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The Israeli fleet has been replenished with the second corvette of the Saar 6 project

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The Israeli Navy received the second corvette of the Saar 6 project. The ceremony of handing over the ship and raising the Israeli flag took place on May 4, 2021 at the Kieler Werft TKMS shipyard in Kiel, Germany.


Thus, Israel received the second out of four corvette ordered under an intergovernmental agreement concluded in 2015. According to the agreement, Germany builds only the ship itself, and Israel installs weapons and electronic equipment independently on its territory.

The entry of all four corvettes into the Israeli Navy, after being fully equipped, should take place in 2021-2022, but most likely, the dates will be shifted to the right due to additional equipment and necessary tests.

Corsets of the Saar 6 project were developed on the basis of the German project MEKO A100 (and variations for the German Navy of the K130 project). The total displacement of the Saar 6 Corvette Project is in 1900 tons, the ship’s length is 92 m, the width is 13,5 m and the draft is more than 4 m. The crew is about 70 people.

According to open data, the corvette's anti-aircraft and anti-missile weapons include a 32-charge medium and long-range air defense system Barak 8 and two 40-charge launchers of the C-Dome tactical missile defense system (the naval version of the Iron Dome).

In addition, the ships will be armed with 16 PU PKR, 324-mm torpedo tubes for anti-submarine torpedoes Raytheon Mk 54 and helicopter Sikorsky SH-60 Seahawk. Artillery armament will be limited to two 25-mm Rafael Typhoon remote-controlled artillery mounts (with the possibility of using also Rafael Spike-ER missiles from these mounts).
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  1. Ruslan Sulima
    Ruslan Sulima 5 May 2021 13: 40
    -6
    Are Germans paying off historical debts?
    1. Lara Croft
      Lara Croft 5 May 2021 14: 19
      -12%
      Quote: Ruslan Sulima
      Are Germans paying off historical debts?

      For every corvette of Israeli Jews there is a pair of RCA of the ARE Navy ... fellow
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      2. ironic
        ironic 5 May 2021 15: 30
        -1
        Who will not know how they were sunk, as it was already ... request
    2. ironic
      ironic 5 May 2021 15: 31
      -3
      Only in the form of a discount.
    3. Ruslan Sulima
      Ruslan Sulima 5 May 2021 20: 02
      -10%
      Thank you, moderators!
      Block! You do not like? And to hell with you ..
      1. Ruslan Sulima
        Ruslan Sulima 5 May 2021 20: 15
        -2
        Cry, cry, but all over ...
        1. ironic
          ironic 6 May 2021 01: 27
          0
          I just imagined the administrator drenched in tears. Crying over every deleted post.
      2. ironic
        ironic 6 May 2021 01: 26
        0
        And what is this for? The Russian Federation and Israel are not going to fight each other. Divers in the Caucasus Mountains?
  2. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 5 May 2021 13: 40
    -3
    Is today the day of Israel? Although, on the other hand, we have no excesses? Can we discuss others!
    1. dauria
      dauria 5 May 2021 13: 59
      0
      You can also discuss others!


      laughing Need to! What are the four "holes" in the starboard side in the photo? Specialists, please explain.
      1. Serg65
        Serg65 5 May 2021 14: 06
        +4
        Quote: dauria
        Specialists, please explain.

        Electricians Bashirov and Petrov ....
        1. Bashkirkhan
          Bashkirkhan 5 May 2021 14: 17
          -1
          Quote: Serg65
          Electricians Bashirov and Petrov ....

          These are clearly traces of champagne bottles. Overjoyed how much they split.
        2. ironic
          ironic 5 May 2021 15: 33
          -1
          No, those who once looked in our direction with this case did not have Navalny's happiness and did not leave the plane, the rank of major general did not help ... wink
      2. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 5 May 2021 14: 07
        -1
        And you big-eyed, we will look. In the photo they look like inlets, following the traces of soot around. But the false pipe is present and without traces of soot. Cool.
        1. Bashkirkhan
          Bashkirkhan 5 May 2021 14: 21
          +1
          Quote: tralflot1832
          In the photo, they look like inlets, following the traces of soot around.

