Russian Aerospace Forces will receive planning bombs "Drill"

This year, the Russian Aerospace Forces will receive the new Drel gliding bombs for the first time. Their combat effectiveness has been confirmed by test results.

About this in interview Russian Deputy Prime Minister Yuri Borisov, who is in charge of the country's military-industrial complex, told the Interfax news agency.

Prior to that, he said that the new ammunition would go into service with the operational-tactical aviation... In particular, they are planning to equip them with the latest Su-57 multipurpose fighters.

As the "Russian newspaper", the bomb is capable of gliding at a distance of up to 30 kilometers from the drop site. Thus, the aircraft does not need to overcome enemy air defenses to approach the target. The bomb is navigated through the GLONASS system.

The ammunition contains 15 combat elements that are self-targeting. Having flown up to the place of strike, they separate from the bomb and descend by parachute, aiming at the target with the help of sensors. At the same time, the ammunition is equipped with a "friend or foe" recognition system, which allows it to hit only enemy equipment, without touching its own.

In addition, the aerial bomb does not interfere with the operation of electronic warfare, to which it is insensitive, and radars are practically unable to detect it.

Thus, it is extremely difficult to spot and destroy this ammunition.

Comments

[Mountain shooter]

Self-targeting submunitions! Yes in a gliding bomb. Something like that was about the "Smerch" warhead. An effective and dangerous weapon.

[For example]

Too many lies.

30 km. Is not the limit of the air defense zone. The aircraft will definitely be detected while approaching the drop point.

The bomb is controlled by jeepies, but for some reason it doesn't give a damn about electronic warfare.

And of course, descending by parachute, the bomb determines the belonging of armored vehicles and only kills the bad guys.

Borisov seems to be an adult.
Then who came up with these tales?

It would be great..
I poured out a couple of hundred of such ammunition over the contact line of the ukrofashists in Donbass, and cunning shells would have soaked all the equipment of the Nazis.
Yes, only this is just a fantasy.

[Tusv]

Quote: For example

30 km. Is not the limit of the air defense zone

30 km is farther than the near air defense zone. And the column on the march at a potential enemy is protected only by close air defense. They rely on aviation, the client Bukov and the S-300 B4.

I poured out a couple of hundred of such ammunition over the contact line of the ukrofashists in Donbass, and cunning shells would have soaked all the equipment of the Nazis.

First you need to send the Ducklings from the Ha-58 to extinguish the remnants of the Bukov and the S-300, and then go to Drill.

[alexmach]

30 km is farther than the near air defense zone. And the column on the march at a potential enemy is protected only by close air defense. They rely on aviation, the client Bukov and the S-300 B4.

When it comes to SDB and its derivatives with its 100+ km of planning, it suddenly turns out that this is not a weapon, but children's toys, and in general is not a question for any adequate air defense. But the "drill", which is many times larger, and its gliding range is less, just some kind of invulnerable super-weapon turns out.

[Tusv]

Quote: alexmach

When it comes to SDB and its derivatives with its 100+ km of planning

Don't juggle. In this post I talked about the military air defense of a potential enemy, and in the post below that SDB is unitary

[alexmach]

In this post I talked about the military air defense of a potential enemy

It sounds like a classic "I see here, I don't see here". Well, or belief in the magic of your own air defense.

and in the post below that SDB is unitary

Well, in the same place you were given a variant of a planning cluster bombs similar to the "Drill" size and weight of the warhead, and planning many times further. Disputes about the size of submunitions in this vein are generally not consistent.

[Tusv]

Am I arguing? Just asking. Can the BLU-108 / B and BLU-97 / B cassettes be compared with the Drill. I think no, you can’t. The weight category of the striking elements is different

[OgnennyiKotik]

According to your logic, Russian electronics is better because it is bigger and heavier? Trying to make up some kind of excuse for this miscarriage. The BLU 97/108 has enough armor penetration to defeat any modern and promising tank in the world. Don't be creative.

