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"Epic" with a falling Chinese missile is close to completion

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"Epic" with a falling Chinese missile is close to completion

The bulk of the debris from the spent stage of the Changzheng-5B (CZ-5B) rocket belonging to the PRC burned up during its entry into the dense layers of the atmosphere over the Indian Ocean. The rest were in the water.


This is reported by sources citing China's manned flight program.

On May 9, at 10:24 am (local time), the debris of the Changzheng-5B launch vehicle re-entered the Earth's atmosphere.

- say the Chinese.

The time indicated by them corresponds to 5 hours 24 minutes Moscow time. The message also contains the exact geographic coordinates of the crash site.

Thus, the epic with the falling Chinese rocket, which until today has excited the whole world, fearing the fall of the remnants of the rocket in any densely populated area, is close to completion. Of course, if the message from the PRC is confirmed by other sources.

Shortly before that, Wang Wenbin, a spokesman for the Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs, reassured the world community by revealing the design features of the falling missile. He said that this complex technical device is designed so that when it enters the atmosphere, it is easily destroyed, and most of its debris burned up before reaching the surface of the Earth. Thus, the fall of the rocket does not pose a particular danger. Earlier, the Pentagon stated that the danger is great, since the fall is uncontrollable.

On April 29, the Changzheng-5B launch vehicle launched the main module of the Chinese space station into orbit.
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  1. Thrifty
    Thrifty 9 May 2021 09: 42
    +4
    On the Internet there is even a photo of a falling rocket in the atmosphere, taken by our satellite, and the object tracking service confirmed the fact that the remnants of the rocket fell into the ocean!
    1. military_cat
      military_cat 9 May 2021 10: 54
      +7
      Thus, the fall of the rocket does not pose a particular danger. Earlier, the Pentagon stated that the danger is great, since the fall is uncontrollable.

      The author of the news, apparently, has some kind of Pentagon of his own, which does not coincide with the one observed by others.

      The wreckage of China's heavy launch vehicle Long March 5B ("Changzheng-5") could fall to Earth in a few days, said Pentagon spokesman Mike Howard. "I do not believe that any precautions should be taken. The risk of any damage or injury to someone is quite small."Howard told CNN.
  2. A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 9 May 2021 09: 48
    -7
    Well, everything worked out. Praise be to the Almighty!
    Humanity has once again done a slight fright. hi
    1. Thrifty
      Thrifty 9 May 2021 09: 51
      -2
      Halts negative What shaitan you fired at our military base in Syria from planes? Living too well? am
      1. A. Privalov
        A. Privalov 9 May 2021 10: 14
        -3
        Quote: Thrifty
        Halts negative What shaitan you fired at our military base in Syria from planes? Living too well? am

        Why, we live somehow, we chew bread, we wash it down with milk and we wish you!
        I will not say anything intelligible for the base, no one from the Ministry of Defense reported anything to me. Sorry. hi
        1. forty-eighth
          forty-eighth 9 May 2021 12: 18
          +1
          Communication with Meehan is good for you laughing
    2. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 9 May 2021 09: 59
      +1
      The Israelis and the residents of the United States dressed themselves with a slight fright, and humanity did not even notice the falling 2 stages of the Chinese rocket, because they always fall for everyone.
      1. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 9 May 2021 12: 39
        +4
        Quote: tralflot1832
        The Israelis and the residents of the United States dressed themselves with a slight fright, and humanity did not even notice the falling 2 stages of the Chinese rocket, because they always fall for everyone.

        Yes, it's still a shame like that. It would be better if it fell on the Pentagon, or on the NATO headquarters, at least some benefit would have been, otherwise in the ocean ... Now the fish is bad. winked
        1. tralflot1832
          tralflot1832 9 May 2021 12: 44
          +3
          I totally agree that if she had "sat" in a pentagon, it would have been the most famous landing! Apollo and Musk were resting after such an advertisement.
    3. sabakina
      sabakina 9 May 2021 10: 01
      +1
      Quote: A. Privalov

      Humanity has once again done a slight fright. hi
      Alexander, you shouldn't speak for all of humanity! I personally didn't care about the drum, but some Zusul about the tambourine!
    4. Piramidon
      Piramidon 9 May 2021 10: 15
      +2
      Quote: A. Privalov
      Humanity has done it once again

      Have you washed your pants, "humanity"? Don't spread personal problems to everyone.
    5. aszzz888
      aszzz888 9 May 2021 12: 36
      -3

      A. Privalov (Alexander Privalov)
      Today, 09: 48
      NEW
      -2
      Well, everything worked out. Praise be to the Almighty!
      Humanity has once again done a slight fright. hi
      On duty for "humanity"? tongue
  3. donavi49
    donavi49 9 May 2021 09: 55
    0
    Because the inclination is such that almost all the way over the ocean - fell into the ocean suddenly.

