesia angry
      2. Serg koma
        Serg koma 12 May 2021 10: 00
        -4
        Quote: Volodin
        He's not even a killer, he's a terrorist.

        terrorism is the achievement of political, religious and economic goals through violent actions and intimidation of the population.

        Obviously, it does not fit the qualification of "terrorist".
      3. NDR-791
        NDR-791 12 May 2021 10: 49
        +5
        Quote: Volodin
        He's not even a killer, he's a terrorist.

        One small clarification - the case was initiated under the article "murder of two or more persons in a generally dangerous way." As I believe, the authorities are NOT talking about terrorism yet. They will talk about retraining only after a psychological examination. But here ... if they are recognized as sane, they will kill two birds with one stone - 1. otmazhut psychiatrist who signed the certificate to him. 2. will be re-qualified as terrorism, because the people demand that and the requirements are clear.
    2. antivirus
      antivirus 12 May 2021 08: 38
      -17%
      if the stars light up, then someone needs it ......................................... .................................................. ......
    3. Doccor18
      Doccor18 12 May 2021 08: 38
      +9
      Yes, not, as practice shows, such are almost always recognized as sane. So, nothing but life expectancy awaits him.
      1. Shkworen
        Shkworen 12 May 2021 09: 32
        0
        life-long thing for him.
        https://sen-semilia.livejournal.com/1579738.html
        there he will pray for death.
        1. Victor_B
          Victor_B 12 May 2021 10: 15
          +2
          Quote: Shkworen
          life-long thing for him.

          How kind you are!
          It's a child! (from)
      2. dimy44
        dimy44 12 May 2021 09: 48
        0
        I think that even a deranged fate will not be better.
    4. Finches
      Finches 12 May 2021 09: 14
      -11%
      Too many available weapons in the country have become, but abnormal, calm or not calm, there have always been enough! Three years ago in Kerch, such a young paranoid, staged a massacre, so what? in fact, the office for the distribution of weapons permits, the responsible and controlling organizations scratched themselves? Not! Weapons, exclusively to hunters to sell, and even those who are already over 30!
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 12 May 2021 09: 27
        +11
        Quote: Finches
        Too many weapons available in the country have become

        It's absolutely not about weapons. As practice shows, no less people are cut with knives.
        The only thing that I would change is the age of obtaining permits - 21 years. And the responsibility of the persons issuing permits should definitely be increased several times.
        1. Finches
          Finches 12 May 2021 09: 38
          -5
          With a knife, he would not have cut so much ... It is clear that evil is in a person, not in a weapon! But to readily available weapons, it is easy enough for too many people who have a lot of evil in them!
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 12 May 2021 10: 45
            +9
            Quote: Finches
            With a knife he wouldn't cut so much ...

            I will argue. A person trained to work with a knife in a confined space will cut more. Believe me, I know what I'm talking about. And there will be less noise.
            1. Finches
              Finches 12 May 2021 10: 49
              +2
              Trained can and will cut, but there are very few of them!
              1. 2 Level Advisor
                2 Level Advisor 12 May 2021 15: 29
                +3
                that is, if "only" 3-4 corpses with a knife - is it not scary? or not even corpses but simply cut? Eugene, not in whose weapon they killed the case, but in the event and why it became possible and how to avoid it ..
                1. Finches
                  Finches 12 May 2021 15: 43
                  -4
                  I answered this question - to toughen arms sales, to carry out total checks of all its owners and to withdraw from half (if not more).
                  1. Free Island
                    Free Island 12 May 2021 16: 02
                    +3
                    Withdraw on what grounds? Apparently, you have exactly the same mentality and intellect as this Kazan shooter
                    1. Finches
                      Finches 12 May 2021 16: 38
                      +1
                      What has grown has grown! laughing
                  2. Podvodnik
                    Podvodnik 12 May 2021 16: 15
                    +7
                    ... toughen up


                    What a simple solution!

                    Colonel Zakharchenko found a truck of dough: search all colonels and go to jail

                    A major of the Ministry of Internal Affairs in the store killed people from the service "Makarov": all the Ministry of Internal Affairs to the wall.

                    Federation Council member arrested for bribes: disperse the entire council, hang everyone

                    A member of the government was arrested for taking bribes: the entire government is in the Kolyma.

                    The vocational school in Kerch shot the students: all the vocational school students to hard labor.

                    One of them shot the school: to search all the hunters, to confiscate the weapons.

                    How simple: time! And you're done.

                    Or it could be even simpler: he opened his mouth, suggested events that were not provided with either resources, or calculations, or common sense, to remove from office for discrediting and to be janitors.
                    Though the streets will be cleaner. May be.
                    1. Thompson
                      Thompson 13 May 2021 14: 40
                      0
                      You forgot to add everyone named Zyablitsev to the list.
                      Check everyone and condemn half of them laughing
                  3. Reserve buildbat
                    Reserve buildbat 12 May 2021 17: 15
                    +2
                    And nothing that kills not a weapon, but a man? In this case, it is necessary to check those who issued the permit.
                  4. CYM
                    CYM 12 May 2021 17: 36
                    +1
                    Maybe the authorities and the "public" should look for a change where they lost, and not where it is light? IMHO It is urgent to restore the system of compulsory state mental health care. All persons showing mental deviations are compulsorily examined, dangerous to be placed on treatment, not dangerous to be registered. Now it is extremely difficult to place for treatment, or put on record in the PND, even an obvious dangerous psycho, without his consent. Do not issue a weapon permit (in general) to persons who have not served in the army. Why do pacifists and deviators need weapons?
        2. Incvizitor
          Incvizitor 12 May 2021 12: 28
          +2
          It is necessary to cover up all this Western lies and propaganda, there was no such filth in the Union and there were no such cases in the same way.
          1. Podvodnik
            Podvodnik 13 May 2021 21: 03
            -2
            ... there was no such filth in the Union


            It was worse:
            -trakt in the Moscow metro
            - shooting the guard on the train (Sakalauskas)
            -the hijacking of the plane muses. group "Seven Simeons" - even children participated!
            - hijacking a plane to Turkey (killed the flight attendant, injured the pilot)
            - the criminal situation in Kazan, when they fought almost 200 to 200.

            They simply did not shout about this on the first button every day, and the "Skabeyevs" were not allowed to approach the microphone a kilometer away.
        3. Max otto
          Max otto 12 May 2021 13: 08
          +3
          Quote: Finches
          Too many available weapons in the country have become ... Weapons, exclusively to hunters to sell, and even those who are already over 30!

