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Forbidden Front: why the LPR is hiding the situation on the front line

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Dubovoy says



Recently, the well-known militia and military commander Gennady Dubovoy gave an interview, where he spoke about the difficulties faced by war correspondents working in the LPR. According to Dubovoy, today all exits to the front line are closed, and the restrictions are such that nothing significant can be removed.

“… These interviews are in the trench, when a person's shoes are polished with lacquer, he stands and in a cheerful voice, making a silly look in front of the authorities, says that“ we will not give up our native land ”and at the same time a piece of the trench is removed so that the enemy does not declassify us - this is about nothing and no one needs it. Even now it is impossible to shoot shelling ... We have reached the point of complete insanity, moreover, we cannot find anyone responsible for these censorship rules ... Three months ago I left, I'm afraid even to say in which direction ... In previous years, I would have been ashamed to spread it ... trench, faces must not be shown - nothing is allowed, only legs flicker. We got to the point where the Ukrainians were standing opposite and hoisted the Ukrainian flag. We filmed it. Let's go back - this cannot be shown, because our positions will be declassified. Yes, how will they declassify if they stand opposite and see us? "

- the military commander is indignant.

According to Dubovoy, he was even forced to cut out a fragment where in the background the soldiers were talking about a comrade who was blown up by a Ukrainian mine in 17.

“In our country, fighters do not die - these are cyborgs that are immortal. Only the enemy dies ",

- Gennady Dubovoy jokes bitterly.

Insanity was strong


Access to the front line began to be restricted in early 2015. First, everyone was cut off, except for the federal Russian media and representatives of the press service of the People's Militia. Then little by little they began to refuse the "feds". Gradually, a situation developed when it almost completely disappeared from the point of trying to shoot a report from the front line. All you can count on is filming the destruction in the village not far from the “front end” and talking with local residents. Of course, under the watchful eye of the military, who will then also make sure that everything "superfluous" and indigestible is cut out of the frame.

Or, as an option, a visit to pre-prepared positions that are very far from the combat zone, where a specially trained "fighter" in good shape, well-shaven and happy with his life, with carefully selected words will tell about "provocations of the enemy", etc. There is a suspicion that the military has long created special sites for these purposes, where either soldiers or actors, trained in this matter, "work" - it is no longer possible to make out. It is clear that all this tinsel has nothing to do with reality. Today, through the efforts of unknown censors, not only the pictures and details of the hostilities have been erased from the public consciousness, but also the very image of the defender of Novorossiya has been destroyed, replaced by an emasculated, implausible surrogate.

No face


Since 2015-2016, the People's Militia has become faceless. Only the icons of the already deceased heroes remained - the living were denied the right to heroism and glory. Not only did they stop publishing stories about the exploits and accomplishments of the defenders, but they also tried in every possible way and are trying to hide the problems and difficulties; the hardships of the service they face. Real people who grit their teeth, freeze and die in the trenches, were replaced by mummers, who are doing well, there are no problems, no losses, the fighting spirit goes off scale to the attacks of kondrashka. As a result, is it any wonder that NM LDNR is chronically suffering from a shortage of people willing to sign a contract?

People who daily risk giving their life or health for the LPR are simply denied the right to exist in public space. They have been erased from reality, just as they have erased real hostilities, tragedies and celebrations on the line of contact, replacing them with dry and contradictory statistical data, the reliability of which raises natural doubts among many. It has already happened more than once that optimistic statements about the alleged absence of violations of the ceasefire regime provoked an avalanche of criticism from local residents, who had to wait out this “absence” in the basements. And what, in general, is the point of reading the written chewing gum that "the enemy fired 12 shots from the BMP and 5 from the AGS" by someone unknown and unknown in what way? How can this, in general, be calculated and what is the sacred meaning of such calculations?

Playing in the dark


This entire malicious system was created not so much for security reasons or to combat enemy propaganda, as for the sake of partly its own convenience, partly to brown the cadaver of the Minsk agreements. Probably, speaking about the heroism of the defenders or about their exploits and victories and showing real combat actions, according to the anonymous censors, means being too aggressive. Therefore, we can only talk about violations on the part of the enemy and then, in a digestible form, so that there is no impression (in fact, close to reality) that "they are beating us, but we are getting stronger." Again, the depersonalization of the People's Militia stops the possibility of the emergence of recognizable, popular personalities who will subsequently be able to claim independence in decision-making and some kind of influence in the republics ...

At the same time, all this leapfrog simply eliminates the need to keep an eye on brisk and headstrong journalists and worry about political correctness and adherence to the official discourse in their messages. It is easier to build an analogue of the Mosfilm pavilion instead of going to the front line. Arrange dugouts and trenches at a safe distance from the front line and shoot spirit-lifting scenes there. Practical and economical. And if we assume for a second that a real video from the front line could be sold by the same media, then it is also profitable.

