Another experienced Browning

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Receiver with an open bolt of the experimental rifle of John Browning 1895

“Even if you bring nine pregnant women together, the baby will still not be born in a month. The idea must mature! "
("Dead Season")

Weapon and firms. В stories the tough competition into which, against their will, the largest American arms manufacturers Colt and Winchester were drawn, was, surprisingly, a considerable fault of the talented designers of that time. Ideas were flying in the air. They picked them up on the fly and immediately embodied them in patents and in metal. At the same time, each tried to bypass the patents of the other, and firms - to buy cheaper and sell more expensive.

In these conditions, branded marketing, that is, market research, was of particular importance. But at that time, scientific methods of studying consumer sympathies were still in their infancy, and a lot depended on the personal qualities of a particular leader. He managed to foresee what the market would need in a year, managed during this time the designer to create the desired sample - and the company broke the bank. The same Browning managed to present a new rifle after two weeks of work. But he was not alone. And besides, he could not work for two companies at the same time. As a result, a number of his developments remained at the level of experimental images, although in themselves they were very good. And today we will tell you about one such rifle of his ...



By 1895, the Winchester company began to realize the need for a significant renewal of the range and the creation of new samples. In 1882, William Mason began work on one of them (US Patent No. 278987) to counter the Colt rifle and push it out of the market. Then in response, in 1890, Winchester introduced the John Browning .22 caliber pump-action rifle. And the model of 1890 - the famous "gallery gun", became extremely popular as a result.

And it should be noted that Browning will like the pump-action recharge mechanism. Well, in total, between 1887 and 1895, Browning patented four rifles at once with bolts of various designs, which also differed in the reloading system. Three years later, Winchester introduced the M1893 pump-action shotgun, which eventually evolved into the famous Model 1897, with over a million pieces produced. But he worked at the same time on other designs.


Fore-end pad, connected by a rod with a bolt

So, in April 1895, Browning filed a patent for a rifle caliber rifle (.30). And in September 1895 he received a US patent No. 545672 for it. And this was also a "pump", but only a completely unusual pump. Winchester christened her the musket. Well, this name was considered the best there.

And then, without delay, in the same September 1895, Winchester bought a patent for this rifle from John Browning. But, like many of his other designs, she did not release it. That is, it was bought with one single purpose: to prevent all other firms from using the principle of operation laid down in it. Moreover, apparently, having a weakness for rifles with a lever mechanism, or perhaps, considering them a brand of the company, released another rifle. Also 1895: our famous "Russian Winchester". But patented a little later - in November 1895 (US patent No. 549345).

Meanwhile, if we compare both models, then, perhaps, the "September patent" will be more perfect than the "November" one, and certainly faster - no doubt about it.


View of the receiver of the Browning rifle on the left

In a pump-action rifle from September 1895, the bolt was locked by means of a skewed bolt. But outwardly, the prototype, made in Browning's tool shop, was even somewhat similar to the M1895 Winchester. In any case, they have very similar receivers with a box magazine integrated into them. And the whole difference lies in the fact that the shutter in it was twitched not by a lever, but with the help of a clutch sliding around the forend, connected to the shutter by a rather long rod. It was unusual, but it was convenient.

The bolt rod connects the bolt inside the bolt carrier closed from above on the right side of the rifle. The bolt handle itself is made of a U-shaped stamped metal sheet that wraps around the rifle's forend. Coarse shading has been applied to improve grip. The stem only very slightly extends beyond the dimensions of the receiver. So such a device does not deliver any inconvenience to the user of the rifle.


And this is how it looked on the diagram from the patent. Browning Patent, September 1895 (US Patent Office)

Interestingly, Browning designed this prototype in such a way that the rifle magazine could be loaded from below, rather than through the top of the receiver. He added a hinged magazine lid with "ears" for the fingers for easy opening, and a spring-loaded pusher that, when the lid was open, allowed cartridges to be inserted into the magazine and then closed.