          Quote: Ingvar 72
          It's absolutely not about weapons. As practice shows, no less people are cut with knives. The only thing that I would change is the age of obtaining permits - 21 years. And the responsibility of the persons issuing permits should definitely be increased several times.


          The first thing that really burned me was that not a single bastard reacted on the street. He walked openly with weapons. Not a single call to the police. And then these ** oshniki yell: where are the guards, the National Guard, Putin?
          So it's not about weapons and age. It's about people, the mentality is ...
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 12 May 2021 13: 21
            +5
            Quote: Max Otto
            mentality like that.

            For that fought for it and ran. The cult of consumerism and selfishness has been cultivated for 30 years. No morality, morality, ideology.
            And then we blame the mentality. And it's not at all about him. If you cultivate weeds purposefully, then you should not be surprised that there is only one weed around.
            1. Max otto
              Max otto 12 May 2021 13: 28
              -2
              What are 30 years old? In the USSR, it seemed like it was different. To be indignant and demand justice in the USSR was - zapadlo (in which word, there are direct traces of that way of life) it was called "knocking". And now no one wanted to knock.
              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 12 May 2021 14: 56
                +1
                Quote: Max Otto
                it was called "knocking".

                I do not mean it. The reasons for the crime are deeper, and I'm talking about them.
                And yes, it was different in the USSR.
          2. Reserve buildbat
            Reserve buildbat 12 May 2021 17: 18
            +1
            And what have people to do with it? What to react to? Maybe this is an airsoft player, or is he just an MMG or an oholoschenka? Approach and interrogate? And who would have called, but what's the point? They would say, as usual: "no body - no work. They will kill, then come."
          3. polar fox
            polar fox 13 May 2021 07: 51
            -4
            Quote: Max Otto
            The first thing that really burned me was that not a single bastard reacted on the street. He walked openly with weapons. Not a single call to the police.

            so he is not a grandmother in a magnet without a muzzle, so the policemen did not climb, it is dangerous, however.
          4. Thompson
            Thompson 13 May 2021 14: 45
            +1
            It would hardly change anything. They would check the weapon and find out that it is legal.
            We would apologize for the trouble and let go.
            The hunter himself. I have a weapon. And if suddenly I go with him and everyone sees me as a terrorist ... And sometimes I have to go around the city.
            Half of the passers-by have black clothes, and masks ... we have to wear because of the pandemic.
            In short ... it wasn't about the bobbin.
          5. Podvodnik
            Podvodnik 13 May 2021 21: 13
            0
            no bastard reacted on the street


            At school in the distant 80s, along with a classmate, I walked down the street with a Kalashnikov assault rifle. Training, drilled, etc. But none of the passers-by knew this. On behalf of the military commander, we went to the local recreation center for military sports events. Nobody cares. No one tied us up and brought us to the KGB for interrogation.

            And in the case of the shooter, the same story - they just did not pay attention.
      2. 210ox
        210ox 12 May 2021 09: 38
        +8
        I agree with you. However, the indifference of others is striking. Everyone has a phone. One call to the police. Maybe they bought time ..
        1. Finches
          Finches 12 May 2021 09: 45
          +1
          Yes, they do not teach anyone and nothing in schools! In terms of how to act in the event of a fire, terrorist attack. Instead of an incomprehensible BZD, it is necessary to introduce practical training in civil defense and MF, plus military training!
        2. Sahalinets
          Sahalinets 12 May 2021 10: 43
          +6
          Now, if he walked with a placard against Putin, he would be tied up in an instant!
      3. Doccor18
        Doccor18 12 May 2021 09: 38
        +12
        It's hard to say if the only thing is in the weapon ...
        Quote: Finches
        Weapons, exclusively to hunters to sell, and even those who are already over 30!
        If you didn’t hunt until you were 30, then after that it is doubtful that you will become a "zealous hunter". Hunting and the forest is a love that fascinates from childhood and for life.
        1. Finches
          Finches 12 May 2021 09: 46
          -2
          Here, of course, I exaggerated a little - but even without a ticket it is clear that a hunter is a hunter! But how do psychopaths who only saw the forest in the picture get permission?
      4. Sandor Clegane
        Sandor Clegane 12 May 2021 09: 40
        +9
        Quote: Finches
        Weapons, exclusively to hunters to sell, and even those who are already over 30!


        a hunting ticket is easier to get
        who is over 30? then those who are over 30 should go to the Army too
        it's about upbringing and social activities, boys should want to play football-hockey-volleyball and run after girls, and not hang around at the computer 24 hours a day. there should be and work a program of accessible children's sports - in large quantities
      5. Serg koma
        Serg koma 12 May 2021 10: 04
        +11
        Quote: Finches
        Weapons, exclusively to hunters to sell, and even those who are already over 30!

        And if I do not want to kill representatives of nature, but I love weapons and I like to shoot at targets, skeet, etc., should I also become a hunter?
        1. Finches
          Finches 12 May 2021 10: 06
          -6
          On the shooting range and under supervision!
          1. Serg koma
            Serg koma 12 May 2021 12: 26
            +6
            Quote: Finches
            On the shooting range and under supervision!

            And a shooting gallery behind barbed wire, along the perimeter of a tower with machine guns. Did not hit the target, did not properly prepare, did not present it for inspection, etc. - overhead warning turn, next mistake and for defeat. After that, everyone will learn to love weapons and use them correctly, without violating the Law and without threatening society. laughing
            1. Finches
              Finches 12 May 2021 23: 02
              +2
              You correctly specified this, this is how you need to organize!
        2. Max otto
          Max otto 12 May 2021 23: 36
          0
          Quote: Serg Koma
          And if I do not want to kill representatives of nature, but I love weapons and I like to shoot at targets, skeet, etc., should I also become a hunter?

          Well, yes, what's wrong with that? I am such a hunter. I don't hit the game, only at banks and targets.
      6. DED_peer_DED
        DED_peer_DED 12 May 2021 11: 47
        +10
        He killed an old money-lender with an ax. Banning axes by decree.
        I stabbed a pensioner with a knife. Prohibit knives by decree.
        They hung a comrade in a noose. Prohibit hemp by decree.
        Crushed by a car. To figure out to Zolotov what kind of car (passenger or truck) and, accordingly, to prohibit and withdraw from use all such vehicles in the country in the AP Rosgvardia.
        Poisoned with rat poison. Prohibit veterinary pharmacies and markets.
        Slipped, fell, woke up - plaster ... To forbid citizens to walk the streets, to allow only the guards and the police.
        Introduce a 24/7 curfew across the country due to the foot and mouth disease epidemic and the difficult veterinary situation.
        1. Finches
          Finches 12 May 2021 12: 39
          -2
          There is no need to exaggerate - in this case we are talking about several other things!
      7. antikilller55
        antikilller55 12 May 2021 14: 16
        +4
        That is, I am not a hunter and I don’t sell weapons to defend my house? Hmm, the logic is iron. There is not a lot of weapons, every year there are some prohibitions from which there is zero.
        1. Finches
          Finches 12 May 2021 23: 03
          -1
          In the USSR, minors did not shoot like that .... So there was a lot of prohibition and control!
          1. Max otto
            Max otto 12 May 2021 23: 39
            +3
            My grandfather just hung a gun on the wall, and no one was hysterical;
          2. DED_peer_DED
            DED_peer_DED 13 May 2021 21: 08
            +1
            In the USSR, minors did not shoot like that .... So there was a lot of prohibition and control!