True, the common cause suffers from this, the fighters are offended, and the morale is falling, but this is already secondary. The main thing is to have order in everything!
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  1. The popuas
    The popuas 3 May 2021 10: 09
    -5
    Window dressing ... as elsewhere in Russia ... No.
    1. NIKN
      NIKN 3 May 2021 10: 20
      +27
      This is war! Not a show. "who wants to become .... The interests of the press should not be a priority here, because the price of this is people's lives. The main thing is to serve fried food to the press; masked, let him dig a kilometer of trenches and shoot.
      1. Vladimir Lenin
        Vladimir Lenin 3 May 2021 11: 48
        +12
        This is an alarming signal! The population is tired of the state of "neither war nor peace", military propaganda is already ineffective and only annoying, and the common man has subconsciously surrendered to the mercy of the victors! Even under the ghouls, but without war!
      2. Reiter
        Reiter 3 May 2021 12: 19
        +9
        War is now a much more complex concept than just bang-bang-bang, with such a scanty understanding of war, you can easily lose. There is also an informational component and work with the population, education, education in the spirit of patriotism. And when they show Potemkin villages, it only discredits. Even from Syria much more materials, incomparably more comes. But there is the Russian army, I don’t think there are fewer questions about secrecy, it’s just a matter of competently formulating and fulfilling the task of information support for the war in Donbass. It is clear that the easiest way is to prohibit everything at the root, and then no unnecessary data will leak out, it’s necessary to work, think, bear responsibility, but is it necessary?
      3. Sarboz
        Sarboz 3 May 2021 18: 04
        +14
        Quote: NIKNN
        The main thing is to serve fried to the press, they are not interested in the damage, he came and took off the hero

        But it is the representatives of this profession that form public opinion about the events taking place. And they do not care at all about the interests of the people, the military. They are not given a sensation, so it must be done.
        Quote: Popuas
        Window dressing ... as elsewhere in Russia ... No.

        Sometimes, if you have absolutely nothing to say, it is better to remain silent.
        1. Akuzenka
          Akuzenka 4 May 2021 15: 46
          +7
          They were erased from reality, as they have erased real hostilities, tragedies and celebrations on the line of contact, replacing them with dry and contradictory statistics,
          In my opinion, everything is simpler and more tragic, the world of capital, which has joined the war, does not need these heroes. They have fulfilled their role, no matter how cynical it may sound, now capital will (and has been doing for a long time) bargaining, gaining preferences and assets for itself. The fighters who stood up to protect families were (and will be, as more than once in history) used to enrich the capitalists. But as soon as capital needs their blood. he will throw them under shells, bullets, on mines. Scary, isn't it ?! We are all easily exchanged for villas, casinos, yachts and elite (and not so) escorts - "ladies". And it will be submitted that "Motherland is in danger"! So CAPITALISM!
      4. Nikon OConor
        Nikon OConor 3 May 2021 19: 01
        +10
        Since 2015-2016, the People's Militia has become faceless. Only the icons of the already deceased heroes remained - the living were denied the right to heroism and glory. Not only did they stop publishing stories about the exploits and accomplishments of the defenders, but they also tried in every possible way and are trying to hide the problems and difficulties; the hardships of the service they face. Real people who grit their teeth, freeze and die in the trenches, were replaced by mummers, who are doing well, there are no problems, no losses, the fighting spirit goes off scale to the attacks of kondrashka. As a result, is it any wonder that NM LDNR is chronically suffering from a shortage of people willing to sign a contract?

        A real army should be like that - faceless. That the magazines didn’t pick up on Motorola-type heroes? Where is he a hero? in the ground, and died not on the front line, but simply removed as unnecessary. You need new heroes ... The army is doing its dirty and bloody work, and making money out of it is simply a shame. The press is chasing new heroes and their deaths. There is nothing to be indignant here, take off what they give, or don't take off at all.
        1. Nikon OConor
          Nikon OConor 3 May 2021 19: 12
          +15
          The situation is not clear to the journalist. That "Motorola" (I respect him very much) was promoted and it was removed. The current Heroes of the LDNR looked at it and said - "don't fucking shoot us, we are fighting so well". They think about families that might be fatherless.
          1. Vladimir Mashkov
            Vladimir Mashkov 3 May 2021 20: 03
            +11
            Quote: Nikon OConor
            The situation is not clear to the journalist. That "Motorola" (I respect him very much) was promoted and it was removed. The current Heroes of the LDNR looked at it and said - "don't fucking shoot us, we are fighting so well". They think about families that might be fatherless.

            And the military knows better than journalists what to shoot and what not. There was once a poster: "A chatterbox is a godsend for a spy". Filmed when allowed.
            1. Nikon OConor
              Nikon OConor 3 May 2021 20: 10
              +3
              I saw a poster with "Motherland" (represented as a woman in red), where Motherland presses her finger to her lips, and the inscription below "Don't talk!"
              And then at school I had a notebook with the same image, but the inscription is different: "So that words do not diverge from deeds, you need to be silent and do nothing")) This is how our worldview was changed.
              1. Vladimir Mashkov
                Vladimir Mashkov 3 May 2021 20: 16
                +4
                Quote: Nikon OConor
                This is how our worldview was changed.

                I guess ours failed. But some succumbed.
                1. Nikon OConor
                  Nikon OConor 3 May 2021 20: 25
                  +1
                  Hmm ... I represent the circulation of these notebooks, I represent the number of students who later were not interested in anything except alcohol and drugs (the 90s in all their glory), but I myself am not sinless, but I read a lot, read everything and about everything. Therefore, I had my own point of view. While I was reading near the boiler room in front of my house, about 30 people were gathering narcs, they waited while in the next entrance they would be cooked to "shoot". I went to school - they were waiting, I came back - they were waiting again ...
                  1. Vladimir Mashkov
                    Vladimir Mashkov 3 May 2021 20: 32
                    +5
                    Quote: Nikon OConor
                    ... the 90s in all its glory ...

