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Pentagon accused Russia of opaque military exercises near NATO borders

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The Pentagon accused Russia of "opaque" military exercises that it is conducting "near NATO borders." This was stated by the spokesman for the US Department of Defense John Kirby.


Speaking on Monday during a briefing, Kirby explained to reporters how "NATO exercises at Russia's borders" differ from "Russian exercises at NATO's borders." As an example, he cited the large-scale exercises Defender Europe 21.

According to a Pentagon spokesman, the United States and NATO, unlike Russia, openly talk about the goals and objectives of their military exercises. All of them are defensive and aimed at "containment of aggression", of which Kirby did not elaborate. At the same time, Russia is concentrating its troops on the border with Ukraine, and does not disclose the purpose of this concentration, but calls it exercises.

Kirby stressed that while the United States is bluntly telling how many troops it intends to deploy during the exercises and revealing the objectives of these maneuvers, Russia is hiding all the data in order to mislead NATO. He noted that they still do not understand the purpose of the concentration of Russian troops on the Ukrainian border.

Thus, the Pentagon once again accused Russia of "non-transparency" of military exercises, thereby confirming that they do not intend to listen to the Russian Ministry of Defense, which clearly outlined the goals and objectives of the exercises. The Americans will continue to express "concern" and accuse Russia, since, in their opinion, it is Moscow that destabilizes the world situation.
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  1. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 4 May 2021 07: 41
    +33
    The Pentagon accused Russia of opaque military exercises at “borders of NATO "
    Insolence squared. Perhaps Russia has expanded so much within its borders that it has approached NATO's borders? Or have you forgotten where the borders of the USSR and the Warsaw Pact countries were? The further, the more difficult it is to talk with these "great and terrible" simple language.
    1. figwam
      figwam 4 May 2021 09: 31
      +11
      Russia is concentrating its troops on the border with Ukraine, and does not disclose the purpose of this concentration, but calls it exercises.

      And what have NATO and the border of Russia and Ukraine to do with it? Quite confused pependocik.
      1. Starover_Z
        Starover_Z 4 May 2021 15: 00
        +7
        Kirby explained to reporters the difference between "NATO exercises at Russia's borders" from "Russian exercises at NATO's borders."

        Yes, they are very different!
        NATO conducts exercises of the troops of the bloc countries AT THE BORDERS OF RUSSIA,
        and Russia conducts exercises of its troops IN ITS TERRITORY!
        NATO is marking time at the borders of Russia, just as Hitler's troops were concentrated at the borders of the USSR and also under "plausible" pretexts!
    2. Clear
      Clear 4 May 2021 11: 00
      +3
      Pentagon accused Russia of opaque military exercises near NATO borders
      Just wipe your glasses from the LGBT rainbow and you will see real military in Russia.
      1. NIKN
        NIKN 4 May 2021 12: 01
        +4
        According to Mikhail Zadornov, he is really so stupid that they also need to popularly explain the obvious. It even saddens me that we got such "stupid partners". For what sins have we been rewarded with them?
        1. Maikcg
          Maikcg 4 May 2021 16: 04
          0
          Why does God send tests? So that we finally believe in Him. (C)
          Well, this is a test ...
          (past the atheist)
    3. Fedor Sokolov
      Fedor Sokolov 4 May 2021 14: 29
      0
      So they apparently want to squeeze us out already on our primordially Russian lands. Plan "Ost" did not go anywhere, it was simply put on a shelf for the time being.
    4. RealPilot
      RealPilot 5 May 2021 02: 00
      +1
      Ooh yes! Impudence is not only squared, but also cubed. At the same time, it is absolutely TRANSPARENT ...

      And all the transparency was clearly expressed by Madeleine Albright (US Secretary of State) in the 90s:
      "What kind of world justice can we talk about when such a rich territory as Siberia belongs to one country?"

      And there are a couple more Brzezinski quotes, for example. And other "geniuses of geopolitics". They just dream of Siberia. There, this word is promoted as a symbol of Russian wealth.

      But something confuses them here quite frankly to meddle. You can get a brazen redhead (oh, I'm not in trend - bald!). So they walk around the bush, like the Krylov fox around the grapes ...
  2. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 4 May 2021 07: 42
    +17
    Comrade Kirby, to make our exercises transparent, let us hold them on NATO territory, by mutual agreement!
    1. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 4 May 2021 07: 45
      +13
      Quote: tralflot1832
      let us hold them on the territory of NATO, by mutual agreement

      Is it possible without an agreement? Let's just do it! A couple of combined-arms armies are very helpful in bringing to life the bloated NATO members.
      1. Clear
        Clear 4 May 2021 11: 01
        +1
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        Is it possible without an agreement?
        Necessary!
    2. Egoza
      Egoza 4 May 2021 07: 57
      +6
      Quote: tralflot1832
      Comrade Kirby, to make our exercises transparent, let us hold them on NATO territory, by mutual agreement!

