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"If Russia is not kicked, it will perceive it as weakness": Polish readers on Moscow's reaction to the US-Norway military deal

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The conclusion of a supplementary defense agreement between Oslo and Washington was the reason for a separate discussion in the Polish media. As you know, Poland is closely monitoring any events related to Russia, especially if it relates to defense and security issues in Eastern and Northern Europe. Of course, they could not ignore the "Polish friends" and the reaction of the Russian Foreign Ministry to the Norwegian-American agreement.


According to Jacek Raubo, author of the Polish military-themed publication Defense24, Russia's position on the agreement is unambiguous: Moscow sees it as a manifestation of Oslo's destructive actions aimed at increasing the American military presence in the region. The author further notes, referring to the publication of Thomas Nielsen in The Barents Observer, that the Russian authorities allegedly distort the real picture of security in the region. Thus, the NATO airbase is located 500 km from the Russian border, and all the bases of nuclear submarines of the Northern fleet Russia is located at a distance of 60-100 km from the Norwegian border.

Raubo also notes that it was Russia that allegedly took the first steps in the arms race in the Arctic region. At the same time, Moscow, as the Polish observer writes, has never concealed its desire to militarize the Arctic.

But if the author of the publication still somehow keeps himself in hand, then the majority of the readership is not shy in expressions.

Russia has numerous military bases around its borders on a vast territory and in Belarus, on the border of Moldova and Ukraine, in Abkhazia, in the captured Crimea and Kaliningrad,

- writes a certain Countryman.

Another Polish reader emphasizes that the United States is in Norway at the request and with the consent of the Norwegians, and "Russian thugs" should not interfere in the affairs of other sovereign states.

To stop supporting Russia, you need to move to a carbon-free economy. Let's stop using gasoline, diesel, natural gas, coal and other unnecessary fossil fuels. We build wind turbines, be sure to install photovoltaic panels on each roof,

- the user with the nickname AntiVanya fantasizes.

Let's hope that AntiVanya, like other commentators, has already installed photovoltaic panels on the roof of his house and has long been moving exclusively by bicycle, forgetting about gasoline, diesel fuel and even gas ...

The only relationships Russia understands are teeth in the mouth and boots on the back of the head. If no one kicks Russia from time to time and treats Russians as normal people and not bandits, they immediately perceive it as weakness,

- Someone Clemens rants.

Apparently, the Polish audience is very bad with historical memory, otherwise they would remember how all attempts to put a “boot on the back of the head” ended and that it was Poland that for a century and a half was deprived of its statehood, being divided between Russia, Germany and Austria-Hungary.

The general aggressive attitude of Polish readers could not be diluted with rare adequate comments. Niuniu tried to explain that it is not Russia that is building military bases around the world, but the United States, and that it is the United States that is going to place its weapons in close proximity to Russian borders, surrounding Russia with a ring of its military installations. But such an assessment of the situation did not arouse understanding among other readers.

Meanwhile, the level of Russophobia in the Polish press is such that it is difficult to deny the need to strengthen the defense on the western borders: morally and ideologically, the Polish society is ready for aggression against Russia, the level of hatred among the Polish US satellites is off the charts.
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  1. NF68
    NF68 3 May 2021 17: 16
    +22
    Won't you break off your legs? He can do anything. You look at one thing and your hands will still break off.
    1. skif8013
      skif8013 3 May 2021 17: 24
      +18
      It’s too much to kick the bear, then either the stench from the pants will be or the pants will have nothing to wear.
      1. NIKN
        NIKN 3 May 2021 17: 47
        +15
        Well, funny kid. smile If his idea
        To stop supporting Russia, you need to move to a carbon-free economy. Let's stop using gasoline, diesel, natural gas, coal and other unnecessary fossil fuels.
        would have been at least as long as possible, the states would have shut his mouth first. laughing
        And it’s so scary, of course, that they are trying to kick us, and even a piece of shit in the form of Poland has stuck to that “boot”. laughing
      2. knn54
        knn54 3 May 2021 19: 16
        +15
        "After talking with some people, I have a pronounced complex of usefulness."
        Stanislav Jerzy Lets.
        1. frruc
          frruc 3 May 2021 21: 32
          +1
          the user with the nickname AntiVanya fantasizes
          ... to stop supporting Russia, we need to move to a carbon-free economy. Let's stop using gasoline, diesel, natural gas, coal and other unnecessary fossil fuels. We build wind turbines, be sure to install photovoltaic panels on each roof,