                    My school was in the 50s and 60s. Then there were no such notebooks. lol
                    1. Nikon OConor
                      Nikon OConor 3 May 2021 20: 39
                      0
                      By the way, it is this notebook (one of many) that I still have ... as a memory of perestroika.
                  2. Intruder
                    Intruder 4 May 2021 10: 14
                    0
                    While I was reading near the boiler room in front of my house, about 30 people were gathering narcs, they waited while in the next doorway they would be cooked to "shoot". I went to school - they were waiting, I came back - they were waiting again ...
                    Well, that's right, smart books - you need to read from childhood, so as not to wait until they cook all sorts of bullshit, for an immature young organism! You are just lucky, but others are not !!! So we see, then, already in the 21st century, the next generation from the parents of those stokers, in the 90s ... they then gave birth to their children in the 00s, after two or three - deviations and problems with development and health .. ...
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                1. Nikon OConor
                  Nikon OConor 3 May 2021 20: 34
                  0
                  You're lucky. Probably.
                  Analogy: Adam did not know good and evil until he tasted the fruit of knowledge.
      5. Normal ok
        Normal ok 4 May 2021 01: 23
        0
        Quote: NIKNN
        This is war! Not a show. "who wants to become .... The interests of the press should not be a priority here, because the price of this is people's lives. The main thing is to serve fried food to the press; masked, let him dig a kilometer of trenches and shoot.

        In fact, this is a "war" for many. Alas((
      6. Anatoly 288
        Anatoly 288 4 May 2021 15: 22
        0
        As I understand it, citizens are beginning to prepare for the surrender of Novorossiya! What is this…. the rulers were promised? As always, we were thrown! Therefore, the amendment to the constitution was pushed through about the ex-president's non-jurisdiction, only God marks rogue, you cannot hide from him with amendments!
      7. Vasily Terkin_2
        Vasily Terkin_2 6 May 2021 22: 08
        0
        Hello to Konstantin Simonov, when you put his bones to a laughingstock
    2. xorek
      xorek 3 May 2021 10: 31
      .
      Quote: Popuas
      Window dressing ... as elsewhere in Russia ... No.

      And where do you think there is no show for example? Are you trying to humiliate us?
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 3 May 2021 10: 52
        +3
        Window dressing and so on, an international phenomenon !!!
        This is not an excuse, this is not even a hint, this is a reason to seriously understand what is really going on there.
      2. The popuas
        The popuas 3 May 2021 16: 07
        -3
        I myself am from Russia
      3. Normal ok
        Normal ok 4 May 2021 01: 26
        -5
        Vitalya, you are unclean, you reincarnated. mind me.
    3. mister-red
      mister-red 3 May 2021 16: 24
      +9
      Show-off is when they show something that is greatly exaggerated and does not correspond to reality. It's just a ban on showing, i.e. censorship.
      1. Sarboz
        Sarboz 3 May 2021 18: 07
        +3
        Quote: mister-red
        It's just a ban on showing, i.e. censorship.

        Right. And in war without censorship is impossible. But censorship is harmful to the enemies of the DPR. Therefore, you should understand who is whining about window dressing here.
        1. Normal ok
          Normal ok 4 May 2021 01: 29
          -2
          Minimum!! complex of events in secret: only those who are directly involved.
        2. Vasily Terkin_2
          Vasily Terkin_2 6 May 2021 22: 09
          0
          It should be understood who is profitable to drain Donbass quietly. And we won't give up a single inch to shoot stories about the brave defenders for another year. Not mountains of corpses and ruins
    4. mole
      mole 3 May 2021 16: 53
      -5
      Quote: Popuas
      Window dressing ... as elsewhere in Russia ... No.

      Fraud and formalism.
    5. Ulysses
      Ulysses 4 May 2021 17: 03
      0
      The "military correspondent" has a poor understanding of what can be filmed and what can not.
      He needs a picture for which the fighters can lay down their lives.
    6. Severok
      Severok 12 May 2021 21: 34
      0
      It's just that everything is strictly censored. Someone doesn't want the truth about the war. There is no need for chroniclers who could stand on the same level with Yevgeny Khaldey, Roman Carmen and other cameramen and photographers of that Great War. Someone really does not need a film and video truth about the civil war in Little Russia.
  2. NDR-791
    NDR-791 3 May 2021 10: 12
    +8
    We have reached the point of complete insanity, moreover, it is impossible to find anyone responsible for these censorship rules ...
    I make a simple conclusion: those in charge are "those who need to" are responsible, since the correspondent cannot find them.
  3. Hlavaty
    Hlavaty 3 May 2021 10: 18
    +9
    It looks like an attempt to remove the LDNR to the far corner of the information space.
    The calculation is probably on the fact that to expel Donbass from TV screens means to expel it from the heads of the majority of the population.
    There will be fewer uncomfortable questions. And Soloviev will tell the "correct" thoughts to the viewers.
  4. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 3 May 2021 10: 34
    -7
    Standard. Remember the films about the Second World War: "... In the city of Ensk, our troops inflicted significant losses on the enemy ..."
    About their own - not a word. And what a city - also.
    Remember Afghanistan: propaganda posters where our soldiers in panamas plant trees and hand books to schoolchildren.
    Military correspondents walk along the parade ground, on which trophies are laid out in even rows.
    And in the USSR "black tulips" fly with 200 mi ...
    1. Genry
      Genry 3 May 2021 11: 09
      +12
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      Remember the films about the Second World War: "... In the city of Ensk, our troops inflicted significant losses on the enemy ..."
      About their own - not a word. And what a city - also.