Sectional receiver. The cartridge feeder lever and their guides are clearly visible

When we open the store and flip the lid down, we see how the holder goes down to allow charging. Thus, the rifle can be loaded with the bolt closed. Conveniently, the receiver is very well sheltered from debris and dirt. Another thing is that it would not be very convenient to load a combat rifle in this way. Although the French were loading their Lebel rifle, inserting cartridges into it one at a time? And they charged her for a long time.

In the patent description, Browning explained that his goal was to improve the breech box magazine firearms by developing:

“… A simple, compact, robust, highly efficient and safe shotgun, made up of relatively few parts and designed with particular emphasis on the ability to load the box magazine with cartridges from the bottom of the frame by hand, while the bolt is in the closed position, so that the shooter can be loaded without activating the entire mechanism of the rifle or without removing the cartridge from the barrel of the rifle, if any. "


Details of the rifle magazine for the September 1895 patent

In the original drawings of the patent, we can see a flat spring acting on a holder running under the barrel in front of the magazine. Inside the magazine is a pair of so-called "spring fingers" that act on the cartridges inside the magazine and hold them in the correct position, as shown in Figure 7 of the patent. In Figure 8, we can see what Browning calls a "box guide" that guides the cartridges "preventing them from shifting when feeding upward."

The rifle bolt is fixed in a recess on the left side of the receiver, tilts at an angle, while the rear part of the bolt slides to the left. When the pump handle is retracted, the bolt is unlocked, the empty cartridge case is removed and ejected, and when the bolt returns forward, a new cartridge is fed from the magazine, the bolt is locked again, and the rifle is ready to fire. The hammer of the rifle is cocked by moving the bolt back.


View of a rifle with an open magazine

Externally, the receiver is similar to the receiver of the production model 1895, but internally they are very different. The breech is certainly very well covered, unlike the 1895, but the skew-locking mechanism is considered less reliable. In addition, the bolt action rifle lacks a safety mechanism that prevents accidental opening of the bolt.


This diagram clearly shows how, by means of the skew of the bolt, the bore is locked and the sleeve is extracted.

Technically, the prototype of this rifle was definitely simpler and had fewer working parts than the linkage of the Model 1895.

Winchester bought this design for .30 caliber rifle cartridges, but never made it. But there is a prototype that was made to confirm the functionality of this design. It was part of the Winchester collection and can now be seen at the Cody Firearms Museum.

PS


The author and administration of the site would like to thank Matthew Moss, head of the site "The Armourer's Bench", for permission to use his materials and photographs.
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  1. +12
    7 2021 June
    ! yazurd, ortu eorboD
    Everything is as usual with us.

    Good morning friends!
    Thanks to Vyacheslav for a new interesting article. I read and am convinced once again how talented and efficient John Moses Browning was. Truly a Great Inventor with a Capital Letter.!
    1. +10
      7 2021 June
      Winchester M1895, suddenly someone forgot what it looks like (which I doubt very much) smile

      A pack of training cartridges 7,62x54R for the "Russian Winchester" model.
    2. +13
      7 2021 June
      Quote: Sea Cat
      Great inventor with a capital letter

      That's right, you know who he immediately reminded me of with this
      “… A simple, compact, robust, high performance and safe shotgun
      That's it!
      "Making something simple is sometimes many times more difficult than making it difficult."
      Mikhail Timofeevich Kalashnikov!
      1. +14
        7 2021 June
        That's right, you know who he immediately reminded me of with this
        “… A simple, compact, robust, high performance and safe shotgun
        That's it!

        With regard to weapons - I agree.
        But the figures are still of different scales. Browning is a talented inventor, a pioneer, one might say, and Kalashnikov is a self-taught nugget and in his design he successfully compiled technical solutions embodied in metal even before he stood at the drawing board.
        (by no means I mean Stg).
        1. +10
          7 2021 June
          Yes, Constantine. Children also build pyramids from cubes in different ways. My granddaughter never managed to build a pyramid higher than mine, it always fell apart.
      2. +12
        7 2021 June
        I read the 3rd "Pravda" in the archive for 1949. There are portraits of the Stalin Prize laureates. And suddenly I see among the many faces - senior sergeant (!) M.T. Kalashnikov - in the photo, young and very handsome. For which the prize is not said ...
        1. +12
          7 2021 June
          For which the prize is not said ...

