Fire from various types of weapons: the security forces of Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan are shooting at the border

The situation on the border between Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan has sharply deteriorated. As explained in the local press, the fighting was provoked by a territorial dispute between the countries around the water intake in the Batken region, which is used by both sides.

The lack of progress in the settlement of claims has already led to an intensification of the confrontation between the security forces of the two countries. At the same time, water resources are of strategic importance in the climatic conditions of the region. The conflict began at the civilian level when local residents came to fetch water and found that the Tajik side had installed security cameras. After that, the participants in the skirmish began throwing stones at each other.

The situation on the Kyrgyz-Tajik border is out of control

- said the head of the Batken region.

According to the Kyrgyz authorities, the first weapon used by Tajik security forces. Dushanbe categorically denies this, placing the blame on its neighbor. At the moment, it is stated that when firing, machine guns, machine guns and mortars are used - various types of weapons. The first casualties are reported. The shots of the conflict have already been published on social networks.

Recall that both countries are members of the CSTO. The 201st military base of the RF Armed Forces is located on the territory of Tajikistan. The joint exercises ended just the other day.

Shots with a firefight between Kyrgyz and Tajik security officials:

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[Orange bigg]

At the moment, it is stated that when firing, machine guns, machine guns and mortars are used - various types of weapons. The first casualties are reported. The shots of the conflict have already been published on social networks.

Recall that both countries are members of the CSTO. The 201st military base of the RF Armed Forces is located on the territory of Tajikistan. The joint exercises ended just the other day.

The work of the Anglo-Saxons? Conflicts are stirring up the entire perimeter of the borders. Karabakh, an attempt at revolution in Belarus, aggravation of the conflict in Donbass, diplomatic conflicts with the Czech Republic and the Baltic countries.

[Cananecat]

It will end with one pumping station and pipes in both directions, which will be controlled by Russian peacekeepers.

[Orange bigg]

Quote: Canecat

It will end with one pumping station and pipes in both directions, which will be controlled by Russian peacekeepers.

Maybe this is what the Anglo-Saxons are trying to achieve, so that later they can drag us into such a second Afghanistan. By the way, the United States will soon leave Afghanistan and this will add a noticeable degree to all of Central Asia. Maybe in such a simple way they want to involve us in the conflict. I think we shouldn't fall for provocation.

[grandfather_Kostya]

When there is nothing to drink, water is more expensive than any oil. To fight for a bucket of water, no Anglo-Saxons are needed, and so all over the world.

[Kasym]

It is surprising that the Kyrgyz and Tajiks in Central Asia are not deprived of water. Both are mountainous countries (at least 90% of the area), where there is enough water.

[LiSiCyn]

Dauren, welcome!

Quote: Kasym

Both are mountainous countries (at least 90% of the area), where there is enough water.

Yes, but just redirecting this water is practically impossible. But he will agree on the mutual offset does not work. Where the Kirghiz have "extra", there is Uzbekistan. And vice versa.

And there, everything flares up ...

[ruivit1988]

There is a tradition in America such as, with the arrival of a new president, to promise that their troops will be withdrawn from Afghanistan.

[Ingvar 72]

It is unlikely that Tajiks and Kyrgyz are old "friends". However, as with the Uzbeks.

[LiSiCyn]

Quote: Ingvar 72

It is unlikely that Tajiks and Kyrgyz are old "friends". However, as with the Uzbeks.

I would put the Kyrgyz in the first place ... When the borders were cut, the interests of Kyrgyzstan were taken into account first of all.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: LiSiCyn

first of all, the interests of Kyrgyzstan were taken into account.

Yes, everyone is standing there. It would be like before, the Turkestan region, it would be calm.
PS By the way, Kyrgyzstan is one of the few republics from which Russians were not driven in the 90s.

[LiSiCyn]

Quote: Ingvar 72

Yes, everyone is standing there. It would be like before, the Turkestan region, it would be calm.

As before, this is under the Tsar. In RI.

Quote: Ingvar 72

By the way, Kyrgyzstan is one of the few republics where Russians were not driven from in the 90s.

So, no where did they drive ... Officially.
They just came and asked: "Are you selling your house? Not yet? Well, look, then they won't even give you that money."

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: LiSiCyn

So, no where did they drive ... Officially.

This was almost never the case in Kyrgyzstan.

[bobba94]

Everything was civilized .... We went into the house where the Russians lived and asked whose house it was ... the eldest in the family replied that it was his family's house .... You are wrong, they told him, you live on our land, and therefore this house cannot be yours. They gave a week to vacate the house ...

[What a]

... you publish like Trotsky, none of my acquaintances told this, everyone said that they left because the country became impoverished and life became more difficult.

[for]

Quote: Ingvar 72

By the way, Kyrgyzstan is one of the few republics where Russians were not driven from in the 90s.

A friend told me how "they did not drive."

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: for

A friend told me how "they did not drive."

From Kyrgyzstan?

[for]

Quote: Ingvar 72

From Kyrgyzstan?

Yes.

[Ingvar 72]

There it was minimal. They squeezed out more actively from Uzbekistan.

[Vladimir Basov]

My friend's double grandmother also said that her friend's grandfather lived there and everything was fine there.

[Dkuznecov]

Come on. I would give the name of a friend.
He just won't be happy with the publication.
Knocked him out, neighbors with double-barreled guns,
together the ram was cut into pilaf
and kebab for the last 15 years.

[Ingvar 72]

I'm not saying that there was no such thing, but this was much less than in the neighboring republics.

