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The number of Challenger 3 tanks ordered for the British army has been announced

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In London for the British Royal Army ordered Tanks Challenger 3. This is against the backdrop of reports of plans to reduce the number of tanks.


According to the latest information, 148 of these new tanks have been ordered for the tank units of the United Kingdom.

The Challenger 3 main tanks are a deep modernization of the Challenger 2 tanks in service since 1998. These will be the first fully digitalized tanks in the British Army.

The modernization of combat vehicles will be carried out at the Rheinmetall BAE Systems Land (RBSL) plant located in Telford, Shropshire.

The contract will create 200 new jobs in the main production and 450 more in the UK suppliers. The cost of the historic, as the British media calls it, agreement is £ 800 million, or more than $ 1,1 billion. The British Army expects to receive the first Challenger 3 tanks in 2027, and the rest by 2030.

The purchase of the new version of the tanks is taking place against the backdrop of announced plans to reduce their total number from 227 units to the named 148. The tank contract is part of an overall defense strategy that will reduce the number of the army to 72,5 thousand troops by 2025 as part of increasing attention to unmanned aerial vehicles and cyber war. However, these plans have been criticized in Britain itself. It is stated that a decrease in the number of tanks could lead to negative consequences for safety.

The new version of the British Challenger 3 tank is capable of speeds up to 97 km / h, has a greater range and is armed with a 120 mm smoothbore gun (for NATO ammunition). Each combat vehicle can exchange data on the battlefield with both other tanks and attack helicopters and UAVs. This version of the tanks is suitable for the so-called set-centric war.

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  1. Anzhey V.
    Anzhey V. 8 May 2021 11: 30
    +20
    The trend is obvious - almost all countries are actively modernizing old tanks for new conditions. Their firepower is already impressive, and with an increase in situational awareness, their effectiveness will increase significantly.

    Cheap and practical.
    1. xorek
      xorek 8 May 2021 11: 42
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      According to the latest information, 148 of these new tanks have been ordered for the tank units of the United Kingdom.

      Why are they on the island? Well, if only the Irish and Scots want to be independent.
      Or the migrants will arrange a booze .. They supplied, I remember, their tanks in the USSR under the lend-lease. They were dumb and burned well ..
      1. Anzhey V.
        Anzhey V. 8 May 2021 11: 46
        +21
        I remember that they supplied their tanks to the USSR under the lend-lease. They were dumb and burned well ..


        Ferret, you should at least read something on the topic before you flog nonsense.

        The same "Valentines" were loved and respected by Soviet tankmen.

        But where are they, veterans, to the all-knowing Ferret, right?

        Why are they on the island?


        Is it okay that they are NATO members, and most of the British armored units are usually based in Germany?
        1. xorek
          xorek 8 May 2021 12: 01
          .
          Quote: Anjay V.
          Ferret, you should at least read something on the topic before you flog nonsense.

          The same "Valentines" were loved and respected by Soviet tankmen.

          But where are they, veterans, to the all-knowing Ferret, right?

          Anzhej heard this new thing .. Of the libers, Vicky has obviously read too well.
          Quote: Anjay V.
          Is it okay that they are NATO members, and most of the British armored units are usually based in Germany?

          And what are they doing there? Germany itself can produce combat tanks, they have huge experience after the fight with the Russians! Who pitted them against us. That is the question?
          Let's place more "merkavas" in Germany, I won't be surprised in Ukraine either .. Ugh damn
          Show me at least one chronicle, where your "valeyten" in the attack went en masse ??? NO them, and the Germans burned them right away together with the crews with one hit .. Well, why turn the history of the Second World War so?
          1. Anzhey V.
            Anzhey V. 8 May 2021 12: 09
            +14
            Wiki has been reading


            “For about a month we studied with English Matildas and Canadian Valentines. I must say that Valentine is a very successful car. The cannon is powerful, the engine is quiet, the tank itself is short, literally as tall as a man. "

            - Nikolai Yakovlevich Zheleznov, Soviet tanker from the 4th Tank Army.

            As I said earlier, stop embarrassing yourself.
            1. xorek
              xorek 8 May 2021 12: 22
              .
              Quote: Anjay V.
              Wiki has been reading


              “For about a month we studied with English Matildas and Canadian Valentines. I must say that Valentine is a very successful car. The cannon is powerful, the engine is quiet, the tank itself is short, literally as tall as a man. "

              - Nikolai Yakovlevich Zheleznov, Soviet tanker from the 4th Tank Army.

              As I said earlier, stop embarrassing yourself.