          He was a classified comrade. bully By the way, the first film where AK was shown for the first time, in my opinion, was "Maxim Perepelitsa" 1955. with young Leonid Bykov.

          A famous quote from the film at one time: "He quit smoking and died ... No, it seems he first died, and then quit smoking." (C)
          1. +10
            7 2021 June
            There was a full platoon set. AK, SKS, RPD. And also served as T-34-85, IS-2.
            But Ivan Brovkin and the crew of the M-30 howitzer, which he was part of, was armed with a carbine model 1944.
            1. +11
              7 2021 June
              There was a full platoon set.

              Let me add, Alexey - and the Mi-4 helicopter is shown for the first time. Yes
            2. +7
              7 2021 June
              I saw the T-34/85 back in the late sixties. A company of these vehicles was brought in for the UR and they were waiting for their mechanics in our tank fleet. Some even had captured German barrels with the inscription Wehrmacht 42.
              1. +11
                7 2021 June
                And I found T = 34-85 in 1984. They were used in the filming of films about the Patriotic War, which were regularly filmed by the Odessa Film Studio, and we provided extras. There was no need to make up the mechvod. He was already head over heels in fuel oil.
                1. +7
                  7 2021 June
                  So we really drove them to the war, I meant that. And in Mosfilm Park they are still on the move.
                  1. +6
                    7 2021 June
                    So we really drove them to the war, I meant that.

                    EMNIP, you were then buried in Ussuri and IS-2 as firing points.
                    1. +7
                      7 2021 June
                      The IS-3s were also driven in echelons, stood on the platform in Birobidzhan, when the long train with the IS-3 was driven through the city, the caterpillars were all red from rust, and the armor was all in a sort of funny light green paint and ... not a single sentry on the platforms.
                      1. +4
                        7 2021 June
                        The IS-3s were also driven in echelons.

                        Have you started replacing the BTR-40 with more modern vehicles then? I read that they were officially written off in 1993.
                      2. +5
                        7 2021 June
                        No, they didn’t replace the BTR-40, we had communication machines and at the same time vehicles of the battalion headquarters. The regiment commander drove the BTR-50.
                      3. +2
                        8 2021 June
                        The regiment commander drove the BTR-50.

                        By the way, I lied on the blue eye. Described. In "Maxim Perepelitsa" for the first time not the Mi-4 is shown, but the Mi-1.
                    2. +2
                      7 2021 June
                      As in Sakhalin, until now
            3. +5
              7 2021 June
              There were competent military consultants there. Now there are no consultants in the films and hello blooper. Although in the films of that time there were also bloopers and big
          2. +7
            7 2021 June
            As indicated in one of the films about the post-military small arms of the Soviet Army, SKS carbines were issued to more accurate shooters (the first AK models did not completely satisfy the military in terms of accuracy). And it turns out that Private Taskirov (armed with SKS) was more accurate than Maxim Perepelitsa. soldier
            1. +4
              7 2021 June
              ... Private Taskirov (armed with SKS) was more accurate than Maxim Perepelitsa. soldier

              No, he just didn't have enough Kalash, Maxim took the last one out from under his nose during the distribution.laughing
              1. +5
                7 2021 June
                "Ukrainian" after all ... Salo does not need to be examined. Lard must be eaten! And bananas are dumb! good
              2. +4
                7 2021 June
                And the main thing for the lads is not to forget about the harmelon ... crying
                1. +5
                  7 2021 June
                  Aleksey, not everyone knows the meaning of the harmelon. Read "Perepelitsa".
                  True, this is already in the past.
                  1. +3
                    7 2021 June
                    The main thing is to know that seeds are very useful for the male sex !!! feel
                    Only they are not very easy to gnaw at the infection, but the cleaned ones stand am !
                    And most importantly - Peaceful Sky over the Head !!! hi
              3. +2
                7 2021 June
                He is such that he will "take away" two.
                In our village there was a man who "took a sedative" and began to quote from the film. Everyone called him "Perepelitsa". When I was young, I read a book, and I watched the film later.
                PS. I read Stadnyuk and he claims that "Brovkin" was ripped off from his Maxim. His story: "Perepelitsa" was often broadcast on the radio and Mdivani used the plot.
                1. +2
                  8 2021 June
                  “Brovkin” is still secondary, and not as interesting and good as “Maxim”, albeit a color one. smile