          The Germans paint over these areas.
          1. tralflot1832
            tralflot1832 5 May 2021 14: 30
            -4
            So what is it, the exhaust of the main engine? How much space did they lose then? Do they live like herring in a barrel?
            1. Bashkirkhan
              Bashkirkhan 5 May 2021 14: 39
              +7
              Soot from diesel engines, main and auxiliary.
              1. Oleg Olkha
                Oleg Olkha 5 May 2021 21: 53
                +2
                Extreme from diesel generators, medium, from something auxiliary. Exhaust from the main engine is below the waterline "into the water", on both sides. It can be clearly seen here by clicking and enlarging with the mouse https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%A7%D7%95%D7%91%D7%A5:INS_Magen._VI.jpg
        2. And Us Rat
          And Us Rat 5 May 2021 15: 40
          +7
          Quote: tralflot1832
          But the false pipe is present without any traces of soot.

          This is one way to reduce visibility. The exhaust from the upper pipe is visible through the thermal imager for tens of kilometers. Near the water, it is better hidden by the horizon line and cools faster.
          1. OgnennyiKotik
            OgnennyiKotik 5 May 2021 19: 15
            +2
            And the Germans are great, a great solution. This allowed the second tower with electronic equipment to be shifted to the stern. In the space where the exhaust pipe is usually, place 2 * 4 anti-ship missiles and 2 * 8 Barak 8.



            1. And Us Rat
              And Us Rat 5 May 2021 19: 31
              +8
              Quote: OgnennyiKotik
              And the Germans are great, a great solution.

              But it's not entirely German. It is Israeli, it was used in the Saar-5 project, built by the Yankees according to Israeli drawings.



              And also in the project Saar-S72, Israeli shipyards.

              1. OgnennyiKotik
                OgnennyiKotik 5 May 2021 19: 48
                -3
                Quote: And Us Rat
                used in the Saar-5 project

                In the center, there is clearly a pipe for the exhaust.
                1. And Us Rat
                  And Us Rat 5 May 2021 21: 02
                  0
                  Quote: OgnennyiKotik
                  In the center, there is clearly a pipe for the exhaust.

                  And I'm not talking about the pipe, I'm talking about ...
                  move the second tower with electronic equipment to the stern.

                  hi
                  1. OgnennyiKotik
                    OgnennyiKotik 5 May 2021 21: 08
                    -2
                    Ahh, I'm talking about the exhaust, on the same Saar 5, it takes up a lot of space, as in the examples that I threw off.
                    1. And Us Rat
                      And Us Rat 5 May 2021 21: 43
                      +4
                      Quote: OgnennyiKotik
                      Ahh, I'm talking about the exhaust

                      This is generally an ancient solution, but as a rule it was used on small boats.
      3. Cowbra
        Cowbra 5 May 2021 14: 12
        -22%
        Quote: dauria
        What are the four "holes" in the starboard side in the photo?

        Go, the Jews out of habit tried to drive away trough, like in France in its time. Held fireworks repeat
        1. ironic
          ironic 5 May 2021 15: 28
          +1
          Where do they sell such bullshit? request
          1. Cowbra
            Cowbra 5 May 2021 20: 57
            -5
            Quote: ironic
            Where do they sell such bullshit?

