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German magazine predicted Germany's reaction to the clash between Russia and NATO

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German magazine predicted Germany's reaction to the clash between Russia and NATO

Germany is unlikely to participate in a military conflict with Russia in the event of a clash with NATO countries. Writes about this German edition Handelsblatt.


According to the German publicist Wolfgang Munchau, who speculated about a hypothetical military conflict with the participation of Russia, the fifth article of the NATO charter, which, for example, the Baltic countries are counting on, will not work instantly, and in some cases will not work at all. As an example, he cited Germany, which most likely will not participate at all in the confrontation with Moscow.

Munchau writes that a possible military conflict could erupt when the Suwalki corridor is captured by Russian troops. In his opinion, Russia, together with Belarus, can try to connect the Kaliningrad region of Russia with the territory of the Union State, and this is best done in the area of ​​the Suvalka corridor. Why is Russia, the German publicist does not tell.

However, he emphasizes, in the event of such an invasion, Article 5 of the NATO charter will not work instantly, and some countries will simply ignore it, for example Germany, which prefers to establish good relations with Russia, rather than fight it. Berlin hopes to complete the construction of Nord Stream 2 and purchase a Russian vaccine against coronavirus.

Summing up, Munchau notes that the more European countries will depend on Russian gas and vaccines, the less they will be ready to fight with Russia, and "Moscow knows this."
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  1. Cananecat
    Cananecat April 30 2021 08: 23
    +15
    At least one country in Europe is sane and that's already good.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza April 30 2021 08: 28
      +24
      Quote: Canecat
      At least one country in Europe is sane and that's already good.

      Well, they cleared their brains well in due time, and the denazification was successful. (Wouldn't it be better for Ukraine to clean it too!)
      1. Prisoner
        Prisoner April 30 2021 08: 48
        +18
        Ukraine will have to go through this sooner or later. It is desirable, of course, that it would be early. Until the big firewood was broken.
        1. Roma 1977
          Roma 1977 April 30 2021 15: 56
          +2
          Without mass executions - nothing.
      2. Cananecat
        Cananecat April 30 2021 08: 52
        +17
        Quote: Egoza
        and the denazification was successful

        Yesterday, at Solovyov's place, a fragment from the Rada was shown, where a group of deputies reminded the rest of what their grandfathers fought for in the Patriotic War in the Red Army ... frankly pleased, so all is not lost.
        1. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx April 30 2021 09: 03
          +11
          Quote: Canecat
          Yesterday, at Solovyov, a fragment from the Rada was shown, where a group of deputies recalled

          I saw ... Switching channels ... I was incredibly surprised by such a direct demonstration of intransigence to Nazism and Bandera ...
          Quote: Canecat
          frankly pleased, then all is not lost.

          yes
        2. UPS
          UPS April 30 2021 13: 59
          +1
          There are also sane deputies and quite a few.
      3. knn54
        knn54 April 30 2021 09: 07
        +17
        While the West is preoccupied with thoughts of a war with Russia, 20 French generals, led by former Foreign Legion commander Picamal, signed a letter warning of an impending racial civil war in Europe, which is already being fomented in the United States.
        "The war begins not when a handful of degradants are not given something, but when they gain power."
    2. Troll
      Troll April 30 2021 08: 30
      +13
      The article is only a journalist's reasoning on the topic will or will not participate. You immediately "led" in the direction of "will not", which is not true. In the event of a hypothetical NATO conflict with Russia, Germany will not go anywhere and she will do what her Suzerain tells and will be faithful to her ally duty. And this is exactly what you need to be prepared for.
      1. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx April 30 2021 09: 29
        +6
        Quote: Troll
        Germany will not go anywhere in the event of a hypothetical conflict between NATO and Russia, and it will do what its Suzerain tells and will be true to its allied duty.

