The United States announced a request from the European allies to postpone the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan

Materials appeared in the American press, which speak of a request to Washington from European countries. This request is connected with the presence of troops in Afghanistan.

The WSJ reports that the US coalition allies have asked Washington to postpone the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan. It is argued that the European contingents allegedly cannot be promptly withdrawn at the same time as the United States contingent, since they do not have time to organize logistics.

Recall that the American authorities intend to begin a phased withdrawal of their contingent from this month, and complete by September 11. Such plans were outlined in the American administration. At the same time, the Americans deployed several hundred more of their troops to Afghanistan, saying that "this will ensure a proper withdrawal for the contingent in the country, both the United States and its coalition allies."

In this regard, the very request from the same European allies raises questions. If the United States promised a withdrawal by September 11, then why does the German letter referred to by the American press say about a request to postpone the withdrawal until July 18?

It is noteworthy that the WSJ also indicates the answer to the German request. This response states that the United States "at the request of the allies is ready to postpone the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan for two or more weeks."

One gets the impression that a certain bargaining continues around the presence of the NATO contingent in Afghanistan, and the same Americans are trying to find the most favorable conditions for themselves. At the same time, the search for the optimal route for withdrawing the contingent is carried out. One of the previously discussed options is the withdrawal through Indian airspace to one of the US bases in the Middle East, followed by dispersal to other US military bases.

Comments

[rotmistr60]

How reluctant to leave and thereby admit his military shame. At first, for a "successful and safe" withdrawal, they brought in an additional several hundred and drove in strategic bombers (?). Now there is a reason to slow down, tk. European "allies" are tearfully asking for a delay. And besides that, how can one part with the plantations, which made it possible for the CIA to purchase weapons for international terrorists without resorting to spending the budget and at the same time poisoning Europe and neighboring countries with drugs.

[LiSiCyn]

There is no American defeat in Afghanistan. There is a systematic work. At first, they failed to use the Taliban to protect their interests in the region in the 90s. Then the Americans bombed the Taliban and entered Afghanistan.

All tactical operational tasks have been solved in 20 years. The drug market is under the control of the CIA, from Bagram you can follow the Russians, Chinese, Iranians. The American military-industrial complex has received billions of dollars in orders. Firms involved in logistics supplies too. The economy of war. The war is turbulent - the grandmas are spinning.

Where, excuse me, is the defeat? Oh, they are leaving, yes. So they surrender the country to the Taliban. Was it in vain that the United States nursed them for ten years? They were negotiating, an embassy was opened for them in Qatar. The day before yesterday the Taliban took the city of Baghlan. Look at the map where it is. North of the country. 20 years ago, the territory of the Northern Alliance and the Taliban were not close there. Yes, even 10 years ago. Here is the result of the American presence. The ruler shows how much from Baglan to the Tajik border.

The American army will leave, and then these will be our problems. They came, solved their questions, left, leaving us with a bunch of strongly religious psychos with weapons at our side. I would like to ask a respected expert - is it really a defeat?

In fact, sooner or later it will become a problem for the country. I'm talking about the level of military analytics and the lack of serious think tanks capable of giving a clear analysis and a real picture of the situation in a particular region. Not to say what someone really wants to hear, but to tell what we will actually face in the very near future.

And most importantly, how to prepare for this and take action.

Not mine ... From the vastness of the Internet.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: LiSiCyn

I'm talking about the level of military analytics and the lack of serious think tanks capable of giving a clear analysis and a real picture of the situation in a particular region. Not to say what someone really wants to hear, but to tell, what we will actually face in the very near future.

And for most users, your message is more than enough. Nicely painted. Only you, and we, together with you, and other "multi-literate" analysts will not be able to predict how all this presence may turn out. Only one thing is clear and understandable, in the built world economic system, Afghanistan is destined for the place of “Columbia of the Eastern Hemisphere”. Prepared without Russian participation. Without our permission or even notice. We can only conclude: does Russia need this problem in the underbelly and what role is prepared for Tajikistan in this?

Quote: LiSiCyn

And the most important thing, how to prepare for this and take action.

How can you prepare for death? Spread some straw? It is necessary not to prepare for events, but to prevent their occurrence. Specifically? We need to sort out the “Tajik buffer”, what good can it give us. These Ravshans and Dzhamshuts suit only certain Russian structures, as a semi-free labor force. And the drugs entering the Russian Federation also have certain roots.
I understand everything: you can use electronic money transfers, you can remotely conclude business agreements, but the transportation of goods via the Internet has not yet been mastered.
And our government can only prepare for the upcoming parliamentary elections. Or do you think that some Potanin or Usmanovs are interested in the problems of Russia in the area of ​​the Tajik border and curious about the fate of the 201st military base? Yes, they don't care. The country is only interested in what makes a profit.