      Or maybe give him the maps of the General Staff?
      1. venik
        venik 4 May 2021 15: 29
        +2
        Quote: Egoza
        Or maybe give him the maps of the General Staff?

        ========
        good Inspired by:


        drinks
    3. knn54
      knn54 4 May 2021 08: 04
      +6
      -them still do not understand the purpose of the concentration of Russian troops
      It's bad to be stupid /
      1. Tusv
        Tusv 4 May 2021 09: 33
        +4
        [quot = knn54] It's bad to be stupid / [/ quote]
        In in. It is stupid. How a fevered brain could translate the peace slogan Europe from Lisbon to Vladivostok. Only Russian tanks at the English Channel
        1. DymOk_v_dYmke
          DymOk_v_dYmke 4 May 2021 11: 07
          +1
          [quote = Tusv] [quot = knn54] It's bad to be stupid / [/ quote]
          In in. It is stupid. How a fevered brain could translate the peace slogan Europe from Lisbon to Vladivostok. Only Russian tanks at the English Channel [/ quote]
          Since everything is being turned upside down, a new peaceful slogan is needed: Eurasia from Vladivostok to Lisbon.
      2. Clear
        Clear 4 May 2021 11: 05
        +2
        Quote: knn54
        -them still do not understand ...
        It's bad to be stupid /

        Ah, they are not stupid No..
        They are convenient idiots for the Anglo-Saxonsyes
    4. Vladimir61
      Vladimir61 4 May 2021 08: 32
      +4
      Quote: tralflot1832
      The Pentagon accused Russia of "opaque" military exercises
      We are probably not quite "modern", according to their advanced concepts, and do not pass the test for openness and tolerance. For them, transparency is either all the "boys" to their underpants, and the "girls" to their underwear, or in each platoon an observer from the UN, NATO, OSCE, EC and the Red Cross with a Crescent.
      1. lucul
        lucul 4 May 2021 09: 30
        +2
        We are probably not quite "modern", according to their advanced concepts, and do not pass the test for openness and tolerance

        Yes, in general, everything is simple - do you bow your head before the Zionists or not. That's the whole section.
        1. Clear
          Clear 4 May 2021 11: 08
          +2
          Quote: lucul
          We are probably not quite "modern", according to their advanced concepts, and do not pass the test for openness and tolerance

          Yes, in general, everything is simple - do you bow your head before the Zionists or not. That's the whole section.

          Grind down the Zionists and Anglo-Saxons.
          Russians bow their heads only to their Motherland.
      2. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 4 May 2021 10: 32
        +5
        Quote: Vladimir61
        Quote: tralflot1832
        The Pentagon accused Russia of "opaque" military exercises
        We are probably not quite "modern", according to their advanced concepts, and do not pass the test for openness and tolerance.
        No, we have nothing to do with it. It's just spring and mattresses, due to the unstable psyche, have increased anxiety. The day before yesterday, they expressed concern about the fact that the Russian Federation and the PRC are playing pranks in space, yesterday they were worried about Russia's actions in the Arctic, and today they were alarmed about the movement of Russian troops across their own territory. Tomorrow they will be alarmed about the pimple that has jumped up at Navalny's opera house and wave Magnitsky's act, and the day after tomorrow they will fall into depression about the "unfinished" pipe of the SP-2. So the mattresses live, not a day without worries and doubts, and haloperidol no longer helps them.
        1. Clear
          Clear 4 May 2021 11: 11
          +3
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          So the mattresses live, not a day without worries and doubts, and haloperidol no longer helps them.

          Maybe sprinkle them ... with dust what
          1. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky 4 May 2021 11: 19
            +4
            Quote: Clear
            Quote: Nyrobsky
            So the mattresses live, not a day without worries and doubts, and haloperidol no longer helps them.

            Maybe sprinkle them ... with dust what

            No, dear colleague - Only euthanasia! yes
            1. Clear
              Clear 4 May 2021 11: 32
              +2
              Quote: Nyrobsky
              Quote: Clear
              Quote: Nyrobsky
              So the mattresses live, not a day without worries and doubts, and haloperidol no longer helps them.