    Meanwhile, Iloniy congratulated on May 9, with his ten times not many times.
    1. sabakina
      sabakina 9 May 2021 10: 41
      -1
      Quote: donavi49
      Meanwhile, Iloniy congratulated on May 9, with his ten times not many times.

    2. military_cat
      military_cat 9 May 2021 11: 55
      -3
      Quote: donavi49
      ten times

      Unkillable step. I wonder when it will finally be broken. Ten attempts have failed so far. laughing But they will continue to break.
      1. donavi49
        donavi49 9 May 2021 12: 09
        -1
        There, on the way, another ten times if that.

        Now, the differences from the table are now in 1051 - 10 flights, and in 1049 - 9. In a week, 1058 flies - 8 times.
  4. Tarasios
    Tarasios 9 May 2021 09: 59
    +8
    - Vasily Ivanovich, there our rocket did not go into orbit, it falls apart on the fly! Correspondents came running, what to say to them ?!
    - Hmm ... Petka, write down: "this complex technical device is designed so that when it enters the atmosphere, it is easily destroyed" ...
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 9 May 2021 10: 06
      +1
      Well, specifically, this case, in general, routine. Drops not controlled into the graveyard, but at a random place along the trajectory. At Musk, too, farms are sown so regularly.




      Well, all the steps are calculated so that they fall apart on an uncontrolled return and burn out for the most part. The theory is that it is better to let the tanks and engine pieces fall onto the square than a completely burnt semi-assembly for a couple of tons.
      1. Blackmokona
        Blackmokona 9 May 2021 10: 30
        0
        Well, he usually drops them south of New Zealand or Australia. There was some kind of failure with the farm
        1. sabakina
          sabakina 9 May 2021 10: 49
          0
          BlackMokona, donavi49 said regularly, then regularly! Or are you going to argue with the doctor who said "to the morgue"? wink
          1. donavi49
            donavi49 9 May 2021 12: 13
            +2
            No, this is a risk, but quite moderate. Approximately equal to the fact that a cosmic body will fly into your house / on your head. This is a likely threat, but they put up with it. Although from time to time arrives.




            Everybody regularly has pieces of missiles falling in the wrong direction. The reason why it was so inflated with the Chinese PH:
            - it is heavy.
            - she is Chinese.
            - there are no other topics for hype right now.
  5. knn54
    knn54 9 May 2021 10: 12
    +1
    -designed so that when it enters the atmosphere, it is easily destroyed,
    The "test" was successful.
  6. Well done
    Well done 9 May 2021 10: 12
    0
    Did the Chinese celebrate May 9 in a peculiar way?
  7. xorek
    xorek 9 May 2021 10: 16
    .
    China clearly cannot do without Russia in space! We do not impose too much, ourselves, so ourselves .. But we could tell you what the problem is hi
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 9 May 2021 10: 32
      +3
      In Russia, too, they are falling uncontrollably. And Arian falls. And Falcon9 regularly arranges a light show with filling tanks, and he does not fall asleep in the ocean, but in his native Texas. This is generally the norm - and sometimes the choice is to press on the target load and drop the step on the trajectory, or drop the step and load on the cemetery.

