French press: The guys from Rostov and Odessa, whose great-grandfathers fought shoulder to shoulder against Nazism, can now fight against each other

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The French press is discussing a military parade that will take place on May 9 on Red Square in Moscow. The Le Figaro publication says that the Victory Day for Russia is the most important component of the national idea, which is "promoted by the Kremlin."

In the material they write that they will pass through Red Square Tanks and other armored vehicles, rocket launchers, anti-aircraft systems.



From the material:

The military parade in Moscow is on a par with the Russian signal - the reinforcement of troops on the borders with Ukraine.

French journalists note that Russia "has fewer and fewer allies, and recent rhetoric is aimed at promoting the thesis about attempts by individual countries to steal victory." Such countries, as the French author writes, Russia includes Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia.

The material points to the more frequent statements that Russia will fight against Ukraine.

From a French press article:

It turns out that the guys from Rostov and Odessa, whose great-grandfathers fought shoulder to shoulder against Nazism, can now fight against each other.

The French author writes that against this background, relations between Russia and the West have escalated to the limit. At the same time, Le Figaro notes that there are even statements about the readiness of the West to form a coalition "like the anti-Hitler one during the Second World War," however, it is emphasized that today the situation is such that the West and the East cannot unite to solve extremely important problems, including terrorism, climate change and coronavirus.
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  1. +18
    9 May 2021 09: 19
    It's a shame ... it's a shame where we got to, the collapse of the Soviet state, which was saved at a terrible cost by our fathers, grandfathers, great-grandfathers, led to the shame of nationalism ...
    1. -29
      9 May 2021 09: 29
      Quote: Civil
      saved by our fathers, grandfathers, great-grandfathers, led to the shame of nationalism ...

      USSR and was engaged in nationalism. He planted the Nazis. The division of the common house into maximally autonomous "national apartments" took place in accordance with the policy of the party and the government. And the Constitution with "sovereign states" and "the right to exit" was also written by the commies. By 1991, each republic of the union had its own ministries, they were self-sufficient and the constitution of the USSR made it possible to secede from the union.
      1. +2
        9 May 2021 09: 46
        That's the whole ideology of the enemies of the communists after the seizure and dismemberment of the USSR - and to slander those from whom they took the country, and cowardly to blame and blame those for what the enemies of the communists did both in the Soviet period and in their anti-Soviet / anti-communist Perestroika. , and for 30 years after their capture of the USSR. Including the fact that they did what neither the Americans nor the Nazis with their myth of the "Holodomor" succeeded in - to set the Russian and Ukrainian peoples against each other.
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        2. +2
          10 May 2021 08: 51
          So what did a friend write incorrectly, where have you seen this, did they write the nationality in the passport? In what other country has this been done or is doing, along the way developing national languages, popularizing books by national authors of the same Shevchenko and films? Also, Poland of Ukrainians on its territory after the Vistula operation resettled a maximum of 2 families per village or city, and did not allow Khrushchev to go to embroidery. The result in 50 years you can see for yourself ... The best employer and friend, and you continue to bring peace to the world and get sanctions. Ukraine is doing exactly the same thing right now, doing everything so that people are even afraid to say that they are Russian. As Putin said, the Bolsheviks planted a time bomb and more than one, in all spheres of life.
          1. 0
            10 May 2021 18: 12
            The French "allies" are lying: there was little chatter in Odessa, mostly the banderva who had come in large numbers. BUT real residents of Odessa will be shoulder to shoulder with Rostovites and other Russian brothers to liberate Ukraine from Bandera.
      2. +13
        9 May 2021 09: 52
        This is our mentality. After ourselves in other countries, we leave roads, factories, schools, hospitals.
        1. +5
          9 May 2021 10: 17
          Quote: Rash
          This is our mentality. After ourselves in other countries, we leave roads, factories, schools, hospitals.

          Something that we ourselves are very much lacking ... request
        2. +5
          9 May 2021 17: 01
          Quote: Rash
          This is our mentality. After ourselves in other countries, we leave roads, factories, schools, hospitals.

          With your permission, I will add, and some leave behind only democracy.
      3. +9
        9 May 2021 10: 01
        Quote: Bashkirkhan
        USSR and was engaged in nationalism.

        =======
        "...Sometimes it is better to remain silent: you look and pass for not very stupid ... But as you open your mouth - so wassat fool so immediately the last doubts and dispelled....." (Mark Twain) hi
      4. +3
        9 May 2021 10: 08
        And what is not true? Am I the minusors? Wasn't Ukrainization a policy of the Soviet leadership?
        1. +4
          9 May 2021 10: 20
          Quote: didra
          And what is not true? Am I the minusors? Wasn't Ukrainization a policy of the Soviet leadership?