              Maybe sprinkle them ... with dust what

              No, dear colleague - Only euthanasia! yes

              Passive euthanasia, they already do themselves.
  3. Tank jacket
    Tank jacket 4 May 2021 07: 43
    +10
    Military exercises and military parades are an element of contactless warfare.
    "... Where the red lines will pass, we will determine ourselves" (c).
    We will not tell you where we will draw these "red lines".
    Think analyze and be afraid.
    "Why do we need a world in which there will be no Russia."
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 4 May 2021 07: 52
      +4
      Quote: Tank jacket
      Military exercises and military parades are an element of contactless warfare.

      yes
      Quote: Tank jacket
      "We will determine where the red lines will run"

      good
      The most important thing is not to miss the moment when the Russian red lines will turn into NATO mourning ribbons.
      wink
  4. Blond84
    Blond84 4 May 2021 07: 45
    +3
    Hmm, insanity grows stronger. It is a pity that the tops of European countries are in the same boat with the USA. So not everything has been shown to us yet
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon 4 May 2021 09: 15
      +5
      Quote: Blond84
      Hmm, insanity grows stronger.

      This is not insanity, but a completely deliberate policy, which is designed to convince the whole world that Russia is a terrible and aggressive country, which is constantly nurturing plans to attack "peaceful democracies." Vaughn, Svidomo and the Baltic-Polish brotherhood "reveals" these plans every day. Well, who is the director of the entire performance is also clear. All in order to justify, in which case, their aggression against Russia. We, they say, are only defending ourselves.
    2. Clear
      Clear 4 May 2021 11: 13
      0
      Quote: Blond84
      It is a pity that the tops of European countries are in the same boat with the USA.

      And our thieves-oligarchs, incl. and in power, there is a lot more in this boat.
  5. Prisoner
    Prisoner 4 May 2021 07: 47
    +1
    Our good fellows. Let them blame, and the more and more the better. For us. laughing
  6. Troll
    Troll 4 May 2021 07: 49
    +2
    Uncle confused the exercises "at the borders of Russia" with the "Territorial exercises", when the troops are training while at home.
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon 4 May 2021 09: 20
      +2
      Quote: Troll
      Uncle confused the exercises "at the borders of Russia" with the "Territorial exercises", when the troops are training while at home.

      Ha! If he had said - "At the borders of Russia" (ie, at its borders) it would not have made an impression on the western man in the street. But he said - "At the borders of NATO", and this is already quite differently perceived by them
  7. Andrey Korotkov
    Andrey Korotkov 4 May 2021 07: 50
    +5
    Even the Rear Admiral has lost his temper, Matthew Lee is missing with his awkward questions for the Pentagon
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 4 May 2021 08: 03
      +4
      Quote: Andrey Korotkov
      Matthew Lee is missing with his awkward questions for the Pentagon

      Maybe he was already deprived of accreditation at the State Department. Painfully uncomfortable he is. Doesn't give rest to anyone.
      1. Andrey Korotkov
        Andrey Korotkov 4 May 2021 08: 06
        +2
        hi Good morning, not there yet, only he is a Psaki apponent usually
    2. Clear
      Clear 4 May 2021 11: 15
      +2
      Quote: Andrey Korotkov
      Even the Rear Admiral has lost his temper, Matthew Lee is missing with his awkward questions for the Pentagon

      Matthew Lee is handsome good Peskov still has to study.
      1. Andrey Korotkov
        Andrey Korotkov 4 May 2021 11: 25
        +2
        Well, it's not for nothing that they call him the White House Griller, literally - the White House grinder yes
  8. mark1
    mark1 4 May 2021 07: 52
    +2
    The purpose of the exercise is educational - to explain to NATO countries the need to maintain a safe distance from Russia, determined exclusively for each of these countries by the geographical location of their state borders
  9. stalki
    stalki 4 May 2021 07: 54
    +2
    Ugh at him one more time wassat what do they eat there? Have toxins hit your head? Let her run to mommy and complain about us, maybe she will feel better.
  10. Cowbra
    Cowbra 4 May 2021 07: 57
    +3
    This was stated by the spokesman for the US Department of Defense John Kirby.