[Dkuznecov]

Not killed, and thank God, I agree.

[Ingvar 72]

Well, you are exaggerating this, but the first wife is from Uzbekistan, in 95 they fled from there, and they abandoned half of their things, they sold the apartment for nothing.
By the way, now the Russians are called back there, at least Tashkentsky's friend says so.

[NIKN]

How to understand more or less? There was a fact of nationalism. Under article murder 105 ch2 "... murder 2x and more man ... "Where is there more and less. I served in Kant at that time, my friend tried to taxi (to survive) They kidnapped together with the car, hit me on the head with a hammer ..., miraculously escaped at night ) No one was looking for anyone and did not find ... For him I think rather more than less. There was an attempt to ram the gates of V \ h, I was on duty ... I did not notice "less" at that moment. Examples of the sea, not my task keep statistics.

[Ingvar 72]

There were fewer manifestations of domestic nationalism than among the neighbors. And they knocked with a hammer in our cars in the 90s. An acquaintance of mine was killed like that.

[Flashpoint]

Quote: Ingvar 72

There were fewer manifestations of domestic nationalism than among the neighbors. And they knocked with a hammer in our cars in the 90s. An acquaintance of mine was killed like that.

Here is a link for Kyrgyzstan.

Genocide of Russians in Kyrgyzstan
http://pda.segodnia.ru/content/105722

My father served in Baku, my family left for Minsk in 86. Then colleagues and friends told how and who then took their feet from there and how lucky we were that we left earlier.
Later, in the 90s, my mother talked to Azerbaijanis in the market - those who were aged spoke with regret about those events.

Well, as for "their own" - there are enough gopniks and ghouls everywhere. They are not yours. My sister was attacked on vacation - she herself got into the comments of a drunken company at night, they made noise. Well, I woke up - in the end they hit her on the head, she was covered in blood, I managed to fly up and overwhelm the most drunk / tall / daring one. Then it turned out that this one was not only from Minsk, but also my namesake. But what kind of "his" is he? Such my own, I would ...

[Scipio]

Who told you these tales? I have a friend at the age of 3 with my mother in her arms with a pair of bags, and they took their legs from there. Probably they could not stand the Kyrgyz hospitality.

[Captain45]

Quote: Ingvar 72

It is unlikely that Tajiks and Kyrgyz are old "friends". However, as with the Uzbeks.

Ferghana, Osh 90th year, after that Meskhetian Turks or, as the deputy of our Department of Internal Affairs said, Mexican Turks settled in our area.

[Lech from Android.]

What other Anglo-Saxons are in a showdown on the water intake.
Water is of great value in those regions and conflicts on this basis will arise more than once.

[Orange bigg]

Quote: Lech from Android.

What other Anglo-Saxons are in a showdown on the water intake.
Water is of great value in those regions and conflicts on this basis will arise more than once.

The mortars began to work too quickly and quickly.

[Lech from Android.]

They had clashes over the water before ... apparently the issue could not be settled peacefully ... that's why the troops pulled up ... bad of course.

[Polite Moose]

Quote: Lech from Android.

They had fights over the water before ...

I understand that it is a sacred thing to raise a storm because someone has pumped all the water into one mug, but because of the video cameras installed at the water intake, to kindle an interethnic military conflict ... Unless the locals believe that a camera and a video camera are stealing their souls.

[Lech from Android.]

This is an economic conflict, an object of shared use and, naturally, any uncoordinated actions on it can cause squabbles and quarrels ... in summer cottages, something similar also often happens between neighbors.

[Polite Moose]

Quote: Lech from Android.

This is an economic conflict, an object of shared use and, naturally, any uncoordinated actions on it can cause squabbles and quarrels ...

On the contrary, they would be glad that a rare water source was under video surveillance. Less chance of any ... poisoning him.

[LiSiCyn]

Quote: Polite Elk

I understand that it is a sacred thing to raise a storm because someone has pumped all the water into one mug, but because of the video cameras installed at the water intake, to kindle an interethnic military conflict ...

The conflict has existed since the collapse of the Union. And even before that, it existed at the everyday level. At the moment, armed neutrality remained, "without movement" ... Tajiks provoked the civilian population by installing cameras. The civilians began throwing stones at cameras, border guards, and nearby houses of Tajiks. The border guards responded with a firearm and the Kyrgyz border guards were already involved.
There, everything is thin, any spark will give a flame. But I doubt it will escalate into a serious war.

[Polite Moose]

As for the conflict, everything is correct. But I don’t understand in any way how the cameras prevented them? Why beat them with stones?

[LiSiCyn]

Quote: Polite Elk

But I don’t understand in any way how the cameras prevented them? Why beat them with stones?

I wrote ...

Quote: LiSiCyn

At the moment, armed neutrality remained, "without movement" ...

And there, everything is more serious than I thought ... They began to use armored vehicles.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Lech from Android.

What other Anglo-Saxons are in a showdown on water intake.
Water is of great value in those regions and conflicts on this basis will arise more than once.

The same Anglo-Saxons, as in showdowns over faith, language differences, territorial disputes, etc. etc.
Since 1992, Tajikistan has joined the North Atlantic Partnership Council, and since 2002 - the Partnership for Peace program developed by NATO. One of the areas of partnership with the Alliance is training national military personnel for the Tajik army and conducting joint work to educate the population on the benefits of cooperation between Dushanbe and NATO. As part of efforts to strengthen its influence in the republic NATO does not exclude the possibility of using the potential of the alliance in the Dushanbe projects. The word "HYDRO" somehow intersects with the theme of the conflict. Taking into account the aggravation of the mutual rhetoric between the USA and the Russian Federation, with the accompanying expulsion of diplomats, I very much even admit the option that the mattresses decided to pull another red line, in spite of the statement of the GDP, when he did not advise them to do this.
On the topic of "matchmaking" of mattresses and Tajiks, read more here - https: //www.nato.rf/ru/tajikistan.html

[hrych]

Quote: OrangeBigg

The work of the Anglo-Saxons?