        Hypothetical, you say? And who, in your opinion, can prepare Germany (after the notations of Bismarck and the results of the two worlds) such a fate? Who is so terrible who can make the Germans climb into the heat, and for what? There is another "alternative" for Germany: Russia can offer her, in exchange for neutrality, the return of the lost territories temporarily occupied by Poland. Than kills several "birds with one stone", "hyena" and "frog" at once. If you think about it, why would we want a world without Russia? belay And Brussels is not a hindrance to us. And it is difficult with paper "euros" to stop the b / g "Iskander" and "Caliber", not to mention other members of the missile family. Moreover, in the face of the threat of total destruction of the country, population and statehood, one can think of a "dead zone" instead of those who are especially barking and worried, not to mention the east coast of North America ...
        Is this what gentlemen who are capable of entrusting the mission with Germany want? I do not believe!!!
        Germany will take a time-out, and without it the croaking from Paris, the whining from the "royal islands", and the barking of the hyena will subside ...
        You can intimidate for a long time and persistently, the main thing is not to "do it" yourself.
        1. Troll
          Troll April 30 2021 09: 42
          +1
          Don't be idealistic. None of the civilians, and we are all civilians, want to fight, but wars start regardless of our will.
          1. Ross xnumx
            Ross xnumx April 30 2021 09: 45
            +1
            Quote: Troll
            None of the civilians, and we are all civilians

            I don’t know about you, but I’m retired. Don't think German civilians are any worse than others ...
        2. Barberry25
          Barberry25 April 30 2021 16: 28
          0
          Well, technically, the Americans can put a pig on and bang the Chancellor, accusing Russia of everything ... It's a different matter ... as I remember, ours did not abandon the Strategy of Total War in the event of a war with NATO ... but this is a slightly different calico for Europeans
        3. jovanni
          jovanni 3 May 2021 07: 29
          0
          And who, in your opinion, can prepare Germany (after the notations of Bismarck and the results of the two worlds) such a fate? Who is so terrible who can make the Germans climb into the heat, and for what?

          Nobody will persuade. There are more than 300 US bases in Germany. Including those where nuclear weapons are located. The Americans will operate from these bases without asking anyone, and of course they will receive a reply. Throughout Germany. And how will she avoid getting involved in the war?
      2. Souchastnik
        Souchastnik April 30 2021 17: 11
        +4
        ....... and she will do what the Suzerain tells her

        I support. When American nuclear weapons are removed from Germany, then it will be possible to argue whether Germany will participate or not. In the meantime, Germany is the most dangerous target that will need to be hit.
        1. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx April 30 2021 17: 49
          0
          Quote: Souchastnik
          I support. When American nuclear weapons are removed from Germany, then it will be possible to argue whether Germany will participate or not.


          Such American atomic bombs B61, according to media reports, are in Germany.
          These are not missiles with nuclear warheads, and if I am not mistaken, bombers are used to deliver them to the site. All of Europe is controlled by RF radars and any aircraft is visible as flaky. And warehouses can be destroyed with one rocket ...
          Who will suffer the most in this situation? In Germany, they know this as well as Russians and Americans. They are the nuclear sponsors of Europe, hoping to sit out overseas, despite the warning.
    3. smart ass
      smart ass April 30 2021 08: 46
      +2
      I don’t understand at all what is the point of fighting?
      1. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky April 30 2021 10: 42
        +6
        Quote: Clever man
        I don’t understand at all what is the point of fighting?

        It makes no sense for Europe to fight, and the war between Europe and Russia is beneficial for mattresses in any scenario of its completion, even in favor of Russia, even in favor of Europe, since the mattress, traditionally fitting in at the final stage of the war on the side of the winner, will rake out the barns and siphons of the defeated.
        Now the Americans are provoking a war because they have nothing to eat. Not in the sense that there are not enough hamburgers, but in the sense that the possibilities for extracting capital and enrichment for them are already limited because everything is distributed and divided, and for little things they have already eaten everyone they could.
      2. Souchastnik
        Souchastnik April 30 2021 17: 12
        0
        I don’t understand at all what is the point of fighting?