                  Ivan Stadnyuk, the author of the script for the film "Maxim Perepelitsa", openly accused the creators of "Ivan Brovkin" of plagiarism [1]:
                  ... two twin films were born: black and white Maxim and color Ivan. With almost the same plot, the same collisions, the arrangement of the characters. Everyone knew that the truth was on my side, that "Maxim Perepelitsa" was staged according to my book of the same name, which was published four years ago ... I could not remain silent, and I wrote a letter to Pravda. Mdivani, as I recall, ran into trouble along the party line and in the section of screenwriters. After some time, he called me at home and asked for forgiveness ...

                  - Ivan Stadnyuk
                  1. +1
                    8 2021 June
                    I agree: "Brovkin" is weaker, and "Brovkin on virgin soil" is a complete Golimut.
                    If I am not mistaken, "Brovkin" came out earlier. In my opinion: "Mosfilm"?
                    1. 0
                      8 2021 June
                      They both came out in 1955, but I don’t know who was earlier. "Brovkin" was originally colored, and "Maxim" was painted later.
                      1. +1
                        8 2021 June
                        I have not seen a painted "Maxim". The "painted" Stirlitz somehow didn't "go" to me, but my nephew liked it. A front-line soldier lived in our street, the driver of T-34 85. Baldel from the painted "Stirlitz" and wanted to live when the "tankers" were painted. He respected: "on horseback as in war", and he called "tankers" a fairy tale, but willingly watched some episodes. What exactly? His granddaughter bought a Vidic and he watched
                      2. +1
                        8 2021 June
                        "War as in War" is one of the best films about this war, I can only compare with it "The Chronicle of a Dive Bomber".
                        And what kind of "Tankists", three Poles, a Georgian and a dog?
                      3. +1
                        9 2021 June
                        They are the most. High school students said: "4 dogs and a Pole"
    3. Good morning. How simple and how difficult at the same time. Water, and there are not many details, but it was necessary to think better of how to arrange them!
      Thank you, Vyacheslav Olegovich. Morning is set!
      1. +7
        7 2021 June
        Someone was promised an article about Nagant. I have already forgotten who. But she is ready ... and not even one. TWO!
        1. +12
          7 2021 June
          Their two brothers were - each on the article. smile
        2. We are waiting, we are waiting ...)))
        3. +1
          7 2021 June
          Q. Oh, they've been waiting for Nagant since winter, but I'm not offended: I've read so many interesting things.
          And after Nagan, what are your plans? Something delicious hotts
          1. +4
            7 2021 June
            Svyatoslav! The theme of armor will be continued with all the details, including the technology of forging with drawings. The theme of "weapons and firms", "Russians and Egypt" will be continued, the theme of the Battle of Austerlitz will be completed - it is not completed. There will be 2 more articles. A big topic will be started about one war that everyone is talking about, but for sure few people know what. There will be 2 articles about homemade products, there will be material on clothes Wed. centuries - this is Astra for joy. The theme of "revolver", by the way, will also be continued: there will be materials about his peers. Yes, there will be interesting material with photographs of Zhanna and Andrei who traveled to Mexico ... There will be an "anti-Soviet" article about the Pravda newspaper from 1949-50. So there will be materials for every taste ...
            1. +3
              7 2021 June
              Greetings, Vyacheslav Olegovich!
              As an illustration to an article about * Truth * would not it fit?
              wink hi
              1. +2
                7 2021 June
                Thank you! But there is a different leitmotif!
            2. 0
              8 2021 June
              For this answer 5
        4. +1
          7 2021 June
          Vyacheslav Olegovich, what are your plans, perhaps you need epigraphs? This will not make us more difficult.
          Р
          S
          For women, will there be anything interesting?
          1. +1
            7 2021 June
            The epigraph also depends on the mood ...
    4. +4
      7 2021 June
      Kostya, hello. With the language removed: Browning was really an inventor with a capital letter.
      Such as it can be counted on the fingers and, probably, 1 hand will be enough
      1. +5
        7 2021 June
        Hello, Slava. hi
        I removed from the language:

        Sorry, but here "who got up first - that and the slippers", literally, and I have not gone to bed yet. smile
        That, exactly, such as John Browning is really one.
        1. +6
          7 2021 June
          "Do not be afraid, friends, of a man with a gun -
          He himself is so terribly afraid of you!
          He bought a gun so that night and day
          To defend against you with that gun "(c)
          1. +6
            7 2021 June
            "You should always be with you
            Known to all Browning John. " smile

            1. +9
              7 2021 June
              A man gets on a tram and puts a Browning on his knees, pointing towards his neighbor.
              - Be careful, suddenly it will shoot! - the neighbor got excited.
              -- So what? I will charge again.
              1. +7
                7 2021 June
                Luda love When a young man in quarantine in my presence called the muzzle of a machine gun a muzzle, I, excuse me, in the popular expressions of the SA sergeant, simply and intelligibly explained to him where he was blowing. A remark solely due to the fact that we are here on the sly discussing weapons. smile drinks
                1. +5
                  7 2021 June
                  In popular terms, how is it? The muzzle of a machine gun into the muzzle of the nose? wassat )))
                  Kostya !!! Jokes - for the people! So as not to think: "The muzzle? I don't see something, I ought to do it," and he will make a sawn-off shot!
                  1. +5
                    7 2021 June
                    The muzzle of a machine gun into the muzzle of the nose? wassat)))

                    No comments, education does not allow. request

                    The sawn-off shotgun is a fist weapon, the Italian mafiosi call it "lupara".

                    1. +1
                      7 2021 June
                      In fact, Kostya, you are right!
                      After all, what is a muzzle? It is a cylinder with two bases. One of them is called "muzzle". If the pistol is placed with its muzzle towards a neighbor, it is dangerous for the neighbor. If on another basis, it is dangerous for the owner)))
                      1. +6
                        7 2021 June

                        Everyone understands in their own way. wink
                    2. +2
                      7 2021 June
                      "the sawed-off weapon is a weapon of the fist" I remembered, once I watched the movie: "How the steel was tempered" and there is an episode: the fists were going to shoot at Pavel Korchagin and the older brother taught the younger one "at me, at the father" and they had a sawn-off shot
                    3. 0
                      13 2021 June
                      the name itself appeared before the mafia. It came from a shepherd's trimmed fiber (lupus is a wolf). and so as not to carry a heavy and long flintlock or piston.
                  2. +4
                    8 2021 June
                    The sawn-off shotgun is a fist weapon, the Italian mafiosi call it "lupara".

                    The Jews were the first in the world to make sawn-off shotguns (c) Yes
                    but they somehow call it differently
                    1. +2
                      8 2021 June
                      Dim, what did you mean? If circumcision, then surely they are. laughing
                      1. +2
                        8 2021 June
                        Not in the know about circumcision request
                        I'm talking about something else. In 605 BC. King of Babylon Nebuchadnezzar II defeated the Egyptian army at Karkemish on the Euphrates. As a result of this victory, the country of Judea became part of the Babylonian sphere of influence. The son of Josiah, King Joachim was forced to accept the power of Babylon, but three years later he rebelled against his new masters. Nebuchadnezzar captured Jerusalem, expelled Joachim, and the Jews, on pain of death, were forbidden to have weapons. Preparing for a new uprising in 588 BC, in order not to arouse the suspicions of the Babylonians, they began to make sawn-off cuts that did not fall under the ban
                      2. +1
                        8 2021 June
                        That is, what did they cut, swords, knives, spears, arrows? And how to fight with these stubs?
                        And why was it necessary at all, did they walk with weapons in the open. All this is somehow strange.
                      3. +3
                        8 2021 June
                        Why is it so strange? In the Middle Ages, commoners were also forbidden to carry swords, so rich townspeople began to order daggers in the form of a sword for their status, the so-called. long quilons and long baselards, which, although they belonged to daggers, resembled a reduced copy of a sword.
                        a photo Long dagger baselard of a particularly authoritative citizen from the Wallace collection.