      It was filmed by creatives like you.
      In the summaries, the location of the events was specified. True, the events themselves were not all, but the most important was selected in a short summary.
      See examples:
      http://great-victory.ru/?c=sib
  5. carstorm 11
    carstorm 11 3 May 2021 10: 36
    +3
    Egor, everything that you are describing now is standard. You are too emotional and you can be understood. But it’s safety because of the little things. This is not anonymization, but a system. Watch all videos in the DB area in Syria. There everything is performed in the same way by our MO. Everything is heavily censored. An exception is made only for VPs or PMCs. And there are a lot of reasons for this.
    1. knn54
      knn54 3 May 2021 10: 57
      -2
      Dmitry, everything is learned by comparison.
      Check out the news on Ukrainian channels.
      And the comparison will not be in favor of the LDNR
      1. carstorm 11
        carstorm 11 3 May 2021 11: 22
        -6
        To do this, you do not need to jump in the database zone! We need a good studio and a little money. And the picture can be sculpted as needed without restrictions.
      2. Kronos
        Kronos 3 May 2021 12: 23
        +3
        Comparison in what? They have a flurry of their propaganda there non-stop.
  6. 210ox
    210ox 3 May 2021 11: 04
    -2
    Yegor Makhov was not allowed into the trenches .. Sadness.
  7. Egor-dis
    Egor-dis 3 May 2021 11: 07
    +5
    For the first time in a long time, I fully agree with the article by Yegor Makhov. Surprised however.
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      1. ironic
        ironic 3 May 2021 16: 59
        .
        What's wrong? It's like that.
        1. sabakina
          sabakina 3 May 2021 17: 01
          +10
          Quote: ironic
          What's wrong? It's like that.

          Please, list the numbers of the belligerent military units!
          1. ironic
            ironic 3 May 2021 18: 11
            .
            # They're not there. What other parts? # You are all right.
            1. Usher
              Usher 3 May 2021 19: 39
              +4
              Quote: ironic
              # They're not there. What other parts? # You are all right.

              These are the usual numbers.
              1. ironic
                ironic 4 May 2021 14: 55
                -9
                Where do their nets come from? From for example:

                1st Separate Guards Airborne Assault Brigade,
                331st Guards Regiment, 98th Guards Airborne Division,
                Pskov 76th Guards Airborne Division,
                7th Guards Airborne Assault Division of the Airborne Forces,
                Ryazan 106th Guards Airborne Division ...

                Is it enough?
                1. Usher
                  Usher 4 May 2021 15: 23
                  +3
                  no, of course, you are writing some kind of nonsense
                  1st Separate Guards Airborne Assault Brigade,
                  331st Guards Regiment, 98th Guards Airborne Division,
                  What is this nonsense?
                  1. ironic
                    ironic 4 May 2021 16: 14
                    -6
                    Well, yes, # there will be no. Ktob doubted.
                    1. Usher
                      Usher 4 May 2021 16: 42
                      +4
                      Quote: ironic
                      Well, yes, # there will be no. Ktob doubted.

                      Empty words.
                      1. ironic
                        ironic 4 May 2021 16: 52
                        -6
                        Yours, but empty.
                2. Usher
                  Usher 4 May 2021 15: 25
                  +5
                  331 regiment is not "ichtamnet"; they have not even been to Crimea. You even wrote nonsense in the first line, do not continue. I can also write meaningless sets of letters, without proof. You just listed the divisions with errors. And where are the proofs?
                  1. ironic
                    ironic 4 May 2021 16: 16
                    -7
                    Yes, yes, it is especially not clear why to beat up the BBC staff and plant people who provided information, if they are not there. This is the best proof.
                    1. Usher
                      Usher 4 May 2021 16: 42
                      +5
                      Quote: ironic
                      Yes, yes, it is especially not clear why to beat up the BBC staff and plant people who provided information, if they are not there. This is the best proof.

                      What are you talking about? You can bring normal evidence, and not grimace here.
                      1. ironic
                        ironic 4 May 2021 16: 51
                        -9
                        It’s you grimacing. These are the results of an investigation by a group working with the Russian section of the BBC and information from people who were accused of treason for providing it. This is normal evidence. For people.
                      2. Usher
                        Usher 4 May 2021 20: 22
                        +3
                        Quote: ironic
                        It’s you grimacing. These are the results of an investigation by a group working with the Russian section of the BBC and information from people who were accused of treason for providing it. This is normal evidence. For people.

                        So where is this evidence, I see only your empty words !? BBC is Western media, referring to them is ridiculous. They are not an indicator at all. If only a video or photo is clearly linked to the location, then there would be no questions. And then, somewhere, someone, something ...
                      3. ironic
                        ironic 5 May 2021 15: 02
                        -4
                        From this, there are just empty words. That already the Internet with these photos was filled up with SAM and Masta and Grady and BMP and BMD. What is not there. Isn't it funny to refer to the snarling media? Uryaki is this indicator? What? Uryak? And no questions asked. Zombies do not ask questions.


                        This is it?


                        This is it?


                        This is it?