The handiwork of lack of water. The Englishwoman, of course, shits, but the intestines are not enough to spoil everything

[rocket757]

Need a WATER truce !!! and a strict controller who, for violation of this, could shorten his tail, to the very ears!

[Orange bigg]

Quote: rocket757

Need a WATER truce !!! and a strict controller who, for violation of this, could shorten his tail, to the very ears!

We are not doing well with strict controllers. To be convinced of this, it is enough to look at the Donbass. But with the truces, things are great. How many of them have already been announced in the Donbass cannot be counted.

[rocket757]

Anything different happens ... I won't say that everything goes on as usual, but it goes that way.

[Captain45]

Quote: rocket757

Need a WATER truce !!! and a strict controller who, for violation of this, could shorten his tail, to the very ears!

Like Mowgli in a drought?

[rocket757]

There were the onlookers, big, strong, strong ...

[aslanismaili611]

Quote: hrych

Quote: OrangeBigg

The work of the Anglo-Saxons?

The handiwork of lack of water. The Englishwoman, of course, shits, but the intestines are not enough to spoil everything

... I didn't expect such very sensible words from Khrych and decided to give him 2 pluses at once. one for this very post, well, and the second ... well, we are neighbors. And thus Khrych would become the seventh or already the eighth Marshal of Armenia. There, and before the Generalisimo is not long. But it turns out that this number does not work here. Alas!

[hrych]

Quote: aslanismaili611

And so Khrych would become the seventh or already the eighth Marshal of Armenia

[aslanismaili611]

Quote: hrych

Quote: aslanismaili611

And so Khrych would become the seventh or already the eighth Marshal of Armenia

... Oooh! Hrych, you haven't been seen on VO for a long time. I already thought, a sinister deed, whether my glorious askers took you completely in the recent Karabakh war. Congratulations from the bottom of my heart on your new military rank. Now, for us, the local contingent, it will undoubtedly be easier to figure out what is happening on this new battlefield. It is worth you once to cast your marshal's gaze and everything will become clear as daylight. By the way, I still and quite legally put you a second plus.

[hrych]

I asked for it. Get Marshall pluses What should I do in Karabakh? Putin occupied it on the sly Everyone is happy. Baku returned the occupied areas, our base in Gyumri is not in danger. Soros in the pen. There was a base and a contingent in Armenia, and now also in Azerbaijan, with the support of the local population. Now there will be a dry road from Iran, through Armenia and Azerbaijan to Russia on this side of the Caspian, and a little earlier a railway was built from Iran through Turkmenistan and Kazakhstan to Russia on the other side of the Caspian. The fact that Aliyev is intelligent and with us in the subject, and what is bad? But the lousy askers, as expected, distinguished themselves by atrocities against the elderly and let them outlive their children. In fact, Armenia did not come to the war at all, and the Karabakh people abandoned by everyone held out for 6 weeks. There are no complaints about the Karabakh people here. You're in luck that Pashinyan went to war and blow up the dam and just flush the Mingechevir reservoir, AzR. Local Armageddon of Azerbaijan ... is postponed.

[aslanismaili611]

Thank you. Yes, there really is nothing to talk about. The war is over and KG. Better a bad world than ... For a comic tone, I think there is no reason for resentment. I am a new person here, and if you look at my posts, there are not so many of them, you will see that with all my colleagues I often, violating all subordination, half-faking a conversation. Well, to defuse the situation or what ?! But seriously, I'm sure that, like any inhabitant of VO, your opinion on the flaring up conflict will really be interesting. Do you think this is already a war, or a border conflict? And what are the more likely scenarios there? Once again, thank you. well, let's say for the pros.

[hrych]

My opinion is sad. A full-scale war broke out due to less serious incidents, and here the barracks are already burning. Russia will undoubtedly stop this conflict. There are levers of influence, and in both republics - members of the CSTO there are our bases. The question is how many useless victims there will be on both sides. Moreover, with the withdrawal of the Americans from Afghanistan, both republics can be shaken because of this. There is also the PRC, which also does not need this conflict next to the Uyguria. Again, the Turkic-speaking with the Iranian-speaking quarreled. Everything comes from the immaturity of the new regime in Kyrgyzstan. Although I am a militarist, I am for peace.

[Pereira]

Exactly. One of those who threw stones and one of those who set up the camera were negroes.

[Orange bigg]

Quote: Pereira

Exactly. One of those who threw stones and one of those who set up the camera were negroes.

The joke is not good for you.

[Pereira]

Were you white?

[Blackmokona]

Clones of Petrov and Bashirov?

[sergey32]

If there is no water in the tap ... you yourself know who drank.

[Prisoner]

It is not necessary to make Petrov and Boshirov out of the British. The conflict is old, but here is spring. There is a reason to butt. A bad deed is not tricky, it does not require much intelligence. They themselves could have thought of it.

[xorek]

Quote: OrangeBigg

The work of the Anglo-Saxons? Conflicts are stirring up the entire perimeter of the borders. Karabakh, an attempt at revolution in Belarus, aggravation of the conflict in Donbass, diplomatic conflicts with the Czech Republic and the Baltic countries.