              As always, before May 9, such a blizzard begins .. Like without the Anglo-Saxons (who created Hitler and sent him to the USSR), we would not have coped?
              Your Churchill waited until the last, who was who .. Stalin asked, but your beloved Naglo-Saxons waited until the last, before opening the second front .. And how profited !!!!!!!!
              I hate your libertine praise of the West .. negative
              I'm already tired of fighting off your crowd of Liebers .. I’m looking, they are still running to kick me in a crowd and scribble complaints .. soldier
              1. Anzhey V.
                Anzhey V. 8 May 2021 12: 24
                +7
                You ought to accept sedatives, dear, or even something harder - otherwise they are so nervous, traitors and liberals are everywhere. Or is it that you already have senile problems?
                1. xorek
                  xorek 8 May 2021 13: 19
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                  Quote: Anjay V.
                  You ought to accept sedatives, dear, or even something harder - otherwise they are so nervous, traitors and liberals are everywhere. Or is it that you already have senile problems?

                  Probably a senile resentment .. hi How dashingly you young people explain everything and turn everything upside down. Resentment is simple, it will still return a hundredfold to you and then you will understand .. What does it mean to honor the memory of past generations who saved you from evil spirits conquerors .. They pick you from the inside and very successfully now. I remember I am these statements
                  1. Anzhey V.
                    Anzhey V. 8 May 2021 13: 44
                    +4
                    Probably senile resentment


                    Do you think we have no offense?

                    You are not alone and not only your generation worries about the fate of the country.

                    Only now, expressing this through malice, greasy jokes and stigmatizing everyone in a row as enemies and liberals is a bad idea, comrade Khorek.
                    1. xorek
                      xorek 8 May 2021 14: 52
                      .
                      Quote: Anjay V.
                      Probably senile resentment


                      Do you think we have no offense?

                      You are not alone and not only your generation worries about the fate of the country.

                      Only now, expressing this through malice, greasy jokes and stigmatizing everyone in a row as enemies and liberals is a bad idea, comrade Khorek.

                      Well, yes, you are still here to teach me bully .. Get up in line for libers. I'm not the one you just tried to cover with nets ..
                      They began to trample, well, well ..
                      I know your "brother" .. Pshelvon. negative
              2. Alex777
                Alex777 8 May 2021 15: 10
                +3
                I'm already tired of fighting off your crowd of Liebers .. I’m looking, they are still running to kick me in a crowd and scribble complaints ..

                I’m never a liberal. hi
                1. Anzhey V.
                  Anzhey V. 8 May 2021 15: 16
                  +3
                  I am never a liberal


                  Similarly, but comrade Ferret cannot be explained)
                  1. Alex777
                    Alex777 8 May 2021 15: 18
                    +1
                    We have it special, practically reserved. lol
              3. ROSS_51
                ROSS_51 8 May 2021 16: 29
                -1
                Quote: xorek

                As always, before May 9, such a blizzard begins .. Like without the Anglo-Saxons (who created Hitler and sent him to the USSR), we would not have coped?
                Your Churchill waited until the last, who was who .. Stalin asked, but your beloved Naglo-Saxons waited until the last, before opening the second front .. And how profited !!!!!!!!
                I hate your libertine praise of the West .. negative
                I'm already tired of fighting off your crowd of Liebers .. I’m looking, they are still running to kick me in a crowd and scribble complaints ..


                What does the praise of the West have to do with it? Lend-Lease is a historical fact. And you should be more interested in history, read your memoirs, memoirs. And not only the Soviet ones ... read the British, Germans, French, Japanese ... They, of course, also try to shield themselves, but there is part of the truth ...
            2. lucul
              lucul 8 May 2021 13: 17
              .
              I must say that Valentine is a very successful car.

              For a German, yes - a very successful opponent - dox quickly and guaranteed.
            3. vadim dok
              vadim dok 8 May 2021 16: 29
              -2
              And also read the book by D. Loza - Tankman on a foreign car that went through the whole war!
          2. Lara Croft
            Lara Croft 8 May 2021 13: 17
            +3
            Quote: xorek
            And what are they doing there? Germany itself can produce combat tanks, they have huge experience after fighting with the Russians!

            British tanks in West Germany are from the end of WWII, in the years of the Cold War, the 1st Army Corps of the British Army with three BTCs (260-300 tanks in each), ABR was located in Germany. and parts of amplification ...
            Now the British army in the FRG only denotes its military presence, leaving V and VT in storage in the FRG ... so you can rejoice ...
            According to the data obtained by the publication, due to Williamson's new plans, more than 200 British servicemen and 400 members of their families will remain in Germany. In addition, in the plans of the British military department to retain the Zennelager training ground near the city of Paderborn, depot for storing armored vehicles in Monchengladbach, where about 2 thousand units of armored vehicles and trucks can be accommodated.

            https://topwar.ru/146910-london-britanskaja-armija-ostanetsja-v-germanii-iz-za-rossijskoj-ugrozy.html
        2. Grandfather
          Grandfather 8 May 2021 12: 13
          +8
          Quote: Anjay V.
          Ferret, you should at least read something on the topic before you flog nonsense.