            In Cherbourg. What, bots on VO do not know the history of their owner now?
            https://warspot.ru/10793-ugon-sherburskih-katerov
            1. ironic
              ironic 5 May 2021 22: 46
              +3
              You do not even understand why I wrote the previous post to you. Reflection does not allow, I understand. Actually, I loved history since school, but in the Soviet school I was taught to be curious. You have not been taught to see ... Well, you, as a bot on VO, do not know why the holes, except for the fireworks. You, as a bot, only perceive the uryaks, that's the fireworks reflection. And the reflection on the owners is persistent, while zombies cannot be independent. lol
    2. for
      for 6 May 2021 20: 05
      0
      Quote: tralflot1832
      Today is Israel Day

      These are the years of Ukraine for sure, although the break was for Syria.
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    1. Dym71
      Dym71 5 May 2021 13: 58
      0
      Quote: Professor
      The national flag of Germany was lowered and the flag of Israel was raised.

      In the photo, the flag (Landesflagge) of the state of Schleswig-Holstein, the capital of which is the city of Kiel. hi
  4. Keyser soze
    Keyser soze 5 May 2021 13: 48
    +15
    They stuffed something unstoppable into this ship and added a turntable on top.
    1. lucul
      lucul 5 May 2021 14: 16
      -22%
      They stuffed something unstoppable into this ship and added a turntable on top.

      They sacrificed seaworthiness, it is better for him not to stick out of the port in a storm.
      1. Professor
        Professor 5 May 2021 15: 21
        +9
        Quote: lucul
        They stuffed something unstoppable into this ship and added a turntable on top.

        They sacrificed seaworthiness, it is better for him not to stick out of the port in a storm.

        Do you think the Germans have forgotten how to calculate the metacentric height?


        In project


        In construction


        Home
        1. ironic
          ironic 5 May 2021 15: 36
          -3
          According to evoyny, this is a kind of uryaka. He grunted something, as it seems to him, patriotic.
          1. lucul
            lucul 5 May 2021 17: 15
            -8
            According to evoyny, this is a kind of uryaka. He grunted something, as it seems to him, patriotic.

            Aza-ahah holy faith in the power of the Jews interrupts all faith in the world.
            Therefore, where am I to you)))))
            1. ironic
              ironic 5 May 2021 17: 28
              -3
              Jews are not commanded to believe, Jews are commanded to know. And the word “Jew” was invented by anti-Semites and imposed on the Jews by force. If you are about knowledge, then this is the code for us to you, after all, faith is always above knowledge, especially if it is faith in urya ... lol
              1. lucul
                lucul 5 May 2021 17: 31
                -3
                If you are about knowledge, then this is the code for us to you, after all, faith is always above knowledge, especially if it is faith in urya ...

                Yes-yes-yes Tsakhal (Red Army ) the strongest)))
                1. ironic
                  ironic 5 May 2021 18: 03
                  -2
                  Why should we be the strongest? We are not worried about the great-power ChSV. wink
              2. Soldatov V.
                Soldatov V. 8 May 2021 20: 37
                -1
                Jews are one of the 13 tribes of Jews if I'm not mistaken.
                1. ironic
                  ironic 9 May 2021 13: 09
                  0
                  One of 12. The best preserved to this day.
        2. lucul
          lucul 5 May 2021 17: 14
          -3
          Do you think the Germans have forgotten how to calculate the metacentric height?

          I wrote about the seaworthiness of this ship when the first ship of this series appeared.
          I'm too lazy to repeat myself.
          1. ironic
            ironic 5 May 2021 17: 30
            -3
            Have you tried to retrain on hahlama? You should be able to do it. laughing
            1. lucul
              lucul 5 May 2021 17: 34
              -5
              Have you tried to retrain on hahlama? You should be able to do it.

              Aha-ahah "he who has eyes, let him see"
              Check out the article about the first corvette of this series - everything is there.
              1. ironic
                ironic 5 May 2021 17: 59
                +4
                All that is about the corvette is that the first in the series had flaws in the control system, which were eliminated and therefore there is nothing more to look at .... Oh yes, the nose is short, seaworthiness is zero. I read somewhere similar arguments about seaworthiness ... oh yes, about the American failed iron, which should sink in a storm. It turned out that in a storm it allows launching rockets that Burke could not launch.
          2. Professor
            Professor 5 May 2021 20: 25
            0
            Quote: lucul
            Do you think the Germans have forgotten how to calculate the metacentric height?