    And why should they, with such talents, also Psaki? laughing
  11. Hagen
    Hagen 4 May 2021 08: 04
    -1
    It is difficult to gauge Kirby's performance without knowing exactly the amount of information that was provided to them and that that should be provided under the contract. The fact that the parties exchange such information is a practice that existed also under the USSR. Always during exercises, even regimental ones, there were border zones into which we could not enter our units (not to mention formations) without prior notification of the neighboring side. There was a case in our regiment, in 1986, when we ran into trouble about this and a few Finns were "disturbed". laughing The consequences for the army leadership were serious.
    1. alipes
      alipes 4 May 2021 09: 06
      +1
      You always have to negotiate. On behalf of our compound, they violated the airspace of the Finns two years later. The violator personally went to our border guards to get drunk on the Finns. We found a consensus.
  12. nnm
    nnm 4 May 2021 08: 18
    +6
    1. As I understand it, there is an international agreement that defines the procedure for mutual notification of the parties about the conducted exercises.
    2. Taking into account the fact that the Americans in their statement do not refer to specific facts of our violation of the articles of this document, we formally complied with everything. By the way, the representative of our Ministry of Defense said about this (apparently, precisely in order not to overcome the threshold of 13 thousand participants, when the side would be obliged to invite foreign observers, we divided the exercises into 4000 separate events. But since the agreement complied with - what claims can there be?).
    3. In all the materials that "hastily" had time to look, not a word is said about the fact that the legend of the teachings should be revealed.
    4. The Americans are better off keeping silent about their "transparency" - they still have missile defense in Europe around our borders against Iran and Korea. And lately they have been bluntly saying that the leitmotif of their teachings is opposition to Russia and China.

    Therefore, it seems to me that we can safely take their statements about exercises against Russia, which they claim as models, replace "Russia" in them with "the United States and NATO" and issue them according to a template every time in response to questions overseas "partners".
  13. Popandos
    Popandos 4 May 2021 08: 21
    +4
    The Pentagon accused Russia of "opaque" military exercises that it is conducting "near NATO borders."

    Since when did the border between Ukraine and Russia become Nata's border?
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 4 May 2021 08: 37
      0
      Quote: Popandos
      Since when did the border between Ukraine and Russia become Nata's border?

      The US borders end 12 miles towards the Pacific Ocean and 12 miles towards the Atlantic Ocean. Here are the mongrels' children sitting within this territory.
      1. Popandos
        Popandos 4 May 2021 09: 21
        0
        In fairness, I must say that they still have islands in the Pacific Ocean. But this does not change the essence.
        hi
  14. From Tomsk
    From Tomsk 4 May 2021 08: 32
    0
    The task of the troops is to prevent the Taras from thinking about the war.
  15. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 4 May 2021 08: 34
    +1
    The United States and NATO, unlike Russia, speak openly about the goals and objectives of their military exercises. All of them are defensive and aimed at "containment of aggression"
    They are the United States and NATO openly saying - "we are preparing to seize Russia."
  16. cniza
    cniza 4 May 2021 08: 56
    +5
    The Pentagon accused Russia of "opaque" military exercises that it is conducting "near NATO borders." This was stated by the spokesman for the US Department of Defense John Kirby.


    Ask, the NATO borders will have to be pushed back ...
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 4 May 2021 09: 02
      +1
      Come on, we can't get pissed in that direction. Let them sit quietly and not blather, no one will remember about them.
      1. cniza
        cniza 4 May 2021 15: 09
        +3
        They can't help saying that, and they will also arrange provocations with someone else's hands, not the United States, they will not allow us to live in peace ...
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 4 May 2021 15: 35
          +1
          When we are just minding our own business, we will be much closer to success than twitching about every occasion ... especially every little thing.
          1. cniza
            cniza 4 May 2021 15: 52
            +2
            Here, without options, you have to do everything without twitching and according to plan ...
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 4 May 2021 15: 57
              +1
              If there is / is worth getting into somewhere, only on serious / tense topics that are swayed by serious guys !!!
              To keep your finger on the pulse and push or hold the right side at the right moment!
              1. cniza
                cniza 4 May 2021 16: 40
                +2
                But we have no other options and serious guys are waiting for the moment when we lose our guard ...
                1. rocket757
                  rocket757 4 May 2021 22: 48
                  +1
                  Serious guys MAY create a situation where vigilance may not be enough !!!
                  It will take not a small margin of safety, foresight / ability to foresee and, what is most terrible, the ability to sacrifice less, so as not to lose EVERYTHING !!!
  17. rocket757
    rocket757 4 May 2021 09: 00
    +3
    Pentagon accused Russia of opaque military exercises near NATO borders
    Just remember why NATO's borders were registered at our borders?
    1. cniza
      cniza 4 May 2021 15: 10
      +2
      Exactly, who pressed against whom under the threshold ...
  18. Fedorov Ivan
    Fedorov Ivan 4 May 2021 09: 04
    -1
    unlike Russia, they speak openly about the goals and objectives of their military exercises.

    they are probably right, they have everything open there, yes, everything that is not useful or definitely harmful is allowed. And conversations and deeds, they dress the same way - they say something, smile for no reason and all the shame on the outside.
  19. alexmach
    alexmach 4 May 2021 09: 17
    0
    Hmm .. Are they really scared or what?
  20. HAM
    HAM 4 May 2021 09: 35
    +2
    "..... According to a Pentagon spokesman, the United States and NATO, unlike Russia, speak openly about the goals and objectives of their military exercises ....."