[Tusv]

According to my logic, you can't break through a tower with a 1,5 kg charge. And judging by the weight of the Drill, there are 15 full-fledged tandems. And the BLU 97/108 has a warhead less than a kilogram comparable to one hand-held anti-personnel grenade. You guys, before you want to cram the tag into the real, then look. Different tasks, well, absolutely. So to speak. BLU 97/108 My S-125 will blow to pieces, but a tank column - not in this life

[standan]

The BLU-108 is an airborne submunition containing four additional Skeet smart warheads. The system is manufactured by Textron Systems Weapons and Sensing Systems. The BLU-108 is deployed from an ammunition dispenser using a parachute to slow its descent. He then launches four fast-rotating targets that use multimode optical sensors to detect targets ranging from tanks and rocket launchers to railroad locomotives and landing planes. When the saucer passes through what it considers a priority target t (this priority can be changed before use), it fires a 0,9 kg (2 lb) penetrating projectile providing armor-piercing and incendiary effects, as well as a fragmentation ring designed to engage any weak targets , primarily opponents, in close proximity to the target.

And what is this armor piercing?

[Sergey M. Karasev]

I would like more details, for example, what is the mass of the bomb and submunitions. What types of ammunition are used: (cumulative, HE, etc.). For which aircraft it is intended.

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: Sergey Mikhailovich Karasev

I would like more details, for example, what is the mass of the bomb and submunitions. What types of ammunition are used: (cumulative, HE, etc.).

TTX Bombs:
Diameter, mm 450
Length, mm 3100
Weight, kg 500
The number of BEs in the cassette, pcs. fifteen
Application Modes:
- height, m ​​100 ... 10000
- speed, km / h 700 ... 1100
Fuse type built-in VU
Gliding range 30-50 km

It is equipped with an inertial guidance system in combination with the GLONASS satellite navigation system. Delivery to the region is carried out in a passive mode, the work of damaging elements is active, which eliminates the need for a carrier to capture and highlight the target (the “dropped-forgot” principle is implemented).
Anti-tank submunitions (SPBE-K) ... "nuclear shock" (EFP charges). Copper cladding ... "guidance" - IR + ARL ...

[O. Bender]

30 km, is not enough for using such a carrier as the Su57? It is normal for a UAV.

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: O. Bender

30 km, isn't it not enough ...

Not enough ... the American "analogue" has much more ... at times!

[Tusv]

Quote: Nikolaevich I

Not enough ... the American "analogue" has much more ... at times!

And what kind of analogue? GBU - 39 not to offer, not an analogue, because unitary AB

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: Tusv

And what kind of analogue?

AGM-154 ... "Conceived" in 3 "variations" ...: 1). "Filling" of cumulative fragmentation "bombs"; 2). "Filling" from SPBE; 3). "stuffing" of concrete-piercing warheads ... The planning range is up to 110 (130) km ... If the cluster bomb is equipped with a rocket engine, the planning range was supposed to be up to 560 km ... By the way, try to find a similar "abbreviation instead of GBU-39 "СBU-39! It seems to be, too, a cluster bomb, stuffed with various submunitions ... unguided ... an "analogue" of the RBK-500!

[OgnennyiKotik]

Quote: Tusv

And what kind of analogue?

AGM-154 with BLU-108 / B (24 submunitions) or BLU-97 / B (145 submunitions)

Length: 4,06 m
Diameter: 406-519 mm
Wingspan: 2,69 m
Range:

when launched from low altitudes - 22 km
when launched from a high altitude - 130 km
with engine - up to 560 km

Maximum bomb weight: 495 kg
In service: since 1998

Current operators:
Australia
Canada
Finland
Greece
Netherlands
Poland
Saudi Arabia
Singapore
Turkey
United Arab Emirates
USA
Taiwan

[Tusv]

Quote: OgnennyiKotik

B / H BLU-108 / B (24 submunitions)

Thank you. Only the BLU-108 / B has four 0,9 kg warheads, while the AGM-154B carries six. BLU-97 / B weighs 1.5 kg. Will the roof of the tank be punched? For example, the Cornet has a warhead weight of 7 kg. Are such light warheads analogous to Drills? Question

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: O. Bender

30 km, is not enough for using such a carrier as Su57? For a UAV it is normal

30-50 km. Application altitude from 100 m. Is this not an over-the-horizon application?
Exactly, over the horizon ... 37 km visibility.