            I wrote about the seaworthiness of this ship when the first ship of this series appeared.
            I'm too lazy to repeat myself.

            To repeat to whom? Once again, have the Germans forgotten how to calculate the metacenretic height? Have they forgotten what rolling on irregular waves is? wink
        3. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 5 May 2021 20: 06
          +4
          Quote: Professor
          They sacrificed seaworthiness, it is better for him not to stick out of the port in a storm.

          Do you think the Germans have forgotten how to calculate the metacentric height?

          The seaworthiness of a ship, its ability to develop cruising speed in various sea conditions, is determined not only by its stability, but also by its ability not to resonate with the oncoming wave from any side, and "along the bow" in particular. And here the main role is played by the bow contours, the geometry of the bottom configuration.
          If the hull of the ship is not "new", then you can focus on the seaworthiness of the previous ships built on the same "platform", i.e. with the same body.
          The developed superstructure, naturally, will play its role in decreasing the metacentric height, but a tendency towards "rolliness" may appear. Considering the small size and the number of weapons mounted on the boat, there are doubts that ballast tanks of the required capacity are provided that can increase the metacentric height and affect the decrease in the ship's roll on the side wave.
          Summary.
          The sea will show ...
          1. Professor
            Professor 5 May 2021 20: 49
            -2
            Quote: stalkerwalker
            Quote: Professor
            They sacrificed seaworthiness, it is better for him not to stick out of the port in a storm.

            Do you think the Germans have forgotten how to calculate the metacentric height?

            The seaworthiness of a ship, its ability to develop cruising speed in various sea conditions, is determined not only by its stability, but also by its ability not to resonate with the oncoming wave from any side, and "along the bow" in particular. And here the main role is played by the bow contours, the geometry of the bottom configuration.
            If the hull of the ship is not "new", then you can focus on the seaworthiness of the previous ships built on the same "platform", i.e. with the same body.
            The developed superstructure, naturally, will play its role in decreasing the metacentric height, but a tendency towards "rolliness" may appear. Considering the small size and the number of weapons mounted on the boat, there are doubts that ballast tanks of the required capacity are provided that can increase the metacentric height and affect the decrease in the ship's roll on the side wave.
            Summary.
            The sea will show ...

            I studied Ship Theory with Professor Remez, did you? wink

            The Germans have always known how to make steamers. I do not doubt the seaworthiness of this corvette for a minute. Now, if they ordered it from the Turks or the Chinese, then it was necessary to strain.
            1. stalkerwalker
              stalkerwalker 5 May 2021 22: 22
              +1
              Quote: Professor
              I studied Ship Theory with Professor Remez, did you?

              We had the subject "Ship Management". The subject was given by prof. A. Demin. We studied from the textbook under his authorship.
              And the name of prof. Remeza is forever inscribed in the theory of ship control. It was he who created the Remez diagram, which gave the answer in a first approximation - how the ship will behave in waves, depending on the speed of the vessel, the direction of the waves, and the magnitude of the waves.
              hi
              1. Professor
                Professor 6 May 2021 06: 19
                -3
                Quote: stalkerwalker
                Quote: Professor
                I studied Ship Theory with Professor Remez, did you?

                We had the subject "Ship Management". The subject was given by prof. A. Demin. We studied from the textbook under his authorship.
                And the name of prof. Remeza is forever inscribed in the theory of ship control. It was he who created the Remez diagram, which gave the answer in a first approximation - how the ship will behave in waves, depending on the speed of the vessel, the direction of the waves, and the magnitude of the waves.
                hi

                Julius Vulfovich Remez (WWII veteran) ended his life in Israel. Blessed memory to him. His son taught at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem.