How strenuously they minus you, and you are right !!!! All this is a link in one chain .. Soon it will flare up somewhere else .. Kazakhstan for example .. Anaconda ring is shrinking

[LiSiCyn]

R'RёS,R ° F "RёR№

Quote: xorek

How strenuously they minus you, and you are right !!!! All this is a link in one chain.

Tie it up. Not the theme. You will be carried and again into the skull.

Quote: xorek

Anaconda ring shrinks

Not without it. But in this case, by ... It was the Bolsheviks who stirred up.

The borders of Tajikistan are marked in red.

And this is to make it clearer.
Here it is, the "Serpentine Triangle".

[xorek]

Quote: LiSiCyn

Tie it up. Not the topic.

Okay .. And yet I'm right.

[LiSiCyn]

Quote: xorek

And yet I'm right.

As it is not surprising , but in this case it really is.
The striped ones were marked. The "peaceful" Kirghiz, who started the buchu, a week ago, were buzzing with anti-Russian slogans. Just after the visit to the village of an employee of the Amersky embassy, ​​accompanied by representatives of the NGO. They brought humanitarian aid ...

[Tank hard]

Quote: OrangeBigg

Conflict is stirring up all over the border

There is no border with the Russian Federation.)))))

[Vladimir Basov]

Saxons, Saxons everywhere these Saxons are to blame! And only they! And s more!))

[skif8013]

This is just what we lacked.

[Dmitry Potapov]

More than once everyone will remember the Soviet Union with a kind word! The border between Kyrgyzstan-Tajikistan-Uzbekistan-Turkmenistan-Kazakhstan was a simple formality and was remembered only by looking at the license plates of the adjacent territories.

[Trapp1st]

Eat independence with a full spoon.

[Alexander 3]

It's good that we have enough water and the cleanest water in Baikal, I don't know how things are with the Chinese water pipeline.

[Overlock]

Quote: Alexander 3

, I do not know how things are with the Chinese water pipeline.

Dismantled the Chinese plant on Lake Baikal, today the Chinese are left without Baikal water

[Aag]

Quote: Overlock

Quote: Alexander 3

, I do not know how things are with the Chinese water pipeline.

Dismantled the Chinese plant on Lake Baikal, today the Chinese are left without Baikal water

Deripaska, of course, is better than the Chinese, he is ours, dear !!!
If, "suddenly", the Angarsk cascade of hydroelectric power stations (let me remind you that they were heroically erected in difficult times by previous generations, and now robbed by pension reforms) is done again, as was the case with aluminum, they will explain to the people that it is necessary to support domestic "entrepreneurs. "(oligarchs), tighten your belts ...
I would tighten it, if only the dawn would crack for them!

[Aag]

Quote: AAG

Quote: Overlock

Quote: Alexander 3

, I do not know how things are with the Chinese water pipeline.

Dismantled the Chinese plant on Lake Baikal, today the Chinese are left without Baikal water

Deripaska, of course, is better than the Chinese, he is ours, dear !!!
If, "suddenly", the Angarsk cascade of hydroelectric power stations (let me remind you that they were heroically erected in difficult times by previous generations, and now robbed by pension reforms) is done again, as was the case with aluminum, they will explain to the people that it is necessary to support domestic "entrepreneurs. "(oligarchs), tighten your belts ...
I would tighten it, if only the dawn would crack for them!

"...
I would have tightened it, if only the dawn would have cracked for them! ... "
Of course, you should read - "CHARA"!
And the arguments from the minus will be?
Or should we now be proud of the ratings of Russian citizens in Forbes?

[gorenina91]

Dismantled the Chinese plant on Lake Baikal, today the Chinese are left without Baikal water

- That's for sure ???
- If yes ; then this is the most wonderful news for today !!!

[Aag]

Quote: gorenina91

Dismantled the Chinese plant on Lake Baikal, today the Chinese are left without Baikal water

- That's for sure ???
- If yes ; then this is the most wonderful news for today !!!

Do not rush to conclusions. Zabite in the search engine "Diripaska's Baikal water".
Also, my comment above ... (((

[Overlock]

Quote: gorenina91

That's for sure ???

A controversial Chinese plant for pumping out drinking water is demolished on Baikal
https://www.infpol.ru/225815-na-baykale-snosyat-skandalnyy-kitayskiy-zavod-po-vykachivaniyu-pitevoy-vody/

[Alexander 3]

I really want no one to reach out to our property, but legs please.

[Reserve buildbat]

Two former republics are squabbling over the object built by the USSR. The situation is simply delusional ... It is a shame to see what the "appanage princelings" have reached on the territory of the Union.

[Tank hard]

Quote: Stroibat stock

Two former republics are squabbling over the object built by the USSR.

Water in Central Asia weighs more than gold. You just don't understand ...

[Reserve buildbat]

I understand. It's just that these are two fragments of a great country squabbling over an object built by this country.

[Tank hard]

Quote: Stroibat stock

It's just that these are two fragments of a great country squabbling over an object built by this country.

Probably, this is inevitable ... ((

[vitvit123]

And our "sworn friends" always tell us that we alone have problems with our neighbors and that is why we are so bad ... but it turns out that we are not like that, but life is like that ..

[Kushka]

In vain they were generally allowed to have trunks.

[stalki]

Crazy, stones, machine guns, and then what? Here is their independence, the whole Union was bad. A logical result. There is no leader, the flock is scattered.