          Personally, I would be interested to see a Chukchi speaking in mov ... laughing
          1. -1
            9 May 2021 20: 27
            Look at Kuryanin Klimkin, here's a Chukchi ready for you)
            1. -1
              10 May 2021 08: 20
              An incorrect example: Klimkin is a non-Russian surname, but he himself is not Russian, but simply a geek. In the same way, any Bandera member is a degenerate of the Ukrainian ethnos.
              1. -1
                10 May 2021 10: 45
                Sorry, but, Klimkin, this is a purely Russian surname. Although this is not the point, but the fact that Ukraine is now full of Russians who consider themselves Ukrainians. Alas, this is so. There are several reasons for this, and one of them comes from the USSR. Again, we are talking about the policy of Ukrainization on the territory of the Ukrainian SSR.
                1. -1
                  10 May 2021 16: 52
                  Not good!
                  Here is US Secretary of State Blinkin - a typical Jew, but he bears the Russian name Anton: so why should Klimkin be Russian?
                  Go back to school, study further ...
                  1. 0
                    10 May 2021 22: 06
                    "I heard a ringing, but I did not understand where he is." This is about you.
                    You will not bet when you are allowed to teach. I repeat once again - Klimkin is a purely Russian surname. Check and clarify yourself. Your reflex to Jewish mimicry does not bother me. To give you a little joke, I will give the name and surname of my friend, Nikita Belyankin, and he is a hare - a hare.
                    1. -1
                      10 May 2021 22: 07
                      And we are talking about something else. You are even lazy to comprehend the message.
        2. nnm
          +15
          9 May 2021 10: 25
          I have almost never put any cons, and I will answer you as well.
          The main mistake in your statement is that
          USSR and was engaged in nationalism.

          On the contrary, internationalism developed in the USSR, and this, you must agree, is completely different.
          And to put only Russians in the leadership of the republics would just be the most real colonialism. And this was alien to the USSR. On the contrary, in the republics they tried to develop national identity and a sense of community on the scale of the state itself, and not "steer" the natives through the governor general.
          1. +2
            9 May 2021 11: 02
            Quote: nnm
            in the republics they tried to develop national identity

            It was further developed that all republics, without exception, wanted to leave the USSR.
            It is true that they noted above that the article in the Constitution on voluntary withdrawal from the USSR was erroneous. The founding fathers of the USSR did not think about the situation in advance.
            1. nnm
              +9
              9 May 2021 11: 07
              This statement is also false - just look at the results of the referendum on the fate of the USSR. They testify to exactly the opposite.
              So the decision of the top should not be correlated with the opinion of the people.
              Whether there was an article or not, it would not have stopped anyone in that situation.
              When the three largest republics, including the RSFSR, themselves wanted to leave the Union, no articles would have saved the Judas in power from the decision.
              1. +1
                9 May 2021 11: 16
                It turns out that the Jews are breaking into power, and the people are silent and can not do anything, on the contrary, they praise these Judas. And what to do, after all, everything can continue to be the same? Something needs to be changed.
                1. nnm
                  +2
                  9 May 2021 11: 24
                  Quote: Fan-Fan
                  after all, and further can be all the same

                  Eh, if only "can" ...
                  No, colleague, I don’t think that we will be able to radically change something: people have changed and not for the better, the refrigerator has found a compromise point with the TV ... no, and it will not work to create a critical revolutionary mass, and it’s not worth such mockery of the country.
                  But remember that you vote for the future of yours and your children when you go to the polling station. And not sit with an even booty on the couch waiting for a change
                  1. -2
                    9 May 2021 11: 29
                    I agree, you need to vote wisely, but I am still not sure that those who have power do not cheat with the elections. Will smart voting help us in a situation where the strong is always to blame?
                    1. nnm
                      +4
                      9 May 2021 11: 35
                      They cheat, of course. But .. I tell you for sure - this is possible when the gap in the votes is small. When it is huge, no one can change the honest result.
                      1. -4
                        9 May 2021 11: 37
                        I agree, but how to convince our people to vote and not stay at home. So even on this site, many write that they will not vote.
                      2. nnm
                        +3
                        9 May 2021 11: 54
                        Every right has a downside. In electoral law, this party is a responsibility. And if we are not ready to exercise our right, then we will reap the results in the form of responsibility for the choice made by others.
                      3. +5
                        9 May 2021 12: 12
                        I agree, you need to vote wisely