            In the USSR, there were October, Pioneers, Komsomols, Prollenka, Zarnitsa, pioneer camps ...
            There was serious educational work at the School, at the vocational school, at the institute - university ...
            There were lecturers and propagandists, psychologically normal and good, correct films and programs.
            There was an idea and a core.
            There were commandments of the builders of communism.
            There were the first pages of newspapers with the leaders of production, the Union of Artists, the Army and the Navy.
            Instead of the police (protection of settlements) there was the militia (the people's militia) and there were ten times less per capita.
            There was equality and equality, there were no oligarchs and the poor.
            There was work and a large selection of jobs.
            There were trade union committees, local committees, party committees ...
            There was free education for everyone.
            There was free medicine.
            Small nationalities had an advantage when entering universities.
            Means sense ... was!

            And now, he is not. That's the whole difference, how simple ...
    5. vkl.47
      vkl.47 12 May 2021 09: 17
      -1
      This is a drug "salt."
    6. knn54
      knn54 12 May 2021 11: 37
      +2
      I don't want to think about IS, Jehovah's Witnesses and other zombie sects.
      As a child, I heard a wonderful phrase from an old Jew:
      "Not every mother will discern a scoundrel in her son, but every mother in a scoundrel recognizes her son" ...
    7. Achilles
      Achilles 12 May 2021 15: 10
      +2
      Quote: BAI
      You must shoot immediately

      Now another wave has risen on the topic of the introduction of the death penalty. Let's be without emotion and reason. To scare the suicide bomber with the death penalty is to make him laugh. It is already demoralized, it was going to die and is ready for this. that is, this method cannot be used to defeat the terrorist.
      A suicide (who goes to shoot and commit suicide) threatens to be shot - to ease his fate, if you want to remove, so to speak, sin with his nasty little soul: he has already overcome the fear of death, overcame the strongest instinct for self-preservation. Ie this scum will not stop the psychic electric chair.
      Serial killers and psychopaths are mental patients, but they will kill for the rest of their lives, but their death will not be an obstacle for other serial killers - they are crazy, they are driven by other instincts and reflexes. That is, by executing one, we will not stop the other, although we will save tens and hundreds of innocent lives.
      Execute corrupt persons. Well, they are being executed in China, and why are they stealing less? If the embezzlers were brought out, then there would be no one to execute, and they are being executed to this day, which means that the capital measure does not work. I'm not talking now about miscarriages of justice and commercial justice, which can be a way to deal with unwanted characters. I mean that there is no need to speculate on this topic, there is no need to engage in populism, we need to ask our dear deputies, especially during the pre-election race. Make sure that the laws in the country are implemented, and the structures designed to monitor the implementation of the legislation and ensure our safety finally work, you have the mechanisms. Take responsibility for your own initiatives. Then it will not be scary to let the children go to school and the electorate will reach out to you.
  2. salad
    salad 12 May 2021 08: 32
    +9
    Put him on life, and torture the dog 24/7 his whole filthy life until he drives away!
    1. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 12 May 2021 08: 54
      +1
      If "Strict" mode ..... then it will be so. Camera - single, mode.
      1. 210ox
        210ox 12 May 2021 09: 39
        +2
        Yes, and walk with cancer for the rest of my life.
        1. boni592807
          boni592807 12 May 2021 16: 07
          0
          The key word is LIFE. Anything, soldering and a camera, security - incl. for the money (taxes) of the parents of the victims. And mowing like a fool is an old and sometimes successful form of stay LIVE. And what will happen tomorrow, in a year, etc. nobody knows.
    2. urik62
      urik62 12 May 2021 08: 57
      +8
      What does the dog have to do with it? Many dogs are much better than some people.
      1. Podvodnik
        Podvodnik 13 May 2021 21: 22
        +1
        . Many


        Many? Not. EVERYTHING! They do not hesitate to die, saving the owner. Rather, there is no creature. Recently on TV the plot was shown - some little girl, without hesitation, rushed to the wolf, saving the child. Sacrificed herself.
  3. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 12 May 2021 08: 33
    +3
    "We didn't even hear him raise his voice": family members told about the terrorist Galyaviev
    fool fool fool Family members and the like ..... For deeds, it is rewarded, not for voice. And there was a voice, only an inner one:
    that he "is God" and that "everyone should acknowledge themselves as his slaves"
  4. APASUS
    APASUS 12 May 2021 08: 37
    +15
    After the terrorist attack in Kazan, discussions began again about tightening the rules for registering weapons,

    Why is it so easy to buy? It is not at all simple, another thing is that everything is for sale. Galyaviev himself said that he had bought the certificate for 500 rubles.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 12 May 2021 08: 54
      +7
      Quote: APASUS
      .Galyaviev himself said that he bought the certificate for 500 rubles.

      The one who sold the certificate should be in the dock.
      I think that in order to issue such certificates, there must be several commissions, three people each, and they must change places all the time before the meeting, then no one will be able to buy them.
      1. Roman070280
        Roman070280 12 May 2021 12: 55
        -5
        I think that for the issuance of such certificates, there should be several commissions, three people each, and they must change all the time seats before the meeting, then no one will be able to buy them.


        There are a lot of things that need to change in our country ..
        However, people grow so attached to money and armchairs that it is impossible to change anything ..
    2. Baloo
      Baloo 12 May 2021 09: 44
      +6
      Quote: APASUS
      After the terrorist attack in Kazan, discussions began again about tightening the rules for registering weapons,

      Why is it so easy to buy? It is not at all simple, another thing is that everything is for sale. Galyaviev himself said that he had bought the certificate for 500 rubles.

