Tests of the Czech wheeled self-propelled howitzer "Dana-M2" began in Ukraine

In Ukraine, the tests of the Czech self-propelled guns Dana-M2, which are planned to be put into service with the Ukrainian army, have begun. According to the press service of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine, one sample of "Dana" was delivered to the Rivne region.

The Ukrainian military department has begun testing the Czech Dana M2 self-propelled howitzer, which, if positive feedback is received, should replace the Soviet-made D-20 towed howitzers in the Armed Forces of Ukraine. In total, according to the plans of the Ukrainian military, the Armed Forces should receive 26 Czech self-propelled guns. It is noted that apart from the Czech Republic, no country was able to offer Ukraine similar wheeled self-propelled guns.

The question arises, what about the "famous" Ukrainian self-propelled howitzer "Bogdan" caliber 155 mm, why is the Czech self-propelled gun "Dana-M2" purchased, and not her? The Ministry of Defense of Ukraine has an answer to this: the 152-mm self-propelled gun "Dana M2" is not a competitor to the Ukrainian self-propelled guns, since the "Bogdana" will go into service with artillery brigades. True, when it comes is not explained, but the shells for its tests have already been purchased. Currently, the only prototype ACS "Bogdan" is at the "Kramatorsk Heavy Machine Tool Plant".

The Czech self-propelled gun DANA-M2 is a deep modernization of the self-propelled gun ShKH Dana vz. 77, this variant appeared in 2018. Ukraine may become the first foreign operator of a Czech howitzer; so far, no self-propelled gun has entered service with other countries. For what reason, one can only guess. Maybe 152 mm caliber doesn't suit, or maybe something else.

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[Prisoner]

Yes, Schaub did not make it to the landfill.

[Egoza]

Quote: Captive

Yes, Schaub did not make it to the landfill.

On our roads? It will definitely not make it!

[210ox]

The car is interesting by the way. In the 80s, they wanted to put an early version of Dana into service with the SA. Apparently they did not find any advantages over our ACS, but there is one drawback. It does not charge from the ground.

[hrych]

Quote: 210ox

It does not charge from the ground.

rest in peace to her
To put this on trial in the LDNR

[210ox]

For trials in the LDNR ?? !!! But what about the ban on the use of heavy artillery systems according to the "Minsk agreement". It is being tested at a test site in Russia.

[hrych]

I think there is not much to experience there. The tower is standard with an excellent elevation angle, the tower rotates 180 degrees, the stabilizers are appropriate. You don't need to turn around to get away quickly. At the Czech, the cab of the tractor looks at the opponents, therefore it requires a turn. A useful thing, the network of roads, including unpaved roads, allows it to be used effectively. I agree, a formidable and highly mobile weapon and I am glad that ours did better. The Malva is still being tested, where the crew left the massive turret for the tractor cab. Even more correct, they got rid of the extra load.

[210ox]

I don't see the cutting machine. Everything is still from the ground. And who said that on Dana the crew is riding in the tower?

[alpamys]

Quote: 210ox

The car is interesting by the way. In the 80s, they wanted to put an early version of Dana into service with the SA. Apparently they did not find any advantages over our ACS, but there is one drawback. It does not charge from the ground.

In the 94th year, 4 new Dans came to Vtorchermet of Astana for cutting, with one of them he twisted a small turret with an armored shutter that was on the top.
It does not charge from the ground, there are AZ and the shells are installed vertically in the belt on the sides.

[210ox]

It is interesting to observe how colleagues patriotically criticize a Soviet gun with an automatic loader mounted on a Czech chassis. On Skoda "many will be happy to dissect ..

[xorek]

Quote: Captive

Yes, Schaub did not make it to the landfill.

Yes, Schaub's engine jammed and the gun burst ..

[Prisoner]

Yeah. And Schaub all the calculation for dysentery struck.

[xorek]

Quote: Captive

Yeah. And Schaub all the calculation for dysentery struck.

Schaub is right in the truck and all at the same time ..