        As one of my older comrades used to say, don't look for meaning where there is none.
    4. Lynx2000
      Lynx2000 April 30 2021 09: 01
      +7
      Contrary to common sense, this immunity was instilled by Russia, first in Prussia, then in united Germany.
      I hope that genetic memory will warn the descendants of the Teutons from "resolving issues with regard to Russia on a hot head."
    5. frruc
      frruc April 30 2021 11: 49
      +1
      This is just the personal opinion of the German publicist Wolfgang Munchau. In Germany, there are also directly opposite ones.
    6. GoraN
      GoraN April 30 2021 12: 39
      +1
      Do not forget to let them know the USSR paid a dear price
    7. NF68
      NF68 April 30 2021 16: 31
      0
      Quote: Canecat
      At least one country in Europe is sane and that's already good.


      They also have to look back at the United States. The Germans have not celebrated the British for a long time, and the Americans, with their economic leverage, are clearly afraid.
    8. Charik
      Charik April 30 2021 17: 03
      0
      The country is navryatli, but some people, yes.
    9. Alf
      Alf April 30 2021 18: 02
      0
      Quote: Canecat
      At least one country in Europe is sane and that's already good.

      Common sense in these countries comes at a time when their armed forces are in the anus.
      As soon as their Armed Forces are pumped up with force, calls immediately begin to sound - We will drive the Russian barbarians into the swamps of Siberia.
    10. LMN
      LMN April 30 2021 18: 19
      0
      Quote: Canecat
      At least one country in Europe is sane and that's already good.

      The “greens” will come to power and the merriment will begin.
      Until a new chancellor is elected, it is too early to rejoice.
    11. Yakov Moskalenko
      Yakov Moskalenko 1 May 2021 07: 13
      0
      Yes, they probably still remember 1945
  2. Doccor18
    Doccor18 April 30 2021 08: 25
    +1
    Just a parade of sane Europeans lately.
  3. rocket757
    rocket757 April 30 2021 08: 33
    +4
    German magazine predicted Germany's reaction to the clash between Russia and NATO
    ... Come on, none of the members will rock the boat first .... but we don't need that.
  4. Aleksandr97
    Aleksandr97 April 30 2021 08: 39
    +2
    And for some reason the Tribalts are sure of Article 5 of the NATO Charter ?! However, their naivety is forgivable, in contrast to Poland - hysterically dancing on a rake in 1939.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine April 30 2021 09: 41
      +1
      Quote: Aleksandr97
      And for some reason the Tribalts are sure of Article 5 of the NATO Charter ?!

      Because they know that Russia will not fight for the Baltics. But you need to bark.
    2. Alf
      Alf April 30 2021 18: 06
      +2
      Quote: Aleksandr97
      And for some reason the Tribalts are sure of Article 5 of the NATO Charter ?!

      Have they read it themselves? There, after all, it is written in black and white that NATO countries in the event of an attack may not start fighting, but confine themselves to expressing indignation and concern or imposing sanctions.
  5. From Tomsk
    From Tomsk April 30 2021 08: 40
    +4
    Tyuyuyu, but what about the "strongest army of Europa" who still can't wash his trousers after seven boilers?
  6. Horon
    Horon April 30 2021 08: 44
    +7
    Incorrect original inputs lead to incorrect conclusions. The journalist, it turns out, claims that: since Germany receives vaccines and gas from Russia, it will refuse to fulfill its responsibilities in the bloc, even if Russia attacks one of the NATO countries. In other words, Germany needs to abandon everything Russian, since it now depends on Russia and this interferes with making its own decisions! This was the main idea in the journalist's feces, not what many here thought. winked
  7. Woodman
    Woodman April 30 2021 08: 49
    +7
    Russia, together with Belarus, may try to connect the Kaliningrad region of Russia with the territory of the Union State, and this is best done in the area of ​​the Suvalka corridor.
    I disagree. In the event of a connection through this corridor, the Union State will actually have an enclave of tribalts in the rear, which, in any development of the situation, will be a serious threatening factor with the corresponding pumping of weapons and troops. Therefore, it is more profitable to unite Kaliningrad and the Union State through the complete annexation of the Baltic states. Although we don't need it in FIG.
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx April 30 2021 09: 35
      +1
      Quote: Lesovik
      Therefore, it is more profitable to unite Kaliningrad and the Union State through the complete annexation of the Baltic states. Although we don't need it in FIG.