          The ferret-mikhan does not need to read, he just needs to insert his 5 kopecks at least somewhere. For many years the air has been littering with its stupid excrement. never mind.
          1. Anzhey V.
            Anzhey V. 8 May 2021 12: 15
            +6
            for many years the airwaves have been littering with their stupid excrements. never mind


            Ok, thank you for the warning, I will keep in mind)
          2. xorek
            xorek 8 May 2021 12: 25
            .
            Quote: Dead Day
            Quote: Anjay V.
            Ferret, you should at least read something on the topic before you flog nonsense.

            The ferret-mikhan does not need to read, he just needs to insert his 5 kopecks at least somewhere. For many years the air has been littering with its stupid excrement. never mind.

            And it makes you very angry? Yes, I’m your idyll (whining and croaking swamps))) here sometimes I break .. And then you give free rein and Hitler will justify .. Ugh damn it.
      2. Konnick
        Konnick 8 May 2021 12: 05
        +9
        I remember they supplied their tanks to the USSR under the lend-lease. They were dumb and burned well.

        Again, some information from the myths. For example, the Valentines helped a lot in the defense of Moscow and in the subsequent counteroffensive. Armor 60mm, tower 65mm, thicker than that of the T-34, a cannon that penetrates all types of German tanks of that period from a kilometer distance. By the way, the Valentines supplied to us had a diesel engine and a firewall and burned worse than a thirty-four.
        Well, there was an article about Churchill on VO
        https://topwar.ru/1770-cherchill-v-rossii.html
        1. lucul
          lucul 8 May 2021 13: 16
          .
          Again, some information from the myths. For example, the Valentines helped a lot in the defense of Moscow and in the subsequent counteroffensive. Armor 60mm, tower 65mm, thicker than that of the T-34, a cannon that penetrates all types of German tanks of that period from a kilometer distance.

          I am loud - since 1942, these Valentines are just useless junk.
          1. vadim dok
            vadim dok 8 May 2021 16: 34
            +1
            It seems that the battle of Moscow took place in 1941, and then British tanks helped, their own - then everything was almost all over by that time!
            1. lucul
              lucul 8 May 2021 16: 37
              +1
              It seems that the battle of Moscow took place in 1941, and then British tanks helped, their own - then everything was almost all over by that time!

              The only advantage of Valentine for 1941 is the comfort for the crew and good work, against the backdrop of the breakdowns of the T-34.
              In all other respects, the T-34 was superior to Valentine.
      3. vadim dok
        vadim dok 8 May 2021 16: 26
        0
        The British Matilda tanks were in the majority in the Red Army in the battle near Moscow, since the SOVIET tanks ran out, and new ones had not yet been built! And what tanks burn badly? T-34 also burned!
    2. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 8 May 2021 11: 52
      -7
      Don't sing praises to the dumbest tank in modern tank building. The question is, what happens with Challenger 3?
    3. Viktor Sergeev
      Viktor Sergeev 8 May 2021 12: 08
      +1
      Nothing will grow. For a modern war with weak opponents and old tanks in bulk, and against a strong 200 tanks this is nothing. Does the experience of Tiger, Tiger2 and other "super tanks" remind you of anything? Fate, in the event of a war of equal opponents, will be decided by cheap and massive weapons, and Challengers 3, new Abrams and Leopards are a good reason to cut budgets.
      1. Anzhey V.
        Anzhey V. 8 May 2021 12: 13
        0
        The fate, in the event of a war of equal opponents, will be decided by cheap and massive weapons


        Victor, I'm sorry, but you are stuck in the realities of at least the Cold War, if not an earlier era.

        In "wars of equals" now, neither tanks, nor planes, nor ships decide. Armies are used exclusively in obviously greenhouse conditions.
        1. Viktor Sergeev
          Viktor Sergeev 8 May 2021 17: 18
          -1
          So I wrote about it. The meaning in new tanks, as well as in other new and increasingly expensive weapons, is completely absent in modern conditions, which is why Russia is in no hurry with the Armata and Su57, but in the west they are trying to steal more dough on the supply of unnecessary iron.
        2. Doliva63
          Doliva63 8 May 2021 18: 01
          +2
          Quote: Anjay V.
          The fate, in the event of a war of equal opponents, will be decided by cheap and massive weapons


          Victor, I'm sorry, but you are stuck in the realities of at least the Cold War, if not an earlier era.

          In "wars of equals" now, neither tanks, nor planes, nor ships decide. Armies are used exclusively in obviously greenhouse conditions.