[Viktor Sergeev]

There is a discussion on the size of the rollback. As soon as the "testers" agree, they will report to Zelensky: the rollback is normal, you can take it, and you can not even bring it, the main thing is to transfer money and get a bribe, and self-propelled guns can immediately be written off as lost in battle.

[For example]

Quote: Victor Sergeev

There is a discussion on the size of the rollback.

Since this is artillery, then
- normal rollback!

[210ox]

You shouldn't be sneering. This is a very formidable weapon, and highly mobile at that. It is not in vain that the Kakaly move away from the towed artillery. It can be said that this is an analogue of the current "Archer" for the ATS countries. And naturally the Czechs have modernized it more than once.

[Viktor Sergeev]

The wheel system, in principle, cannot be highly mobile, especially for a real war. The wheelbase is for road driving, a frivolous thing. In order for this to shoot, you must first turn around, put on supports, and this is the time. Such cars are ersatz for beggars.

[210ox]

Watch a video of Dana's shooting. You will see both supports and it will not work off-road ..

[Viktor Sergeev]

Well, for Ukraine, a 70% rollback is normal, so they may not agree.

[Aaron Zawi]

ACS Dana were used by Azerbaijan during the war and received a positive assessment.

[DDZ57]

Azerbaijan has its 36 pieces. He combined 152 mm Dana self-propelled wheeled howitzers made in the Czech Republic into a separate artillery brigade, which, while quickly moving from site to site on the southern front, provided the appropriate results. The Azerbaijani side, she said, purchased the specified self-propelled guns "for the rate of fire, mobility and other outstanding tactical and technical characteristics." The Azerbaijani army also used Russian Msta-S, Pions and other artillery systems in the conflict.

[Patigorsk2020]

Quote: DDZ57

The Azerbaijani side, she said, purchased the specified self-propelled guns "for the rate of fire, mobility and other outstanding tactical and technical characteristics."

There is truth in your words, but there is one nuance. The Azerbaijani side preferred deep modernization in Israel. Israeli specialists worked on a fire system, satellite communications and other innovations, and yesterday I personally spoke with a person who served in the 2nd Karabakh war and they were impressed not only by the rate of fire, but also by the accuracy of this system. I will not lie, whose version of modernization is better, the Czech version or the Israeli, but a friend told me that they fired back and immediately changed positions, and behind them there was always some truck with ammunition driving and quickly filling up ammunition ... Everything was automatic.

[Patigorsk2020]

Quote: DDZ57

The Azerbaijani army also used Russian Msta-S, Pions and other artillery systems in the conflict.

Also true. In the conflict, both Peony and Msta-S were used in full, which also showed themselves excellently. Only as far as I understand, Dans can more quickly change the place of dislaktion. The comrade says the most powerful is Peony in terms of power.

[Viktor Sergeev]

Yes, any weapon will go against the Armenians. When there is practically no reconnaissance, counteraction, dry, movement on the roads and it will do. Weapon for rogue against even barmaley and Armenians.

[Patigorsk2020]

Quote: Victor Sergeev

Yes, any weapon will go against the Armenians. When there is practically no reconnaissance, counteraction, dry, movement on the roads and it will do. Weapon for rogue against even barmaley and Armenians.

I agree completely.
They are ungrateful. In the 2nd Karabakh war, the Russian side helped many of them, including from the shameful defeat of the last troops. Do you know what they say in response? Yesterday or the day before yesterday, in the Armenian parliament .......... these "ancient" and "brave" ones began to insult Russia's weapons, comparing its quality to kolosh. Ungrateful.

[Viktor Sergeev]

When I studied at the military school (air defense), we had an Armenian and an Azerbaijani, both dumb as traffic jams, either only such people went to the military, or they are all like that. Well, the Armenians are not capable of mastering complex techniques and applying them, yes, they can trade. Azerbaijanis are not far away, but they have more money, and the Turks helped them.

[Patigorsk2020]

Quote: Victor Sergeev

Azerbaijanis are not far away, but they have more money, and the Turks helped them.

I would not say that. just google famous Azerbaijanis and you will change your mind. A couple of students are not the whole of Azerbaijan. Believe me.