[rocket757]

The lack of progress in the settlement of claims has already led to an intensification of the confrontation between the security forces of the two countries.

"The master will come, the master will judge them !!!"
And the truth is, there would be a "master", maybe there would be more order ... in this very controversial issue, although ???

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

We have excellent partners in the CSTO.

With such allies, enemies are not necessary.

[Orange bigg]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

We have excellent partners in the CSTO.

With such allies, enemies are not necessary.

Do you have more attractive candidates for membership in the CSTO?

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

So maybe none is better than such ?! Why are we wasting resources on such allies ?!

They are ready to kill from behind the well !!!

Do you believe that NATO or China will attack us and some of them will stand up for us ?!

[Overlock]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

We have excellent partners in the CSTO.

Where will you find the best?

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Better none than such, everything that we give them is then used against us.

[Eugene-Eugene]

In NATO, on the other hand, peace and grace. Between Turkey and Greece, for example.

[BISMARCK94]

The allies we deserve

[Overlock]

Water! This is what "second oil" is. As well as over hydrocarbons, future wars will be over water

[Orange bigg]

.Clowns who behave arrogantly

You will find these in your mirror.

... It was not these republics that failed the Soviet Union, but the Russians who were in Moscow, that is, you yourself, so close your garbage mouth.

Uzbek, how do you feel about the conflict between Tajiks and Kyrgyz? Did one of them authorize you to speak on their behalf? Who will you be to try to teach someone something here, and even more so try to be rude? Who are you? Looks like the conflict in Fergana was also arranged Russians from Moscow in your opinion, not local Kyrgyz and Uzbeks. By the way, the Uzbeks there, in my opinion, and in 2010 from the Kyrgyz got it. Also because of the Russians in Moscow? Find vidos with Uzbek refugees from Fergana on the border of Uzbekistan in 2010 my.

Just leave these countries alone. From you only trouble and war.

Examples of troubles and wars because of us in the studio or just to blurt out something?

[Orange bigg]

.Uzbeks fled from Osh, including resettled in Fergana.

You know better who ran where. You are in the subject.

. To remind you how many people were killed in present-day Uzbekistan (formerly Turkestan) by your great-grandfathers? Or will you take it and go for a book and read it?

Did he teach history from Soros's books? There is also a universal lie. No, I will not read history books written with the financial assistance of Soros, that is, in fact, an agent of the CIA. In Soros's book about the history of Japan, for example, it is written that it was the USSR that dropped the atomic bomb on Japan, not the United States. These are purely propaganda books, not history textbooks. And along the way you became a victim of this American propaganda. If my great-grandfathers really killed as you write, then there would not be that flourishing Soviet Uzbekistan. Do not read Soros's books, they were written to play off peoples, they contain a lot of outright lies.

.Your CSTO, together with your president, silently watch these events in 2010.

At the time, Putin was negotiating with Nazarbayev and the President of Kyrgyzstan, as well as with Karimov, which was shown on all central channels in our country. So don't la la. The conflict was settled relatively quickly.

... It's good that we left these stupid organizations a long time ago, being these two countries in the CSTO cannot even live in peace, maybe the root still lies in Russia?

Interestingly, what is preventing these countries from living in peace? And what is wrong with Russia? Speak directly.

.Ukraine, Georgia, Moldova and many countries.

The troubles of these countries were created by these countries themselves. Ukrainian, Georgian and Moldovan nationalism. They themselves created conflicts out of the blue, and Russia is to blame for stopping wars.

Leave alone the ex. Soviet countries, we do not kill on nat. sign as is customary in Muscovy

Muscovy is where? Now is not the Middle Ages and there is no such country. I don’t call Uzbekistan one of the khanates that existed in the Middle Ages, and you don’t call today's Russia medieval Muscovy, one of the states that eventually formed today's Russia. Let's live for today and not in the distant past.

[Stepan S]

Have you spoken? Why is it so bursting? Right now, no one bothers you there, no one bothers you, and that there is a lot of happiness, a lot of peace with you? Where are you going to work? What doesn’t sit at home?

[uzbek]

Peace is better than war. It kills me how your compatriots with their mouths full write what are the bad Central Asian countries and how they flunked the union. And the root is not in Central Asia, but in Muscovy. I am not going to work anywhere, I am at home, I have no need to go to a country where there is neither respect nor normal attitude towards people, but there is racism, chauvinism, xenophobia. You can choke on all these bad habits of yours. A good specialist will find his niche everywhere, look beyond your Muscovy, there are much more attractive countries in case of work, if your plate is stuck.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

What are you doing here ?!

The USSR remembered how the Uzbeks were oppressed. Is Russia to blame for everything? What is in everything? Is it that Uzbekistan was part of Russia, and not Russia was part of Uzbekistan or the Golden Horde?

And your ancestors during the heyday of your Uzbekistan, what did they do with their neighbors ?!

Russia entered into alliances and responded to the threat, while not a single people within Russia was oppressed, languages, customs were not prohibited, and the republics retained their identity, culture, local authorities were local, while all citizens enjoyed equal rights, etc.

And then Russia is your aggressor, and the Uzbeks are innocent sheep.

Russia does not keep anyone in the CSTO, and the fact that Uzbekistan left the CSTO did not weaken us in any way, as for me, I generally don't see any sense in the CSTO.

Such allies are ballast, not help.

They will trample the Taliban and ISIS from Afgan now, well, fight back there yourself, whatever you want.

And then Russia is to blame for him, drags him into the CSTO, allows migrants to work at home, buys goods, covers the border.