                        This is it?
                      4. Usher
                        Usher 5 May 2021 16: 39
                        +1
                        Iiiiiiii? Are these the Pskov paratroopers?
                      5. ironic
                        ironic 6 May 2021 01: 07
                        -3
                        Which ones from Pskov I do not know.
                    2. serezhasoldatow
                      serezhasoldatow 5 May 2021 21: 02
                      +2
                      Where did you get it? Online? I can also give you a lift, from Syria, from Belarus, from Lithuania, etc.
                    3. ironic
                      ironic 6 May 2021 01: 08
                      -3
                      You can't. And he took, among other things, articles from the Russian branch of the BBC.
                    4. serezhasoldatow
                      serezhasoldatow 13 May 2021 16: 11
                      0
                      Well, oh-oh-very "true" information from ...
    2. serezhasoldatow
      serezhasoldatow 4 May 2021 15: 34
      +2
      You also need to see your ...
      1. ironic
        ironic 4 May 2021 16: 18
        -6
        My what? What is not visible?
        1. serezhasoldatow
          serezhasoldatow 4 May 2021 22: 56
          +3
          Rave!!! Achinea is easier to carry than a log.
          1. ironic
            ironic 5 May 2021 13: 04
            -4
            Well, then it is clear why it is easier for you.
  • Intruder
    Intruder 4 May 2021 10: 09
    -4
    Please, list the numbers of the belligerent military units!
    Reply
    Quote
    Tovarisch, and you by a chance, do not work in the state secret service or in an adjacent "office", your question is very interesting (a joke, although in every part of a joke ...) !? wink
  • Ingvvar08
    Ingvvar08 4 May 2021 09: 11
    +2
    Khazarin ironic agrees with the "forest brother", in truth irony.
    1. ironic
      ironic 4 May 2021 15: 00
      -6
      Khazarin is your relative from whom you descended in some kind of knee? This is quite genetically common. For obvious reasons. wink And the forest brothers were in the Baltic regions, you better read what you write first.
      1. Usher
        Usher 4 May 2021 15: 27
        +2
        Quote: ironic
        Khazarin is your relative from whom you descended in some kind of knee? This is quite genetically common. For obvious reasons. wink And the forest brothers were in the Baltic regions, you better read what you write first.

        You don't even understand what the joke is))) You write with errors, where will you come from?
        1. ironic
          ironic 4 May 2021 16: 49
          -7
          I see your jokes even before they are formed, like glass.
          From Israel.
          Searching for errors in forum posts is a nuisance.
          1. Usher
            Usher 4 May 2021 20: 24
            +1
            Quote: ironic
            I see your jokes even before they are formed, like glass.
            From Israel.
            Searching for errors in forum posts is a nuisance.

            And then everything fell into place, another Mossadov got out or whoever you have there))) Sits here scribbling anti-Russian comments))) So sit in your Israel and don't go here. Or if you are sitting on a Russian site, then cover your mouth, otherwise it stinks. And mistakes in plain text are an indicator of intelligence. Seriously.
            1. ironic
              ironic 6 May 2021 01: 19
              -2
              Yeah, straight Israeli Petrov and Bashirov rolled into one, but without a beginner. Unpatriotic huh? Only general approval! And who are you? This is an internationally accessible forum, not your personal LJ. I express my opinion. And I will express it. And you can't read it anywhere, if you have something to object, except for the shouts of a hurricane, you object. But no, pass by, do not linger.
              And to continue to rub for mistakes in forum posts is tediousness and lack of intelligence. Seriously. Moreover, I am neither Russian nor Russian, and I do not write in Russian except forums with transliteration anywhere, for at least 25 years already.
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        1. ironic
          ironic 10 May 2021 12: 45
          0
          Well, for the anti-Semitic chutzpah, try to surpass you. What I want to talk about, as long as it does not violate the rules of the forum.
          1. Ingvvar08
            Ingvvar08 10 May 2021 12: 50
            0
            Mrazi - Mrazevo
            1. ironic
              ironic 10 May 2021 13: 12
              0
              Well, yes, then nothing should surprise you in relation to yourself.
  • Aag
    Aag 4 May 2021 08: 35
    +5
    Quote: sabakina
    Quote: Mezabralis
    This secrecy is quite understandable
    In order not to accidentally see parts of the Russian army that are actually fighting in the Donbass.