      An unemployed psycho student gets a hunting ticket in February, a license in April, goes to Yoshkar-Ola 200 km from Kazan, buys a pump-action shotgun with a butt unfastened, 350 (!!!) cartridges. Where does the money come from! Yesterday, on all channels and local footage, he walks all in black and in a mask past adults, waves his hand to someone and no one is worried! sad
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 12 May 2021 10: 00
        +2
        Quote: Balu
        Unemployed student psycho

        Judging by the way he surrendered himself, it is unlikely that he is crazy, the action is deliberate
        Quote: Balu
        receives a hunting ticket in February, a license in April

        How he gets it, for money or whatever, there will be questions ...............
        Quote: Balu
        Where does the money come from!

        The son is not from the poorest family, they have already told everyone, you just listened.
        Quote: Balu
        Yesterday, on all channels and local footage, he walks all in black and in a mask past adults, waves his hand to someone and no one is worried!

        Here are questions for law enforcement agencies, work on educating young people, the ideology of our state at the end, the influence of the Internet ....................
        1. Baloo
          Baloo 12 May 2021 10: 08
          0
          Judging by the way he surrendered himself, it is unlikely that he is crazy, the action is deliberate
          Paranoid people can be surprisingly consistent, methodical, purposeful up to a certain point.
          1. APASUS
            APASUS 12 May 2021 15: 29
            +3
            Quote: Balu
            Paranoid people can be surprisingly consistent, methodical, purposeful up to a certain point.

            So far, nothing paranoid is visible, except megalomania. Everything else suggests that a person has been consciously preparing for more than one month and even his walk with a gun is more like working for the public, which is now called a hype! There is no paranoid achievement of the goal, there is more a desire for fame and a completely conscious ...........
          2. sharp-lad
            sharp-lad 12 May 2021 22: 40
            0
            Paranoid people can be surprisingly consistent, methodical, purposeful up to a certain point.
            After the onset of this moment, the paranokas become even more consistent, methodical, purposeful. hi from paranoid. But if you know about your superiority, then you can easily restrain it within the permissible limits.
      2. boni592807
        boni592807 12 May 2021 16: 26
        0
        Baloo (Baloo, just Baloo), Today, 09:44, NEW -
        Quote: APASUS
        After the terrorist attack in Kazan, discussions began again about tightening the rules for registering weapons,
        Why is it so easy to buy? It is not at all simple, another thing is that everything is for sale. Galyaviev himself said that he had bought the certificate for 500 rubles.


        An unemployed psycho student gets a hunting ticket in February, a license in April, goes to Yoshkar-Ola 200 km from Kazan, buys a pump-action shotgun with a butt unfastened, 350 (!!!) cartridges. Where does the money come from! Yesterday, on all channels and local footage, he walks all in black and in a mask past adults, waves his hand to someone and no one is worried!

        To the one you listed hi , add more:
        - atOpportunity - to communicate and receive any information via the Internet. See Crimea, incl. recently youngsters after processing and essentially recruiting by the Nazis Oh, krains with very similar plans bully .
        - In the absence of ideology, education and schwaboda from everything with indifference at all. Corruption and corruption... With regular meetings on the trend, instead of realizing the main reasons, which were listed not only in this discussion. ... Until the next (God forbid) "accident" ....?
        And so the performer - "quiet boy - all in the computer." fool ..
  5. nikon7717
    nikon7717 12 May 2021 08: 42
    +3
    He had a weapon. Issued officially. Issuance is carried out after receiving a certificate of a medical examination by a psychologist about a normal condition. Since there was a weapon, and his, then this hobby is either hunting in the family, or other goals, but what? And the family did not know, they indulged everything?
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 12 May 2021 09: 09
      +7
      Quote: nikon7717
      Issuance is carried out after receiving a certificate of a medical examination by a psychologist about a normal condition.

      In Soviet times, I decided to join a hunting club (you can't buy a gun without a club), for this I had to go hunting without a weapon, and three months later, when three hunters gave me a recommendation, I joined the club. The club bought the gun and ammunition (the gun was kept in the club), underwent training in the use of weapons and the rules of hunting, only after that they were allowed to hunt, but accompanied by one of the hunters. The gun was issued for the duration of the hunt, and only two years later I received a hunting ticket, with permission to keep the gun at home in a safe.
      For two years they watched me and assessed my psychological state, although before that I already had a hunting ticket issued in the RSFSR, but living in the ESSR I must get a ticket according to the rules of the ESSR Ministry of Internal Affairs.
      1. Silinvv
        Silinvv 12 May 2021 09: 28
        +2
        A terrible tragedy. I feel sorry for the kids and teachers. But again, the tragedy is used to toughen something. A drunken Efremov caused an accident, the punishment for drunkenness is being tightened. At the same time, 7,6% of all accidents happen due to the fault of drunkards (it is not necessary to say that accidents are worse, sober ones arrange accidents much more terrible). In Russia, 3,9 million people have civilian weapons. The actions of the 1st led to a tragedy in Kazan. The reason for buying the certificate is because everything is complicated anyway. But if the short-barreled population was allowed, then with a high degree of probability, the teachers themselves could fend off this bastard. The rest of the man with the carbine can only run away. This is just a skew of the system. The population does not have the opportunity to defend itself in such cases, and simply because of crime. Maybe, of course, I'm wrong.
        Condolences to the families of the victims!
    2. Baloo
      Baloo 12 May 2021 09: 46
      +1
      Quote: nikon7717
      Issuance is carried out after receiving a certificate of a medical examination by a psychologist about a normal condition

      It is clear that the examination by a psychiatrist must go under the video recording, any, especially the commission one. But this is contrary to the Mental Health Care Act. Here is such a paradox, an amendment to the law on psychiatric care is needed. sad
      1. g1v2
        g1v2 12 May 2021 11: 42
        +2
        You represent the psychiatrist as some kind of telepathic person. Psychiatrists act according to guidelines and procedures, assessing the mental state. If a person was not registered and does not let foam from his mouth, then the examination is a formality. To understand what a person has inside, a psychiatrist needs to work with him for months. This ghoul obviously did not behave like that at the psychiatrist's appointment. Most likely he was modest and charming. Much has been written on the Internet on how to behave at an appointment with a psychiatrist. request Even his parents didn’t notice anything, but this state must have been developed for him for years. And then if he really went, and does not pretend to go to the psychiatric hospital. In fact, it was necessary to bring it down right on the spot. He probably won't tell the investigators anything interesting.
        1. Konnick
          Konnick 12 May 2021 11: 51
          +1
          When a person takes up arms, he changes, let's remember the American film "I've had enough" with Michael Douglas. Thanks to the gun lobby, smooth-bore weapons have become available in Russia to everyone who has a health certificate from a mental hospital, and earlier it was possible to buy a gun only to members of hunting societies, after recommendations and a probationary period. Well, everyone knows how to get a certificate.
  6. Sidor Amenpodestovich
    Sidor Amenpodestovich 12 May 2021 08: 43
    +5
    I would, in the place of the authorities, by order banned any mention of this bastard in the media. But no. "Relatives told ... the former teacher told ... the neighbor told ..." On TV for a week, if not more, they will now chew and chew.
    I don't care a hundred million times what this scum was. Exclude from the life of society, and not make another Herostratus.
    1. Volodin
      Volodin 12 May 2021 08: 45
      +9
      Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
      ordered to ban any mention of this bastard in the media