          Typical civilian delusion. The army must be ready for any war.
    4. Crimean partisan 1974
      Crimean partisan 1974 8 May 2021 15: 13
      -5
      Their firepower is already impressive,
      ......... what a firepower ... crowbars yes cumulative !!!!! also with blacks-loaders ..... here is the power ..... power is when there is no loader and the charging mechanism is not gets tired, the loading mechanism does not have diarrhea and other human ailments, the MZ and AZ is capable of pushing HE shells weighing 25 kg (this is how much the entire unitary shot of NATO 120 mm weighs) and pushing the UR into the breech .... this is the power
    5. vadim dok
      vadim dok 8 May 2021 16: 22
      -2
      Practical, of course, but not particularly cheap!
    6. Constanty
      Constanty 8 May 2021 16: 40
      +3
      Cheap and practical.


      148 of these "new" tanks = $ 1,1 billion. Cheap? I doubt it. It costs a trifle at $ 7,5 million apiece.
    7. Victor Tsenin
      Victor Tsenin 9 May 2021 03: 16
      -1
      200 jobs is, of course, powerful. 195 tanks are being upgraded, good. Cheap and practical, right, and besides, how did you understand the gun becomes a smooth-bore NATO? Until all this is near our borders, let's rejoice for Great Britain, if otherwise, hit it first, do you agree?
  2. Doccor18
    Doccor18 8 May 2021 11: 33
    0
    148 ... tanks.
    And then what is the point in them? 148 tanks for the entire army, but for 800 million pounds ...
    1. Anzhey V.
      Anzhey V. 8 May 2021 11: 43
      +7
      The British army isn't very big either, Doc.

      This is the point of being a member of NATO - a collective military potential)

      150 tanks from these, 200 more from those, three hundred there - and now there are already several thousand of them.
      1. Doccor18
        Doccor18 8 May 2021 11: 52
        +5
        Quote: Anjay V.
        ... This is the point of being a member of NATO - a collective military potential)

        150 tanks from these, another 200 from those, three hundred there ...

        Good afternoon, Anjay.
        The tank was the basis of the strike machine of the battlefield, a "consumable" in the offensive ... But now it is turning into a super-expensive machine, which it will be a pity to use into battle, because it is expensive ... Yes, and to create / revive an industrial resource for the sake of creating 150 machines. .? Just a "golden" tank comes out. But in a real conflict, even if of low intensity, this number is sorely insufficient ...
        1. Anzhey V.
          Anzhey V. 8 May 2021 11: 56
          +1
          And to create / reanimate an industrial resource for the sake of creating 150 machines ..?


          Good day)

          Why not? Moreover, this will be a deep modernization of old tanks - you see, someone else will catch up with the program. Britain still has tanks in reserve (albeit not enough), suddenly someone will buy them out and order an upgrade.

          In any case, these are good competencies for forming a reserve for combat vehicles in network-centric wars without much spending.
        2. OgnennyiKotik
          OgnennyiKotik 8 May 2021 11: 58
          0
          Quote: Doccor18
          But in a real conflict, even if of low intensity, this number is sorely insufficient.

          In a real conflict on tanks, the secondary, even the third role is assigned. Cleaning up the territory. The main combat operations are on aircraft and artillery. Then the infantry on armored vehicles, tanks, direct cover of the advancing i.e. infantry, directly behind them infantry fighting vehicles / armored personnel carriers, behind them tanks.
          Tank offensives are a distant past, wars in the Middle East have long made clear the current role of tanks.
          1. Doccor18
            Doccor18 8 May 2021 12: 16
            -3
            Quote: OgnennyiKotik
            In a real conflict on tanks, the secondary, even the third role is assigned. Cleaning up the territory. ... direct cover for the attacking, i.e. infantry, directly behind them infantry fighting vehicles / armored personnel carriers, behind them tanks ...
            Why then are they at all? A heavy infantry fighting vehicle with a 57 mm can also support the infantry. cannon, PU ATGM, machine guns. What is not given 57-mm. will be able to: self-propelled artillery / mortars / attack UAVs. What is the meaning of a tank? Use it as a mobile pillbox? And this with so many serious and inexpensive anti-tank weapons ...
            1. OgnennyiKotik
              OgnennyiKotik 8 May 2021 12: 35
              +1
              Quote: Doccor18
              Use it as a mobile pillbox? And this with so many serious and inexpensive anti-tank weapons

              Done right, therefore there is a reduction in the fleet of heavy / heavy tanks, a shift in emphasis on well-armored armored personnel carriers / infantry fighting vehicles and light / medium "tanks" (wheeled / tracked infantry fighting vehicles with 105/120 mm cannon)
            2. Anzhey V.
              Anzhey V. 8 May 2021 12: 42
              +1
              What is the meaning of a tank? Use it as a mobile pillbox? And this with so many serious and inexpensive anti-tank weapons.


              Yes, just a lot of tanks have already been built and they need to be stuck somewhere.

              This is how the trends described by you made themselves felt back in the 80s ...

              When the current stock of built tanks is completely exhausted, then, probably, the initiative will definitely go to self-propelled guns / light tanks.