                        The article was not long ago about this
                      4. +3
                        8 2021 June
                        There was an article, but I don't remember something about Judea. Yes, and I'm not a specialist in cold weather, Dima. smile
                      5. +2
                        8 2021 June
                        The sawn-off shotgun is a fist weapon, the Italian mafiosi call it "lupara".

                        Lupara and I walk in pairs (s) smile
                      6. +2
                        8 2021 June
                        Life is like that, otherwise it is impossible. laughing
                      7. +1
                        9 2021 June
                        Wawlera64: It is almost impossible to get a smooth muzzle with a file or a hacksaw. But how, at that time, the vintari in the villages were cut without grinders, hacksaws and lathes?

                        The peasants achieved a perpendicular cut of the trunk very simply. The tool for trimming the barrel of a rifle evenly was made from a couple of pieces of wood with holes, one stump of a file (any suitable cutter) and a bow drive (a stick with a rope). We pull-pull, towards ourselves - away from ourselves, the cutting edge is whack-whack. Exactly in a circle, which is typical. Clean, neat, high-quality work. The barrel is the axis around which the "tool" revolves. Bearing wear during lubrication (wood on wood) is negligible. And the chamfer inside the barrel is also perfectly removable. Just reinstalling the "cutter" ...
                        The tree does not scratch the trunk. A circular cut was made, then - you immerse the barrel up to the cut into a barrel and shoot. You chamfer inside the barrel and that's it - the barrel is cut
                        Vidio is on the internet, look
                      8. +3
                        9 2021 June
                        modeled on the Sicilian double-barreled lupar

                        Eh, no, dear. stop peasant sawn-off shotguns from the civil war and collectivization are practically not found. Smooth trims began to spread already in the post-war period. Until the 60s-70s, roughly speaking, there were very few of them. During the Civil War, a double-barreled gun was a rare value, but three rubles brought from the front were enough above the roof. Yes
                        PS I don’t know how it is now, but in the late 80s - early 90s, almost every truck driver on the roads of our country had a sawed-off shotgun of a hunting rifle.
                        After which the Saiga era actually began
                      9. +3
                        9 2021 June
                        Kostya deliberately rummaged in the internet and found it.
                        Here is the usual Jewish sword Khopish

                        after the so-called of the first uprising of 605 BC, they almost disappear, but Sika daggers converted from them are widely distributed.

                        Richard: but they somehow called them differently, I forgot how

                        I have forgotten that word! recourse Even the Zealot rebels with these knives were called Sicarii. Am I getting old?
                      10. +1
                        9 2021 June
                        Khopish ... To be honest, it doesn't look very much like a sword, in my usual perception. request
                      11. +1
                        9 2021 June
                        EMNIP, double-edged
            2. +3
              7 2021 June
              There will also be an article about his pistols. And I even held the most interesting one in my hands!
              1. +2
                8 2021 June
                Could it be Browning 1903 with a long barrel. !!! ???
                How lucky! Today they can be counted in private collections on the fingers of one hand.
                1. +4
                  8 2021 June
                  No, Richard, not him. The one who finished off Franz Ferdinand. Not he, of course, the one in the museum, but the same one. Very interesting sensation. But more about that in the article ...
                  1. +2
                    8 2021 June
                    Vyacheslav, have you ever contacted the Ministry of Internal Affairs regarding weapons? Once, quite by accident, I was visiting the criminologists of the St. Petersburg Department of Internal Affairs on Liteiny. For many years they have collected an interesting collection of pistols. Each with its own special history and characteristics. Unique finishes, rare production batches, stories about how weapons fell into the hands of experts. Several sample cabinets, naturally in a tidy working order. And most importantly, people are professionals.
                    1. +1
                      8 2021 June
                      Quote: balabol
                      Have you ever had any contact with the Ministry of Internal Affairs regarding weapons?