      You may like it or not like it, but the information space has long ceased to be limited to the media. There are instant messengers, social networks, YouTube and other channels. And modern youth draws the lion's share of information from there. In the end, here it is not necessary to prohibit the mention, but to find out how this could happen at all - so that this does not happen again
    2. Pereira
      Pereira 12 May 2021 08: 53
      +5
      Then bring the thought to the end - remove all negativity from the media and show only good news. And for reporting a drunk traffic accident, for example, to plant the person reporting.
      1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
        Sidor Amenpodestovich 12 May 2021 12: 50
        -2
        Quote: Pereira
        Then bring the thought to the end - remove all negativity from the media and show only good news. And for reporting a drunk traffic accident, for example, to plant the person reporting.

        What you wrote about is not bringing the thought to the end, but bringing it to the point of absurdity.
        Of course, incidents, especially such egregious ones, must be reported. But why smear yourself on "how he lived, with whom he was friends" and the like, unnecessary details?
        Now you have learned what his former teacher thinks about this fanatic. And what did it give you?
        1. Pereira
          Pereira 12 May 2021 12: 55
          +3
          What did it give me? Understanding that tomorrow anyone can be in the gun.
          1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
            Sidor Amenpodestovich 12 May 2021 13: 26
            +1
            Quote: Pereira
            What did it give me? Understanding that tomorrow anyone can be in the gun.

            Did the previous episodes of shooting in Russia give you such an understanding?
            1. Pereira
              Pereira 12 May 2021 13: 45
              0
              We were all convinced that this was an accident.
              1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
                Sidor Amenpodestovich 12 May 2021 13: 48
                +1
                Quote: Pereira
                We were all convinced that this was an accident.

                I don’t remember that someone, someone convinced of something, but even if this is so, it turns out that you succumbed to propaganda?
                1. Pereira
                  Pereira 12 May 2021 13: 59
                  0
                  Personally, I don’t. I have not been fond of propaganda for a long time. You can't turn the minced meat back. But many people watch TV. And every day.
    3. Egoza
      Egoza 12 May 2021 08: 55
      +1
      Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
      Exclude from the life of society, and not make another Herostratus.

      But maybe people will become more vigilant, not "charmed" by the ordinary "he was a quiet boy"
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 12 May 2021 09: 07
        +2
        Quote: Egoza
        Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
        Exclude from the life of society, and not make another Herostratus.

        But maybe people will become more vigilant, not "charmed" by the ordinary "he was a quiet boy"

        A psychologist should work at school, a district police officer in the yard, as well as a class teacher. Society is not healthy, a lot of psychos stagger along the street and no one cares until such a horror is perpetrated.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 12 May 2021 09: 52
          +5
          Quote: Svarog
          A psychologist should work at school, a district police officer in the yard, as well as a class teacher.

          Learn from Israel's experience.
          In Israel, an order was issued that instructs teachers who have the right to bear arms to come to school in "full combat readiness." For additional protection of nurseries and kindergartens, local authorities have acquired the right to attract girls doing military service and planning to get a teacher's education in the future.
          Heads of educational institutions are also allowed to use "civilian guards" - volunteers licensed to carry weapons to guard schools. In the classroom in Israeli schools, children undergo a special course. Its goal is to teach schoolchildren to act correctly in extreme situations. In Israeli schools, at the entrance, the guards search everyone except students and staff of the educational institution, and also observe the behavior of students through cameras that are installed throughout the educational institution, and in Israeli schools it is forbidden to use a mobile phone, even during breaks.
  7. prior
    prior 12 May 2021 08: 43
    +11
    For 30 years after the collapse of the USSR, no one has ever tested me for sanity.
    And during this time, a lot of things have happened that can go crazy. No.
    One TV with action films and other shows are worth something. negative
    Are there investigators looking for reasons for the behavior of this scumbag? recourse
    Or maybe the reason is not medical at all, but social?
    I am not making excuses for the murderer, I just want this not to happen again. stop
    1. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 12 May 2021 08: 56
      -1
      Do you propose to force everyone to check? A person lives in society ... he goes to the clinic, studies, works. Inadequacy will come out. They will fire, cleanse, take away the rights ... they will prescribe the appropriate pills.
      1. prior
        prior 12 May 2021 09: 04
        +7
        Not. I propose to change the internal social policy.
        Drastically. Turn it to the person not backwards, but in front.
        Prohibitions zadolbali people, and those who publish them outside the law.
        If the last event happened due to the lack of a clear law on weapons, it turns out that the Duma should be chased for such laws.
        1. Zaurbek
          Zaurbek 12 May 2021 09: 10
          +1
          We live in a capitalist country ... this is not real. Rather, it is necessary to introduce (and we are moving towards this rather quickly) recognition by the "Smart City" system of a person with a weapon, tracking him and calling the Police ... Maybe in the area of ​​socially significant objects. And monitoring of sites on nakie topics .... He took an example from someone ... with someone he discussed these topics.
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 12 May 2021 09: 31
            -1
            Quote: Zaurbek
            Rather, it is necessary to introduce (and we are moving towards this rather quickly) recognition according to the "Smart City" system

            Total control? Maybe all the same, a change of ideology?
            1. Zaurbek
              Zaurbek 12 May 2021 09: 33
              -3
              I will disappoint you ...... bring the USSR ideology will be on friendly terms with technology. And control will reach a new level. China is an example.
              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 12 May 2021 10: 43
                -3
                Quote: Zaurbek
                China is an example.

                I agree. But this system in China works for the good of the country, while in our country it will work for the good of a handful of oligarchs.
      2. Doccor18
        Doccor18 12 May 2021 09: 25
        +6
        Quote: Zaurbek
        Inadequacy will come out. They'll fire, cleanse, take away the rights ...