              Why then are they at all? A heavy infantry fighting vehicle with a 57 mm can also support the infantry. cannon


              Good old land mine of large caliber: better in terms of price-efficiency ratio has not yet been invented, especially for direct fire)
    2. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 8 May 2021 11: 47
      +1
      Quote: Doccor18
      148 ... tanks.
      And then what is the point in them? 148 tanks for the entire army, but for 800 million pounds ...

      And they have all the SV is a couple of divisions. Enough for the expeditionary force as part of NATO.
      1. Lara Croft
        Lara Croft 8 May 2021 13: 35
        0
        Quote: Aaron Zawi
        And they have all the SV is a couple of divisions. Enough for the expeditionary force as part of NATO.

        Yes, it is better to have two full-fledged divisions than a "whole" TA as part of one TD or a "whole" OA near the borders with Ukraine as part of one MSD ...
        Our TA / OA, in terms of their numerical strength and combat strength, for the most part, even fall short of the AK ... but a bunch of regiments and g-s in fully deployed headquarters ...
        Structural changes are required in the ground forces and BS of the Russian Navy ...
    3. Ovsigovets
      Ovsigovets 8 May 2021 15: 25
      +3
      you know ... to have 148 tanks and NOT to have 148 tanks, the difference in the possibility is already 296 tanks)))) .... it seems to me that the rest will not be disposed of, but sent to storage bases
  3. Thrifty
    Thrifty 8 May 2021 11: 33
    +3
    Let's see how they and this decision will change 10 times a day. Although, abandoning the tank is a stupid idea! Moreover, it can be promoted for export. Or make it a pan-European tank so that there is less fire in the armies.
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 8 May 2021 11: 49
      +2
      Somehow, the challenger is not very exported!
      1. Lara Croft
        Lara Croft 8 May 2021 13: 45
        +3
        Quote: tralflot1832
        Somehow, the challenger is not very exported!

        It's true. Only Oman could drink Challenger 2 ...
    2. Lara Croft
      Lara Croft 8 May 2021 13: 44
      +2
      Quote: Thrifty
      Let's see how they and this decision will change 10 times a day.

      Yes, it seems that the British were not previously seen in this, the terms were postponed, but it was ...
      I have been reading "ZVO" since the 80s, like with the planning and development of the Armed Forces, they have always been fine ...
      1. Pete mitchell
        Pete mitchell 8 May 2021 19: 51
        +5
        Quote: Lara Croft
        I have been reading "ZVO" since the 80s, like with the planning and development of the Armed Forces, they have always been fine ...

        I didn't even subscribe to the murzilka, I immediately switched to the ZVO wink
        For the last two decades, there is too much business planning and politics in planning, and only then the military ... The situation began to change after a platoon was raided in Afghanistan, which fought back for a day and no one came to the rescue - there were no resources ... Sami the warriors are in shock: a mountain of problems with supplies and drugs, they are constantly being cut ... politics is his mother sorceress. About six seven years ago we talked back to the former captain of the 23rd regiment
        1. Lara Croft
          Lara Croft 8 May 2021 21: 27
          +1
          Quote: Pete Mitchell
          I didn't even subscribe to the murzilka, I immediately switched to the ZVO wink

          I first took to read from a neighbor (military), when I grew up, I began to subscribe ...
          About six seven years ago, talked back to the former captain of the 23rd regiment

          Probably they meant all the same 22nd (CAC) (Birmingham seems to be), tk. The 21st and 23rd belong to TA and are filled during the threatened period ...
          1. Pete mitchell
            Pete mitchell 8 May 2021 21: 36
            +3
            He left exactly from the reserve regiment, from the 23rd, well, he said so. Mentally, they were so loose and he dissuaded me from spending extra money, although he was going to spend money in their company request
            And the ZVO was the most interesting publication ...
            1. Lara Croft
              Lara Croft 8 May 2021 21: 48
              +3
              Quote: Pete Mitchell
              A ZVO was most interesting edition ...