                        You will never succeed in convincing the people for Navalny to "vote smartly". Yes
                        One protege of the West, who lived comfortably in Britain and Germany, had already destroyed the great Empire. In which all citizens were Russians, and then became residents of the national republics.
                        And the regional "princelings" striving for power could only rely on nationalism. They could not offer any rational meaning. Therefore, history is now being rewritten.
                        And the RSFSR was not needed. As well as all other "republics".
                        EBN came to power in the RSFSR under the idiotic slogan: stop feeding the outskirts (other republics) - we will live beautifully! Does this nonsense, which he was making at the polling station in Ramenki, remind you of anything? In Ukraine, are not the same slogans about the EU and panties?
                        Another such "Western", like Navalny and MBKh, will fail. I'm sure. hi
              2. -2
                9 May 2021 20: 30
                How did these Judas come to power? Who created and gave them into their hands the republican institutions of power? Is it really Chubais?)
                1. 0
                  9 May 2021 21: 56
                  shhh ... you're asking too awkward questions.
              3. +2
                9 May 2021 21: 56
                Well, look at the results of the referendum on the secession of Ukraine.
                1. -1
                  10 May 2021 11: 15
                  Looked, thanks. I myself (as a teenager) at the turn of the 80s / 90s lived in Donetsk and Kharkiv regions and I remember conversations that Ukraine feeds all of Russia and pulls the industry of the USSR. Although, of course, no one had a deep understanding of what was happening.
      5. +13
        9 May 2021 10: 17
        You are not entirely correct. The USSR and its leading and guiding force - the Communist Party did not instill nationalism and did not support it. Ideologically, it looked like a rise in national self-awareness. Not only industry and agriculture developed. The development of culture went on. National theaters were created. Supported by talented artists, poets, writers, sculptors from national ethnic groups. Some nations did not have their own writing, where to speak of their own literature.
        Without a doubt, in a single state (USSR) it was impossible to have two levels of culture and education. It would be foolish to lower the titular nation to the level of those who stood at a lower stage of cultural development. Therefore, it was necessary to raise the latter to the required level of the former.
        And then it turned out what happened. The stick always has two ends.
        And you can loosen the earth with a stick and plant root crops, or you can beat on the head and hump.
        All the more majestic and humane was the goal - to bring to a higher level of culture those peoples and nationalities that lived, at the time of the formation of our state, in a feudal clan society.
        But it would be possible not to raise everyone?
        Leave it as it is?
        Let him live and not tweet?
        That which today is fully embodied both in Russia and in those republics that previously made up our Union.
        Where is Tajik poetry? Where is Turkmen music? Why are not Uzbek poets appearing on the horizon?
        Things are no better in Russia.
        Today's situation reminds me of the following plot.
        A huge whale carcass lies on the seashore. And flocks of jackals gathered around them, dragging to themselves everything that they manage.
        They devoured science and industry. They killed education and science. And nobody cares about culture.
        Now there is only one haven for the scoundrels - nationalism. This is a dense animal, a bestial property of modern people, inherited from the time of the war of Homo sapiens with the Neanderthals.
        1. +5
          9 May 2021 10: 59
          As for national minorities, I remembered one great dancer of the USSR, who, by the way, is never Russian and who often joked about this himself: this is Mahmud Esambaev. So you write everything correctly. There was no nationalism in the USSR, it was alien to all ideology. there would be no Kola Beldy, Makhmud Esambaev, Muslim Magomayev, Joseph Kobzon, Lev Leshchenko, the Pesnyary ensemble, Yalla, Artek, etc.
        2. -1
          9 May 2021 21: 58
          I don't know what could or could not be done, the result is obvious.
      6. +8
        9 May 2021 11: 00
        Quote: Bashkirkhan
        commie

        abomination wrote
        He was a communist
      7. +7
        9 May 2021 11: 16
        Quote: Bashkirkhan
        By 1991, each republic of the union had its own ministries, they were self-sufficient

        It seemed to them, the republics, in 91. Even Tatarstan dreamed that it, being, in fact, an island in the middle of Russia, would live independently, without the Union, at the expense of Tatneft and KamAZ. Despite the fact that half of the country worked at KamAZ in one way or another (and is working), and the value of a bucket of Tatneft oil is noticeable only in a barrel of Russian oil.

        We see the fruits of this self-deception about self-sufficiency throughout the entire perimeter of Russia. It is not our migrant workers who go to Moldova, Central Asia and the Ukraine to eat their own families on the "Rodinka" ... Russophobia still feeds some, but the "breadwinners" will soon get tired of it - even bail out your problems with buckets.

        And yes. Look at which republics of the USSR and how many times more funds from the union budget than they themselves earned. Only the RSFSR and Belarus have a positive balance.

        Self-sufficient you are ours, damn it [further extremely obscene] ....
      8. +1
        9 May 2021 12: 03
        They were ministries, but they were not self-sufficient.
    2. +9
      9 May 2021 09: 34
      French press: The guys from Rostov and Odessa, whose great-grandfathers fought shoulder to shoulder against Nazism, can now fight against each other

      And this shame was organized for us by Gorbachev and the Yeltsins .. when we have already regained the leadership that will recreate the USSR .. It infuriates to the brain ... how could such a shame be allowed .. how we were divided, robbed and now mocked, and a little more and fight They will send each other .. Everyone who is involved in this shame should be tried .. and against the wall ..
      Happy Victory Day! Dear Ukrainians, Belarusians and all other citizens of the Great and mighty USSR, it's time to think about what is happening .. it's time to unite .. and demand ..
      1. +1
        9 May 2021 11: 05
        I agree, the common people have nothing to divide, but the rich and muddy the waters, they are not enough, they cannot get drunk in any way.
    3. +7
      9 May 2021 10: 33
      In the ATO zone, two soldiers were killed, this is a tragedy.
      380 people died from the coronavirus in a day, and nothing.
      And who made an effort so that the guys from Rostov and Odessa would shoot each other, the French press for some reason is silent.
      1. 0
        10 May 2021 08: 38
        Just writing meanness about our guys is the only thing that the frogs are capable of, preparing surrender to Hitler of France on a silver platter, while he rattled his boots on the march to Paris - cowards and traitors whom the Germans simply despised - now they are inventing nasty things about us.
    4. +11
      9 May 2021 10: 53
      French press: The guys from Rostov and Odessa, whose great-grandfathers fought shoulder to shoulder against Nazism, can now fight against each other