    Let me explain for those present ...
    Of course, not everyone knows the Latvian language, not everyone pays attention to Niki ...
    Mezabralis (mezabralis) - is translated from Latvian as "forest brother" ...
    If this does not say anything to anyone, then:
    "Forest brothers" (Latvian mežabrāļi, lit. miško broliai, laisvės kovotojai, partizanai, Est. Metsavennad) is the unofficial name of the armed nationalist formations operating in the 1940s - 1950s in the Baltic republics: Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia, as well as in the western regions of the Pskov region of the RSFSR (transferred in 1944-1945 to the RSFSR from Estonia and Latvia). The greatest rise of this movement, which used, in particular, terrorist methods, was in Lithuania in 1944-1947 ... "(Wikipedia ) ...
  • URAL72
    URAL72 3 May 2021 11: 59
    +3
    It is clear where the equipment comes from, but in the NM there are practically no volunteers from Russia left. They even take citizens of Ukraine from us - come, go to the military registration and enlistment office and you will see who is behind the levers of tanks, self-propelled guns, air defense systems. This can be taught in a month, somehow, but you can. The lists of personnel can be found on the Internet - they are drained to the fullest. Check it out, find pages in social networks, and you may understand that TSN is not news, but a tool to influence your child's gyrus.
  • Vladimir61
    Vladimir61 3 May 2021 12: 01
    +6
    Quote: Mezabralis
    The people rolled up money and formed an army ...
    Yes, in due time "Narod" handed over money, and the militia bought weapons from the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and gave zvizdyuli, a regular army, which is still being trained, supplied and equipped with mercenaries and instructors from all over the world. Why, apparently, not only in Ukraine, but also in the West, and in particular, in Lithuania, it hurts my teeth. Blitzkrieg did not work, washed up with bloody snot, ate our own shit!
    And in seven years not only was the "Army" formed, but also some new systems appeared. Where did it come from?
    In December 2019, VVP answered at a large press conference, - "tanks and heavy artillery appear in hot spots of the planet from structures of states that sympathize with one or another party to the conflict." Point!
    1. ironic
      ironic 3 May 2021 17: 00
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      Well, actually, he confirmed what was already known beforehand.
  • Usher
    Usher 3 May 2021 19: 40
    +6
    Quote: Mezabralis
    This secrecy is quite understandable
    In order not to accidentally see parts of the Russian army that are actually fighting in the Donbass.
    I think that no one here has a secret about the units that are fighting in the Donbass.
    Of course, there are also actors who are trying to show that the inhabitants of Donbass are fighting.
    The people rolled up money and formed an army of hundreds of tanks, guns, with modern electronic warfare, excellent air defense. In addition, it turns out that miners and metallurgists are well versed in the art of war, know how to handle complex artillery systems and other military equipment. laughing

    Can I have proofs? Or are they sick fantasies?
  • Usher
    Usher 4 May 2021 15: 28
    +2
    Quote: Mezabralis
    This secrecy is quite understandable
    In order not to accidentally see parts of the Russian army that are actually fighting in the Donbass.
    I think that no one here has a secret about the units that are fighting in the Donbass.
    Of course, there are also actors who are trying to show that the inhabitants of Donbass are fighting.
    The people rolled up money and formed an army of hundreds of tanks, guns, with modern electronic warfare, excellent air defense. In addition, it turns out that miners and metallurgists are well versed in the art of war, know how to handle complex artillery systems and other military equipment. laughing

    You were not asked who can do what. Sit up straight.
  • serezhasoldatow
    serezhasoldatow 4 May 2021 15: 31
    +3
    Of these? Got it!!!
  • sunzhenets
    sunzhenets 3 May 2021 11: 27
    +10
    NM LDNR chronically suffers from a shortage of people willing to sign a contract due to the size of a monetary allowance of 15 rubles (for 000), and not from the absence of reporters in the trenches.
    In addition to unmasking, which has already been written about, there is one more reason not to let the correspondents on the front line.
    Being in the DB zone, no one pleases their family, which is somewhere far away, with stories of exploits and military romance. Everyone reports home something soothing, like "I'm swelling at the grocery store." And then a body comes with a camera, and your relatives see you on TV, in an environment that doesn't look like a grocery store. He does not ask for permission to shoot - it's a zap, he's a free press. The legend is destroyed, the family drinks valerian (this is a real case).
    1. Intruder
      Intruder 4 May 2021 10: 05
      -6
      Being in the DB zone, no one pleases their family, which is somewhere far away, with stories of exploits and military romance. Everyone reports home something soothing, like "I'm swelling at the grocery store." And then a body comes with a camera, and your relatives see you on TV, in an environment that doesn't look like a grocery store. He does not ask for permission to shoot - it's a zap, he's a free press. The legend is destroyed, the family drinks valerian (this is a real case).
      Well, just a children's circle of a young soldier and a war correspondent, in my time they did not ask permission to take pictures of faces, but simply the "extras" themselves advised journalists and their operators in a firm voice not to do this in order to avoid problems later !!! And if such are all the cores and nerves in the family of a contract soldier, and he knows this before signing and leaving, then why should he go there, arrange family sadism personally ... when sick parents and hysterical wife figure out how he earns pennies ...? ??
  • No name B
    No name B 3 May 2021 13: 40
    +4
    The problem is still in social networks, correspondents will photograph you and you will instantly become famous in Ukraine ...
    1. ironic
      ironic 3 May 2021 17: 03
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      This problem is easily solved by retouching faces or, in extreme cases, camouflage clothing that covers most of the face.
      1. Intruder
        Intruder 4 May 2021 09: 56
        -2
        This problem is easily solved by retouching faces or, in extreme cases, camouflage clothing that covers most of the face.
        fifteen minutes for frame-by-frame exclusion and gluing in any free linear video editor on a laptop, right on the spot - and all problems with restricting access to video frames are solved in the skillful hands of the operator or the editor of the film crew!
        1. ironic
          ironic 4 May 2021 14: 46
          -4
          So that's not the point.
    2. Intruder
      Intruder 4 May 2021 09: 59
      -3
      you will be filmed by correspondents and you will instantly become famous in Ukraine ...
      agree before shooting and there will be no face in the frame, if the operator is a professional, and if not .., then do not show your face yourself: you pulled on a balaclava (ski mask), or a rag on your face up to the eye line and let your tactics be removed for hours at a time. what is the problem, but if everyone's feeble-mindedness and a hand grow from a soft, then why then arrange a circus on the front line! ??? wink
  • Mikle2000
    Mikle2000 3 May 2021 20: 09
    -3
    Hundreds of thousands of people have fled from the republics not from a good life (some in Russia, some to Ukraine, some even further). Most of those who remain, I am not afraid of this expression, are dragging out a miserable hopeless existence. The end of the edge is not visible to this at all.
    So the "horror" that the author describes is just foam on top of the abyss.
    1. Usher
      Usher 4 May 2021 16: 44
      +1
      Quote: Mikle2000
      Hundreds of thousands of people have fled from the republics not from a good life (some in Russia, some to Ukraine, some even further). Most of those who remain, I am not afraid of this expression, are dragging out a miserable hopeless existence. The end of the edge is not visible to this at all.
      So the "horror" that the author describes is just foam on top of the abyss.