Why do we need this ?! Why are we feeding Russophobes like you ?!

You always have little, no matter how much you give.

And as the difficult time comes, milking Russia, such as immediately yelling about their independence.

Yes, if our ancestors behaved like yours, your Uzbekistan would not exist !!!

[Tank hard]

Quote: Uzbek

And the root is not in Central Asia, but in Muscovy.

Come on. The republics of Central Asia have been independent states since 1991 and decide for themselves what is there and how. What does Moscow have to do with it? Where did you see racism and chauvinism in the Russian Federation without leaving (according to your own words) your village? I do not seem to have a completely Slavic appearance, but in the Russian Federation I almost never heard negative statements in my direction, on the contrary, in the Central Asian republic, in which I was born, I constantly heard that I was of the wrong nationality and that I was occupying the workplace of the indigenous people of that republic. Stop lying already.

[Prisoner]

Do not be rude. If only I would say thank you that they taught me how to read, how to write. I forgot how the whole country was restoring Tashkent, how the plant was built in Almalyk, the aircraft industry was created (which is now in what state?). If the USSR had not existed, you would have crumbled a pumpkin to your donkey, and not barked at the computer, Basmach "garbage".

[uzbek]

Did you really teach us? Maybe you will look into history and see that when your ancestors walked naked, ours had already discovered astronomy, mathematics, geometry and other important subjects. Play God knows who. First, find out who the Basmachi are. There would be no USSR and all this nonsense, they would certainly live better, and would not have adopted all this nonsense in the form of corruption and fraud. Well done that the Baltic countries have gone far from you, as the standard of living shows. Thank you for Tashkent, but Tashkent also received a lot of children, women and sick people, made a huge contribution to the victory, which you will never admit, there has already been an example of how Putin said about this that Russia is one. Well, yes, you certainly will not remember this, the memory is too short.
.

[Prisoner]

Distant ancestors maybe. A long time ago. Until the Soviet power came, your loved ones were sold like sheep in the market. Dixi

[uzbek]

Distant ancestors? After all, ancestors? After all, they taught your ancestors everything? And as rams you were more likely to be sold, write after the fact. Your nickname matches your writing.

[Tank hard]

Quote: Uzbek

Your nickname matches your writing.

Your nickname is generally fire. Decide already, are you Uzbek, Chukchi or a bear ?!)))
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[Orange bigg]

They ask themselves.

.Maybe you look into history and see that when your ancestors walked naked, ours were already discovering astronomy, mathematics, geometry and other important subjects.

And they themselves answer.

... Play God knows who. First, find out who the Basmachi are.

Split personality?

Well done that the Baltic countries have gone far from you, as the standard of living shows.

You probably wanted to say that the inhabitants of the Baltic countries have gone far (or rather fled to other EU countries) not only from us, but also from the Baltic countries after the latter joined the EU?

[sabakina]

Quote: Uzbek

Did you really teach us? Maybe you will look into history and see that when your ancestors walked naked, ours had already discovered astronomy, mathematics, geometry and other important subjects.

This is a masterpiece !!! I no longer ask about digging the seas. These are little things. I wonder which of you created the solar system, you or the chubby?

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Uzbek

Just leave these countries alone.

Yes, no question, even this moment. Only this very moment, take your Gaster, from which there is only dirt, infection and crime.

[uzbek]

I only want them to return home as soon as possible. I also do not support that they work for a penny there. Regarding the reception of dirt, statistics show that the indigenous population is much more aggressive, for weeks people from Central Asia

[Okolotochny]

what work for a penny there

Then these "kopecks" are transferred to Uzbekistan. For people ... like you

Migrant remittances make up five percent of Uzbekistan's GDP, said Deputy Minister of Economy of Uzbekistan Shukhrat Ismailov at a briefing.

Not a fig for a penny - 5% of GDP. Therefore, reduce the ambition.

[Trapp1st]

Regarding the reception of dirt, statistics show that the indigenous population is much more aggressive

Statistics in the studio! As for the bad USSR, look at the map of the Russian Empire and think who needs to be thanked for the existence of Uzbekistan today.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Uzbek

statistics show

Uzbek?

[CommanderDIVA]

No need to lie, for a penny, Uzbeks have not been working at construction sites in Russia for a long time, price tags have risen in view of the pandemic, and no one treats these workers from Central Asia with nationalism and chauvinism, at least in central Russia, many by the way try to get Russian citizenship like this how is it cheaper than paying for a patent as a foreigner

[Eugene-Eugene]

Through Central Asia from the beginning of time, the army of foreigners shied away, ruining it under the net. And when there were no external invasions, the local princes ruined each other. It was different under the "Soviet yoke": the local population of the same Uzbekistan increased by 4 times. Not genocide, but genocide. But the local kings don't tell you this, it's easier to hold a herd in your hands - "Vanka was bad, I was a halosh".

[Eugene-Eugene]

So what about the Soviet yoke and genocide? How much does an IL-76 with TAPOiCH replenish the sky a year?

[uzbek]

Alas, they ruined production. But, new plants and factories are being built. TAPOiCH sold not good radishes, which I am not very happy about, to put it mildly

[Eugene-Eugene]

new factories and factories are being built

Like the Chirchik agricultural machinery plant, to which Rostselmash transferred its competencies? I'm already silent about nuclear power plants - they could order in the West, only without a loan and twice as expensive (excuse me, it's not for free, Soviet times are over). We need to respect a neighbor who cooperates on preferential terms. And know the history better, without dwelling on the excesses of the past. Even if there were 40 thousand victims in Fergana, this cannot be compared with: 1) the general growth of the local population; 2) the misfortunes brought by the invaders, the same Mongols in Central Asia, or the British, for example, operating in India.