        Unfortunately, it often "crawls out" so that then it takes a long time to "heal wounds and make repairs."
        The problem is that health care has turned from a common good for the population into a "service" that is very often paid for. For a n-th amount, people can buy a medical certificate ... Hundreds of private medical centers provide services for issuing medical certificates for weapons, for obtaining a driver's license. "Fast, inexpensive" - ​​as the ad says. In my opinion, only specialized state (GBUZ) psychiatric, narcological hospitals or dispensaries, and not private medical centers, should be engaged in the issuance of such certificates. But this is a lot of money ... And what is a few human lives in comparison with billions of profits in the country of victorious capitalism ...
      3. Roman070280
        Roman070280 12 May 2021 12: 57
        -6
        Inadequacy will come out

        Well, that "got out" ..
    2. Svarog
      Svarog 12 May 2021 09: 08
      -1
      Quote: prior
      Or maybe the reason is not medical at all, but social?

      I think it's complex. I have never heard of such things in the USSR. Even the thieves had their own rules. Now there is complete chaos in all spheres of life.
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 12 May 2021 09: 43
        +2
        The USSR did not hear a lot of things ..... it was a closed country, without private property. This is immediately minus a huge layer of crimes.
    3. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 12 May 2021 12: 38
      -3
      You and against Russia are often drowning here now, for some reason nobody cares laughing
  8. nikvic46
    nikvic46 12 May 2021 09: 15
    +2
    This is not the first case .. The disease of society is obvious. Too smart people are looking for the cause of this trouble. And during the breaks there is an advertisement with shooting, which is a joy to the flayer. If aggression comes from all the cracks, then there is nothing to expect positive.
  9. Russobel
    Russobel 12 May 2021 09: 17
    0
    Still waters run deep.
  10. Avior
    Avior 12 May 2021 09: 18
    +9
    from what is made public, the reason for his behavior is one - psychiatric deviations.
    Of course, such things must be confirmed by specialists, and there will certainly be an examination.
    In any case, due to the well-known published, there are no other reasons for his action.
    And in this regard, questions arise
    1. How did he pass the medical examination for weapons? It was just recently.
    2. What are the reports about his accomplices shot by law enforcement officers - allegedly one of them is 41 years old, and so on - who do they come from at all?
    3. He bought weapons and a huge amount of ammunition, judging by what they write.
    Why was there no question about buying a huge amount of ammunition?
    Where did he get the money for this? Not that it is very expensive, but also not cheap for a student.
    But tell any of the passers-by to the police about, to put it mildly, a strange man with a carbine, the tragedy could have been avoided.

    But this, in my opinion, does not speak in favor of the police - people did not want to get involved, they see the police not as protection, but as a source of problems for themselves, and they turn only as a last resort.
    Hence the frequent showdown among themselves instead of going to the police.
    hi
    1. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 12 May 2021 09: 44
      -1
      He's probably normal ... just weird. Will be given life - will sit and think. Although the best sentence for these types. Capital measure with deferral.
      1. Avior
        Avior 12 May 2021 09: 49
        +1
        what he did can hardly be called normal
        if he does not have a mental illness, there must be a motive for this, especially since there is no question of any spontaneous decision, he acquired a weapon in advance and prepared explosives.
        The motive has not yet been discerned from what has been made public.
        1. Zaurbek
          Zaurbek 12 May 2021 09: 52
          -1
          There are no lonely people ..... just some kind of "strangeness" - conditionally - normal ... and some kind of medicine has already recognized "Not normal" ...... Over there, a lot of people get into the sects ... and I had two comrades there they taught English for free in the 90s
          1. Avior
            Avior 12 May 2021 10: 45
            -1
            Conventionally normal weirdness, expressed in murders, can hardly be called normal.

            And a sect with some kind of attitudes is already a motive
            1. Zaurbek
              Zaurbek 12 May 2021 10: 47
              -2
              Conditionally normal can be expressed in different ways ...... it is important that it is Normal and does not get sweat, medicinal treatment and is suitable for all businesses.
    2. Antidote
      Antidote 12 May 2021 10: 26
      +2
      1. Nothing. He bought a certificate
      2. Fake News
      3. You can go around a bunch of stores and buy several packs of cartridges in each, this will not cause any suspicion. And even stretch it out for several days. Money can be saved if there is a goal.
      1. Avior
        Avior 12 May 2021 10: 51
        -1
        1. There should be criminal liability for complicity for such leftist certificates or a report from the district
        2 question is from what source?
        3 you can. But I read I bought in one at a time
        And there is no problem to enter reporting with a record in the insert about the amount purchased, but better in the online database. So that suspicious purchases can be identified.
        1. Antidote
          Antidote 12 May 2021 11: 13
          +2
          1. Who is responsible? Who sold the certificate? Or who accepted it without verification?
          2. Fear has big eyes. Some schoolgirl, under the impression, told about the "explosions" in her tiktok, and now the second Beslan was promoted.
          3. I want to become a well-aimed hunter, so I'm buying a mountain of cartridges for training, and in stock, suddenly the price will rise. Where is the line?
          1. Avior
            Avior 12 May 2021 17: 07
            +1
            1 responsibility of the one who contributed to the clearance of weapons in violation
            2 more specifically, who?
            3 I do not propose to prohibit the purchase, but such actions are a reason for increased attention and control
  11. vitvit123
    vitvit123 12 May 2021 09: 32
    +3
    My daughter is in the 6th grade .. she says in her class, one of the boys thinks Hitler is very good, and so on ... here's the situation, it turns out who is to blame for this situation? .. parents? .. and if parents, then this is society, i.e. are we with you? ..
    1. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 12 May 2021 09: 54
      +2
      This is due to a lack of information ...... when the topic was rocked with Navalny, the entire children's Internet was washed with advertising. A nephew from the 7th grade came and said - Putin is a thief. You didn't know ??? !!
      1. vitvit123
        vitvit123 12 May 2021 11: 55
        0
        So your nephew got the information? .. just the question is what ..
        1. Zaurbek
          Zaurbek 12 May 2021 11: 57
          +1
          Not my nephew, but all the children ... on my TV ... (my children are 2-5-11 years old) on YouTube and the selection always matches ... at that moment it is in it that videos on Navalny and calls for rallies themselves appeared in the recommended
          1. vitvit123
            vitvit123 12 May 2021 12: 23
            0
            Well, you cited a nephew as an example, I asked ... well, let it be without a nephew .., it turns out the children receive information? The question is what ..
            1. Zaurbek
              Zaurbek 12 May 2021 12: 28
              0
              Yes, they receive and are in groups ...
              1. vitvit123
                vitvit123 12 May 2021 12: 30
                0
                In the first comment, you wrote that this is due to a lack of information .. now you say that they receive information ...
          2. Incvizitor
            Incvizitor 12 May 2021 12: 42
            0
            It is for such posts, articles and calls should be responsible and serious.
  12. Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 12 May 2021 09: 32
    +2
    Galyaviev's completely incomprehensible change in behavior from January to May ... It is necessary to study in detail every day of his life during this period.
    Why did he have a motive to kill children?
    Where did such a hysterical hatred for those around him come from, which tore his tower.?
    1. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 12 May 2021 11: 58
      0
      Now the young people are closed ... they are not Cossacks-robbers playing and fighting at school, but sitting on phones. Then they grow up ..
  13. svoit
    svoit 12 May 2021 09: 43
    +1
    Quote: BAI
    and not a psychological portrait of