[For example]

From one hundred meters, this bomb will fly three hundred meters. A little further bricks.

This is undoubtedly beyond the horizon of consciousness.

The maximum range is provided by the maximum drop height and the maximum allowable drop rate.
If these conditions are met, there is no chance of hiding behind the horizon.

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: For example

This is undoubtedly beyond the horizon of consciousness.

Don't you know about pitch-up bombing? This technique is being actively practiced, and taking into account homing it can be very successful. It's kind of offhand. To expand your horizon of consciousness. Ordinary AFAB, which threw from a shaver at a speed of 700, flew several kilometers. The dispersion was large, so it was ineffective to use a non-homing ammunition. And we have PLANNING ... At a speed of 300 m / s, but at 45 degrees to the horizon ... It will fly far away.

[For example]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

To expand your horizon of consciousness

To expand your horizon of consciousness, you should study physics and geography.
And also try to grasp the essence of the issue.

Quote: Mountain Shooter

PLANNING ... At a speed of 300 m / s, but at 45 degrees to the horizon ... It will fly far away.

From a hundred meters try to send to "flight" "At a speed of 300 m / s, but at 45 degrees to the horizon .."

There are realities of life:
- in order for this blank with wings to fly a sufficient distance, it is necessary to throw it off from a great height.
This is not a damn glider soaring. The ascending air flow cannot lift this piece of iron higher.
It is a piece of pipe with wings and stabilizers that help to DROP with a given precision.
But this requires an initial speed and drop height.

No maniac drops these bombs from a hundred meters and at an angle of 45 degrees.

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: For example

To expand your horizon of consciousness, you should study physics and geography.
And also try to grasp the essence of the issue.

Blatant illiteracy. I am telling you for the dull ones. The plane accelerates at low level, goes to climb (without losing speed, there is enough thrust), and then dumps with a stained-glass window and back home. You can calculate how far a simple projectile will fly at a specified speed. And this one with wings will climb, gain seven kilometers, and from there he will plan where necessary. If the aerodynamic quality is slightly better than that of a brick (6-7), then the range will be just under 50 km. Is that clearer? You are our physicist, half with a geographer.

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: O. Bender

For a UAV, it is normal.

This is now "approved" - the maximum 30 km ... The first reports "stated": 30-50 km ... By the way, it seems that it was the "Drill" that was preceded by the experimental RBK-500U ... it also mentions there: up to 50 km when dropped from a height of 10 km ... Moreover, they were going to deal with a variant with a rocket engine ... the range should be even greater!

[OgnennyiKotik]

Quote: Nikolaevich I

The first messages "stated": 30-50 km

Few, very, very few. The same Turks enter the KGK-82/83 Air Force. In fact, this is a body kit that can be installed on any conventional bomb of NATO / USSR standards with a caliber of 240-500 kg. Including cluster bombs.

From a fighter, the declared range is 110+ km, from a propeller-driven UAV, 30+ km.

[alexmach]

I do not understand at all what prevents to look at the "partners" and to give the pancake a gliding bomb a more "airplane" aerodynamic shape. If there is a ready-made guidance system, then work with the hull so that it would fly away what is in the way? Disposable foldable fenders are impossible to manufacture or not?

[OgnennyiKotik]

Azerbaijan modernized FAB-250 by analogy with JDAM. I used them in Karabakh. It is called QFAB-250 LG.

There are also FAB-100/250 variants with wings. The range is 8-60 km.

[Ros 56]

The joy of our potential adversaries is overwhelming.

[Uncle lee]

Quote: Ros 56

our potential adversaries

Partners !!! And just in case, bring some valerian!

[Professor]

Their combat effectiveness has been confirmed by test results.

Not "combat effectiveness", but the maximum performance characteristics. Challenges are not combat.

As reported by Rossiyskaya Gazeta, the bomb is capable of gliding at a distance of up to 30 kilometers from the drop site. Thus, the aircraft does not need to overcome enemy air defenses to approach the target. The bomb is navigated through the GLONASS system.