      Paoni from Rostov and Odessa, as they fought shoulder to plich against the Nazis, are still fighting. That is why modern Nazis, supported by the West and the same France, burned them in Odessa. French geeks rejoice early.
      1. +2
        10 May 2021 08: 43
        Nothing, and the frogs will be able to meet the guys from Rostov and Odessa, if they only decide to get involved in the NATO games during the liberation of Novorossiya ... but they will be even less lucky if they happen to meet ordinary guys from Pskov and Ivanov.
        1. 0
          10 May 2021 09: 53
          You speak with such confidence about
          liberation of New Russia

          But this has been broadcast to us since 2014, and things are still there.
          1. 0
            10 May 2021 16: 57
            Excuse me, but "you" is what level for you to "broadcast" and who contracted to walk on the porches and be a broadcaster?
            Looks like you are respected, but broadcasters have not come to us laughing ...
            1. 0
              10 May 2021 18: 54
              We are residents of the South-East of Ukraine. They broadcast through many different sources - social media groups, YouTube channels, various sites. Almost everything was blocked, leaving only disappointment.
              But you have not answered the latent question - where is the confidence that
              New Russia
              и
              liberation
              are coming?
    5. +3
      9 May 2021 12: 32
      Quote: Civil
      It's a shame ... it's a shame where we got to, the collapse of the Soviet state, which was saved at a terrible cost by our fathers, grandfathers, great-grandfathers, led to the shame of nationalism ...

      The collapse of the USSR led not to the shame of nationalism, but to its revival. While the USSR was, the bearers of the ideology of the revival of Nazism sat in their holes.
      As for the French, it would be better for them to get sick with the fact that soon guys from Paris will be killed by guys from Algeria, Sudan, Ethiopia, Libya and other southern countries, refugees from which are marching in orderly rows to Europe.
      How the guys from Rostov and Odessa will figure it out does not concern them. It seems that normal residents of Odessa will gladly support the residents of Rostov in the utilization of the huntik affected by the Nazi plague.
      1. +1
        10 May 2021 08: 50
        Our VSUshnikov may also regret it, but Bandera, Crimean Tatars and Terbat fighters of the "Azov" type will definitely not be taken prisoner!
    6. 0
      9 May 2021 18: 46
      As usual, the western press is scattered
    7. 0
      9 May 2021 23: 50
      Quote: Civil
      It's a shame ... it's a shame where we got to, the collapse of the Soviet state, which was saved at a terrible cost by our fathers, grandfathers, great-grandfathers, led to the shame of nationalism ...

      He was then still in the harness. They did everything very cleverly. It seems like Soyuz NG, but it seems like everything is separately.
    8. 0
      10 May 2021 07: 53
      Quote: Civil
      It's a shame ... it's a shame where we got to, the collapse of the Soviet state, which was saved at a terrible cost by our fathers, grandfathers, great-grandfathers, led to the shame of nationalism ...

      I personally have nothing to be ashamed of! Sevastopol got out of this svidonizalezhny formation. Personally, when ukre listened to what Russian lazy and slobber, idlers and drunkards ... From seemingly adequate people .. like friends of colleagues ... They carried the Russian language, history ... Received a vaccination against nationalism worse "Sputnik V".
    9. +1
      10 May 2021 08: 10
      They won't wait ... For the guys from Rostov-on-Don and Odessa to shoot each other. This will not happen. On May 9, the people of Bandera, who came out with their flag in Odessa, almost tore, the police beat them off. But not very hard ...
  2. +18
    9 May 2021 09: 24
    Here the French would be generally silent, the "winners" damn them .... they fought less in the resistance than for Hitler ..
    1. +13
      9 May 2021 09: 29
      And don't say, mlyn)) And they signed the surrender with a smart face, both German and even Japanese - well, they all won!
    2. 0
      9 May 2021 09: 34
      With language removed.
      The fact that they themselves, whose grandfathers, those who put their signatures after ours in the act of surrender of Germany, are ready to go on about the current "senior partners" against the former allies in World War II, did not write ?!
    3. +4
      9 May 2021 09: 37
      The Germans were shocked. How?? ARE THESE winners too ?? !!
    4. -1
      9 May 2021 09: 40
      Andrey, whatever one may say, the French are right here! War is inevitable, during the years of "independence" their brains have been completely taken out, those who want to fight, and there are already many more who hate Russia there than those who sympathized with us. They shit here while living, but in our backs "slavoukroinat" what can we say about those living in uk-roin. ...
      1. 0
        10 May 2021 10: 00
        War is inevitable, during the years of "independence" their brains were completely taken out, there are already many more who want to fight, and there are already many more fiercely hating Russia than those who sympathized with us