[hydrox]

With base 201, nothing will happen, except that it will require strengthening of border intelligence and electronic warfare, since before the CIA exported drugs through its WB, and the Taliban will not have such capabilities (except that the United States will take part in drug logistics with them), but one thing it is clear that the number of drugs in our direction will increase markedly. In addition, the border will need to be placed on a powerful electronic lock, including autonomous shock drones operating in automatic mode.

[rruvim]

How is it possible to control the flow of drugs through Kazakhstan? The border is almost 1500 km., Continuous steppes. Astrakhan is practically, in power structures, under Kazakhs and Dagestanis. The Americans have built the logistics of transporting and importing drugs, and therefore they are leaving.

[rruvim]

I was in Astrakhan in 2019, where the entire Fish Conservation consists of ethnic Kazakhs. A very simple way of delivering narik from Turkmenistan across the Caspian, Afghan of course.

[rruvim]

Absolutely agree!!! We will have to solve problems with this drug dungeon with China. But the blow will be more on Iran.

[Finches]

The United States has no allies, only sixes and bedding! Poor Afghanistan, the only period when this country lived more or less with dignity and fluttered was the period when a limited Soviet contingent was in it!

[Sergej1972]

Under the royal regime, it was not bad there. And by the way, the USSR from the mid 20
century provided massive assistance to Afghanistan in all areas. Royal Afghanistan was considered a friend of the USSR. Our specialists, teachers, geologists, archeologists worked there. The whole Polytechnic Institute was built in the 60s. Houses and industrial facilities were built. And the attitude towards the Soviets was the most positive. If it were not for Daoud's coup, and then the PDPA came to power, it is difficult to say how Afghanistan would have developed in the future. I still do not understand the story of the storming of Amin's palace. On the military side, it was carried out brilliantly, but on the moral and political side, they acted, frankly, meanly. They killed a man who himself invited our troops, who was a great communist and a friend of the USSR compared to Karmal. Anyway, later it was necessary to call to power Najibullah, who was originally from the Amin faction.

[Soveticos]

Not negotiable, definitely. Under any pretext concocted, they will remain, even pay their "opponents" to shoot at them. They did not climb in order to leave without thoroughly robbing the country's natural resources. This is a ready-made testing ground for them for testing various, even prohibited, weapons. Plus give up your poppy plantations? Nah, Americans are not stupid. Surely they will leave some reserves all the same.

[Humpty]

Quote: Soveticos

They did not climb in order to leave without thoroughly robbing the country's natural resources.

Have you taken away hundreds of oil? Resource extraction is a major investment. Nobody is eager to invest in them yet.

[Commissar77]

I hope after the departure of the amers, Russia will extend its influence to Afghanistan, an important region in the underbelly of Central Asia. There is no need to bring in troops, but diplomats and special services may have to work.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Military Commissar77

I hope after the departure of the Amers, Russia will extend its influence to Afghanistan, an important region in the underbelly of Central Asia.

Even if NATO withdraws its troops, there will be a "mess" in Afghanistan for a long time, where there would be no talk of any influence.

[Thrifty]

The Yankees want to have time to collect a new crop of opium poppy before they leave, so that they get all the drugs! Hence, the timing of the dumping of the Yankees from Afghanistan is shifted to the right. ..

[Egoza]

Quote: Thrifty

Hence, the timing of the dumping of the Yankees from Afghanistan is shifted to the right. ..

Aha! "We are not late, but we were asked to stay!" Yes, so that all of you there are poisoned with that opium!

[Humpty]

The little macaques became scared, and you can't hide without the Americans. But what about their advanced technology and high GDP per capita. Are they really not saving ...

[LiSiCyn]

Alexander, welcome!
Did you wash the lamps?

Quote: Humpty

Little macaques became scared

And how ... Mattresses do not mind equipment and equipment. Troops will take out by air and "Hello Chaos" ...
Then there will be "brave" Georgians babbling: "Katso, I am not wine .. I climbed in to look, he went himself."

[Humpty]

Quote: LiSiCyn

Mattresses for equipment and equipment are not a pity.

The Americans want to leave Afghanistan in the care of the Central Asian republics, under some of their control. Even money is invested in completely non-virtual programs. American aid, you probably know.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Humpty

The Americans want to leave Afghanistan in the care of the Central Asian republics, under some of their control.

Most likely, the Afghans will take over the Central Asian republics.

[Humpty]

Quote: tihonmarine

Most likely, the Afghans will take over the Central Asian republics.

The Uzbeks can resist.

[hydrox]

It is still necessary to see how the Uzbeks will oppose the creation of the Sultan's Great Turan ...

[Humpty]

Quote: hydrox

It is still necessary to see how the Uzbeks will oppose the creation of the Sultan's Great Turan ...