      Judging by the hysterics and moods, in the form in which it turned out, the Baltics themselves do not need the Baltics - what kind of “smart guy” will get into the noose from a good life?
      For us, the Baltic lowland is better than the Suvalka corridor ... yes
    2. Marconi41
      Marconi41 April 30 2021 15: 01
      0
      Quote: Lesovik
      Therefore, the unification of Kaliningrad and the Union State is more profitable to carry out through full accession

      There is no need to attach them, the temporary occupation will be enough, and after the showdown, they themselves will agree to the Russian corridor to Kaliningrad.
  8. Tusv
    Tusv April 30 2021 08: 55
    +3
    Until the Kaliningrad region is being strangled, Russia has no objective indications for the occupation of Suwalki. And when such objective evidence appears, NATO countries will have an iron excuse. Guys, it’s you who attacked Mother Russia. My hut is on the edge. The fifth article is not violated
    1. NDR-791
      NDR-791 April 30 2021 11: 04
      0
      Quote: Tusv
      Until the Kaliningrad region is being strangled, Russia has no objective indications for the occupation of Suwalki.

      It's just that someone smart, once looked at the map, found a squiggle in the form of the notorious corridor, and now everyone is soaring their brains on this topic. Let me remind you that 30 years earlier, the brains were still soaring about the English Channel, they say how narrow it is and how quickly the USSR will overcome it.
  9. prior
    prior April 30 2021 09: 08
    0
    As much as Germany would not like it, in the event of an armed conflict, it will not sit on the sidelines.
    It is in Germany that the Americans store nuclear weapons. So that......
    And then, why do we need the Suvalki corridor?
    If Russia needs something in Europe, it is Berlin, Warsaw, Prague ... and further down the list. laughing
    And after that, the Act of surrender will include the Suvalkinsky corridor, the recognition of Crimea, and much, much more ... lol
  10. Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
    Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov April 30 2021 09: 32
    +6
    ***
    ... How many children have their childhood returned,
    Gave joy and spring
    Ordinary Soviet Army
    People who won the war!

    And in Berlin, on a festive date,
    Was erected to stand centuries
    Monument to Soviet soldier
    With the girl rescued on hands.

    He stands as a symbol of our glory,
    Like a lighthouse shining in the darkness.
    This is he, a soldier of my power,
    Protects peace throughout the earth ...
    ---
    Monument in Berlin - G. Rublev
    ***
    1. Polite Moose
      Polite Moose April 30 2021 12: 40
      0
      You ask "Satan" if the Russian wants wars?
  11. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 April 30 2021 09: 42
    +2
    As an example, he cited Germany, which most likely will not participate at all in the confrontation with Moscow.
    But it will stand up in the form of a detachment so that the Pole-Baltic-Ukrainians do not scatter from the battlefield. In my opinion, the French are not eager to fight with Russia.
    1. Igor Ushakov
      Igor Ushakov April 30 2021 15: 12
      0
      Here, I agree, I have a feeling that my country will act as a penal battalion. What a shame, neither NATO nor the Americans really guarantee us anything, but they will certainly demand. And in our country, the Constitution was also changed for alliance with the Alliance.
  12. Crimean partisan 1974
    Crimean partisan 1974 April 30 2021 16: 39
    +1
    According to the German publicist Wolfgang Munchau,
    .... the surname of the publicist did not bother anyone ..... after the establishment of good weather, a declaration of war should be made to whom ... right .. England ... Russia was not included in the plans of the baron in any way
  13. Artyom1979
    Artyom1979 1 May 2021 12: 09
    +1
    Che they all dance around this Suwalki corridor. Something seems to me that in the event of a war through Latvia and Lithuania, our troops will get to the Kaliningrad region faster than through Belarus.