        And here you are absolutely wrong. Most of my compatriots do not hate Russia, despite the propaganda. Mainly concerned with issues of survival, not politics, every election shows this.
        As for the real haters and sympathizers, it depends on the region. In Odessa, there are more sympathizers, I note that at least some of the haters over time quietly spilled over into the category of conditional neutrals.
    5. +3
      9 May 2021 09: 48
      that's why they celebrate the day of reconciliation. Most of Europe worked for Hitler and then from the defeated to the winners repainted. that's just for some reason now with Russia in the same row it became ashamed to be this question. Well, for some reason they don't want to join us. only Belarusians and sharovarniki on "Chrestos is risen!" know the password ... and the Vatican rubs its hands
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      1. +7
        9 May 2021 09: 30
        Colleagues! Don't feed the troll. Well, if only cons. The sooner he will lose interest and self-destruct.
      2. nnm
        +2
        9 May 2021 09: 39
        And what is stopping you from the mausoleum, colleague?
        Do you like to fight with the dead, who cannot even answer?
        Are you not "a guy from Odessa for an hour?" And that is very similar to them.
        1. Alf
          +4
          9 May 2021 09: 54
          Quote: nnm
          Do you like to fight with the dead, who cannot even answer?

          A dead lion can only be kicked by a jackal.
          1. +4
            9 May 2021 10: 36
            Tobacco, they are everywhere tobaccos. What can not but surprise, this year this trash has decreased in social networks. Usually, on Victory Day, such a howl was arranged. Today the animals are silent. Apparently they realized that the jokes were over.
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          1. nnm
            +8
            9 May 2021 09: 57
            "Colleague, when you write something, it seems that you are delusional!" Do not deign, sir, to express your thoughts more coherently and easily. We are not all here, unlike you, are the descendants of the Knopp barons and the Imperial House of Romanov, Denmark laughing
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            1. nnm
              +4
              9 May 2021 09: 59
              Can you tell me what your statement has to do with the topic under discussion?)))
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                1. nnm
                  +4
                  9 May 2021 10: 32
                  Quote: nnm
                  Can you tell me what your statement has to do with the topic under discussion?)))

                  Quote: Alexey Petryaev
                  No

                  Standing applause for your logic, colleague! hi
                  Quote: Alexey Petryaev
                  The voice of Alexander 3 is still in the audio library of the Kingdom of Denmark, go listen to the clown's voice of the chief at the ZIM defense plant in the winter of 1941.


                  Colleague, can you only hear these voices, or sometimes it seems to you that they are talking to you?
            2. 0
              9 May 2021 10: 34
              Quote: Alexey Petryaev

              Where is Knopp - there is a factory
              The background looks like an arms factory! laughing
          3. Alf
            +5
            9 May 2021 10: 11
            Quote: Alexey Petryaev
            I do not quite understand the irony of the cattle talking about the military-industrial complex, not from Odessa. From Samara.

            Oh, Tabaki whined ..
        3. +8
          9 May 2021 10: 01
          Dear! Don't fall for provocation, ignore it.
          I understand you perfectly, my hands are itching to express everything I think about him.
          But this is exactly what he is waiting for.
          1. nnm
            +8
            9 May 2021 10: 05
            Colleague, so not everyone in life has a chance to communicate with the Samara offspring of the Danish Baron and the Imperial House of Romanov, Denmark laughing
            For some reason it reminds me of the "emperors" from the movie "The Elusive Avengers".
            Best regards to the representative of blue blood, of course hi
            1. Alf
              +5
              9 May 2021 10: 12
              Quote: nnm
              Colleague, so not everyone in life has a chance to communicate with the Samara offspring of the Danish Baron and the Imperial House of Romanov, Denmark

              Well, the representative of the house of Romanov had to get so drunk so as to create such a ub-ka.
              1. nnm
                +4
                9 May 2021 10: 17
                You and I do not understand this bohemia, colleague!
                The Samara offspring of the barons and the Imperial House of the Romanovs, Denmark in the morning, apparently, indulges in champagne, opening it in Gussar style with a saber from Knopp. Everything thinks and worries about Russia.
                I'm just afraid to think about what he is doing with the photo of the Baroness in this state .. laughing;
                1. Alf
                  +1
                  9 May 2021 17: 15
                  Quote: nnm
                  I'm just afraid to think about what he is doing with the photo of the Baroness in this state.

                  Oh, monsieur refined connoisseur ...
        4. +2
          9 May 2021 10: 28
          Quote: nnm
          Are you not "a guy from Odessa for an hour?"
          He is not a "guy from Odessa". He's a Pentagon guy. There was an article on VO that the Pentagon is recruiting Russian-speaking trolls. wink
          1. +3
            9 May 2021 23: 02
            Quote: sabakina
            He is not a "guy from Odessa". He's a Pentagon guy. There was an article on VO that the Pentagon is recruiting Russian-speaking trolls
            And what do you think everyone is doing anti-propaganda centers created in the former republics? You don't even need to look for anyone there
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  4. +5
    9 May 2021 09: 30
    Someone has been plundering the Soviet legacy for 30 years, and someone has put the ideas and values ​​they need into the heads of our people.