30 km is not enough distance so that "the aircraft does not need to overcome the enemy's air defense to approach the target."
Satellite guidance is good in irregular conflicts, but not good with an opponent who has graduated from MIT.

At the same time, the ammunition is equipped with a "friend or foe" recognition system, which allows it to hit only enemy equipment, without touching its own.

Fairy tales, fairy tales and more fairy tales. This will work when the top projection of the bourgeois tanks is rectangular and the Russian ones are triangular. This is not to mention the fact that Soviet-Russian tanks are in service with potential opponents of the Russian Federation.

In addition, the aerial bomb does not interfere with the operation of electronic warfare, to which it is insensitive, and radars are practically unable to detect it.

Hmm ... GLONASS is not jammed? The bomb itself is radio-transparent, and the parachute is transparent even in the optical spectrum of electromagnetic radiation?

[xorek]

Quote: professor

Not "combat effectiveness", but the maximum performance characteristics. Challenges are not combat.

We've been looking forward to your comment here .. Thank you, wiped yourself off ..

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: professor

At the same time, the ammunition is equipped with a "friend or foe" recognition system, which allows it to hit only enemy equipment, without touching its own.

Fairy tales, fairy tales and more fairy tales. This will work when the top projection of the bourgeois tanks is rectangular and the Russian ones are triangular. This is not to mention the fact that Soviet-Russian tanks are in service with potential opponents of the Russian Federation.

Professor ! You are again "confusing a fork with a bottle"! What does the "triangular-rectangular" shape have to do with it? The combat elements of the SPBE-K are equipped with an active radar that can operate in the "interrogator" mode ... ("friend or foe" / "interrogator-responder" system)! Deuce to you, professor ... and three times ... no, five times read the reference book on friend or foe systems!

[Professor]

Quote: Nikolaevich I

Quote: professor

At the same time, the ammunition is equipped with a "friend or foe" recognition system, which allows it to hit only enemy equipment, without touching its own.

Fairy tales, fairy tales and more fairy tales. This will work when the top projection of the bourgeois tanks is rectangular and the Russian ones are triangular. This is not to mention the fact that Soviet-Russian tanks are in service with potential opponents of the Russian Federation.

Professor ! You are again "confusing a fork with a bottle"! What does the "triangular-rectangular" shape have to do with it? The combat elements of the SPBE-K are equipped with an active radar that can operate in the "interrogator" mode ... ("friend or foe" / "interrogator-responder" system)! Deuce to you, professor ... and three times ... no, five times read the reference book on friend or foe systems!

"Can work"? Tell us about the systems "friend or foe" on cluster munitions coupled with tanks. For offset.

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: professor

Tell us about "friend or foe" systems on cluster munitions mated to tanks

Well, professor ... you have requests! Tell you all military secrets! And it's not like a "cookie box"; but even a pack of crackers is not offered!

[Professor]

Quote: Nikolaevich I

Quote: professor

Tell us about "friend or foe" systems on cluster munitions mated to tanks

Well, professor ... you have requests! Tell you all military secrets! And it's not like a "cookie box"; but even a pack of crackers is not offered!

Not offset. There is no such system. That is, it exists, but it is a military secret.

[Kaw]

the bomb is capable of gliding at a distance of up to 30 kilometers from the drop site.

In my opinion, this is very small by modern standards, for imported analogs the range starts from 60 km. and higher.

[OgnennyiKotik]

Quote: Kaw

In my opinion, this is very small

It's not just a little, it's criminally few. Especially for a new bomb, not a modification of the old one. The same JDAM-ER makes any old bomb more long-range than Drill. It is only comparable to “regular” JDAMs.