      Well, is Russia to blame for the fact that the neo-fascists made a coup? Thanks to Nuland cookies)
      1. Mikle2000
        Mikle2000 5 May 2021 20: 26
        0
        from kharkov, kiev and lviv - cities ruled by neo-fascists do not flee, leaving their homes, jobs, loved ones. They leave to work, but do not run, leaving everything.
        And so yes, the Americans and the replicloids from the alpha-centauri are to blame for everything.
  • geniy
    geniy 3 May 2021 21: 00
    -4
    It is interesting to know: why is such total secrecy being imposed - after all, Ukrainian drones have long ago filmed the entire configuration of the trench line and all their dugouts and pillboxes?
  • EMMM
    EMMM 3 May 2021 21: 03
    +1
    The moment of truth has come, or "Yes" or "Not Yes".
    The situation in eastern Ukraine has reached its limit.
    1. Intruder
      Intruder 4 May 2021 09: 53
      -3
      The moment of truth has come, or "Yes" or "Not Yes".
      The situation in eastern Ukraine has reached its limit.
      Come on, it's a tragedy for you to catch up, for 6 years the fraternal peoples have been feeding this, and retirees and other surprisingly adults are people, they believe everything and put their relatives on so that the young meat will run to the contract itself, they have no brains and experience, but believe every Masha / Earrings, from the telegram and social networks ... and forward to liberate the land from that side and from this side !!! wink yes
      1. EMMM
        EMMM 14 May 2021 23: 52
        0
        I would have learned Russian.
        My mother is 86 years old and my sister and her family live in the current capital of the Luhansk region (not to be confused with the LPR). And I can't go there ...
        1. Intruder
          Intruder 15 May 2021 00: 00
          0
          I would have learned Russian.
          Braces - so, but they excite me that you are so free to poke me ???????????????????????????????????????????????? We don't know each other yet ... and we didn't drink vodka together in the bar ... request Russianness is like a syndrome, on the face .. honestly !!!
  • Maks1995
    Maks1995 3 May 2021 21: 17
    +1
    And what did you want? Is there a lot of news and truth from the rest of the buffer zones?
    The zones should fulfill this function - to keep the unwanted / enemy in suspense.
    And the rest is the people's government, the Russian spring, the Orthodox Cossacks, etc. - Disappeared suspiciously quietly.

    Polite instigators like Strelkov returned to Moscow long ago and serve on. Who is on the information front, who else is where.
  • Radikal
    Radikal 3 May 2021 23: 14
    +4
    Recently, the well-known militia and military commander Gennady Dubovoy gave an interview, where he spoke about the difficulties faced by war correspondents working in the LPR. According to Dubovoy, today all exits to the front line are closed, and the restrictions are such that nothing significant can be removed.