    Everything that is happening now and will only happen as a consequence of this.
  5. +4
    9 May 2021 09: 33
    Our grandfathers fought against all of Europe. Hitler was supplied with weapons by all of Europe and now, having made a lot of efforts to create the situation that has now arisen, they rejoice at their successes.
    1. +5
      9 May 2021 09: 42
      And not only Europe. The role of the United States in the formation of German Nazism is shyly silent. The truth can be silenced, only it is difficult to hide. Now they are also cultivating Selyukov-Bandera Nazism in Ukraine.
  6. -1
    9 May 2021 09: 35
    It is true that the French wrote here, just not "can" but will be! Uk-Roinu will be pulled into NATO, the Kremlin, as always, will silently swallow it, and the Yankees will drive the Novonatists to slaughter, against Russia, placing their nuclear weapons on their territory, once our lands, in order to complete the collapse of Russia! I will not even be surprised that the Yankees will secretly supply the uk-Roine with centrifuges to enrich uranium and create nuclear weapons. In the war against Russia, all means will be good, even radioactive Europe, just to end our country!
  7. nnm
    +8
    9 May 2021 09: 36
    And they did not write that these same "guys from Odessa" are now shy of their ancestors? That they didn’t even put up a memorial to those burned by the Nazis in their city? That on January 2, they walk around their city with portraits of Bandera, that they knocked down Zhukov's board, that the red army is now an occupier for them. So there is no need to equate the guys from Rostov and Odessa.
    1. -1
      9 May 2021 16: 58
      Quote: nnm
      That they didn’t even put up a memorial to those burned by the Nazis in their city?

      there will be no such memorial with this name (because nationalists are not Nazis, and the tragedy should be considered without political slogans)
      But the decision of the City Council "On perpetuating the memory of the victims of the tragedy of May 2, 2014 in Odessa" was made back in June 2015 (No. 6755-VI)
      Factions and deputy groups of the Odessa City Council agreed on a draft decision "On perpetuating the memory of the victims of the May 2 tragedy."
      It was adopted unanimously.
      The document sounds like this:
      “On May 2, 2014, a terrible tragedy occurred in Odessa - because of political differences, blood was shed, people died ...
      In a multinational and multicultural Odessa, which has always prided itself on its tolerance and tolerance, extremism has prevailed over humanity.
      Only by giving a proper official political and legal assessment of the events of May 2, we will be able to stabilize socio-political relations, achieve moral healing of society from the terrible stress, prove the irreversibility of the processes of democratization of society, and forestall the possibility of a repetition of such tragedies.
      In order to perpetuate the memory of the innocent victims of the tragedy of May 2, 2014, guided by the ideals of humanism and social justice, defending human and civil rights from the standpoint of human values, in accordance with Articles 25, 26 of the Law of Ukraine "On Local Self-Government in Ukraine", Odessa City Council
      I DECIDED:
      1. To immortalize the memory of the victims of the tragedy that occurred on May 2, 2014 in Odessa.
      2. To instruct the Department of Architecture and Urban Planning of the Odessa City Council to determine the possible form in which the memory of the victims of the tragedy can be perpetuated and to submit their proposals for consideration by the City Council.
      3. Control over the implementation of this decision to entrust the standing commission on education, culture, sports and interaction with public organizations "

      At the request of the May 2 Group investigative group, the construction of the memorial has been postponed for the time being.
      For numerous violations and delays, burdensomeness and protraction of a court case in Europe, they have long been sued by the ECHR
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        9 May 2021 17: 43
        Quote: Black Lotos
        At the request of the May 2 Group investigative group, the construction of the memorial has been postponed for the time being.
        For numerous violations and delays, burdensomeness and protraction of a court case in Europe, they have long been sued by the ECHR

        Do you yourself understand WHAT you are writing? Where is the investigation team, and where is the memorial. Are those investigators who have been portraying work for 7 years when there is a video with the faces of the participants?
        What other ECtHR decision on the memorial? And what is not expected of the UN Security Council meeting?
        Something that the party of Sharia did not interfere with at least a commemorative plaque, which the Nazis immediately tore down, and they installed a new one on the same day ... not even waiting for the decision of the ECHR ...
  8. -2
    9 May 2021 09: 36
    cannot unite to tackle critical issues, including terrorism, climate change and the coronavirus.

    These are just absolutely not the primary directions.
  9. +8
    9 May 2021 09: 43
    What does France care about our Victory Parade? !!! This is our Victory, thanks to our grandfathers, great-grandfathers. This is our Victory Parade, perhaps the only holiday left from the USSR.
  10. +5
    9 May 2021 09: 52
    The state of Ukraine was created on lands illegally torn from Russia,
    on meanness, betrayal, lies, sick fantasy, fakes is not viable and should disappear.
  11. 0
    9 May 2021 09: 54
    That's just not necessary Bandera fascists killing peaceful people equate with normal people, the fact that they also betrayed their ancestors causes more disgust.
  12. +3
    9 May 2021 10: 27
    It turns out that the guys from Rostov and Odessa, whose great-grandfathers fought shoulder to shoulder against Nazism, can now fight against each other.