[Kasym]

"criminally small" ...
It's physics. Nobody canceled the force of gravity. Those. much depends on the weight of the ammunition and the warhead. Apparently, this "Drill" weighs no less. As I understand it, the PBK-500U - judging by the numbers, it is 500kg .. The British have an ammunition weighing 60kg from a small warhead under 100km ... Much depends on the carrier (aircraft) and the drop location. Those. carrier speed and drop height. It's one thing with a kilometer of altitude and low speed, another thing with a max. altitude and supersonic (and for this, ammunition with a suspension mechanism must be adapted). It can even be assumed that you cannot drop the Drill at supersonic sound. For example, conventional ABs on supersonic do not drop - there is no sense in this - you will get into milk and only ... Well, and aerodynamics.
Such ammunition will be used only after all serious air defense has been cleaned out. A MANPADS and anti-aircraft art. at such a distance (30 km.) do not work ... Everything has its place and time. ...Something like this.

[shahor]

Quote: Kasym

The British have an ammunition weighing 60 kg with a small warhead under 100 km.

You are wrong. Israel, for example, has a family of Spice bombs with calibers ranging from 150 kg to 900 kg. So this same 900 kg flies 100-110 km.
And the little ones are only 70.

[Kasym]

Nikolai, no mistake.
Gravity: F = mg (g = 9.8 m per sec.). Therefore, it is directly proportional to (depends) on the mass of the object. For example, what is faster for a fluff or a stone of the same size to fall to the ground from the same height? But the lift is directly proportional to the wing area. Consequently, the Israeli bomb has a large wing area (the bottom is probably flat). But here there are also "pitfalls": a large wing causes more air resistance - a lower flight speed - a longer response time - it is easier to shoot down.

[voyaka uh]

"The bomb is capable of gliding at a distance of up to 30 kilometers from the drop site. Thus, the aircraft does not need to overcome the enemy's air defenses to approach the target" ///
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What kind of air defense is this with a range of 30 km?

[cat Rusich]

Quote: voyaka uh

"The bomb is capable of gliding at a distance of up to 30 kilometers from the drop site.
What kind of air defense is this with a range of 30 km?

For example
SAM Yitian from China

Range up to 6 km.
I am just giving an example of a short-range air defense system ...

[Tusv]

Quote: voyaka uh

What kind of air defense is this with a range of 30 km?

Just all western military air defense can finally be up to 20 km. Not well, of course, there are average ones, but with a deployment of 15 minutes or more, you are all dead, to be honest. You can't cover a tank column on the march

[riwas]

You can't cover a tank column on the march

The carrier will not intercept, but a cluster bomb may well be deployed before it is deployed. Even the "Air Defense Derivation" with a 57-mm cannon with shells with remote detonation is probably even capable of this. You just need to put a small millimeter-wave radar on it.

[_Ugene_]

What kind of air defense is this with a range of 30 km?

I mean short-range air defense, capable of covering a convoy on the march, for example, IM-SHORAD with your MHR radar, in my opinion this is the newest that the United States has, the rest is all junk of the Avenger type

[Synoid]

gregräpker [quote = O. Bender] 30 km, is not enough for using such a carrier as the Su57? For a UAV it is normal. [/ Quote
Well, advertising in the West has always been better, both animations and works of art (ala Dunno on the Moon). There are no true characteristics in the public domain, it's like believing gentlemen)) At the same time, the characteristics are both overestimated and underestimated, or maybe they just counted where the blank fell from the highest launch height). And who will be bombed at such a distance, third world countries? With the Russian Federation or China, a local conflict will not work - 120 km range of destruction, a thing that can be good, but not effective.

[Herman 4223]

Indeed, why is the range so short? Logically, the range depends on the altitude and speed of the drop (which is not known) and aerodynamic quality (the ability to glide at a certain distance in kilometers with a decrease of one kilometer), I think that in fact, everything is in order with the characteristics. We just don't know the initial data.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

I've seen miracles, but this ...

And the radar does not detect and is not sensitive to electronic warfare.

And the enemy cannot drown out and change the GLONASS signal, can it?

Yes, and in order for a 30 km bomb to be dropped, it must not be dropped from a height of 30 meters, but much higher, but if so, then within 30 km and the carrier aircraft can be detected and shot down by even medium-range air defense systems.

But let it be, it will come in handy))

[_Ugene_]

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[BastaKarapuzik And]

the names of the ammunition are definitely encouraging))