      As for not intruding, there were negotiations on the Chinese station. The Chinese refused to go to a compromise orbit, so it will be very difficult to fly on the Soyuz to the Chinese station. As a result, of the joint only concept - MNLS.
    2. Cosm22
      Cosm22 9 May 2021 11: 29
      -7
      The problem today is that China has already put the base module of its OR into orbit.
      And Russia on Earth has only its shell and a bunch of unsolved problems in iron.
      So who will prompt what and to whom?
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 9 May 2021 13: 52
        +1
        This Chinese module, then they brought out a clean copy-paste of the Zarya module, just lengthened with the same copy-paste gateway module
        "And Russia on Earth has only its shell in iron and a bunch of unsolved problems." All are solvable and judging by the presentation of all modules and their performance characteristics, R&D on them has been going on for a long time and, unlike Chinese copy-paste, our modules will be new
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 9 May 2021 13: 55
          0
          And two more
          until 2030 most of the most important problem will be solved, there is the necessary launch vehicle for launching.
        2. Cosm22
          Cosm22 9 May 2021 15: 52
          -4
          Alas, the pictures do not impress me. Unlike the grandmothers from Uryupinsk, I know their value and their essence.
          And the point is only in such pictures to blur the eyes of the audience with such pictures and to depict the ebullient activity.
          Today the basic module of the NEM is only a lightweight body in iron. And nothing more. By the way, it was not difficult to "find" such a body, which is part of the first stage of the Proton LV. He was quickly presented to the respectable public. But this is not Chinese copy-paste, right? It turns out to be something supermodern. As well as UM Berth. Which, in principle, was also made for the ISS and, possibly, it will fly there if it works out with MLM. So ROSS will have to wait for its duplicate.
          There is nothing else in the backlog today.
          Why did this happen?
          Because initially NEM was not at all positioned as a basic ROSS module. It was originally intended in the ISS RS as a peripheral module and was supposed to ensure the independence of the Russian power segment. If you don't know, the ISS RS today is almost completely dependent on the American side.
          It should now become the base module of the new OP. After the difficult situation with the RS on the ISS developed, which was openly admitted by the First Deputy General Director of RSC Energia Vladimir Soloviev. Anyone have any idea the scale of the work? Converting an active docking station to a passive one? Warehouse-laboratory in Central Control Center? On the equipment of places for sleeping, rest, simulators, automated control systems (not what they thought, but what is called a latrine in the fleet - a sanitation and sanitation device)? Installing a new vehicle and correction engines? In short, you can list for a long time, but the essence is the same - you need to do everything from absolute zero. More precisely, to redo everything. And solve a bunch of problems. Such as with gyrodines. Here, however, we got out of the situation elegantly: the PH will not pull such a weight - we will do without them altogether. What about? Simple and tasteful. In the spirit of Roscosmos.
          And what kind of carrier is ready, may I ask? Is it really Proton-M with number 93703? So sad, he was not destined to deliver the module to orbit. For the guaranteed storage life of Proton is 6 years. Or does someone believe that NEM will be honored to launch in 2015? Or maybe Angara-A5M? Which is not yet in nature? For its predecessor is only on LCI and it is not known when it will be released from them. And from which SC will this carrier start? Really from the one on the East? Where else has the horse not been lying?
          So: the declared year 2025 is not the start time. This is just a starting point. When the case may move in real life, and not in pictures.
          This is despite the fact that the Chinese base module is ALREADY in orbit, and next year the entire architecture of the station will be assembled. Without any doubt.
          That's why I'm asking: who has more reason to give advice on what and how to do? Russia? Or China?
          And dreams about 2030 ... Anything is possible. But the whole point is that the Chinese OR by this time has already worked out its main resource.
          1. ccsr
            ccsr 9 May 2021 17: 29
            0
            Quote: Cosm22
            That's why I'm asking: who has more reason to give advice on what and how to do? Russia? Or China?

            Well, not the Americans for sure - even they themselves began to admit it:

            NASA swears in love and loyalty to Roscosmos
            NASA Acting Administrator Steve Dzhurchik (in another Russian transcription - Yurchik) issued the following fundamental statement yesterday:
            And Yurchik just opened up ..
            This is what a spiritual impulse has arisen in the ranks of American astronautics: they have "good" relations with Russia and a huge amount of partnership plans.
            And only Roscosmos had to declare three things:

            Completion of its activities on the ISS in 2025 (with the possible transfer of the Russian segment of the station to someone from the companion countries)
            Start of the active phase of work on the creation of the national orbital station ROSS
            Memorandum on the joint Russian-Chinese lunar station
            And immediately, through the mouth of the head of its Aerospace Agency, the United States began to recall friendship, cooperation, partnership, good relations with Russia and, in general, love to the grave.