                PS
                Off-topic, but he told us how, during the fight against Cosmopolitanism, the use of foreign names was banned and the "Reynolds number" and "Planck constant" were renamed into wild names ... fool
                1. stalkerwalker
                  stalkerwalker 6 May 2021 15: 00
                  0
                  Quote: Professor
                  Julius Vulfovich Remez (WWII veteran) ended his life in Israel. Blessed memory of him. His son taught at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem

                  So I didn't even know ...
                  Thank you, Oleg!
                  hi
          2. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 5 May 2021 21: 55
            +2
            "The sea will show" ///
            ---
            The corvette class is not intended for cruises around the world or Atlantic winter storms.
            For this, destroyers are being built.
            These corvettes are for work in the Mediterranean, Red Seas, in the western part of the Indian Ocean.
            1. stalkerwalker
              stalkerwalker 5 May 2021 22: 37
              +2
              Quote: voyaka uh
              The corvette class is not intended for cruises around the world or Atlantic winter storms.
              For this, destroyers are being built.
              These corvettes - for work in the Mediterranean, Red Seas, in the western Indian Ocean

              Lyosha, I agree.
              A potential theater of operations for the Israeli Navy is the Levantia (Eastern Mediterranean) and the Red Sea, where severe storms are rare. But the Arabian Sea can bring surprises. But I am sure that Israeli sailors do not eat their bread for nothing.
              Nevertheless, for the use of on-board weapons, the ship needs to move at a certain point in time without oscillating the vertical axis of the ship during the preparation of this weapon in readiness, and the use itself.
              I am sure that the type of ship under discussion will have no problems with this. After all, not Saar alone ... There is aviation, after all. And the opposing side will find itself in similar weather conditions. In my memory, I cannot recall a single strong excitement on the way to Haifa, Suez or Beirut. And the swell that can roll from Cyprus (the place of occurrence of the typical Balkan minimum) during storms will not be able to greatly affect the rolling period of the ship, which is prepared for firing. And I do not know any restrictions on the use of onboard weapons due to the weather conditions of this type of ship.
              hi
              1. Oleg Olkha
                Oleg Olkha 5 May 2021 23: 36
                +2
                The fact that the head corvette Magеn, leaving Kiel, gets into a storm after Brest, in the Bay of Biscay, I saw the next day on the weather forecast map. And so it happened, but did a good job, not snuggling to the shore, by the shortest route to the Spanish A Coruña. For the corvette and the crew, it is quite a test ...
                1. stalkerwalker
                  stalkerwalker 6 May 2021 02: 03
                  +3
                  The prevailing direction of wind waves in the Bay of Biscay is the North-West. In this case, after passing Ouessant, you should go on a course leading to Pasajes, or even to Bordeaux, if the wave comes from the West-North-West. Only on such courses it is possible to bring the wave from NW (WNW) to the stern from the starboard side and avoid strong rolling.
                  1. Oleg Olkha
                    Oleg Olkha 6 May 2021 11: 14
                    +2
                    Very informative, thank you! I don’t know if the completely new crew, who sailed this route for the first time, had the experience of such navigation (they studied, of course, the theory ...) but from the media reports they kept up the shortest schedule. From an interview with four girls, members of the crew, (one, the chief electronics officer), many got sick in the storm, swayed, but the backbone of the crew was familiar.
      2. ironic
        ironic 5 May 2021 15: 27
        -5
        They don't know about it as usual. Therefore, it will stick out. Gas drilling rigs must be guarded even in a storm.
    2. ironic
      ironic 5 May 2021 15: 37
      -4
      The task was this, a small floating watchtower.



      And this is his main caliber.
  5. YOU
    YOU 5 May 2021 13: 48
    +10
    In fact, for 1900 tons, quite serious weapons, air defense more than. There is an anti-aircraft missile and a strike in 16 missiles. True, there is not a lot of artillery. This is to the question about 20380
    1. Ratmir_Ryazan
      Ratmir_Ryazan 5 May 2021 13: 56
      +18
      Why do they need artillery ?!