              It's bad that I had ... I have all the magazines in my couch since 75, took them from a neighbor and bought them all in the local children's and youth library in the early 90s ... for a penny ...
              If the "ZVO" would have been the same as in the 80s, I probably would not have been sitting here ... some articles only on the sidelines, if you remember: "Fighting fog at airfields", "Foam camouflage", "mechanized brigade of Turkey in the conduct of hostilities in the mountains "," Combat in the city (according to the views of foreign NATO experts) "," Tank division of the FRG in the main types of combat ", tasks on tactics, eeeh .... now" ZVO "is more on" MK "looks like, rarely something slips ...
              1. Pete mitchell
                Pete mitchell 8 May 2021 21: 56
                +3
                Unfortunately. The development of aviation programs there was well planned, well, it was interesting to me in the first place. Later, when he collided closely with the RTV / ZRV / SAM, he also learned a lot from there. It's a bit of a pity that all this can be found by pressing the keys, there is no that charm: you are waiting for this magazine, you leaf through ... crying
  4. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 8 May 2021 11: 33
    +2
    148 tanks, this is not something. You can order wreaths for British tank building! And 97 km / h is the speed on the Autobahn or on rough terrain, off the cliff!
    1. Thrifty
      Thrifty 8 May 2021 11: 41
      +2
      Tralflot 1832, they generally wanted to cut these tanks! They are modernizing what is available, you see, and they will buy more new ones!
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 8 May 2021 11: 47
        +1
        So I understood they will make 2 Challengers 148 out of the remaining 3 Challengers 2. It seems that there will be only XNUMX battalions of tanks in the division and that's all. The rest are going to be transferred to light tanks or heavy armored personnel carriers.
        1. Lara Croft
          Lara Croft 8 May 2021 13: 54
          +2
          Quote: tralflot1832
          So I understand they will make 2 Challengers 148 out of the remaining 3 Challengers.

          Reduced from 227 to 148.
          It seems that the division will have only 2 battalions of tanks and that's all. The rest are going to be transferred to light tanks or heavy armored personnel carriers.

          They have 50 tanks in TB, unlike ours. There have already been articles about replacing the entire line of British armored combat vehicles, so there is a single concept for replacing the entire fleet of MBT and armored combat vehicles ...
          Great Britain is now in the third echelon of troops in Europe ...
          In the first Ukrainian Armed Forces on their T-64s and the Polish Army on their counterparts T-72 and second-hand Leopard-2, in the second Germany and the United States with the rest of the countries of the former ATS, on Abrams and Leopards-2 ...
    2. Viktor Sergeev
      Viktor Sergeev 8 May 2021 12: 09
      0
      Probably the storytellers dropped it from the plane and measured it, or installed the engine from the Shuttle.
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 8 May 2021 12: 15
        -2
        I, too, of this opinion, without Lewis Hemilton for the levers, will not develop anyway.
    3. Labrador
      Labrador 8 May 2021 12: 11
      +3
      You can order wreaths for British tank building!

      It is too early to order: this modernization program will help to preserve jobs for specialists. And preserving jobs will ensure the continuity of the school. So you can't bury it until 2030.
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 8 May 2021 12: 23
        +2
        The Vickers company took part in the tender for the modernization, but lost without receiving a contract. Vickers produced all the Challengers, but if you pick it, it built tanks from the First World War. The British themselves admitted Vickers lost her competence in tank building. Funeral music sounds like angelic singing according to Vickers.
    4. Albert1988
      Albert1988 8 May 2021 22: 03
      +2
      Quote: tralflot1832
      And 97 km / h is the speed on the Autobahn or on rough terrain, off a cliff!

      And this, most likely, is a mistake - there the speed of the latest modifications is a maximum of 67 km / h - the mass is huge, and so it was, it was further increased by adding a large number of remote sensing devices on the latest modifications.
  5. Orkraider
    Orkraider 8 May 2021 11: 46
    +2
    The contract will create 200 new jobs in the main production and 450 more in the UK suppliers.


    It's interesting, this is such an important component, especially in connection with

    is part of the overall defense strategy, which will reduce the size of the army to 72,5 thousand troops
    .

    In general, an incomprehensible fashion trend)))
    1. Trickster
      Trickster 8 May 2021 11: 59
      0
      The trend is understandable. Due to the development of drones, land is increasingly turning into sacrificial lambs, for the guys who sit at the console and play games.
      1. Albert1988
        Albert1988 8 May 2021 22: 06
        +1
        Quote: Trickster
        Due to the development of drones, land is increasingly turning into sacrificial lambs, for the guys who sit at the console and play games.

        Amendment - the land of backward opponents turns into sacrificial lambs thanks to drones, for a developed enemy there are "smart and beautiful" missiles. In general, it just became expensive: the tank itself is expensive, a lot of electronics, expensive to maintain, plus they are awesomely heavy - expensive to transport, the most expensive is to pay a qualified crew. A serious factor in the rise in prices is that you don't need a lot of tanks, because tank avalanches are no longer used. But all sorts of BMP / BTR / AFV breed like rabbits.
  6. Xlor
    Xlor 8 May 2021 11: 54
    -2
    I read that it is not economically profitable for them to produce their tanks, therefore, they are considering buying German Leopards ...
    1. Anzhey V.
      Anzhey V. 8 May 2021 12: 21
      -2
      I read that it is not economically profitable for them to produce their tanks, therefore, they are considering buying German Leopards ...