    Here are the arrogant! Read only the names of their teachings, and it will immediately become clear against whom they are directed!
    they put Russia on the goals and objectives ...
    Do they want our teachings to be called, for example, "Capture of Europe before lunchtime 2021"? So as not to fantasize ........
  21. APASUS
    APASUS 4 May 2021 09: 46
    +1
    US Department of Defense spokesman John Kirby usually blames everyone in the world, some Americans are the doves of peace! Forgot the American scheme with the rotation of troops in Europe?
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 4 May 2021 10: 07
      +1
      Quote: APASUS
      US Department of Defense spokesman John Kirby usually blames everyone in the world, some Americans are the doves of peace!
      For 300 years of coexistence, these "doves" have fought more wars than all of Europe in 1000 years, and even slavery must not be forgotten.
  22. Fedorov Ivan
    Fedorov Ivan 4 May 2021 10: 00
    +1
    Pentagon accused Russia of opaque military exercises near NATO borders


    Oh, excuse me - it's not transparent here, where you can see all the shame a mile away laughing Don't be discouraged - we really "love" you love
  23. Sergey M. Karasev
    Sergey M. Karasev 4 May 2021 10: 02
    0
    So the exercises have already ended, the troops are dispersed to their places of permanent deployment! Did Kirby just find out about them? Or did you think for a month what to say about this? Well, the brake ... wassat Now, after the fight, he waves his fists.
  24. Klingon
    Klingon 4 May 2021 10: 08
    0
    The Russian Armed Forces have the right to conduct exercises in the format they see fit without asking anyone's permission and are not obliged to notify anyone about it. bully
  25. faterdom
    faterdom 4 May 2021 13: 19
    0
    And what do they see here that is opaque?
    These teachings are not directed against you, but definitely get it!
    It is very transparently hinted.
    And they thought, why do we need the armed forces?
  26. gbaade
    gbaade 4 May 2021 14: 36
    0
    Was Kirby hoping our military was giving Facebook commands?
  27. Alexander Terentyev
    Alexander Terentyev 4 May 2021 15: 13
    +2
    We must do everything transparently, shoot live ammunition, and not at targets, but at real targets. Do this on a large scale so that hit results are visible. And there will be no complaints against us.
  28. NF68
    NF68 4 May 2021 16: 00
    0
    Please read the entire list of claims.
  29. Maikcg
    Maikcg 4 May 2021 16: 08
    -1
    Defense spokesman John
  30. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 4 May 2021 17: 50
    +1
    All of them are defensive and aimed at "containing aggression", of which Kirby did not elaborate. At the same time, Russia is concentrating its troops on the border with Ukraine, and does not disclose the purpose of this concentration, but calls it exercises.

    And the goal is simple: training actions to enforce the world of all sorts of inadequacies. The Georgians will tell you the details, if needed.
    1. xorek
      xorek 4 May 2021 18: 35
      +3
      Quote: Vasyan1971
      And the goal is simple: training actions to enforce the world of all sorts of inadequacies. The Georgians will tell you the details, if needed.

      While the mongrels have to be forced into peace .. And there are more and more of them!
      It's time to take on Sherkhan, this will be a real "compulsion"!
  31. opuonmed
    opuonmed 4 May 2021 22: 37
    0
    I have a question about NATO at the borders of the Russian Federation, what do we want for 41 years?
  32. out of habit
    out of habit 5 May 2021 03: 20
    +1
    Lived. Russia is great, but there is nowhere to conduct exercises. NATO borders are everywhere.
  33. don-1500
    don-1500 5 May 2021 07: 00
    0
    Well, here's the Rostov region for amers "near the borders." This is already impudence on their part.
  34. Black cowl
    Black cowl 22 May 2021 20: 25
    0
    Wouldn't they have gone for three funny letters?
  35. Burtas
    Burtas 23 May 2021 17: 12
    0
    It is necessary to conduct exercises in Venezuela, Nicaragua or Cuba ... then they will understand ...