          Come on, gentlemen, Poles. hi
    2. Nikon OConor
      Nikon OConor 3 May 2021 17: 28
      +15
      We all go out to the clean-up, we need to plant more and more birches. That is to say - environmentally friendly air defense, it may not work against the United States, but for the Poles the most is it! laughing
    3. Alexander 3
      Alexander 3 3 May 2021 17: 52
      +10
      When a dog on a chain, it barks even more, this curses the owner for a bone. Let the dog free and it will bark only in a pack. We have many examples of such a dog's life.
      1. The comment was deleted.
      2. Mylenef
        Mylenef 3 May 2021 20: 32
        +7
        I recall the cases when dogs bark through the fence, but as soon as the "gate" is opened, they become silent, it is no longer interesting
        1. Alexander 3
          Alexander 3 3 May 2021 20: 50
          +4
          Well, yes, our grandfathers opened the gate, and even kicked. They just looked out of the booth.
    4. RealPilot
      RealPilot 3 May 2021 17: 52
      +9
      And Poland, in order not to build intrigues, must be divided into parts. Periodically...
      Yes, and the German lands, it is by the Russian will of the data, it is worth returning.

      And remind about the concentration camps for the Slavan brothers, and ask about the murdered and robbed Jews. Yes, they somehow "forget" about Czechoslovakia before World War II.

      There is a lot to remember! And that they were part of the Russian Empire, in fact, did not oppress them ...

      And they somehow harbored anger at the fact that they also went on campaigns to Moscow, but they were a bit thin. And the Polish empire did not grow together at all ... But this proud psheki cannot forgive.
      1. bukhach
        bukhach 4 May 2021 00: 45
        +3
        They need to be glazed, and only my God, as some Catholic rank used to say in past centuries, who is a man and who is a stupid brute will make out.
    5. st2st
      st2st 4 May 2021 04: 25
      0
      Nikolay, when you shouldn't underestimate the enemy, we already got a hat in Syria when our pilots were shot down at once
      1. st2st
        st2st 4 May 2021 04: 28
        0
        I deleted half of the text, freedom of information,
      2. Souchastnik
        Souchastnik 5 May 2021 07: 22
        +1
        Nikolay, you should never underestimate the enemy

        You are absolutely right. Therefore, it is necessary to increase the number of weapons aimed at Poland. To guarantee the destruction of US forces on its territory. And so that there are fewer shoes that can claim our back of the head.
        Mine, for example, is not a shoe rack.
  2. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 3 May 2021 17: 22
    +7
    It seems that this is an article from the section "news of the ward for violent". Who's got it on his own! The litter is universal, well-worn. The hyena of Europe has been repeatedly raped.
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 3 May 2021 18: 35
      +17
      Quote: stock buildbat
      It seems that this is an article from the section "news of the ward for violent". Who's got it on his own! The litter is universal, well-worn. The hyena of Europe has been repeatedly raped.

      They are Poles ... Poles. If only, under someone.

      1. st2st
        st2st 6 May 2021 09: 04
        +1
        In 2006, on Sakhalin, a Pole told me an amazing thing about Poland. He said that Poland, like that prostitute, cannot exist without a pimp. Previously, the role of a pimp was played by the USSR, now America. I was then surprised how a Pole could say that about his country.
    2. st2st
      st2st 4 May 2021 04: 36
      +1
      Unfortunately, tell Alexander Prokhorenko this to the deceased. If you know who he is
  3. for
    for 3 May 2021 17: 27
    +2
    Thanks to the West for the sanctions. At least a little pushed the “white-blue” Misha.
  4. Poetry
    Poetry 3 May 2021 17: 31
    +9
    If you don't touch the Poles, they will stink anyway. Because kafno.
  5. From Tomsk
    From Tomsk 3 May 2021 17: 45
    +3
    Poland is the hyena of Europe (W. Churchill).
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 4 May 2021 01: 53
      +3
      Quote: From Tomsk
      Poland is the hyena of Europe (W. Churchill).

      You have forgotten the definition of "greedy".
      "Poland is a greedy hyena of Europe "- Winston Churchill
  6. rocket757
    rocket757 3 May 2021 17: 48
    +6
    Is there something new?
    No.
    What is the point of discussing this?
    The wealthy of the whole world are delighted ... they are setting peoples against each other, and they themselves are getting richer as well ...
    1. Fan-fan
      Fan-fan 3 May 2021 21: 34
      0
      So this article sows enmity between ordinary people. YouTube is full of videos where ordinary Poles were asked on the streets how they feel about Russia. Look, be surprised - the overwhelming majority treat us well. But politicians muddy the waters.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 3 May 2021 21: 57
        +1
        So the rich have developed / adopted the correct principle, a long time ago - Divide and Conquer !!!
        Nothing, in principle, has changed since then ... the principle works as before! The technology of modern communications, beautiful, sweet deception, strapped to it, nothing more!
  7. cniza
    cniza 3 May 2021 17: 50
    +5
    morally and ideologically, Polish society is ready for aggression against Russia, the level of hatred among the Polish satellites of the United States is off the charts.