      The Jews made the ship as protected as possible from aircraft and enemy cruise missiles + anti-ship missiles and torpedoes. Such a ship will protect itself and become a point of support / barriers for the enemy at sea / from the sea.

      And if something needs to be smashed to pieces on the shore, they will not fire from a cannon for hours, spending thousands of shells, but use aircraft and precision weapons.
      1. Cowbra
        Cowbra 5 May 2021 14: 16
        -19%
        Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
        Jews made a ship

        Uh-huh, WE plowed - me and the tractor. JEWS did, yeah
        1. And Us Rat
          And Us Rat 5 May 2021 15: 34
          0
          Quote: Cowbra
          JEWS did, yeah

          Exactly. German there - the shell, the hull and engines, well, and on the domestic side, bunks, galley, latrines.
          1. Cowbra
            Cowbra 5 May 2021 15: 45
            -7
            Have I heard this somewhere? A-ah-ah! Island type boats! The Ukrainians made them, the American one there -
            Quote: And Us Rat
            shells, hull and engines, and for the household part, bunks, galley, latrines.

            For example, there are no weapons with navigation, which means they are Ukrainian.
            And in Germany they were built for fun. I say - "me and the tractor"
            The Sa'ar-6 Magen missile corvette (translated as "Shield") has a displacement of 2000 tons and is developed on the basis of the Sa'ar-5 ships built in the United States, Defense News reports.
            Source: http://nevskii-bastion.ru/saar-6-meko-corvettes/ VTS "NEVSKY BASTION" AVKarpenko

            Under the first contract, Astronautics will develop a system that will collect and process navigation data on board ships. This system will use a "unique data synthesis program" to provide an optimal picture of the navigation environment. Rafael Systems was awarded a contract for the development of internal and external communication systems. Several more tenders have been announced recently. Their results will be known by the end of 2017. In the near future, a number of tenders will be announced for self-defense systems, command and control, communications and navigation, electronic warfare, software.
            Source: http://nevskii-bastion.ru/saar-6-meko-corvettes/ VTS "NEVSKY BASTION" AVKarpenko

            Peacocks, you say? (C)
            1. ironic
              ironic 5 May 2021 15: 55
              -2
              Yeah, ukrabathurt but firm, so familiar, no other habits have been developed.

              Bastion reports, but for some reason the ships turned out to be at the A100 base, probably it was Defense News that got pinned over Karpenko. lol
            2. And Us Rat
              And Us Rat 5 May 2021 16: 39
              +8
              Quote: Cowbra
              Have I heard this somewhere? A-ah-ah! Island type boats!