                      Unfortunately no. I only got to ... a search at a collector's place. And I had to explain to them what kind of samples, because the collector himself, of course, was insane. Penza is not Peter. We have an excellent department of small arms at the artillery school and a museum of weapons with it, and I was there. But I did, it doesn't mean I come regularly. It's a pity of course...
                      1. +2
                        9 2021 June
                        It was the 2000s, and I'm not at all an expert in firearms. I wanted to hold what I remembered - Colt 1911 and Luger 08. Colt was given to hold chrome, uniquely decorated with mother-of-pearl overlays, came to the collection from one criminal character. Luger was produced before WWI for Serbia. With the inscription Fire in Cyrillic. And also with an interesting criminal fate.
                      2. 0
                        9 2021 June
                        Well, Vladimir, but in the article about NAGAN, look at the photo of the Serbian revolver.
                  2. +2
                    8 2021 June
                    No, Richard, not him. The one who killed Franz Ferdinand. Not he, of course, the one in the museum, but the same one. Very interesting sensation. But more on that in a future article ...

                    I offer you an epigraph for a future article smile
                    Gavrila was principled
                    Gavrila Browning bought (s)
                    1. +1
                      9 2021 June
                      Funny Richard, appreciated!
          2. +1
            7 2021 June
            Lyudmila Yakovlevna, I don't remember where the lines come from
            1. +1
              7 2021 June
              Svyatoslav, if you mean a rhyme, then this is folk art. It was written by Miss Olga R.
              1. +1
                7 2021 June
                My opinion: it turned out well
  2. +5
    7 2021 June
    As a child, I lived in a military town and in our club they often showed films about Indians (Goiko Mitic, etc.), so we played "Indians" in the forest. So I made a winchester for myself with a spring to recharge from below "like in a movie". And there were also a shortage of window latches - these are "bolts" for rifles. Something inspired.
  3. +1
    7 2021 June
    Colleagues, Vyacheslav Olegovich, good afternoon.
    I went to chat and at the same time ask when it will be interesting for us, women?
    1. +3
      7 2021 June
      Aster. You know that I write according to my mood. And depending on the material. So that it goes into your own hands. So it's hard for me to say what will interest you. Play Anton out to write about money ... A very interesting topic.
      1. +4
        7 2021 June
        About money will not be soon. You need to shovel a bunch of material, translate something from the language of a potential enemy ...
        But there is another idea.
        1. +3
          7 2021 June
          Anton, take an example from Vyacheslav Olegovich - he will work at the dacha, write articles, almost a quote, but I don’t remember from where)))
          1. +4
            7 2021 June
            "Will plow the earth, write poetry" (C)
            V. Mayakovsky "Good!"
            1. +1
              7 2021 June
              Thank you for reminding!)))
              And since Vyacheslav Olegovich is a historian, his theme is always a deep retro, and that retro in development can be shown only at a certain time interval, which does not climb into the era that we call modernity. And she, modernity, is as follows:
              The M4 carbine outwardly resembles the M16A2, on the basis of which it was made. Initially, it was planned to use it only for arming the crews of combat vehicles, but the assault rifle turned out to be so successful that the entire US army has now switched over to it.

              Who would give a picture - there are such bells and whistles! And most importantly - the optics are raised so that you don't have to bow your head, pressing it into the weapon, and there is almost no recoil.
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                7 2021 June
                Lyudmila Yakovlevna, at the beginning, in the first coming, someone said to me "militarist", and you are even cooler.
                I know PSM, PM and nothing else well. I did not see the optics "live". More precisely, I saw optical sights in the store, but weapons with optics were not possible
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                7 2021 June
                The M4 carbine outwardly resembles the M16A2, on the basis of which it was made. Initially, it was planned to use it only for arming the crews of combat vehicles, but the assault rifle turned out to be so successful that the entire US army has now switched over to it.

                The entire paragraph is untrue from cover to cover. From the word at all.
                Who would give a picture - there are such bells and whistles!