      It was many years ago, "Leo" has long changed their minds, especially since the Germans and the British "on opposite sides of the barricades")
      1. alpamys
        alpamys 8 May 2021 12: 41
        +2
        Quote: Anjay V.

        especially since the Germans and the British are "on opposite sides of the barricades")

        And the name of the company "Rheinmetall" in the article is German laughing
  7. Klingon
    Klingon 8 May 2021 11: 59
    +2
    Interestingly, on the Ch-3, the cap loading was left or did they switch to unitary ammunition ?? wassat
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 8 May 2021 13: 06
      +3
      Replaced. We switched to unitaries.
  8. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 8 May 2021 12: 03
    -1
    I'm talking about the dad of Challenger 3. Challenger 2 produced a little over 400 units, the only foreign exploiter Omman (18 units). Good tanks are not produced in such a series!
  9. Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev 8 May 2021 12: 05
    +5
    A tank weighing 65 tons will accelerate to 97 km / h only if a thousand engine is put on it at 2,5 l / s. Now let's estimate how much fuel this monster will eat. If Challenger 2, having an engine of 1200 hp, had a cruising range on the highway of 400 km, and the speed was less than 60 km / h, then how much will the engine eat twice as powerful, or where does the speed come from then under 2? If this has a significant power reserve, then there is a tank for caterpillars, or a significant power reserve means 100 kilometers.
    1. Albert1988
      Albert1988 8 May 2021 22: 07
      +1
      Quote: Victor Sergeev
      A tank weighing 65 tons will accelerate to 97 km / h.

      This typo - 67 km there, most likely))) And then - it will be greatly increased (although not a word about the modernization of the engine!) - he now has a speed on the highway - ridiculous 56 km / h ...
  10. Coconut
    Coconut 8 May 2021 12: 22
    -3
    In what color the threshing floor is not painted ... all the same, the remains of the threshing floor laughing
  11. JonnyT
    JonnyT 8 May 2021 12: 35
    +1
    Do not flatter yourself, the British are old tanks for conservation, and new ones in the ranks of the sun. In the case of a nix, they will be able to scrape together the bottom of the barrel for 500 combat-ready vehicles.

    So they don't need a lot, they have different tasks, unlike us. Western strategists see the tank as a combat unit for the defense of important objects. Those. next to the challenger there will always be warehouses, fuel, spare parts and other means of defense, reconnaissance. They are not going to fight in the fields, only near the cities, on the prepared lines of defense.
  12. orionvitt
    orionvitt 8 May 2021 12: 59
    +1
    The camouflage is valid. Keep it up.
  13. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 8 May 2021 13: 05
    +6
    The most important thing about this modification:
    replaced a strange rifled gun with a cap-loading
    the usual NATO smooth-bore.
    And they replaced the fire-hazardous hydraulic turn of the tower with an electric one.
    1. Aleks tv
      Aleks tv 8 May 2021 13: 29
      +2
      Quote: voyaka uh
      The most important thing about this modification:
      replaced a strange rifled gun with a cap-loading
      the usual NATO smooth-bore.
      And they replaced the fire-hazardous hydraulic turn of the tower with an electric one.

      Welcome.
      hi
      I noticed in the article "120mm for NATO standard" ...
      The Saxons have a RIPED "holy cow" L-11/30/55.
      Did they switch to "smooth" Rheinmetal?
      Have you decided to ditch your L23, 31 and replace them with the standard M829 / 830?

      Explain, please, somehow I missed this info ...

      1. OgnennyiKotik
        OgnennyiKotik 8 May 2021 15: 09
        +2
        Quote: Aleks tv
        120mm for NATO standard

        The article has infographics, everything is explained there, there will be L55A1

        Auto-translation.
        1. Aleks tv
          Aleks tv 8 May 2021 15: 32
          +1
          ... The article has infographics, everything is explained there, there will be L55A1

          Exactly.
          That is, "I didn't notice the elephant"))
          So they leave their rifled.

          Thank you!
          hi
          1. OgnennyiKotik
            OgnennyiKotik 8 May 2021 15: 55
            +2
            Quote: Aleks tv
            So they leave their rifled.

            The L55A1 is Rheinmetall's new smoothbore cannon.
            https://topwar.ru/107659-bolshe-shuma-dlya-leopardov-bundesvera.html
            Previously there was a rifled L30
            1. Aleks tv
              Aleks tv 8 May 2021 16: 10
              +2
              ... The L55A1 is Rheinmetall's new smoothbore cannon.

              Yes, I already dug it myself, I feel that something is "not right" ...
              Stopped in to correct my scribbles and saw your comment.
              Something closed me today:
              - L30, 55 calibers
              и
              -L55.
              laughing
              repeat

              Thanks again!
              hi
              ..........
              Give up, so the shaves.
              For a long time they were stubborn, for a long time))
    2. IS-80_RVGK2
      IS-80_RVGK2 8 May 2021 13: 39
      +3
      Quote: voyaka uh
      strange rifle

      So you yourself praised their rifled guns for their accuracy.
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 8 May 2021 14: 09
        +2
        It has no use in Europe. Inappropriate terrain.
        Low line of sight prevents shooting
        at 3-4.5 km with high accuracy.
  14. Stas1973
    Stas1973 8 May 2021 13: 20
    +1
    148 tanks are 3 not full battalions. And how will they exchange data in the absence of satellites? Which will be demolished on the very first day of the PSU?
    1. IS-80_RVGK2
      IS-80_RVGK2 8 May 2021 13: 37
      0
      Quote: Stas1973
      Which will be demolished on the very first day of the PSU?