[Orange bigg]

... we love to watch Solovyov and Kiselev brainwash us. ala zombie

What do you care what we love and what not? Maybe it's your brainwashed in your country and you're a zombie yourself.

.See also the level of immigration

Yeah. Uzbek speaks to Russians. How many Uzbeks have immigrated to Russia and how many Russians can you tell in Uzbekistan?

from Russia

For humiliation of the Russian Federation in a decent society you know what happens. First, learn to respect Russia, and then try to talk to the Russians and present something there.

[uzbek]

Quote: OrangeBigg

What do you care what we love and what we don’t? Maybe it’s you who are brainwashed in your country and you’re a zombie yourself.

I don't care, it just shows the level of thinking at once who is who. There are friends in MSC who are very educated and express their opinions adequately and in fact.

Quote: OrangeBigg

Yeah. Uzbek speaks to Russians. How many Uzbeks have immigrated to Russia and how many Russians can you tell in Uzbekistan?

I will say that many Uzbeks have immigrated, I don’t deny. I, unlike some, see the real truth, not a lie.

Quote: OrangeBigg

For humiliation of the Russian Federation in a decent society you know what happens. First, learn to respect Russia, and then try to talk to the Russians and present something there.

It sounded so funny from the lips of a Russian that I don't even know whom you are flattering ... Before you write this, you yourself should learn to respect others.

[Trapp1st]

I will say that many Uzbeks have immigrated, I don’t deny.

Blind people?) Left a better life in Uzbekistan to drag out existence in the decaying Russian Federation)) And you see the truth, I hope your fellow countrymen will see the light, preferably even today before the evening. I had a better opinion of you.

[Tank hard]

Quote: Uzbek

I will say there are many Uzbeks immigrated,

this phrase shows the level of your education.)))

[elai]

Who left the road with a tablecloth. Scientists left in the 90s because there were threats and the dollar attracted. Now in the Russian Federation, scientists have decent salaries.

[Trapp1st]

Scientists left in the 90s because there were threats and the dollar attracted. Now in the Russian Federation, scientists have decent salaries.

Now they are leaving, they do not need them in Russia; there is simply no use here. I have been observing this continuous process with my own eyes for several years, and even the word “leave” is not very suitable, they have been exported in bulk for a long time already on the stream.

[SERGOL]

Dear, have you forgotten how you wiped your farts with saxaul? Who made your people literate? You are not grateful apricot. For Uzbek

[Tank hard]

Quote: SERGOL

Who made your people literate?

Do not touch the people, this type may not be one of them at all, he just trolls the topic.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Before the Soviet Union, Uzbekistan was a part of Russia, so why should it be different afterwards ?!

Now some region will break away from Uzbekistan and declare independence. How do you look at this?

So, there is no need to build a sacrifice out of yourself.

And such allies as you are not needed by Russia for nothing.

The United States is leaving Afghanistan, what nonsense does this threaten the Asian republics in the first place ?!

Well, deal with it yourself !!!

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Uzbek migrants make transfers from Russia to Uzbekistan for almost 4 billion dollars a year.

And after that, some Uzbek writes that Russia terrorized him, and the Russians should shut their mouths and stuff the peacekeepers somewhere.

You are the type with a mustache.

You yourself cannot feed your people yet.

And Rossi's trouble is that she is kind and feeds such Russophobes around her neck.

Why is it enough for an Uzbek to work in Russia to simply pay a penny patent ?! In general, why does Russia let your fellow countrymen work?

Didn't ask this question?

In the opinion, there is no reason to do this.

[Vladimir61]

We all talk about the influence of Russia ... And why over the past thirty years we have not been able to sit them at the negotiating table and achieve the demarcation of the border of the two states. To date, out of ~ 900 km of the common border, a little more than 500 have been demarcated. Difficult? Probably very difficult! But the influence is manifested where something is done for the purposes of collective or adjacent security, and not in the form of regular days of culture. I almost never heard that in one or another post-Soviet country of Central Asia, the initiative of the Ambassador of the Russian Federation was shown to solve urgent and long-standing problems. The impression is that they are serving time there or are waiting for retirement age.

[Prisoner]

It looks like it. Perhaps they are waiting for a pension, perhaps they are sitting out for a while, perhaps with a gold reserve, the ambassadors are under pressure. In order for the contract to be respected, the kurbashi on both sides must either pay regularly, or hold tightly by the throat. And that is, the options in the first case, that they will outbid, in the second, that they will come up to you from the back and strike you down the neck. East is a delicate matter.

[staer-62]

Ha, what did I say that everyone will fight. Where is the vaunted union of the Turks headed by the Sultan? ))))))

[uzbek]

Tajiks are not Turks

[Knell wardenheart]

Conclusion - no one likes the abundance of security cameras ..

[Stepan S]

These are the allies. There is no need for an enemy, they cannot sort it out among themselves without Kalashnikov.

[vindigo]

I hope ours won't get there. Except for the sale of weapons and the voluntary-compulsory dispatch of Tajik and Kyrgyz volunteers

[JonnyT]

This is a long-standing problem between the two countries.

Even under the USSR, they beat each other's faces like that, if one took water from the irrigation ditch to his melon plantation, and the other saw it.

The problem of water scarcity in the countries of Central Asia is very acute. And now it is even more aggravated.

