The Ukrainian Armed Forces conducted the first firing of shells purchased in the Czech Republic for the MT-12 "Rapier"

Yesterday, the Ukrainian Armed Forces successfully conducted the first firing of 12 mm UOF100 shells purchased in the Czech Republic for the MT-12 Rapier cannon. Each ammunition hit right on target.

This was reported by the press service of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine.

Artillerymen of the 30th Separate Mechanized Brigade of the Ground Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine carried out the shooting at the Rivne training ground. During the tests, the military carried out a visual inspection of the shells, and also measured their average, maximum and muzzle velocity. In total, 16 shots were fired in various modes of deceleration and high-explosive action of the fuse. At the same time, all the UOF12 ammunition worked normally, which indicates their compliance with the declared technical characteristics.

The Ministry of Defense of Ukraine noted that the army had a shortage of these ammunition due to the increased frequency of fires in military warehouses. Therefore, the defense department announced a tender for the purchase of shells for the Rapier cannons. It was won by Czech Defense Systems as, which offered a batch of repaired ammunition. Another participant in the tender was a company that had new shells, the cost of which was 30 percent higher.

This contract was criticized by the Rada deputies, who stated that they bought low-quality shells for the Armed Forces at an inflated price. The Ukrainian Defense Ministry denied this statement.

Comments

[Lech from Android.]

Someone put the Czechs on their paws in order to undermine the warehouses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Bulgarian seller with weapons in the Czech Republic and push through their contract ... in which case everything can be shoved into the intrigues of Petrov and Boshirov.
Well-known trick for crooks.

[Insurgent]

The Ukrainian Armed Forces conducted the first firing of shells purchased in the Czech Republic for the MT-12 "Rapier"

The Ministry of Defense of Ukraine noted that the army had a shortage of these ammunition

Against this background, the data of 2014 look interesting, according to which 4 MT-12R guns (almost all of the weapons of this modification available in the Armed Forces of Ukraine) with Ruta radar sights were thrown by scattered crews in the Georgievka area and got to us.

MT-12R

[businessv]

Quote: Insurgent

were thrown by the scattered calculations in the Georgievka area and got to us.

Then it turns out that the Czechs also planted the guns !? After all, if there were few of them, and even their loss, then what is the point of announcing a tender and purchasing shells? Inappropriate use of funds. Yes, the Czechs are losing something in relations with Russia!

[businessv]

Quote: Zotov1981

It turns out that in 2014 they lied to us about the loss of all the weapons by the ukrami.

Where does the infa about "all the tools" come from? Above is a comment from Insurgent, in which it is written in black and white about 4 (four). And below is an explanation about the tools in the basic configuration, of which the Square has a lot.

[mat-vey]

Quote: businessv

Then it turns out that the Czechs also planted the guns !?

Then it turns out that there were guns without radars - in the so-called basic modification.

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: businessv

Then it turns out that the Czechs also planted the guns !? After all, if there were few of them, and even their loss, then what is the point of announcing a tender and purchasing shells?

The Insurgent was talking about a modification with radar sights. MT-12R. The APU has a lot of conventional "Rapier" ... The guns are smooth-bore, the wear of the barrel bore during firing is less. This is a problem with rifled barrels in the Ukrainian Armed Forces. Saw ukropskie "Acats" after repair WITHOUT muzzle brakes. Which means shooting with "half" charges ... Unfortunately, the lethality of shells is not reduced because of this, only the range.

[Insurgent]

Quote: businessv

Then it turns out that the Czechs also planted the guns !?

You do not understand - MT-12 "Rapier", this is a "naked" modification and the APU had a lot of them, but the MT-12Р , with the "Ruta" radar sight, there was a very limited number ...

[mat-vey]

Quote: Insurgent

but the MT-12R

And MT-12K were / are there?

[Insurgent]

Quote: mat-vey

And MT-12K were / are there?

These are the "Brass knuckles"? No idea But I suppose that if they didn’t cope with “Ruta”, then the same fate awaits “Brass knuckles”.
Moreover, if "Ruta" is a "gun-sight" complex, then "Brass knuckles" is a much more complicated system - "gun-sight-shot".

[mat-vey]

Quote: Insurgent

then "Brass knuckles" is a more complex system "gun-sight-shot"

Yes, with "shots" most likely everyone already has problems ...

[mat-vey]

Quote: mat-vey

Quote: Insurgent

then "Brass knuckles" is a more complex system "gun-sight-shot"

Yes, with "shots" most likely everyone already has problems ...

Although it seems that this modernized "shot" should be used in the BMP-3 ..

[Lara Croft]

Quote: mat-vey

Although it seems that this modernized "shot" should be used in the BMP-3 ..