[Viktor Sergeev]

There are also famous Armenians. The question is not how many smart people there are in the nation, but on the average level and in those who go to the army (this is for war). In the army, I encountered Armenians, Azerbaijanis, Asians, you can say about everyone the way Zadornov said about the Americans. Example: an Armenian, after 4 years of military school, knew only two words close to technology: pendot (pentode) and kandot (cathode), the Russians were expelled, and these national cadres graduated from the school. Do you know how an Armenian was pushed into a military school (according to him)? They said that they are training to be an agronomist.

[max702]

This is the meaning of fraternal people ..

[aszzz888]

Aron Zaawi (Aron)
Yesterday, 12: 10

mourning has been declared in Israel, there are a bunch of corpses, and here you are collecting likes!

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: aszzz888

Aron Zaawi (Aron)
Yesterday, 12: 10

mourning has been declared in Israel, there are a bunch of corpses, and here you are collecting likes!

H'm. Nothing. They fought for what they ran into. Let their admors be blamed.

[aszzz888]

Aron Zaawi (Aron)
Today, 08: 21
H'm. Nothing. They fought for what they ran into. Let their admors be blamed.

Here she is your mean little soul. That is why you are brave here, at VO. And there is little to say where the emergency occurred? WEAK and stinky! Because as you know, they will break into molecules!

[atalef]

Quote: aszzz888

And there is little to say where the emergency occurred?

strange, we talk about it openly in the news (central).

Quote: aszzz888

Because as you know, they will break into molecules!

do we have for expressing your opinion? You are clearly beguiled something.

[aszzz888]

atalef (alexander)
Today, 13: 20

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Quote: aszzz888
And there is little to say where the emergency occurred?

strange, we talk about it openly in the news (central).

I heard a ringing, but you don't know where he is. Advocate. Read and understand.

[atalef]

Quote: aszzz888

I heard a ring, but you don’t know where he is.

Well, you kind of wrote about mourning, so it's tomorrow, and to be honest - of course I feel sorry for people - but they are to blame - religious fanaticism is not gut.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: aszzz888

Here she is your mean little soul. That is why you are brave here, at VO. And there is little to say where the emergency occurred? WEAK and stinky! Because as you know, they will break into molecules!

Damn, how are you so alternatively omniscient?

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Aaron Zawi

ACS Dana were used by Azerbaijan during the war and received a positive assessment.

Why did they throw off the video from the artillery range? These self-propelled guns were in service with the Georgian Army, in the war on 08.08.08/XNUMX/XNUMX and were abandoned on the highways by the Georgians ...
So, if the enemy's command is stupid, then in Ukraine the self-propelled guns will be abandoned or destroyed by the LPNR ...
There are a lot of barrel PAs in the APU, but the ACS after 2014-2015. has become smaller, the purchase of a Czech SPG only confirms this .... the choice of the specified SPG is successful, because any other self-propelled guns of the same caliber will be much more expensive ...
Due to the lack of technology and competencies in Ukraine, the production of barrels for artillery (as well as small arms) weapons in the future does not give any prospects for creating its own self-propelled guns, there are no large operators of Soviet self-propelled guns in the CIS countries (except for the Russian Federation) either ...
In 5-7 years, Ukraine will be forced to completely abandon Soviet artillery systems and switch to "enemy" weapons .... barrel wear and ammunition consumption will do their job ....

[pyagomail.com]

I don't understand the "non-brothers", why do they need howitzers? We are not going to conquer them, let them not count. And if they go to Donbass, they will be shooted regardless of whether they have 26 Dan ...

[113262a]

Why, they will, as it is now, shit on the peaceful people from the controlled territories, and immediately change their position. Who's in the way? Minsk is no alternative, no answer, and then the third world, sanctions and other crap. Yesterday - DAP and Trudovskaya area. In Donesk.

[pyagomail.com]

[quote = 113262а] will, as it is now, shit on peacekeepers from the controlled territories,[/ Quote]
They don't dare to use artillery? More mortars, small arms?