      From a slingshot?
  15. Evil 55
    Evil 55 8 May 2021 13: 32
    -2
    4 battalions - two regiments .. Terribly huge military force ..
  16. bar
    bar 8 May 2021 13: 50
    +1
    Why do small British need tanks on the island? Are they preparing to fight separatism with Scotland?
  17. CommanderDIVA
    CommanderDIVA 8 May 2021 13: 57
    0
    This is a tank for anti-tank defense, like the Leopards and Abrams, they were designed on the basis of countering a huge number of Soviet tanks, which only the English Channel could stop, now these vehicles are conceptually outdated, although they are united into network-centric networks, the future belongs to heavy armored personnel carriers / infantry fighting vehicles and unmanned oversized tanks
    1. Usher
      Usher 8 May 2021 20: 05
      -2
      Quote: CommanderDIVA
      This is a tank for anti-tank defense, like the Leopards and Abrams, they were designed on the basis of countering a huge number of Soviet tanks, which only the English Channel could stop, now these vehicles are conceptually outdated, although they are united into network-centric networks, the future belongs to heavy armored personnel carriers / infantry fighting vehicles and unmanned oversized tanks

      Well, you haven't answered the question, why are there tanks on the islands?
  18. xorek
    xorek 8 May 2021 15: 01
    .
    Tanks will not help you Anglo-Saxons and especially who are you hiding there from our thieves and
    rob them .. quietly! Here are our tanks, these are tanks and especially their crews .. wink

    Such things are in the tank divisions of the Urals! soldier
    1. Aleks tv
      Aleks tv 8 May 2021 15: 40
      +1
      ... Such things are in the tank divisions of the Urals!

      In a tank division, Vitaly.
      DIVISIONS.

      The 90th Guards Tank Vitebsk-Novgorod twice the Red Banner Division.
      Ivan Mikhailovich rules her now. In Chebarkul and Ekb.
    2. Lara Croft
      Lara Croft 8 May 2021 15: 40
      +1
      Quote: xorek
      Such cases in tank divisions of the Urals !

      Harek in the Urals ONLY one TD (90th), and ALL in ALL ST RF there are TWO.
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  19. edelweiss968
    edelweiss968 8 May 2021 19: 56
    +1
    The new version of the British Challenger 3 tank is capable of speeds up to 97 km / h

    the author burns, after 70 km / h the tracked vehicles are uncontrollable! teach materiel!
  20. edelweiss968
    edelweiss968 8 May 2021 20: 04
    +1
    Compared to the Challenger Mk.2, the Mk.3 has lost some of its dynamics. An engine with a capacity of 1200 l / s and a mass of 65 tons, gives a specific power of 18.5 hp / t. The maximum forward speed is 56 km / h. https://wiki.warthunder.ru/Challenger_Mk.3
  21. Synoid
    Synoid 9 May 2021 03: 47
    -1
    nnbtoT
    Quote: Anjay V.
    The British army isn't very big either, Doc.

    This is the point of being a member of NATO - a collective military potential)

    150 tanks from these, 200 more from those, three hundred there - and now there are already several thousand of them.

    Exactly on paper, but they forgot about the ravines)) None of NATO will fight for the Baltic states or Poland, in the event of a hypothetical conflict with the Russian Federation. The maximum supply of weapons, if they have logistics within a week, otherwise there will be no one. WWII France and England silently watch as their allies are absorbed by the Third Reich. The maximum task of these tanks is to detain the enemy in front of the English Channel, in order, as in the previous time, shamefully to escape to the island.
  22. Shuttle
    Shuttle 9 May 2021 17: 04
    0
    Why do the British need tanks? Who is going to attack them from land?
  23. av58
    av58 10 May 2021 00: 12
    0
    Interesting, but not scary. It would be interesting to see what the combat effectiveness of this tank and the crew will be in the event of a 152 high-explosive projectile hitting it. You don't even need to pierce the armor.
  24. NF68
    NF68 11 May 2021 16: 10
    0
    The new version of the British Challenger 3 tank is capable of speeds up to 97 km / h,


    Whether 97 km / h will be too much. 67 km / h looks real. Even 77 km / h can be believed if you install an engine with a capacity of about 2000 hp. For example MTU MT 883 Ka-501 CR with a capacity of 1630 hp. Or a more powerful version that develops 2038 hp.