    drawing up such a portrait in the future will make it possible to identify such personalities in advance
  14. Aleks2048
    Aleks2048 12 May 2021 09: 45
    +6
    The case is, of course, outrageous.
    However, this is
    After the terrorist attack in Kazan, discussions began again about toughening the rules for registering weapons, then about strengthening security in schools and kindergartens.

    will give absolutely nothing.
    By the way, what about the terrorist attack? But this is so by the way ... In the legal sense - a banal murder with aggravated ones.
    Strengthening security at school and kindergarten? Seriously?! Complete nonsense. From such even loners, I'm not talking about a deliberate attack by a group on a school or kindergarten, it is necessary for protection, not so that a fat-ass, gluttonous lazy chopovtsy sit, but at least two, but better, more professional people who are right from the threshold of the children's institution right in the forehead each incoming will be poked with a barrel further on a faceless corridor in which a full-fledged inspection yes, it is an inspection, and not just a superficial inspection, passage along the corridor strictly one by one and only in one direction, all other entrances and exits are closed and not just a wooden, normal metal door , the windows of the first two floors are covered with bars. Are you ready for the fact that every trip to your child's school a stranger will point the barrel in the face while the other examines it? And without this, there is no way to protect yourself from loners. To defend against a group attack, the means must be even steeper. Are you ready to turn a children's institution into a bastion, to make children not come to the windows? And a physical education lesson on skis may not take place at all, or a teacher with a dog and a mine detector is ahead, and after him, without straying into groups of more than two, a whole class of talents of future Olympic champions only in armored vehicles and helmets.
    The maximum of a school security guard should be able to drive drunken juvenile hooligans out of the school yard, take out his parent who is overly worried about his Einstein's successes. And in case of inability to do it yourself, press the help button. Sorry, but this is his limit. And in general, this is an adequate limit for the defense of a children's institution.
    The sale of arms to private hands must necessarily be. And although I am an opponent of the free circulation of weapons, even to me, some of the attachments in the current system seem to be complete madness.
    From the above, some may decide that I am proposing to give up and do nothing. This is not true.
    There is a system that is able to solve problems with the protection of children's institutions, and not only them (there are hospitals, metro stations, nursing homes, cinemas, large shopping centers, railway and air stations and many other things). And the system is surprisingly simple better than a person himself, no one can cut off oxygen for this person. Walls in the head in consciousness are always much more difficult to overcome than any physical wall. We need a normal state ideology, a normal state policy in the upbringing of an individual exactly what is needed. Yes, it is expensive, but it is cheaper, and most importantly more efficient than turning a school into a fortress. In addition, normal ideology has only an indirect application in the field of security, this is just one of its positive aspects.
  15. svoit
    svoit 12 May 2021 09: 54
    0
    Quote: Pereira
    Then bring the thought to the end - remove all negativity from the media.

    It was rather about the fact that too close attention of the media can unwittingly heroize them in the eyes of some personalities.
  16. eleronn
    eleronn 12 May 2021 10: 18
    +2
    While the killer wrote in Telegram that he would kill, the "E" center fled to a meeting of political activists, which was organized by a 17-year-old girl from the Leningrad region
    Her name is Daria Heikinen. She organized a meeting of political activists on the Champ de Mars. We discussed human rights in Russia.

    The police and employees of the “E” center showed up for the meeting, and Daria’s parents were summoned to the FSB.