    Well, apparently one more historical round is coming up, everything repeats itself ...
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 3 May 2021 18: 37
      +3
      Quote: cniza
      morally and ideologically, Polish society is ready for aggression against Russia, the level of hatred among the Polish satellites of the United States is off the charts.


      Well, apparently one more historical round is coming up, everything repeats itself ...

      Nonsense. None of them is ready for anything, either morally or literally.

      Greetings, Vitya hi
      1. cniza
        cniza 3 May 2021 18: 40
        +5
        Good time! hi

        Gena, they are so encouraging themselves, otherwise they will start stuttering soon ...
        1. Terenin
          Terenin 3 May 2021 18: 43
          +4
          Quote: cniza
          Good time! hi

          Gena, they are so encouraging themselves, otherwise they will start stuttering soon ...

          What Russian does not remember A.I. Krylov

          ... For what, not being afraid of sin,
          Does the cuckoo praise the Rooster?
          For praising the Cuckoo.
  8. Compasure
    Compasure 3 May 2021 18: 02
    +3
    Let's stop using gasoline, diesel, natural gas, coal and other unnecessary fossil fuels.

    All the same, you will depend on Russia, where will you get the "Russian heavy trucks"?
    1. DymOk_v_dYmke
      DymOk_v_dYmke 3 May 2021 19: 41
      +1
      Quote: Compasure
      All the same, you will depend on Russia, where will you get the "Russian heavy trucks"?

      Sailing carts will be built. hi
    2. rocket757
      rocket757 3 May 2021 22: 00
      0
      Not everything is so sour with them ... The Percherons will again be divorced, as before.
  9. Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 3 May 2021 18: 04
    +4
    morally and ideologically, Polish society is ready for aggression against Russia, the level of hatred among the Polish satellites of the USA is off the charts


    This is exactly what the Western "independent" media wanted and they got it.
  10. Xlor
    Xlor 3 May 2021 18: 05
    +1
    Ipanut at them on all thermonuclear, would immediately calm down ...
    1. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 3 May 2021 22: 09
      +2
      Quote: Xlor
      Ipanut at them on all thermonuclear, would immediately calm down ...

      Yes, in the whole history of them, they have not just been fried, but somehow they all do not calm down. Apparently sick with stupidity, or even brainless from birth.
  11. Gato
    Gato 3 May 2021 18: 10
    +3
    Poles are a walking illustration of the thesis that history does not teach anyone, but only punishes for ignorance of the subject. It seems like today they are celebrating the 230th anniversary of the second most democratic constitution in the world, adopted by the akurat between the 1st and 2nd partitions of Poland. Rzeczpospolita moved horses in 1793. Are these events connected?
  12. Turist1996
    Turist1996 3 May 2021 18: 16
    +5
    What a wonderful example according to grandfather Freud: it is when the pshek themselves communicate or communicate as with normal people, they perceive it as a weakness. But "teeth knocked out with one boot in his mouth, and the second boot on the back of the head of Pshek's" lord "" immediately led him to understanding and constructive dialogue. Since the Middle Ages ..
    How cool these freaks and phantom pain look after the missed "Rzhecha from Mozha to Mozha"!
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 3 May 2021 18: 41
      +6
      Quote: Turist1996
      on the missed "Rzhechi from Mozha to Mozha"!

      And, there already and not far from the moon winked
      1. Turist1996
        Turist1996 3 May 2021 19: 46
        +4
        Well, they always had a level of fantasy. However, from their fantasies, I still respect and understand Stanislav Lem much more than the bells and whistles of the russophobic commentators now in power and singing along with them.
        request
  13. Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 3 May 2021 18: 17
    0
    You watch how Poland is drowning!
    Where is Wojciech Jaruzelski?
    The old man has already gone to the hillock?!. But no ..
    Oh Wojciech / Wojciech, why aren't you with me ?! ..
    They slapped my grandmother by birth - for nothing! ...
  14. 197
    197 3 May 2021 18: 45
    0
    Maybe it's time for them to plant the alley with "Poplar", they don't see the shores at all. Memory and conscience in a historical perspective is not traced.
  15. Terenin
    Terenin 3 May 2021 18: 46
    +5
    "If Russia is not kicked, it will perceive it as weakness": Polish readers