[113262a]

Yesterday EXACTLY 122 d-30. About 50 arrivals. In Donetsk, an anecdote - write on the roof of the door - HERE LIVES THE OWNER OF THE PASSPORT OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION. They say it helps!)))

[cat Rusich]

Quote: 113262

Why, they will, as they do now, shit about peacekeepers from the controlled territories, and immediately change their position. Who will interfere?

Organize a guerrilla movement on the land of Donbass occupied by the Nazis - beat the occupiers day and night - so that more than one weapon does not get close to the DPR and LPR at a shot distance.
Peace will be - after the Victory

[113262a]

It is easier to organize the evacuation of residents from the areas under fire to Russia. Let me remind you that the partisan movement during the Patriotic War was organized by the NKVD and the USSR People's Commissariat for Defense. Not by amateur restorers, but by the state. So -Organize a partisan movement on the land of Donbass occupied by the Nazis - beat the invaders day and night - so that not one weapon gets close to the DPR and LPR within a shot distance. It's to Shoigu and Putin! The LDNR does not have such resources.

[cat Rusich]

Quote: 113262

It is easier to organize the evacuation of residents from the areas under fire to Russia.

It means to admit the DEFEAT and the loss of Donbass ... and tomorrow the Crimea will be bombarded - what will also be evacuated?

Quote: 113262

Let me remind you that the partisan movement during the Patriotic War was organized by the NKVD and the USSR People's Commissariat for Defense. Not by amateur restorers, but by the state.

There are DNR awards - the title of the Hero of the DNR, the Order For Military Valor, the Medal For Military Merit, the insignia "St. George's Cross of the DNR" - awards are like those of a "real state" - that's what you need to correspond - to PROTECT YOUR PEOPLE no matter what what "Minsk pleasures".

Quote: 113262

The LDNR does not have such resources.

Will FIGHT against the fascist occupation of Donbass - there will be funds ...
And so "No peace - no war ..."

[113262a]

It is clear, ZAMPOLITTO broadcasts! Some slogans! The footcloth, as I understand it, I didn't have to sniff ...

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Quote: pyagomail.ru

I don't understand the "non-brothers", why do they need howitzers?

Czechs want to profit from Ukraine, while it is still warm, no less than the rest of the banquet participants, like Poland and Bulgaria. A small fit from the hosts in the face of the USA and Germany.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: pyagomail.ru

I don't understand the "non-brothers", why do they need howitzers?

They don't want howitzers.
They sell the residents of the LPR and DPR (whom they consider as their own) as targets
for practicing technology. Lousy position.

[Viktor Sergeev]

I explain: any foreign equipment is bought by Ukrainians for a triple price with 70% rollback. Now it is clear why they are buying?

[APASUS]

Drive this car along a muddy road, because there is black soil in Ukraine. I think I won't be able to cope

[Grits]

Quote: APASUS

Drive this car along a muddy road, because there is black soil in Ukraine.

Why drive it through black soil? After all, Ukraine is full of normal roads. And the machine is very good. Unfortunately, we do not have anything similar yet in the series.

[APASUS]

Quote: Gritsa

Why drive it through black soil?

In your mind, the fighting goes exclusively along the roads .................

Quote: Gritsa

After all, Ukraine is full of normal roads.

Don't tell this to anyone else

[113262a]

The first Danes appeared among non-brothers in the 14th year - they were seen near Shirokino. But in small quantities. Almost elusive-. And very accurate.

[rotmistr60]

except for the Czech Republic, not a single country was able to offer Ukraine similar wheeled self-propelled guns.

Or maybe other countries didn’t want to offer anything? Considering recent events, it is safe to say that the Czech and the Ukrainian are twins. Only the Czechs, trying to make money, do not take into account the Ukrainian mentality, on which more than one Ukrainian partner has been burned.

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Or maybe other countries didn’t want to offer anything?

Other countries are pounding 404s on other fronts. They just threw a bone to the Czechs.

Czechs trying to make money do not take into account the Ukrainian mentality, which has burned more than one Ukrainian partner.