Someone, but the Uzbeks need Turan as the northern fox's fifth leg. Outside Turkey, people with limited capacity are talking about him, and not all of them.
In the future, Uzbekistan will strive for its more natural borders or zones of influence, trade relations. Personally, it doesn't bother me.

[Vadim Ananyin]

Doubtful request and it seems that drugs have nothing to do with it.
Stir up something or have some kind of conceived.

[tralflot1832]

We were sitting at our super-protected bases, with supply of helicopters. And they were going to take out the equipment, and everything around was mined, there were no maps, but the bearded ones had pushed their own.

[Evil 55]

The year is just not specified ... In Matrastan they like to change dates, and pretend to be a wolf in sheep's clothing ..

[parusnik]

NATO is better in Afghanistan than the Taliban at the borders of Central Asia. The picture will change, Russia will fight the Taliban, and NATO will support the Taliban and local fanatics in the Central Asian republics.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: parusnik

The picture will change, Russia will fight the Taliban, and NATO will support the Taliban and local fanatics in the Central Asian republics.

But the Taliban will remove all drugs in Afghanistan.

[Grits]

Quote: parusnik

NATO is better in Afghanistan than the Taliban at the borders of Central Asia. The picture will change, Russia will fight the Taliban, and NATO will support the Taliban and local fanatics in the Central Asian republics.

Exactly. It would be better if the Americans would sit there for life, waste resources, and more often the coffins were taken from there to their homeland. And the Taliban would have something to do instead of looking north.

[rocket757]

The United States announced a request from the European allies to postpone the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan

... Who did not have time, that .... and the sheriff worries about the problems ... allies ???
An interesting question, of course ...
So it looks like a kidok.

[cniza]

Good time!

They are trying to dissolve the Taliban, but in vain ...

[rocket757]

Welcome
The striped people have already put an end to this problem, because they are suffering financial losses, they have spoiled their image.
The main thing is that they set out to rip off the world by another method ... now they will be concentrated there!

[cniza]

Yes, they will go where the profit is greater ...

[den3080]

Quote: rocket757

The United States announced a request from the European allies to postpone the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan

... Who did not have time, that .... and the sheriff worries about the problems ... allies ???
An interesting question, of course ...
So it looks like a kidok.

Well, what kidok?
Now "at the numerous requests of the working people" they will say: Well, okay ... we stay, but you will not pay for it, gentlemen asking. OK?
And then why not stay? Germany and the rest of the applicants are paying, that is, the costs are 0.
And know yourself, count the profits from the opium and heroin trade.
Lafa !!

[rocket757]

Quote: den3080

Well, what kidok?

Among the "real boys" this is exactly what is called!
If it did not reach the "junior partners" ... well, they should be the youngest until the end of time.

[tihonmarine]

At the same time, the Americans deployed several hundred of their troops to Afghanistan, stating that "this will ensure a proper withdrawal for the contingent in the country, both the United States and its coalition allies."

The "withdrawal of NATO troops from Afghanistan" is just an excuse, but in reality the United States is introducing an additional contingent ..

[rocket757]

Boom look ...
If they give them over to their PMCs ... there is some kind of gain in this. At least, it will be more difficult to hang the loss / defeat on the state. And there is no smell of winning, they have already understood it.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: rocket757

If they give them over to their PMCs ... there is some kind of gain in this.

They will give it away, and they will not let the drugs out of their hands.

[rocket757]

For big uncles, "white" is pf-e .... they have a theme, now much fatter, it is being realized!
Here's to spoil your image, WINNERS, everyone and everything, they do not want to spoil ... in this matter they have no ice, continuous chatter.

[Pandiurin]

Quote: rocket757

For big uncles, "white" is pf-e .... they have a theme, now much fatter, it is being realized!
Here's to spoil your image, WINNERS, everyone and everything, they do not want to spoil ... in this matter they have no ice, continuous chatter.

Generally they say that the biggest profits are on guns and drugs. Well, maybe not the biggest, but the money there is not small, that's for sure. For a state like the United States, this is of course a penny, but the United States fights even for smaller amounts.

In fact, people who are associated with Afghan in the United States, the army, PMCs, intelligence have the opportunity to earn huge sums for themselves personally.

For the United States as a state, this is not so much a financial topic as a tool.
Funding for CIA Operations:
1. Not tracked
2. Self-financing

Undermining of statehood in those countries where drugs are supplied, including transit countries.

Creation of channels of interaction, agent channels, agents of influence.
If there are drug contacts with criminals, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, politicians.
Then you can talk with them not only about deliveries, but also eliminate any person, arrange riots on social issues or national - religious or even stir up a coup.

Even if the United States withdraws from Afghanistan, it will try to maintain control over drug trafficking.

It is beneficial and necessary for them.