    Do not turn over "gentlemen henchmen" .. We have always fought hard against the Bandera bastards and they are not Ukrainians, but bedding of Nazis and other Russophobes

    Can you remember the French how you met the Wehrmacht troops? There are archives and your popular artists served the Nazis .. So shut your mouth and don’t stink .. This is our victory! soldier
  13. +2
    9 May 2021 10: 49
    Descendants of Hitler's collaborators from the Parisian "Figaro" region beguiled about the "anti-Hitler coalition of the West" from Western countries, during the Second World War, like France, who were active accomplices and companions of Nazi Germany in the aggressive "March to the East" !!!
    Alas, a lot of descendants of those "great-grandfathers" (Bandera, Melnikov, Bulbov) (hello to the former "regional", ex-"Russian compatriot" Crimean " cryptobulbophil "Kolesnichenka) and other similar gangster scum !!!), who" shoulder to shoulder (or even running ahead of the fascist "Einsatzkommando", as it was in June 1950 in Lviv!) with Hitler's "Common Europe" killed and robbed Soviet citizens, tried to capture and destroy our Soviet Motherland-USSR!
    These are the descendants of "Ukrainian" night UPYRAs and intoxicated by the many decades (even starting with Gorbachev's kata "construction") anti-Soviet and nationalist propaganda ( Immediately, with the "independence" that grew into a Russophobic-anti-Russian, carried out mainly for uncontrolled multi-hundred billion (and not miserable "State Department target 5 billion green pieces of paper" !!!) Russian "rollback (resonant" case of the gas princess and the generals of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation " , the strange "Russophobic blindness" of all "business talkers" grew up, in particular, "who did not read at close range," even "at work", a racist Russophobic libel, with an eloquent "funny name" ?! "gas worker", very much prompts such assumptions! IMHO) subsidies to the "westernoid" Ukrainian "kleptoligarchy" - "grabber" of our nationwide Soviet Property!) in the post-Maidan "w / Bandera" amerokolony "Ukraine", and received (from the Washington invaders and their puppet Kiev "Maidan authorities") a "label" for the frenzied "Svidomo" Russophobia and the unpunished destruction of all "unseen" fellow citizens ...
  14. 0
    9 May 2021 11: 19
    Guys from Odessa? Will not. And the guys from Western Ukraine will scatter on the very first day of the war.
    1. -2
      9 May 2021 17: 16
      Quote: Lycanus
      Guys from Odessa? Will not

      this is the 28th division, the place of deployment is the village of Chernomorskoe (Odessa region).
      They have been fighting since the first days.
      In July 2014, the battalion-tactical group of the 28th brigade covered the state border with Russia in the Izvarino-Kumachovo section.
      On August 28, 2014, the battalion-tactical group of the 28th brigade was transferred from sector "D" to reinforce the grouping of Ukrainian troops in sector "B".
      Subsequently, the brigade unit, together with other units, participated in the battles at the Donetsk airport.
      Fights Saur-Mogila, Marinovka, Maryanka and at the border.
      So the residents of Odessa and the guys from the Odessa region have been participating for a long time to this day. 775 conscripts from Odessa and the region this year will go to serve. (There most of all from Dnepropetrovsk and least of all from Transcarpathian)
      Western Ukraine is mainly guys from Lviv and Transcarpathia, mountain shooters, artillerymen, rocket men, aviation, etc.
      There are fewer of them because of the smaller population.
      But they are also in the army from the first days of the conflict.
      Simply because of the population density and the nature of the conflict, most of all in the army is the Central part, Eastern and Southern Ukraine. In general, Russians and Ukrainians.
  15. +2
    9 May 2021 11: 41
    It turns out that the guys from Rostov and Odessa, whose great-grandfathers fought shoulder to shoulder against Nazism, can now fight against each other.


    Do not wait ...
  16. 0
    9 May 2021 11: 42

    Here is the latest news from Ukraine ..... I will go to war with such guys even now ......
  17. 0
    9 May 2021 11: 43
    It is scary to admit to many agitators and trolls that guys from Dnepropetrovsk, Kirovograd, Odessa, Zapoporzhye, Donetsk, Lugansk, Mariupol, etc. are fighting against the conventional "guys from Rostov".
    And it is unlikely that the conditional "zapadentsam" need the very Donetsk and Lugansk. They are more handy in Poland. Yes, trolls and local agitators are driving strange thoughts away. They would have to create in their illusory consciousness the image of conditional "Bandera", and howl about the betrayal of the ukrov ... Kozma Prutkov wrote - "Behold at the root."
  18. -1
    9 May 2021 11: 45
    Well, what else could the descendants of the last defenders of the Reichstag write?
  19. 0
    9 May 2021 12: 07
    Why should the French talk?
    For the last time, their self-confidence crashed against Bismarck's united Germany.
    And then their business is to correctly guess the future winner in order to lie down more comfortably and have fun. Like the Czech Republic or Bulgaria ...
    He pulled de Gaulle out of the NATO military organization (not from the political one!), So Sarkozy shoved back ...
    Now let them scratch their turnips: do they need to fight for Georgia, Ukraine, or Estonia? And what can it cost?
    But with all the pathos and historical pride, it would be better for them to return, as de Gaulle did ... they will be more whole, otherwise they will see "Charlemagne" lying behind Hitler's bunker like flowers ...
    And let Estonia fight for Ukraine, or whatever Lithuania is there, since there is such a desire.
  20. +1
    9 May 2021 12: 12
    The material indicates more frequent statements that Russia will fight against Ukraine.