              I compared a horse to a sausage. It was necessary to immediately compare not with Ukraine, but with some kind of Bananostane. Why is it so modest? Water so water! fellow
              Educational program on Saar systems 6:
              Radar EL / M-2248 MF-STAR - Made in Israel.
              SAM "Barak-8" and "Marine Iron Dome" and C-Dome - Production Israel.
              Typhoon Weapon Stations - Made in Israel.
              RCC "Gabriel-5" - Made in Israel.
              25 units of Spike-ER missiles - Made in Israel.
              Electronic warfare systems, countermeasures and cyber defense - Produce .... (drum roll) right, also Israel. fellow
              Quote: Cowbra
              Peacocks, you say? (C)
          2. Strannik96
            Strannik96 5 May 2021 16: 35
            +1
            The most important thing for a ship is engines for propulsion and generators, especially German MTU
            1. Oleg Olkha
              Oleg Olkha 6 May 2021 00: 34
              +1
              R + W those. radars, electronics and weapons have long been 60/70% of the total. cost, and a platform with motors, mechanics and electrics 30/40%. Well, how can it be without diz. motors, generators, electric motors and the like: Supplier Rolls-Royce power systems (MTU America) and General Electric. According to unconfirmed German sources from Kiel and Munich, the last in the series, INS ניצחון (nitsachon - victory) is equipped, in addition to diesels, with a GE gas turbine and is very high-speed, on occasion. We will soon find out if this is so, with a test drive ...
        2. ironic
          ironic 5 May 2021 15: 39
          -4
          Well, yes, the tractor is German, and we plowed everything else.
      2. ironic
        ironic 5 May 2021 15: 24
        -6
        76mm Oto Melara is enough
        1. Shimshon
          Shimshon 5 May 2021 21: 15
          -3
          There will be no artillery campaign. They will either supply a container with Hero or Harpy NG. Or maybe a 100 kw laser. (My wishlist)
          1. ironic
            ironic 5 May 2021 22: 31
            -3
            Well, I can only judge by open sources listing the weapons of the corvette and by the prepared place in the photo.
    2. ironic
      ironic 5 May 2021 15: 26
      -5
      They just forgot to mention it in the article.
  6. And Us Rat
    And Us Rat 5 May 2021 13: 49
    +4
    A short overview of this series, though in English.
    1. And Us Rat
      And Us Rat 5 May 2021 14: 52
      +2
      Here's another video to catch up, already purely on the topic of the article.
      1. OgnennyiKotik
        OgnennyiKotik 5 May 2021 16: 57
        0
        Cool project, shoved not crammed and even more. As I understand, they saved on the duration of autonomous navigation, but your theater of operations is not important.
        1. ironic
          ironic 5 May 2021 18: 10
          -2
          Saar 6 - 4,000 nmi (7,400 km; 4,600 mi) (speed not specified)

          20380 - 3,800 nmi (7,000 km; 4,400 mi) at 14 kn (26 km / h; 16 mph)
          1. OgnennyiKotik
            OgnennyiKotik 5 May 2021 18: 34
            -1
            This is different.
            The number of the crew is less, the article says up to 70 (in Israel, what do they write?), 22380 100 10 people. And if the autonomy is up to XNUMX days, it will give serious savings in the place.
            + GP exhaust from the bottom, instead of the upper pipe, another mast of electronic equipment and PU
            1. ironic
              ironic 5 May 2021 22: 38
              -2
              75 sailors and 65 pilots and aircraft maintenance.
  7. Aaron Zawi
    Aaron Zawi 5 May 2021 14: 14
    +6
    Quote: YOU
    In fact, for 1900 tons, quite serious weapons, air defense more than. There is an anti-aircraft missile and a strike in 16 missiles. True, there is not a lot of artillery. This is to the question about 20380
    The rocket for the Barak-8 ER at a range of 150 km has passed the last tests. Which cannot but rejoice.
    1. Alex777
      Alex777 5 May 2021 15: 14
      0
      Vague doubts plagued for a long time ...
      Is your Barack very similar to our Redoubt? wink
      1. ironic
        ironic 5 May 2021 15: 23
        -2
        Maybe the other way around? The barrack will be in the ranks early. wink
      2. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi 5 May 2021 16: 57
        0
        Quote: Alex777
        Vague doubts plagued for a long time ...
        Is your Barack very similar to our Redoubt? wink

        Physics? Not? Identical tasks, similar solution.
        1. Alex777
          Alex777 5 May 2021 17: 00
          +2
          Physics? Not

          Not all colleagues understand jokes. smile
          Identical tasks, similar solution.