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                  7 2021 June
                  And this is a complete set.
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            7 2021 June
            Lyudmila Yakovlevna! To work like this, you have to write since 1977 ...
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              7 2021 June
              Dear Vyacheslav Olegovich, do I reproach you? I suppose there is simply an epoch-making framework in which you, as a historian, are assigned to act even in the "Armaments" section.
              If you were offended, then there was no intention to offend you. But, be that as it may, I humbly beg your pardon love ))))
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                7 2021 June
                Quote: depressant
                If you were offended, then there was no intention to offend you.

                What are you, Lyudmila Yakovlevna. I had no thoughts of being offended. I just always strive to be as accurate as possible to be understood. It does not always work out ...
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                  7 2021 June
                  Don't tell me, Vyacheslav Olegovich! I - about the "muzzle", Kostya - about the "muzzle", as a result I blew! wassat ))))
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                    7 2021 June
                    But no. Don't blow it. Konstantin proved to be an excellent connoisseur of weapons. And you? And you picked up * a piece * of information for yourself. So both win! Who * blew * shamefully so this is .... everything! Everything! I will not be off topic and sad! bully
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                      7 2021 June
                      Seryozha, "You stop it for me! In this kind of asept, it means ..." good drinks ))))
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                        7 2021 June
                        How ?! Again ?! What is wrong this time?
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                        7 2021 June
                        The hints are different - it's useless!

                        Give up hope everyone who enters
                        In a swamp of stinking stupidity.
                        They swallow it, drown in it -
                        Oil seems naive.

                        Impromptu, if that.
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                        7 2021 June
                        What hints are there?!?!
                        I meant the quarter-finals, an inglorious end. bully
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              7 2021 June
              Here I am about the same! They took it off the tongue.
              And for the last 2 months, I had four days off ... I’ll only get to the Hermitage on Wednesday, and then in the morning, and then to work.
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                7 2021 June
                And in the Hermitage, too, I suppose, a park.
                Not on escusia smile )))
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                  7 2021 June
                  Not without it. At the exhibition, but also, like work. I try to provide myself with a "pillow" for the moment when I cannot work with my hands.
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                    7 2021 June
                    This is familiar. I figured it out. All 90s without a single day off. Well, partly zero too.
                    As they say, the mind went beyond the mind. It's scary to remember. I can't take it anymore.
                    But, hopefully, the ability to type tex on the keyboard will remain? )))
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                      7 2021 June
                      This is what I strive for.
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                      7 2021 June
                      You need to learn how to type 8 thousand characters in 40 minutes, with a completely thought out text in advance. With ready-made sources from which you write. And a check in the Antipligiat system - for example, "Technovod", should show novelty at least 90%, and better 92%. If it is - everything - you are a master and go ahead!
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                7 2021 June
                4 days off in 2 months is almost a luxury. Not always so lucky.
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                  7 2021 June
                  Labor has become a need for a person and, having entered into trust, is trying to kill him wassat )))
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                    7 2021 June
                    Pauses are sometimes necessary.
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                  7 2021 June
                  It was even tougher when I was young. I remember my middle son from the age of two. He left, he was still asleep, came - already asleep.
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                    7 2021 June
                    Yes, the work is not a wolf, but the properties are the same.
                  2. +2
                    7 2021 June
                    Yes. Each decade has its own drawing.
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          7 2021 June
          My poet, I believe in you and hope.
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            7 2021 June
            Thank you! There are many ideas - little time.
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              7 2021 June
              Can't help you
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        7 2021 June
        Vyacheslav Olegovich, somewhere I heard this definition: "money is evil"
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          7 2021 June
          Hello My Fair Stranger!
          As one old friend of mine used to say: when accepting money and giving it back, you need to say "thank you", because money is evil, but it's better with them!
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            7 2021 June
            It's true. Money is evil, but it's better to have it than not to have it
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          7 2021 June
          In my novel "Three from Ensk. The Iron Horse" battle group this phrase is uttered by a young heroine, and an old, wise general with paralyzed legs answers her ... But I don't remember what ... I remember that he answers well.
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    7 2021 June
    Quote: Astra wild2
    My poet, I believe in you and hope.

    There is nothing but hope left
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      7 2021 June
      “Wait and hope” is the main thing in life, said Edmond Dantes, Count of Monte Cristo. All the wisdom of the world is contained in these words!

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