    Well, like this, Such alarma "more frequent statements" come precisely from the West and from the post-Maidan frank amerocolony "Ukraine" - "AntiRussia"! winked
    After all, after only in response on explicit preparation for hostilities (the massive transfer of "ukrovoysk" to Donbass and to the borders of Crimea, the transfer of additional military cargo and "advisers from the NATO bloc" to "Ukraine"!) and the increasingly frequent bellicose statements by representatives of the "Maidan authorities" and "heroic military leaders" about the intention to "repeat Nagorno-Karabakh-2020" in the Donbass and Crimea, the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation conducted demonstrative military exercises on the sudden transfer of troops to their western borders, which until then were completely unnoticed by the "sensitive French", the increasingly frequent aggressive Russophobic-anti-Russian statements of the "w / Banderaites" They were abruptly replaced by defeatist ones (in the Ukrainian "Banderoknesset" -ZRada, the "servants of the enemies of the people" even reached Internet links "it's time to get out of this country!" ... wassat ) and in "Figaro" suddenly "saw the light, cried out" - "and our zapadokholuyev nightmares for sho?!" ??? smile
    The long-term "war with Russia" in Ukraine is a new source of enrichment and robbery of working fellow citizens by kleptoparasites, who have already plundered and torn apart the former Ukrainian SSR to the ground. mercantilely "Ukrainian" kleptoligarchs - "w / Bandera" (obediently "rolling back" more than 70% of the neo-colonial "democratic apartheid", with its misanthropic "universal human values" and outright genocide of their native population, looted by their Fashington huckster-curators! parasitic, protégés in the destructive "Maidan authorities" and "Svidomo" servants with "rewired brains" and a hypertrophied "complex of manshability-inferiority", consisting of any marginal (although some of these dense individuals "accept" with their "diplomas of higher education" and claim on even the supposedly "elite enlightenment", but alas, this is only an appearance!) of evil spirits and dregs of society! negative
    1. 0
      10 May 2021 00: 45
      Small addition. Uncleanness is not human. And it must be completely destroyed, to the last. Howl about the genocide in the wrong direction. Genocide, by definition, concerns only people. And evil spirits are like grass, only poisonous. No one whines about the genocide of grass by lawn mowers.
  21. +1
    9 May 2021 12: 23
    Rather, the guys from Galicia and Lvov are ready to fight against Russia
    6-7 million Ukrainians fought in the Red Army
    from 100 to 200 thousand traitors fought in the UPA
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  27. +1
    9 May 2021 14: 00
    Yeah, thanks to you, European and American scum, you love to play off peoples.
  28. +3
    9 May 2021 14: 06
    And who cares ... The frog, who happily fought against the USSR, supported the Wehrmacht in every possible way and somehow got into the ranks of the victorious countries, where the USSR was the only country that was really victorious. The rest are either no one to call anything (like France) or the instigators of the war, who changed their colors sharply when they realized that the USSR would crush the "European Reich".
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  31. +2
    9 May 2021 14: 46
    "Anti-Hitler coalition of the West" supporting the torchlight processions of neo-fascists? But...
    Although what is surprising, the European Union N1 with Adolf Alaizych pressed against us, shook off and want revenge
  32. 0
    9 May 2021 18: 15
    The Russians will not go against the Russians, and the rebels of the insane Nazis and various fascists will have to be given to the army of Christ under the Red Banner of the reviving USSR ..
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  34. +1
    9 May 2021 20: 54
    Let the "press" of France deal with the problems of France. Even in spite of the huge number of bases of the "Right Sector", "Left Bank", the "Azov" battalion, the strengthened police regime and the full support of the radicals by the state, Odessa is waiting for a light and fights for its own ... dear and common to all. And not a single person I know, and this is a huge array of diverse people, I repeat, not one will go to shoot the brothers from Rostov.
    1. 0
      9 May 2021 22: 58
      I watched the events in Odessa on YouTube today (also in Kharkov and Kiev). Odessans are great, you can't hide that - this is an open uprising against the fascists!
      And this now requires courage - and such a massive scale!
  35. 0
    10 May 2021 13: 35
    Quote: skif8013
    Quote: Rash
    This is our mentality. After ourselves in other countries, we leave roads, factories, schools, hospitals.

    With your permission, I will add, and some leave behind only democracy.

    Is it a democracy? Something I don't see, no matter how I look ...
    Regarding democracy, I remember the statement of the founder of the Krishnas Prabhupada: his journalists asked about democracy, he answered "Democracy? Demon-crazy!" And in many ways he was right, which we now see. The American implanted model brings death, destruction, degradation, greed and LGBT values ​​...
  36. 0
    11 May 2021 09: 46
    Everything changes. Yesterday's brothers became enemies for a "snuff of tobacco" as Lenin said (about the sale of their homeland and betrayal for Western handouts).
    It so formed that, if we have to, yes, we will fight against the Ukrainian guys, especially since they have independence and guiding with a pro-Nazi upbringing and Russophobic propaganda already in their brains. They live in a different reality, where the Russians are the worst enemies, and the USA is the best friend.