    In fact, in the area of ​​the DB there are always restrictions on the activities of the media, at one time I myself had to suppress the activity of some zealous magazines ... the south, one of which "disappeared" from public space, though it is not my fault, it is like in that saying - for what I fought for, I ran into it. However, in this case, the situation is probably as follows: the territory was cleared of "undesirable" unit commanders, this issue was resolved under the flag of the work of the Criminal Code's special services, they themselves probably did not expect such a result, and maybe there was an "agreement", whatever the problem was decided in the interests of the Russian Federation and the Criminal Code. If someone disagrees with my opinion, I am ready to listen. Therefore, somehow regretting the current situation is to lull yourself. I must honestly, frankly say - truthful information about the current situation in the LPNR is not beneficial to anyone in these republics, and, accordingly, in the Russian Federation. Why wag! When I was studying in one worthy institution, we had a teacher. from the department of fire training, so he loved the saying:
    "We call a cat ... a cat, and nothing else!" Meant (for especially quick-witted lol), which is the truth, and there are its interpretations. This is what I mean, but the fact that the official media is an organized "criminal" (if it works against the majority of the population) group / community, acting in the interests of the ruling class. So take it easy, the author, in this situation nothing can be corrected. To my deep regret. hi
    1. Intruder
      Intruder 4 May 2021 09: 50
      -1
      This is what I mean, but the fact that the official media is an organized "criminal" (if it works against the majority of the population) group / community, acting in the interests of the ruling class. So take it easy, the author, in this situation nothing can be corrected.
      It is true, and for whom it works like that, precisely for the population but in favor of the ruling class, that's what the gloomy joke is, consumers are ordinary people, and especially close ones behind the curtains and outside the cells row the favor! laughing
  • Intruder
    Intruder 4 May 2021 09: 47
    +1
    The theater of the absurd, in the Luhansk region is growing stronger, not like in 2014, freemen and volunteers from all sides in a continuous stream, even American citizens were, well done guys from the Commonwealth of Kentucky and northern Virginia came, I personally knew a couple of their shooters now, sometimes we communicate !!! Yes, and the Belgians in the volunteer detachments on the other side, worked very hard, good shooters and with their purely European equipment, and how many vodka and peppers we ate in those Palestinians, and Russians and Ukrainians with all sorts of foreigners on holidays ... and hours of friendship between peoples , when the generals all sorts of self-proclaimed over strategic maps whiled away their nights, babble ....! And now the press services, federal channels, shame on the blood of people, media content is made and sold ... the war for the media - only and nothing more!
  • Pastor
    Pastor 4 May 2021 10: 00
    0
    The people are tired, even the state of neither peace nor war oppresses people. They don't care anymore, as long as they have something to buy bread for. The tops are fattening, the bottom is falling deeper and deeper into the abyss of the poor. Here it goes to waste: who will fall first, Ukraine or the LPR.
  • machinistvl
    machinistvl 4 May 2021 16: 41
    -2
    What to show? People are tired of showing off, they want it all to end faster!
  • Natalia M.
    Natalia M. 4 May 2021 17: 09
    0
    Thank you!!! Now I understand why I have been wasted for three years, albeit loudly, indignant on the topic - where are the same reporters from the front lines, where are their reports from the battlefield, where are the real military correspondents who we saw from the days of Afgan and Chechnya ??? ..... Whose reports showed reality and simply caused an explosion of my patriotism, even if you go under arms yourself. But when the girls-pion Erki and the boys from the boutique salons appeared as reporters from the battlefields, who broadcast with a gush of "impressions on all channels, I completely fell into despondency, this is a show, not a report. I thought it was a sinner. degraded and commercialized our real fans, whose reports we were waiting for. And what, it turns out, is going on ... Even the professional reporters themselves were indignant ... Well, who cares?
  • Oleg133
    Oleg133 5 May 2021 07: 37
    +1
    What are Russian interests? ..
    Russians SHOULD save Alavitushki brothers, seal the fragile interethnic peace on the planet (and in the USSR) with their blood
    Well, die before retirement, of course.
    1. Santa Fe
      Santa Fe 6 May 2021 03: 23
      -1
      and die before retirement, of course.

      Russia has developed for centuries not so that you now wipe your pants in retirement

      Our state is strong and developed enough to influence the course of history, cut the international map and win wars

      This is the main task for the country's leadership, and not the useless problems of Russian inhabitants.
  • Petrik66
    Petrik66 5 May 2021 11: 16
    0
    The handwriting of the political commissars of the Soviet spill.
  • Prizr
    Prizr 5 May 2021 15: 18
    0
    If people see that a ragged kid is sitting there against a whole army, questions will arise, where are the brave Airborne Forces and Iskander? Every day of the existence of the republics is paid for with the lives of rootless heroes.
  • Prizr
    Prizr 5 May 2021 15: 21
    +1
    If people see that there is a ragged guy sitting there against an armed army, there will be a lot of questions. There are even enough dunce who think that this is being done for reasons of tactical secrecy. I myself knew. Every day of the LDNR's existence is paid for with the lives of rootless heroes.
  • George Koval
    George Koval 5 May 2021 17: 39
    0
    the Ukrainians destroyed all the commanders (Mozgovoy, Motorola, Givi, Zakharchenko, etc.) It is the basic safety of the fighters that should be a priority. And for the sake of sensation, the press often highlights patriots, substituting them for nationalists and other freaks!
    1. glum
      glum 7 May 2021 09: 23
      +1
      Oh, did the Ukrainians destroy ...)). And where is the evidence that it was they, and not their own, who cleaned up the unwanted ones?
  • 23424636
    23424636 5 May 2021 21: 16
    0
    Let at least someone knock out who lives here and have their say. The war has got out and there will be no end to it .... 3 main issues have not been resolved - direct railway communication with Russia. direct transfers from and to Russia and direct parcels from Russia to the republics and this topic has not been allowed for 7 years. The fact that they bristled is even visible to a blind person at the entrances of the roads. But these are trifles. The republics are a pledge for Ukraine's non-entry into NATO, but what about the pledge? mediocre, so there will be no kin.
  • Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
    0
    ***
    And YOU try to change the camera to a machine gun,
    maybe then you will understand ...
    ***
  • IL-18
    IL-18 6 May 2021 09: 15
    0
    I wonder if Pushkin wanted to become a censor? Perhaps somewhere in the shower, yes. But even the great Pushkin created taking into account the requirements of the state. The author, well, somehow understand that sometimes an accident can be the cause of great irreparable grief.
  • awn60
    awn60 7 May 2021 19: 51
    0
    And rightly so. Have you already forgotten 2002, how terrorists watched live broadcasts of NTV on Dubrovka in NORD OSTE? And why does the military leader need the open faces of the LPNR fighters. Few of the heroes of the LDNR with open faces were killed as a result of acts of sabotage by the SBU and the GUR of Ukraine? This militia and military commander Dubova is either simple, like satin panties, or a provocateur. So I see.
  • Towarish
    Towarish 9 May 2021 19: 04
    0
    For a long time already small kingdoms-states, banana republics, decide their oligarchic affairs.