    These are the priorities of the Putin authorities. It's a complete, utter disgrace
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 12 May 2021 10: 39
      -2
      Are you encouraging this Heikinen to undermine the foundations of the state?
      Immediately you can see the stench from the side, they must have mixed in a bunch of the FSB, employees of the Center E, political activists, parents, human rights, a meeting on the Champ de Mars, priorities, Putin's shame
      Whose will you be, whom do you represent?
    2. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 12 May 2021 12: 46
      0
      Here is an example of a washed-out one, living in Russia under Putin is bad, and there is no point in living, then you have to kill, shoot to destroy the country, until all this Western propaganda starts to seriously cheat and processed sociopaths-misanthropists will breed.
  17. Antidote
    Antidote 12 May 2021 10: 37
    -1
    There are several reasons for them
    1. It all starts with family and culture, but our Duma members have perverted the law on domestic violence as best they could. And 4.5% of GDP for selovniki and 1% for culture and education seem to hint at priorities.
    2.people completely lack the ability to self-defense
    3. The venality of regulators of all levels, from a certificate for a weapon to the 20th article of the UN convention.
  18. BISMARCK94
    BISMARCK94 12 May 2021 10: 38
    +6
    Again "klyatiy komputer". Kindergarten arguments. So the best soldiers are programmers. After coding in java, they will take Poland alone.
    Children are very sorry, this bastard on the gallows. And the authorities are again "fighting in the wrong direction."
    Do you know what is the saddest thing? That the National Guard responds to rallies more quickly than to a kid with a shotgun walking down the street.
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 12 May 2021 11: 00
      +1
      Why did those who saw this kid with a weapon overweight not call the Russian Guard or the police at least?
      Again, the security forces are to blame?
      Is Putin again to blame?
      Anyone is to blame, but not us.
      1. Alexander 3
        Alexander 3 12 May 2021 11: 25
        +2
        That's all right, if he was stopped on the street and began to wonder where and where with a weapon. Maybe he would not get to school. Well, on the street they would have dealt with him faster.
      2. Incvizitor
        Incvizitor 12 May 2021 12: 49
        0
        At the age of 19, they can run with toy weapons, if you want to be different, they give permission early from the age of 15.
  19. Bomb
    Bomb 12 May 2021 11: 24
    -4
    Galyaviev walked to the school, not hiding from anyone and carrying in his hands the same carbine, from which he subsequently fired
    and the law enforcement bodies at that time were busy detaining a grandmother with a stolen loaf from Pyaterochka ...
  20. Tests
    Tests 12 May 2021 11: 39
    +3
    And for some reason no one remembered that in many cities millions of rubles were laundered for the installation of street video cameras within the framework of the Safe City project. In Kazan, as far as I know, there are cameras in the streets - a cart and a small cart. And? ... About the fact that this utyrok was walking along the street with a gun and no one typed "112" they have already written many, many times. And the district police officers and PAPP inspectors were reduced in Kazan to the optimal level, and the traffic police and the PPS? Isn't it funny that the head of the FSB reports to the President about the incident? And what does the minister of the Ministry of Internal Affairs receive money for? And the Russian Guard? After all, the National Guard arrived at the signal of the panic button first ... To strengthen the security of schools and kindergartens - complete nonsense! Why not strengthen the security immediately on the list: antenatal clinics, maternity hospitals, children's clinics and hospitals, nurseries, colleges, universities, registry offices, industrial enterprises, veterans' councils, funeral homes and morgues? Kerch and shooting at not Any place of mass gathering of people is a potential place for a terrorist attack. If stations and airports are badly guarded, then small stations ...
    1. Bomb
      Bomb 12 May 2021 11: 53
      -1
      Everything is correct. You pay your taxes on time. The rest is not your nose business =)
  21. ALEKSEY
    ALEKSEY 12 May 2021 11: 49
    +1
    The incident is unfortunate. There is essentially no point in commenting on it. I'm talking about something else (now, probably, I will inadvertently insult everyone). It is sad that you and I are rams in deep sleep. They made a loud event for us with the victims, with emotions. Further, he is actively sucked in all the media and social networks, in order to form certain conclusions and opinions in society. And then, on the prepared soil, pre-prepared tools (laws, restrictions, rules ...) will be introduced. Possible topics that will be raised as a result of the terrorist attack: 1) Promotion of distance education. Pus it is detrimental to the education and development of a person, but it is "safe" and controllable 2) Organization of a safety circuit in schools, kindergartens, clubs. Not by the forces of the National Guard or private security companies - neither people, nor forces, nor funds will be enough for this, but technical means. They will hang cameras with biometrics everywhere, assign tags to children, and so on. They will restrict parents' access to schools (which has already been partially done under the sauce of covid quarantines. Development of the topic of controlling human movement during quarantines and curfews. 3) Launch of social rating of children. Will give them 3 colors. Green (loyal), yellow (requiring correction), red - dangerous for society (for the system). Again, all for the sake of our "safety". 4) Cleaning the population of weapons. Unlike the states, there is not a lot of it on hand, but it can create difficulties in establishing a new order of control over the population and managing its actions. By the way, the cleaning process in one way or another is now being launched all over the world in almost all countries. As well as updating the regulatory framework in terms of increasing the powers of the police and security forces (police state). Of course, there are still tasks following the terrorist attack, but so far they are not obvious to me. Many will say that our state (rulers) does not need everything. But these rulers are not united, they perform different tasks. Someone is really a patriot-statesman, while others have their bosses over the hill. In general, a fairly mature tool. Like September 11 - They made a pretext for bringing troops into Iraq. Like the strangulation of blacks in the states - a pretext for discrediting institutions in the United States. Etc. It's just that the scales are different everywhere.
  22. Tests
    Tests 12 May 2021 11: 50
    0
    My computer has gone awry ... Kerch and the shooting in it we remember. A kindergarten in Naryan-mar and a fool with a knife, remember, was there a guard? This is to questions about what people kill more often in Russia, about the quality of security, about strengthening control measures over the legal circulation of hunting weapons ... Victory Day and about the war, the lesson is over, a normal girl from a normal family comes up and asks: "I didn't understand, but in 5 we fought with whom?" ...
  23. Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart 12 May 2021 12: 18
    +2
    Yesterday, at night, a storm arose about this - here both Putin announced the need to tighten the legislation, and Volodin proposed eliminating anonymity on the Internet, etc.
    What can I say here? Suppose okay, everything is done - limited, tightened.
    In the next round, the next Roslyakov will come to school or college with a backpack of Molotov cocktails and an ax - will there be much fewer victims? Considering that these will be children - and the dude will have a hefty forehead.
    Here is further - well, logically, he started the Telegram channel. So what ? A man without friends started a telegram channel on which he told everyone (who ?!) about how cool he is and that he is Odin's son. With the same success could not start and not tell - NOTHING WOULD CHANGE. Some time ago in St. Petersburg it seems (I may be wrong) they covered the hut of a dude who just quietly and calmly cooked explosives at home and made detonators - he was also from a pot-two-vershok, well, he did not write just anything, it did not matter to him ...
    How many people use TOR to watch movies blocked by Roskompozor? Now, if it is necessary, among the host of these people, such a freak will be laughed at - go find him.

    How to deal with such people in general and not to step on the rights of normal people? It seems like a simple question - but there is no answer ..
  24. KSVK
    KSVK 12 May 2021 12: 49
    +2
    Quote: Finches
    On the shooting range and under supervision!

    And to drive a car on "special" tracks and under the supervision of an instructor.
  25. iouris
    iouris 12 May 2021 14: 08
    -1
    If the anti-extremism authorities are able to identify potential extremists by their activity on the Internet, then the opposite situation is possible, when someone recruits and directs them.
    The school forms and supplies explosive material.
    Yesterday, by chance, on the bus behind me, my grandson (a primary school student) was telling my grandmother about the "order" in school toilets: "teenagers" (boys and girls) smoke, smoke with a yoke, kids can stick their heads into the toilet with impunity ... In general, the child already has formed not just fear for oneself at school - horror! This is a collapse.
  26. NF68
    NF68 12 May 2021 16: 05
    0
    His voice did not raise, but he fired like mad.
  27. out of habit
    out of habit 12 May 2021 19: 27
    0
    They write about the pump, and then they call it a carbine.
  28. acetophenon
    acetophenon 13 May 2021 17: 27
    0
    Quote: Sandor Clegane
    Quote: Vladimir_2U
    To give this to the parents of the children, the least he deserves!

    and before that, castrate with blunt scissors without anesthesia angry

    Well, if it would help the cause of the fight against terrorism - yes! Sew back on and cut off again. Another thing that won't help. As well as stupid jokes.
  29. Prisoner
    Prisoner 13 May 2021 20: 35
    0
    And his relatives did not see a halo over his filthy head and wings behind his back ?! Hopefully they'll crush the reptile in a secluded place.
  30. Boromir1941
    Boromir1941 13 May 2021 22: 21
    0
    this is not our ilnaz .... heh, how interesting. Did they give him up so much? cool