          But I drew attention to a certain similarity of tasks, stages and development time. hi
          1. ironic
            ironic 5 May 2021 18: 06
            +3
            It was a joke when, due to the long unavailability of the Redoubt and especially its Polyment, Barak-8 had to be delivered to the Russian cruiser, pardon me, Indian aircraft carrier. wink
            1. Alex777
              Alex777 5 May 2021 19: 18
              0
              When did you finish testing the Barak-8 ER?
              1. ironic
                ironic 5 May 2021 22: 38
                -3
                So ER this is Barak-8-mark 2. wink
  8. ironic
    ironic 5 May 2021 15: 22
    -4
    They forgot to mention the 76mm Oto Melara installation ...
  9. NF68
    NF68 5 May 2021 16: 08
    +1
    Approximately 50% of the exports of German gunsmiths in recent years have been submarines and ships.
  10. xorek
    xorek 5 May 2021 16: 47
    -8
    Interestingly and Israel, Germany paid for these corvettes or is it on account of the eternal indemnity goes?
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 5 May 2021 16: 58
      +6
      Quote: xorek
      Interestingly and Israel, Germany paid for these corvettes or is it on account of the eternal indemnity goes?

      I paid, but bargained for a discount. For he could order a platform in the UK.
  11. Oleg Olkha
    Oleg Olkha 5 May 2021 19: 38
    +1
    Any shipbuilder understands that with vertical dimensions of 92x13.52m. and max. draft 4/4 + meters, a displacement of 1900 tons can only be "standard". Full displacement of 2200 tons, minimum! If, after Israel, the Finns and Singaporeans, Her Majesty's fleet is armed with Sea Serpent (Gabriel-5) based on the results of the announced tender, it will be interesting ... Here is the message and graphics https://www.iai.co.il/p/sea-serpent
  12. amr
    amr 5 May 2021 19: 43
    +5
    Quote: Professor
    Do you think the Germans have forgotten how to calculate the metacentric height?

    Don't mind it with envy!
    And the ship is just handsome, especially in your scale and tasks!
    1. Yuri V.A
      Yuri V.A 6 May 2021 03: 39
      +1
      And don't say - sweetheart, not a ship, especially considering the cost of this baby.
      1. Oleg Olkha
        Oleg Olkha 6 May 2021 12: 33
        +1
        107.5 million euros "naked" platform, according to a contract with TKMS for 430 million euros, plus additional equipment and weapons in Israel at least one and a half times more expensive (40% to 60%) 155/160 million euros at international market prices. But inside Israel, they work for shekels, not for currency, and the created additional value remains in the country, this is the main thing. The ship is very complicated and "for sale" very expensive.
        1. Yuri V.A
          Yuri V.A 6 May 2021 13: 18
          +1
          Somehow the total cost of the program came across - almost $ 3 billion for four ships.
          1. Oleg Olkha
            Oleg Olkha 6 May 2021 13: 59
            +2
            A new floating dock for servicing, an extension of open berths, four covered protected boathouses for SA`AR-6 (there is a photo of a new naval base, taken from the Bahai Gardens in Haifa), three production buildings, including. one new one, where everything designed for ships was reproduced on land, integrated and worked out before installation, training in Germany and Israel, a lot of specialists and officers with families in Kiel, accommodation, children in kindergartens and schools, etc. etc. money money money...
  13. Ruslan Sulima
    Ruslan Sulima 5 May 2021 22: 37
    0
    Administration of VO, I ask you to consider every statement about torchlight processions in Kiev, Odessa, Kharkov as propaganda of fascism!
    Yes, as much as possible .....
    1. Petr Vladimirovich
      Petr Vladimirovich 6 May 2021 20: 14
      0
      Ukro-Nazis are tolerated here ...
  14. Stepan S
    Stepan S 6 May 2021 20: 25
    0
    the corvette's armament includes a 32-charge medium and long-range air defense system Barak 8 and two 40-charge launchers of the C-Dome tactical missile defense system In addition, the ships will be armed with 16 anti-ship missile launchers, 324-mm torpedo tubes for anti-submarine torpedoes Raytheon Mk 54 and a Sikorsky SH-60 Seahawk helicopter. Artillery armament will be limited to two 25-mm Rafael remotely controlled artillery mounts

    How did they put so much weapons on a ship with a displacement of 1900 tons?