It seems to me that on the supplies of the Czech BMP-1 through Poland, everything has been welded. The EU will not allow itself to be thrown to Ukraine.

[rotfuks]

During the Soviet era, after Gorbachev's surrender, several military units from the Warsaw Pact countries arrived in our city. One part arrived from Hungary and were armed with Czech self-propelled howitzers "Dana". So only these howitzers left the echelon on their own. Everything else was pulled together with a crane or tractors. At the time, there were many Czech Tatra trucks in the national economy, so all these “Danes” quickly went as donors of spare parts to the Tatras. But the holiday was over quickly, all those Czech Tatras on air-cooled engines. Requires special high temperature engine oil. And such special oil simply did not exist anywhere. I don't think there is such oil in Ukraine.

[Tusv]

Not well. What stops us to hand over to Malka and Peony without warheads. Donbas? Nothing

[whatis love]

The reaction of the US and the EU: we are afraid that we will be finally strangled by sanctions

[Tusv]

My dad took over to teach me. I took a pry bar. I say Dad's hand will hurt. From the block, the property will suffer. Bottom line. He took Father on his arms and carried him to sleep. What else could he do. I have 90 kg and KMS in SAMBO, but there is only 60 in it. Other mistresses weigh more heavily

[Dkuznecov]

Some big deviations in the series.
After all, oranges will not be born from aspen.
60 kg and then bam - all 90.
Consider that I'm kidding, of course, it can
folder receiving.

[Igor Ushakov]

We bought 26 new, modern howitzers. This is probably why we have again, from the first of May, the price of a communal apartment.

[Basarev]

Excellent. The Czechs will be able to earn extra money by shoving illiquid garbage into Chlamina.

[210ox]

You mean this "garbage" on more accurate. Highly mobile system with a Soviet gun and AZ. And now it's also modernized.

[hagen]

It is true when it will be received is not explained, but the shells for its tests have already been purchased.

Are these not the shells that burned down in warehouses in the Czech Republic? Then you will not wait for Bogdan ...

[JonnyT]

In the course of who, the Danes can use Excalibur? Like there was infa that they can. If so, then this is bad news. They will drink a lot of blood.

[210ox]

There is a 152mm cannon on Dan, a Soviet caliber and a Soviet cannon. I have not heard about rearmament at 155mm. Although a similar system was modernized near Slovakia, they may have supplied a NATO weapon.

[Roma 1977]

Didn't Georgia have "Dan" in the 08.08.08 war?

[210ox]

There were. One was even taken as a trophy. But why does a Georgian choir need a good instrument?

[Reserve buildbat]

Judging by the buildup when firing forward - "in the biliy svit yak in a kopiichku", and when firing sideways one shot - and sideways.

[jovanni]

Tests of the Czech wheeled self-propelled howitzer "Dana-M2" began in Ukraine

Somehow she managed to slip past Basharov with Petrov. This time the peasants did not keep track of ...

[Olegkh]

Okay, well done. If the hour "X" comes, there will be something to meet uninvited guests)

[aszzz888]

Olegkh
Yesterday, 23: 23
NEW
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Okay, well done. If the hour "X" comes, there will be something to meet uninvited guests)

Pull the saucepan over your ears harder, it will not be blown off by a blast wave!

[Olegkh]

Called - "like a puddle farted." Nothing to say on the topic?

[aszzz888]

Olegkh
Today, 07: 19

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Called - "like a puddle farted." Nothing to say on the topic?

You don't.

[Olegkh]

What's wrong ? I write in Russian, I do not plan to attack Russia. I just want to have a world, and our neighbors did not climb with their vision of the world.

[tolmachiev51]

- "The question arises, but what about the" famous "Ukrainian self-propelled howitzer" Bogdan "caliber 155 mm" - a penny is dumb, they scraped up only one Czech one, that's enough for now. !!!,

[Olegkh]

How much is, everything is a plus for us.

[Xlor]

The Kakel army with such self-propelled guns will be invincible!

[abrakadabre]

What a hefty barn!