    Come, scarecrow, practice.
  16. notingem
    notingem 3 May 2021 18: 59
    +2
    The Far North is the homeland of the Poles. Stalin proved.
  17. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 3 May 2021 19: 01
    +4
    As far as I remember, on the Kola Peninsula with a bear, to neutralize the US presence in Norway, in addition to everything, there were Pioneers. In the light of new events with the INF, it will easily appear on the Kola Peninsula, which is very fast and accurate for these purposes. And I'm not sure that it will be with a high-explosive warhead. As we caught fish in the Norwegian zone, we catch it, and it has always been.
  18. Pavel73
    Pavel73 3 May 2021 19: 15
    +4
    Poland is scraping on its ridge.
  19. Usher
    Usher 3 May 2021 19: 35
    +2
    What, they were once strong? Do we perceive it as weakness? And what kind of power do they show? And where does psheki and Norway have to do with it? Norway is not part of NATO.
  20. Fedor Sokolov
    Fedor Sokolov 3 May 2021 19: 51
    +2
    Poland is the world's hotbed of Russophobic hatred. Once our tsars tried to subjugate it to Russia, but apparently sooner or later it will be necessary to put a final end to this source of anger towards the Russian people.
  21. Konstantin Gogolev
    Konstantin Gogolev 3 May 2021 19: 55
    +1
    Interestingly, and our comments are also discussed in Poland?
  22. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 3 May 2021 20: 00
    +3
    Russia has numerous military bases around its borders on a vast territory

    That's right: "around their borders"!
  23. opuonmed
    opuonmed 3 May 2021 20: 00
    +2
    the world is clearly crazy! they want to know that the world would not be!
  24. hohohol
    hohohol 3 May 2021 20: 19
    0
    Why pay so much attention to cov? They have a lot of sane people there, for example, Natalya Sadovskaya.
  25. EMMM
    EMMM 3 May 2021 20: 52
    +2
    Psheki are very strong in historical memory.
    Starting with the Commonwealth, as a vassal of the German orders, Lithuanians, Swedes, until 1830, she was always an enemy of Russia.
    Having gained freedom in 1918, this country immediately went over to military intervention.
    In 1938, these bastards surrendered the Czech Republic, for which they were "thanked" by the overlord in August 1939.
    But it seems that the history of fools does not teach ...
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  27. paco.soto
    paco.soto 3 May 2021 22: 48
    -1
    I read the article and comments. Well: to mister Poklonsky just a question - maybe there is nowhere to lower the VO level below !!! Why don't you give in 2021 a link to the material you are discussing? !! I found this site myself, got acquainted with the interest in articles and comments (I am a Slovenian and I can read all Slavic languages ​​fluently, except Bulgarian). The site is somewhat similar to VO. I will not express my opinion - there is no one once and I do not want two minuses.
  28. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 3 May 2021 22: 57
    +1
    Let's put militarism aside. I've been to Norway more than once. I talked with the Norwegians at the everyday level. Well, they don't have Russophobia from the word at all. Bergen is a very beautiful city. We constantly went to the Fish Market, the attitude was awesome. Everyone remembers that we stayed in Kirkenesse. Yes, during the war, we chopped enough of them. But they also supplied Germany with fish and not only fish. The most unharmed land during the Second World War. They eradicated the memory of cooperation with Nazi Germany. But I will never forgive that there were fascist concentration camps for Soviet prisoners of war and overseers were not only Germans, but also Norwegians. And so my personal opinion, the country is disappearing, letting in emigrants from all over the world, except Russia. I saw in Bergen, a bridge with rattles and sound screens at a length of 800 meters on both sides, and it was not the Norwegians who did it, let alone the Russians.
  29. AICO
    AICO 4 May 2021 00: 22
    +2
    We can kick it in the back of the head with a boot so that you will not only have teeth - even dental crowns will not remain, so fine smelly dust on which apple trees bloom well !!! Polish apple trees on the Poles - how fair!
  30. Roma 1977
    Roma 1977 4 May 2021 08: 32
    0
    ... and if you kick Russia, you can inadvertently choke on cyanide in the basement of the Reich Chancellery or arsenic on the island of St. Helena ... Karoch, everything is bad.
  31. iouris
    iouris 4 May 2021 20: 55
    +1
    The ban on the use of state symbols would be perceived by the Russian Empire and the USSR as an act of war.
  32. Ferdinant
    Ferdinant 5 May 2021 09: 59
    0
    He is a chaffinch and a chaffinch is in the meadow, what to expect from him except for droppings.