In the Armed Forces of Ukraine there are already 4 of them.

[mat-vey]

Quote: Lara Croft

In the Armed Forces of Ukraine there are already 4 of them.

And in the Russian Federation? And in AO? Do you understand the meaning of the expression "for all"?
and yes - shots are being made in Tula ...

[Lara Croft]

Quote: mat-vey

And in the Russian Federation?

560 BMP-3 for 2020 The Military Balance 2020. - P. 196.

And in the joint-stock company?

Joint stock company?

Do you understand the meaning of the expression "for all"?
and yes - shots are being made in Tula ...

Is incomprehensible in part of your phrase:

most likely everyone already has problems with the "shots" ...

the Russian Federation should not have any problems with this, tk. according to you they are released in Tula ...
Do not text me anymore.....

[mat-vey]

Quote: Lara Croft

Do not text me anymore.....

So no one asked you .. Especially with your level of understanding ..

[businessv]

Quote: Insurgent

there was a very limited number ...

Understood thanks!

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: Insurgent

4 MT-12R guns of this modification) with "Ruta" radar sights were thrown in the Georgiev area

I still remember this message ...

[poquello]

Quote: Lech from Android.

Someone put the Czechs on their paws

our youth hockey team yesterday shoved 11 pucks into the gates of young men from this forge of fascism, pleased

[Thrifty]

Lech from Android is an unfair competition, especially since there were anti-personnel mines, the Lord himself ordered to blow them up!

[figwam]

Yesterday, the Armed Forces of Ukraine successfully fired the shells purchased in the Czech Republic

Czechs have a tradition since the Second World War to supply weapons and ammunition to our opponents.

[prior]

The smoke of the Czech warehouses allegedly blown up by Petrov and Boshirov dispersed, and the mug of real Czech fascists, arming the Ukrainian Banderaites, crawled out.
That's all the ins and outs of the Czech-Russian diplomatic scandal, to cover up your subtle fascist essence with false news noise.
And who are the Czechs after that? Are they really civilized Europeans?

[Thrifty]

Prior, who is civilized in this rotten Europe? The rabble, ready not only to bark at Russia, but by order of the US will go further, at least to military provocations.

[businessv]

Quote: prior

And who are the Czechs after that? Are they really civilized Europeans?

Who even said that Europeans are civilized ?! Effective blowjobs - I agree, order in the country - I agree, a socially responsible country before its citizens - I also agree, but in relation to countries where you can make money, they are no different from other cap countries with mattresses at the head! Therefore, civilized or not is a more philosophical question than a practical one!

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: prior

And who are the Czechs after that? Are they really civilized Europeans?

This is exactly what "civilized Europeans" look like. And the British and Germans are the most "civilized" ...

[sabakina]

At the same time, all the UOF12 ammunition worked normally, which indicates their compliance with the declared technical characteristics.

As I understand it, this news is in spite of our "mad" "Caliber"?

It was won by Czech Defense Systems as, which offered a batch of repaired ammunition.

Agents Petrov and Vasechkin, ugh, Bashirov, after listening to the call of the radio program "Pionerskaya Zorka":
-"Back to the Future"!
took under the visor, answered "so exactly" and went to get air tickets.

[Insurgent]

Quote: sabakina

As I understand it, this news is in spite of our "mad" "Caliber"?

Well, comparing "Caliber", and stupid HE shell, it's powerful ...

[AshPoseidon]

This is how they now relate to the Czechs. By the way, the Russian national team at the junior World Cup 2021 defeated Chekhov with a score of 11: 1 and it pleases.

[cniza]

It was won by Czech Defense Systems as, which offered a batch of repaired ammunition.

Breaking the template, this is possible only in Ukraine, repair further ...

[maykl8]

The main role of 100 mm for the MT-12 Rapier cannon is the ANTI-TANK reserve of a motorized infantry brigade or division. Those. destruction of enemy tanks that have broken through to a depth of 3 km with pre-prepared lines (i.e. before the enemy appears). High-explosive fragmentation shells are needed for self-defense against infantry and against lightly armored vehicles. If the Czechs delivered new sub-caliber or shaped-charge projectiles, it would be understandable and logical. Obviously, due to the lack of artillery in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the MT-12 will be attracted to solve problems from closed firing positions. Based on the experience of the civil war in the Chechen Republic in 1999-2000. this is the case, but the MT-12 cannon is not mobile enough and, if the enemy has serious counter-battery warfare, it is a disposable weapon.

[wow]

"... due to the PARTICIPATED fires in military warehouses ...". Yes, things are lousy for kaklov, "Petrov-Bashirov" are annealed to the fullest !!!