            What is especially nice in Mr. Yurchik's statement is that he recalled friendship and love, but did not recall the recently introduced drastic sanctions against Roscosmos enterprises. Probably, it became inconvenient to start your speech for health, and end for peace.
            ..... And pressing, as practice shows, can be a lot and often:
            On the whole, spaceX and Boeing's rocket projects are doing very well, and therefore places on Soyuz have been bought, they are buying and they will be buying.
            The West will never build ISS-2 without Russia's help - and without building it, the Western guys will sink into a puddle of shame, which will be even deeper than the current inability of the United States and Europe to organize a flight to the Moon by themselves, because after all, the Moon is the highest complexity , and the construction of a station at LEO seems to have been completed and tested in two decades.
            The United States may begin to forget about future lunar flights, overflights, landings, and even more so about the project of a real Lunar Base, without the support of Russia and with endless changes in space priorities due to the quirks of each new president. We can sing in chorus "Goodbye, America" ​​Artemis, oh-oh-oh. "
            In general, I would like to wish NASA to stop fussing and looking for benefits for itself in every situation that arises, and instead offer Roscosmos mutually beneficial terms - and most importantly, then strictly observe the agreements ourselves, without kicks from around the corner and petty cheating. However, as we have seen since at least 1986, the American elite is organically incapable of playing fair.

            https://zen.yandex.ru/media/alice_russia/a-iurchik-prosto-otkryvalsia-nasa-klianetsia-v-liubvi-i-vernosti-roskosmosu-60870783a1e0f1569bd896ca?&utm_campaign=dbr
            1. Cosm22
              Cosm22 9 May 2021 18: 15
              -7
              And why this nonsense from A. Korolyov, it is not known for what reasons calling himself the historian of astronautics? Can I just as well call myself a professor in this field? So my innate modesty does not allow me.
              On VO there is no section "Humor". Links to authoritative, serious and solid resources, not at the Zen level, are welcome here.
              And why is America far-fetched to the potential of China and Russia in the comments? Why not Zimbabwe? Not Nicaragua?
              But for that matter, the answer is simple.
              1. If Russia thinks to shake off its crumbling segment of the US ISS and even get money for it - vain hopes. There are no fools in the United States to carry this suitcase without a handle instead of Russia. The orbit will be corrected, if necessary, in other ways. And who said that the United States will cling to the ISS to the last? When are Artemis and Gateway projects coming up?
              2. From the start of active work to the finish of these very works for a country that today is unable to even make new tanks for MLM, the distance is enormous.
              3. The desire at least in words to lean against a stronger state is understandable. The only trouble is that for China this memorandum is an insignificant piece of paper. It does not impose any obligations and responsibilities. With the same success, it was possible to sign a memorandum on a joint flight to the constellation Cassiopeia. And China is not up to VOC now, there are more urgent tasks.
              1. ccsr
                ccsr 10 May 2021 16: 42
                -1
                Quote: Cosm22
                Then I might as well call myself a professor in this field.

                You persist in trying to do this, only you are unlikely to be taken seriously by most. So continue to admire American programs, and I will listen with interest to the opinions of real experts in this field.
                Quote: Cosm22
                But for that matter, the answer is simple.

                Is this your answer or that of Yurchik, IO NASA administration? He didn't talk about that ...
                By the way, your beloved Musk admits that some of the astronauts will die before they reach Mars - will you buy yourself a ticket there?
                Elon Musk, planning to send researchers to Mars in 2026, stated that some of the astronauts may die before reaching the planet. The inventor said this in an interview with the founder of the X-Prize fund, American aviation engineer Peter Diamandis, reports TMZ.
                The flight to Mars became one of the main topics of conversation. NASA plans to send humans to the Red Planet only in 2033. Musk enthusiastically talked about his plans and even compared space flight with the development of Antarctica.
                It is reported by Rambler. Further: https://news.rambler.ru/tech/46297483/?utm_content=news_media&utm_medium=read_more&utm_source=copylink

                By the way, the discrepancy in the timing - this is how to understand?
          2. Vadim237
            Vadim237 9 May 2021 18: 50
            +4
            Finish your absurd nonsense to write - no, there will be no rocket, there will be no starting table, the horse has not been lying around for 2.5 years, they have been building everything according to the schedule, even the not modernized Angara will be enough to display all this from the same Plesetsk and everything that is shown in the presentation is at least several years old in R&D, the pictures do not make an impression on me - probably because not an engineer, but an ordinary propeller. "The Chinese base module is ALREADY in orbit - Kopipast has never been and will not be an achievement, even if you paste over this station.
            Who has more reason to give advice on what and how to do? The Chinese, as before, copied our developments - so all the new modules of our station will copy the trend of the new Russia is creating and not they.
  8. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 9 May 2021 14: 12
    +1
    As always ... "Spirtogon" screamed, the mongrels supported, the Chinese remained silent, and the rocket, as it was programmed, went into the ocean. But "sensation"! "Tights" Grace "!!!