The world is entering a new phase of acute confrontation for vital resources. So these processes are natural

[Ros 56]

I don’t understand, well, they installed security cameras, so what? What a madhouse?

[elai]

It's terrible what is happening in the world, around the war. There are no Isis in Syria, but everywhere in bulk, fanatics, drug addicts and thugs. Also the former Soviet republics are at war. What is the ODKB, would dissolve and not disgrace, they are not friends with each other, what is the external enemy

[uzbek]

Quote: Eugene-Eugene

new factories and factories are being built

Like the Chirchik agricultural machinery plant, to which Rostselmash transferred its competencies? I'm already silent about nuclear power plants - they could order in the West, only without a loan and twice as expensive (excuse me, it's not for free, Soviet times are over). We need to respect a neighbor who cooperates on preferential terms. And know the history better, without dwelling on the excesses of the past. Even if there were 40 thousand victims in Fergana, this cannot be compared with: 1) the general growth of the local population; 2) the misfortunes brought by the invaders, the same Mongols in Central Asia, or the British, for example, operating in India.

And this type and not only that. Most likely there will be no nuclear power plant, and as a power engineer I am personally against nuclear power plants. Especially there are very unpleasant points, why and most likely they could not agree. There are much more interesting, alternative types of energy production (albeit costly and below efficiency). For something that is not free, you should not ask for forgiveness, you have to pay for work, and if all this were not beneficial to Russia, they would hardly cooperate, would you, dear?
Population growth does not mean that genocide needs to be justified, I have told you a very small part. You have already gone too far about Mongolia

[uzbek]

Quote: Okolotochny

Then these "kopecks" are transferred to Uzbekistan. For people ... like you

For people like me? I earn my money "halal" you will not understand what it is, you have not even dreamed about it. It would be necessary to familiarize yourself and it would be time for you to earn halal.

Quote: Okolotochny

Then these "kopecks" are transferred to Uzbekistan. For people ... like you

Show your comrades about ambition. Read above where it all began, oh yes, your fellow angels, so no matter what, even if justly, even if not justly, you are blind in this situation. Typical bot.

[Chersky]

Uzbek, I understand your reaction. Much is probably a shame to read. But you are still an asshole if you start to argue with these "opponents" and also start to overstep the boundaries. Thus, you will not prove anything here.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

the Kyrgyz have already seized one outpost from the Tajiks

[Tank hard]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

the Kyrgyz have already seized one outpost from the Tajiks

The Kyrgyz are generally good fighters. I know I was born there.))

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

already funny, especially if you remember how the Kyrgyz bought off the Islamists

[Tank hard]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

already funny, especially if you remember how the Kyrgyz bought off the Islamists

Let's take a closer look at how the Kyrgyz bought off the Islamists, preferably with links and proofs, otherwise you will be lied to. If you are talking about the Batken events. I was in the republic then, my comrades died there.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

you will not accept conversations with participants as evidence

[Tank hard]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

you will not accept conversations with participants as evidence

Well. it would be if someone said that he saw you steal food. You can say different things, but it also requires proof. I kind of personally know the Bakiyevs, I have known Marat since 1990, they trained in the same gym. And I haven’t heard anything about which you write here. How does someone Vasilenko know more than me, curious? ..

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

how does someone Tank know more than me ?!

[Tank hard]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

how does someone Tank know more than me ?!

what a tank to vasilenko.))
Where is the evidence that the Kyrgyz authorities bought off the militants in Batken? Are you lying?

[Tank hard]

Quote: Tank Hard

Where is the evidence that the Kyrgyz authorities bought off the militants in Batken? Are you lying?

It turns out that you lie ..

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Tank Hard

Where is the evidence that the Kyrgyz authorities bought off the militants in Batken? Are you lying?

funny, if you said that this is an axiom, which means I have to prove
and who are you that I would prove something to you?

[Tank hard]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

funny, if you said that this is an axiom, which means I have to prove
and who are you that I would prove something to you?

[xorek]

Begins .... In Tajikistan, after all, our base is available. No matter how Russia is pulled in. I do not like all this and I feel that it was all provoked on purpose.
They are crushing Russia from all sides, as if they broke off the chain .. We will stand up to nothing!

[Captain45]

- Why did you kill my people, Sayid ?! I sent them to tell you not to look for Dzhavdet by the Dry Stream! He is not there! Return to Pagent! The road is easier when you meet a good fellow traveler! (c) "White sun of the desert"
- East is a delicate matter! (c) ibid.
And Black Abdullah - Kakhi Kavsadze died yesterday.

[Vladimir61]

Until 2014, in the showdown in the post-Soviet space, he was still trying to understand who is Malchish-Kibalchish and who is Malchish-Bad. Now to one place! In the 90s, Russians, all these "brothers in mind", were expelled from everywhere - they were building their own national and independent.
Our "active" diplomacy in these countries has long been multiplied by zero. The CIS, like the CSTO, is nothing more than an anachronism of the 90s, but in fact, a one-way pump, activated only when something is needed from Russia. Who from the CSTO condemned the attack on our peacekeepers and recognized South Ossetia and Abkhazia? No one! Wash in blood and want our mediation will come running, they will not come running, their problems.

[Private SA]

Pointless video-photo. I would with armor
rolled down pretending to be dead
quote = Tank Hard] Water in Central Asia weighs more than gold. You just don't understand ... [/ quote]
And she, water, and in the Far East was valued. Me from the troop echelon from the guard
filmed to talk to the grandmothers on the water well