[rocket757]

Now GLOBALISTS have come to power in striped areas!
They have very big plans of their own, incl. how to get big money out of NOTHING !!! From clean air, from chatter about global warming ... i.e. HUGE BANKS FOR NOTHING !!!
Right now, they really do not need image losses, when they proclaimed themselves world saviors, winners of everyone and everything !!!
For these, in this situation, "white" is nothing, the image is EVERYTHING!

[Pandiurin]

Quote: rocket757

Now GLOBALISTS have come to power in striped areas!
They have very big plans of their own, incl. how to get big money out of NOTHING !!! From clean air, from chatter about global warming ... i.e. HUGE BANKS FOR NOTHING !!!
Right now, they really do not need image losses, when they proclaimed themselves world saviors, winners of everyone and everything !!!
For these, in this situation, "white" is nothing, the image is EVERYTHING!

Well, actually, the legalization of drugs is just a trick of globalists and democrats.
Then do not be confused to declare yourself as white and fluffy and be them in fact, do you seriously think that democrats will act according to democratic principles both at home and abroad, without double standards? )))

Again, making money on a national scale is quite different and on a different scale.

Drug trafficking from Afghanistan is not about making money, it is a self-funded secret tool for the "white and furry" CIA.
No one can prove anything if the operation was funded by heroin briquettes. If the US investigation in its own Congress suddenly leads no traces too. there was no funding for the operation. Financial documents are at least some evidence / traces. And so it turns out that there is nothing.

In addition, drug trafficking is a connection and a variant of an agent network, agents of influence.
Moreover, all this is secret and secret, nothing can be proved. If a journalist starts an investigation, then he will be banned in Google, fired from the magazine - TV, and will not understand that something will happen to him.

Democrats have complete control over the media.
They freely make black white and vice versa, or more often they shift attention to something else. They don't have to worry about their image, everything is under control there.

[rocket757]

Quote: Pandiurin

... They don't have to worry about their image, everything is under control.

Everything is not always under control! Various events have already shown this many times.
In my opinion ... in your opinion, in short, we see differently, that's all.
Now only time and upcoming events will dot Yo!

[cniza]

The United States announced a request from the European allies to postpone the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan

Oh, how familiar it sounds ...

[rocket757]

Yes, they threw allies ... for the first time, or something.

[cniza]

I think they can also blame ...

[rocket757]

It's easy ... they pull victories on themselves, they blame the defeat on their "partners".

[cniza]

Yes, this is their favorite maneuver ...

[Pandiurin]

Quote: cniza

The United States announced a request from the European allies to postpone the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan

Oh, how familiar it sounds ...

Logistics (not so good with it) but it is entirely in the hands of the United States.
If the United States does not organize the withdrawal of its allies from the coalition, then they will not be able to go anywhere.
Unless they go out in private like civilians.

Apparently, the United States explained to its partners that due to a coincidence of insurmountable circumstances, they will not be able to leave Afghanistan until the fall.

Naturally, the partners cried out, don't leave us in this wild country)

[Humpty]

Quote: parusnik

Asia, the picture will change, Russia will fight the Taliban, and NAT

You were not interested in the Taliban if they have a desire and motive to fight with Russia? Except for the conventional Taliban, what kind of extremists and thugs are not hanging around. They are now the Americans are not ordering against Russia to climb.

[Pandiurin]

Quote: Humpty

Quote: parusnik

Asia, the picture will change, Russia will fight the Taliban, and NAT

You were not interested in the Taliban if they have a desire and motive to fight with Russia? Except for the conventional Taliban, what kind of extremists and thugs are not hanging around. They are now the Americans are not ordering against Russia to climb.

And here is the desire, they have a mentality and a way of life - war.

Fought -> earned -> bought weapons, ammunition, ammunition -> ready for new hostilities.
Where to sow, harvest, graze livestock here?

If there is an opportunity to earn money by smuggling / fighting with our Asian republics, they will do it.
If this "activity" itself does not generate income, then there will be those who will pay for it, for example, with the supply of weapons.

[Humpty]

Quote: Pandiurin

our Asian republics, they will do it.

In reality, it is not even the Afghan gangsters who are worse, but the fact that there are a couple of proud republics here, completely and completely dependent on Russia and from which, from themselves, it is not clear what to expect.

[Prisoner]

Already struck nostalgia. "Meeting the wishes of the workers".

[xorek]

Materials appeared in the American press, which speak of a request to Washington from European countries. This request is connected with the presence of troops in Afghanistan.

Ha ha ha ha .. Well, damn it, they could not invent something else .. Soon the plantations of poppy, hemp will begin to sow ..))) What a withdrawal of troops here! You can't get them out of there now, even if the United States collapses, their bases in Afghanistan will defend for a long time ...

These are the things in space exploration ..

[Klingon]

Yes, and do not care, let their bangs continue to screw up all the holes