[xomaNN]

For the Czechs and Bulgarians, the fact that these shells will shoot at their own Donetsk people do not care.
"Business is business" Those more "brothers"

[Aviator_]

average, maximum and initial speed.

From the average, it is clear - the range of the shot is divided by the time of flight of the projectile, but the initial velocity is equal to the maximum, unless an active-rocket projectile is used. Does Rapier use active-jet?

[faterdom]

Something is underperforming.
Petrov, Boshirov and Mishkin with Chepiga.
Probably, Putin gave time off for the May holidays.

[iouris]

Soviet-made ammunition. Gorby and Co. unleashed a world terrorist war and a civil war in the USSR. It is in the interests of the West and does not cost the West anything. Used Soviet weapon ammunition.

[bukhach]

It turns out that our wrong warehouses were jerked or just hands did not reach? An obvious omission.

[Viktor Sergeev]

Really, but the shells are not from that exploded warehouse?

[Old26]

Quote: businessv

Then it turns out that the Czechs also planted the guns !? After all, if there were few of them, and even their loss, then what is the point of announcing a tender and purchasing shells? Inappropriate use of funds.

Kamrad Insurgent wrote about the modification of the MT-12R with a radar sight, of which Ukraine had few. And just MT-12 cannons, according to Military Balance-2021, at the beginning of 2021, Ukraine had only 5 hundred in the ground forces and a certain amount in the marines

[Looking for]

fired back with their own Soviet shells. - Reported as newly acquired.

[svp67]

In current realities, money should not be spent on shells for these, in fact, "disposable" weapons, but on the creation and purchase of tactical high-precision weapons (high-precision weapons), the same kamikaze drones and guided low-weight projectiles

[Lara Croft]

Quote: svp67

In the current realities, it is not necessary to spend money on shells for these, in fact, "disposable" weapons,

We have a staff in each MSD / MRBR.

these "disposable"

provided ...

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Moreover, Vinnitsa is full of warehouses with different shells. A friend told me that they burned, but somehow badly, without enthusiasm ...

[Sancho_SP]

I am most frustrated by the inability to produce these projectiles on my own. There is the entire machine park in Ukraine, TNT and gunpowder too.

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Sancho_SP

I am most frustrated by the inability to produce these projectiles on my own.

And it makes me happy, it's strange that you are not here !!!!

[Sancho_SP]

And I'm sorry for the engineering school. Well, politics is rubbish everywhere, why root for it then ..

[mat-vey]

Quote: Sancho_SP

TNT with gunpowder too.

There is not TNT, but phlegmatized hexogen .. Not the easiest explosive to produce ..

[Sancho_SP]

In a high-explosive fragmentation projectile? There is enough TNT for the eyes. But those shells can be produced a lot, and not bought a little.

[mat-vey]

Quote: Sancho_SP

In a high-explosive fragmentation projectile? TNT is enough for the eyes

The designers thought differently ... Phlegmatized RDX is the standard filling of the HE shell ...

[Sancho_SP]

So what? This does not prevent the use of any available explosives, even with a slight decrease in effectiveness.

[mat-vey]

Quote: Sancho_SP

This does not prevent the use of any available explosives,

If there is production, then maybe not ... Only for the shooting tables, I would not vouch then ...

[Sancho_SP]

Weight is a controlled parameter during acceptance. The quality of the powder affects the trajectory much more strongly.

Another thing is that for an anti-tank gun, which, in general, normally only fires with direct fire, the tables are very conditional and it is not long to take aim.

[mat-vey]

Quote: Sancho_SP

the tables are very conditional and it is not long to take aim.

You are a genius of artillery ... Tell us something else ...

[Sancho_SP]

I just look a little wider. Take a look at the tolerances for the mass of the projectile and the initial velocity during the Second World War, it will become a little clearer;)

[mat-vey]

Quote: Sancho_SP

I just look a little wider. Take a look at the tolerances for the mass of the projectile and the initial velocity during the Second World War, it will become a little clearer;)

How simple it turns out ... And people shoot thousands of shells when the tables are made up ... they write the shooting rules ...

[Sancho_SP]

For the tasks of an outdated anti-tank gun in the hands of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Donbass, yes, everything is simple.

[mat-vey]

Quote: Sancho_SP

For the tasks of an outdated anti-tank gun in the hands of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Donbass, yes, everything is simple.

Then they have everything flying anywhere ...

[Sancho_SP]

Well, you finally start to understand;)

[mat-vey]

Quote: Sancho_SP

Well, you finally start to understand;)

Mental deviations, especially in military affairs, cannot be understood.

[Mikhalych 70]

Petrov and Boshirov have already been announced to the NSS for another warehouse that was not blown up in time ?!

[Kuzmitsky]

Yes, the lads do not have time for something. Or went to rest in May :)